NFL & NBA MVP ROBBERIES

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  • In this video I look at 5 NFL & 5 NBA legends and see how many MVPS they were robbed of in their careers. It's the moment of truth people.
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  • @jus_nico
    @jus_nico 16 днів тому +312

    seeing barry showing actual brady highlights feels so wrong

  • @saiya2521
    @saiya2521 17 днів тому +561

    Barry slandering runningbacks? We are so back

    • @evanelliott1213
      @evanelliott1213 16 днів тому +35

      Barry Slanders, famous lions running back and UA-cam sensation

    • @crunchytoast6007
      @crunchytoast6007 16 днів тому +19

      Thank god a kicker didn’t win MVP or Barry would’ve blown up

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому +2

      OJ was such a killer RB. So sad he did. At least his Nicole Brown’s murderer is no longer on the streets though

    • @jamesburgess2k
      @jamesburgess2k 16 днів тому +2

      ​@@crunchytoast6007 look up the 1982 season lol

    • @crunchytoast6007
      @crunchytoast6007 16 днів тому

      @@jamesburgess2k thank god Dan Marino only entered the league a year after lol. Would’ve said a rookie Marino was robbed

  • @donleonard4446
    @donleonard4446 16 днів тому +145

    There is nothing you can say to convince me Ryan Tannehill is more valuable than Derrick Henry

    • @kelamullah1999
      @kelamullah1999 16 днів тому

      His passing stats were elite so no.

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому +37

      ​@@kelamullah1999but was that cause of tannehill or because the threat of henry forced teams to commit to stopping the run

    • @Mostillist
      @Mostillist 14 днів тому +8

      they made the playoffs with the first seed with henry hurt in 2021 tannehill gets injured in 2022 and they under .500

    • @kelamullah1999
      @kelamullah1999 14 днів тому +1

      @@Mostillist pretty much my take

    • @nathancarey208
      @nathancarey208 10 днів тому +2

      ​@Mostillist titans led the league in rushing attempts that season and ranked 6th in points allowed on defense while tannehill threw 21 tds to 14 picks. They also made it further in the playoffs with derrick henry than without him.
      Edit:titans ranked 25th in pass attempts that season

  • @Sheng-Li248
    @Sheng-Li248 16 днів тому +71

    The disrespect for AP has to stop. That man almost broke the all-time rushing record after coming of an ACL and MCL injury that should've ENDED HIS CAREER.

    • @timdecoursey287
      @timdecoursey287 16 днів тому +15

      And his QB was CHRISTIAN PONDER

    • @supirion1
      @supirion1 15 днів тому +2

      Running backs don't matter. Life is unfair

    • @dharmab0m
      @dharmab0m 14 днів тому

      Comeback player of the year, should've been for sure.

    • @dharmab0m
      @dharmab0m 14 днів тому

      Manning was coming off literal neck surgeries (5 i think) and took his team to the playoffs. Absolute robbery.

    • @Hydro00
      @Hydro00 3 дні тому

      Glad someone said it

  • @hennyboi516
    @hennyboi516 16 днів тому +60

    Imagine the level of stupid you gotta reach to convince yourself that a 26 PASSING TD season is somehow better and more valuable than a RB who scored 31 total TDs 😂

    • @BattleMachineX
      @BattleMachineX 15 днів тому +6

      I immediately stopped watching when he said that lmao

    • @aaronjackson9385
      @aaronjackson9385 15 днів тому +5

      Exactly..credibility is non existent.

    • @diehardnygiantsfan6569
      @diehardnygiantsfan6569 14 днів тому +10

      I’ve said it a bunch of times before but Barry’s videos prove QBs will win no matter what 🥴 Lamar’s recent season still would’ve won over 2006 LT imo based on the biased coverage of QBs in the last 10 years

    • @Nooneagrees
      @Nooneagrees 18 годин тому

      Bc most of RB tds come from the one yard line

  • @well-well-well-
    @well-well-well- 16 днів тому +37

    Barry keeps going back and forth on whether the MVP is the better player or the most valuable player.

  • @Theel25
    @Theel25 16 днів тому +104

    I still feel like the denying of RB's is really crazy.
    Modern NFL, yes, it's less needed as they are a lot more rotational. But even 15-20 years ago, a lot of teams couldn't survive without a 1000 yard rusher. Even with a shitty QB, they could do some great things. Saying Manning got Robbed of an MVP by running backs in like 2006 or 2012 is really really wrong. AP carried that sorry ass Vikings squad to a 10-6 record when their best QB was Christian Ponder, that's an unmatched category.

    • @jamesburgess2k
      @jamesburgess2k 16 днів тому +20

      He also came back from a torn ACL injury and ran for fucking 2000 yards the following year, not to mention how he literally dragged that awful Vikings team to the playoffs himself in the final game of that season.
      There were probably better players in the NFL, but Adrian Peterson absolutely deserved to win that award, especially considering his only argument is that "RBs should never win over QBs".

