ELON MUSK IS CONFUSED WITH CHINA & CCP. CHINESE & COMMUNIST CHINA. NO ORDINARY FOLKS CAN BE THE MEMBERS OF CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. VERY SELECTIVE ELITES. CCP HIJACKS CHINA & KIDNAPS OVER 1 BILLION CHINESE SLAVES. IF ELON MUSK KNOWS MORE HISTORY OF CULTURAL REVOLUTION FROM 1960-70s, HOW TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE BE DESTROYED. THEN, WE KNOW MORE WHY CCP IS SO BRUTAL & AGGRESSIVE TO INVADE & DESTROY AMERICA, & THEY EVEN WANT TO DOMINATE THE WORLD. CAN YOU SEE THE OLDER GENERATION IN POWER STILL HOLD THE EMPEROR MINDSETS TO CONTROL PEOPLE IN 21st CENTURY BUT THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, JUSTICE. THEY ARE ANTI GOD. THEY THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN GOD. CAN YOU SEE CCP PARTY IS ABOVE EVERYTHING. ABOVE THE LAW. THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS NO CHECK & BALANCE. .........................
I knew an elderly gentleman that fought in the German army in WW2. His company surrendered to the Americans. He said they were so happy it was Americans and not Russians.
I don't think its reliable to believe what a german said who fought against americans in WW2, ofcourse he would say he favors Americans, because Germany lost the war, and didn't wanted to be purged by Americans lol, If Russia took over Germany, I bet you that German soldier would have said the same but in favor of Russia 😂
Given what the Germans did in the Soviet Union vs what they did the US I'm sure he is glad. Germany openly committed war crimes all over the USSR thinking the same would never happen to them... till it did.
Well yeah, america joined the war late as always.. Russians lost more than any other nation in the war.. Canadians are the worst though.. most unethical war crime connoisseurs to ever walk the planet
@@greywolf2622 The truth triggers you .I get it. If you have any facts to disprove what I said. let's hear it then ?. You don't have any because America is not an empire. Countries want American protection that's why they allow bases there.
@@Lucidveinhe's a very dumb guy. The Tesla company was built by 2 American engineers and then he took credits for that.😫😩👎👎 He didn't even know how to save those kids trapped in the cave in Thailand, remember. He suggested to use submarines to rescuing them even though the water is so shallow, remember 😀😄😄👎👎
@@James8591 I don't think it's fair to come him a dumb guy. I don't like him, but he is clearly intelligent. I enjoy the companies he has set up, I just dislike his personality.
USA did rebuild several battered countries like Germany and Japan, and even south Korea, but the US did it for itself. All three countries are completed under the USA. The US jas many military bases in these making sure they are under its sphere of influence.
Well said. USA will never ever, do for the benefit of the other country. It will hold back other countrie's economy, techonlogy and more. That's built in it's Imperialist DNA including its former master UK
Yeah but ask those countries, they want the US there…because they have big scary neighbors who are likely to treat them worse. Japan, Korea and German all want to stay under the US umbrella, because they get protection from it from Russia and China.
@@jxmai7687 yeah with a huge amount of American help. You think they would have been able to rebuild if the US did not send foot to prevent starvation and famine? Yes they rebuilt their own nations with huge support and aid…now a few (China,Russia) want to revise history and pretend they were not helped out massively. Sad. We Americans still remember that the French helped us out to gain independence from Britian.
This statement makes no sense. Which global car maker only build cars in their home country, and which American car company doesn’t have a plant in China? It’s business. California literally drove him out of the state, and the US government shunned him for not using the union. What would you do when the second largest country offers to make what you need for half the cost?
Thucydides trap only work if both party had the same core interest (backyard). China and US is too far apart to engage in confrontation. US and USSR had a stronger rivalry than US and China yet they never went to war. this is because both side has plenty of room to grow and they are busy dominating their region. despite USSR and US establish alliances that border each other, those alliances never went to war. rather the 3 signature wars of the cold war was korea, vietnam and afghanistan, all of which are far from their alliance and core territories. in fact this mirrors what we see today with Ukraine and Israeli being wars that are as far from Beijing and Washingston as possible. so I actually don't see there being a risk of war. WWI and WWII is largely started by as a fight for dominance over europe by european powers. US was powerful but US didn't go around starting WWI and WWII...
@@lagrangewei That would be true if only geographic proximity was inconsideration. Unfortunately the US with its Monroe doctrine massively overreaches its influence, a trend that is increasing with NATO expansion and efforts to establish an Asian NATO pushes closely onto China's sphere of influence. This is clearly visible by the presence of US military bases surrounding China. The U.S. push to expand NATO into Asia mirrors the principles of the Monroe Doctrine, which sought to assert U.S. dominance by limiting foreign influence in the Western Hemisphere. Similarly, expanding NATO into Asia reflects America's modern strategy to extend its geopolitical influence and contain rival powers like China and Russia in critical regions. Both policies aim to consolidate U.S. control over global security dynamics and prevent adversaries from gaining influence in key strategic areas. We are definitely all at risk if they continue down this path to remain the worlds hegemonic power!
I've never had a problem with China. we grew up with them in Canada in the 80s and 90s. I believe we got along was because the disiplent we had in a first world country. I believe we all need each other's. Not firat place or second
About 4 years ago, I moved to a place right next to an airport. I noticed several Cessnas doing "touch and goes" from sunup to sundown, day after day without a break. I wondered why they were so busy. The mystery was solved when I took the daily bus which stopped at the same airport. I was the only Caucasian on the bus. Almost everyone else was Chinese. I found out, from one of the people sitting next to me, that they were all flight school students, learning to fly jets. I thought it was extremely odd that our country would, one hand, call China the enemy, and on the other hand, train the Chinese people to fly jets, which I assumed would be passenger jets...but I kept remembering the F22s that were obviously practicing at that same airport.
After 1788 Britain turned Australia into the World’s largest prison, a whole Continent. Therefore during WW1, Australia voted in two Referendums NOT to introduce Conscription to provide military aid for Britain. During WW1, all Australian Forces had joined voluntarily.
Bull. South Australia was a third of the continent without transportation. Conscription was irrelevant to transportation; the vote against it was simply that Australia was engaging in war as the only complete democracy to fight in WWI, as no other country had universal representation. The constitution prevented conscription for fighting overseas and that is the essence of a democracy, something that was unheard of at the time, let alone today. Besides, 10% of the population volunteered to form the only all volunteer national force from any country, and that was as much as any country can afford, particularly as an Australian infantryman was paid the same as a British junior officer.
Competing with a country 4 times your population, with equivalent IQ levels and working even harder than you, is a very bad odd. The US is holding its edge so far mostly because of starting early and the open society that foster innovation. The US needs to make very good use of the technological advantages that still exist, especially AI, automation and robotics, to offset the number advantage of China. Humanity needs a strong and open country to lead the way forward to space.
America Chas fallen behind in education. I think it was the head of Apple or one of the American giants of industry said. If you organised a meeting of engineers in America today you would hardly beget enough to fill a room, if you organised a meeting in China you would have to hire a stadium. Those words are not verbatim and may be an exaggeration but you get the picture
We had enough trouble occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. We have enough trouble managing our own cities. Perhaps we can conclude that we really do not know what we are doing, or are not really good at it.
We are the best at it. Our population is no longer invested in Imperialism. To be successful we need the whole nation on board. America could have took the world over after WW2, we were the only country with a nuke. We could have installed bases in every nation. And made them satellite states that reported to us. But we didn’t. Who knows why the U.S. fumbled world domination.
Since WWII, the U.S. has been involved in numerous regime changes, wars, and color revolutions to protect its strategic and economic interests. Key examples include coups in Iran (1953) and Guatemala (1954), the Bay of Pigs in Cuba (1961), and support for the overthrow of leaders in Chile (1973) and Congo (1960). The U.S. was also deeply involved in Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Nicaragua, often supporting insurgent groups. More recently, the U.S. played roles in the 2003 Iraq invasion, the 2011 NATO intervention in Libya, and support for opposition in Syria and Venezuela. Color revolutions in Eastern Europe, like Ukraine's 2014 Euromaidan, are also linked to U.S. influence. These interventions often destabilized regions, leading to long-term conflicts and power vacuums. I think this more than offsets the "conspicuous acts of kindness" they may have exhibited during WWII. Their behavior in recent times has been trending towards the tyrannical so I think Musk is definitely being biased and cherry picking his arguments in this case.
And Russia has been involved in way more regime changes, revolutions and genocidal wars, it's very confusing the point you're trying to make but glad I could clarify it
@@patrickfitzpatrick1600 my pleasure comrad! Russia was involved in pretty much all colonial wars, providing weapons to militias - all the while Russia is one of the largest colonoziers and is yet to give independence to its colonies. When do you think that will happen? Then of course lets not forget the invasion of Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya (with the horrific genocide of the Chechens), and of course Ukraine. Russia was deeply involved in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and is currently financing neo nazi groups across the globe, and terrorist groups in Africa. Every coup in Africa had the backing of Russia - why are they trying this new form of colonialism? Who knows... Of course all of these interventions destabilized whole regions and continents, and one of the reasons why so many countries wanted, and want to join NATO.
