When I got this bike early last Spring nobody could tell me if the 690 and 701 shared a common countershaft sprocket.....Just tried to order one today (14T) so I'm interested to see what they come back with. At 14/48 you'd be lower than I am now - not all bad but you better have some really steep hills or you won't need it that low......
Good Call on the Case Saver, need one for my 990, I broke my chain and broke a bunch of stuff, Clutch Slave, Center clutch push rod and broke a lot of small bolts off in the case. Got Lucky I suppose
Well I found out the air filter was never meant to be used off road. For off-road the oil needs to be changed every 1K - 1.5K miles. Throw away the stock airbox and go with foam filter. See my other video about bypass dongle -....Other than that it seems fine.
Great review, I debated going with a >48t sprocket, but decided to go down 1t on the front after smoking my clutch ... 14/48 seems to be working very well for me.
Everybody I talked to said there were no other countershaft sprocket sizes available for a 2017 701. I would have preferred to drop a tooth there rather than buy new rear sprockets and chains every time....
I’m looking at getting a dual sport bike this year and the XR650L seems like the best bang for the buck. It’s only 2 pounds more than this bike and almost half the price. That leaves plenty of cash for new tires, exhaust, carb mod etc. The Husky appeals to me with the EFI and ABS, but not to the tune of 5000 dollars more than the Honda, thoughts?
That Honda will go almost anywhere the Husky will go. The difference is how fast do you want to get there ? If that's important forget about the Honda. And what you want to add in "extras" for the Honda you'll probably want to do on the Husky. I had to put an additional $3K into the bike to get it where I wanted it. The Honda will go twice as far on a tank of gas - something I would be envious of. You get bent out of shape on the Honda and you're probably going to end up in the dirt. Get bent of shape on the Husky and you'll think you're a motorcycle god for not doing a face plant. The chassis and suspension can't even be compared but if you're never going to push the Husky hard enough you'll never need all the expensive engineering anyway. Bottom line is what kind of riding are you going to do. The guys that push as hard as me on the dirt are on full blown dirt bikes. The dual sport bike guys like the off road stuff until it gets too hard - which is where the dirt bike guys start to have fun. I live in a very unique area so I'm able to capitalize on a truly competent dual sport bike - most I think do 80/20 on the road/off road. Even will all my efforts to stay off road I'm lucky to do 40/60 on road/off road. The biggest reason for the Husky is that 74 hp motor.
Clark Rupp Thanks Clark for your detailed reply, much appreciated sir. It looks to me from your videos that the riding was basically technical single track and dirt/gravel roads. I’m older now, 54, but when I was young, I rode a WR500 that had a reworked shock and forks from Racetech and I rode mostly on motocross tracks doing double jumps and trying to just go fast. I never got good enough to race and then I started having back issues which surgery fixed for me and I feel good now. I don’t plan on doing doubles again or anything crazy but I do want to have fun in the woods etc. 74 hp versus 42 - 48 hp with a new carb is a big difference, not mention the suspension, chassis, ABS and EFI. My heart says 701 and my brain says 650...... I suppose, I could go 650 and if I am still wanting more they have a good resale value I suppose lol. Thanks for your insight, great videos btw.
KLR ran out of oil from to engine damage in 60 miles.. so forward with the 705 kit. 50K miles on original 2008 motor so i arguably got my money's worth on the first go -round. I still use the KLR to run to the store etc so I save some wear on the Husky's tires....I have spent over $3K on the Husky to get it where i wanted it.
I wouldn't put that much into a KLR or anything but the Husky needed a lot of help if it was going to work off-road. There's an upcharge for everything Husky so maybe something to keep in mind
you tell at the beginning of you video, that you using nuetech tubliss. Does they fitt at the original 701 rims? nuetech say, the they fitt only till 1,6" in the front or 2,15 " in the rear, but the husky has 1,85 " front and 2,5" in the rear.
That's why I also indicate that you HAVE to use the MAXXIX desert tire. The bead wall is thicker than any other tire and will allow it to seal tight. Hold tight for a couple of days...... I'm going to make a video just on this topic. I'll spell out in detail the exact issues and how it works with this bike..
New chains with all the sprockets I tried. I now have a good new chain inventory ! Turns out the countershaft sprocket is the same configuration as the KTM Duke so I now have a smaller CS sprocket in stock so hopefully I can use some of those smaller rear sprockets with new chains - after the motor gets put back together....... It blew up last month and I'm battling with Husky over the warranty - or lack thereof.
Thanks Clark. I'm definitely going with the TUbliss system. Wasn't sure about the 15/51 until I saw your video. I was thinking about the Motoz tractionator desert for the rear, still undecided though.
