Intriguing. When the car encounters the palette, would it not be safer in most cases for the car to steer around the palette rather than stop? Otherwise, the risk of being rear ended exists. I recognize the current level 3 system may not allow the car to change lanes to avoid the palette, but is it the intention in future to allow the car to change lanes to avoid obstacles, provided there is no adjacent car preventing that maneuver? If so, would that require a more advanced lidar system with lower latency and 360 degree coverage? As well, is a more advanced lidar required to increase the level 3 speeds beyond 60 km/h and up to the 130 km/h allowed by regulation?
Not sure what the regulations are in regards to that, but that palette could be simply be a car braking hard in front of you. You rarely have time to go around it, in safe manner. The safest way MIGHT be to still brake hard. Again, not 100% sure, just my opinion
@@ChrisB_Crisps Well, the regulation (R157) in its latest version doesn't necessarily restrict the ADS vehicle from leaving its current lane of travel. For an Emergency Manouvre, it allows to do so, but it is really up to the strategy of the manufacturer on how its AD system deals with those kind of situations when there is an imminent collision risk. If choosing to swerve around the obstacle, that would of course only be possible if it doesn't cause an unsafe situation for vehicles in the lane you're evading into. Also in non-risk situations the vehicle could leave the current lane. For instance, forming an access corridor for emergency vehicles or performing a regular lane change for overtaking.
BMW Group hacked and parodied EJFJ Positive Contextualisation, the accurate identification of any object with few lanthanid atoms disposer cleverly in well identified material with well known physical characteristics (pressure reactions, dilatation, humidity effects, ...) to allow accurate identification of what is scientifically possible and what is dangerous and needs to be spared!
i was driving my ix1 on welsh roads a couple of weeks ago and had a couple of surprises from its driver assistance speed limit compliance - does anyone know how to file bug reports with the driver assistance team "mistook a '30 mph in 200 yards'" speed limit sign as an immediate 30 mph sign and did an needless hard break"...
Damn coming from teslas fsd, this really puts into perspective that how far these companies are from autonomy. I feel like if someone witnesses fsd today in Tesla, they’ll know what I’m talking about. No wonder these companies are way behind. So many things. 1. You need a new hardware? That sucks big time. 2. So many limitations to this not very self driving
@@worldview2134 same here. So hopefully we will test it next year again. This was a real driving scenario though. With highways and signs. But then again, not sure how it works in other environments
@@bmwblog A while back my Mercedes with Level II system freaked out on a freeway when a plastic bag flew in front and slammed on the brakes. Most likely BMW will do the same. My Tesla ignores bags, since it's not using the radar anymore, just vision. I'd rather have a combo of radar/lidar/vision when vision can override erroneous inputs, like plastic bags.
I think it's the only brand that should always have autonomous driving. Now they will drive better than the current BMW drivers and they will finally use the turn signals!
@@bmwblog I really hope they treat their iX SUV as a premiere product just like 7 series. In EV SUV that's their top model. EQS Sedan and SUV will have similar capability next year, no reason for BMW to not have it in both their Sedan and SUV. Exciting time ahead -- can't wait for more details on Neu Klasse this September Munich conference and about this Level 3 system hopefully by CES 2025. Hoping that BMW does an early Facelift to iX next year. I have been following your blog and I must commend you for all the great work you do for aspiring BMW buyers.
Stopping for the palette would be disastrous in real highway driving conditions. L3 should check for traffic in other lanes and swerve carefully when able to
This is arguable. What if a car slams the brakes in front of you? Should the car try to stop or potentially go around it and hit other cars or objects?
Another demo in the controlled environment. We have seen this before , until you can check it yourself on normal road without engineer its nothing interesting.
From this demo I see only Level 2 ADAS, only automatic braking and Auto Cruise Control. No automatic acoidance or overtaking... For me now the best is Waymo taxi, then Mercedes ADAS 3, then Honda, then the Comma AI and the last is the AutoPilot from Tesla
Geht ja auch mehr um das Regulatorische. Mit Level 3 ist nicht mehr der Fahrer für Unfälle verantwortlich. Von daher ist hier BMW rein rechtlich um Jahre voraus.
When I watched this video, it had already been published 8 months ago. Have there been significant advancements in these past eight months? I suspect progress has nearly stalled for many. We've all seen Tesla's Version 12 evolving in a frenzy of updates. As a BMW owner, I hope to see a level of autonomous driving that can truly compete with Tesla. But BMW and Mercedes, how much have you actually advanced? It feels like starting this year, the gap is only widening.🤔
I am assuming BMW and Mercedes Benz are using the same autonomous driving software from Nvidia. This is pretty much useless given all the preconditions. For less than $45K, the Tesla Model Y can be self-drive on any road, anytime, and just about any conditions.
