BEWARE THE DAUGHTER OF THE SEA! | World of Warcraft Reacts! Episode 1
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BEWARE THE DAUGHTER OF THE SEA! | World of Warcraft Reacts! Episode 1
React with me: • Warbringers: Jaina
On this episode of Squad Reacts we will react to Warbringers: Jaina animation trailer.
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'Oh god, dont do this to me; who did she lose?'
All of them.
Interestingly, your lack of general Warcraft knowledge is really getting to the heart of the Kul Tiran people who wrote this song. They didn't have the full story of the fall of Admiral Proudmore, either, and so they paint him as this loving father who was betrayed by his daughter who he had come to save. They don't know the whole story of what happened, and so wrote this song from a particular perspective.
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Brilliant, Much more interesting to hear someone who has no context break down the lyrics.
I'm not saying you're wrong in calling the Kul Tirans ignorant, but I think its more important to point out that they still genuinely see the horde as monsters, and so Jaina siding with monsters over their admiral is very much a betrayal to criticize, no matter how many details they may or may not be privy to.
This also gets a little worse when you find out thru an in-game cutscene. That "Daughter of the Sea" used to have very different lyrics.
Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe the Kul Tirans seceeded from the Alliance some time after the Second War. So they missed basically everything that happened after (and lucky them - if the Scourge or Legion had seen them as a threat, bye bye Kul Tiras). So they never found out about the fel corruption, and therefore only knew what they'd seen of the Horde in the past - savage beasts. And to have their shining star side with the beasts... She's lucky she wasn't executed the moment she showed her face.
The Daughter of the Sea, is folk song created by the Kultirans for Jaina because of their love and faith in Daelin Proudmore the Admiral of the Kul Tiran Fleet and ruler of Kul Tiras. This song itself has undergone changes by the history of the nation. the love, the hatred and Redemption mark the versions of the song. The version on warbringers brings the hatred for Jaina, because the lyrics marks of the people of Kul Tiras believed what happened in Theramore. (the way the people believed and admired Dealin was beyond everything). Now there are in-game cinematics thats shows more of the song and what represented before the hatred, and the future of redemption.
As others have said, Admiral Daelin Proudmoore - Jaina's father - was *not* a good man, but to understand that you need a little more context than the song provides (since, in the lore, it was written by people who considered him a hero).
To make a long story short, the first encounter the humans ever had with Orcs was the Orcs invading their lands and raiding, pillaging, and slaughtering them under the influence of demonic blood. The Orcs were eventually defeated, their connection to the demons was severed, and they realized what they had done as they were imprisoned (and often enslaved) by the human kingdoms. Eventually, they were liberated by one of their own (Thrall), who took them west to the continent of Kalimdor to settle a new home and atone for their past. Jaina had been the leader of an expedition to Kalimdor, and was more than happy to make peace with the Orcs, but her father had come to hunt down the Orcs, having fought them in the war and believing they were no different than the monsters they had once been. Jaina was forced to help the New Horde (Thrall's Orcs and their allies) stop her father, and kill him.
So why does she doubt herself? Thrall, despite being her longtime friend, left the Horde to stop a world-ending threat - and left the Horde in the hands of an Orc who ended up destroying Theramore - the city she had founded and made a home of - and killing many of her dearest friends, including her apprentice. She had spent her life and made so many sacrifices in the name of peace, only to have everything she'd worked for destroyed in an instant.
and to be more precise, she did tried to talk to him as his daughter.
She Tried really hard but he wouldnt listen.
The Orcs in kalimdor never wanted to fight Daelin at all, it was him who wanted to just kill them all because they were just orcs.
Well let's not forget the genocides of Sylvanas, the betrayals at Dalaran by the Blood Elfs, for just how long the horde went along with Garrosh's insane schemes. And lastly, how barely a soul confronted Garrosh to hinder the bombing of Theramore - Their greatest advocate within the Alliance(basically the reason they had not yet been exterminated. Because they certainly weren't strong enough to defend themselves when they had just settled there).
@@TheMaxCloud That's ignoring the history that Daelin had behind his perspectives. It would make perfect sense from what he had seen. His problem, was his inability to question, to consider the possibility that things had changed.
Daelin was a better person then 2 out of the 4 Warchiefs the Horde has had since WoW's start and actually had a spine unlike most of the Horde's leadership.
@@LuckySmurf A sad truth... Well I don't know about the spine part. But at the very least, he was a better person than Garrosh or Sylvanas(though that's not much to boast about).
