He already made the classic apology post 'I'm totally appalled at the response to this message, I've been working for healthcare and it's different! It wasn't a real scenario anyways! Guys please...please" Yet that was ONLY for the post that mentions the candidate questioning overtime. Not for the one about 'he didn't see his parents so i didn't hire him'. Classic 'I'm only sorry because I got called out'.
“Candidate showed up for interview with me and had all the academics, experience and ability necessary for the position. When I asked ‘do you want a water’ and he accepted so I rejected. When job candidates aren’t proactively seeking caffeine than they are likely not willing to be sales ninja and customer service rockstar 25/8 while also balancing family and promotions.”
@@streettrialsandstuff heard that BS before, I'd be happy I miss a company like that. If you are interviewing someone, they're showing up as a guest, I'd never ask a guest to clean the dishes, and would actually insist that a guest does not do so. Says a lot about a company if they cannot even treat someone they're interviewing with basic courtesy.
When a manager starts acting like an @$$hole with me, I just tell HIM (it's usually a guy), "you know what, you're right. I'm not good enough for you, so goodbye", then hang up or shut your laptop on them.
@@mitri5389 This statement seems racist but it has a point. If you live in third world nations, like me. Those kinds of A type personality, psychotic go getters think that they are better than the countrymen, because they work in a big company with high wages relative to their countrymen.
Cause nobody wants to work for pennies anymore. Inflation has made cost of living more expensive by about 10% overall yet companies aren't increasing wages 10%.
Been applying for jobs for months. Every week I submit about 20 applications. Don't hear from most of them. When I do get a response its always, "We're looking for someone with a different skill set". I check all the points in the job post but still... I hope they never find their unicorn.
@@eezyville1704 I'd ask them what skills are they looking for before they even get to that point. If you don't fit Walk away if you think it's a crap job or not worth the money. I myself put in about 10-12 apps a day and im having similar issues. Now I just ask up front in the phone interview.
@@HH-le1vi Hey man I'll start doing just that. In the job post they have a list of shit they want. 4 different frameworks, 5 languages, 12 soft skills. So I apply. I don't think they know what they want.
As a discord moderator who interviews to allow other users to become moderators, I expect 60hours/week commitment minimum and to be called Sir with every sentence
Exactly, so true!! What he's really looking for is someone with no backbone. Someone who stays around toxic people and allows himself to be their scapegoat.
He wants to have more to hold over the employee. "Oh, you want personal time? But you have to work to take care of your family. If you take time off we'll have to have someone else do your job and maybe we'll just keep them instead." Everything is about leverage. They want absolute loyalty from disposable minions.
I'd ask the question every time, if I don't get selected or make the interviewer upset because I asked the question I know that is not the right place to be working.
@@meee2014 HR people will be the S1 shop for the Bolsheviks when they attempt their grãñdé revolutioñē. Good thing we'll be allowed to axe them then, it'd be unacceptable right now.
I was once interviewed in a startup where the CEO openly bragged about overworking and underpaying engineers. So yeah, this is the norm in India. Labour laws are non existent here.
As an Indian, I am happy that there is someone who is pointing out the absolute shit that is the work culture in my country. This is in my opinion one of the biggest reasons why my countrymen move to the west for work. As you rightly pointed out, the corporate overlords here have no value for your time, and expect you to be working whenever your manager gives you a call.
It’s appalling how these CEOs exploit vulnerable people (People who don’t have the tag of a good engineering college) …. No wonder we are the most depressed country in the world
@@twinblade02 Since you politely asked, I will answer. I've been in I.T. for over 30 years. Tried management, but really couldn't deal with why Bobby and Suzie weren't getting along (I just don't care! Do your f'n work!). In the course of those 3 decades I have literally interviewed hundreds of people for tech positions. I am being generous by saying the the India candidates were 4 times as likely to lie on their resumes. Some to the point that it was just humorous to interview them. In the last 5 or 10 years, I have noticed that the non-Indians have resorted to lying as well, just to get past the H.R. firewall. Resumes were at least useful 20 years ago. Now, they are a joke. The other reason Indians have ruined I.T. is through shady back-filling practices. Probably worked with 20 or 30 different offshoer/onshore Indian "consulting" companies (when you find a good one, btw, pay the 10 or 15 more per hour for them! They are worth the difference). While companies like PWC or Anderson Consulting (not in business, now) would back fill with lesser talent. Most of the time, they were up-front with it and cut the raite. Not so with the Indian companies. Some will even back-fill with a just out of college kid for a very senior position without even being ashamed. So, there are two of a half dozen ways I think Indians have ruined I.T.
I called out an HR lady who BOASTED about having rejected and interviewee for his looks. I told her it's ilegal in our country and the she said "oh it was the attitude".... Many such cases on LinkedIn in fact. Sad.
Another one said he rejected the applicant after he asked how long the interview would be. He got roasted by hundreds of people but would stand his position
You guys really waste your time on that website ? I only use it when I change my job. I thought that was its only function. Now I see that people also post messages there ? lol
I'll never forget a job interview I had where the manager interviewing me set me down with an employee because he had to "step out for a minute". As soon as the manager left the employee immediately asked me about my religion, my sexual orientation, If I had kids, a wife, ect. I thought to myself "could you make it any more obvious you are asking for management".
that sounds illegal like, even if the employee's not "supposed" to be the interviewer, they're still effectively acting as an agent of the company. there might be some exception written into the law but I would seriously doubt it. otherwise companies could just say "okay interview over" and then just ask these things anyway
Hi Joshua, u r doing phenomenal job of exposing these idiots. Don't listen to people who in name nationalism says u r targeting a nation. U r just targeting some stupid people(they deserve it)in a nation. Kudos! Love from India.
I was in an interview years ago where I was asked how many kids I have. I replied with "how many guns do you own?" The recruiter paused and was like.. uhm.. that's not a relevant question and honestly pretty personal. I said: I feel the same way.
That's always a tricky question. Some companies want to know if you don't have kids so you are "free" to work long hours and work on weekends. And in the other hand, some companies here in Mexico for example, ask that question so they can know if you have someone dependan on you so they can pay you less and constantly remind you "Hey, you have a family to feed, so do what I ask without any hesitation".
@@carloscortes1577 In the U.S., they can't legally ask how many kids you have or your marital status at an interview. I'm not sure about the laws in Mexico.
This has been a legally-prohibited employment question in the United States since the 1970s, and could result in the interviewer being sued. However, the potential employer can legally ask you to fill out a W-2 form prior to hiring you, where you specify the number of dependents. It's a good idea to politely walk out of interviews like that, because you know nothing good will come from them. The employer doesn't need to know the number of dependents until you're entered into the payroll calculations for net pay after you're hired.
These sorts of questions are probably just best answered with "My marital status/number of kids/desire to have kids etc will have no bearing on my ability to do this role"> If they push then it's time to end the interview
Keep up the good fight Joshua, some of this is dehumanizing. It's a bad attitude to ask how often you'll be working overtime and establishing boundaries? Thank you for calling this out and making people think about it.