If you go Tubliss you HAVE to use Maxxis - no choice as the tires wont seal. I actually tried the MotoZ as I had just bought one - wouldn't seal up but sold it to my buddy with a 650 XR
You are not using enough soapy water then. There are many people with 701's using motoz, goldentyre, and all sorts of tires with the TUbliss system. Wouldn't be worth it or make sense to be limited to only one brand of tire.
Oldbikes4ever it's due to the 2.50" rim.... worked directly with the President of the company. The Maxxis bead is 1.5mm thicker than the MotoZ and TKC 80. That's 3mm combined sides less gap to fill with wide rim. Tubliss is not DOT and it's not a question of designed to work with one brand. It's designed for off road bikes only and the big bikes have 2.15" rim. That's why only the Maxxis works..... By all means though, try what tire you want use - just check the return policy before you buy!
If I am to believe the marketing inf,o the redline on the 2017 was raised to 9,000 rpm - up 1,000 rpm from the the '16 model. I would have to assume the rev limiter is set there or maybe 500 rpm beyond that. The power drops off before that point but it happens so fast on loose dirt that I was hitting it. I can't imagine the need to raise it any more than that - that's one huge piston in there......
About what rpm's are you running at 65 on the highway with the new sprocket? I'm in need to do the same you did. 1st gear is ridiculously high for offroading!
Clark Rupp Thanks for the reply. I actually have a ktm 690. Pretty similar bike but my brother is getting a 701 and we're trying to get all the info we can. I'm liking all the honest info you provide!
I run NUETECH TUBLISS on a highly modded 1988 Vinduro. Golden Tyre rear Big Daddy up front. I don't know how you can run 12psi. That's huge, even on wide open desert runs I wouldn't push 5psi in a million years. That sounds standard on heavy duty tubes NOT tubeless. Maybe check your forums or Nuetech. Have I lost your interpretation in conversion. Inner RED tube 100psi, outer Tyre or normal valve 2-4psi. For your experience why not drop that 12psi even further. Just sayin
I think we're saying the same thing...... Actually I'm running 125 psi nitrogen in the tubliss inner tubes. The front tire has nowhere the sidewall strength of the rear tire. At 12 psi in the front I'm stable on the asphalt and sticky in the dirt with good sidewall flex. The rear tire is simply ridiculous. It's nearly bald and still hooks up at less than half throttle. The ground right now is like concrete with pebbles on top. My recent rides have been scouting exercises so I'm not worried about maximum grip at max throttle. An argument could be made that a low pressure fat footprint tire will provide better traction on surfaces hard enough that knobs cannot dig into at all.
I love how California is the least free state in the country but they let you lane split. The other 49 need to get on board. I'm not a car stop trying to hold me to the same laws as cars and yet not treat me as one.
Robert Giggie yup, I commuted throughout the Bay Area for 25 years. I’ve got an 1100 Ninja sitting/rotting away. I haven’t used it in 5 years. It’s got 240,000 miles on it an I’d say 80,000 of those miles were done splitting traffic - never got tagged by another car....
its so incredibly frustrating. The communistic mentality of "I have to sit here so you do too or its not faaaair." Its called freedom, you could have it too if youd get out of that cage and on a bike.
god i hate these husqi rear lights. sooo big and ugly... the ktm ones are like 10 times better. i got a different licence plate mount for my 690 and it looks so good. if you want ur bike to look better then buy such a mount. it cost me 90 bucks but it looks sooo good
Thanks for making some nice videos of the bike actually being ridden
You can't beat those mirrors , they are the best..
Nice review, and ride, picked up my 701 recently, think I'm going to try the 14-48 combo. Thanks for all the comments.
When I got this bike early last Spring nobody could tell me if the 690 and 701 shared a common countershaft sprocket.....Just tried to order one today (14T) so I'm interested to see what they come back with. At 14/48 you'd be lower than I am now - not all bad but you better have some really steep hills or you won't need it that low......
wow man great video; really thorough real life testing of the bike. Thanks for posting this man.. Its helping a lot.
Thanks Miguel !
Good Call on the Case Saver, need one for my 990, I broke my chain and broke a bunch of stuff, Clutch Slave, Center clutch push rod and broke a lot of small
bolts off in the case. Got Lucky I suppose
How's the mantinance on the 701 Clark?
Well I found out the air filter was never meant to be used off road. For off-road the oil needs to be changed every 1K - 1.5K miles. Throw away the stock airbox and go with foam filter. See my other video about bypass dongle -....Other than that it seems fine.
Small world ! Trails are an absolute mess. Everything on hold as trees are down across all trails big and small.
Thats some fun you got there!
:)
Don't you know it !
Great review, I debated going with a >48t sprocket, but decided to go down 1t on the front after smoking my clutch ... 14/48 seems to be working very well for me.
Everybody I talked to said there were no other countershaft sprocket sizes available for a 2017 701. I would have preferred to drop a tooth there rather than buy new rear sprockets and chains every time....