I like how in the beginning it reads as "Beware, daughter of the sea." as a warning to said daughter. And then later changes meaning entirely: "Beware the daughter of the sea." as a warning ABOUT said daughter.
He followed her mainly to kill his enemies. The main point is that she betrayed him because he was a revenge-obsessed madman who wanted to genocide everyone in the Horde, when they had a much worse mutual enemy they needed to face. He also locked her away when she tried to talk him out of it and threatened her life.
But the song is from the point of the Kul Tirans, so they cast him as the hero and her as a villain. It's a shanty tainted by the bias of the Kul Tirans.
I know it's a lot to sum up, man. I applaud you. :)
Well that's one side of the coin. You sound like horde didn't do oopsies left and right. Maybe if admiral trimmed them hard we would not have a burning of the world tree right now.
There will be no peace between 2 totally different cultures, multiculturalism is a lie and BS spoken by fools. So maybe he was harsh, but he wasn't wrong as a human and as a part of alliance.
@@RavenShugo And if he did, Azeroth would have fallen a long time ago because Alliance sure as hell wouldn't have been able to defeat anyone alone
Not quite, he did actually go west to find Jaina and Lordaeron survivors. He just also happened to find the horde, and assuming they were the old horde he'd fought before, attacked them outright.
He was right to do that. The Horde proved themselves untrustworthy and evil over and over and over and over.
What is funny is that all of that detective work she asked the only obvious question: WHY? I love this one...
Little context and explanation:
Jaina's father, Daelin was always a traditional man who only cared about his nation and was filled with hatred towards the orcs as he fought n many wars against them and was seeing them as monsters.
Now Jaina, always wanted to be more liberated. From little kid she wanted to leave the nation, explore and study magic. Things that her father disapproved of but she did nonetheless. All of her life, Jaina was hoping to make peace between Alliance and Horde. One of her efforts for peace was to betray her father since he was a threat and was standing in the way. Thing that traumatized her but she found comfort as she did what she did for a great cause. Now, in the present where she found out that everything she did for peace have been in vain and she is lost and filled with so much grief (She has lost almost everything like her city, her friends, her loved one) she decides to go back to where it all happened and "fight" her past. That's what the cinematic is about. About Jaina finally looking back to the past, facing everything that haunts here and wanting to embrace it. She raises her father's ship and in the last scene you see Jaina more determined as she found a new purpose in her life. To have vengeance. That's why it ends up with the "Beware of me" line.
she went to try and make peace but he followed to try and order her to come home and went so far as to start the conflict that killed him. She stood aside to try and give peace a chance and let her father fall. Not her fault but the rest of the alliance laid such a guilt trip on her that it finally broke her and she walked away from the peace she was trying to create.
Another charachter along with Jainas father wanted to purge a city, and she did her best to stop her father without hurting him, and when she realised that he was a revenge crazy person, she didnt save him.
The original lyrics of the song were praise of Jaina, the current lyrics came after Daelin Proudmore's passing.
To be fair, Jaina lost everything that was dear to her. The first shot, in the ruins ? That was Theramore, the city that she once ruled. Nuked by the Horde, and Jaina snapped.
Daelin, her father, was of the older generation that witnessed the horrors of the Horde
Mass genocide across Azeroth (now known as Stormwind), mass killings in Hillsbrad, attacks on Quel'Thalas, coercing the betrayal of Alterac, but more personally, the death of his oldest son at sea to the dragons that the Horde tamed
It's no wonder that when he saw his daughter trying to play nice with the New Horde that not only did he find it suspicious, he straight up did not believe that they changed. That's why he says to Rexxar in battle that their kind will never change and he will never stop fighting them, because their changes cannot atone for the genocide they inflicted, the mass killings, and the suffering they brought with them when they invaded the land
I just realized in the last stanza that it wasn't just a random person saying they should beware Jaina. It says "an old voice warning me" which can either mean a literal old person or someone she knew from long ago. Fleets usually do not hire old people so it can't be one of the crew so I assume it can only be the admiral. We also knew from the first few stanza that the person who was crying beware is already dead, that and that the second to the last stanza said "beware the daughter of the sea" with his dying breath. So I think this implies that Jaina is being haunted by her guilt towards her dad.
The thing is that when the Father arrives at the new continent, Jaina had learned that the Horde wanted new peaceful relations with humans. The Father not knowing this (or caring tbh) saaw them as his old enemies and set about to fight them. When the Horde then comes knocking, Jaina has a choice, she can help her father or the new Horde. She chose to step aside and let the horde kill her father in the name of peace.