I’m a number one fan of Elon, but I don’t buy his reasoning regarding the US and China adversarial relations since Elon got a conflict of interest, he is deeply invested in China
He is just being a realist. China has far surpassed US in terms of infra/transportation, while their technology in any fields are on par if not better with US now. US really needs to step up in order to maintain its power. US is by far leading with its military might. But then for how long? China's rise is inevitable. It is up to US to decide whether it wants to stay on top with China (If no war between the 2 nation will occur) or to decline while China surpasses it. But one thing if for sure. They both need to coexist cuz if not, We are all f*cked..
“Dictator” gets a bad rap in a democratic society. Satya Nadella and even Steve Jobs were CEOs that dictated their companies to success. Xi wants whats best for his country and will lead it to prosperity. We can go on about his record of treatment of Muslims Uighyrs and maybe Tibetans but that’s like if people started criticizing racism in this country, coups in Latin America started by US politicians, how the US sells weapons to countries to fight in wars. Example Israel.
China isn't Athen. and US isn't Sparta. China was one of the 5 major victor of WWII together with USSR, China has always been a great power even when it was weak. furthermore the confrontation between US and USSR was far more serious than that of US and China, if US and USSR didn't fight even when the 2 has military alliance against each other, the likelihood for US fighting China is actually far lower than that. in fact I argue that historically global power avoid each other, in the cold war, most of the fighting is undertaken far from moscow and washington: in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan. why this is so is because global power like Russia, China and US are physically far apart, and their core interest lies closer to their surrounding than something happening half the world away, whereas Sparta and Athen were competing for the same backyard, they had the same core interest which is unlike the global powers of today. this is why the Ukraine war make sense in a world where China and US are the leading powers, because Ukraine is as far away from Washingston and Beijing as you can get, from China and US prespective it is better for EU and Russia to exhaust each other than for US and China to hurt each other. there is actually logic to this madness. the same is with the Israeli wars. so I actually do not think that war between US and China is at all likely. despite all the hype about Taiwan, Taiwan is simply not US core interest. US is more likely to just bomb TSMC to prevent it capture by China than to bother with attempting to save it which would result in China bombing TSMC to prevent a US rescue. so both side would destroy Taiwan than to allow Taiwan become a point of conflict between them. strategic liability should not be confuse for strategic asset, Taiwan is a liability to whoever control it since it is easier to destroy it than to occupy it.
I'd agree if we wait about a decade or two once semi conductors have been taken away from Taiwan. If china attacks Taiwan right now 90% of the most advanced semi conductors will stop being produced.
Are you serious right now? Do they have history books where you come from? You understand 5 years after the end of WW2 Americans marines were stacking Chinese soldiers ten high in the battle of the Chosen valley during the Korean War. The only reason the war was halted at the 38th parallel was due to massive Chinese attrition, the Chinese have even recently made major production films of this and other battles from this Era. There 900k Chinese soldiers killed during this war, arguably more than the actual WW2 period given the entire casualty numbers are unknown and derived from the Japanese invasion/occupation lasting more than a decade beforehand.
Taiwan is more than chips. It's an opening for their navy to escape the first island chain as well as a deep sea port for their navy. It's absolutely critical if they wish to expand their influence deeper into the Pacific it also allows them to create a choke point to 1/3 of Maritime trade. With their actions towards the phillipenes and ignoring their neighbors economic zones you can't think that letting them take Taiwan will sate their expansionist dreams. If you don't believe me look at the new 10 dash line map they just discovered.
The century of humilation wasnt a fluke… their culture is egotisical and closed minded to the rest of the world. Not industrializing when they should have got them in big trouble and they haven’t fostered good relationships with its neighbors.
An incredibly weak Argument, the origin of the US is largely European...Is Europe 400yrs old? China rise is largely due being Cheap labour. 90% of their 'innovations' are stolen from American and European companies. With Infrastructure they learned from Europeans and American Architects and so on. Yes the New Kid on the block is big but lets not make up stuff here.
Musk talked about POW of America and Russia in ww2, he forgot about how many Russians had died and how many Americans died. Take that into account then you can compared the behaviour.
Yes but that was just as much Stalin's fault as it was Hitler's. Stalin treated his people like cattle or chickens for slaughter. The Russians and Germans both were brutal. So were the Japanese. And later wars the Chinese and North Vietnamese were brutal as well. And by the way, those 800 bases all across the world, those countries willing gave us access to those bases. The United States did not take them by force and actually any country that doesn't want the U.S. there can actually evict the U.S. If they want.
Actually, the only countries that captured others in WWII with the intention to rebuild them to be independent countries were Australia and America, it is rare.
Interesting how both these guys, not even born in America, very pro US, both doing rather well for themselves in the American system as many do in their situation, 1st or 2nd generation... I'm 5th, 6th and more up to 12th generation and like a lot of people out there. A very different vibe for us folks a lot of time.
The reason Taiwan is not part of China is not because of the United States, it is because the people of Taiwan don't want to be reunited with China; and that is mainly because of the heavy-handed and brutal actions of the Chinese government. The Chinese government, with their actions in Hong Kong, lost a great opportunity to move towards reunification with Taiwan.
Stop spreading lies. I think you're either a child who hasn't ween out of milk yet or intentionally spread misinformation. Hong Kong is doing great despite UK and USA meddling it internal affair.
If California wanted independence because they don't like us government will you give them independence, no, of course, so why Taiwan has a right you don't even give to your own people?
Try this thought experiment about one world government. Let's say 10 satellite and cable companies are competing for your hard earned dollar . How do they treat you? What prices do they charge for their services? Are they trying really are hard to keep you as a customer? Do they treat you well ? Is the price fair ? Now imagine only one cable or satellite service in your area and ask all the same questions again.
We were always pro US. Sure, there were critical voices, but down to the line we always supported US in actions and policies. We always looked at Canada as the nice little brother of US and an ally as well. What do you think we, Europe, should have done different to show our gratitude towards your bigger brother?
He and everyone else missed the internal demographics of China impacting that rise to the degree that it is. It is an important variable to consider when examining what can happen.
Comparing China with someone who used nuclear weapons on civilian population killing thousands of babies and small children without any possible existing threat is beyond any rudeness 😢😢😢
White American politicians are projecting their colonialism onto China when China has very different worldview and culture - much more peace loving and much less colonial/acquisitive. The society is much safer, more harmonious and communal even though they have much less wealth than the Americans.
That’s peanut compared to Laos. Laos holds a world record: the most bombed country in the world. 7.7 million tons of explosives were dropped in Laos, by more than 580,000 air missions by the US Airforce on Laos between 1964 and 1973 during the Vietnam War. That’s more than three times the intensity of bombs dropped in all theaters of World War II. There are still 80 million bomblets that never went off remain live, buried over 35% of land area of Laos. A staggering 270 million bomblets were dropped in a country with a population of 2.5 million, to carpet a huge buffer zone to prevent weaponries to reach Vietnam. By 1975, 1/10th of Laos population was killed, 1/5th of the population wounded.
@@zeissiez The My Lai Massacre only became known because of a handful of soldiers/helicopter pilot, disgusted by the actions of the ground forces. As for Laos and the undeclared war with the carpet bombing of the entire region and expending more firepower over that decade than all the munitions used during WW2, yes, a nation scale atrocity criminally overlooked.
@@zeissiez There will be a re-evaluation of history, that's for sure. The current and "prevailing" perspective of good vs evil has long been a simplistic fairytale.
@@jin_asap I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the US technological prowess. Even if publicly the US may seem to be behind, the technology that is locked up in very secretive US military programs is unbelievable. So much so that if those technologies were to be used, the US could pretty easily take over the world (even in today's nuclear environment).
I do not agree that they are internally focused. My experience is they love comparing between each other and very much so between them and the West. Trying to find ways they are better.
Yes. But there is no real comparison. China can never attain the greatness of America because American does not lie in the size of its economy. Nor does it lie completely in the work ethic of its people. It's lies in what makes America America. It lies in our liberties. Communism cannot achieve this because communism restricts freedom of the people.
If they love comparing with each other, that means they are internally focused. The whole aim of the Communist party is to bring economic prosperity to the nation. Communists are human too. They have humanity and hearts.
@@jeffreyng1908 I hear what you’re saying, but consider this: they have about the same amount of taxes as Canada and the UK with practically none of the government services. In some respects Canada and the UK exercise more communist traits than China does.
@@jiff2323 I mean there are government buildings and the party directs construction projects that Elon Musk says surpasses that of the US. There are cameras on every street corner to deter crime. The party spends billions in the military so I’m not sure if it’s correct that they have little government.
The US won the wars in terms of military power, but yeah, US lost them if you take the wars’ economic impacts and ethical stuff. I will say the US didn’t truly lose any of them.
