This is actually another message for the wall. The initial message of the poem is that the walls represent a relationship and how boundaries are important in any and all relationships, and we should respect each other because of those walls. Another meaning is a bit darker and it involves in quite a literal sense, young people in society and old people in society. "Mending a wall." What does that "wall"....stand for, it stands for laws, prejudice, sexism and racism and how the wall is mended...by the quote "good fences..make good neighbors," and how it is, by thy quote "his father's saying," mending the wall is quite literally meaning to mend the laws/ideologies in the past, every year the wall comes down because...it's not supposed to be there, the individual stones stacked on top of each other, just like people..some stay, other collapse but it's the repetitive action of re-teaching the wrong aspects and ideas in life that is it "mending the wall," "mending" is positive, but once the metaphorical wall is seen as something else, something more sinister in the sense that it completely disregards relationships, races and communities, that even though the word "mending" has positive vibes...it's ultimately supporting something that is just...well frankly, not positive. And it's a really interesting dynamic because if we view this poem from the perspective that it IS about privacy and establishing good relationships with friends or in this case (your neighbors) the speaker is ultimately naive...he is questioning the need to repair this wall, this continued maintenance even though both of them know it's going to be destroyed anyways. The speaker, is....dumb..almost as like he doesn't see the point or even understand that the wall is symbolic of guide-lines in a relationship. On the other hand if we, as the reader read it from the more political side, it's more than obvious that the speaker, (who is a lot younger and more bares a more inquisitive nature) is questioning the need, for...not the wall...but instead the law. Why do we, as a society need these walls? It doesn't matter what color you are. Where you're from. How much money you have. What class of education you've gained. Why should these walls, (ironically) separate us? Instead of making us come together? And ultimately that's the key to the paradox, through the "process mending the wall" a process that's been done numerous times before, you can understand that, it's mending,,,the law, it's mending something that they should've left to crumble. We know this is the case because that's all the neighbor says, and he's been even described as he "moves in darkness" because he's trapped in..walls essentially, his life and all he's known is dependent on those walls, those walls have caused him to live in darkness, in unacceptable, in a ridiculous and, well.....A degenerate...."A savage" nothing more than a puppet, governed by these walls, therefore making the speaker ultimately and comparatively more enlighted, or "smart" if you will.
FreelosoFur wow great analysis. Do you have an email I can contact you by ? I really need help writing a essay on this. At this point, I’m willing to pay.
Wow, I think you explained better with typed words,than the video.I'm glad that I always read comments when I'm done with the videos. 😊 Good job, mate. 👍👍
My English teacher taught us the opposite interpretation of that poem, that the neighbour refuses to coincide with the narrator and is stuck in old traditions, unquestioning. I am extremely glad I found this as it shares my viewpoint that walls and boundaries are necessary in any relationship and having them is not a negative thing.
I had always imagined the narrator to be an enlightened man. The darkness does not represent fear but rather ignorance. The neighbor does not question his father's saying and walks like a stone age savage. I have enjoyed watching your videos, though!
The power of a poem, from my point of view, is that it spans time and distance. Its timeliness is timeless. It spans distance, it is meaningful near and far, my backyard to countries and cultures afar. It speaks concretely and metaphorically. A powerful literary form.
I don't agree with your interpretation that the narrator is deceitful - nor that the neighbor is "positive". Frost makes it clear that at the specific position at issue, a wall fulfills no useful purpose: "It comes to little more: There where it is we do not need the wall: He is all pine and I am apple orchard." The neighbor insists "Good fences make good neighbors" because his father told him so. That is, implicitly, an accusation of dishonesty towards the narrator, an accusation of envy and a desire to trespass and somehow harm the neighbor. The narrator points out the context of the proverb, that it relates to cows who, having no concept of property lines, may trespass unwittingly, but the neighbor insists on the proverb for no other reason than that his father taught it to him. He is stuck in his ways, blinkered, building walls for building walls' sake, rather than for them to fulfill a specific purpose. The narrator is not deceitful, he is just not confrontational and wants the neighbor to come to the proper conclusion himself. Quite obviously, the narrator isn't against walls per se - he's repairing them and on his own initiative, calls the neighbor so they can repair the fall from their respective sides. What the author IS against is building walls for their own sake even in locations where they fulfill no real purpose but to distance yourself from other people and cast suspicion on them.