Now afterwards in the story, the Horde has proven to be a threat to her people and many others, through Nuking her kingdom to stealing powers of ancient gods and more. This has Jaina doubting wether she made the right choice back then, that maybe peace with the horde actually is impossible like her Father thought.
MURLOCS WILL STILL RULE ALL!!!!!!
also I love your stuff and I hope you get too pet a really cute puppy, keep it up!!!
This song is about the events that happen in Warcraft 3 the reign of chaos. So if you want to learn more about what happened in the lore. Look there.
The him in the song is jaina's father admiral daelin proudmoore and the daughter of the sea. She betrayed him because he attacked the horde unprovoked
You should watch the jaina in game cinematics. Showing her returning home and the guilt she has been carrying all these years. I believe there are 4 of them. I don't know the name of them. Maybe someone else in the comments knows. Jaina is my favorite WoW character. She has lost so much and she is a strong woman and strong mage!
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Here are jaina cutscenes
wow.gamepedia.com/Jaina_Proudmoore here is a good summary of Jaina's story and what she has gone through!
I love your reactions to world of warcraft and blizzard stuff in general! I hope you keep watching this stuff and if/when you play WoW I def wanna guild up and play too! I'm a massive lore nerd and love seeing new players enjoying the stories of WoW. I really enjoyed hearing your analysis of the lyrics. Since the events of this song take place in Warcraft III, the game preceding World of Warcraft, I'll write up a synopsis of what's going on here.
Warcraft III is about the return of the Burning Legion, an army of demons that have been trying to take over the world for thousands of years. In the game, the Kingdom of Lordaeron falls and Jaina leads the remnant of that to the western continent of Kalimdor to fight the demons off. In that battle, she teams up with Thrall's orcish Horde and the Night elves to defeat them. This song is about the events that follow that victory. Jaina sets up a city called Theramore near the Horde capital of Orgrimmar, and serves to keep the peace between the different factions. Then Daelin Proudmoore appears, Jaina's father. We learn that Daelin is the Admiral and also leader of their home, the island nation of Kul Tiras, and that Jaina has basically been fighting this war without letting home know about it. Daelin has been tracking his daughter across the continents, hearing of what she's been doing. Daelin also has a deep hatred of orcs, and disapproves of teaming up with them even against demons. He tells Jaina that he's taking command of her city and plans to use it to attack Orgrimmar. Jaina tries to get him to see reason, but he refuses to listen. So Jaina goes to Orgrimmar and warns Thrall. Thrall tells her that to save his people, he has to attack first. He promises not to attack her citizens or anyone who surrenders, but those that stand against him will be fought, and afterward, Jaina can have the city back. Jaina tries one more time to get Daelin to listen, but he outright refuses and a civil skirmish breaks out between the civilians and Daelin's army. Thrall's orcs take advantage and attack, sweeping through the city. Jaina leads those loyal to her out of the city, but by helping with the evacuation, she isn't there to stop Thrall from killing her father. Jaina finds her father's body on the battlefield and holds him, weeping "Father, why didn't you listen?" Which is the reference brought up in the song "I'm listening now, Father."
In Kul Tiras, Jaina is seen as a traitor, siding with orcs and other monsters against her own flesh and blood. To add to all of the pain and guilt Jaina feels, the song is one actually sung by Kul Tirans out of hatred for her, a dirge to those lost because of her in the eyes of her people. The melody of the song is based off of her favorite lullaby, which her father used to sing to her and which as a child she used to hum and sing when she was happy, an extra twisting of the knife to Jaina.
I hope that helped make sense of things and I hope that you continue to enjoy the lore of Warcraft. I certainly do ^-^
I find Blizzard retcon of the story interesting. Jaina did not just step aside in the conflict. She told the Horde about her fathers attack, helped the Horde get ships and told her troops to stand down while the Horde attacked. Then her last words with her father was to admonish him for not listening. She did not just passively step aside, he was actively involved assisting the Horde.
To give some depths to the story going on, jaina was set on a journey by the Guardian Medivh to head West to kalimdor to meet the "savage foes" to combine forces to fight a great a evil. The admiral (jaina's farther) was raging a war because of the hatred he had towards the "savage foes". Jaina tries to tell him to not fight them but the admiral refused and he died after ignoring jaina's council. The song is from the perspective of jaina's people. She wasnt a traitor her father ignored her council and she was deemed as a traitor since she was the only surviver of the sailors from her land. 😓 Anyways great video
Its so hard to communicate what you need to know to fully appreciate this cinematic. It's the next step of a character arc that is about 15 years old (starting in warcraft III reign of chaos (both in game, and in real life) and if you want to understand the actions of jaina's father, rather than simply treating him like an evil madman, then you need to have played the games before warcraft III and understand what its like to see the horde as an unapologetically evil faction.