US helped rebuild countries to spread the dollar, and was always conditional on opening markets, adopting a % of american movies, music, Mercantilism and soft power, or meta culture as one of its various lethal weapons
Bro...all countries are in debt And the debt actually is the indicator or how strong the country is Why? Well because of FIAT currency. Fiat came after nixon removed gold from being tied to the dollar, or dollar tiex to gold. This is important because a lot of countries that exported to usa alao bought usa treasury with gold, and when they were to exchange back, usa would stand to lose a lot of gold Why do you think fort knox practically has everyones gold about 75% of the worlds reserve
@@vanillasnowx jajajajajajajaja, where the hell did you learn economy? If having a lot of debt was good Japan wouldn't be stuck for 50 years and Greece would be a superpower
Wilson after WW1 had drawn a map that would have solved problems in Anatolia that still persist today but was ultimately ignored and was changed following his death due to greedy relations with the newly formed Turkey
BRICS has surpassed G7 already and there's no sign of them slowing down. The leader in Energy(Russia) and the Leader in Technology and Industrial Might(China) can make or break any nation on the geopolitical stage. The US also relied heavily on Russian energy exports. With sanctions, this of course left an abundance of available resources between China and Russia to dump into other developing countries. China is building port and transportation infrastructure in these countries and Russia is also opening up the Arctic Trade Route for themselves and China. Meanwhile the US is melting into a rainbow and being used by her "friends" like a "free to take" bank! Why Elon Musk doesn't help separate Texas from the US and start a new banking system just blows my mind! He's richer than the Rothchilds.
All the BRICS countries are complete shitholes that are experiencing massive braindrains because anyone who’s intelligent or skilled tries to move to the west ASAP.
I heard too many stories about things coming apart over there as fast as they go up. So I wouldn't be too impressed by some of the things going on in China if it ends up being a rather thin veneer. (It'd be better to have stuff go up or together slower if there aren't too many corners being cut.)
Hstorically, loads of bull. USA absolutely extended its influence over all states that was able to, via Marshall Plan and NATO founding. The game was just played in two: see Korea, once upon a time that state was united. Secondly, Axis guys preferred to surrender to Americans because, Hello? Germany had just targeted the entirety of the slav world with an attempt to reduce it whole into slavery, following the Lebensraum and Ubermensch doctrines. But I will concede, the guy is onto something with the unprecedented acts of kindness strategy and belief in the good heart of the next guy. Marshall Plan was... also an extension of influence. Economy isn't zero sum, and people can be thankful to you to do something in your interest. The new cold war is already there, it's not a matter to avoid it. But to survive it. We should aim to actually build peace.
Well maybe the US did not literally take over the countries. Economically they actually did. Their influence is just insane. They own Europe. Australia , south America, middle east and lots of Asian, Pacific countries.
China is inquisitive. They are not just threatening Taiwan. He forgot the Philippines and Japan and Vietnam and others. If America was not there to keep them in check they would already own them.
China after WW2 was in ruins. As a Chinese American, I know the Chinese were wondering what went wrong. We are indeed inquisitive. Yes they tried to spread Communism, but that’s only a political and economic system that Mao thought was right. Elon Musk already said the infrastructure of China under the Communists surpasses anything the US has.
Wait wtf are you smoking?? Imperial japan invaded China and slaughtered over 30 million Chinese! If China wanted to annex and colonized their neighbors they would have done it thousands of years ago but they never did. Vietnam is an expansionist communist regime, they’re colonized Laos, Cambodia, and wanted to invade thailand until China stopped in. China has not done squat to the Philippines! Did you forget Spain and USA invaded and colonized the Philippines. China had never colonized and invaded the Philippines through out the thousands of years being neighbors.
What you're forgetting is, all the countries you mentioned are at odds by aligning to US which is also trying to contain China. Does China want South China Sea for the rich resources? Yes, they do, but so does everyone else. Look at the overlapping claims between all the nations involved. It's a fight for resources which requires military fight unless all of them are willing to resolve diplomatically.
Read the history, and understand why most countries have One China policy, Taiwan is part of China, even Taiwan's constitution says that. those countries also have border disbute with other countries.
Naw there’s waaaayyyyy more hard working ppl here in America then ppl think.. u think all this shits automated? Rail yards airports shipyards factories farms fast food restaurants bars/clubs taxis Lyfts Ubers coal mines military appliance delivery guys amazon ups fedex all there warehouse workers radio djs post office ppl electrician plumbers all the trade workers teachers doctors janitors lawyers police fishermen did I say coal miners? Truck drivers dmv workers all government workers vending machine guys gardeners garbage guys shout out to everyone out here working hidden in plain sight keeping America running 🇺🇸
It may be argued that historically, China has not been culturally oriented in imposing its hegemony beyond the Sinic regional sphere; it seems quite plausible to extend this observation to the present scheme, and conclude that despite its impressive recent economic and military ascendancy, China still has no global “acquisitive” designs - but that matters not at all because the United States is nothing if not an acquisitive power, and will under no circumstances tolerate the rise of any regional hegemon that could pose a potential challenge to its strategic security interests anywhere in the world. The Chinese, of course, are fully aware of this fact - as is everyone else - ergo, conflict between the United States and any other rising regional power (including China) is inevitable: THAT is the true ΘΟΥΚΥΔΙΔΗΣ trap...
6:53 What in seven hells is he even talking about?! What sort of Alternate History class did he attend to? I used to believe he's some kind of idealist, but this what he said there is why I think he's dangerous. Legitimately dangerous.
He's a brainwashed exceptionalist , that deluded himself into thinking he actually coded the whole paypal architecture ( i think it's easier to cope with being a fraud that way ) , whereas it's "borrowed" code....Now he's deluding himself into thinking Usa is the benevolent shining city on the hill that "saved" Europe ( by financing HEAVILY the nazi party then came after Russia beat them , to carpet bomb all european industry centers , carefully avoiding the SS outposts because there was too many valuable scientists in there ^^ and "paperclipped" them) ..... Of course the guy is dangerous , he's like a healthy meat eating Steve Jobs of the military industrial complex , minus 30 iq points but just as sociopathic as steve was , and that got coopted to be the media face of three major industries instead of just one to make them look fashionable . Steve jobs wanted to "change the world" , Elon wanna "coup" it
As in conquering by force and calling other territories US. It's descriptive reality that with nukes they could have done that. Japan could have been called right now another US state.
"The US has not been acquisitive." - an astoudingly ridiculous thing to say, or the context is so narrow as to be intentionally misleading. "...generally a benevolent force." - I get it, Lex must've slipped Elon an e.
In the case of international politics these things are never said directly, instead we invite a delegation to witness a weapons test, or even more subtle let the time and place of the test slip into media so they can watch it with a spy satellite. The Chinese have a long history of using and understanding extremely subtle forms of communication.
@@dstr1 but i was speaking of building in china. Google tofu dreg construction. But the days of china being the manufacturer of the world is over. India and mexico will take its place.
China is going to do whatever it wants to whomever they want to do it too, most of the time whoever won't find out only after it's been accomplished. Putins success is also China's success. Begin arrangements for offerings to live in U.S. for specific Tiawanias. ❤❤❤
Yes we see it coming; however, the consequences are unimaginable, there would be nothing left after the mutual destruction. A reasonable, mutually beneficial agreement, would have to be reached.
Can they triple ... their percapita in the future from current $12.000 to 20.000-36.000?is nett growth to 36.000 easy,hard,doable? Population increase is the worst way to increase a country GDP. There are many ways to increase it
@@andia968 I mean sure it’s possible, but it’s going to be very hard with the population aging China is experiencing. Chinese GDP road a demographic wave and globalization/trade. It’s population has peaked and is rapidly aging, and the relationships with its biggest trading partners are breaking down. China appears set for a Japanese strike lost decade based on the real estate market. That seems like a much more likely outcome then 2-3x GDP going forward.
We overthrew a government in Pakistan and installed one we preferred. The government we installed just authorized China to build their largest naval base outside of China on the Pakistan coast. Look at a map and tell me how this isn't a problem. Interesting how little the media is covering it. Disturbingly interesting.
I don’t think people realize how powerful the usa really is. We have more fighter jets than Russia and China combined! The USA has over 500 air refueling planes, China has 20 AWACS’s and the USA has over 40. The USA has 5,000 nukes, China has 500. The USA has 7 carriers China has 2 small ones. It’s a stark difference guys
From the World Population Review website: "The United States has ten cities with over 1 million people and an additional 27 with over 500,000 people. There are 317 U.S. cities with populations over 100,000." The Chinese stockpile clocking 500 nukes is not a coincidence. Conventional war between nuclear states is a thing of the past, so numbers beyond those matter little.
@ I agree, WW3 will go nuclear quickly. But again the usa has China outmatched in nukes. 500 nukes is not near enough. The USA has 1,000 military bases. Not to mention all the other targets. In a real WW3 Russia is more scary to me.
technically, the US surpassed Britain the 1880s yes. However, it didn't surpass the British empire until Britain started giving independence to these countries.
@@dailyrant4068 what do you mean it wasn't strong enough? The financial strain was of course there after WW2, but the empire still would have survived. The issue was the US and Soviet union that were allies with the UK supported de-colonization of countries like India. In addition, many countries wanted their own independence. Due to the formation of NATO and the UN, this prompted UK to give up these lands. More and more countries since India have got independence out of the UKs efforts, for moral basis, to give back.
