Former mormon here, actually 3rd great granddaughter of Miranda Hyde...pictured in your podcast. Thank you for your channel, I have learned so much! I am a real Christian now and it amazes me how ignorant I was of bible teachings. I am currently getting close to finishing reading the Bible for the first time and almost daily witness how much mormon teachings do not jibe with God's word in the Bible. I think if I run into any Mormons in the future I would challenge them to read the Bible and not cross reference with their mormon publications. The Bible is so clear. .
I am glad to hear you was able to get out of the cult. I have also been in a "christian" cult and have learned to keep close to the truth of the Bible, to stay clear of cultish thinking. I think there have to be a deception, a form of brainwash or psycosis that keep us in beliving the lies of the cult. It is mind boggeling how millions can belive in lies when the truth is right in front of us.
Praise God that you’ve come to know the true Biblical Jesus! My husband and I (at different times) attended the Mormon church. He was born into it. We both are now Christian. The Bible is amazing! I’m also getting close to finishing reading all the way thru. I’m following The Bible Recap and it’s been super helpful.
So I know a momon and he comes into the gas station where I work. He's very nice, always gives me a hug, and brings breakfast sometimes and I see him feeding the homeless a lot. But he brags a lot and also talks about his levels in heaven... He says he believes in Jesus and the resurrection tho... So as a true believer I don't know what to think. Have you met any Mormons like that?
Former Mormon here. I’m the 3rd great grandson of brigham young. Left mormonism (and all religion) at 18. Jesus tracked me down 15 years later. The real Jesus. Praise God. Thanks for this great teaching
So happy to hear you have been found by the true Jesus! I'm a pioneer descendant. I too left Mormonism at around 20 yrs. old. It took me longer , but God is faithful. Jesus came after me and awakened my dead heart. All glory to God! I've never been the same since. Praise the Lord ,oh my soul , and all that is within me...
@@danc226 Thank you Dan ! I praise the Lord for every soul that gets free in Jesus. I am praying for all those still decieved within Mormonism. Blessings to you in Jesus holy name.
I escaped mormonism at 17. It was wild. They tracked me down 600 miles away and knocked on the door. They wouldnt take me off the rolls unless my husband said it. Yes,I got married at 17. I still have family trapped in that nonsense.
Oh no! People knocked on your door! How scary! Honestly you make it sound like they threatened you. Nobody “escapes” Mormonism. If you want to have your records removed or just not go to church anymore then you are welcome to.
I’m in Utah and it’s a different beast here. But the blessing is it’s become my own mission field as I’ve also got their own resources to utilize. Library, museum, bookstores, etc to learn from and share with them - missionaries in my home or at temple square. Your videos have helped a ton as well Pastor Mike. Thank you for referencing sources because it helps me find them easier in their own books.
How do mormons react when you quote "their own" scripture that says there's only one God? Not one God in this universe, but one God and one universe. I think it would be pretty hard to get around that.
And in the case they say the Bible is flawed, then why would they follow the Bible at all? How would they know what parts are true and which ones aren't? What would be the point in reading it whatsoever? These are all questions I'd like to ask. Maybe I will, considering I live VERY close to the mormon holy land, palmyra New York. I actually used to live right in the center of the town, thousands of mormons would come here every year for hill cumorah. Mormon book stores and everything. It always infuriated me to see lots of children around their heretic parents, being lead straight to hell by the ones that are supposed to love them the most....
@@AR15andGOD the younger missionaries are often unaware and repaid with “I’ve never heard that” or “I don’t even know what that is”… and I’m allowing it all to organically come up in conversation. I let the Holy Spirit lead for sure so I’ll I’m doing is asking questions, listening and thoughtfully responding with a question to gain better understanding of what they’re saying or to plant a seed of what I’ve learned their own doctrine teaches and being up what the Bible says as well. They love it when people are curious so it’s the approach I take and the Lord leads. I always tell them I’m learning about it or am currently learning (insert my current time understanding X concept/teaching). Often times, it’s the older generations that I can have deep doctrinal conversations with, on LDS beliefs and the Bible.
Lol what?? “All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equipped for every good work.” 2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB The “good works” include spreading the gospel. I rebuke what you said.
I'm shocked with the number of evangelicals that I speak to who believe that Mormons are traditional Christians of another denomination. It may carry the name Jesus in teachings but that only makes it a laughable situation for Satan himself
LOL 😆 : Mormons would tell you Evangelicals R the ones giving them the most criticism! They all know who I am as they call me their "Evangelical troll" of pointing out their counterfeit church.
@@krakoosh1 - That is incorrect . There may be a few "ultra-charismatics" that do , but it is primarily the " Prosperity Gospel movement " that teaches " you are gods " , and that is with a small "g" god , and bad as the ultra-charismatics are , the Prosperity gospel is far worse > Both groups take scripture out of context when , God says , " did I not call you gods " in the Psalms , God was actually rebuking the judges . Both groups fall short in representing true biblical christianity .. Also , a small "g" god is far from the Mormons Exaltation doctrine .. The comment above yours said it good " That's quite literally what satans rebellion is all about " ,, Isaiah ch 14 vs 14 - " I will be like the most high " . Instead of eluding to what other groups do or don't do , you should take a hard look at what Mormon Exaltation Doctrine teaches ,, a bigger fairy tale you will not find .
If I were a mormon, I could have NO respect or love for God at all... how could I love and respect something that isn't even God? Just a man playing God, with infinitely many before him.... If I personally get to become God, then being God means nothing. My God is unique, perfect, one of a kind, unchanging, eternal. One of One.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons) and I love God with all my heart. I know Mr. Winger is doing what he believes is right and thats good but he doesn’t do a good job explaining Mormon doctrine in a fair or accurate manner.Thank you for commenting.
@@bobbyhempel1513 Actually no. When Mr. Winger says things like “You can’t actually find much Mormon doctrine in the Boon of Mormon” it’s not even a matter of him being 50% it’s just he doesn’t seem it’s worth the effort to do research beyond some quick Google searches.