Man...... My last company expected constant overtime in an engineering setting and never paid a single dime in pay, meanwhile management and ownership drive maseratis and give themselves massive bonuses. They are a constant revolving door and had a ton of trouble replacing me, I wonder why.....🤷 Anyone who gets rejected by this guy dodged a bullet 100%
asking about family matters during an interview is very much illegal in the US. The person can file discrimination charges against the interviewers business with the EEOC especially considering he weighed those questions against him. These were questions asked by his own admittance that kept this person from being hired. Not only should he apologize, he should hope he doesn't get himself or the company he works for sued
@@drownword Yeah in this case he asked about overtime, not family matters. Otherwise, how are you going to prove what happened between two people in a private room? I don't know what law you're referring to that says its illegal to ask about family matters, but it seems very un-enforcable.
The perfect Attitude : I will do anything you ask and work overtime without pay every single day and get work done before deadlines and ask for a demotion to save the company money, because I care about the company culture and it matters more then my time with my family or there well being and my ability to provide for them.
I was interviewing with a company that said it was "expected" that I be in the office 60 hours a week minimum and to also come in on Saturday mornings. I told the hiring manager that we could stop the interview early because I no longer was interested in the company. They seemed surprised lol. There is a big difference between being expected vs. being willing when something needs extra time. If you "have" to be working 60 hours or more every week than either 1.) you're an idiot that does know about efficiency or 2.) the company is not staffed correctly. There is no gray area in that.
@@simonebernacchia It was a salaried position. Hard pass. What is funny is that other internal recruiters keep messaging me. It's the gift that keeps on giving because I get to say no immediately which really confuses them why I wouldn't even be interested at all.
I was fired because I messaged in group chat to my boss in front all of my colleagues that I'm no longer willing to work on weekends. And I will say goodbye if they ever force me again (because regularly working on weekend and public holidays become so normal during 8 months that I almost didn't see my son and wife) and my boss replied that my behaviour damaging the business and spoil company reputation. This is was my last working day at that company. I did mistake I never ask about over time and working on public holidays and weekends during recruitment process previously I worked as freelancer with this company and didn't face such issue until I become full time employee.
I totally agree, I had an interview and asked some basic questions about salary, benefits, the team, and day to day schedule. The interviewer didn't know nor made any attempt to find out. This raised a red flag for me, but I told myself that I needed the job. When I got the job, it was horrible, with an excessive amount of employee turnover and no organization. I wasted a lot of my time and energy being there and quit within 3 months. Always ask questions people.
And pass when you get that feeling or being slapped in the face it’s going to be a shitshow. Being out a job a bit longer is better than going through this heartache.
If I drink coffee I will be able to work more intensely for my employer but I will also have to go to the bathroom more often. To drink the coffee or not to drink the coffee...Will they not care about me working harder and punish me for going to the bathroom more often...
Every time the "work-life balance" question comes up, I have absolutely no idea what they're expecting as a response. "I work during work time and do whatever else in my off time". That's the best answer I got. What more is there to this?
"How do you feel about work-life balance?" "I feel that people or companies that ask about work life balance have specific expectations that they should clearly state from the outset, so that only those candidates with matching expectations would present themselves for consideration. Doing things any other way indicates that the person or company does not have the integrity to stand by what they expect, in which case it's better not to ask."
CEO complains that this guy doesn’t provide for his family, yet wants his employees to spend less time with their family by working over time. Recruiter logic
you don't get it! the question is about what is his weakness, which usually is family, because we chose to live with them or we have gratitude towards them. the question actually is: "can you be a slave so that your family will live?"
I've tried using recruiters in the past. They are absolutely useless. Never got me a damn thing beyond really shitty interviews with really shitty companies.
They just want to sell the jobs off. Desirable companies have plenty of applicants, it's the shitty ones that need recruiters to package and sell their jobs
I got one job with the most toxic company, they were terrible as people and expected a lot of overtime at the drop of a hat all the time. Worst experience of my career.
I once interviewed for a startup for a machine learning role, he was literally giving me 2-3 seconds to answer a question before moving on to the next question. Then he asked me a question...how do you find the number of permutations of 3 objects with the help of machine learning. At this point I literally started laughing. Then he told me that they need someone who had knowledge of chips and PCB design also along with machine learning. At this point i just hung up as I had more important things to do.
The irony is: While the recruiter is still searching for someone else, that candidate they refused has probably already found another occupation. That's how the current job market is in my country, but they won't tell you that in interviews!
I've been hired on my way home from the first interview. I've been rejected 9 months after my first interview. I still get calls today and it's been 14 months since I last looked for work. The second you're done talking to them forget they exist. Most companies that put out job ads don't have a vacancy anyway, they just leave the ad out there for years on end. If you're lucky one day someone will leave and they will legitimately have a vacancy, then they'll pull their list of the last months job applicants and definitely hire one no matter how weak the cohort.
That interviewer is a mess. It takes more strength to get rid of toxic family members than it does keeping them around. Just because we share DNA doesn't give you the right to walk all over me. I'd hire someone for not staying around toxic family members because it shows that they have a certain awareness: you can't change people who aren't self-aware of their behavior.
Recruiters are in no place to judge people they are scum of the earth, that's like a used car salesman passing judgement on someone who didn't want their 3 months contract job paying 12/hr
That's harsh. I recruit for tech companies in Europe and work hard to get my candidates as much salary as possible while guiding them how to impress and pass interviews. My candidates are grateful, keep in touch and when they're ready to move we go again.
The guy that didnt get the job for not being there for his parents, probably spends his time focusing on his work and if its true then he would be a perfect candidate for that senior position. So that post is total a BS lie.
I met so many recruiters, and some were absolutely clueless and and on some sort of powertrip. The worst are the ones trying to conduct a technical interview with crap they found on the internet, not even relevant. In the old days of activeX one actually asked "why would you use an OCX instead of an OCA". Yeah, not only an idiotic question, but even more stupid when you interview someone for an Assembly and C job. He never called back, got the same job via a different more competent recruiter shortly after.
Joshua.. This interview in different context actually happened... I answered a question about what I do with my free time I told interviewer "I do whatever I want" it's nobodies business
Man sometimes I just wish I was born somewhere where there's humanity. Y'all cant imagine the shit I have to deal with working as a software developer (that too a self-taught one) here in this shithole of a country where I live. And then there's my dad to add insult to injury who worked in IT for 25+ years in the middle east by bragging about how ethical a certain multinational company treated its employees.
@@MonsterJuiced Thanks man. I'm actually doing quite well for myself in terms of pay considering the local wage standards and my current skill level also considering I've only started my career less than an year ago (joshua's videos really played a huge role). But pay isn't the only factor, working with these companies is not an enjoyable experience. I just plan to get a remote job or maybe move elsewhere once I reach a respectable skill level.
-Do you like programming? -I make it for the living. -How do you feel about working overtime? -How many times a month? -What do you do on your free time? -None of your business. -Who are the people, that inspire you? -Josh Fluke. -Yeah, could've guessed.
I was unemployed for most of last year. If I had interviewed with this guy and found out about this post later, I would rip him and his company a new one on Glassdoor and any other site I could find. Though in some ways I’d be glad that I didn’t get the job, because who in their right mind would want to work for him or his company?