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому +11

      Facts while i agree with Barry's opinion on rb's for the most part i think a clear exception is when a rb pretty much single handily carries an otherwise suspect offense to respectability for ap with christian ponder as his qb and defenses loaded up to stop him and still go and put up the numbers he did is easily mvp worthy

    • @JoeHardacre
      @JoeHardacre 14 днів тому +7

      I feel like Barry's RB opinion is a bit of a gimmick at this point - he can't possibly look at multiple 2000 yard seasons, or Faulk going for 2000+ from scrimmage, and think those players weren't having an impact on their teams.

  • @StarvinLG
    @StarvinLG 16 днів тому +15

    Barry basically could've just said "i think a QB should win the MVP every single year" then got right into NBA

  • @imjoker2823
    @imjoker2823 16 днів тому +183

    Future QB Video Ideas
    -Is Flacco elite?
    -Is Big Ben a Hall of Famer?
    -Why Kurt Warner didn’t win more rings?
    - Nick Foles, the One Hit Wonder

    • @vengefulfork7169
      @vengefulfork7169 16 днів тому +6

      I’d call Nick Foles the three hit wonder

    • @RonBurgundy412
      @RonBurgundy412 16 днів тому +25

      No question that Big Ben’s a hall of famer… come on now 😂

    • @BridgeEntertainment2001
      @BridgeEntertainment2001 16 днів тому +2

      A flacco retrospective would feed families

    • @tpvn8377
      @tpvn8377 16 днів тому

      ​@@RonBurgundy412 if he is then eli manning is

    • @mikieroy3177
      @mikieroy3177 16 днів тому +11

      ⁠​⁠@@tpvn8377Big Ben was way better than Eli😂

  • @jimc.goodfellas226
    @jimc.goodfellas226 17 днів тому +268

    Speaking of trophies, GIVE REGGIE BUSH HIS HEISMAN BACK

    • @isambo400
      @isambo400 16 днів тому +11

      OJ TOO!

    • @Shooopdawooooop
      @Shooopdawooooop 16 днів тому

      Hey Yes Man, I told you to take out the trash!! You need to stop injecting robo marijuanas it’s making you a lackadaisical chump.

    • @matthewhyman2208
      @matthewhyman2208 16 днів тому +2

      @@isambo400dude he’s dead

    • @Toadally_Kozmo
      @Toadally_Kozmo 16 днів тому

      @@matthewhyman2208i know lets ask his ex-wife Nicole Brown

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому +18

      @@matthewhyman2208thankfully Nicole Brown’s killer is too

  • @mat6522
    @mat6522 16 днів тому +13

    peyton over LT in 2006 is the dumbest argument lol, we went 14-2 and he carried the entire offense

  • @funnyguppygaming5743
    @funnyguppygaming5743 16 днів тому +17

    Barry doesn't give a frig about the eye test

  • @__j20
    @__j20 16 днів тому +134

    0:36
    Sorry bro, but Jerry rice never won mvp, so Brees is nowhere close to the best nfl player to never win it

    • @chiarosuburekeni9325
      @chiarosuburekeni9325 16 днів тому +32

      That would have to be real talk tbh. Good post

    • @KingE34
      @KingE34 16 днів тому +19

      Drew Brees is prolly the most valuable player to never win mvp, but Jerry rice never won it, no lineman ever has, moss didn’t, no all time defenders except pave and Lawrence, etc.

    • @Alex-tc9np
      @Alex-tc9np 16 днів тому

      i hate when mf like you say “no where close” when it is close lmao
      Brees was elite and arguably top 10 all time at the MOST VALUABLE POSITION

    • @gavinmcclister6185
      @gavinmcclister6185 16 днів тому +1

      @@KingE34hey hey, JJ watt won it and hes an all time defender fs. Could have been the all time defender but he didnt have the longevity

    • @TC-cx4gm
      @TC-cx4gm 16 днів тому +2

      @@gavinmcclister6185JJ Watt didn’t win MVP

  • @whydoesthischannelexist421
    @whydoesthischannelexist421 16 днів тому +71

    Brees never getting MVP is a modern tragedy

    • @eyeconqueror1185
      @eyeconqueror1185 16 днів тому +6

      pretty dumb. saints got robbed multiple times in the playoffs too. and i’m a bucs fan.

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому +2

      @@eyeconqueror11852018. 2011 and 2017 a bad defense robbed us from advancing and 2010 and 2019

    • @Alex-tx2dh
      @Alex-tx2dh 16 днів тому

      He 100% deserves way worse for lying so much about bountygate. Mr. “I would say if there were bounties because I’m a QB and I care about league safety” can’t stop carrying water for the evil saints org and the government.

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 16 днів тому

      The best quarterback to never win an MVP is either Brees or Roger Staubach.

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому

      @@fortynights1513 Brees easy

  • @Mornings
    @Mornings 16 днів тому +6

    My glorious Lebonbon got robbed of MVP every year since the nba started even before being born

  • @MachineGunPhilly
    @MachineGunPhilly 16 днів тому +47

    I don’t know about that RB take Barry, OJ had a pretty *HUGE* impact on the NFL in the mid-90’s - and he wasn’t even playing!

  • @andrewvachon1943
    @andrewvachon1943 16 днів тому +6

    Can we all acknowledge how beautiful Kareems sky hook is, just perfect.

