@@brianedwards7142 They have different etymological origins. Barbarians is an onomatopoeia of Greek origin. Barba means beard in Latin, the ancient greek word for it is γένειον (geneion).
The Iroquois really just played the "bro idk people just migrated millions of miles apart from each other and their languages just changed differently because of distance" card
Most of the nations that made up the Iroquois Federation spoke related languages. That prolly pointed them toward the conclusion that they branched out from a common ancestor
Don't forget about the Lang Witch, who game humans speech so they could praise her for her gift. But the selfish humans wouldn't sing her praises, so the Lang Witch cursed their speech so that they couldn't understand each other
The amazing coincidence of describing the cannibal languages story as "Barbaric" in the same video where you explain "barbaric" means "speaking a language other than Greek" completely recontextualizes it.
@@danf7411 racism comes from being barbarian that from differences between two peoples having something that they don't have so called "society" or "civilization"
Personally I believe that so many stories are universally known because humans have travelled for millennia. Religion as we know it began at least 15,000 years ago! People travelled and shared.
That's the scientific consensus. The flood stories might have more than one origin, but all the cultures talking about towers were connected, at least indirectly.
In Finnic mythology, there is no mythology about the origin of Balto-Finnic languages and there is no Finnic mythology that explains why people speak different languages. In Finnic mythology and folklore, people can easily talk to each other and understand each other without language barriers and regardless of where they are from. That's why it would be interesting to know how common mythospheres are, which lack or ignore the fact that there are different languages?
I would imagine it could be that Finnish Mythology was relatively lately attested and recorded and thus many myths are simply lost to time as is the case with Norse, Irish and Slavic mythology.
@@baum7275 Maybe, there is a myth about an oak tree that grew too big and had to be cut down just so the Sun and the Moon could shine again. Or the Sampo. Or maybe The Finnic didn't need a myth. It just happened that people fought each other and didn't want the others know their battle plans, if one group didn't just up and leave. You fight over it, it breaks.
The Iroquois myth was spot on as far as the people spreading far away so they started speaking differently. The tower of Babel is dumb. Humans have no problem building things without speaking the same language.it happens daily.
Hey man, look at this tower we're building. You know, one of these days we're gonna reach heave- ...paradis. Quoi? Que se passe-t-il? Oh mon dieu, il m'a rendu FRANÇAIS. Non! Non! Tout sauf FRANÇAIS !
Hey, what the hell are you saying? Have you gone loco, mi amigo? Ich kann nicht verstehen cosa dici! В чем дело? 妈的！हम क्या करने जा रहे है? 誰も理解できない 우리는 어떻게 천국에 갈 수 있습니까? Αν δεν μπορούμε να μιλήσουμε ο ένας στον άλλον….Putangina (Edit: Had to remove the arabic one because it ruined the read more button 💀)
When you talked about the Norse, you forgot to mention how they got their runes. According to oral tradition which was recorded in the poetic Edda, Odin hung himself on the tree of the world with a spear stuck in his side for 9 days and 9 nights. This is the way that the Norse traditionally made sacrifices to Odin. So, after sacrificing himself to himself, Odin saw a vision of the Runes, which he then taught to the Norse.
Animals definitely communicate within their own species, and I maintain that they have unique languages that humans could at least partially understand, if we're willing to sacrifice the time and attention necessary. I've actually had full conversations with my cat, or with my parents' dog, or with other creatures that I associate with, though I couldn't say what was discussed even half a second after the exchange is over. So, while everything else you said is accurate, perhaps "speech" is a more accurate word than "language" regarding certain concepts.
@@0011peace I was aware of that-- cool to see that you are too. Yeh, my cats are fine meowing with me, and I see that sometimes they're frustrated with my accent and limited vocabulary, though I seem to gravitate toward Siamese and other talkative breeds.
Whenever I get high I always think about how we talk and how crazy it is that we make sounds that we just understand and how other sounds mean other languages
'Ra'- Is the oldest known God in recorded African civilization, He was the Sun God of Kemet(Ancient Egypt). 'Gye Nyame' means 'Only God' in Ashanti Twi language.
@@PCGameNerd917 hmm. With the position I'm in if you really knew me you'd kind of expect it of me. Same for my counter parts from other countries. It's only pride, nothing to be ashamed of as long as you are not ANTI someone else's culture then you're a fascist.