This is why it is so important to have a fully funded emergency fund. Instead of desperately accepting a job from goons like this out of desperation, it gives you several months to find something less exploitative.
whats the deal with employers doing a phone interview and two in person interviews for a job that only pays 10$ screw that not wasting my time jumping through hoops for a job that pays peanuts no wonder they cant find people to work... oh and I forgot about the personality survey
Exactly. As the employer if you are not preparing for and adjusting to emergencies, then you are bad at managing your business and yours should be the position up to be filled.
Those questions are typical outside of the US, especially in Asia and India. Reminds me of interviews where they ask "Are you willing to work nights and weekends?", where the only "correct" answer is yes.
This is why I want to leave the country. Working 8-9 hours, 5 days a week is a dream considering the fact that I have worked 14-16 hours per day before quitting my last job due to exhaustion. Indian Work Culture is super toxic , even worse than Japanese Work Culture and guess what , even my parents are a victim to it ( they boast about working 12-14 hours inspite of being 50+ years old ) . Master's abroad is expensive so that won't work out for me and I guess killing myself shall work out the best ( Several Indian IT workers kill themselves or die due to overwork but it's never covered ) . I would say that Karoshi is more common in India than in Japan .
Attitude matters indeed - what a jerk! The candidate is better off with a different employer. I hope this recruiter and his company will soon go out of business. Economy is there to serve the people - not the other way around!
The whole art of interviewing might as well be called the art of discrimination because that is basically what is going on. Forget your credentials, all they care about is if you seem likeable enough for them to work with you. Most people can learn to be proficient at work with on the job training. Most degrees are actually useless
Interviewer: "What's your evening schedule like?" Interviewee:"Unavailable." Interviewer: "what's making it unavailable?" Interviewee: "Every night, at the end of my availability, I go home, Shower, And then put on my best suit. Then I spend the next fifteen minutes driving to my lawyers where we have very long, hypothetical discussions on how I should sue nosey employers who demand to know what is happening in my private life...." Interviewer: " Okay, I think we're done here..."
Joshua, as someone that worked in recruitment for 10 years, I would be interested in doing an "insider" conversation referring to a recruiter and corporate mindset. I've had that mindset and I'm looking to move into tech to move away from it. I'd prefer to be anom though tbh
I have been telling these employer's how rediculous they behave. And, how I like the idea of redistributing their wealth. It really changes the dynamics of the social structure.
They want to know if a person has a family to see if they can hold them hostage with the pressure of providing for families and know that the candidate will take the overwork because of it.
Not sure what country this guy is in but in Canada these are illegal questions and you would definitely get sued for it. Posting it online would only serve as evidence, so not a very smart move. But I'm guessing this interviewer is not in Canada. Sad ☹
not on good terms with dad still lets dad pay tuition still depends on dad's friends for business mentorship (he would have literally doomed Zip2, "X.com"/PayPal and Tesla if it wasn't for one of his dad's buds telling him he has to stop the retarded narcissistic management) still a trust fund baby let's not forget his mom had her own jet as a fucking model
If I were this recruiter’s boss he’d be out of the job in a heartbeat, you should be looking for people capable of doing the job not people that you personally like.
In my experience lately, it’s better to interview with the actual hiring manager whenever you get a chance vs the recruiter/talent acquisition person. It’s more authentic and they seem to have a better connection usually because they’re in the same industry or closely related and can relate better in type of work and collaboration.
It has been my experience up to now that when you are being asked anything involving overtime, the meaning is that you will do overtime all the time. At which point is no longer overtime, but regular working hours. Always ask them what do they mean as overtime. But Josh, you really got worked up there. more then usual, thought not without cause.
If i was in an interview where they keep questioning about my family i would try 2, maybe 3 times tops to steer the convo to my relevant skills, experience etc. After that its just a lost cause.
Makes me think of The Godfather: “You spend time with your family?” “Sure I do” “Good, because a man who doesn’t spend time with his family can never be a real man?” 🤣
@@HebrewHammer1337 In my experience, coming over as "insecure" during an interview can result in the recruiter doubting your skill-set or competences, therefore refusing you. Today's workforce counts a lot of heads suffering from an apparent form of 'the Dunning Kruger effect'. Looking at some people I know in management, the whole corporate world is based on the 'fake it, till you make it' principle. The most incompetent people get hired because they come over as very confident, while competent people don't get hired because they're lacking confident. I won't be surprised that your lack of confident is actually that what's holding you back, while you're actually very good in what you do. I always recommend people who are bad at interviews to sign-up for some job openings they really don't want, as a warm-up. Once you're at ease during an interview, that's the moment you can start signing up for the job's you really want to have. In the beginning this may feel like you're wasting those recruiters their time, while in reality they don't give about the outcome and get paid either way. They're actually wasting your time when they refuse to give you the job, especially when they refuse you after a second interview. PS: 1) People like humor, you don't have to act like a clown but answering a question or two in a funny way shows that you're probably a nice person to work with in a team. 2) If they let you wait for 15 minutes on a chair prior to the interview, then don't just sit there looking apathetically at a wall but talk to someone instead or take out your phone and browse a bit on the internet. 3) If they offer you a coffee during an interview and it's a warm summer day, ask for an ice cold water or soda instead, it shows that you know what you want and are not afraid to ask for it. 4) Before the pandemic you could only visit 1 or 2 interviews a day, now during the pandemic you can plan 3 to 6 interviews a day trough video-call (if you ask for it). You can even ask for an interview during your lunchbreak without taking an offday, just tell your colleague that you forgot your lunch and go sit in your car on some random parking lot (I've done that) and make sure the interview ends in time. It's currently the perfect moment for job-hunting, so go for it!
@@simonebernacchia Before noon I also prefer my coffee hot and pure, without sugar or milk and from fresh beans (no pre-grind nonsens). After noon (especially on hot summer days) I prefer cold drinks such as water or soda. As embedded hardware/firmware dev I also have to limit my caffeine intake after noon, or I wont be capable of holding a soldering iron or connecting jumper wires without shaking them all over the place. Especially when soldering 0402 resistors or capacitors (Size: 0.04 x 0.02 inch / 1.0 x 0.05 mm) for prototyping the caffeine induced shakiness becomes an issue... After a bad night of sleep I'm somehow still capable of consuming 6 to 8th cups before noon, on average it's more around 2 to 4 cups...
I literally did this when I was interviewed at my current job. My interviewer didn't seem off about it because I understood there would be some but I asked what is typical and what is seasonably typical for their company. It is an unpredictable market I explained to her. 3 years later and high turn-over and things I had talked to management and upper management (as well as other coworkers) they are actually looking into resolving turn over and over time. The work culture is changing in many industries. And a lot of companies are trying to figure it out. People are willing to work over-time but not kill themselves with it anymore. If you cannot change you will see your doors closed before you know it. I was in management so I understand how it is. I always had to push and push for employees and my coboss and me covered for people just to keep them content with life happens sometimes you cannot work the load. We tried to all work it around and help out. If only most companies did this. Now most companies are closing their doors and it is always the same boomer logic that people just do not want to work. People that spend 12 hours for your interview process and paperwork want to work but they WILL NOT KILL THEMSELVES for any wage they will work for less pay to survive than kill themselves for a little more money. There is a big culture shock coming out of this pandemic and people younger are not going to settle for bs anymore.