@@disguisedcentennial835 He never fully explains the Mormon side/view fully and has a shaky understanding of whatever he reads related to the church. He seems to know Protestant doctrine well but that’s it.
One of the reasons I'm a Christian is because it's the only religion that is logically coherent. All other religions are so insane that I can't wrap my head around how someone can believe it.😵💫
@@davidfayfield6594 - I have been reading the comments , and noticed that you imply that Christianity is insane as well . In what way do you find Christianity to be insane or logically incoherent ?
If you go back to the Bible rather than relying on human tradition, Christianity becomes really clear. Jesus said love your enemy and pray for the one who persecute you, Catholics, and others who follow their example, say that actually no, you should hate your enemy. Jesus said Shema, your God is one God, and that the Father is greater than I am, Catholics and those who follow their example say no, actually, God is simultaneously one and three. Jesus's teaching is simple, human make it confusing and inaccessible for their own ends. Better to go back to the scource.
I had 2 Mormons come to our home once, we gave them a dinner and as they were leaving we made a reference to the Bible and one of them said 'I can do without the Bible but not the Book of Mormon." That shows how they are a cult and the serious part is found in the book of Galatians to describe that cult " But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (twice it is spoken on that page as to the seriousness of being in that cult).
As a return missionary and convert to the LDS Church in my adolescence, I agree with you, Lioness of Judah. I have found in the chat rooms of Ward Radio and other pro-mormon websites, the best thing I can do for them is ask the questions I had that brought me to the truth. Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, who is not Satan’s brother, but Satan’s creator. If it wasn’t for Christ creating Lucifer, we would not have free will and the ability to choose between good and evil. Since Jesus the Creator is omniscient, He had foreknowledge of Lucifers pride and rebellion and the rebellion of a third of the Host's of Heaven. It was the only way to demonstrate His love for us while at the same time allowing us the opportunity to love in return. Without love, we are simply a tickling symbol even if we have all the other gifts of the spirit.
Lord I pray against all evil deceptions of the enemy that have led many astray from the simplicity of your Gospel. Open up their eyes and their hearts to receive your words and come back to you Jesus, Amen.
@@jeffwarren6906 You are describing what is more accurately called heresy. Not everyone agrees on what "cult" means. I haven't heard anyone call Gnosticism a cult for example. I think this association between cult and heresy has more to do with JW than anything.
In regards to my comment , which spoke of organization & tyranny , how did you come up with " heresy " as the better way to describe what I was saying . As far as not everyone agreeing on what " cult " means is of no matter , as biblical Christianity declares a cult to be any group such as Mormons or JWs , in that they not only do not follow biblical Christianity , but also use outside sources for principles & doctrine , and follow a Jesus other than the Jesus of the Bible . I still find it difficult to figure out how you came up with heresy as describing more accurately what I said about organization & tyranny . Thank you though for the reply
Compliments to you on this presentation on LDS. So many others have said the same thing BUTm, you properly show the references in LDS scripture to back it up! that is important as we need to learn more of the falicy of the morman faith. thank you
Thank you for pointing how their beautiful buildings tend to be deceptive. I've seen this so many times with roman catholics, Orthodox and some Christian denominations. Its very easy to get caught up in the outward beauty of the that you believe that they must be more spiritual. Its excatly how the Pharisees operated.
I really appreciate your way of responding to LDS attacks from other channels like Ward Radio, is that you simply quote and reference LDS prophets and doctrine. It's refreshing brother, that you don't retaliate, but simply share facts. God bless you.
Isaiah 43:10 God said, "There is no other God- there never has been, and there never will be." Joseph Smith said, God was once a man like us and we can also become gods, repeating the same lie that the devil himself said to Adam and Eve. Sadly millions of Mormons are walking straight to hell because of it. As an ex-mormon and a born again Christian, this concerns me because I have a lot of Mormon family and friends.
OK. Please explain to me, how an ordinary man became the Creator of everything, when there was nothing before Creation? Who created that ordinary man? Sorry, but the Everlasting Father God Almighty Created the World & everything in it, & Mankind was, if memory serves, the FINAL Creation. There could NOT have been an "ordinary man" before Creation since Mankind hadn't been Created yet. This explanation from the LDS, seems to me to be as full of knots, & as wound up, as cotton candy! I roomed with a nice, sweet, Mormon young lady, & was interested in learning what she believed & why, but with all our time together & our talks, she could not explain things in a way I could even come close to making a sensical thought from! She simply spouted their verbiage over & over! As a Born-Again Christian, I could do the same, but I have expressive aphasia after a stroke, so what I SAY from my mouth may NOT be the same as what my brain said! She didn't have this disorder. I must say that I admire a lot of things about the Mormons,. They have wonderful community support, both in their own community & the community at large, they are very kind & compassionate people. But overlooking The Lord's own teachings to follow a man's teaching, is not one of those things I admire.