  • @1ThielenFan-qm1tk
    @1ThielenFan-qm1tk 16 днів тому +9

    The biggest MVP robbery was the 1982 season where kicker Mark Moseley beat out Dan Fouts

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 16 днів тому +3

      Yep. Undisputed biggest robbery, nothing comes close.

  • @AGoldenShow
    @AGoldenShow 16 днів тому +16

    Calling Peyton Manning more valuable while showing that both Ladanian Tomlinson and Shaun Alexander rushed for the same number of touchdowns for their teams as he threw, 31. And I’m sure they had less fumbles than he had interceptions.

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 16 днів тому +1

      Peyton had more combined passing and rushing TDs in 06, with 35, and had double the yardage both seasons. Who would you rather have Alexander or Peyton Fucking Manning?

    • @AGoldenShow
      @AGoldenShow 16 днів тому +5

      @@beam5655 31 touchdowns in 350 touches or 31 touchdowns in 650? I’m just saying, the QB position wasn’t as valuable as you make it out to be until pretty recently. If you think Phillip Rivers was more valuable to the chargers than LT, you might have more CTE than either of them

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 15 днів тому

      @@AGoldenShow LT was not more valuable to the chargers than Peyton was to the Colts. I'm not talking about Rivers. Peyton had DOUBLE the yardage and more TDs.

    • @JoeHardacre
      @JoeHardacre 14 днів тому

      It's not necessarily comparing one to the other, but thinking of what you could replace them with. Take Shaun Alexander off that Seahawks team, and you could probably get a decent running back (this was the mid 00s, they were everywhere) who puts up 1200 yards and 12 touchdowns.
      Replacing Peyton Manning with a 'decent' QB is much harder, cause there's generally only 20 reliable QBs in the league at any one time and there's only one or two that can throw for 35 touchdowns and not make lots of mistakes.
      Most RBs aren't marching you down the field by rushing 12 times in a row. Peyton could pass 12 times in a row and get you a TD.
      However, saying all of that, record breaking seasons deserve to be rewarded and I have no qualms with either of those players winning over what were pretty standard Manning seasons.

  • @L0veLYLAd
    @L0veLYLAd 16 днів тому +58

    Guys I think this guy is a LeBron fan…

    • @JoeHardacre
      @JoeHardacre 16 днів тому +4

      I mean he did say MJ should have like 9 or 10 MVPs as well

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 14 днів тому +6

      ​@@JoeHardacreBut says Jordan played against plumbers

    • @JoeHardacre
      @JoeHardacre 14 днів тому +2

      @@fica1137 I dont think it's much of an argument to suggest the overall quality of the league now is significantly higher than it was in the 90s, but it also works both ways in that everyone should have access to better players. It just means that now you cant really get away with a top heavy roster like you could in the 90s.
      The bigger thing for me rather than the plumbers argument is how the salary cap spike impacted the league in the late 10s. It should never have been feasible for Durant to join a 73 win team with multiple max players. Can you imagine if in 96 if Shaq just joined the Bulls.

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 14 днів тому +1

      @@JoeHardacre if Bulls owner was willing to spend more like Warriors do every season on luxury tax Shaq joining Bulls would have been feasible because Pippen and Jordan were grossly underpaid until Jordan got the biggest contract in history in 1997.
      Warriors were in similar situation with Curry who was injured before signing his contract. He was 60th best paid player in 2015 season while Jordan was 16th in 1995 season

    • @JoeHardacre
      @JoeHardacre 14 днів тому +1

      @@fica1137 the warriors barely paid any luxury tax in 2017, compared to now, because the salary cap spike was so big. Cleveland actually had the biggest.

  • @RonBurgundy412
    @RonBurgundy412 16 днів тому +10

    Not even a chance Brees deserved MVP over LT… he did deserve it over Peyton in 09 tho

  • @AlucardMM
    @AlucardMM 17 днів тому +81

    It’s still insane to me that Lamar Jackson almost won the unanimous MVP again with the season he had. You can make the argument he deserved the MVP, but in no way, shape or form did he deserved it unanimously. Brock should have gotten some votes at least. Hell CJ Stroud had an argument before he went down.

    • @gabrieldodds9081
      @gabrieldodds9081 17 днів тому +33

      What swayed this year's was that when Jackson and Purdy faced off, Lamar went off, and Purdy played like dogshit

    • @KW_SPORTS_WWW
      @KW_SPORTS_WWW 16 днів тому +21

      Josh Allen and CMC were 100x more valuable to their team than Lamar was

    • @AppleGuy256
      @AppleGuy256 16 днів тому +5

      It's the QB of the year award these days unfortunately

    • @AlucardMM
      @AlucardMM 16 днів тому

      @@gabrieldodds9081 I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to win I’m just saying the fact that he was so close to winning unanimously even though it was a tight race until that game that happened at the end of the year is insane. Also, one week should erase the rest of the entire year. He could win but there was no point where he was 49 to 1 good.