I once interviewed for a job at a carpet cleaning company. The guy who interviewed me asked me a lot of personal and unnecessary questions and even berated me about my handwriting. A week later I was offered a job, needless to say I didn't take the job offer, that interview told me everything I needed to know about what kind 9f employer he would be.
It’s hilarious how these recruiters show their arrogance. How foolish he will look when people refuse to go after the crap jobs he’s recruiting for. In today’s world I’m finding myself desiring a job that respects my time above all else. If I put in extra time it is because I want to and have interest in the work. A company that tries to exploit your time at their will is one I don’t have patience for anymore and it seems more and more people are feeling the same way. Soon enough these companies will realize that in order to keep and hire anyone it will be essential that they respect their employees.
Sadly from the company name it looks like it takes place in India where they might not have labour laws like in the West. I'm mixed and I see this same attitude from people around hear and it's extremely disheartening because they're doing cultural practices I have no idea about - I'm born in the West. I applied for a regular Apotex job in North America, and the interviewer asked me which "caste" I was from, to which I told him I was not familiar with that word. I had to google it at home, only to find out it's their kind of medieval feudal system they use which was supposed to be phased out, but terrible people still use it, it seems. I told them their discriminatory practices in a survey, but I doubt they read it or care.
Interviews have nothing to do with how working in the company will really be. I would have given the desired answer "of course I would", and then rejected the offer if given because the question itself was a giveaway as to the company attitude. The recruiter isn't going to share any true information about downsides of the company.
It's terrifying that this manager got so many likes for those myopic and pompous posts. So can we infer that there's a decent percentage of managers and recruiters with the same lack of discernment as this guy? If so, being accepted into any position based on merit is like rolling a dice.
I'm glad there are recruiters like Vikas. These guys are huge red flags who tell the candidates that the company sucks and wants you to work overtime without extra pay. No good company ever says that shit in the interview. For statements like these are really useful in filtering job opportunities. Thanks Vikas.
Wait a second...wait a second...so, the same guy who rejected a candidate because he simply asked how often working beyond hours was expected, rejected another candidate didn't meet the recruiter's family expectations (hadn't seen his parents in three years)??? What if candidate one needed to know how often longer work hours were needed BECAUSE of his family obligations? Make it make sense! This General Manager is inconsistent in his logic. This is why I hate searching for jobs and interviewing. You can be weeded out for the most trivial of things by the most trivial people. Ugh.
He already made the classic apology post 'I'm totally appalled at the response to this message, I've been working for healthcare and it's different! It wasn't a real scenario anyways! Guys please...please" Yet that was ONLY for the post that mentions the candidate questioning overtime. Not for the one about 'he didn't see his parents so i didn't hire him'. Classic 'I'm only sorry because I got called out'.
Lol
It's easy in India for employees to force overtime on you.
Also LinkedIn is garbage.
The video is a little quiet, fyi.
@@stankolodin5586 taking the interns bucket away then
Joshua Fluke can't manage his own family, how can he manage working a job ???
Huge respect for standing up for the little guy Joshua. You are a true hero.
“Candidate showed up for interview with me and had all the academics, experience and ability necessary for the position. When I asked ‘do you want a water’ and he accepted so I rejected. When job candidates aren’t proactively seeking caffeine than they are likely not willing to be sales ninja and customer service rockstar 25/8 while also balancing family and promotions.”
Oh snap, is this a copy of a new post on this guy's Linkedin?
this sounds too real, I forgot for a second that it was a joke.
No shit, I read a story that starts like this and ended with "after having the coffee the candidate didn't clean his cup, so we rejected him".
@@streettrialsandstuff heard that BS before, I'd be happy I miss a company like that. If you are interviewing someone, they're showing up as a guest, I'd never ask a guest to clean the dishes, and would actually insist that a guest does not do so. Says a lot about a company if they cannot even treat someone they're interviewing with basic courtesy.
Best comment
In a way people he rejects are blessed ... I feel terrible for people he does not reject LOL
Exactly! They definitely dodged a bullet there!
Golden words
When a manager starts acting like an @$$hole with me, I just tell HIM (it's usually a guy), "you know what, you're right. I'm not good enough for you, so goodbye", then hang up or shut your laptop on them.
You can tell this dude is full on power trip and loves “rejecting” people for jobs and then thinks he is heroic for it.
The guy is delusional sheep, following corporate protocols.
That’s exactly what it is.
this people is the weakest
he is a India what do you expect?
@@mitri5389 This statement seems racist but it has a point.
If you live in third world nations, like me. Those kinds of A type personality, psychotic go getters think that they are better than the countrymen, because they work in a big company with high wages relative to their countrymen.
"Why is there a labor shortage? Why won't these lazy bums go back to work?"
Ask HR.
Cause nobody wants to work for pennies anymore. Inflation has made cost of living more expensive by about 10% overall yet companies aren't increasing wages 10%.
Been applying for jobs for months. Every week I submit about 20 applications. Don't hear from most of them. When I do get a response its always, "We're looking for someone with a different skill set". I check all the points in the job post but still...
I hope they never find their unicorn.
@@eezyville1704 I'd ask them what skills are they looking for before they even get to that point. If you don't fit Walk away if you think it's a crap job or not worth the money. I myself put in about 10-12 apps a day and im having similar issues. Now I just ask up front in the phone interview.
@@HH-le1vi Hey man I'll start doing just that. In the job post they have a list of shit they want. 4 different frameworks, 5 languages, 12 soft skills. So I apply. I don't think they know what they want.
@@eezyville1704 yeah, someone who is good enough with 5 languages that they can use them to make money is pretty rare
This recruiter is the type of guy who is also a Discord moderator and expects respect from everyone
what's his full name? he should be cancelled lol. Heard they don't have a safety net in india. he might starve a bit after becoming homeless, great.
Those are the worst
@@Hallo81398 Vikas Chawla
As a discord moderator who interviews to allow other users to become moderators, I expect 60hours/week commitment minimum and to be called Sir with every sentence
-He does it for free
He want you to be in touch with your family, but at the same time doing extra hours whenever he wants? Is he expecting us to break quantum mechanics?
Exactly, so true!! What he's really looking for is someone with no backbone. Someone who stays around toxic people and allows himself to be their scapegoat.
Even if I could break quantom mechanics, I won't do it to do his work.
😂😂 yes
Recruiters don't even know how to spell quantum
He wants to have more to hold over the employee. "Oh, you want personal time? But you have to work to take care of your family. If you take time off we'll have to have someone else do your job and maybe we'll just keep them instead."
Everything is about leverage. They want absolute loyalty from disposable minions.
"You shouldn't be punished for asking this question." Not being this guys employee sounds more like a reward to me lol
I'd ask the question every time, if I don't get selected or make the interviewer upset because I asked the question I know that is not the right place to be working.
i get the wibe from the look from interviewer whenever i say the words "work life balance".
Companies be telling you that you’re part of a family then sell your soul to the Flying Dutchman for 62 cents.
62 cents
Ararararar
CEO: "Why did you reject him?"
HR: "It's because his description of his wife was not accurate #Attitude"
And the man said "that's not a horker, that's my wife!"
hr people are the scum of society.