You have a misconception about the trinity. You're thinking of it in terms of addition not multiplication. There are 3 persons in 1 God. The Father, the Word and the Spirit. These 3 agree with each other. If it were a case of 3 Gods in 3 persons they would each be equally powerful, equally intelligient and equally omniopetent, but be able to disagree with each other and act contrary to one will. Thus they would be a house divided against itself. But the fact that they agree with each other in the essence and spirit of Truth, that which is IS, aka "I AM", that's what makes 3 persons in 1 God possible. And the concept of the trinity is established as early as Genesis 1:26. So it isn't as though it's a new "Christian" doctrine. It's simply revealed as it truly is in fullness and as has been told throughout All of the OT. Even if you were to go at it simply by identifying who is the Messiah, using first what is in the Old Testament, you would come to the conclusion that the Messiah would be God incarnate, on Earth in the form of Flesh, born of a woman, of the line of David. And that's just a handful of identifying characteristics. There's only One person in all of history who properly checks out all of those characteristics. Jesus of Nazareth. Think about it like this, God is the spirit of Truth. What he speaks is part of him and in Truth and with the capability of free will, the ability to write reality as he sees fit, what he speaks comes to pass and be so. That word is part of him even though it is not him directly, just like if you speak to someone and you're having a conversation with them, the words you are speaking Are you. They represent your inner feelings, thoughts and capacity for communicating information through expression. And the more earnest you are at speaking from the heart, the more your authentic self is conveyed. That's sort of how it is with God and his Word. But what establishes them and keeps them as the "I AM" is the Holy Spirit. God cannot be un-true. It is his very essence of truth that allows for things to be and that is embodied in his Holy Spirit. In other words if you know that someone did you a kindness and you know that someone personally, so much that if they Did do something kind for you, you knew that it came from them without them being there or telling you, that's the same way that Gods Holy Spirit attests to him for his works. Now why the need for 3 persons in One? Instead of Just 1? I think personally for 2 reasons. 1) God is a very loving being. He's big on Family and he loves those especially who are true like he is. So it seems to be safe to think he started his family within himself. 2) Is God doesn't just make claims. God is the very spirit of Truth, and I know I'm saying that a lot but it's because I perceive that throughout history and within our modern culture we undervalue just how big a deal truth is. Think about it, Truth is that which IS. It's circular reasoning and yet it's the only kind of legitimate circular reasoning. So that being said, one can presume that the reason God is 3 persons in 1 conducting with utter agreement is because God gave himself 2 witnesses to his claim. That he is God, the truth and that he IS. This might not all make sense, I don't usually have the best means of conveying what I'm trying to say but I think generally what I'm trying to tell you is in what I said up there. Maybe go over it a few times. Because ultimately the fact is mere Christianity alone is enough to prove not only that God exists but who God is. "Mere Christianity" being that Jesus died by crucifixion under Pontius Pilate in Judea in 33AD before the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70AD and because of him resurrecting, which Christianity would never have gotten off the ground without, the fallout is that the entire world knows about the God of the Bible. And if Mere Christianity is true which preceeds Mormonism and does not abolish Judaism but rather fulfills it, it's safe to presume, though smart to fact check, that if the teachings within the Gospel are true then mormonism is not only false it's a deliberate stumbling block to prevent children of God from entering his rest. And the only thing preventing anyone from seeing the truth is their own bias, pride, vanity and heart. Because Jesus' teachings preceed Joseph Smith for Centuries, and although the same could be said about Jesus and Judaism the fact is Jesus didn't change the law. He didn't say "yeah it's okay to sleep with whoever, whenever and in Heaven it continues." He said I'll go a step further beyond the law and give you grace and truth: "You've heard you shall not commit adultery, but I tell you, whoever looks at a woman to lust after her in his heart has committed adultery with her already in his heart." Whereas Joseph Smith Did change the law so that he could sleep around while Appearing for it to not only be Legal but God endorsed. And that is not what Jesus taught. Jesus being the person who many knew, even his enemies to be the most personal representative of God man has ever known. Greater than any former prophet because he actually Was God among us. Bottom line, Joseph Smith is a false prophet. Someone Jesus even warned about. The only way past his diversion is to humble your heart and go seek after the truth. You can find it in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
Good video Pastor Mike, I found your channel through researching Mormonism a few years back. Like you said, these temples they are building are indeed beautiful, ON THE OUTSIDE. However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: Acts 7:48 keep up the good work brother!
They’re pretty beautiful on the inside too. And the people who attend them are good people filled with light who have no concern other than serving their fellow man. And God does dwell in temple buildings, the passage you cited is saying that God is not *confined* to the temple. But scripture is clear in dozens of other places that God’s presence did dwell in the temple of Solomon, the 2nd temple, and will dwell in the temple in Zion in the last days, as told in Revelation. So if you want to say that your two verses in Acts are outright contradicting and overruling dozens of other passages consistent throughout the rest of the Bible, have at it.
@@KnuttyEntertainment You sound like a Mormon, a couple things stand out to me in your post. You said "They’re pretty beautiful on the inside too. And the people who attend them are good people" BUT God tells us the only one that is good is God , see Luke 18:19 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. If you want to argue against that you are arguing with Jesus. Secondly, under the New Covenant (which you are under) the tearing of the veil to the Holy of Holies recorded in Luke 23:45 God left and no longer occupied the temple in Jerusalem made with human hands and only occupied His eternal temple; Heaven.
@@red.362 If you’re response to someone colloquially calling something “good” is to automatically reply “None are good but God!” (Which would include Jesus in the context of that passage.) then you can never use the word “good” for anything. Good luck removing the most common words in English from your vocabulary, or well, I guess it wouldn’t be “good” luck then. I’ll put it this way: Latter-day Saints are certainly not good as God, but demographic studies show that they are better than all other Christian denominations in all metrics. Happier, healthier, more generous, better educated, know the Bible better, better families, and on and on. As for the temple thing, Latter-day Saints believe that this is the last dispensation and that Christ has set them to the work of preparing for the 2nd coming. The church that will exist in Zion, is the same organization as exists today in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are under the millennium covenant of Christ, not just the covenant established in the New Testament. And Christ re-established temple worship as part of that covenant. Why else would there be a temple in Zion in the last days if it was forever abolished never to be reinstated? And the veil tearing does not represent God leaving the temple. The veil represents Christ: his atonement covers us and allows us to endure the presence of God, which lies on the other side of the veil, that is why no man comes into the father except through Christ. The father is covered, no man has seen or known him, except by the son which reveals and testifies of him. The veil tears because Christ died. He bridged the gap between man and God, and during his death he led the spirits in prison out of captivity and led the way for them to go to paradise. Having paid the price of sin, Christ can now cover us individually, making our bodies into temples of the Holy Spirit through the gift of the Holy Ghost. This does not mean that God left the temple building. A temple by definition is the place where heaven and earth intersect. It also doesn’t mean that Christians ceased doing temple worship before the temple was ultimately destroyed in 70 AD. That’s still over 30 years of Christian temple worship.