Same sprocket you'd put on a 690 Enduro R ...
www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/3175/23006/Supersprox-Front-Sprocket?v=12481
Hi Clark. What kind of skid plate you got there? Happy with it?
Flatland Racing...... pretty banged up ! easy on/easy off
How does it go with a tiny fuel capacity... ?
You can’t even afford one 🤣🤣
OH what a lovely track , where abouts is it ??
Northern California - Sierra Mountain foothills
@@clarkrupp thanks Clark ! I'm over in Europe, riding a beta 350 and a 640 Adventure 👍😉
90 MPH or KPH?
MPH
I’m looking at getting a dual sport bike this year and the XR650L seems like the best bang for the buck. It’s only 2 pounds more than this bike and almost half the price. That leaves plenty of cash for new tires, exhaust, carb mod etc. The Husky appeals to me with the EFI and ABS, but not to the tune of 5000 dollars more than the Honda, thoughts?
That Honda will go almost anywhere the Husky will go. The difference is how fast do you want to get there ? If that's important forget about the Honda. And what you want to add in "extras" for the Honda you'll probably want to do on the Husky. I had to put an additional $3K into the bike to get it where I wanted it. The Honda will go twice as far on a tank of gas - something I would be envious of. You get bent out of shape on the Honda and you're probably going to end up in the dirt. Get bent of shape on the Husky and you'll think you're a motorcycle god for not doing a face plant. The chassis and suspension can't even be compared but if you're never going to push the Husky hard enough you'll never need all the expensive engineering anyway. Bottom line is what kind of riding are you going to do. The guys that push as hard as me on the dirt are on full blown dirt bikes. The dual sport bike guys like the off road stuff until it gets too hard - which is where the dirt bike guys start to have fun. I live in a very unique area so I'm able to capitalize on a truly competent dual sport bike - most I think do 80/20 on the road/off road. Even will all my efforts to stay off road I'm lucky to do 40/60 on road/off road. The biggest reason for the Husky is that 74 hp motor.
Clark Rupp Thanks Clark for your detailed reply, much appreciated sir. It looks to me from your videos that the riding was basically technical single track and dirt/gravel roads. I’m older now, 54, but when I was young, I rode a WR500 that had a reworked shock and forks from Racetech and I rode mostly on motocross tracks doing double jumps and trying to just go fast. I never got good enough to race and then I started having back issues which surgery fixed for me and I feel good now. I don’t plan on doing doubles again or anything crazy but I do want to have fun in the woods etc. 74 hp versus 42 - 48 hp with a new carb is a big difference, not mention the suspension, chassis, ABS and EFI. My heart says 701 and my brain says 650...... I suppose, I could go 650 and if I am still wanting more they have a good resale value I suppose lol. Thanks for your insight, great videos btw.
Yup.... I could ride 90% of these trails on my 705 KLR - modifies suspension et all but still you'll never turn a pig into a beauty queen.
KLR ran out of oil from to engine damage in 60 miles.. so forward with the 705 kit. 50K miles on original 2008 motor so i arguably got my money's worth on the first go -round. I still use the KLR to run to the store etc so I save some wear on the Husky's tires....I have spent over $3K on the Husky to get it where i wanted it.
I wouldn't put that much into a KLR or anything but the Husky needed a lot of help if it was going to work off-road. There's an upcharge for everything Husky so maybe something to keep in mind
Where about sin the Sierra Mountain foothills? I’m in Mi Wuk Village, east of Twain Harte
you tell at the beginning of you video, that you using nuetech tubliss. Does they fitt at the original 701 rims?
nuetech say, the they fitt only till 1,6" in the front or 2,15 " in the rear, but the husky has 1,85 " front and 2,5" in the rear.
That's why I also indicate that you HAVE to use the MAXXIX desert tire. The bead wall is thicker than any other tire and will allow it to seal tight. Hold tight for a couple of days...... I'm going to make a video just on this topic. I'll spell out in detail the exact issues and how it works with this bike..
thank you very mutch
When you went to the 51T sprocket, did you have to lengthen the chain?
New chains with all the sprockets I tried. I now have a good new chain inventory ! Turns out the countershaft sprocket is the same configuration as the KTM Duke so I now have a smaller CS sprocket in stock so hopefully I can use some of those smaller rear sprockets with new chains - after the motor gets put back together....... It blew up last month and I'm battling with Husky over the warranty - or lack thereof.
Great info!! Nice to see the 15/51 gearing in action. Seems to still be plenty fast for the tarmac. What rear tire are you using in the video?
I am using the Tubliss system from Neutech.com Maxxis dessert tire with 4 lbs of air. Uploading another video now.....
Thanks Clark. I'm definitely going with the TUbliss system. Wasn't sure about the 15/51 until I saw your video. I was thinking about the Motoz tractionator desert for the rear, still undecided though.
