I love Zenith. I work for a Swiss company and interact with many Swiss suppliers who have feet in both the medical and watch component manufacturing worlds. I have been in multiple shops where I have seen a host of El Primero components being produced as well as subassemblies being completed. On my office wall is a Crokinole board (game out of Canada, look it up). It is about 75 cm in dia with the image of an El Primero Defy movement in its center measuring 61 cm across. Next year I will hit 25 years with my company and we still do a watch for that anniversary. You get a budget and can add to it as you wish. I will be getting an El Primero as it is my favorite watch. Technology, craftmanship, and history are standouts for me.
Zenith is quickly becoming one of my favorite brands. The through line from '69 to Charles Vermot "defy"ing his bosses to save the El Primero machinery and blueprints in an attic is the kind of heritage we watch nerds should appreciate more. Wearing my Charles Vermot Chronomaster tribute as I write lol
I love your videos. I always frequently watch a video from you before picking a watch. I also love Zenith. Own a doublematic and El Primero sport with the brushed Grey dial.
One of my best friends got a skeleton Defy Zenith and I'm super jealous for him. Because his was free, gifted by Zenith. There are many brands that will give influencers watches, but to be given a GREAT watch... wow that takes the cherry.
I am a huge Zenith fan. Chronomaster triple date was good as PP 10 times more expensive chronograph but Zenith is unlucky. First name problems then other problems. Still can't find it's niche and it is might be too late.
Ive always loved the defy line. Wish i had managed to get one of the original night surfer releases! I hope to get a new skeleton skyline at some point in the future. The hard part is the price.
I just bought Defy 21 El Primero Panda and it's one of the best integrated bracelet chronos for the money. PPL are sleeping on defy line, but that's probably due to the fact not everyone is into skeleton dials.
Disagree, the Skyline is a mistake....losing the date complication was stupid, and the 1/10 second subdial is utterly useless. The Classic is a far better effort.
Can I reiterate that these videos are even better now that we do not just have the watch and talking hands?! Face = humanity. You are more than an awesome watch guy with talking hands.
What do I think... well, the Defy story is the reason why Zenith didn't became the biggest and best manufacturer in the world. They had it all, heritage, quality, skills, ingenuity, audacity and will. Everything but management capabilities.
I preferred the voice-over only videos; I'm not sure why it's always face-to-camera these past few months. It creates an impression that it's less about the watches, and more about the personality
None will understand how much I hate those watch manufacturer catalogue sites full of computer generated graphics instead of real product pictures. ZENITH - I couldn't find a single image of a product. Awful.
The only Zenith that was pleasing to look at over the past decades is the Zenith Academy Georges Favre-Jacot. Most of their current models are either dull or vulgar.
The Defy Night Surfer you are exhibiting is rare and highly sought as it’s the most legible Zenith Defy Classic skeleton with its contrasting blue dial. Yeah, I hate you, with envy.
Zenith were a world leader until the 1970s. Since their revival in the 1990s they have failed to produce classics like they did in the 20th. century. Their watches are overworked, overcomplicated, blinged up and overpriced. They should have realised that 'less is more'.
Actually the most hated watch ever was the "Paul Newman" dial Daytona. I know this because Bucherers practically gave me one back when you could buy them new. I think I paid $200 for it and the Swiss salesman almost hugged me (which is far out of the ballpark for the Swiss). Odd now that sites like this would likely drool over it. I went back a few years later and bought the second "most hated watch", the REF6263 Daytona, and paid $300 for it. So, I'd say to take this sort of thing as a grain of salt.
I love the older Zeniths and the new Defy Skylines. The Defy 21 is great, even with it's poorly designed clasp; but I'm not a fan of where they are heading with the ugly extreme versions - may as well buy a Hublot.