@@KnuttyEntertainmentGod dwells in us and when more than 2 Christian’s r together worshipping- mormons arent Christian’s so God doesnt dwell in u or the mormon temple 💛🤟
@@Jaaccoobbbb Never heard that one before. Tell me, which criteria set by Christ excludes Latter-day Saints. Would you say the Good Samaritan is saved? Christ sets him as the standard of loving thy neighbor, and says that if you do likewise that you shall have eternal life. Samaritans had idolatrous and pagan beliefs and yet Christ never excluded them. Demographic studies show that Latter-day Saints are more generous, neighborly, service oriented, and know the Bible better than both the general population, and all other Christian denominations. In other words, they produce the best fruits in the Christian world, a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. “By this shall men know ye are my disciples, that you have love one to another.” Why do you say Latter-day Saints aren’t Christian? Because they don’t believe in the trinity? The trinity was invented centuries after Christ, none of the apostles or the earliest church fathers believed in either, that’s just a historical fact. And Latter-day Saints claim to be a restoration of the pre-Nicene church, so of course they wouldn’t believe in the trinity.
I'm always astonished at how Mormons have messed with every aspect of Christianity. I've learned so much with your videos, so thank you. I am waiting on the Lord to open a door for me to witness to my Mormon friend.
@@mongo4utube I made a whole comment about this video, I’ll copy-paste for you: Mike makes a lot of mistakes about Mormonism, again. Before anything else, let’s just get it out of the way that becoming gods is Biblical: First, we are outright called gods, the very children of God (Psalm 82:6/John 10:34) and children can grow up to become like their parents (Romans 8:16-17). And just as Jesus was glorified to rule like his Father, so shall we rule as they do (Revelation 3:21), for we shall also be like them in that way (1 John 3:2). Indeed we are commanded to become perfect like God the Father is perfect, and God would not give us a commandment that would be impossible for us to keep (Matthew 5:48). And in so doing we may become one with Jesus and the Father the same way they are one with each other (John 17:20-23). Now very little is known about exaltation, Mike is operating off the Infinite Regress theory, which is only really speculation and not held by most Latter-day Saint theologians. He’s making much more definitive claims than we would. And his framing is especially egregious. He makes it sound like missionaries come upto people and tell them “if you become Mormon, then in heaven you get a harem of pregnant goddesses where you endlessly have sex in order to populate your own personal planet, pretty great huh?” Not at all how any of this works. First, about sex and children. While gods are capable of procreating, they probably don’t do it all that often, their flesh doesn’t carry that carnal lust in the resurrection, and it’s not very necessary either considering their power to create. When gods procreate, they produce after their kind, just like scripture says all things produce after their own kind. The physical children of God would be immortal beings like Adam and Christ (though Christ could still die if he chose because he inherited mortality from his mother). Spiritual children are an entirely different story. You don’t have physical sex to create spiritual embryos. We believe spirits are material, but they’re not biological in that way. In Mormonism, there is no creation ex nihilo. There is an infinite number of co-eternal spirits floating around out in the ether, we are all the same age. God takes these spirits, conforms them to his image and makes them his children. In this new ordered environment with a new name and new ability to make distinctions, these spirits are then enabled to develop, progress, and mature in their knowledge, eventually inheriting all the their Father has. That’s how God designed it, he saw he was the most intelligent of the spirits, so he created a path by which they could progress as himself, all things producing after their kind. When these spirits are fully mature in knowledge, power, and righteous, they become gods (not God, there is only One Most High God who is self sufficient, he is god of Gods, Deuteronomy 10:17). And as gods they are now qualified to take part in the family business of rearing the spirits to become gods. So God gives them stewardship over parts of his kingdom, they foster spirit children and rule over and help create worlds. This is exactly what God does in Deuteronomy 32:8-9. He divvies up all the people of the world into nations and then gives a nation to each of his godly children, with Jehovah/Jesus inheriting Israel. Next, about the Polygamy thing. It is true that you can have multiple active marriage sealings: one to your current wife, and others to deceased wives. However that does not mean you become polygamous in heaven. We don’t know if there’s polygamy in heaven, and I would err on the side of there isn’t. Joseph Smith’s polygamy was not really a sexual thing. It was really more about sealing things in heaven and earth, which joins the family trees of two people, the ultimate goal being to connect all of humanity in one big heavenly family. People were sealed to each other as blood brothers and godfathers, it encompassed all types of relationships. And we know for a fact that many of Joseph’s “wives“ were never even in the same room alone. These are really more religious betrothals than marriages, and Joseph Smith was really very hesitant to start the practice. For example, his first three plural wives after starting the practice were all like 7 months pregnant, so Joseph couldn’t be having sex with them, probably the reason he chose to be sealed to them, so that he could get around the part of the practice. And yes, they did have husbands, but the husbands knew about it, and it didn’t really bother them because they knew it wasn’t a sexual thing. A lot of Joseph’s other wives were widows that were too old to be sex partners, so not exactly harem material. The few where we don’t know if Joseph had sex with, are heavily debated. (Often Latter-day Saints arguing he did have sex with them in opposition to other denominations claiming that Joseph Smith didn’t practice polygamy at all. And considering the severe lack of evidence, they actually have a solid case that he didn’t.) What we do know is that Joseph, despite having like 10 kids with his first wife, never had kids with anyone else. And finally, that passage about No marriage in heaven is saying there are no weddings in heaven, no new marriages, people already married will continue to be married. And second, they’re using the example of Levirite marriage (Deuteronomy 25:5-10, actually not too dissimilar to the practice held under Brigham Young). Christ is saying there is no need for levirite marriage in heaven, because the first husband is there. That first marriage is of a different type than the Levirite marriages and is still in force, so there is no need for the woman to be married an 8th time to re-marry her first husband. As for the thing about marriage only being for good people, I think Mike is referencing a passage in Doctrine and Covenants about how only the exalted are married in heaven, and that the others are as the angels in heaven, which is true, but only tangentially related to the topic.