@ I disagree that anything UK has ever done was based on moral ground. I’m not singling out UK, any country in civilization history does. Did you forget Ghandi was jailed? To say Uk supported decolonization is a stretch
@ ok, well your bias prevents the conversation continuing. By the way, Britain paved the way for ending slavery and fought against other powers to protect that freedom of others.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 right because you are not white washing it at all. Nowhere have I stated hatred like “Britain is evil” or “Britain shouldn’t have existed” type of thing. You are imagining things and actually the one projecting because you are the biased one. I simply stated universally no countries have really acted for greater good and simply out of self interest. I fully recognize that’s my opinion, unlike you who thinks your bias is factual
The US is eroding from within as we speak. You don't even have to go as far to China to see how other countries are flourishing. I went to Mexico and the amount of construction and expansion is insane, they are literally building entire cities as a single project. We are no longer the greatest Country on the planet especially in innovation and infrastructure. Just pick a country and go visit and you will soon realize we are decades behind many once poor nations in terms of progress and it's our own government that sold the country out for profits. Low cost education and Healthcare is the bedrock of prosperity. We have world class education but it's the rest of the world that takes advantage of it in all the right fields because most families can't afford $300k to send their kids to medical School or to get an engineering degree. How can we play the game if we aren't even on the field.
Alright folks! Not surprising but disappointing that Elon doesn't actually understand the relationship between China and Taiwan but I'll address it here. You can't "reunite" something that was never united in the first place. The PRC🇨🇳 has NEVER governed Taiwan and its islands in ANY century, decade, year, month, week, day, hour, minute, or second in history. More/most importantly, they DO NOT have the permission or CONSENT of the people. As a self proclaimed lover of the USA🇺🇸 I'm sure if a foreign regime that had NEVER held USA🇺🇸 territory before and DO NOT have the CONSENT of the people, Elon would fight against it. It was the PRC that declared independence from OUR government, NOT the other way around, and now they won't respect the independence of other people, who have ALWAYS been independent from them. Now they want to expand their territory and conquer lands and people they've never governed before, against their will. So no, it's NOT like Hawaii or Puerto Rico, because Hawaii and Puerto Rico are ACTUALLY a part of the USA 🇺🇸 . It was NOT the USA 🇺🇸 that "stopped peaceful reunification" , it's that the PRC 🇨🇳 want to conquer lands and people AGAINST THEIR WILL. You can't have "peaceful" annexation when one side doesn't want to be annexed into a immoral, incompetent regime; that's like saying if a Chinese guy can't accept that the Taiwanese woman JUST doesn't want to sleep with them, and if the American guy tells the Chinese guy not to rape her, then that's "getting in the way of my attempts to 'peacefully' have sex with her". 🤦♂ In fact, it was the naïve hope of the US that over time the PRC 🇨🇳 would democratize or at least liberalize and that the people in Taiwan would then be more open to having closer ties with them and maybe resolve their differences diplomatically. But as we know, the PRC 🇨🇳 DIDN'T in fact democratize or liberalize. EVEN IF they did, would the Americans today be open to being forcibly annexed by the UK, or Canada, given that the UK and Canada aren't nearly as bad as the PRC 🇨🇳? Come on! We'll give you free healthcare! They both speak English, just peacefully reunite with the UK! Screw your already existent independence! In 1979, the US wrote "the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;" basically that whatever happens and differences between the people on both sides that it is done non violently and not against the will, consent, and permission of the people.
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There are no two big powers. China is not a big powerful country.
ELON MUSK IS CONFUSED WITH CHINA & CCP. CHINESE & COMMUNIST CHINA. NO ORDINARY FOLKS CAN BE THE MEMBERS OF CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY. VERY SELECTIVE ELITES. CCP HIJACKS CHINA & KIDNAPS OVER 1 BILLION CHINESE SLAVES.
IF ELON MUSK KNOWS MORE HISTORY OF CULTURAL REVOLUTION FROM 1960-70s, HOW TRADITIONAL CHINESE CULTURE BE DESTROYED. THEN, WE KNOW MORE WHY CCP IS SO BRUTAL & AGGRESSIVE TO INVADE & DESTROY AMERICA, & THEY EVEN WANT TO DOMINATE THE WORLD.
CAN YOU SEE THE OLDER GENERATION IN POWER STILL HOLD THE EMPEROR MINDSETS TO CONTROL PEOPLE IN 21st CENTURY BUT THEY DONT REALLY UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY, HUMAN RIGHTS, JUSTICE. THEY ARE ANTI GOD. THEY THINK THEY ARE BIGGER THAN GOD. CAN YOU SEE CCP PARTY IS ABOVE EVERYTHING. ABOVE THE LAW. THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS NO CHECK & BALANCE.
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And you thought you new everything
OPPRESSED PEOPLE ARE FAR LESS CREATIVE & IMAGINATIVE THAN FREE PEOPLE.
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I knew an elderly gentleman that fought in the German army in WW2. His company surrendered to the Americans. He said they were so happy it was Americans and not Russians.
Ofc they would be happy. Russians were geneunly pissed at Germans for the destruction, pain, lost lives they caused.
I don't think its reliable to believe what a german said who fought against americans in WW2, ofcourse he would say he favors Americans, because Germany lost the war, and didn't wanted to be purged by Americans lol, If Russia took over Germany, I bet you that German soldier would have said the same but in favor of Russia 😂
Given what the Germans did in the Soviet Union vs what they did the US I'm sure he is glad. Germany openly committed war crimes all over the USSR thinking the same would never happen to them... till it did.
Well yeah, america joined the war late as always.. Russians lost more than any other nation in the war.. Canadians are the worst though.. most unethical war crime connoisseurs to ever walk the planet
@@jocoloco1320 anecdotal rubbish!!....i knew a man...blah blah blah!!
The US empire has 800 military bases all across the world, and no other country has more than 10.
US has NEVER won a war. Remember! So what is the point in having 800 bases ? Next war will see the end of USA and the war will not come out of a gun.
Pretty cool right ?
calling it an empire is not accurate . Everyone hosts those bases willingly . A coalition of democracies is nearer the mark.
@@AaronC123-q9tThat’s cute I like that 🧐😉🙊🙉🙈😂
@@greywolf2622 The truth triggers you .I get it.
If you have any facts to disprove what I said. let's hear it then ?.
You don't have any because America is not an empire.
Countries want American protection that's why they allow bases there.
Whether you agree with Musk or not, you've got to admit, this guy is very smart. Humans will not fare well against AI, let alone its prodigy.
Musk is an absolute genius
Musk is a salesmen, one with questionable morals.
@@Lucidveinhe's a very dumb guy. The Tesla company was built by 2 American engineers and then he took credits for that.😫😩👎👎
He didn't even know how to save those kids trapped in the cave in Thailand, remember.
He suggested to use submarines to rescuing them even though the water is so shallow, remember 😀😄😄👎👎
so why is he trying to put neuralink in peoples heads and teach cars to self drive?
@@James8591 I don't think it's fair to come him a dumb guy. I don't like him, but he is clearly intelligent. I enjoy the companies he has set up, I just dislike his personality.
Watching two AI's interact is surprisingly soothing. Even when talking about global war.
My advice to you is to not worry before the crisis, continue to live your life.
fact aint like we can do shit about it
USA did rebuild several battered countries like Germany and Japan, and even south Korea, but the US did it for itself. All three countries are completed under the USA. The US jas many military bases in these making sure they are under its sphere of influence.
Well said. USA will never ever, do for the benefit of the other country. It will hold back other countrie's economy, techonlogy and more. That's built in it's Imperialist DNA including its former master UK
Yeah but ask those countries, they want the US there…because they have big scary neighbors who are likely to treat them worse. Japan, Korea and German all want to stay under the US umbrella, because they get protection from it from Russia and China.
Usa rebuilt nothing in Germany ,Usa just sent some money , the Marshall plan was a shark loan , Germans rebuilt Germany ..Same for Japan
We can not forget it was the peoplr rebuild their own country.
@@jxmai7687 yeah with a huge amount of American help. You think they would have been able to rebuild if the US did not send foot to prevent starvation and famine? Yes they rebuilt their own nations with huge support and aid…now a few (China,Russia) want to revise history and pretend they were not helped out massively. Sad. We Americans still remember that the French helped us out to gain independence from Britian.
First time to hear Elon on his view regarding China and US-China relationship. Interesting.
Bro is letting his optimism shine!
For an American entrepreneur he definitely loves relying on Chinese manufacturing.
why do you type this as if that was a bad thing?
It is through such ties that historical back channels and agreement came to be made, let the man work
Like any other mayor company in the US
Absolute loser shit….faux intellectualism at it’s finest….both of these chodes.
This statement makes no sense. Which global car maker only build cars in their home country, and which American car company doesn’t have a plant in China? It’s business. California literally drove him out of the state, and the US government shunned him for not using the union. What would you do when the second largest country offers to make what you need for half the cost?
Thucydides trap applies only when both parties are warmongers. In present scenario there is only one warmonger. I have faith that peace with prevail
Well said and great perception
Absolutely TRUE !!
@@user-gp9mk7wm1s only one adult in the room! I hope you're right!