@@meee2014 aggggreeeee most useless creatures in existence ^^
@@meee2014 HR people will be the S1 shop for the Bolsheviks when they attempt their grãñdé revolutioñē. Good thing we'll be allowed to axe them then, it'd be unacceptable right now.
I was once interviewed in a startup where the CEO openly bragged about overworking and underpaying engineers. So yeah, this is the norm in India. Labour laws are non existent here.
There are laws, but no enforcement.
@@rajanlad Yeah, that's the funny thing about laws. Without anyone doing something about them, it's really just suggestions.
@@rajanlad So... in effect, it is lawless.
@@squ34ky yes and na , depends if you have money
Lol so is good code.
As an Indian, I am happy that there is someone who is pointing out the absolute shit that is the work culture in my country. This is in my opinion one of the biggest reasons why my countrymen move to the west for work.
As you rightly pointed out, the corporate overlords here have no value for your time, and expect you to be working whenever your manager gives you a call.
It’s appalling how these CEOs exploit vulnerable people (People who don’t have the tag of a good engineering college) …. No wonder we are the most depressed country in the world
Unfortunately, your Indian counterparts have effectively ruined the I.T. industry as a whole in the U.S.
@@mikesmith6838 Employers don't have a quota for Indians. If you didn't get a job, it means that there are people who are better at it than you.
@@mikesmith6838 why do you think that exactly?
@@twinblade02 Since you politely asked, I will answer. I've been in I.T. for over 30 years. Tried management, but really couldn't deal with why Bobby and Suzie weren't getting along (I just don't care! Do your f'n work!).
In the course of those 3 decades I have literally interviewed hundreds of people for tech positions. I am being generous by saying the the India candidates were 4 times as likely to lie on their resumes. Some to the point that it was just humorous to interview them. In the last 5 or 10 years, I have noticed that the non-Indians have resorted to lying as well, just to get past the H.R. firewall. Resumes were at least useful 20 years ago. Now, they are a joke.
The other reason Indians have ruined I.T. is through shady back-filling practices. Probably worked with 20 or 30 different offshoer/onshore Indian "consulting" companies (when you find a good one, btw, pay the 10 or 15 more per hour for them! They are worth the difference). While companies like PWC or Anderson Consulting (not in business, now) would back fill with lesser talent. Most of the time, they were up-front with it and cut the raite. Not so with the Indian companies. Some will even back-fill with a just out of college kid for a very senior position without even being ashamed.
So, there are two of a half dozen ways I think Indians have ruined I.T.
I called out an HR lady who BOASTED about having rejected and interviewee for his looks. I told her it's ilegal in our country and the she said "oh it was the attitude".... Many such cases on LinkedIn in fact. Sad.
Another one said he rejected the applicant after he asked how long the interview would be. He got roasted by hundreds of people but would stand his position
You guys really waste your time on that website ? I only use it when I change my job. I thought that was its only function. Now I see that people also post messages there ? lol
@@visancosmin8991 people post their private lives there too, it's lame. I've been job searching lately and that's how I came across these.
@@visancosmin8991 WTF I never knew this either.
What the hell
when the recruiter rejects someone for that kind of question, it is not simply a bullet dodged, it is in fact the bullet dodging the candidate
I'll never forget a job interview I had where the manager interviewing me set me down with an employee because he had to "step out for a minute". As soon as the manager left the employee immediately asked me about my religion, my sexual orientation, If I had kids, a wife, ect. I thought to myself "could you make it any more obvious you are asking for management".
I would report that to better business interview.
that sounds illegal
like, even if the employee's not "supposed" to be the interviewer, they're still effectively acting as an agent of the company. there might be some exception written into the law but I would seriously doubt it. otherwise companies could just say "okay interview over" and then just ask these things anyway
Sorry but why do they ask these questions and why is it problematic?
@@SirDella would you like your employer filtering you through your sexuality or familial status
@@Ashalaby987 That's what I don't get, what do those things have to do with my ability to do the job?
Hi Joshua, u r doing phenomenal job of exposing these idiots. Don't listen to people who in name nationalism says u r targeting a nation. U r just targeting some stupid people(they deserve it)in a nation. Kudos! Love from India.
Exactly India has the worst ever corporate work culture. There's little to no respect nor empathy for the employees !!!
I was in an interview years ago where I was asked how many kids I have. I replied with "how many guns do you own?" The recruiter paused and was like.. uhm.. that's not a relevant question and honestly pretty personal.
I said: I feel the same way.
That's always a tricky question.
Some companies want to know if you don't have kids so you are "free" to work long hours and work on weekends.
And in the other hand, some companies here in Mexico for example, ask that question so they can know if you have someone dependan on you so they can pay you less and constantly remind you "Hey, you have a family to feed, so do what I ask without any hesitation".
@@carloscortes1577 In the U.S., they can't legally ask how many kids you have or your marital status at an interview. I'm not sure about the laws in Mexico.
@@carloscortes1577 and in New Zealand that is an illegal question.
This has been a legally-prohibited employment question in the United States since the 1970s, and could result in the interviewer being sued. However, the potential employer can legally ask you to fill out a W-2 form prior to hiring you, where you specify the number of dependents. It's a good idea to politely walk out of interviews like that, because you know nothing good will come from them. The employer doesn't need to know the number of dependents until you're entered into the payroll calculations for net pay after you're hired.
These sorts of questions are probably just best answered with "My marital status/number of kids/desire to have kids etc will have no bearing on my ability to do this role">
If they push then it's time to end the interview
Keep up the good fight Joshua, some of this is dehumanizing. It's a bad attitude to ask how often you'll be working overtime and establishing boundaries? Thank you for calling this out and making people think about it.
It's not even establishing boundaries, it's answering the question. Are we talking about crunch time at month end, 60 hour weeks, or 18 hour days?
This is what happens when business-creatures imagine they're philosophers.
Recruiters are out of control at the moment.
Man...... My last company expected constant overtime in an engineering setting and never paid a single dime in pay, meanwhile management and ownership drive maseratis and give themselves massive bonuses. They are a constant revolving door and had a ton of trouble replacing me, I wonder why.....🤷 Anyone who gets rejected by this guy dodged a bullet 100%
"They are a constant revolving door and had a ton of trouble replacing me" i feel so good reading this! Justice!!!!!!
asking about family matters during an interview is very much illegal in the US. The person can file discrimination charges against the interviewers business with the EEOC especially considering he weighed those questions against him. These were questions asked by his own admittance that kept this person from being hired. Not only should he apologize, he should hope he doesn't get himself or the company he works for sued
And how would you prove that those types of questions were asked in the court of law?
@@TheTimWalczyk well, he admitted it and hash tagged the crap out of it so its not going to be hard to prove now is it..
@@drownword Yeah in this case he asked about overtime, not family matters. Otherwise, how are you going to prove what happened between two people in a private room? I don't know what law you're referring to that says its illegal to ask about family matters, but it seems very un-enforcable.
If only we had that law in india.
@@TheTimWalczyk keep watching dude
So many clownshoes in HR, you'd think it was a circus.
The perfect Attitude : I will do anything you ask and work overtime without pay every single day and get work done before deadlines and ask for a demotion to save the company money, because I care about the company culture and it matters more then my time with my family or there well being and my ability to provide for them.
Dude, that guy is a walking talking liability.