He got nothing wrong. I'm a former Mormon 34 yrs, devout, temple attending, RS pres. Mike is correct. It's not talked about over the pulpit or in basic lesson manuals. Attend a high priest meeting or listen carefully to older temple covenants. Read older Mormon doctrine. The LDS church has been trying for years to look Christian. If only chapel Mormons had all the older books I had. It's all in there in black and white.
@mikewinger please do an episode on racism in the Mormon church regarding skin color and how in modern times they have suddenly changed their stance to include all nationalities being eligible to be Mormon.
@@bhalliwell739 "Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory! For the wedding of the Lamb has come, and his bride has made herself ready. Fine linen, bright and clean, was given her to wear.” (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of God’s holy people.) Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God,” Revelation 19:7-9 (NIV).
@@bhalliwell739 I believe the Luke passage is intended to refer to marriage between humans, the "people of this age" (vs. 34). The marriage feast of the Lamb is quite real, with multiple referents to the church as the bride of Christ elsewhere in scripture: "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to _one husband, to Christ,_ so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him," II Corinthians 11:2; "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For _the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church,_ his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything," Ephesians 5:22-24; "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared _as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband,"_ Revelation 21:2; "One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, 'Come, I will show you _the bride, the wife of the Lamb,'”_ Revelation 21:9. At least twice in the gospels, Jesus alludes to himself as the bridegroom: "Jesus answered, 'How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast," Matthew 9:15; The Parable of the Ten Virgins, Matthew 25:1-13; and John the Baptist refers to the Messiah as the bridegroom in John 3:29-30.
Hey Mike, I have recently been binge watching your vids. Great teachings with wonderful clarification from the Word! I just came across the whole debacle with Tim Hurd and Doctrinal Watchdog. What a test of your faith and dedication to His Word. For what it is worth I have learned so much from you and I think you are one of the best teachers online. It was surely a lesson for me in being so careful with "discernment" ministries and always checking out the facts before making any judgements. Please don't be discouraged. You have touched more lives for the glory of Christ than you know.
I just saw that video this morning and it's heart breaking that they would lie about him. He's a phenomenal teacher of the gospel ❤🙏 You left a Beautiful comment that I agree with 💯
As a return missionary and convert to the LDS Church in my adolescence, I agree with you. I have found in the chat rooms of Ward Radio and other pro-mormon websites, the best thing I can do for them is ask the questions I had that brought me to the truth. Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, who is not Satan’s brother, but Satan’s creator. If it wasn’t for Christ creating Lucifer, we would not have free will and the ability to choose between good and evil. Since Jesus the Creator is omniscient, He had foreknowledge of Lucifers pride and rebellion and the rebellion of a third of the Host's of Heaven. It was the only way to demonstrate His love for us while at the same time allowing us the opportunity to love in return. Without love, we are simply a tickling symbol even if we have all the other gifts of the spirit.
We had free will before the fall, just as we will have free will after our deaths in full spiritual regeneration. We will simply have no will to enact evil, just as before our original fore bearers sins. Full restoration
Why does the LDS Church teach that man first existed as spirits in heaven when 1 Corinthians 15:46 says that the physical body comes before the spiritual?
@@AR15andGOD Not only restored, but finally complete. Male and female created He them. In the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage. That means Adam and Eve were never meant to be the full manifestation of God's image, but merely a step in the process He is using to create the universe atheists complain we don't have, one with no evil, sin, or death.
@lisachambers3683 Colossians Chapter One: 15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him, all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Sad thing is that that's not that far from a situation recorded in the Joseph Smith papers. I used to a member and the more I read the JS papers the more certain I become.
@@lisachambers3683 the Trinity is clearly in Scripture, and I'm not going to debate that core issue with you even though you'd like to argue about it. Don't waste your time and mine even replying to this comment because I'll just ignore it.
@lisachambers3683 you say to provide specific scripture and when someone does you still don't believe it. And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 1 John 5:7 KJV Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? John 14:8-9 KJV Jesus is God in flesh, not a created being!
It's part of their training. When they reach a certain age they are required to enter missionary duty and often learn a new language. Their entire day is regimented with each hour mapped out. They're only allowed to contact their families once a week and on specific holidays. Before 2019 they could only contact their parents on holidays. They essentially have no free time to do anything else, including questioning their message.
Another twisting that ive hears when I bring up this verse is "well they arent married in heaven....thats why they have to be married down here, so they can be sealed in heaven" like they think the verse is only talking about weddings.
I was raised in the Mormon church and am still officially a member. What do you think of the recent attempts by the Mormon Church to de-emphasize their problematic doctrine and appear like a Christian Church? Specifically, they now say “we never taught ______”, also they are using Christian language, like using “grace”, I just heard a video say “sermon” instead of “talk”. 🤯 They recently got Google Maps to change their icon to a cross, as well. Do you think this is going to work? Will Christians fall for it?
Christians unfortunately ARE falling for it as the importance of doctrine and truth are deemphasized in favor of unity for unity’s sake. Christians who are new to the faith or who have failed to do proper research into good theology are especially vulnerable. More mature or experienced Christians will pick up that something is off, but depending on the situation, it’s possible that it could take longer to realize they’re talking to a Mormon. I’m assuming you’re still officially a member because of circumstances out of your control (some people just can’t let go!), but if you can, I hope you’re able to break away entirely.
It's one thing to confess and repent, and another to deny a sin in the first place. If they were to say, "We just figured out all these things were horrible, heretical lies: [and then list all the relevant doctrines,] and we will henceforth use the Bible as our sole directory for doctrine. Let's all repent now and seek the true Christ we have denied for over a century," then it would be good. Instead, they stand there, chocolate covered cheeks, and saying they have no idea who ate all the ciokies, and they have never even known there was a kitchen in the house in the first place. Nope. Unacceptable. Also, to have your name on some membership rolls or not, isn't really the important thing. If you are in God's book of life, then the rest of the lists are mere inventions of men. If you reject the islam/mormon heresy utterly and tell them to remove your name, or if you reject it utterly and ignore the fact you are on their list, I don't see really much difference. Closure, maybe, or ceremonial or formal proceedings. I'm not a memberbof the church I go to, but the pastor nevertheless worries if he doesn't see me on Sunday,.