Thucydides trap only work if both party had the same core interest (backyard). China and US is too far apart to engage in confrontation. US and USSR had a stronger rivalry than US and China yet they never went to war. this is because both side has plenty of room to grow and they are busy dominating their region. despite USSR and US establish alliances that border each other, those alliances never went to war. rather the 3 signature wars of the cold war was korea, vietnam and afghanistan, all of which are far from their alliance and core territories. in fact this mirrors what we see today with Ukraine and Israeli being wars that are as far from Beijing and Washingston as possible. so I actually don't see there being a risk of war. WWI and WWII is largely started by as a fight for dominance over europe by european powers. US was powerful but US didn't go around starting WWI and WWII...
@@lagrangewei That would be true if only geographic proximity was inconsideration. Unfortunately the US with its Monroe doctrine massively overreaches its influence, a trend that is increasing with NATO expansion and efforts to establish an Asian NATO pushes closely onto China's sphere of influence. This is clearly visible by the presence of US military bases surrounding China. The U.S. push to expand NATO into Asia mirrors the principles of the Monroe Doctrine, which sought to assert U.S. dominance by limiting foreign influence in the Western Hemisphere. Similarly, expanding NATO into Asia reflects America's modern strategy to extend its geopolitical influence and contain rival powers like China and Russia in critical regions. Both policies aim to consolidate U.S. control over global security dynamics and prevent adversaries from gaining influence in key strategic areas. We are definitely all at risk if they continue down this path to remain the worlds hegemonic power!
I've never had a problem with China. we grew up with them in Canada in the 80s and 90s. I believe we got along was because the disiplent we had in a first world country. I believe we all need each other's. Not firat place or second
China disagrees with you! They want 1st place. You're so naive. There is always ranking in society. Without it, there will be no order.
About 4 years ago, I moved to a place right next to an airport. I noticed several Cessnas doing "touch and goes" from sunup to sundown, day after day without a break. I wondered why they were so busy. The mystery was solved when I took the daily bus which stopped at the same airport. I was the only Caucasian on the bus. Almost everyone else was Chinese. I found out, from one of the people sitting next to me, that they were all flight school students, learning to fly jets. I thought it was extremely odd that our country would, one hand, call China the enemy, and on the other hand, train the Chinese people to fly jets, which I assumed would be passenger jets...but I kept remembering the F22s that were obviously practicing at that same airport.
Musk knows what side of his bread is buttered.
After 1788 Britain turned Australia into the World’s largest prison, a whole Continent. Therefore during WW1, Australia voted in two Referendums NOT to introduce Conscription to provide military aid for Britain. During WW1, all Australian Forces had joined voluntarily.
Bull. South Australia was a third of the continent without transportation. Conscription was irrelevant to transportation; the vote against it was simply that Australia was engaging in war as the only complete democracy to fight in WWI, as no other country had universal representation. The constitution prevented conscription for fighting overseas and that is the essence of a democracy, something that was unheard of at the time, let alone today. Besides, 10% of the population volunteered to form the only all volunteer national force from any country, and that was as much as any country can afford, particularly as an Australian infantryman was paid the same as a British junior officer.
One thing is for sure: every empire has eventually met its end.
"Empire" is a whote person's way of humble bragging about the shithole they created 😂
Some of them lasted for more than thousand years
If Elon says something negative n there goes his Factory
Is there a chance that he is telling the truth?
@@heliosasherno look at the facts not ccp propaganda
Funny how you think China is trash, when the U.S. government started a trade war to bring down China.
@@leprechaunbutreallyjustamidget Anything you don't like is propaganda. That's the logic everywhere these days
Surprised this UA-cam got Elon musk on. But glad for him, he makes good videos
Competing with a country 4 times your population, with equivalent IQ levels and working even harder than you, is a very bad odd. The US is holding its edge so far mostly because of starting early and the open society that foster innovation.
The US needs to make very good use of the technological advantages that still exist, especially AI, automation and robotics, to offset the number advantage of China. Humanity needs a strong and open country to lead the way forward to space.
China will surpass US technology
Completely agree with your perspective of the US in the context of technology.
America Chas fallen behind in education. I think it was the head of Apple or one of the American giants of industry said. If you organised a meeting of engineers in America today you would hardly beget enough to fill a room, if you organised a meeting in China you would have to hire a stadium. Those words are not verbatim and may be an exaggeration but you get the picture
Equivalent IQ?? 😂😂😂😂
Open society that fosters innovation?? 😂😂😂😂 Like what, your iPhone? 😂
We had enough trouble occupying Iraq and Afghanistan. We have enough trouble managing our own cities. Perhaps we can conclude that we really do not know what we are doing, or are not really good at it.
I wonder if the 400+ million people in China that live in squaler would agree with you?
We are the best at it. Our population is no longer invested in Imperialism. To be successful we need the whole nation on board. America could have took the world over after WW2, we were the only country with a nuke. We could have installed bases in every nation. And made them satellite states that reported to us. But we didn’t. Who knows why the U.S. fumbled world domination.
Not true, with Iraq and Afghanistan we were at war with groups of people not the country. Look what happened to Iraq during the Invasion of Kuwait.
We would be still the most powerful economically and Industrial wise but our politicians sold us out
War is not always about Winning and loosing; Its Mostly about why, WHY IS WHOM AT WAR WITH WHOM,
that tis the question Sherlock
Since WWII, the U.S. has been involved in numerous regime changes, wars, and color revolutions to protect its strategic and economic interests. Key examples include coups in Iran (1953) and Guatemala (1954), the Bay of Pigs in Cuba (1961), and support for the overthrow of leaders in Chile (1973) and Congo (1960). The U.S. was also deeply involved in Vietnam, Cambodia, Afghanistan, and Nicaragua, often supporting insurgent groups. More recently, the U.S. played roles in the 2003 Iraq invasion, the 2011 NATO intervention in Libya, and support for opposition in Syria and Venezuela. Color revolutions in Eastern Europe, like Ukraine's 2014 Euromaidan, are also linked to U.S. influence. These interventions often destabilized regions, leading to long-term conflicts and power vacuums. I think this more than offsets the "conspicuous acts of kindness" they may have exhibited during WWII. Their behavior in recent times has been trending towards the tyrannical so I think Musk is definitely being biased and cherry picking his arguments in this case.
And Russia has been involved in way more regime changes, revolutions and genocidal wars, it's very confusing the point you're trying to make but glad I could clarify it
@@ChauvinistTrolldid not mention Russia one time, what’s ur point?
@@ChauvinistTroll please do clarify it!
@@qianshanli7552 The title of the video is USA and China!
@@patrickfitzpatrick1600 my pleasure comrad!
Russia was involved in pretty much all colonial wars, providing weapons to militias - all the while Russia is one of the largest colonoziers and is yet to give independence to its colonies. When do you think that will happen?
Then of course lets not forget the invasion of Moldova, Georgia, Chechnya (with the horrific genocide of the Chechens), and of course Ukraine.
Russia was deeply involved in Vietnam, Afghanistan, and is currently financing neo nazi groups across the globe, and terrorist groups in Africa. Every coup in Africa had the backing of Russia - why are they trying this new form of colonialism? Who knows...
Of course all of these interventions destabilized whole regions and continents, and one of the reasons why so many countries wanted, and want to join NATO.
I’m a number one fan of Elon, but I don’t buy his reasoning regarding the US and China adversarial relations since Elon got a conflict of interest, he is deeply invested in China
Isn't he deeply invested in the US as well?
He is just being a realist. China has far surpassed US in terms of infra/transportation, while their technology in any fields are on par if not better with US now. US really needs to step up in order to maintain its power. US is by far leading with its military might. But then for how long? China's rise is inevitable. It is up to US to decide whether it wants to stay on top with China (If no war between the 2 nation will occur) or to decline while China surpasses it. But one thing if for sure. They both need to coexist cuz if not, We are all f*cked..
@@duncankowablesame doesn’t happen in US. Negotiations doesn’t work with China
@@duncankowable I don’t buy his Thucydides BS, Jinping
Thats categorically false. The u.s and china are the largest trading partners in the world.@tomorrowland2684
great business man and a visionary. he’s greatest asset is attracting very talented people to work for his vision. great insights.
The question should be " Would you rather live under a ruthless dictator or choose your own destiny?". Then decide which country is greater.
“Dictator” gets a bad rap in a democratic society. Satya Nadella and even Steve Jobs were CEOs that dictated their companies to success. Xi wants whats best for his country and will lead it to prosperity. We can go on about his record of treatment of Muslims Uighyrs and maybe Tibetans but that’s like if people started criticizing racism in this country, coups in Latin America started by US politicians, how the US sells weapons to countries to fight in wars. Example Israel.
Have you ever been in china? It's wayyyy safer than the USA, choose your own destiny? You can't even go to university without getting debt for life
When was this interview? It is obviously much older than the date it is posted.