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 16 днів тому +1

      @@AppleGuy256not even that. It’s the QB with the best record award

  • @MAKxRaMpAgEx
    @MAKxRaMpAgEx 16 днів тому +8

    As a Steelers fan, I’m contractually obligated to state that TJ Watt was in fact, robbed of the DPOY

  • @thunderhawk358
    @thunderhawk358 16 днів тому +78

    Embiid winning over Jokic was highway robbery where tf is that comparison

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 16 днів тому +30

      Why does everyone pretend like Embiid didn’t also have an incredible regular season? They were both incredible, the tie breaker was a combination of voter’s fatigue, Kendrick Perkins, and the desire to see Embiid win at least one MVP.
      Now if MVP was a playoff award, then you might have a point.

    • @NathanMoon-tz2jp
      @NathanMoon-tz2jp 16 днів тому +25

      @@sprawlz6466Kendrick Perkins is the reason why Embiid won. Jokic was the clear favorite betting wise until that segment with Perkins came out

    • @eden6314
      @eden6314 16 днів тому +3

      It wasn’t that much of highway robbery that was actually mad close I’m ngl

    • @sprawlz6466
      @sprawlz6466 16 днів тому +8

      @@NathanMoon-tz2jp well Embiid also got better as the season went on. His MVP push came a little later. He was the best player in the NBA for the last 2 months of the regular season

    • @tajmula671
      @tajmula671 16 днів тому +8

      @@sprawlz6466jokic averaged a 25 point triple double on 70% ts with every advanced analytic suggesting he was in fact the best player in the league so yea it was highway robbery

  • @hepwo91222
    @hepwo91222 16 днів тому +11

    you sort of did Magic indirectly when compared to MJ. But Bird would have been an interesting one, he won 3 MVP's but finished 2nd 4 times!

  • @jenius-9581
    @jenius-9581 16 днів тому +49

    In Hardens year, he was definitely the most valuable player 😂

    • @JohnFKennedy313
      @JohnFKennedy313 16 днів тому +7

      Lebron was insane in the playoffs but that rockets team was dominant in the West while the Cavs struggled all year in a bad Eastern Conference

    • @gamingsquad2326
      @gamingsquad2326 16 днів тому +36

      Yah basically he tried his hardest to give lebron more MVPs than Jordan cause he’s a massive lebron fan

    • @willsmath
      @willsmath 16 днів тому +3

      Harden should've won at least 2 MVPs if not 3

    • @woketv781
      @woketv781 14 днів тому +1

      4 tbh​@@willsmath 15, 17, 18, and 19

    • @fica1137
      @fica1137 14 днів тому

      ​@@willsmathOver Westbrick easily, but Giannis was playing DPOY caliber defense while also being a beast on offense.
      And 11 FTA is ugly

  • @bwennan_5211
    @bwennan_5211 16 днів тому +3

    Barry is finally back to nba content

  • @NFace23
    @NFace23 8 днів тому +1

    Barry being biased for LeBron is a character plot twist I didn't expect

  • @GrayGamer
    @GrayGamer 16 днів тому +7

    Heisman robberies: 2018 Tua Tagovailoa. Only lost because he would play half a game, go up by 50 and let backup Qb Jalen Hurts get some playing time.

    • @CalebWayneMcCready
      @CalebWayneMcCready 16 днів тому +2

      I hate bama with every ounce of my being but Tua 1000000% should have won the Heisman that year.

  • @Liam-zu3yz
    @Liam-zu3yz 12 днів тому +3

    The year elway won MVP he had 19TD to 12INTs. Jerry rice had 23TD in 12 games and over 1000 yards easily the biggest robbery

  • @aaronwin33
    @aaronwin33 16 днів тому +4

    Based on the definition of the NBA MVP it always goes
    1) best story
    2) best player on best team
    3) actual MVP
    Points deducted for repeat winners, points given for first time winners
    Based on that media definition, pretty much every MVP deserved the exact MVPs they got

    • @Jiffy0
      @Jiffy0 16 днів тому

      Bingo! it's the exact same way in the NFL. I'm just surprised most fans haven't realized that these awards have always been based on media narratives

    • @aaronwin33
      @aaronwin33 16 днів тому +2

      @@Jiffy0 which is why using MVP's to rank players doesn't mean as much as people think, it's media members voting on storyline/likeability first and foremost. Need to look at every MVP with context

  • @greyklopstock7155
    @greyklopstock7155 16 днів тому +17

    Ehhh, idk, Lawrence Taylor was pretty freaking valuable. Dude was good enough to carry the giants to two super bowls. The guy single handedly made sacks a recorded statistic cause he got so many

    • @benscott6801
      @benscott6801 16 днів тому +5

      bro be sounding slow sometimes idk what he be talking about

    • @epictorres96
      @epictorres96 16 днів тому +5

      That's where I also disagreed with him and I'm positive that those 23 interceptions held Marino back from winning MVP

  • @masterxploder5160
    @masterxploder5160 16 днів тому +10

    Idk about some of these takes. I feel like we gotta see this the way JJ Watt said it: there’s the “best player”, and then there’s the “most valuable player”. D Rose in 2011 is 100% more valuable to his team than LeBron was to his. All we gotta see is what happened the year after to see how valuable he really was. Sorry but facts are facts.

  • @donleonard4446
    @donleonard4446 16 днів тому +21

    The AI mvp being more of a robbery to Shaq than Steve Nash winning an mvp over Shaq has to be one the hottest of hot takes

    • @ethanrobinson9475
      @ethanrobinson9475 16 днів тому +4

      i think a lot of people agree with this

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 16 днів тому +4

      Nash over Kobe, Lebron, or Dirk is still the biggest robbery ever.