This is how bad he is *openly*. Imagine behind closed doors.
oh shit...I can only imagine...
I can imagine... such people are hypocrite n play only politics at work....as they are judgement about evrything else except work ethics
I was interviewing with a company that said it was "expected" that I be in the office 60 hours a week minimum and to also come in on Saturday mornings. I told the hiring manager that we could stop the interview early because I no longer was interested in the company. They seemed surprised lol. There is a big difference between being expected vs. being willing when something needs extra time.
If you "have" to be working 60 hours or more every week than either 1.) you're an idiot that does know about efficiency or 2.) the company is not staffed correctly. There is no gray area in that.
Yup
Paid, hopefully, else you should have run, not walk away
@@simonebernacchia It was a salaried position. Hard pass. What is funny is that other internal recruiters keep messaging me. It's the gift that keeps on giving because I get to say no immediately which really confuses them why I wouldn't even be interested at all.
@@Dunc you did good: i did work on salary once and they tried very hard to suck my very soul
I was fired because I messaged in group chat to my boss in front all of my colleagues that I'm no longer willing to work on weekends. And I will say goodbye if they ever force me again (because regularly working on weekend and public holidays become so normal during 8 months that I almost didn't see my son and wife) and my boss replied that my behaviour damaging the business and spoil company reputation. This is was my last working day at that company.
I did mistake I never ask about over time and working on public holidays and weekends during recruitment process previously I worked as freelancer with this company and didn't face such issue until I become full time employee.
I totally agree, I had an interview and asked some basic questions about salary, benefits, the team, and day to day schedule. The interviewer didn't know nor made any attempt to find out. This raised a red flag for me, but I told myself that I needed the job. When I got the job, it was horrible, with an excessive amount of employee turnover and no organization. I wasted a lot of my time and energy being there and quit within 3 months. Always ask questions people.
Oh yeah, the employee turnover rate is always a fun question to ask.
And pass when you get that feeling or being slapped in the face it’s going to be a shitshow. Being out a job a bit longer is better than going through this heartache.
Sounds exactly like my last job!
Good thing the recruiter didn't ask they guy how often he goes to t bathroom. Corporate cringe 😬😂
If I drink coffee I will be able to work more intensely for my employer but I will also have to go to the bathroom more often. To drink the coffee or not to drink the coffee...Will they not care about me working harder and punish me for going to the bathroom more often...
"How consistent are your bowel movements?"
@@paulburkart3575 you must have a bowel movement every four hours on the dot, or you’re fired!
@@eitkoml just take the work laptop to the bathroom
That was the question for me once. "Do you take long time to go to the bathroom". i got this question from one interview in 2019.
Every time the "work-life balance" question comes up, I have absolutely no idea what they're expecting as a response.
"I work during work time and do whatever else in my off time". That's the best answer I got. What more is there to this?
"How do you feel about work-life balance?"
"I feel that people or companies that ask about work life balance have specific expectations that they should clearly state from the outset, so that only those candidates with matching expectations would present themselves for consideration. Doing things any other way indicates that the person or company does not have the integrity to stand by what they expect, in which case it's better not to ask."
Just say I have no life, instant hired
@@Oxios Love this answer!!
CEO complains that this guy doesn’t provide for his family, yet wants his employees to spend less time with their family by working over time.
Recruiter logic
you don't get it! the question is about what is his weakness, which usually is family, because we chose to live with them or we have gratitude towards them.
the question actually is: "can you be a slave so that your family will live?"
HR is corporations subsidising childless women who need "careers" to talk about when they go on tinder dates.
LinkedIn recruiter moment
He wants quantum employees, those who will be in a superposition state of both being in home and being in office at the same time.
I've tried using recruiters in the past. They are absolutely useless. Never got me a damn thing beyond really shitty interviews with really shitty companies.
Yep they are useless and have very bad attitudes...they're recruiters after all lmao
they are no more than brokers
They just want to sell the jobs off. Desirable companies have plenty of applicants, it's the shitty ones that need recruiters to package and sell their jobs
I got one job with the most toxic company, they were terrible as people and expected a lot of overtime at the drop of a hat all the time. Worst experience of my career.
I once interviewed for a startup for a machine learning role, he was literally giving me 2-3 seconds to answer a question before moving on to the next question. Then he asked me a question...how do you find the number of permutations of 3 objects with the help of machine learning. At this point I literally started laughing. Then he told me that they need someone who had knowledge of chips and PCB design also along with machine learning. At this point i just hung up as I had more important things to do.
the first post you showed already doubled my blood pressure from fuming rage. thanks a lot
I don't think that 45min story was even real. I think the writer just made it up believing it sounds clever.
Yeah like Josh mentioned the story about Overtime thing was apparently made up by the dude based on his "apology" post.
The irony is: While the recruiter is still searching for someone else, that candidate they refused has probably already found another occupation.
That's how the current job market is in my country, but they won't tell you that in interviews!
I've been hired on my way home from the first interview. I've been rejected 9 months after my first interview. I still get calls today and it's been 14 months since I last looked for work.
The second you're done talking to them forget they exist.
Most companies that put out job ads don't have a vacancy anyway, they just leave the ad out there for years on end. If you're lucky one day someone will leave and they will legitimately have a vacancy, then they'll pull their list of the last months job applicants and definitely hire one no matter how weak the cohort.
I think he is suffering from a traumatic experience of being rejected. Toxicity at level 3000. His EGO is bigger than his Peepee😡
Company simp is mad because employees wants control.
That interviewer is a mess. It takes more strength to get rid of toxic family members than it does keeping them around. Just because we share DNA doesn't give you the right to walk all over me. I'd hire someone for not staying around toxic family members because it shows that they have a certain awareness: you can't change people who aren't self-aware of their behavior.
HR is ridiculous. Sheesh
thank you for exposing this nonsense
Recruiters are in no place to judge people they are scum of the earth, that's like a used car salesman passing judgement on someone who didn't want their 3 months contract job paying 12/hr
That's harsh. I recruit for tech companies in Europe and work hard to get my candidates as much salary as possible while guiding them how to impress and pass interviews. My candidates are grateful, keep in touch and when they're ready to move we go again.
@@curiositycat22 you use people like cattle for commission is what you do
@@_baller by giving them a better salary, relocating them to a country with better living & working conditions? OK. Makes sense.
The guy that didnt get the job for not being there for his parents, probably spends his time focusing on his work and if its true then he would be a perfect candidate for that senior position. So that post is total a BS lie.
Welcome to Arkham asylum :D
I met so many recruiters, and some were absolutely clueless and and on some sort of powertrip. The worst are the ones trying to conduct a technical interview with crap they found on the internet, not even relevant. In the old days of activeX one actually asked "why would you use an OCX instead of an OCA". Yeah, not only an idiotic question, but even more stupid when you interview someone for an Assembly and C job. He never called back, got the same job via a different more competent recruiter shortly after.
how to answer the Overtime question:
"I'm happy to work a reasonable amount of hours at the normal Overtime and Doubletime Rate"
Yep! Question is always, "Am I getting overtime pay for this?"
How much do I got paid for OT?