I like to think language evolved the same way as we did. Let’s take a zebra and a mule, they might not be able to breed successfully now but they were able to just a couple generations ago. Now let’s take German and Dutch for example. Nowadays they are two different languages, but go back several generations and the languages seem even more similar and in fact had a common ancestor just like that of the zebra and mule. Now of course there are instances of loan words, but nature has a counterpart to that as well; linear evolution for example, where two completely different species use the same body types, like a dolphin and a shark. TL,DR: Darwin might as well have been a linguist
I would encourage you to look at the work of Nathaniel Jeanson and his book Traced. This is not to make you change your mind, but I think that you would find it interesting.
"We just can't explain how flood and language diversification myths from literal opposite parts of the world could possibly be so similar." Other than, you know, the obvious answer that they just might possibly may be TRUE??
@@junjunjamore7735 that's way before colonialism. But travelers have always existed, and stories made their way across culture. On the other hand, flood did cause death and mass migrations through out the times and inspired similar stories.
@@tonymouannes THAT similar? The Hawaiian flood legend is nearly identical to the biblical account, and has always been so. Even the name of the boat builder is strikingly similar: Nu'u.
I keep debating the origin of Odin. Check it out. Odin in Old German was Wodanaz. Comparison using Eosphorus (Greek) to Auzandil (Gothic). One can see the S change to a Z, and the R changes to a D. This same change is found in another Greek name Ouranos (Uranus in latin), to Wodanaz. Tyr/Tiw is cognate to Zeus, this is known. I propose that Ouranos, is Wodanaz. Both are associated with a flood of sorts via mutilation. Ouranos being castrated and Aphrodite formed from the sea foam from his castrated member. While Odin dismembers Ymir and causes a flood. Interestingly, Iapetus the Titan son of Uranus is linked with Japheth from the Bible. Making Odin/ Uranus, Noah. Another figure connected to a flood myth. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus Iapetus was linked to Japheth (יֶפֶת) one of the sons of Noah and a progenitor of mankind in biblical accounts.
The Bible specifically says, "God is not a man". What you probably mean is that God takes masculine pronouns. There is a specific theological reason for this which should be respected.
It's both disrespectful and theologically incorrect. At least in Christianity, there is a specific reason why God is referred to as "Father", not "Parent".
The Bible does it. So you should be annoyed at the Bible Gen. 1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness..." Gen. 11:7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech." Gen. 3:22 "22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us..." Isa. 6:8 "Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: " Whom shall I send, And who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I! Send me."
@@0011peace ‘our’ is not them you had to cherrypick verses without putting them in context but there are too many verses where the bible refers to God as he to list
@@gangiskhan6948 Most scholars say those the cherry picked wrongly translated ones. Specially if you believe in the trinity. And, I was getting the use not the accuracy.
He's not insecure because humans built Babel Tower. He confused humanity's languages to keep them away from making a dimensional rift to His home. Who would want a prideful intruder walking inside their property? If it wasn't for the tongue confusion, linguists would cease to exist, the cultures in every corner of human civilization we know as well. If you truly understood the scripture, this God helped disperse humanity to fulfill their purpose as a species. Humans are growing arrogant in that time and refused to settle on other regions.
What’s sad is that there are still billions of people today who believe these ancient myths to be true. Even when we no longer need mythological beings to explain illness, weather, natural disasters, etc., so many unintelligent people still think there are invisible magic old men in the sky who can read your thoughts. Imagine how much further advanced we’d be as a species if we had abandoned this idiotic thinking thousands of years ago.
I agree, we currently don't need mythological being to explain things we don't understand science already done it for us. However, In my opinion the problem with myth isn't myth itself but rather people who take it too seriously. People can have faith in anything but should do in moderation and understand difference between them and others. For me, I don't know if God really exist or not. Maybe he did, Maybe he didn't but what's sure is that we don't have any proof and things that can't be proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So my faith in myth is 50/50 for me.✌
@@0011peace Yeah, too nihilism make our heart hollow and too much faith can lead to ignorance thus make our heart blind. What I was suggested in my comment is that we should have faith while not being ignorance. Moreover, we should be considerate about others belief because we had the right to have faith to belief in something and so did they.
What is your favourite mythical origin of language?
Babel has nothing to do with the Greek language. It's the ancient Hebrew translitaration of the Akkadian word for the city of Babylon.
What about the supposed link between barbarians and barba meaning beard.
@@brianedwards7142 They have different etymological origins.