    • @ianstratton
      @ianstratton 14 днів тому +1

      The only thing Iverson robbed Shaq over was that final MVP vote in 2000 that would've made Shaq the first unanimous MVP.

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 14 днів тому

      @@ianstratton there's been so many MVPs in that should've been unanimous that I honestly don't give a shit about whether they were unanimous or not. Shaq's should've been, but so should've some of Wilt's, Kareem's, Bird's, and Jordan's.

  • @-Comet.
    @-Comet. 16 днів тому +2

    I love how hard you fought to give Lebron more MVPs than Jordan, elite narrative pushing is necessary when the stats don't do it

  • @johndennis6449
    @johndennis6449 16 днів тому +2

    Here's one to debate: Johnny Unitas over Sonny Jurgensen in 1967. Sonny set the NFL passing yards record and led the league with 31 TDs (a lot back then). He also led the league in pass attempts (and completions) while also leading the league in interception rate (when it was harder to avoid picks). He was also second in sack rate (although those pre-1982 sack stats are a bit spotty). Unitas had a better completion percentage and was second in yards, but threw only 20 TDs with the same number of INTs (16).
    However, Jurgensen went 5-6-1 with a defense that ranked 11th in points allowed, while Unitas went 11-1 with a defense that was 2nd in points allowed.
    Food for thought.

  • @Weed.eater_
    @Weed.eater_ 16 днів тому +28

    I love Barry but his videos make me so happy he doesn’t have an MVP vote 😭

  • @acebizr1827
    @acebizr1827 16 днів тому

    I’d love to see this type of video with other awards. Especially DPOY

  • @taysonjatum2209
    @taysonjatum2209 16 днів тому +30

    Kobe did not get robbed of 2006 MVP is was Dirk. Dirk led the Mavs to 60 wins being the only all star on the team and led the league in WS, WS/48, OWS, PER, OBPM. Was 2nd BPM. 3rd in VORP.

    • @eyeconqueror1185
      @eyeconqueror1185 16 днів тому +8

      Kobe stans are the worst.

    • @rjmacready9828
      @rjmacready9828 16 днів тому +11

      Respect for dirk but leading kwame brown, smush parker, and luke walton to 47-35
      35 ppg
      And first team all defense >>>>>>>>>>> dirk

    • @beam5655
      @beam5655 16 днів тому

      He's only comparing directly with the MVP winner. They are "could've won" MVPs. Kobe could have won that one, even though Barry thinks Lebron should've. So basically could've vs should've, Barry is talking about could've.

    • @adamxo.
      @adamxo. 16 днів тому +5

      ​@eyeconqueror1185 making a argument for our fav player is bad? Just agree to disagree brother

    • @fortynights1513
      @fortynights1513 15 днів тому

      @@rjmacready9828Was Odom on the 06 team?

  • @thecrazynodak
    @thecrazynodak 16 днів тому +1

    Barry showing actual Tom Brady highlights? He must be very sick, the real McCockiner would never!!

  • @1227weaverb
    @1227weaverb 16 днів тому +2

    I’m a Lebron fan but no way he deserved MVP over Harden. He definitely turned super saiyan in the playoffs but just based on regular season production and team success Harden deserved that.

  • @donnyg9993
    @donnyg9993 13 днів тому +2

    Harden earned that MVP. In fact, he was robbed in 2015 and 2017 as well, arguably 2019 as well

  • @YoutoJo56
    @YoutoJo56 16 днів тому +2

    Respecting the grind Barry! You may not see this but just know we’re proud of you and your hard work. Theres a reason you have this many subs

  • @thetexanshurtme
    @thetexanshurtme 16 днів тому +4

    Rodgers absolutely stole an MVP from JJ Watt who put up the best defensive season ever

  • @The-Basketball-Gods
    @The-Basketball-Gods 16 днів тому

    Babe wake up Barry dropped more nba content

  • @jeremythomas8569
    @jeremythomas8569 16 днів тому +1

    They just need to make a Cy Young award for QBs already so they can start giving MVPs to the players who actually are the best players in the league that year not just by default the hottest QB w/the rare RB.

  • @dbzfan4evermj233
    @dbzfan4evermj233 16 днів тому +1

    Barry should do top 10 greatest coaches of all time or top 10 greatest teams for football and basketball

  • @imjoker2823
    @imjoker2823 16 днів тому +1

    Do The Best Franchise Player (Non QB) From Each Team Next

  • @the6thpackbrewbuck
    @the6thpackbrewbuck 16 днів тому +2

    I feel like you could include 2016 for Rodgers and Brady

  • @Neo_Hawk
    @Neo_Hawk 16 днів тому +1

    Love watching this channel as a Brady/Kobe fan😂

  • @ftdaj
    @ftdaj 16 днів тому +1

    That's what I like about Baseball over the NFL. Outside of Starting Pitchers, which have their own MVP category with other pitchers, no position is generally more important or just a slam dunk for MVP every year. One year it will be a Right Fielder, then a Shortstop, then a Catcher. I like it that way. Everyone has a chance. Obviously some positions get more attention such as Shortstop, but it can still be won by everyone. But tbh, Catcher is the most important. A bad catcher will ruin your defense.