@@mongo4utubeDepictions of the angel Moroni, whose image is also found on steeples of their buildings instead of crosses. (To my knowledge, Moroni is the name of an angel only found in LDS literature. I've never heard of him outside of LDS-related culture.)
I wont fall for it. I am a former Mormon, now born againChristian ( All glory to God!) I know their many lies. They continue to create more lies to appear more Christian, but they are NOT. 😢 They still have my family decieved. Please pray for the Mormons. ❤
I know you have other videos on this but please go deeper in polytheism vs monotheism as it pertains to the lds church, I’ve been doing research thru you, apologia studios and inspiring philosophy and I’m trying to learn as much as possible. Your ministry is a blessing thanks for all you do Pastor Mike!
@@lisachambers3683 I suggest you read John again my friend. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Rev 1: 7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,” and “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him”; and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.” So shall it be! Amen. 8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” 17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades. Rev 1:17 is a clear refference again, to God himself in the old testament Isaiah 44:6 (NIV): "This is what the LORD says-Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God." If that isn,t clear then you truly are blind.
What are you curious about exactly that pertains to monotheism vs polytheism as is relates to the LDS church? I see you mentioned knowing Mike has other videos on Mormonism; have you had a chance to catch up on those yet, or have you watched them and are still confused?
@@quantumfrost9467 I believe Jesus loves and welcomes all creation. We must learn to do the same. In that diverse and humble environment, we will all see more clearly, repent of the sins and ignorance and harm we cause.
Can you help me understand what you mean by “genuinely love” Stacie? I would say that nothing from our own fleshly desires are genuine. Jesus is the standard, and the Holy Spirit is the facilitator of the kind of Love that exists.
@@PizzaFvngs there are altruistic people in everyday life. what parent wouldn't risk their own life to save a child? Even strangers and people of other faiths will lay down their life to save another. People learn to love even their enemies and struggle and risk to create a safe community that includes everyone. I believe everyone that strives to love their family, neighbors and enemies are welcomed into God's arms. If i have to reject others to make it into heaven then that is not the Heaven of the God I encounter in life.
I had the opportunity to participate in a small group at church led by our lead pastor, going over the book Mormonism 101 by Eric Johnson (would definitely recommend, it goes over Mormon theology and answers the question of why they aren't Christian). We then got to meet the author and got to visit a Mormon temple opening up in our town to see what it's like inside. It's really important to learn why Mormon's aren't Christian because they really like to use that term to describe themselves. And that they are one of the largest growing religious groups is scary because they are reaching out to those who are open to faith or who are on the fence on certain beliefs. I'm glad videos like this exist to show not only Mormons, but non-believers, the path to true Christianity.
@@tongakhan230 its not about the church, its about believing the Bible without the teachings that are outside of it that are treated like the bible in these heretical denominations.
@@user-ly3li3ex8c : Logically all or even some of the churches cannot say they believe the Bible. If so, why are they divided on issues? Here is some good advice. 1 Corinthians 4:6...., that through us you may learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,” Only ONE UNITED GROUP of Jesus' Disciples believe and preach what the Bible teaches. Here is how to identify them. (John 13:35) By this all will know that you are my disciples-if you have love among yourselves.”
Do LDS believe that when you are exalted to a god, that you will have dominion over your own planet or your own universe? If it's the former, do they believe it would be in a different galaxy or just a different solar system? Do they believe there was an "original" god that created the universe(s) that all gods after that were given dominion over/in?
@@disguisedcentennial835 If it's a different solar system within our own galaxy, then we surely would have found one of those plants by now you'd think. Especially if this has been going on for an infinite amount of time. Even if we're talking other galaxies, given that amount of time, you'd think we would have found something by now.
I have no idea. It is enough to know that I will be joint heirs with Christ as he taught and that my Father has a mansion prepared for me, also as Christ taught. Yes, many have speculated what that might look like, but what I know is that I am to bring myself to Christ and trust he will sort out the rest. And I am grateful to God every day for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and how it draws me closer to Christ.
Hi Mike. Was following tips for UA-cam channel and have an idea how you can help. Make a video of how we, as Christian users can help channels grow and also how we can help channels we did sub to maintain relevancy.
Scriptures may present difficult or controversial ideas, but the lens through which we interpret these texts makes all the difference. Where is Pastor Mike's "Holy Envy" in all of this? Why is there a lack of effort to explore other, perhaps more charitable, ways to understand complex ideas found it others' sacred texts? Consider these parallel examples: [*] D&C 132:55 (Doctrine and Covenants): "But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him..." Critical: "A convenient revelation that justifies Joseph Smith's polygamy." Neural: "A complex religious text that sparks debate over polygamy." Affirming: "A divine injunction to unify amidst a crisis period of marital strife." [*] Acts 10:15 : "What God has cleansed, you must not call common." Critical: "Peter leverages a 'divine message' to justify his secret love of pork." Neutral: "A turning point in the spread of early Christianity." Affirming: "Peter's divine guidance to embrace inclusivity in faith." [*] Jeremiah 19:1-2, 9-10: "Thus says the LORD, ‘Go, buy a potter’s earthenware jar... then you shall break the jar in the sight of the men who accompany you... I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters." Critical: "Prophet claims divine instruction to justify canabal acts." Neutral: "A strong metaphor used to stress the impending doom due to Israel's disobedience." Affirming: "A prophetic warning meant to incite repentance and return to godly ways." Not to mention in much detail, but there are many other examples . . . Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son Isaac (Genesis 22), the conquest of Canaan led by Joshua (Book of Joshua), the Prophet Hosea's marriage to a promiscuous woman (Hosea 1) -- it's rather easy and disingenuous to take the most critical view ascribing ill-intent and write out those headlines in the worst light possible.
I am active LDS. Please when slandering us and the church, I would ask you use the correct name: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Thank you!