Joshua.. This interview in different context actually happened... I answered a question about what I do with my free time I told interviewer "I do whatever I want" it's nobodies business
Man sometimes I just wish I was born somewhere where there's humanity. Y'all cant imagine the shit I have to deal with working as a software developer (that too a self-taught one) here in this shithole of a country where I live. And then there's my dad to add insult to injury who worked in IT for 25+ years in the middle east by bragging about how ethical a certain multinational company treated its employees.
Boomers are the worst. They don't anything about the modern World
Sounds awful man, I hope you manage to make it better for yourself
Let me guess, Iran?
I stay in the same Shitty Country and plan to move to Europe for Work for Software development (Permanently i hope)
@@MonsterJuiced Thanks man. I'm actually doing quite well for myself in terms of pay considering the local wage standards and my current skill level also considering I've only started my career less than an year ago (joshua's videos really played a huge role). But pay isn't the only factor, working with these companies is not an enjoyable experience. I just plan to get a remote job or maybe move elsewhere once I reach a respectable skill level.
-Do you like programming?
-I make it for the living.
-How do you feel about working overtime?
-How many times a month?
-What do you do on your free time?
-None of your business.
-Who are the people, that inspire you?
-Josh Fluke.
-Yeah, could've guessed.
"attitude matters" = "i need more doormats to do the most for the absolute least"
Thank you SO much for existing man! As a newbie coder preparing for job interviews,your contents give me a great heads up.
I was unemployed for most of last year. If I had interviewed with this guy and found out about this post later, I would rip him and his company a new one on Glassdoor and any other site I could find. Though in some ways I’d be glad that I didn’t get the job, because who in their right mind would want to work for him or his company?
You're right. I've never met someone who would want to work for him except someone who's totally and completely desperate for a job.
This is why it is so important to have a fully funded emergency fund. Instead of desperately accepting a job from goons like this out of desperation, it gives you several months to find something less exploitative.
You need merch that says: it's not a fluke, my hustle game is on point!
Interviewer: Do you work overtime.
Job seeker: Overtime is a sign of projext mismanagement and losses for the company.
"This isn't a business! It's more like a cheap source of labor. Like a family." - Prof. Fansworth and that guy on Linkedin probably.
Thank you ever so much for pointing this out 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏👍
You have no idea what you're doing my friend.
whats the deal with employers doing a phone interview and two in person interviews for a job that only pays 10$ screw that not wasting my time jumping through hoops for a job that pays peanuts no wonder they cant find people to work... oh and I forgot about the personality survey
This is great content bro !! You are revolutionary
If it happens multiple times a month it’s no longer just an emergency it’s now normal working conditions.
Exactly. As the employer if you are not preparing for and adjusting to emergencies, then you are bad at managing your business and yours should be the position up to be filled.
When they don't want to tell you how many weekends you'll be working, assume you'll be working every weekend.
Get em Joshua!
Those questions are typical outside of the US, especially in Asia and India. Reminds me of interviews where they ask "Are you willing to work nights and weekends?", where the only "correct" answer is yes.
Generally, no. They’ll make you work overtime, but you’ll almost never see overtime hours.
@@harsh9558 no lol
Agreed lol. They won't be direct about it, but every job desc here will state "willingness to go above and beyond....."
Plenty of places outside of the US where these questions are very illegal.
This is why I want to leave the country. Working 8-9 hours, 5 days a week is a dream considering the fact that I have worked 14-16 hours per day before quitting my last job due to exhaustion. Indian Work Culture is super toxic , even worse than Japanese Work Culture and guess what , even my parents are a victim to it ( they boast about working 12-14 hours inspite of being 50+ years old ) . Master's abroad is expensive so that won't work out for me and I guess killing myself shall work out the best ( Several Indian IT workers kill themselves or die due to overwork but it's never covered ) . I would say that Karoshi is more common in India than in Japan .
*Asks about salary and benefits*
"Oh, so it's just the money to you huh? REJECTED."
Attitude matters indeed - what a jerk! The candidate is better off with a different employer. I hope this recruiter and his company will soon go out of business.
Economy is there to serve the people - not the other way around!
The whole art of interviewing might as well be called the art of discrimination because that is basically what is going on. Forget your credentials, all they care about is if you seem likeable enough for them to work with you. Most people can learn to be proficient at work with on the job training. Most degrees are actually useless
The people in your videos cannot be real! 🤦🏾♀️ either way I have been binge watching your videos love it all 💜
The industry is full of these types of people.
Joshua is slowly becoming more and more based and I love it. Keep questioning everything bro
He’s always been based lol
@@khiemgluong Yeah but not pepe the frog based
Interviewer: "What's your evening schedule like?"
Interviewee:"Unavailable."
Interviewer: "what's making it unavailable?"
Interviewee: "Every night, at the end of my availability, I go home, Shower,
And then put on my best suit. Then I spend the next fifteen minutes driving to my lawyers where we have very long, hypothetical discussions on how I should sue nosey employers who demand to know what is happening in my private life...."
Interviewer: " Okay, I think we're done here..."
Joshua, as someone that worked in recruitment for 10 years, I would be interested in doing an "insider" conversation referring to a recruiter and corporate mindset. I've had that mindset and I'm looking to move into tech to move away from it. I'd prefer to be anom though tbh
I have been telling these employer's how rediculous they behave. And, how I like the idea of redistributing their wealth. It really changes the dynamics of the social structure.
They want to know if a person has a family to see if they can hold them hostage with the pressure of providing for families and know that the candidate will take the overwork because of it.
The purpose of the interview is to vet the company as much as they are vetting you
4:52 WTF did this guy just like his own linkedin post??!!
🤣🤣 yess
Not sure what country this guy is in but in Canada these are illegal questions and you would definitely get sued for it. Posting it online would only serve as evidence, so not a very smart move. But I'm guessing this interviewer is not in Canada. Sad ☹
India
@@rustyshacklefordspocketsqu8162 Even devil be like, that's too much servitude.
@@rustyshacklefordspocketsqu8162 "Pay me to not do something off the clock and I'll be happy to refrain. Give me a few days to work up a rate sheet."
Working 12-14 hours , 6 days a week is the norm in India . Source- I worked one before burning out .
Been loving all your new recent vids
Elon Musk is not on good terms with his dad, this recruiter would have totally rejected Elon.
Took the money and ran
@@Oxios funny....that's how Elon got all of his money before Tesla.
not on good terms with dad
still lets dad pay tuition
still depends on dad's friends for business mentorship (he would have literally doomed Zip2, "X.com"/PayPal and Tesla if it wasn't for one of his dad's buds telling him he has to stop the retarded narcissistic management)
still a trust fund baby let's not forget his mom had her own jet as a fucking model
lol, his father former British intelligence ... keep believing in MSM
@@MrSanbonsakura former british intelligence south african mine owner :D
If I were this recruiter’s boss he’d be out of the job in a heartbeat, you should be looking for people capable of doing the job not people that you personally like.
In my experience lately, it’s better to interview with the actual hiring manager whenever you get a chance vs the recruiter/talent acquisition person. It’s more authentic and they seem to have a better connection usually because they’re in the same industry or closely related and can relate better in type of work and collaboration.
volume is super low man, love the content and the quality, keep it up!
"attitude matters"
Unless you're the interviewer, and you need to reject some people for the power trip, then brag about it online.
He's looking for the attitude of a doormat.