You should really check out Jaina's Nightmare, Jaina's Visions, and the Pride of Kul'Tiras finale. In that order. It follows Jaina's storyline after reaching her nation of Kul'Tiras. I think there is a video out there with ALL Jaina cinematics in order.
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I love the fact that you are actually dissecting this. The lyrics and all. Most just watch it and were done with it. You however tried to understand it. Glad that you take reaction videos a step further.
Most people said what there is to say about what this story means. (And yes, it's interesting that you got the Kul Tiran view of the story). Now you are missing the best (for me) Warbringer... and i really love this one, but Azshara is absolutely amazing! And where you will be first introduced to the Old God lore! I really hope you like it. Awesome video as always ;)
I was about to leave a rambling essay defending Jaina's choices, but then I realized this video is a few years old, so you've probably already been caught up with the lore.
Instead I'll point out another interesting fact about Jaina's character, that I haven't seen many talk about: She was actually the first proper playable female character of the Warcraft games - the first or second games may have had a single mission involving either Garona or Alleria Windrunner, I don't remember - but Jaina was the first to get her own storyline, character development, and even played an integral part in the overall narrative of Warcraft 3 and the Warcraft 3 Expansion (which are the events that the song is referencing).
God damn Laura Bailey is such a great voice actor
There is a play on words in this warbringer. The “daughter of the sea” was in fact Jains’s title, but having watched Queen Azshara’s story, who would guess there was another. So Blizzard introduces a choice. Who is the REAL daughter of th sea?
Glad to see both your face and what you're reacting to at the same time again. Makes for a much better reaction.
Sorry to comment on an old video but at 12:00 the reason she betrayed her father was bc she had a peace treaty with the "enemies on the rise" and her father wanted her to use that treaty to lire them into a trap
The song in the video is a common sea shanty that the people have sung in Kul Tiras, Jaina's homeland, ever since her father the Admiral died. Jaina was attempting to pursue peace with the Horde on Kalimdor when her father showed up and, still seeing the Horde as the enemy, ordered his men to attack. Jaina, knowing that her stubborn, warlike father would never listen to reason and negotiate had to be stopped, stood aside and allowed the Horde's heroes to despatch with him. Later events transpire with a new, ruthless and power hungry Warchief of the Horde that make Jaina come to regret her choices.
probably the 70st person to comment. but jaina did sacrifice her family (dad/admiral) for a greater good. that is some deep shit. she & the son of orcs had to unite to fight a greater enemy, threatening all life there is. this shanty, made from a perspective with very less information is what makes this song so great. what a beautiful piece of music
The story behind Jaina Proudmore is huge. It goes back into the original warcraft 3 days from about 15 years ago IRL. She is one of the most back story rich characters.
This song is a prequel of what happened before world of warcraft. Watch Warcraft 3 Jaina's Campaign it answers all your questions. So this song is not a real mystery for the older players you just need to look up the lore of Jaina Proudmoore.
I'm loving how enthusiastic about the world's lore you are. I'd love if you could watch some of the in game cinematics for the Jaina Storyline. There's a ton of content that's only presented at key story points during the questing experience. Jaina's is one of my favorite moments in all of Warcraft; she's evolved so much as a character over the years, it's great seeing her story at the forefront this expansion!
Her father wanted kill all horde and attacked them when jaina as rules of theramore had piece with thralls horde and she kind of helped horde go against her father bcs he didnt believe horde changed there is whole bonus campain in warcraft 3 about this
Yeas finally you got to this video, Its the best wow video that isnt from in game.
That question at the start... Who did she lose..... If you only knew the sheer weight behind the answer to that question.