The church of the brother of Satan of Latter Day Saints is also another way to describe the church according to Mormon theology , Just because it has the name of Jesus in the title doesn’t mean it’s correct , The book of John clearly says who Jesus is and it isn’t the Mormon Jesus and is why you are in grave danger
Around 1:15-1:20. It is wrong to compare what Satan told Eve to our belief in exaltation. Satan’s lie in the garden was not “ye shall be as gods” the phrase “ye shall be as gods” is referring to their ability to discern good and evil. This is confirmed in gensis 3:22 “And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:” Satan’s lie was that they wouldn’t die, but he told the truth that after they ate they would know good and evil like how God knows the difference between good and evil.
I’m not sure what you mean by forbidden knowledge. If you mean the difference between good and evil as i was commenting about, then i would refer you to a chapter in the book of Mormon that describes the necessity of the fall and how without it we would not be able to understand happiness or misery or the joy of our redemption through Christ. The chapter is 2 Nephi chapter 2. Also my comment was quoting the KJV of the bible. My comment was rooted in the Word of God.
I really recommend listening to the first 3 mins of this video with the Star Trek main theme on in the background. It probably emulates what these crazy Mormons feel about their forgeries
I believe mixing blood or a blood extract in stuff like concrete can give it that beautiful white look, I saw a patent somewhere for it the other day. Not sure what it's made out of, but it reminded me of that patent.
Thanks Mike. Does the Bible say categorically there's no marriage, or does it say they neither marry nor are given in marriage? There's a difference - that Mormons can jump on. After all even most Christians will talk about the marriage of the lamb as something real. (Rev19:7) And we don't see this as a biblical contradiction. I feel to make the strongest case against Mormonism, we must admit the limits of what the Bible says and admit the limits of our knowledge. We will be like the angels it says - yet we have no idea whether angels have relationships with each other. Marriage by biblical definition ends in death, so I imagine that whatever the situation re relationships in eternity a new term would probably be needed. Not trying to Swedenborg marriage in, but just saying there's space/possibility for love in eternity without contradictions.
@@jeremyramsey8804 Sure, but one point of clarification. You are using the term eternal life, but what does that actually mean? Most sectarians use it interchangeably with salvation...but when the rich ruler asked Christ about eternal life...Christ gave a very specific answer that does not align with the modern christian roadmap for salvation. What is eternal life and how does it differ from salvation?
@HaleStorm49 it means that you're not in God eternal wrath or in other words tje second death. Are you going to keep peppering me with questions or are you going to answer mine?
My mom and me lived with her friend when I was younger and that friends parents were Mormons and I went to the LDS church when I was younger so I was around it but so glad it didn't stick. It's for sure a false teaching.
I saw a Mormon church buildning and it looked frightening. It gave an impression of power and it looked cold, hard and did not look like a christian church at all. I dont understand how modern mormons can put the book of mormon above the Bible when they know their book is based of Joseph Smiths false language on the gold tablets he conned his followers to belive was an ancient language only he could intepret. Scientists have since then examined the language Smith inventet and there is no doubt it is fake. Still Mormons belive the lie. How is it possible that millions belive the many lies of their faith? Is it mass psycosis of some sort? Thanks for your work.
The Eastern Orthodox Church believes that the sacremental marriage is an eternal union. St John Cryssostom seems to expouse this view in his letter to the young widow. I think it's an error to say that only the western interpretation of marriage in the eschaton is correct, given historically orthodox alternative views which dominate in the east. That being said, the mormon idea of marriage is an innovation and perversion of orthodox marriage.
@@letifrinette8360 That sounds like an act they do not engage in, not a state of being. My wife is not given to me in marriage, nor do I marry her. She was given, and I did marry, but now, we're just married. What riddle was Jesus's answer in response to?
@@bobdinkytown it was in response to a woman married 7 times to different brothers because of levirate marriage. Tbh I quite like the view of the Orthodox Church on this topic, I wonder why there’s this difference in what’s taught in the East vs the West
God almighty Indeed! Only man who can be God! Pastor Mike Winger does a great job explaining the scriptures and texts. I hope more people who are seeking get to gain that understanding!
I can attest they in fact do not hide it. I've read the Bible many times. And I didn't "get caught up in it". I believe it because of the promptings of the Holy Spirit. The ultimate source of truth is God; I know I can go to Him to know if something is true. I don't need to trust solely upon the interpretations of men when I can talk to God in prayer.
Only mortals can get married and do certain other ordinances like baptism, which is why mortals do baptisms for the dead and temple sealings on behalf of the dead. Don't be amazed that eternal marriage exists.
@@Charles.Wright I looked up judaizers and no I don’t mean them. The people I am talking about say salvation comes by Christ alone, but they claim when God says, “keep my commandments if you love me” it includes the entire Torah. Like don’t eat pork get circumcised and keep the sabbath on Saturday. I haven’t heard their views on animal sacrifice or other clean and unclean rules.
Is it true that your tithing stops you from being burned up on 'the day that is to burn like an oven?' What I've lovingly heard called 'fire insurance'... Pres. Hinckley verified D and C 64. Your religion teaches you can buy safety with your 10% gross donation, does it not?
Hi Mike, I was wondering what your thoughts are about the recovery translation of the bible that you can order for free online from bibles for america?
Just as Satan twisted scripture to tempt Christ. There is no room in what Jesus said to make it mean anything other than what He said. It was concise and to the point, there is no giving and taking in marriage in heaven, we are as the angels. Man has a way of not understanding that things will not be in heaven as they are in the flesh body, that this age of flesh we now live in is only a part of God’s FULL PLAN.
In my Father's House are many Mansions: etc, so do you interpret this Blaspheme as something with an inside bigger then it's out? Or like castles in a mudhut?
So, Mike, what happens to the millions of married couples on earth when Jesus returns? They don't die and are not resurrected but are physically changed to have new, immortal bodies. What happens to those marriages? Will there be some kind of giant divorce proceeding?