  • @g.williams2047
    @g.williams2047 16 днів тому

    More vids like this please!

  • @karlliebknecht2987
    @karlliebknecht2987 2 дні тому +1

    People really want to have Kobe Bryant in the GOAT conversation when he deserved 0 mvps. Only the GOAT of 2003 Colorado hotel headlines

  • @imjoker2823
    @imjoker2823 16 днів тому +21

    Brees should have 4 rings from 2009, 2011, 2017 and 2018 and 3 MVPs from 2009, 2011 and 2018 and was robbed because of his defense

    • @jemjohnson5315
      @jemjohnson5315 16 днів тому +2

      As a saints fan mahomes more than deserved the 2018 mvp. 2006 and 2009 were the Brees he was the best qb, I think LT keeps 06 tho. Barry saying manning should have 06 is absolute blasphemy tho, Brees balled that year and was 1st team AP for a reason

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому +1

      As a Saints fan Mahomes deserved it in 2018. The voters love the QB on the team with the best record, so Brees got the most MVP votes that year, but 2009 he should have won, and I would have voted him over Rodgers in 2011. I would have also gave it to him in 2008.

    • @markengelmeyer1467
      @markengelmeyer1467 16 днів тому +1

      In no world did Brees deserve MVP in 2018 over Mahomes 😂

    • @julianbell9161
      @julianbell9161 16 днів тому

      As a Giants fan, you can’t take 2011 from me. Maybe don’t give up a touchdown to SF with like 0 seconds left next time.

    • @sportsfanatic123
      @sportsfanatic123 16 днів тому +1

      ​@@julianbell9161 He said "because of the Saints defense"
      Also that 2011 ring is a Kyle Williams away from not happening

  • @charlesbrown2011
    @charlesbrown2011 16 днів тому +2

    Scottie pippen missed a lot of time in 1998, that's probably why MJ won it

  • @MMMAXIMO
    @MMMAXIMO 16 днів тому +1

    lol Barry part of the undervaluing of RBs

  • @JamesWilliams-xi6un
    @JamesWilliams-xi6un 15 днів тому

    Enjoying more nba content keep it up nfl is my game but we all enjoy sports of most types

  • @ashsherod6321
    @ashsherod6321 16 днів тому +3

    I understand hating James Harden, but he won that MVP in 2018 fair and square. I'll give him that one season and that's it.
    I hope he never wins a ring or gets to the All Star Game ever again, inshallah.

  • @corbinhulsewe
    @corbinhulsewe 15 днів тому +1

    I feel like you could have a 4th category for players who deservedly did not win MVP but were good enough to win it nearly any other year like Brees in 2011.

    • @michaelalexander5350
      @michaelalexander5350 15 днів тому +1

      Brees is so unlucky.

    • @GarrettHampton2004
      @GarrettHampton2004 15 днів тому

      People think MVP is about stats, it’s not, it’s about how valuable a player is to their team, Rodgers lead the Packers to a 15-1 record, brees didn’t

  • @IgnoringPhDvideo
    @IgnoringPhDvideo 15 днів тому

    What happened to the round 1 preview video?

  • @dillenpeace5602
    @dillenpeace5602 11 днів тому

    more nba content please. nash gets a lot of slander for his mvp seasons but its a good tell for those who weren't tuned in to the nba those years the suns played such great team basketball with nash running the show and their matchups with kobes lakers in those playoffs were just as exciting if not more than the proceeding finals imo. but im not glazing i get why other players w better stats may have equal or stronger cases for mvp those years. similar to the better record bias in the 90s

  • @OneGrungDM
    @OneGrungDM 10 днів тому +1

    Just remember, anytime Barry mentions Brady, he’s going to hate him. And anytime he mentions Lebron it’s all just praise. So take any takes on these 2 players with loads of salt

  • @MenverMan
    @MenverMan 16 днів тому +1

    Jokic got robbed last year, Should be 4 straight MVPs this year

  • @darrenXparker
    @darrenXparker 16 днів тому

    Do NVP robberies next!

  • @mrkoolaidism
    @mrkoolaidism 16 днів тому +1

    The argument of LT not winning that MVP because QB is more important is so dumb i cant tell if its satire. LT that year was on the best team in the NFL surrounded by not a single reciever with a thousand yards. Hell LT by himself had half of the recieving yards of antonio gates the number 1 pass catcher of that team. The chargers without LT that year would have been abysmal and thats literally what an MVP means. Its most valuable player not most valuable QB. Today's league makes sense for that thought process due to the running game being nonexistent for the most part outside of henry and mccaffrey, in 2006 however running the ball was as important as passing

  • @CheekyNandoo
    @CheekyNandoo 14 днів тому +1

    Coming out hot with a nuclear fire take. Immediately lost me with the LT take

  • @K-Dot94
    @K-Dot94 16 днів тому +1

    How is there no argument kareem didn’t deserve some of those mvps when he literally missed the playoffs

  • @slappydoodle
    @slappydoodle 16 днів тому

    Barry only gives us bangers
    B grateful ya sacks of wine

  • @ramtheman8044
    @ramtheman8044 16 днів тому

    Woulda been interesting to see how Wilt would look with this criteria.