You're mistaking the narrator with Frost. Frost said something to the effect that the more I say 'I' the less likely it is that he is talking about himself. The narrator doesn't want the wall. You are coming to the poem with your own ideas and putting them on Frost. Frost wrote many poems about what he believed were the importance of boundaries. His poetry, with rhyme and meter, was a "wall" that he himself often mentioned, in contrast to the free verse of his contemporaries.
Brilliant poem. Maybe my favorite when I was young and could quote it by heart. Today, one week after Trump took office, the poem occurred to me again. Eternally relevant. "Something there is that doesn't love a wall...,"
I mean, the wall kinda depicts a paradox, because they're essentially coming together to separate themselves, if he doesn't hate "him" he just finds the process of building the wall tedious and unnecessary :v The wall in this sense, is metaphorically the two's fight against the op powers of nature (in a sense) and is more of unity than it is...well...separation. Yeah I don't quite understand this poem either just yet, but I'm getting there .-.
To get the full analysis with much greater detail, go to the link in the description. Many details were left out of the video to keep its length reasonable.
@@xoaxdotnet replying on comments even after long time passed is just wooow. Thank you so much for the help I've another question plz Frost wrote this poem and published it in Boston UK or in Boston New england(US) ?
@@hassanezouicha8658 Frost was from New England (US). The poem was published in the volume of work entitled "North of Boston," meaning Boston, Mass. However, this volume was published originally by a London based company. Later, it was subsequently published by Holt (US), after Frost switched his publisher.
Please look at and review this poem consciously again. Your perspective of the narrator's negativity might just be misplaced! The overall message is not about the narrator's negativity, rather aspects of how boundaries create barriers that do not necessarily serve anyone. Certainly, one might see such an interpretation as the easy way of looking at the poem. Yet, interpretations into the poet's meaning can only be subjective. For this reader of the poem, it is clearly a statement on how built up walls are merely an act of perceived separation. Without conversing with the poet, any interpretation is only that, an interpretation.
My favourite poem. How many people have a favourite one? i do. Have a second favourite one aswell? Pertinent to todays topics.Who you walling in an walling out?Political.
Wow! I love this analysis. I checked out the website xoax.net and checked out your other UA-cam videos. Please let me know where I can find more material like this: either from you or by someone else. I am grateful for your work and your sharing.
This poem, like so many others, has been wrung out to the point of ad nauseam however why buck the trend? I disagree that the narrator doesn't want the wall. The title of poem itself is "Mending wall" and not "Mending the wall." A very slight difference, I recognize but this suggests to me that the wall has some useful purpose (providing appropriate boundaries and mending relationships). Also, while the narrator acts as a foil to the conventional wisdom of his neighbor (and the neighbor's father), in the end, the phrase is repeated: Good fences make good neighbors-to which the narrator doesn't argue. If the narrator hates walls so much, why does he bother to help reconstruct it? While the narrator isn't a big fan of walls, he recognizes their necessity and purpose.
I find this to offer at least a glimmer of human warmth to Frosts usual cold and imploding self absorbency which takes humanity and submerges in what I have described elsewhere as his personal black hole. "good fences make good neighbours" makes warm common sense. The fence is a token of accepted compromise, an admission of some things guarded and some things agreed upon, even shared. An agreed right to privacy with an applied sense of cross awareness and care, Handed down from generations this saying would serve to nurture, preserve and enrich those on either side. But Frost disposes of it as a meaningless oft repeated platitude and slides it over his event horizon to disappear in futility, devoid of any meaning. As frost would finish . . . "Dead."