China isn't Athen. and US isn't Sparta. China was one of the 5 major victor of WWII together with USSR, China has always been a great power even when it was weak. furthermore the confrontation between US and USSR was far more serious than that of US and China, if US and USSR didn't fight even when the 2 has military alliance against each other, the likelihood for US fighting China is actually far lower than that.
in fact I argue that historically global power avoid each other, in the cold war, most of the fighting is undertaken far from moscow and washington: in Korea, in Vietnam, in Afghanistan. why this is so is because global power like Russia, China and US are physically far apart, and their core interest lies closer to their surrounding than something happening half the world away, whereas Sparta and Athen were competing for the same backyard, they had the same core interest which is unlike the global powers of today. this is why the Ukraine war make sense in a world where China and US are the leading powers, because Ukraine is as far away from Washingston and Beijing as you can get, from China and US prespective it is better for EU and Russia to exhaust each other than for US and China to hurt each other. there is actually logic to this madness. the same is with the Israeli wars.
so I actually do not think that war between US and China is at all likely. despite all the hype about Taiwan, Taiwan is simply not US core interest. US is more likely to just bomb TSMC to prevent it capture by China than to bother with attempting to save it which would result in China bombing TSMC to prevent a US rescue. so both side would destroy Taiwan than to allow Taiwan become a point of conflict between them. strategic liability should not be confuse for strategic asset, Taiwan is a liability to whoever control it since it is easier to destroy it than to occupy it.
Thanks, sold all my TSMC!
I'd agree if we wait about a decade or two once semi conductors have been taken away from Taiwan. If china attacks Taiwan right now 90% of the most advanced semi conductors will stop being produced.
Are you serious right now? Do they have history books where you come from? You understand 5 years after the end of WW2 Americans marines were stacking Chinese soldiers ten high in the battle of the Chosen valley during the Korean War. The only reason the war was halted at the 38th parallel was due to massive Chinese attrition, the Chinese have even recently made major production films of this and other battles from this Era. There 900k Chinese soldiers killed during this war, arguably more than the actual WW2 period given the entire casualty numbers are unknown and derived from the Japanese invasion/occupation lasting more than a decade beforehand.
Taiwan is more than chips. It's an opening for their navy to escape the first island chain as well as a deep sea port for their navy. It's absolutely critical if they wish to expand their influence deeper into the Pacific it also allows them to create a choke point to 1/3 of Maritime trade. With their actions towards the phillipenes and ignoring their neighbors economic zones you can't think that letting them take Taiwan will sate their expansionist dreams. If you don't believe me look at the new 10 dash line map they just discovered.
The century of humilation wasnt a fluke… their culture is egotisical and closed minded to the rest of the world. Not industrializing when they should have got them in big trouble and they haven’t fostered good relationships with its neighbors.
Not sure those detained in Guantanamo would be saying the Americans are the first choice to be a pow for…
The new kid on the Block comes with 5000 years of history compared to 400 years.
There are civilizations older than the new kid on the block. They aren't doing so well. So what's your point? 🥱
Other old kids are dead, China is only one survived, I believe.
An incredibly weak Argument, the origin of the US is largely European...Is Europe 400yrs old? China rise is largely due being Cheap labour. 90% of their 'innovations' are stolen from American and European companies. With Infrastructure they learned from Europeans and American Architects and so on. Yes the New Kid on the block is big but lets not make up stuff here.
@@ericreed4535 SURVIVAL
@@bartsolari5035 Wouldn't "thriving" beat surviving?
Take it from the man who's been there, done that, read about that, has that, got that. Mr. Elon Musk.
Throughout history, all empires have fallen. The downfall of the US will not be an exception to the rule, and we are witnessing the downfall.
Elon Musk is a hero ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Musk talked about POW of America and Russia in ww2, he forgot about how many Russians had died and how many Americans died.
Take that into account then you can compared the behaviour.
What's your point??
Allies did not mass slaughter thier prisoners like the Nazis or the Soviets did.
USA must have forgotten WWII. See Guantanamo and Abhu Graib for example
Yes but that was just as much Stalin's fault as it was Hitler's. Stalin treated his people like cattle or chickens for slaughter. The Russians and Germans both were brutal. So were the Japanese. And later wars the Chinese and North Vietnamese were brutal as well. And by the way, those 800 bases all across the world, those countries willing gave us access to those bases. The United States did not take them by force and actually any country that doesn't want the U.S. there can actually evict the U.S. If they want.
Soviets were animals, regardless of their sacrifice in the war they should not be in charge of anything but their own fatalist, miserable population.
@@maximillianrodriguez5631America has done worse than either. 😂 morality isn't something Americans posess
Interesting about the werner von Braun escape
And this, ladies and gentleman, this is why US economy is in tatters I say. IN TATTERS!!
Rightfully
compared to china?? bhhahahahahhhaha 600 million live in poverty in china
What would a relative comparison of the economies of other countries reveal? If the US's in tatters what are the others in?
Whatever. Musk is with the US and commies still can not copy musk's reusable rockets.
@@ericreed4535 RIGHT
These are Elon's opinions. He has a unique perspective, and I'm interested to hear it..
Actually, the only countries that captured others in WWII with the intention to rebuild them to be independent countries were Australia and America, it is rare.
Interesting how both these guys, not even born in America, very pro US, both doing rather well for themselves in the American system as many do in their situation, 1st or 2nd generation... I'm 5th, 6th and more up to 12th generation and like a lot of people out there. A very different vibe for us folks a lot of time.
Elon Musk aka the smartest man in the world
Good point about who to surrender to
The reason Taiwan is not part of China is not because of the United States, it is because the people of Taiwan don't want to be reunited with China; and that is mainly because of the heavy-handed and brutal actions of the Chinese government.
The Chinese government, with their actions in Hong Kong, lost a great opportunity to move towards reunification with Taiwan.
Stop spreading lies. I think you're either a child who hasn't ween out of milk yet or intentionally spread misinformation.
Hong Kong is doing great despite UK and USA meddling it internal affair.
nonsense - US interference is precisely why TW under ROC states it's part of China while TWs population is >97% Han Chinese
What exactly happened with the treatment of HK after 1997?
If California wanted independence because they don't like us government will you give them independence, no, of course, so why Taiwan has a right you don't even give to your own people?
And like it or not ,but Taiwan will become part of china again , maybe not in 10 years, or even 50 , but it will
If aliens don't exist humans will never unite it's impossible
Try this thought experiment about one world government.
Let's say 10 satellite and cable companies are competing for your hard earned dollar . How do they treat you?
What prices do they charge for their services?
Are they trying really are hard to keep you as a customer?
Do they treat you well ?
Is the price fair ?
Now imagine only one cable or satellite service in your area and ask all the same questions again.
All these countries in europe are so ungrateful when it comes to the U.S and im Canadian
What makes you think that? And im Dutch
We were always pro US. Sure, there were critical voices, but down to the line we always supported US in actions and policies. We always looked at Canada as the nice little brother of US and an ally as well.
What do you think we, Europe, should have done different to show our gratitude towards your bigger brother?
real canadians dont wear MEGA hats.
He and everyone else missed the internal demographics of China impacting that rise to the degree that it is. It is an important variable to consider when examining what can happen.
Tofu construction is more impressive than in the U.S. Very interesting take
There also that US engineered tofu ISS thats leaking like a sieve.
Cope😂
You mean like Boeing Stuckliner and flying door 737Max?😂😂😂
@@directxxxx71 you’re comparing the U.S. plane industry VS the Chinese? Good luck with that one lol
Bro thinks LEDs are impressive engineering feats
I find Elon's use of the word inquisitive to be perplexing.
Comparing China with someone who used nuclear weapons on civilian population killing thousands of babies and small children without any possible existing threat is beyond any rudeness 😢😢😢
White American politicians are projecting their colonialism onto China when China has very different worldview and culture - much more peace loving and much less colonial/acquisitive. The society is much safer, more harmonious and communal even though they have much less wealth than the Americans.
Ever heard about mao Zedong?!
Naive
LOL. What scares the guy most from Chima is their Railways and Train stations. Chinese and Greeks like to write
from a chinese perspective, Taiwan is part of China. So perfectly fitting the internal focus
Elon is pretty objective with his analysis
Wonder how the villagers of My Lai, Vietnam, would have felt if given the choice of US intervention or not?.
Cant answer that, theyre all dead.
That’s peanut compared to Laos. Laos holds a world record: the most bombed country in the world. 7.7 million tons of explosives were dropped in Laos, by more than 580,000 air missions by the US Airforce on Laos between 1964 and 1973 during the Vietnam War. That’s more than three times the intensity of bombs dropped in all theaters of World War II. There are still 80 million bomblets that never went off remain live, buried over 35% of land area of Laos. A staggering 270 million bomblets were dropped in a country with a population of 2.5 million, to carpet a huge buffer zone to prevent weaponries to reach Vietnam. By 1975, 1/10th of Laos population was killed, 1/5th of the population wounded.
@@zeissiez The My Lai Massacre only became known because of a handful of soldiers/helicopter pilot, disgusted by the actions of the ground forces. As for Laos and the undeclared war with the carpet bombing of the entire region and expending more firepower over that decade than all the munitions used during WW2, yes, a nation scale atrocity criminally overlooked.
@@pikachus5m166
And they say Hitler was cruel
@@zeissiez There will be a re-evaluation of history, that's for sure. The current and "prevailing" perspective of good vs evil has long been a simplistic fairytale.
not to forget , use of orange agent too
I love the way his eyes swivel as he tries to remember his scripted talking points lol
Twice our size , we've been training for war for 200 years, so it will be like a samurai against a redheaded stepchild.