I havent delved too deep in the lore of the new expansion (still trying to get my lowbies up 😒) but from what I have gathered my personal Interpretaion is this:
Jaina found out about the horde and knew they would eventually pose a threat to her people, she wanted her people to join the Alliance. Her father said 'no,' so she ran away to fight with the Alliance against the horde. She is the daughter of the Proudmoore line, essentially the ruling power in their nation. Her father wanted her to stay at home incase the Horde attacked them. He wanted her to stay and defend their nation, instead she left for the warfront. Heloved her so much that he followed after her into the war and was attacked by Horde forces. She was so engrossed in her own fight she didn't notice her father needed her until it was too late. So now she is not only seen as a traitor, but also believed to have sacrificed her father in her lust for battle and was banished from her home under penalty of death. The part where she says 'I'm listening now, father" is her reminiscing how her father wanted her to protect their people, how they NEEDED her to stay to give them hope. So now, wiser and older, she is taking her father's advice and being a beacon of hope to her 'people' (I say this loosely as she WAS taken in by the Alliance after that battle.) So when she sings that last line, it could be interpreted as her father proudly announcing to the Horde that she is a force to be reckoned with or as Jaina threatening her enemies, telling them 'my own people fear me, you will learn why'.
Again I haven't delved too much into Jaina's lore but this is what I have gotten out of what I HAVE done.
(Please pardon the caps lock in place of the italics, I'm on my phone and my keyboard sucks 😧)
And now looking at the other comments I am realizing that my own interpretation of this is about as wrong as we can get. So.......................ignore me😑
Hi, something you should know her father and her Nation were pro war with the Horde. She was Pro Peace that is why she stood aside as she tried to promote peace.
Now do Warbringers Azshara and Sylvanas. Dig in deep with the lore of all the expansions there's soooo much to get into.
If I remember correctly you watch Critical Role, so I would like to inform you that the woman in the cinematic singing (Jaina Proudmoore) is voiced by Laura Bailey, Vex'ahlia/Jester in the show :)
Short story is that she stood aside because her father was fixing to commit an unjustified genocide
Kat is back on the WOW train and I can’t wait for new adventures to come for you 😊❤️
Honestly, while the expansion was hit or miss, the Jaina Warbringers video was definitely SO FRIGGEN GOOD.
To see more stuff about Jaina, watch videos on Jainas visions
Jaina is a woman filled with regret.
Yes, her father was revenge obsessed, but that's not the point.
It is because of Jaina's mercy and willingness to give the Horde a chance that she stood against her father when he wanted to kill the Orcs. It was partly due to her kindness that the Horde was established. She had the chance to stop the Horde in its infancy and didn't take it. Because she believed they deserved a chance.
And then the Horde - under Garosh's leadership - nuked her home city and killed her people. Jaina now - understanbly - blames her own idealism for the death's of her people. She blames both the Horde and herself for not having stopped them when she had the chance. All the sins that the Horde commits, she now takes part of the blame for. She had the chance to stop the Horde alongside her father and didn't. Now the Horde has destroyed her home and killed all theirin, and is currently at war with people.
Do I need to say more?
The song, apart from the last stanza Jaina added, is a Kul Tiran folk song - Kul Tiras being Jaina's home nation and "The Admiral", her father, is the supreme commander of teh Kul Tiran Navy and ruler of Kul Tiras, Lord Admiral Daelin Proudmoore. The events this song refers to are actually playable in full in "Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne", as part of the bonus Campaign "The Founding of Durotar" with Durotar in the "present" World of Warcraft timeline being the homeland of the Orcs on Azeroth.
Oh Kat...the layers of meaning that lurk in every scene of this video...
If you start Warcraft I do recommend one thing if you want to do more than one race do them together because once you get one of them up to level it gets pretty boring afterwards
I just love these short cinematics from blizzard. Regardless what u think about the actual game there cinematics are masterpieces (if ppl know the lore behind them.) This could possable be the most cryptic cinematic they have done unless u have played Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne´s bonus campaign. In that campaign she did everything humanly possable to try and save Daelin Proudmore´s life. Daelin constantly attacked orc camps without provocation from the orcs and Jaina begged him to stop multiple times as nobady wanted a war. Daelin was so consumed by hatred and rage to the orcs from when they were enslaved by the demons and compleatly ignored he´s daughters words. Eventually it went to far and Thrall hade no choice then to attack and kill Daelin to keep he´s own ppl safe. He dident raze the city he dident kill/enslave the population. After Daelin was dead the new horde just left the city alone. Jaina´s mother herself confirmes in a in-game vision she have that Jaina could not save Daelin from himself. There is probadly not a single caracter in WoW that have suffered so mutch hatred and sorrow as Jaina Proudmore. She watched her love (Arthus) be consumed by hatred and in turn turn into the Lich King, have her entire ppl announce her as a traitor, Have her own city destroyed by a mana bomb, getting betrayed in Dalaran by a group of bloodelfs and sentenced to death by her own mother in a face to face conversation. After all that it is miraculous that she have keept her sanity intact. After the mana bomb destroyed her city she did have a compleat rage outburst and captured multiple water elementals and was minutes away from erasing Orgrimmar of the map with a massive tidalwave. Unlike her father she did! listen to reson and stopped it as it would have killed countless of innocent, including! the entire alliance attack fleet that make land outside Orgrimmar in the Siege Of Orgrimmar raid.