Haha wow, you give some people a little bit of authority “I rejected him!!”
Imagine if he was a cop
It has been my experience up to now that when you are being asked anything involving overtime, the meaning is that you will do overtime all the time. At which point is no longer overtime, but regular working hours. Always ask them what do they mean as overtime.
But Josh, you really got worked up there. more then usual, thought not without cause.
Thanks ur Work is so inspiration
If i was in an interview where they keep questioning about my family i would try 2, maybe 3 times tops to steer the convo to my relevant skills, experience etc. After that its just a lost cause.
Makes me think of The Godfather: “You spend time with your family?” “Sure I do” “Good, because a man who doesn’t spend time with his family can never be a real man?” 🤣
@@HebrewHammer1337 In my experience, coming over as "insecure" during an interview can result in the recruiter doubting your skill-set or competences, therefore refusing you.
Today's workforce counts a lot of heads suffering from an apparent form of 'the Dunning Kruger effect'. Looking at some people I know in management, the whole corporate world is based on the 'fake it, till you make it' principle. The most incompetent people get hired because they come over as very confident, while competent people don't get hired because they're lacking confident. I won't be surprised that your lack of confident is actually that what's holding you back, while you're actually very good in what you do.
I always recommend people who are bad at interviews to sign-up for some job openings they really don't want, as a warm-up. Once you're at ease during an interview, that's the moment you can start signing up for the job's you really want to have. In the beginning this may feel like you're wasting those recruiters their time, while in reality they don't give about the outcome and get paid either way. They're actually wasting your time when they refuse to give you the job, especially when they refuse you after a second interview.
PS:
1) People like humor, you don't have to act like a clown but answering a question or two in a funny way shows that you're probably a nice person to work with in a team.
2) If they let you wait for 15 minutes on a chair prior to the interview, then don't just sit there looking apathetically at a wall but talk to someone instead or take out your phone and browse a bit on the internet.
3) If they offer you a coffee during an interview and it's a warm summer day, ask for an ice cold water or soda instead, it shows that you know what you want and are not afraid to ask for it.
4) Before the pandemic you could only visit 1 or 2 interviews a day, now during the pandemic you can plan 3 to 6 interviews a day trough video-call (if you ask for it). You can even ask for an interview during your lunchbreak without taking an offday, just tell your colleague that you forgot your lunch and go sit in your car on some random parking lot (I've done that) and make sure the interview ends in time. It's currently the perfect moment for job-hunting, so go for it!
@@timmy7201 i would take the coffee anyway, coffee HAS to be hot for me, not an ice coffee fan
@@simonebernacchia Before noon I also prefer my coffee hot and pure, without sugar or milk and from fresh beans (no pre-grind nonsens). After noon (especially on hot summer days) I prefer cold drinks such as water or soda.
As embedded hardware/firmware dev I also have to limit my caffeine intake after noon, or I wont be capable of holding a soldering iron or connecting jumper wires without shaking them all over the place. Especially when soldering 0402 resistors or capacitors (Size: 0.04 x 0.02 inch / 1.0 x 0.05 mm) for prototyping the caffeine induced shakiness becomes an issue...
After a bad night of sleep I'm somehow still capable of consuming 6 to 8th cups before noon, on average it's more around 2 to 4 cups...
@@timmy7201 you are talking to an Italian,hence coffee is my cup of tea :P
I literally did this when I was interviewed at my current job. My interviewer didn't seem off about it because I understood there would be some but I asked what is typical and what is seasonably typical for their company. It is an unpredictable market I explained to her. 3 years later and high turn-over and things I had talked to management and upper management (as well as other coworkers) they are actually looking into resolving turn over and over time. The work culture is changing in many industries. And a lot of companies are trying to figure it out. People are willing to work over-time but not kill themselves with it anymore. If you cannot change you will see your doors closed before you know it. I was in management so I understand how it is. I always had to push and push for employees and my coboss and me covered for people just to keep them content with life happens sometimes you cannot work the load. We tried to all work it around and help out. If only most companies did this. Now most companies are closing their doors and it is always the same boomer logic that people just do not want to work. People that spend 12 hours for your interview process and paperwork want to work but they WILL NOT KILL THEMSELVES for any wage they will work for less pay to survive than kill themselves for a little more money. There is a big culture shock coming out of this pandemic and people younger are not going to settle for bs anymore.
I once interviewed for a job at a carpet cleaning company. The guy who interviewed me asked me a lot of personal and unnecessary questions and even berated me about my handwriting. A week later I was offered a job, needless to say I didn't take the job offer, that interview told me everything I needed to know about what kind 9f employer he would be.
Love this one. This content is gold
It’s hilarious how these recruiters show their arrogance. How foolish he will look when people refuse to go after the crap jobs he’s recruiting for. In today’s world I’m finding myself desiring a job that respects my time above all else. If I put in extra time it is because I want to and have interest in the work. A company that tries to exploit your time at their will is one I don’t have patience for anymore and it seems more and more people are feeling the same way. Soon enough these companies will realize that in order to keep and hire anyone it will be essential that they respect their employees.
Spot on !!
Sadly from the company name it looks like it takes place in India where they might not have labour laws like in the West. I'm mixed and I see this same attitude from people around hear and it's extremely disheartening because they're doing cultural practices I have no idea about - I'm born in the West. I applied for a regular Apotex job in North America, and the interviewer asked me which "caste" I was from, to which I told him I was not familiar with that word. I had to google it at home, only to find out it's their kind of medieval feudal system they use which was supposed to be phased out, but terrible people still use it, it seems. I told them their discriminatory practices in a survey, but I doubt they read it or care.
Interviews have nothing to do with how working in the company will really be. I would have given the desired answer "of course I would", and then rejected the offer if given because the question itself was a giveaway as to the company attitude. The recruiter isn't going to share any true information about downsides of the company.
It's terrifying that this manager got so many likes for those myopic and pompous posts. So can we infer that there's a decent percentage of managers and recruiters with the same lack of discernment as this guy? If so, being accepted into any position based on merit is like rolling a dice.
Why did you reject me?
HR: Your wife isn’t thick and you don’t have a 7” which is minimum requirement.
Great analysis! In Ukraine we have same bullshit sometimes from ousource companies
have you seen that HireVue interview process? Like AI interviewing. just crazy.
I'm glad there are recruiters like Vikas. These guys are huge red flags who tell the candidates that the company sucks and wants you to work overtime without extra pay. No good company ever says that shit in the interview.
For statements like these are really useful in filtering job opportunities. Thanks Vikas.
1:31 "I think you're the one who needs an attitute adjustment"
*John Cena music starts playing on the background*
Loved the vid man. Volume is a little low, compared to other vids, but no big deal
Josh should have a word to his employee about the audio.
Wait a second...wait a second...so, the same guy who rejected a candidate because he simply asked how often working beyond hours was expected, rejected another candidate didn't meet the recruiter's family expectations (hadn't seen his parents in three years)??? What if candidate one needed to know how often longer work hours were needed BECAUSE of his family obligations? Make it make sense! This General Manager is inconsistent in his logic. This is why I hate searching for jobs and interviewing. You can be weeded out for the most trivial of things by the most trivial people. Ugh.
Keep calling these bafoons out! ✊