John 3:16 ; For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
the poem is of open interpretion. the poet's friend is of opinion that that good fences make good neighbours. in my opinion to some extent he is also right coz he cares about himself. he want to keep himself safe frm enemies. in present times privacy is must. i am not saying that his neigbour is his enemy but in present times we notice how many people are being killed without reasons. man has become a beast. He is not able to make difference between ryt and wrong. so making privacy by mending a wall is not a negative sign. it has a no. of positive signs also.
TRUMPISM? Is the analyzer a TRUMPSTER? Of course we need some separation, but in the US, today, we are becoming INSANE with this! It was JFK, a Democrat, who asked Robert Frost to speak at his inauguration. Does Trump know any poems??? THANKS
You're putting this on me, but I just analyze Frost for what he wrote. Study his poetry, and you will find this in his poem "Build Soil," which I referenced on the website: "We're always too much out or too much in. At present from a cosmical dilation We're so much out that the odds are against Our ever getting inside in again. But inside in is where we've got to get. My friends all know I'm interpersonal. But long before I'm interpersonal Away 'way down inside I'm personal. Just so before we're international We' re national and act as nationals." Frost's belief in barriers is expressed often in his poetry. I didn't put it there, he did. Read "Build Soil" and see it for yourself.
This is actually another message for the wall.
The initial message of the poem is that the walls represent a relationship and how boundaries are important in any and all relationships, and we should respect each other because of those walls.
Another meaning is a bit darker and it involves in quite a literal sense, young people in society and old people in society. "Mending a wall." What does that "wall"....stand for, it stands for laws, prejudice, sexism and racism and how the wall is mended...by the quote "good fences..make good neighbors," and how it is, by thy quote "his father's saying," mending the wall is quite literally meaning to mend the laws/ideologies in the past, every year the wall comes down because...it's not supposed to be there, the individual stones stacked on top of each other, just like people..some stay, other collapse but it's the repetitive action of re-teaching the wrong aspects and ideas in life that is it "mending the wall," "mending" is positive, but once the metaphorical wall is seen as something else, something more sinister in the sense that it completely disregards relationships, races and communities, that even though the word "mending" has positive vibes...it's ultimately supporting something that is just...well frankly, not positive.
And it's a really interesting dynamic because if we view this poem from the perspective that it IS about privacy and establishing good relationships with friends or in this case (your neighbors) the speaker is ultimately naive...he is questioning the need to repair this wall, this continued maintenance even though both of them know it's going to be destroyed anyways. The speaker, is....dumb..almost as like he doesn't see the point or even understand that the wall is symbolic of guide-lines in a relationship. On the other hand if we, as the reader read it from the more political side, it's more than obvious that the speaker, (who is a lot younger and more bares a more inquisitive nature) is questioning the need, for...not the wall...but instead the law. Why do we, as a society need these walls? It doesn't matter what color you are. Where you're from. How much money you have. What class of education you've gained. Why should these walls, (ironically) separate us? Instead of making us come together?
And ultimately that's the key to the paradox, through the "process mending the wall" a process that's been done numerous times before, you can understand that, it's mending,,,the law, it's mending something that they should've left to crumble. We know this is the case because that's all the neighbor says, and he's been even described as he "moves in darkness" because he's trapped in..walls essentially, his life and all he's known is dependent on those walls, those walls have caused him to live in darkness, in unacceptable, in a ridiculous and, well.....A degenerate...."A savage" nothing more than a puppet, governed by these walls, therefore making the speaker ultimately and comparatively more enlighted, or "smart" if you will.
FreelosoFur wow great analysis. Do you have an email I can contact you by ? I really need help writing a essay on this. At this point, I’m willing to pay.
Sam Sue ah sure! And you don’t need to pay, I’d feel bad if I took payment over something so minor haha.
My email is: philosopherruben@gmail.com
Wow, I think you explained better with typed words,than the video.I'm glad that I always read comments when I'm done with the videos. 😊
Good job, mate. 👍👍
Wow..freelosofur , yours is much better than the video.