Barbarians is an onomatopoeia of Greek origin.
Barba means beard in Latin, the ancient greek word for it is γένειον (geneion).
The Jewish mythology of tower of Babel
@@sapa1895 Gotcha, thanks. Think I got some folk etymology somewhere then. Worse, I think I've spread it on occasion .😞
The Iroquois really just played the "bro idk people just migrated millions of miles apart from each other and their languages just changed differently because of distance" card
Sounds believable
That's actually the most realistic one lmao
@@duckpotat9818
“Shit just goes wack dude I don’t know what to tell you… mostly because I don’t speak your langua-“
Smart people
Most of the nations that made up the Iroquois Federation spoke related languages. That prolly pointed them toward the conclusion that they branched out from a common ancestor
Don't forget about the Lang Witch, who game humans speech so they could praise her for her gift. But the selfish humans wouldn't sing her praises, so the Lang Witch cursed their speech so that they couldn't understand each other
The amazing coincidence of describing the cannibal languages story as "Barbaric" in the same video where you explain "barbaric" means "speaking a language other than Greek" completely recontextualizes it.
they were pretty racist and I shows in the reason it is called "barbaric" they mocjed their speech by saying bar bar bar or similar onomatopoeia
@@jenodreams racism is a modern invention
It's changed meaning since then.
@@danf7411
racism comes from being barbarian that from differences between two peoples having something that they don't have so called "society" or "civilization"
@@danf7411 What?
Personally I believe that so many stories are universally known because humans have travelled for millennia. Religion as we know it began at least 15,000 years ago! People travelled and shared.
That's the scientific consensus. The flood stories might have more than one origin, but all the cultures talking about towers were connected, at least indirectly.
Research Chaoskampf, your going to find it extremely interesting.
In Finnic mythology, there is no mythology about the origin of Balto-Finnic languages and there is no Finnic mythology that explains why people speak different languages. In Finnic mythology and folklore, people can easily talk to each other and understand each other without language barriers and regardless of where they are from. That's why it would be interesting to know how common mythospheres are, which lack or ignore the fact that there are different languages?
I would imagine it could be that Finnish Mythology was relatively lately attested and recorded and thus many myths are simply lost to time as is the case with Norse, Irish and Slavic mythology.
@@baum7275 Maybe, there is a myth about an oak tree that grew too big and had to be cut down just so the Sun and the Moon could shine again. Or the Sampo. Or maybe The Finnic didn't need a myth. It just happened that people fought each other and didn't want the others know their battle plans, if one group didn't just up and leave. You fight over it, it breaks.
Informative! I learned something from this one. 😉👏👏👏
Thanks for posting!
"Yeah I'm not drawing that"
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The Iroquois myth was spot on as far as the people spreading far away so they started speaking differently. The tower of Babel is dumb. Humans have no problem building things without speaking the same language.it happens daily.
Hey man, look at this tower we're building. You know, one of these days we're gonna reach heave-
...paradis. Quoi? Que se passe-t-il? Oh mon dieu, il m'a rendu FRANÇAIS. Non! Non! Tout sauf FRANÇAIS !
*ciel
The french word for heaven is "ciel", not "paradis"... that's the name of the garden...
I mean, French is the main reason English spelling is all over the place.
Hey, what the hell are you saying? Have you gone loco, mi amigo? Ich kann nicht verstehen cosa dici! В чем дело? 妈的！हम क्या करने जा रहे है? 誰も理解できない 우리는 어떻게 천국에 갈 수 있습니까? Αν δεν μπορούμε να μιλήσουμε ο ένας στον άλλον….Putangina
(Edit: Had to remove the arabic one because it ruined the read more button 💀)
When you talked about the Norse, you forgot to mention how they got their runes.
According to oral tradition which was recorded in the poetic Edda, Odin hung himself on the tree of the world with a spear stuck in his side for 9 days and 9 nights. This is the way that the Norse traditionally made sacrifices to Odin.
So, after sacrificing himself to himself, Odin saw a vision of the Runes, which he then taught to the Norse.
Remember every mythology has truth, but also fantasy in itself.
Including Christianity.
@@HopeRock425 Including Modernity
it's interesting how spot on the Kaska myth is, like, that's literally how different languages form
Really thought that you were going in the direction of the rabbit duck illusion there for a while.