Totally autonomous driving… well, as long as you are going less than 40 MPH on a mapped highway, during the day, not raining, and following another car!!!! OMG. LOL!!!!! Just drove a Tesla from AZ through UT, CO, NM and back to AZ STARTING IN MY DRIVEWAY btw, without touching a pedal or the steering wheel. This is a joke.
@@bmwblogLOL not talking about “regulations” talking about functionality. This so called L3 is a joke. It is at best adaptive cruise control. Until it can take you from your driveway to the highway, then back on local streets and park at your destination, you should not call it autonomous. Tesla FSD can do all of that now hands free and they still call theirs L2.
There's literally videos on UA-cam of people doing complex unedited drives in Tesla's for like hours without touching the steering wheel. The truth is every other car company is a decade behind tesla and has to use marketing to compensate
Where?? When I asked him something, it was more of a quick follow up. We don't have the luxury to wait for a full speech and then ask questions. Time is limited and we wanna probe with questions. If you listen the whole thing, the instances where you see that, are very limited.
Haven't tested Tesla. But essentially this is what the regulations define Level 3. I'm sure there are edge cases that some automakers can push, but it probably comes down to how comfortable each OEM is with risk.
sadly this technically is L3, but the levels DO NOT connote ability or feature set. Its definitely inferior to FSD, but L3 is so limited its more of a checkbox than anything advanced.
The ultimate autonomous machine , bmw new slogan. Currently on my 3rd Bmw honestly feel like the company is moving away from its dna , injecting more and more unnecessary tech and taking away the soul .
a big LOL! BMW team,. very outdated.. who in the world says this as level 3, when you are not even allowed to wear sunglasses, and it keeps watching your face/eyes, while you get pissed off to sear the straight light and not able to wear any sun glasses.. and does this even have any automatic lane change at the least or the drivers needs to instruct it explicitly pressing the left/right turn shaft?
This guy interrupts the BMW guy so much it’s annoying. Be professional dude. Your replies to some of the comments are rude as well. You’ve interrupted the guy 90% of the time.
What replies were rude? And part of a conversation is sometimes to interrupt and ask a quick follow up. Especially when you know you only have a few minutes. But again, what comments were rude?
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Intriguing.
When the car encounters the palette, would it not be safer in most cases for the car to steer around the palette rather than stop? Otherwise, the risk of being rear ended exists. I recognize the current level 3 system may not allow the car to change lanes to avoid the palette, but is it the intention in future to allow the car to change lanes to avoid obstacles, provided there is no adjacent car preventing that maneuver?
If so, would that require a more advanced lidar system with lower latency and 360 degree coverage?
As well, is a more advanced lidar required to increase the level 3 speeds beyond 60 km/h and up to the 130 km/h allowed by regulation?
Not sure what the regulations are in regards to that, but that palette could be simply be a car braking hard in front of you. You rarely have time to go around it, in safe manner. The safest way MIGHT be to still brake hard. Again, not 100% sure, just my opinion
By regulation the lane on L3 can only be left by human request. Is the case here and in general?
@@ChrisB_Crisps Well, the regulation (R157) in its latest version doesn't necessarily restrict the ADS vehicle from leaving its current lane of travel. For an Emergency Manouvre, it allows to do so, but it is really up to the strategy of the manufacturer on how its AD system deals with those kind of situations when there is an imminent collision risk.
If choosing to swerve around the obstacle, that would of course only be possible if it doesn't cause an unsafe situation for vehicles in the lane you're evading into.
Also in non-risk situations the vehicle could leave the current lane. For instance, forming an access corridor for emergency vehicles or performing a regular lane change for overtaking.
BMW Group hacked and parodied EJFJ Positive Contextualisation, the accurate identification of any object with few lanthanid atoms disposer cleverly in well identified material with well known physical characteristics (pressure reactions, dilatation, humidity effects, ...) to allow accurate identification of what is scientifically possible and what is dangerous and needs to be spared!
(Almost) the same is possible in my 3 series 2020 just pushing my knee against the wheel and then just chilling on the Autobahn
Not even close :)
@@bmwblog can you still say that????
This model is developing for the Lane change also Right?
LiDAR is the problem going forward. It doesn’t work well in rain , fog or snow. Mila technology solves these issues.
You meant Mobileye’s technology solves these issues?
@@Universal.x - well sort of . Relying on one element won’t get government approval for safety reasons.