A great analysis 👍🏼
the wall within the poem's structure blew my mind
My English teacher taught us the opposite interpretation of that poem, that the neighbour refuses to coincide with the narrator and is stuck in old traditions, unquestioning. I am extremely glad I found this as it shares my viewpoint that walls and boundaries are necessary in any relationship and having them is not a negative thing.
I had always imagined the narrator to be an enlightened man. The darkness does not represent fear but rather ignorance. The neighbor does not question his father's saying and walks like a stone age savage. I have enjoyed watching your videos, though!
Bringing you back to the future. 7 years ago man. Do you remember commenting this?
The power of a poem, from my point of view, is that it spans time and distance. Its timeliness is timeless. It spans distance, it is meaningful near and far, my backyard to countries and cultures afar. It speaks concretely and metaphorically. A powerful literary form.
SHOUT OUT TO YOU FOR HELPING ME WITH MY ESSAY!
I don't agree with your interpretation that the narrator is deceitful - nor that the neighbor is "positive". Frost makes it clear that at the specific position at issue, a wall fulfills no useful purpose:
"It comes to little more:
There where it is we do not need the wall:
He is all pine and I am apple orchard."
The neighbor insists "Good fences make good neighbors" because his father told him so. That is, implicitly, an accusation of dishonesty towards the narrator, an accusation of envy and a desire to trespass and somehow harm the neighbor. The narrator points out the context of the proverb, that it relates to cows who, having no concept of property lines, may trespass unwittingly, but the neighbor insists on the proverb for no other reason than that his father taught it to him. He is stuck in his ways, blinkered, building walls for building walls' sake, rather than for them to fulfill a specific purpose.
The narrator is not deceitful, he is just not confrontational and wants the neighbor to come to the proper conclusion himself.
Quite obviously, the narrator isn't against walls per se - he's repairing them and on his own initiative, calls the neighbor so they can repair the fall from their respective sides. What the author IS against is building walls for their own sake even in locations where they fulfill no real purpose but to distance yourself from other people and cast suspicion on them.
You're mistaking the narrator with Frost. Frost said something to the effect that the more I say 'I' the less likely it is that he is talking about himself. The narrator doesn't want the wall. You are coming to the poem with your own ideas and putting them on Frost. Frost wrote many poems about what he believed were the importance of boundaries. His poetry, with rhyme and meter, was a "wall" that he himself often mentioned, in contrast to the free verse of his contemporaries.
Brilliant poem. Maybe my favorite when I was young and could quote it by heart. Today, one week after Trump took office, the poem occurred to me again. Eternally relevant. "Something there is that doesn't love a wall...,"
"And because stone sounds like own." Quite a reach there.
If he hates him why dosent he want a wall? Good job btw u just did months of my teachers job in few minutes. And better
I mean, the wall kinda depicts a paradox, because they're essentially coming together to separate themselves, if he doesn't hate "him" he just finds the process of building the wall tedious and unnecessary :v The wall in this sense, is metaphorically the two's fight against the op powers of nature (in a sense) and is more of unity than it is...well...separation. Yeah I don't quite understand this poem either just yet, but I'm getting there .-.
To get the full analysis with much greater detail, go to the link in the description. Many details were left out of the video to keep its length reasonable.
is there a new link..? cause the one provided contains a different video now
@@hassanezouicha8658 Use the second link. The first one is a link to our main page.
@@xoaxdotnet replying on comments even after long time passed is just wooow. Thank you so much for the help
I've another question plz
Frost wrote this poem and published it in Boston UK or in Boston New england(US) ?
@@hassanezouicha8658 Frost was from New England (US). The poem was published in the volume of work entitled "North of Boston," meaning Boston, Mass. However, this volume was published originally by a London based company. Later, it was subsequently published by Holt (US), after Frost switched his publisher.
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Please look at and review this poem consciously again. Your perspective of the narrator's negativity might just be misplaced! The overall message is not about the narrator's negativity, rather aspects of how boundaries create barriers that do not necessarily serve anyone. Certainly, one might see such an interpretation as the easy way of looking at the poem. Yet, interpretations into the poet's meaning can only be subjective. For this reader of the poem, it is clearly a statement on how built up walls are merely an act of perceived separation. Without conversing with the poet, any interpretation is only that, an interpretation.