Animals definitely communicate within their own species, and I maintain that they have unique languages that humans could at least partially understand, if we're willing to sacrifice the time and attention necessary. I've actually had full conversations with my cat, or with my parents' dog, or with other creatures that I associate with, though I couldn't say what was discussed even half a second after the exchange is over. So, while everything else you said is accurate, perhaps "speech" is a more accurate word than "language" regarding certain concepts.
Did you know that feral/wild cats don't meow to other cats other than kittens and domestic ones meow to humans.
@@0011peace I was aware of that-- cool to see that you are too. Yeh, my cats are fine meowing with me, and I see that sometimes they're frustrated with my accent and limited vocabulary, though I seem to gravitate toward Siamese and other talkative breeds.
@@wendychavez5348
When I talk to my cat she often ignores me but when 8 mew like a cat she always pays attention.
6:13 LMAO, that was a great joke, not gonna lie
Whenever I get high I always think about how we talk and how crazy it is that we make sounds that we just understand and how other sounds mean other languages
The Bantu myth sounds like it might have been some ancestral folk story remembered from pre-homo sapien times
It's a Wasari myth, not a Bantu myth as "Bantu" is a language group rather than anything else. Us in South Africa do not have language myths
@@siyabongamviko8872 my mistake
i prefer this languages are english 🇺🇲 español🇪🇸 française 🇫🇷 português🇧🇷 italiano🇮🇹 and little esperanto else
"Howeveeer"
"Languageeesss"
"Everrrr"
"Figure ouuuuttt"
"Each otherrrr"
"Birrrddd"
Whyyyy do youuu talk like thiiiis?
'Ra'- Is the oldest known God in recorded African civilization, He was the Sun God of Kemet(Ancient Egypt). 'Gye Nyame' means 'Only God' in Ashanti Twi language.
You are drunk on afroacentrism.
@@PCGameNerd917 hmm. With the position I'm in if you really knew me you'd kind of expect it of me. Same for my counter parts from other countries. It's only pride, nothing to be ashamed of as long as you are not ANTI someone else's culture then you're a fascist.
I like to think language evolved the same way as we did. Let’s take a zebra and a mule, they might not be able to breed successfully now but they were able to just a couple generations ago. Now let’s take German and Dutch for example. Nowadays they are two different languages, but go back several generations and the languages seem even more similar and in fact had a common ancestor just like that of the zebra and mule. Now of course there are instances of loan words, but nature has a counterpart to that as well; linear evolution for example, where two completely different species use the same body types, like a dolphin and a shark. TL,DR: Darwin might as well have been a linguist
Written geek hasn't changed in much in thousabds of years
Cannibalism, the tastes of home.
Savage bruh bruh bruh sound
jesus christ the vocal fry at then end of all these sentenceees
A surprisingly amount of separate people building towers to heaven..
1:25 skip the human centric opening
B i r d l e t t e r
Yes
I would encourage you to look at the work of Nathaniel Jeanson and his book Traced. This is not to make you change your mind, but I think that you would find it interesting.
I don't see anything interesting about books from creationists
@@kaengurus.sind.genossen That is okay. You don't have too. It was just a recommendation. Have a great day!
"We just can't explain how flood and language diversification myths from literal opposite parts of the world could possibly be so similar."
Other than, you know, the obvious answer that they just might possibly may be TRUE??
Here I was thinking colonialism.
@@junjunjamore7735 that's way before colonialism. But travelers have always existed, and stories made their way across culture. On the other hand, flood did cause death and mass migrations through out the times and inspired similar stories.
@@junjunjamore7735 Oh, these legends WAAAAAAAAAAY predate colonialism by anyone who WASN'T Polynesian.
@@tonymouannes THAT similar? The Hawaiian flood legend is nearly identical to the biblical account, and has always been so. Even the name of the boat builder is strikingly similar: Nu'u.
@@AtarahDerek that means that the story traveled there with someone. The name might be thousands of years older than the bible.
2:24
You are so funny. That is the complete opposite of how the biblical story really was
BRUH-BRUH-BRUH 👺
After* not Ohrfter
Three* not Free
Thrive* not Frive
Odin* not Ouwden
Referring to God with they/them pronouns while talking about Babel is accurate and appreciated
The Wurruri story sounds like Attack on Titan but with anti-Ymir propaganda cranked up to 100😂
Clearly, languages were invented by the all powerful Owl God Duo
Graphs* not Grohrphs
Very Chobblesome.
Wurruri* not Worrori
Languageeeesss........