And all of humanity will lose 🤦♂️
Like Vietnam CO Afghanistan?
The US military relies on thousands of Chinese suppliers. US military has been shrinking and US is behind in 57 of 64 critical techs.
@@jin_asap I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the US technological prowess. Even if publicly the US may seem to be behind, the technology that is locked up in very secretive US military programs is unbelievable. So much so that if those technologies were to be used, the US could pretty easily take over the world (even in today's nuclear environment).
samuri literally got battered by Chinese army lol, if you know history.
You're evaluating an Eastern mindset (China) with a Western book. Good job.
I do not agree that they are internally focused. My experience is they love comparing between each other and very much so between them and the West. Trying to find ways they are better.
Yes. But there is no real comparison. China can never attain the greatness of America because American does not lie in the size of its economy. Nor does it lie completely in the work ethic of its people. It's lies in what makes America America. It lies in our liberties. Communism cannot achieve this because communism restricts freedom of the people.
If they love comparing with each other, that means they are internally focused. The whole aim of the Communist party is to bring economic prosperity to the nation. Communists are human too. They have humanity and hearts.
@@jeffreyng1908 I hear what you’re saying, but consider this: they have about the same amount of taxes as Canada and the UK with practically none of the government services. In some respects Canada and the UK exercise more communist traits than China does.
@@jiff2323 I mean there are government buildings and the party directs construction projects that Elon Musk says surpasses that of the US. There are cameras on every street corner to deter crime. The party spends billions in the military so I’m not sure if it’s correct that they have little government.
Magnanimity is the only way to perpetuate Peace. And the underlying principle is the Golden Rule illuminated by Grace.
America did start to do that since the 50s, starting with Korean war, and losing every war ever since
Your understanding of history is completely false
You,obviously know nothing about war history
Losing? Really... When America lost is because it let the other side win.
You completely fail to comprehend history.
The US won the wars in terms of military power, but yeah, US lost them if you take the wars’ economic impacts and ethical stuff.
I will say the US didn’t truly lose any of them.
US helped rebuild countries to spread the dollar, and was always conditional on opening markets, adopting a % of american movies, music, Mercantilism and soft power, or meta culture as one of its various lethal weapons
I read the comments below and everyone's a expert. All I'm going to say is who's 35 trillion in debt?
EXACTLY.
Yeah, they think america will be first superpower forever
A better question would be who are they indebted to… some may be surprised who the current largest holder of American debt is.
Bro...all countries are in debt
And the debt actually is the indicator or how strong the country is
Why? Well because of FIAT currency. Fiat came after nixon removed gold from being tied to the dollar, or dollar tiex to gold.
This is important because a lot of countries that exported to usa alao bought usa treasury with gold, and when they were to exchange back, usa would stand to lose a lot of gold
Why do you think fort knox practically has everyones gold about 75% of the worlds reserve
@@vanillasnowx jajajajajajajaja, where the hell did you learn economy? If having a lot of debt was good Japan wouldn't be stuck for 50 years and Greece would be a superpower
America and China may be non-aquisitive, but that doesn`t mean that either or both are benign. Power tends to corrupt, absolute power, etc etc...
Elon is south african
Born in South Africa. Mother was Canadian.
Moved to Canada in early teens, studied in a Canadian University for 2 years before transferring to U Penn.
British colony.
@@tolurker1Still south african
@@19CobreAmerican citizen though
Blinken has Israeli citizenship as well. Elon isn't a government official. Just a private citizen
I always take what people who are super invested in something with a grain of salt.
Don’t insult your orange buddies bestie Vlad
Wilson after WW1 had drawn a map that would have solved problems in Anatolia that still persist today but was ultimately ignored and was changed following his death due to greedy relations with the newly formed Turkey
BRICS has surpassed G7 already and there's no sign of them slowing down. The leader in Energy(Russia) and the Leader in Technology and Industrial Might(China) can make or break any nation on the geopolitical stage. The US also relied heavily on Russian energy exports. With sanctions, this of course left an abundance of available resources between China and Russia to dump into other developing countries. China is building port and transportation infrastructure in these countries and Russia is also opening up the Arctic Trade Route for themselves and China. Meanwhile the US is melting into a rainbow and being used by her "friends" like a "free to take" bank!
Why Elon Musk doesn't help separate Texas from the US and start a new banking system just blows my mind! He's richer than the Rothchilds.
All the BRICS countries are complete shitholes that are experiencing massive braindrains because anyone who’s intelligent or skilled tries to move to the west ASAP.
I heard too many stories about things coming apart over there as fast as they go up. So I wouldn't be too impressed by some of the things going on in China if it ends up being a rather thin veneer. (It'd be better to have stuff go up or together slower if there aren't too many corners being cut.)
Hstorically, loads of bull.
USA absolutely extended its influence over all states that was able to, via Marshall Plan and NATO founding. The game was just played in two: see Korea, once upon a time that state was united.
Secondly, Axis guys preferred to surrender to Americans because, Hello? Germany had just targeted the entirety of the slav world with an attempt to reduce it whole into slavery, following the Lebensraum and Ubermensch doctrines.
But I will concede, the guy is onto something with the unprecedented acts of kindness strategy and belief in the good heart of the next guy.
Marshall Plan was... also an extension of influence.
Economy isn't zero sum, and people can be thankful to you to do something in your interest.
The new cold war is already there, it's not a matter to avoid it. But to survive it.
We should aim to actually build peace.
Well maybe the US did not literally take over the countries. Economically they actually did. Their influence is just insane. They own Europe. Australia , south America, middle east and lots of Asian, Pacific countries.
China is inquisitive. They are not just threatening Taiwan. He forgot the Philippines and Japan and Vietnam and others. If America was not there to keep them in check they would already own them.
China after WW2 was in ruins. As a Chinese American, I know the Chinese were wondering what went wrong. We are indeed inquisitive. Yes they tried to spread Communism, but that’s only a political and economic system that Mao thought was right. Elon Musk already said the infrastructure of China under the Communists surpasses anything the US has.
Wait wtf are you smoking?? Imperial japan invaded China and slaughtered over 30 million Chinese! If China wanted to annex and colonized their neighbors they would have done it thousands of years ago but they never did. Vietnam is an expansionist communist regime, they’re colonized Laos, Cambodia, and wanted to invade thailand until China stopped in. China has not done squat to the Philippines! Did you forget Spain and USA invaded and colonized the Philippines. China had never colonized and invaded the Philippines through out the thousands of years being neighbors.
What you're forgetting is, all the countries you mentioned are at odds by aligning to US which is also trying to contain China.
Does China want South China Sea for the rich resources? Yes, they do, but so does everyone else. Look at the overlapping claims between all the nations involved. It's a fight for resources which requires military fight unless all of them are willing to resolve diplomatically.
Read the history, and understand why most countries have One China policy, Taiwan is part of China, even Taiwan's constitution says that. those countries also have border disbute with other countries.
@ I would say the Tiawan people and government would strongly disagree with you.
China is not acquisitive? Look at Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Xinjiang province.
They are parts of China since ancient times 🎉 (classic answer)
Musk is not tottaly wrong... China never colonized any countries across the sea.
they are part of china from Qing Dynasty, what do you want to say? let the speratists make the country apart? in your dream.
US is not acquisitive? Free Hawaii Free New Mexico
Look at a map of the qing empire.
我一拳打你脸上。
American POW are treated better than it's citizens so yeah, who wouldn't want to be an American POW, better than an American slave.
ELON SAID IT RIGHT CHINESE PEOPLE IS HARD WORKING AND NOT LAZY. NOTHING IS GIVING OUT THERE USA PEOPLE ONLY WANT WANT COMPLAIN AND LAZY.
That is why in Age of Empire 4 China has a boost in construction speed!
Chinese people speaks speaks lot in internets
Naw there’s waaaayyyyy more hard working ppl here in America then ppl think.. u think all this shits automated? Rail yards airports shipyards factories farms fast food restaurants bars/clubs taxis Lyfts Ubers coal mines military appliance delivery guys amazon ups fedex all there warehouse workers radio djs post office ppl electrician plumbers all the trade workers teachers doctors janitors lawyers police fishermen did I say coal miners? Truck drivers dmv workers all government workers vending machine guys gardeners garbage guys shout out to everyone out here working hidden in plain sight keeping America running 🇺🇸
It may be argued that historically, China has not been culturally oriented in imposing its hegemony beyond the Sinic regional sphere; it seems quite plausible to extend this observation to the present scheme, and conclude that despite its impressive recent economic and military ascendancy, China still has no global “acquisitive” designs - but that matters not at all because the United States is nothing if not an acquisitive power, and will under no circumstances tolerate the rise of any regional hegemon that could pose a potential challenge to its strategic security interests anywhere in the world. The Chinese, of course, are fully aware of this fact - as is everyone else - ergo, conflict between the United States and any other rising regional power (including China) is inevitable: THAT is the true ΘΟΥΚΥΔΙΔΗΣ trap...
6:53 What in seven hells is he even talking about?! What sort of Alternate History class did he attend to? I used to believe he's some kind of idealist, but this what he said there is why I think he's dangerous. Legitimately dangerous.