You mean Microvision solves this problem. MAVIN
I live in the Arizona Desert where rain fog and snow are not a worry!
@@hazyeyesblank - Mila technology solves it. Elon is trying to buy the company
i was driving my ix1 on welsh roads a couple of weeks ago and had a couple of surprises from its driver assistance speed limit compliance - does anyone know how to file bug reports with the driver assistance team "mistook a '30 mph in 200 yards'" speed limit sign as an immediate 30 mph sign and did an needless hard break"...
Good question. Did you try to reach out to the customer service BMW UK?
Damn coming from teslas fsd, this really puts into perspective that how far these companies are from autonomy. I feel like if someone witnesses fsd today in Tesla, they’ll know what I’m talking about. No wonder these companies are way behind.
So many things.
1. You need a new hardware? That sucks big time.
2. So many limitations to this not very self driving
Too many things to touch one comparing the Tesla FSD to this. Very different approaches
for a 200k full equip car price. ill take a tesla model X witch is half the price and do the same thing with better performance.
Very different cars. No one buys the 7 Series for performance
@@bmwblogmaybe to impress their neighbour
I'm guessing BMW can implement this in California, as Mercedes is allowed to.
Hopefully, the didn't say yet. But did say US is on the list
@@bmwblog any news on Canada implementation at the same time with the planned US one ?
@@dj1nnie no news. Whatever they wanted to communicate now, they did in the video. Hopefully we learn more soon
@@bmwblog- edgecase is still an issue but looks ok on a track. Would like to see it read street signs like automotiveai uk can do
@@worldview2134 same here. So hopefully we will test it next year again. This was a real driving scenario though. With highways and signs. But then again, not sure how it works in other environments
“Surprise coming up”
So…not a surprise 😂
5:24 on the car camera there is a box, on the outside camera you are showing a wooden palette
B-roll footage. The idea is the same
Was this on IDRIVE 9 ?
What would it do, if something like a carrier bag(plastic bag) blew in front of the car?
We clearly have not tested that. But good question
@@bmwblog A while back my Mercedes with Level II system freaked out on a freeway when a plastic bag flew in front and slammed on the brakes. Most likely BMW will do the same. My Tesla ignores bags, since it's not using the radar anymore, just vision. I'd rather have a combo of radar/lidar/vision when vision can override erroneous inputs, like plastic bags.
Does it work during the night
We have not tested it
@bmwblog so this review is useless
I think it's the only brand that should always have autonomous driving. Now they will drive better than the current BMW drivers and they will finally use the turn signals!
Will 2025 BMW iX get this Hardware Software ?
Unclear which models get it. The 7 Series is def first.
@@bmwblog I really hope they treat their iX SUV as a premiere product just like 7 series. In EV SUV that's their top model. EQS Sedan and SUV will have similar capability next year, no reason for BMW to not have it in both their Sedan and SUV. Exciting time ahead -- can't wait for more details on Neu Klasse this September Munich conference and about this Level 3 system hopefully by CES 2025. Hoping that BMW does an early Facelift to iX next year. I have been following your blog and I must commend you for all the great work you do for aspiring BMW buyers.
Stopping for the palette would be disastrous in real highway driving conditions.
L3 should check for traffic in other lanes and swerve carefully when able to
This is arguable. What if a car slams the brakes in front of you? Should the car try to stop or potentially go around it and hit other cars or objects?
By EU regulation the lane on L3 can only be left by human request. Is the case here and in general?
Mercedas also has lv 3 autonomy the drive pilot
Another demo in the controlled environment. We have seen this before , until you can check it yourself on normal road without engineer its nothing interesting.
Eventually we will check this ourselves, but the development is clearly not ready so this was a chance for us to preview it.
From this demo I see only Level 2 ADAS, only automatic braking and Auto Cruise Control. No automatic acoidance or overtaking...
For me now the best is Waymo taxi, then Mercedes ADAS 3, then Honda, then the Comma AI and the last is the AutoPilot from Tesla
BMW defines this as Level 3, there are some unique features only for L3
@@bmwblog My X50e already has hands free highway driving up to 85 mph. Mercedes doesn't have that still till this day on any of it's models lol
Super! Sehr realistisch mit 59kmh auf einer leeren Autobahn. Da ist BMW dem Tesla um Jahre voraus. 😂
Geht ja auch mehr um das Regulatorische. Mit Level 3 ist nicht mehr der Fahrer für Unfälle verantwortlich. Von daher ist hier BMW rein rechtlich um Jahre voraus.