I love Zenith. I work for a Swiss company and interact with many Swiss suppliers who have feet in both the medical and watch component manufacturing worlds. I have been in multiple shops where I have seen a host of El Primero components being produced as well as subassemblies being completed. On my office wall is a Crokinole board (game out of Canada, look it up). It is about 75 cm in dia with the image of an El Primero Defy movement in its center measuring 61 cm across. Next year I will hit 25 years with my company and we still do a watch for that anniversary. You get a budget and can add to it as you wish. I will be getting an El Primero as it is my favorite watch. Technology, craftmanship, and history are standouts for me.
Whats the budget range?
Zenith is quickly becoming one of my favorite brands. The through line from '69 to Charles Vermot "defy"ing his bosses to save the El Primero machinery and blueprints in an attic is the kind of heritage we watch nerds should appreciate more. Wearing my Charles Vermot Chronomaster tribute as I write lol
Zenith will always be my favorite brand. Love damn near everything they make.
I got a Ulysse Nardin ad before the video started and thought it was the titular “most hated watch ever.”
Close enough
Anything by Hublot.
My favourite watch brand. They are willing to try things and go against the grain. This model may not be for me, but I'm glad it exists.
Not my favorite, but definitely not the most hated watch ever made. That would probably be any model of Daniel Wellington.
The Zenith Defy El Primero 21 is my grail chronograph.
For some reason the automatic CC subtitles just wrote "odmar P gay" and I had to share it here. AP will never be the same again.
10 second dial gives me anxiety.
Love zenith, massively under appreciated brand who are making some cracking watches of late.
I love your videos. I always frequently watch a video from you before picking a watch. I also love Zenith. Own a doublematic and El Primero sport with the brushed Grey dial.
One of my best friends got a skeleton Defy Zenith and I'm super jealous for him. Because his was free, gifted by Zenith. There are many brands that will give influencers watches, but to be given a GREAT watch... wow that takes the cherry.
I recently purchased one and love it!
I am a huge Zenith fan. Chronomaster triple date was good as PP 10 times more expensive chronograph but Zenith is unlucky. First name problems then other problems. Still can't find it's niche and it is might be too late.
Ive always loved the defy line. Wish i had managed to get one of the original night surfer releases! I hope to get a new skeleton skyline at some point in the future. The hard part is the price.
20% off currently at WOS
Hated??? Is that a click bait? Not for me. In fact I own two of them and plan on getting a third one.
the 10sec-hand makes me feel stressed just by watching this video 🤯 5Hz and 60sec-hand would be much smoother 😉
I just bought Defy 21 El Primero Panda and it's one of the best integrated bracelet chronos for the money. PPL are sleeping on defy line, but that's probably due to the fact not everyone is into skeleton dials.
Whoop! Love these videos from Andrew. They are the best out there ❤
8:35 Am. (Pacific), handsome bracelet, I do agree. Enjoyed the video, thanks
Hey! This felt like the good old videos, nice little adjustments
Most watchmakers seem to dislike the Elmprimero movement, it’s a right pain in the arse to work with.
I have to say , I like it , I want one , if I had the money I would get one , thanks for showing it , peace ✌️
Likewise.
I wish l could like it but that tenth of a second indicator just seems like a bizarre gimmick.
What is the name of the music playing in the background? Anyone please.
Disagree, the Skyline is a mistake....losing the date complication was stupid, and the 1/10 second subdial is utterly useless. The Classic is a far better effort.
I have 20 vintage and 3 modern Zeniths, and I love them.
I like the defy classic but I do not like the skeletonized version at all. If givin to me free, I'd sell it asap
I loved my Port Royal Open Concept, in Ti.
Can I reiterate that these videos are even better now that we do not just have the watch and talking hands?!
Face = humanity. You are more than an awesome watch guy with talking hands.
I prefer the classic WF vids...go on, watch one back. The iconic music & voice was just a superior experience imho.
Does this video mean you like the defy or not? Can’t quite capture the message. I find the 2023 watch beautiful.
What do I think... well, the Defy story is the reason why Zenith didn't became the biggest and best manufacturer in the world. They had it all, heritage, quality, skills, ingenuity, audacity and will. Everything but management capabilities.