Jaina Proudmore´s story is truly hearthbreaking when u realise what she have gone through and suffered in her quest for peace. #MiscatSquad #AllAgesofGeek
You should watch the battle for azeroth cinematics, but on the alliance side. You can learn more about Jaina Proudmore (Daughter of the sea)
Impressive.
You don't know anything about World of Warcraft but guess everything bout Jaina right?
Awesome.
Just can't wait for you stumble on the lore of the Horde.
You should read more about Jaina Proudmore. When you said that she must be carrying around so much pain. That is such an understatement to what the character has gone through and more importantly. What she blames herself for.
lol world of warcraft has been upon us for 15 years.
Solid video, an enjoyable reaction!
Jaina's story in this is... difficult, because her original decision back in WC3 where a lot took place she's presented as right for doing so, but due to the world and set up it feels more complicated than that.
This song is from the perspective of the Kul Tirans who have a very biased/incomplete view of how events took place. Obviously we know better because we had an omniscient viewpoint. It's simply just a propaganda song.
huh... you reminding me MJ from spider man home coming...
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weeeeeeiiiiiird...
The in-game cinematics give a brief overview of what happened. More than just this perceived betrayal, it kind of gives you her mindset and the choices that made her into what she is. You'd need to watch her Nightmare (Jaina's Nightmare) arrival on Kul Tiras (Jaina Returns to Kul Tiras (some versions have Nightmare attatched)),the Realm of Torment (Jaina's Visions), and Pride of Kul Tiras. Make sure to watch them in that order to get the timeline right. There are a few extra ones, (like what she used that ship for), but those are bonuses.
i have not played wow in years but with all the bars filled with attacks and stuff i doubt you can use a controller for it nonetheless love the reactions keep it up
You have to know that Admiral Daelin Proudmoore was a Veteran of the first and second war (alliance against horde). He held the Sea area which was vital for their defense to be able to hold their capital city of lordaeron. That's why he hates the Orcs. The betrayal part happens in the third war (Warcraft III Story). Jaina Proudmoore allies herself with the Orc Warchief Thrall to help repell a demonic invasion. After that she tries to maintain the armistice pact and her friendship with thrall, but then Daelin came to her City State of Theramore (which is a Harbor City State located in the middle East of the continent of Kalimdor). There he learned about her friendship with an Orc and started to lead attacks on these Orcs. Daelin thought that Jaina would help him in his cause, but Jaina was (up until 4-5 years ago (cause of stuff happening ingame)) trying to make a lasting peace between horde and alliance. That's why she stood aside and even opened the gates of Theramore Harbor so that Thrall may invade and slay her father. her last words to her father were "why wouldn't you listen" that's why she said "I'm listening now, father" in the shanty.
There is more to it but that's more or less the gist of it. Sorry for some grammar fails, I'm not a native speaker :D
You should start Jaina's Lore by the ingame "cinematics"/Lore Sections, so you have the context for atleast a bit of what happend, afterwards you need to go to WoW and atleast watch the Theramore Bombing to understand why Kul'Tirans are so afraid of Jaina. It's not only because of the "betrayal" of her Father.
Who did she lose ? Ha .. almost everyone and everything, including the love of her life (who became king of an undead army threatening all living beings on Azeroth in the process), her mentor (killed by the aforementioned former boyfriend), her father (whom she chose not to side with because he was a fanatic, misguided warmonger who didn't share her hopes of piece with the Horde) and the city she founded as a safe haven for human survivors (when said city got magic-nuked by the Horde ... the same Horde she sided with against her father , hoping for peace and an end to the neverending bloodshed between the factions).
Honestly, there are quite a few contenders in Warcraft-lore for this, but if i had to pick the single character that went through the most crap, Jaina would be pretty high up on that list.
Jaina has a very deep story and it would be hard to summon it up in a few sentences!