If you go Tubliss you HAVE to use Maxxis - no choice as the tires wont seal. I actually tried the MotoZ as I had just bought one - wouldn't seal up but sold it to my buddy with a 650 XR
You are not using enough soapy water then. There are many people with 701's using motoz, goldentyre, and all sorts of tires with the TUbliss system. Wouldn't be worth it or make sense to be limited to only one brand of tire.
Oldbikes4ever it's due to the 2.50" rim.... worked directly with the President of the company. The Maxxis bead is 1.5mm thicker than the MotoZ and TKC 80. That's 3mm combined sides less gap to fill with wide rim. Tubliss is not DOT and it's not a question of designed to work with one brand. It's designed for off road bikes only and the big bikes have 2.15" rim. That's why only the Maxxis works..... By all means though, try what tire you want use - just check the return policy before you buy!
i heard you mention rev limiter, do you know what its set at stock? do you know if you need a power commander to change it?
If I am to believe the marketing inf,o the redline on the 2017 was raised to 9,000 rpm - up 1,000 rpm from the the '16 model. I would have to assume the rev limiter is set there or maybe 500 rpm beyond that. The power drops off before that point but it happens so fast on loose dirt that I was hitting it. I can't imagine the need to raise it any more than that - that's one huge piston in there......
Where is this?
Knowing you would have to spend over 3k to get ot where you wanted, would you do it all over again?
You better subscribe - at least for the next month. I'm behind but I'll have some new videos coming......That question will be answered....
About what rpm's are you running at 65 on the highway with the new sprocket? I'm in need to do the same you did. 1st gear is ridiculously high for offroading!
Chris Wheatley No tach right..... throttle barely cracked open
Clark Rupp Thanks for the reply. I actually have a ktm 690. Pretty similar bike but my brother is getting a 701 and we're trying to get all the info we can. I'm liking all the honest info you provide!
How reliable is the bike?
No issue if you keep it on road. If you go off in the dirt you must run a foam air filter. Change oil every 1,000 miles.
@@clarkrupp did you run synthetic? The oil changes on my Ducati were about 100$ each time due to the synthetic oil I used
i need to lower my 17 701 enduro any idea who has the parts for that? im about 5'10 and its too tall off-road
MotoSteve Films of all places Amazon.....seems to me a called it out on a video. Unfortunately the bike burned up in my toy hauler so it’s long gone.
"Why does all the good stuff always have to be a dead end" Ain't that the truth?
Totally ! But I did off a 92 mile 3 hour loop on Saturday
I run NUETECH TUBLISS on a highly modded 1988 Vinduro. Golden Tyre rear Big Daddy up front.
I don't know how you can run 12psi. That's huge, even on wide open desert runs I wouldn't push 5psi in a million years.
That sounds standard on heavy duty tubes NOT tubeless. Maybe check your forums or Nuetech. Have I lost your interpretation in conversion. Inner RED tube 100psi, outer Tyre or normal valve 2-4psi.
For your experience why not drop that 12psi even further. Just sayin
I think we're saying the same thing...... Actually I'm running 125 psi nitrogen in the tubliss inner tubes. The front tire has nowhere the sidewall strength of the rear tire. At 12 psi in the front I'm stable on the asphalt and sticky in the dirt with good sidewall flex. The rear tire is simply ridiculous. It's nearly bald and still hooks up at less than half throttle. The ground right now is like concrete with pebbles on top. My recent rides have been scouting exercises so I'm not worried about maximum grip at max throttle. An argument could be made that a low pressure fat footprint tire will provide better traction on surfaces hard enough that knobs cannot dig into at all.
This is my dream bike, but if I had t I'd ride like a pussy because I wouldn't want to eat it
I love how California is the least free state in the country but they let you lane split. The other 49 need to get on board. I'm not a car stop trying to hold me to the same laws as cars and yet not treat me as one.
Robert Giggie yup, I commuted throughout the Bay Area for 25 years. I’ve got an 1100 Ninja sitting/rotting away. I haven’t used it in 5 years. It’s got 240,000 miles on it an I’d say 80,000 of those miles were done splitting traffic - never got tagged by another car....
its so incredibly frustrating. The communistic mentality of "I have to sit here so you do too or its not faaaair." Its called freedom, you could have it too if youd get out of that cage and on a bike.
god i hate these husqi rear lights. sooo big and ugly... the ktm ones are like 10 times better. i got a different licence plate mount for my 690 and it looks so good. if you want ur bike to look better then buy such a mount. it cost me 90 bucks but it looks sooo good
Broke my arm today while riding :(
Oh no ! Hate to say it but been there - done that ..... well my wrist and hand, Get better fast !
tractorvana
Kp00
very bad audio had to stop watching hard on my speakers !!
You must have had a funky download or something..... sounds fine on my big screen, mobile and pc