Thank you for clarifying this.
It’s the “narrator’s” hate that wants the wall down?
I don’t get it.
My favourite poem. How many people have a favourite one? i do. Have a second favourite one aswell? Pertinent to todays topics.Who you walling in an walling out?Political.
"Some men there are love not a gaping pig..." -- Shylock speaks. Shakespeare, Merchant of Venice, Act. 1V, Scene 1.
I look at it as the difference between traditional thinking and imaginative thinking...too much analysis ruins it for me.
Wow! I love this analysis. I checked out the website xoax.net and checked out your other UA-cam videos. Please let me know where I can find more material like this: either from you or by someone else. I am grateful for your work and your sharing.
LIFE SAVER MAN THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
wow, this totally overturned my understanding of the poem, and I'm about to do a gr. 12 presentation on Robert Frost. Thanks!
GREAT JOB, THANK YOU SO MUCH. when will analogy ever be important in my career of pursuing game art and design...? NEVER!
This poem, like so many others, has been wrung out to the point of ad nauseam however why buck the trend? I disagree that the narrator doesn't want the wall. The title of poem itself is "Mending wall" and not "Mending the wall." A very slight difference, I recognize but this suggests to me that the wall has some useful purpose (providing appropriate boundaries and mending relationships). Also, while the narrator acts as a foil to the conventional wisdom of his neighbor (and the neighbor's father), in the end, the phrase is repeated: Good fences make good neighbors-to which the narrator doesn't argue. If the narrator hates walls so much, why does he bother to help reconstruct it? While the narrator isn't a big fan of walls, he recognizes their necessity and purpose.
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I find this to offer at least a glimmer of human warmth to Frosts usual cold and imploding self absorbency which takes humanity and submerges in what I have described elsewhere as his personal black hole.
"good fences make good neighbours" makes warm common sense. The fence is a token of accepted compromise, an admission of some things guarded and some things agreed upon, even shared. An agreed right to privacy with an applied sense of cross awareness and care,
Handed down from generations this saying would serve to nurture, preserve and enrich those on either side.
But Frost disposes of it as a meaningless oft repeated platitude and slides it over his event horizon to disappear in futility, devoid of any meaning.
As frost would finish . . . "Dead."
Loved the content. Try to improve the intro and background music, in order to be more attractive to newcomers.
absolutely heart touching
Good walls make good countries
Why would not anyone be on the side of the narrator?????????
You sir are a God, maybe not the God, but definitely a God. Keep up the good work!!!!!!
John 3:16 ; For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son; that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
You have a great voice!
the poem is of open interpretion. the poet's friend is of opinion that that good fences make good neighbours. in my opinion to some extent he is also right coz he cares about himself. he want to keep himself safe frm enemies. in present times privacy is must. i am not saying that his neigbour is his enemy but in present times we notice how many people are being killed without reasons. man has become a beast. He is not able to make difference between ryt and wrong. so making privacy by mending a wall is not a negative sign. it has a no. of positive signs also.
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Social distancing
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You are my Saviour :P
Not even close.
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good to know
TRUMPISM? Is the analyzer a TRUMPSTER?
Of course we need some separation, but in the US, today, we are becoming INSANE with this!
It was JFK, a Democrat, who asked Robert Frost to speak at his inauguration.
Does Trump know any poems??? THANKS
You're putting this on me, but I just analyze Frost for what he wrote. Study his poetry, and you will find this in his poem "Build Soil," which I referenced on the website: "We're always too much out or too much in. At present from a cosmical dilation We're so much out that the odds are against Our ever getting inside in again. But inside in is where we've got to get. My friends all know I'm interpersonal. But long before I'm interpersonal Away 'way down inside I'm personal. Just so before we're international We' re national and act as nationals." Frost's belief in barriers is expressed often in his poetry. I didn't put it there, he did. Read "Build Soil" and see it for yourself.