Jaina's brother Derek died to the Horde in the Second War IIRC, along with thousands of her fellow Kul Tiran sailors. So when Daelin saw his only daughter surrounded by Orcs, he would've gone mad with the very idea. In the end, Jaina let them kill him and told them how to sink his fleet for a chance at peace, and all she got in the end was her own nation branding her a traitor, and her town of Theramore destroyed by a mana-nuke years later by the then Warchief of the Horde (the wrecked city in the beginning, all her friends and followers died in the same spot her father did). So she became, understandably, very enraged against the Horde, and no-one seemed to take her words as seriously as they did the many times she went against everyone, even the King of the entire Alliance to sue for peace over all those years. So with all this, she raised her father's flagship, the pride of one of the most powerful navies in all of Azeroth, to make the Horde beware the Daughter of The Sea.
I used to play wow too, but then i took an arrow to the knee.....wait....wrong universe.
We need Thrall to be Warchief again, cuz so far we had a tyrant, then after a chill warchief who literally died shortly after, and now some crazy person who just wants to burn everything down. yep, Horde not looking too good lately but trust me all we want is a home ;-;
Activision... :(
Jaina wanted peace, her father the lord admiral wanted the kill all the orcs. Jaina tried to stop him....he didn't and died a fools death
Laura Bailey... your Jaina singing give me the chills...
(no pun int.)
xbox controller and WoW, you are a brave lady xD
Are you going to review the lyrics of the RWBY soundtracks like this too? Once you listen to the full versions of course. If that's the case I'm seriously hyped about it.
Also, I’m not sure if you knew this or not, but there are also Warcraft Books! Also, can’t wait for your Warbringer Azshara react. That one still brings chills!
@MiscatSquad Watch the Taliesin and Evitel video regarding this ... if you want the proper breakdown of this video and know the lore related to it to the fullest.. this one is the best out there.
This short in-game cinematic cut-scene should help you to understand the emotions that Jaina had to deal with during the events that lead to this song being made (which twisted the original song into one condemning her actions without knowing the full story of what had happened... only what they found out second hand).
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Theramore is a human settlement on Kalimdor the continent in the west. Jaina, comes from a sea nation and the admiral basically was the highest position of authority there. That is mostly a story told in Warcraft 3, and the song now is where Jaina found herself many years later in World of Warcraft reconsider her past decisions, and the story that happens then after she has risen the ship and returned home is great in the game. Go play it!
Also, play with mouse and keyboard, since that gives you much more precesion and thus is far better if one wants to have control that goes beyond a feeling because you have a controller in your hands.
The addon "Console Port" will let you play WoW with a controller.
Or better yet, get a Steam Controller, then you can play ANY PC game with a controller.
You can do that with any controller. I've been using Xbox 360 controllers and dualshock 3 on pc for about 10 years now. You don't need a steam controller to play pc games with one.
Hell, I even have an adapter for PS1 controllers that cost me around 5 bucks lol
If you have a console just download the drivers for its controller, plug it into the pc and start playing.
Edit: The only downside is if you're using PS controllers it will still show xbox input prompts but after a few mins you get used to it, triangle = Y, circle = B, etc
@@ragnar97 Xbox one controllers are the best to use if you have a computer made within the last three years because odds are it has bluetooth which will allow you to connect the cotroller wirelessly
You should see what she does with the boat in an in the game.
Say whatever you like about gameplay mechanics etc, but lore is very interesting.
my absolute favourite of the warbringers. mainly because of the song.
you heve to know the warcraft 3 storry for that ... it's actury really simple to understand her song, if you know the background
After 1y :
No she didn't betray anyone, her father wanted war while she wanted peace with orcs. His racism started a war which end his life,
Jaina didn't help him cause she knew he's wrong.
Why she listens now? After many years this war start by Sylvannas, and Jaina had enough now. She's a warbringer.
But this also quickly change, after she and Kultiran invade Zandalar, and King Rastakhan killed, another daughter lost her father.
Rastakhan was a good guy.
How can you forget Garrosh literally bombing her city?
@@uncensored008 yes
Garrosh is in Revendreth. He deserve it for the lost lives of Theramore.
That's what I explained here. Jaina lost her peace love at time to time. But she then change, forgive
@Pyromike
Ok you are obsessed with Kultirans.
Jaina wants to stop the war. Her brother killed in war. He died a war hero.
Jaina forget all hated and forgive everything. She's good soul.
Father is a racist, even before his son died, it only made it worst. He wants war.
King Rastakhan was a king cared for his people. So he was tricked by zul many times.