  • @mariocardenas1833
    @mariocardenas1833 10 днів тому +1

    Literally, no one says that kobe was robbed of 5 mvp's. 99% of us agree that he should have 2, maybe 3 if you're pushing it

  • @JanstonCordell
    @JanstonCordell 16 днів тому +4

    MVP is a marketing award; It's not about the player's value to their team, it's about the player's value to the popularity of the league.

  • @fraseroliver17
    @fraseroliver17 14 днів тому

    JJ Watts MVP snub angers me to this day.

  • @DSPHistoricalSociety
    @DSPHistoricalSociety 16 днів тому +6

    How does Barry not see Lesbron is the biggest grifter of all?

  • @JB-vu7ib
    @JB-vu7ib 11 днів тому

    Jj watt getting snubbed in 2014 was a travesty, I still think about it till this day

  • @sirbradfordofhousejones
    @sirbradfordofhousejones 16 днів тому

    The word “valuable” is so subjective they I don’t think there’s a common understanding amongst fans who truly deserves the award.

  • @davidlogan201
    @davidlogan201 16 днів тому +1

    Same some for Savannah. Harden and DRose both deserved those MVPs Harden could arguably have 3 or 4 himself. The Bulls that year were not projected to win as many games at they did and the fact Boozer and I think Noah were injured and still had more wins than the Big 3. If the shoe was on the opposite foot and he was in DRose position you would make that argument 10 times out if 10

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому

      Yup and this is my gripe wit vron fans avout 2011 if the roles were reversed and Bron carried a sorry roster to relevance putting up great numbers while doing so onlt to lose the mvp to another player putting up great stats on a super team bron fans would probably still be complaining till this day hell he mentioned harden in 2018 had KD been given that mvp in 2018 over vron lbj fans woyld have rioted

  • @fresherthanyoutrickshots5779
    @fresherthanyoutrickshots5779 16 днів тому +2

    obviously harden isn’t better than lebron james. literally nobody is except for jordan(maybe idk). but, like cmon, harden obviously deserved mvp that year. he lead the rockets to the first seed in the much stronger(at the time) western conference with 65 wins, while lebron only led the cavs to the 4th seed in the much weaker(at the time) eastern conference with 50 wins. also, harden literally had a higher WS and WS/48.

  • @JTT1993
    @JTT1993 10 днів тому +1

    Brady definitely should’ve gotten MVP in 2021 let’s be forreal lol

  • @ozyssah
    @ozyssah 16 днів тому

    another day another video underrating aaron rodgers' 2016 season

  • @matthewskinner6626
    @matthewskinner6626 16 днів тому +2

    The football half of this video is just pure bad takes. It's like you've become one of those casuals who know everything about the qb but don't know sh*t about the other positions.

  • @theninjaofmusic
    @theninjaofmusic 14 днів тому

    That 2nd half of Petersons MVP season is the most dominant stretch by any running back ever. He was averaging like 200 yards a game on 5-6ypc with Christian Ponder under center and 9 or even 10 man box most plays. It was a just unreal stretch of football and actually carried a pretty dog shit Vikings team to the playoffs.

  • @do_yohomework
    @do_yohomework 16 днів тому +1

    D Rose better no one who slanders him ever mentions the fact he was like 3 years removed from high school and Bron was at his athletic peak

    • @taysonjatum2209
      @taysonjatum2209 16 днів тому

      Worst MVP in modern NBA history. LeBron easily deserved it. He wiped the floor with him statistically and even in advanced metrics.

    • @solaireofastora922
      @solaireofastora922 16 днів тому

      ​@taysonjatum2209 Stats don't change team success, D Rose may have had worse averages but he brought his team to the 1st seed despite key players being injured, it's called most valuable player, not best player of the year

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому

      ​@@taysonjatum2209lebron was also on a super team with a second option who put up stats similar to the mvp winner that year despite all that rose still led his team to 60+ wins and the first seed in the east over miami to make it more clear the man LEBRON JAMES himself when asked acknowledged rose deserved mvp this whole rose 2011 nonsense is one of the biggest non arguments in sports right now

  • @Tigerz58_prod
    @Tigerz58_prod 16 днів тому

    Video idea: the benefits of having a gunslinger vs a pocket passer. Basically Josh Allen vs Joe burrow types of qb.

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому

      A gunslinger can also be a pocket passer tho look at peyton manning or dan Marino

  • @kjo2130
    @kjo2130 16 днів тому +2

    Why do you act like go alone rushing TDs are easy? Those are the hardest to get.

  • @DenniDownBad
    @DenniDownBad 16 днів тому +24

    Barry you've convinced me on a lot of things, but in no universe will you convince me that Derrick Rose didn't deserve the MVP over LeBron James in the 2010-2011 NBA Season.

    • @shubtakesdubs5395
      @shubtakesdubs5395 16 днів тому +16

      Rose literally won more games without 2 hall of famers on his squad and 2 starters in Boozer and Noah both missing significant games. There isn’t an argument for Lebron it’s literally just lunacy.