He's a brainwashed exceptionalist , that deluded himself into thinking he actually coded the whole paypal architecture ( i think it's easier to cope with being a fraud that way ) , whereas it's "borrowed" code....Now he's deluding himself into thinking Usa is the benevolent shining city on the hill that "saved" Europe ( by financing HEAVILY the nazi party then came after Russia beat them , to carpet bomb all european industry centers , carefully avoiding the SS outposts because there was too many valuable scientists in there ^^ and "paperclipped" them) .....
Of course the guy is dangerous , he's like a healthy meat eating Steve Jobs of the military industrial complex , minus 30 iq points but just as sociopathic as steve was , and that got coopted to be the media face of three major industries instead of just one to make them look fashionable .
Steve jobs wanted to "change the world" , Elon wanna "coup" it
As in conquering by force and calling other territories US. It's descriptive reality that with nukes they could have done that. Japan could have been called right now another US state.
He has a very smart take on China despite being a Westerner.
Always one idiot who can’t understand what smart people are talking about😂
What do you disagree with? What did he say that was wrong?
"The US has not been acquisitive." - an astoudingly ridiculous thing to say, or the context is so narrow as to be intentionally misleading.
"...generally a benevolent force." - I get it, Lex must've slipped Elon an e.
In the case of international politics these things are never said directly, instead we invite a delegation to witness a weapons test, or even more subtle let the time and place of the test slip into media so they can watch it with a spy satellite. The Chinese have a long history of using and understanding extremely subtle forms of communication.
Chinese construction is famously poor quality what is he talking about?
Most likely stuff from Harbor Freight !
@savagecub you forgot the majority of built objects around you. Including many labeled made elsewhere!!
@@dstr1 but i was speaking of building in china. Google tofu dreg construction.
But the days of china being the manufacturer of the world is over. India and mexico will take its place.
World's fastest HSR is in China.
You've been lied to. This is propaganda.
China is going to do whatever it wants to whomever they want to do it too, most of the time whoever won't find out only after it's been accomplished. Putins success is also China's success. Begin arrangements for offerings to live in U.S. for specific Tiawanias. ❤❤❤
Elon Musk proved himself to be no friend of the United States. He lost our respect.
How so?
@@stevefranseen1905 google it
Who are you? and what has Musk done to you?
Yes we see it coming; however, the consequences are unimaginable, there would be nothing left after the mutual destruction. A reasonable, mutually beneficial agreement, would have to be reached.
Did he say China will be 2-3 times the US size? Seems unlikely given current trajectories.
yup! Printing money, raising benchmark interest rates, fiscal deficits, phony numbers games🤤
Can they triple ... their percapita in the future from current $12.000 to 20.000-36.000?is nett growth to 36.000 easy,hard,doable? Population increase is the worst way to increase a country GDP. There are many ways to increase it
@@andia968 I mean sure it’s possible, but it’s going to be very hard with the population aging China is experiencing. Chinese GDP road a demographic wave and globalization/trade. It’s population has peaked and is rapidly aging, and the relationships with its biggest trading partners are breaking down. China appears set for a Japanese strike lost decade based on the real estate market. That seems like a much more likely outcome then 2-3x GDP going forward.
@@后宫后 yes China does print a lot of money…
@@davidradtke160 very true, just in four years they've printed like 8-11 trillion dollars. Haven't they???
I guess Elon doesn't want to talk about Tibet
architecture more impressive in china? those apartment buildings….
The torch pass has been planned.
The 🇺🇸 built wealth for the world. We need to keep moving for those who are lazy and incompetent
We need to build our own micro chips
We overthrew a government in Pakistan and installed one we preferred. The government we installed just authorized China to build their largest naval base outside of China on the Pakistan coast. Look at a map and tell me how this isn't a problem. Interesting how little the media is covering it. Disturbingly interesting.
Ah ha. Lol Xi. You all are funny. Controlled by who though
Someones giving Xi bad looks? 3.5 billion Chinese that desire freedom
It's gonna happen !
I don’t think people realize how powerful the usa really is. We have more fighter jets than Russia and China combined! The USA has over 500 air refueling planes, China has 20 AWACS’s and the USA has over 40. The USA has 5,000 nukes, China has 500. The USA has 7 carriers China has 2 small ones. It’s a stark difference guys
From the World Population Review website: "The United States has ten cities with over 1 million people and an additional 27 with over 500,000 people. There are 317 U.S. cities with populations over 100,000." The Chinese stockpile clocking 500 nukes is not a coincidence. Conventional war between nuclear states is a thing of the past, so numbers beyond those matter little.
@ I agree, WW3 will go nuclear quickly. But again the usa has China outmatched in nukes. 500 nukes is not near enough. The USA has 1,000 military bases. Not to mention all the other targets. In a real WW3 Russia is more scary to me.
The foundations of war are constituted by desires
The reverberating is from ground up not down.
That may come from the MayFlower?
technically, the US surpassed Britain the 1880s yes. However, it didn't surpass the British empire until Britain started giving independence to these countries.
Britain had no choice. It wasn't strong enough to keep those colonies. They didn't give it away out of goodwill
@@dailyrant4068 what do you mean it wasn't strong enough? The financial strain was of course there after WW2, but the empire still would have survived.
The issue was the US and Soviet union that were allies with the UK supported de-colonization of countries like India. In addition, many countries wanted their own independence. Due to the formation of NATO and the UN, this prompted UK to give up these lands. More and more countries since India have got independence out of the UKs efforts, for moral basis, to give back.
@ I disagree that anything UK has ever done was based on moral ground. I’m not singling out UK, any country in civilization history does.
Did you forget Ghandi was jailed? To say Uk supported decolonization is a stretch
@ ok, well your bias prevents the conversation continuing.
By the way, Britain paved the way for ending slavery and fought against other powers to protect that freedom of others.
@@Deomnibusdubitandum274 right because you are not white washing it at all. Nowhere have I stated hatred like “Britain is evil” or “Britain shouldn’t have existed” type of thing. You are imagining things and actually the one projecting because you are the biased one. I simply stated universally no countries have really acted for greater good and simply out of self interest. I fully recognize that’s my opinion, unlike you who thinks your bias is factual
With only 7.5% of American exports going to china and a growing trade deficit, whose economy relies on the other?
I love elon for being excessable to anyone
You mean "accessible"
ELON MUSK
Twice our size but stronger , no.
The US is eroding from within as we speak. You don't even have to go as far to China to see how other countries are flourishing. I went to Mexico and the amount of construction and expansion is insane, they are literally building entire cities as a single project. We are no longer the greatest Country on the planet especially in innovation and infrastructure. Just pick a country and go visit and you will soon realize we are decades behind many once poor nations in terms of progress and it's our own government that sold the country out for profits. Low cost education and Healthcare is the bedrock of prosperity. We have world class education but it's the rest of the world that takes advantage of it in all the right fields because most families can't afford $300k to send their kids to medical School or to get an engineering degree. How can we play the game if we aren't even on the field.
On the p.o.w. test who here is choosing the CCP?
Alright folks! Not surprising but disappointing that Elon doesn't actually understand the relationship between China and Taiwan but I'll address it here. You can't "reunite" something that was never united in the first place. The PRC🇨🇳 has NEVER governed Taiwan and its islands in ANY century, decade, year, month, week, day, hour, minute, or second in history. More/most importantly, they DO NOT have the permission or CONSENT of the people. As a self proclaimed lover of the USA🇺🇸 I'm sure if a foreign regime that had NEVER held USA🇺🇸 territory before and DO NOT have the CONSENT of the people, Elon would fight against it. It was the PRC that declared independence from OUR government, NOT the other way around, and now they won't respect the independence of other people, who have ALWAYS been independent from them. Now they want to expand their territory and conquer lands and people they've never governed before, against their will.
So no, it's NOT like Hawaii or Puerto Rico, because Hawaii and Puerto Rico are ACTUALLY a part of the USA 🇺🇸 . It was NOT the USA 🇺🇸 that "stopped peaceful reunification" , it's that the PRC 🇨🇳 want to conquer lands and people AGAINST THEIR WILL. You can't have "peaceful" annexation when one side doesn't want to be annexed into a immoral, incompetent regime; that's like saying if a Chinese guy can't accept that the Taiwanese woman JUST doesn't want to sleep with them, and if the American guy tells the Chinese guy not to rape her, then that's "getting in the way of my attempts to 'peacefully' have sex with her". 🤦♂ In fact, it was the naïve hope of the US that over time the PRC 🇨🇳 would democratize or at least liberalize and that the people in Taiwan would then be more open to having closer ties with them and maybe resolve their differences diplomatically. But as we know, the PRC 🇨🇳 DIDN'T in fact democratize or liberalize. EVEN IF they did, would the Americans today be open to being forcibly annexed by the UK, or Canada, given that the UK and Canada aren't nearly as bad as the PRC 🇨🇳? Come on! We'll give you free healthcare! They both speak English, just peacefully reunite with the UK! Screw your already existent independence! In 1979, the US wrote "the United States decision to establish diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China rests upon the expectation that the future of Taiwan will be determined by peaceful means;" basically that whatever happens and differences between the people on both sides that it is done non violently and not against the will, consent, and permission of the people.