I have a defy classic skeleton, and have been in search of the original night surfer for some time. That being said, I do not like the new one at all.
Click-bait much?
At least show what watches you are taking about so people can decide what they want to watch or not…..
Honestly I don't like the Defy lineup.
On the other hand I'd buy the Chronomaster Revival A384 in a heartbit!
I agree.
Love the Defy Night Surfer edition of this watch.
Time PLUS Tide??? Wtf? Andrew messin with Andrew?!
That’s how we write it on our logo, I think he’s helping people find us 🥰
It’s obviously the Big Bang not the Defy
It's weird, no doubt. However, I see your claim, and raise you the possibility of the Hublout Big Bang.
I preferred the voice-over only videos; I'm not sure why it's always face-to-camera these past few months. It creates an impression that it's less about the watches, and more about the personality
Honestly, was expecting a Ooblo here
Misleading title. He didn't mention an Invicta once.
Love love the history you provide!
The watch looks kinda INTERESTING to me😅😅
None will understand how much I hate those watch manufacturer catalogue sites full of computer generated graphics instead of real product pictures. ZENITH - I couldn't find a single image of a product. Awful.
Looks like a new FIFA soccer ball for the next World Cup. Just...why?
The only Zenith that was pleasing to look at over the past decades is the Zenith Academy Georges Favre-Jacot. Most of their current models are either dull or vulgar.
That is the only Zenith in my collection because I totally agree!
Old style video 👏
The older format worked better, imo.
The Defy Night Surfer you are exhibiting is rare and highly sought as it’s the most legible Zenith Defy Classic skeleton with its contrasting blue dial. Yeah, I hate you, with envy.
Gotta be a hublot
Oh, come on.... Nobody can beat Hublot in the hate competition. :)
That 10 sec dial is utterly useless
Yes. It’s only function is to show that 1) you have an el primero movement with 36,000vph and 2) that the watch actually works
Take a deep breath and count to 10
It is. But it’s cool tho
You miss the point.
So are watches, whats your point?
Funny looking Hoblot
Huh.. and here I thought the most hated watch ever was the Ginault Ocean Rover.
Yuk! Quite correctly too.
I expect to see the something called classic fusion =DDD
OMG this 2010 Defy Extreme really is hiddeous...😳
Is it more hated than Hublot?
That’s not a Hublot!
I think that looks interesting.
Blue ceramic that’s the one ☝️
There's no accounting for taste Andrew....judging by the comments
Zenith were a world leader until the 1970s. Since their revival in the 1990s they have failed to produce classics like they did in the 20th. century. Their watches are overworked, overcomplicated, blinged up and overpriced. They should have realised that 'less is more'.
Beautiful
Everyone knows HUBLOT Blows
thought this was a hublot video
Most hated watch ever? Really?? I doubt it
HOW MUCH!!!!!!!!! You've got to be jokin.
Click bait?
Most hated? Utter tosh!
Never cared for Zenith tbh.
More hated than Hamilton?
Actually the most hated watch ever was the "Paul Newman" dial Daytona. I know this because Bucherers practically gave me one back when you could buy them new. I think I paid $200 for it and the Swiss salesman almost hugged me (which is far out of the ballpark for the Swiss). Odd now that sites like this would likely drool over it. I went back a few years later and bought the second "most hated watch", the REF6263 Daytona, and paid $300 for it. So, I'd say to take this sort of thing as a grain of salt.
The stars on it look shit
Successs.
I love the older Zeniths and the new Defy Skylines. The Defy 21 is great, even with it's poorly designed clasp; but I'm not a fan of where they are heading with the ugly extreme versions - may as well buy a Hublot.
That is one ugly watch.
Not Invicta?
cualquier invicta (exepto los pro diver) tiene mas odio acumulado por la comunidad
Zenith make second hands for Sugess? 😂
Like the watch, hate the video
Me like
There is plenty of women that could make use of this 10 second timer for there partners. 😂
I think that watch looks pretty good
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