    • @taysonjatum2209
      @taysonjatum2209 16 днів тому +1

      @@shubtakesdubs5395 Dude that team was good because of their defense. In fact those years he was injured the Bulls still managed to be a top 5 team in the east. When LeBron left the Heat missed the playoffs.

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому +4

      Factst this man rose dragged a team with his two best big men hurt for most of the season and his best player being luol deng to 60+ wins and the number one seed in the west and this is my thing with bron fans he is sayin all this about rose's season but we all know if the roles were reversed and they gave the mvp to rose even tho he played on a stacked team while vron carried a trash roster to relevance the argument would be completely different for example if kd got mvp or lebron in 2018 levron fans would have rioted

    • @johndavis9321
      @johndavis9321 16 днів тому +5

      ​@@taysonjatum2209while yes those bulls were always good defensively they were only elite and seen as contenders when rose was the engine to the offense the bulls staying competitive after rose's injuries is really more a testament to the east being weak and the emergence of joachim noah and jimmy vutler more than anything also once bro. Left the heat they had to deal with a bunch of injuries if bosh and wade are healthy that heat team is a playoff team in the east

  • @wakkawakkagaming3710
    @wakkawakkagaming3710 16 днів тому +10

    This is a goofy take I know, but I genuinely think Brees not getting MVP love was partly height bias. I think because he was shorter and looked a little smaller in his pads, he got some conscious or subconscious side eye from the old school types like Elway who like big, statuesque QBs.

    • @anthonyrozewski2486
      @anthonyrozewski2486 16 днів тому

      Interesting... How tall are you?

    • @jamesburgess2k
      @jamesburgess2k 16 днів тому +4

      No. As a Saints fan, it's because of Sean Payton. Everyone knew he was great, but because of the pass happy offense he was in, people would constantly discredit his numbers as they assumed the system he was in was boosting his stats.
      Only after he retired and everyone saw how you couldn't just plug anyone into that offense and have them throw for 5000 yards is when we saw everyone suddenly say how "underrated" Brees was.

    • @stinkyboy101
      @stinkyboy101 16 днів тому

      @@jamesburgess2kI think it’s a combination of what you said, the historically awful defenses holding his record back, and the fact that the Saints just don’t get much attention from the media even when doing well. As a falcons fan I rate Brees a lot higher than most people and I’m sure most fans of NFC south teams that had to see him twice a year in his prime would as well.

  • @ohbaby4life
    @ohbaby4life 16 днів тому +1

    Brady should have been 2020 Mvp

  • @geezyeskabante
    @geezyeskabante 16 днів тому +1

    Drew Brees has zero MVPS?

  • @CYMotorsport
    @CYMotorsport 3 дні тому

    Except lebron never beat Drose a single time that season on a team that won the east with 60+ wins. It’s one of the more weak contrarian takes re: mvp robberies. Eager to hear the nfl ones though haha let’s see if running backs are a sticking point

  • @Hydro00
    @Hydro00 3 дні тому

    I feel like LT with 1800yds 28td is def deserving of his mvp over manning as good as his season was. Won't really mention the AP disrespect cause I'm prolly biased being an OU fan😂 Still enjoy the content tho, keep it coming

  • @regularnormal
    @regularnormal 14 днів тому +2

    i think im tired of this guy

  • @burakaslaner_underfeels
    @burakaslaner_underfeels 14 днів тому

    Where is the nba playoff prediction video

  • @williamtoad8040
    @williamtoad8040 16 днів тому +1

    I swear Rodger Goodell and the NFL hated Brees and the Saints.

  • @emoo.182
    @emoo.182 16 днів тому +2

    Marshall Faulk put up over 2,000 yards and 26 tds a record at the time in JUST 14 games..if you remember back in that time Marshall Faulk was reffered to the best player in the nfl. Marahall Faulk willed the rams to the playoffs that year. In a must win game in new Orleans he put the team on his back with 236 yards and 3 tds. How is that not mvp?

    • @someperson3883
      @someperson3883 16 днів тому

      Then they lost to the Saints in the game that actually mattered the next week

    • @emoo.182
      @emoo.182 16 днів тому

      @@someperson3883 not his fault tho we all know if hakim didn't fumble the punt return the rams would've went down and scored and win

    • @emoo.182
      @emoo.182 16 днів тому +1

      @@someperson3883 and Peyton Manning didn't do shit in that playoffs either..and isn't MVP a regular season award?

  • @shanerisk1293
    @shanerisk1293 16 днів тому +2

    Barry I get it dog but like there’s other positions other than QB

  • @latarribell4152
    @latarribell4152 8 днів тому

    Ah, off to a bad start, I see. Brees over LT? Nope. Still, love your channel.

  • @brycetheoddball
    @brycetheoddball 16 днів тому

    Calling James Harden a grifter is hilarious but true.

  • @UmHmm328
    @UmHmm328 4 дні тому

    Only 1 MVP for Shaq? Didn't know that.

  • @raspberryxlemonade
    @raspberryxlemonade 16 днів тому

    Brees not winning in 09 was ridiculous

  • @samuelhannabass6297
    @samuelhannabass6297 11 днів тому +1

    LT and Jerry Rice are the two best football players of all time. LT is the goat olb