When I watched this video, it had already been published 8 months ago. Have there been significant advancements in these past eight months? I suspect progress has nearly stalled for many. We've all seen Tesla's Version 12 evolving in a frenzy of updates. As a BMW owner, I hope to see a level of autonomous driving that can truly compete with Tesla. But BMW and Mercedes, how much have you actually advanced? It feels like starting this year, the gap is only widening.🤔
No updates yet. Level 3 is rolling out now. But they are working already on the next generation
id7 Assist driving plus is can't at Korean😢
Wdf would you buy BMW to be driven? Ultimate driving machine once ment something else.
BMW...The ultimate riding machine haha
The ultimate driving machine and "self-driving" in one sentence!
What a monkey (mockery).
There's no self driving or autopilot, just marketing tricks.
I am assuming BMW and Mercedes Benz are using the same autonomous driving software from Nvidia. This is pretty much useless given all the preconditions. For less than $45K, the Tesla Model Y can be self-drive on any road, anytime, and just about any conditions.
Can it though? From what I know, that system is still Level 2+
Totally autonomous driving… well, as long as you are going less than 40 MPH on a mapped highway, during the day, not raining, and following another car!!!! OMG. LOL!!!!! Just drove a Tesla from AZ through UT, CO, NM and back to AZ STARTING IN MY DRIVEWAY btw, without touching a pedal or the steering wheel. This is a joke.
This is Level 3, so different regulations
@@bmwblogLOL not talking about “regulations” talking about functionality. This so called L3 is a joke. It is at best adaptive cruise control. Until it can take you from your driveway to the highway, then back on local streets and park at your destination, you should not call it autonomous. Tesla FSD can do all of that now hands free and they still call theirs L2.
There is a difference between the car being able to do this and doing it safely. It's not like BMW or other OEMs set those standards anyway.
There's literally videos on UA-cam of people doing complex unedited drives in Tesla's for like hours without touching the steering wheel. The truth is every other car company is a decade behind tesla and has to use marketing to compensate
Why can teslas auto drive but BMW’s can’t?
can it though?
This guy won't stop talking over the developer...like let him talk damn.
Where?? When I asked him something, it was more of a quick follow up. We don't have the luxury to wait for a full speech and then ask questions. Time is limited and we wanna probe with questions. If you listen the whole thing, the instances where you see that, are very limited.
Driving loke that to boting you will fall asleep
German IT. This is ridiculous ... unbelievable. Autobahn 60 kmh, stopps before the pallet. Dangerous.
Tesla is light years ahead ... this is not level 3 ! What a joke 👎
keep quiet i am being paid a lot of money to programme this
No one gives a shit about Tesla plastic car.
Haven't tested Tesla. But essentially this is what the regulations define Level 3. I'm sure there are edge cases that some automakers can push, but it probably comes down to how comfortable each OEM is with risk.
sadly this technically is L3, but the levels DO NOT connote ability or feature set. Its definitely inferior to FSD, but L3 is so limited its more of a checkbox than anything advanced.
They are experimenting to see what they can do or how to be a competitive solution. Did it get better now?
The ultimate autonomous machine , bmw new slogan. Currently on my 3rd Bmw honestly feel like the company is moving away from its dna , injecting more and more unnecessary tech and taking away the soul .
We're in 2023, all car companies are doing this.
@@bmwblog all car companies are offering autonomous driving ? 🤔
You have to do this to sell cars, you can drive on your own if you want anyways.
All cars are becoming software defined for most part. Soul is barely hanging there.
I’m guessing whoever made this comment is old. Young people want this tech (BMW’s next generation of buyers)
a big LOL! BMW team,. very outdated.. who in the world says this as level 3, when you are not even allowed to wear sunglasses, and it keeps watching your face/eyes, while you get pissed off to sear the straight light and not able to wear any sun glasses.. and does this even have any automatic lane change at the least or the drivers needs to instruct it explicitly pressing the left/right turn shaft?
I tested Level 2+ with sunglasses, and it works
@@bmwblog which car n model ?
Will this be available in the UK?
Unclear yet which markets get it and when. I guess all regulations based
also car must see lines on road etc, it shows you on map where different lvls are possible
@@holotrop11 exactly. It will work in some places but clearly not everywhere. Which it's normal. Of course, it can also reverse to level 2+
This guy interrupts the BMW guy so much it’s annoying. Be professional dude. Your replies to some of the comments are rude as well. You’ve interrupted the guy 90% of the time.
What replies were rude? And part of a conversation is sometimes to interrupt and ask a quick follow up. Especially when you know you only have a few minutes. But again, what comments were rude?
well, if you speak constantly while the other is still talking, it does not help either, even if you are short of time@@bmwblog
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