Asked* not Ohrsked
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Kilian experience "God created languages so they couldn't understand each other"
several animals have language. there's evidence that dolphins have 3D language
Mungu ni Mfalme.
I keep debating the origin of Odin. Check it out. Odin in Old German was Wodanaz.
Comparison using Eosphorus (Greek) to Auzandil (Gothic). One can see the S change to a Z, and the R changes to a D. This same change is found in another Greek name Ouranos (Uranus in latin), to Wodanaz.
Tyr/Tiw is cognate to Zeus, this is known.
I propose that Ouranos, is Wodanaz. Both are associated with a flood of sorts via mutilation. Ouranos being castrated and Aphrodite formed from the sea foam from his castrated member. While Odin dismembers Ymir and causes a flood.
Interestingly, Iapetus the Titan son of Uranus is linked with Japheth from the Bible. Making Odin/ Uranus, Noah. Another figure connected to a flood myth.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iapetus
Iapetus was linked to Japheth (יֶפֶת) one of the sons of Noah and a progenitor of mankind in biblical accounts.
Not a myth
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God is a man
Either one is man or god
The Bible specifically says, "God is not a man". What you probably mean is that God takes masculine pronouns. There is a specific theological reason for this which should be respected.
አንድነት ጠንካራ ነው። መከፋፈል ድክመት ነው።
What script is that?
@@thanosal-titan Abyssinian Amharic
@@thanosal-titan "Unity is strong. Division is weakness."
@@camelopardalis84
Do you think my UA-cam app does not have translate feature?
@@thanosal-titan Some people are not aware of it. Are you seriously pissed off or something that I provided you with information you didn't need?
Referring to God with the pronoun ‘them’ is really annoying me.
It's both disrespectful and theologically incorrect. At least in Christianity, there is a specific reason why God is referred to as "Father", not "Parent".
The Bible does it. So you should be annoyed at the Bible
Gen. 1:26 "Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness..."
Gen. 11:7 "Come, let Us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech."
Gen. 3:22 "22 Then the LORD God said, "Behold, the man has become like one of Us..."
Isa. 6:8 "Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying: " Whom shall I send, And who will go for Us?" Then I said, "Here am I! Send me."
@@0011peace ‘our’ is not them you had to cherrypick verses without putting them in context but there are too many verses where the bible refers to God as he to list
@@gangiskhan6948
Most scholars say those the cherry picked wrongly translated ones. Specially if you believe in the trinity. And, I was getting the use not the accuracy.
Sorry but this God you speak of, seems awfully insecure.
He's not insecure because humans built Babel Tower. He confused humanity's languages to keep them away from making a dimensional rift to His home. Who would want a prideful intruder walking inside their property? If it wasn't for the tongue confusion, linguists would cease to exist, the cultures in every corner of human civilization we know as well. If you truly understood the scripture, this God helped disperse humanity to fulfill their purpose as a species. Humans are growing arrogant in that time and refused to settle on other regions.
He's described as doing and saying really insecure things.
Yeah. Well, one of its commandments is also that you shouldn't believe in other gods. So, yes, quite insecure.
@@Carewolf 😆
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What’s sad is that there are still billions of people today who believe these ancient myths to be true. Even when we no longer need mythological beings to explain illness, weather, natural disasters, etc., so many unintelligent people still think there are invisible magic old men in the sky who can read your thoughts. Imagine how much further advanced we’d be as a species if we had abandoned this idiotic thinking thousands of years ago.
I agree, we currently don't need mythological being to explain things we don't understand science already done it for us. However, In my opinion the problem with myth isn't myth itself but rather people who take it too seriously. People can have faith in anything but should do in moderation and understand difference between them and others. For me, I don't know if God really exist or not. Maybe he did, Maybe he didn't but what's sure is that we don't have any proof and things that can't be proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. So my faith in myth is 50/50 for me.✌
@@oblivionboss13055 Everyone had faith. If you didn't you would be insane.
@@0011peace Yeah, too nihilism make our heart hollow and too much faith can lead to ignorance thus make our heart blind. What I was suggested in my comment is that we should have faith while not being ignorance. Moreover, we should be considerate about others belief because we had the right to have faith to belief in something and so did they.
Gye Nyame Ye Ohene
What language is that?
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله.
Chanting* not Chonting
Language* not Languadge
After* not Ohrfter
Advancements* not Advoncements