Rastakhan able to stop blood trolls until events in BFA. Book says the event is Jailor's plan to collect Loa souls in Zandalar. He did manage to take 2 souls.
If you have played horde campaign, it explains his personality in deeps. He's interesting characters
Idk why you people love war bringers than peace loving leaders. Are you people hunger for blood ?
People love - Garrosh, Sylvannas, Arthas,
People hate - Jaina, Anduine, Thrall, Bane,
@Pyromike
I defend the peace lovers as should be. Peace is the end of Warcraft. Even in game, I allied with peace.
You know when people cook crabs alive. Crab things it's fun until water start to heat up.
People think the wrong things are worth, until they realised what's worth in life.
I keep thinking of Elsa from Frozen when I see Jaina.
Jaina Proudemoore daughter of the lord admiral of a sea-faring nation that is known to have one of if not the strongest navy on Azeroth the world in which they inhabit. lady Jaina Proudemoore stood aside at the founding of her once beloved now ruins: the city of Theramoore, to which she let her father die so that a piece may be held between the Kul'tirans her people who were apart of a faction known as the alliance with the faction known as the horde. the ship raised is the Proudemoore the flag-ship of the entire Kul'tiran armada, which also happens to have been the personal ship of her father. the sword that held the necklace was supposed to be a memorial for her father, who she let die. As are all Kul'tirans she is a child of the sea though she is cursed by her people for what is seen as a betrayal of her father and ruler. previously before the death of her father she was in love with a character known as Arthas Menethil who would fall to the corruption of a cursed sword that had the ability to rip out your soul and devour it, after falling to said corruption the named prince Arthas returned from the arctic nation of Northrend Where upon meeting his father, the crowned king who was 84 years old, he shoved the cursed sword into his gut, killing his father. on hearing the state of her former beloved Jaina tried to reason with Arthas which resulted in heart-brake. fast forward a few years Jaina now stands and watches as her former loved slowly dies from an assault by the combined forces of the horde and alliance. On the final breath he draws his father materializes an takes him to the afterlife to which she watches and mourns not for who he became but who he was before hand. fast forward another few years and the new leader of the horde steals a magical artifact from dragon and uses it as a nuke to which he drops on Jaina's city of Theramoore from this action Jaina grows to distrust the horde when previously she sought to bring the two factions together. Fast forward a few more years and she returns to her home nation to which her mother the acting Regent for the country instantly sentences her to death for the betrayal of her father as well as her hand in his death. from here her mother after a few weeks of thinking and just wanting to have at least one of her children back (her decision made easier by the attempted coup of her most trusted advisor and believed friend) she decides to halt the charges on her daughter to hear the story of her father a war hungry man who was willing to kill innocents to destroy a perceived threat. on learning this she drops the sentencing and allows her daughter to become the Lord Admiral which brings home her brother from being trapped in a magical storm at sea, of which is only allowed to happen after she dons the silver anchor amulet that was on the sword in the beginning of the video. and there you go a brief slightly detailed summery of the story for the character known as Jaina Proudemoore.
i should mention that Jaina is a mage a pretty powerful one who was taught by yet another powerful wizard who was strong enough to enchant an entire city to bear near invisible as well as float high in the sky. The person she learned how to use magic from was actually one of the original people to learn magic from the elves when the horde first invaded from their doomed planet Draenor.
You should play the campaign of Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos and Frozen Throne, if you want to understand the lore!
jaina proudmoore is one of my favorite Warcraft characters ever. She would have made a great queen 😭
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The Admiral was her father
Not sure if anybody suggested this before but if you want to learn more of the lore go watch Nobble he does great videos about lore, this includes books, comics and the games
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Fun fact, Jaina raising her father's boat from the water is reminiscent of Arthas raising his frost wyrm from the dead.
Many of WoW's characters were affected by Arthas becoming the Lich King. You should watch cutscenes from the original Warcraft games sometime!
*Horse not frost wyrm
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It might be difficult to set Kat up playing WOW on an xbox controller. I dont think there are any 2 button classes in WOW atm, maybe holy priest and just ignore the healing. Experiencing the RPG content is pretty easy.
add on. i payd with my data. i do demand tears ^^
congrates for 60k subs👍❤
true story jaina doesnot pick side coz she with traal stop the war .... but hes father said do not trust the horde .... no war started again by silvana and she remember what father said thats all ..... now she think shes father die for her .. and the other voices in song who sing about father's death is just in head of jaina she talk with herself thats all ))))) she feel guilty
For anyone wanting to hear the full story of Jaina:
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