Question doesn’t make sense. You’d have to believe the Bible to start asking questions about the trib. You’re mixing doctrines, heaven and earth, Christian’s and non, etc. Bible doesn’t say people don’t die when Jesus comes back…
@@Prin_Cess_007 1 Corinthians 15:51 is clear that not all will die and not all will be resurrected. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says that those who are alive will be raptured. so the question is in that context. what happens to married couples at that moment? Does their marriage continue or not?
Copying and pasting from another response I made: "The unity that God's people will have for one another in the new heaven and earth will be closer, more joyous, and more unified than what occurs here on earth with the distortion of sin. If you are married here on earth to someone and you both are in heaven, well, the relationship you have with them will be deeper and more complete than the marriage relationship you have with them now. Likewise for all of our relationships... we will have no need of marriage to foreshadow Christ's marriage to the Church because we will have the real thing, and our relationships will be perfectly unified with one another." So no, it is my opinion/interpretation that it is not like there will be a giant divorce proceeding (indeed there will instead be the marriage feast of the lamb). Our marriages and our experiences on this fallen earth will not disappear, but rather that they will be superceded by the perfect unity we will have in all relationships in the new heaven and new earth. The exaggerated question/example the Sadducees put to Jesus is answered as Jesus did... there will be no need for marriages in heaven as that relationship, as important as it is here on earth to foreshadow and imitate Christ's relationship to His Church, is nothing compared to the relationship the widow will have with all in heaven.
@@skyorrichegg What do you mean when say that marriage is important as a foreshadowing Christ's relationship to the church? What about the Edenic mandate to be fruitful and multiply? Is that not at least as important?
Hi Mike, I’m wondering if books like proverbs and Ecclesiastes still apply to Christians today since they are in the Old Testament? I always hear that if something isn’t repeated in the New Testament then it isn’t binding on Christians. Thank you
@christophertaylor9100 but didn't Mark or Peter say I will show my faith by my works. If Jesus comes back and I'm in sin, won't he choose not to rapture me? I figured faithfulness is a sign of true repentance, bit if I'm going back like a dog to his own vomit, I'm a hypocrite right?
@@benmoline6245 Absolutely faithfulness, but not perfection. We all sin and fall short of the Glory of God. Read Paul's amazing confession in Romans 7. Faithfulness is getting up and trying again out of love and gratitude for what was done, not perfection of life. The gospel gives us the motivation to try to live a better life and to turn to the cross and beg forgiveness for when we fail.
@@benmoline6245Hello brother, I often struggle with these kinds of thoughts too. Here are some verses to remember. 2 Corinthians 7:10, For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter. 1 John 1:9, If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Matthew 18:21-22, Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus said unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. Luke 17:3-4, Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.
Recently have seen Mormons talking about how Joseph Smiths rewriting of the Bible in The book of Moses closely resembles the later discovered book of Enoch. Trid to look into the similarities but haven't found any.
The book of Enoch was never lost. It was rejected because it was written in the inter-testimental period, ie over 3,000years after the events it is supposed to be talking about!
Mike: What causes this idea that one’s theology, dogma, belief or theological interpretation is the only one true? Is it born of the limited self-centered thought? Is it an extension of the glorification of traditional tribal god? Why do we want to limit God, truth, beauty or love to the level of a tribal mind?
I'm confused. Don't Mormons disregard all translations of the Bible as corrupt. Why would they feel the need to explain away particular scriptures when they could just as easily dismiss it as false.
The dozen or so Mormons I have talked to (my Dad's family are Mormons) is they use the King James version exclusively, and they say it is authoritative "insofar as it has been correctly translated." Which means, basically, if there's something in it that contradicts the Mormon scriptures then their version overrules whatever is in the Bible because it is not accurately translated. This is their philosophy for getting around sticking points where LDS clearly contradicts Biblical Christianity.
They use the KJV, but if it doesn't agree with the Book of Mormon they distort or ignore it. I'm no scholar on the matter, but that is what I've observed from the Mormons I have known or met with.
Mike, this topic always brings me to this question, and I’m wondering if you can shed some clarity on it for me. Matthew 22:29-30 (ESV): 29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. Jesus’ reply seems to indicate that the Sadducees didn’t know the scriptures in regards to marriage post resurrection. But I have been unable to locate any reference to this in the Old Testament. What scriptures was Jesus referring to in this discussion?
It's in 1st Enoch which was considered scripture and is still in the Ethiopian Bible, and found in the dead sea scrolls. A lot of believers try to discount this book because it's quite clear there is no trinity. Happy seeking! May YHWH bless you.
Why is there no marriage in the resurrected world when Adam and Eve were married in Eden? Did Jesus mean that there is only no marriage in heaven and not the new Eden? Could Adam and Eve have procreated before the fall? Can we procreate in the resurrected world?
Hi Mike, I was wondering today if the Bible talks about Jesus healing people with addictions? I've heard of him healing people that had diseases and impairments(things out of their control), but I was wondering if He healed those that were dealing with temptation(things in their control).
Can I ask how? I haven’t watched it but I am super wary of it so to the Mormon involvement. I know they had the “I am the law” line which is from the Book of Mormon. Are there more than that also? And one line is already too much
I have my concerns with The Chosen, but that has to do with more of an emphasis on appeasing too many orthodox denominations in its interpretations of scripture, for instance how they ambiguously handle Mary, Jesus's mother. In what ways do you see an emphasis of Mormon teachings in a show where the showrunner and its writers are all from orthodox Christian denominations?
@@YesterYear-Gaming because it makes people believe their theology is all good. It’s the candy to get into the van. Also everyone should know that the Mormon church is using it as an evangelistic tool.
@@skyorrichegg I have concerns with all of it. As someone who was in a Christian cult for 8 years, I can tell you the chosen is a great pr tool for the Mormon church and they are using it.
@@Eyesofmars2040 that something is a PR tool for false religions does not make it immediately wrong or bad. The LDS try and use the Bible and the name of Jesus to lend legitimacy to their cult but that does not mean those things are wrong, obviously. Likewise I can enjoy LDS authors such as Brandon Sanderson or Orson Scott Card (just as I can non-believers works) while realizing that they belong to a cult and I should be careful with everything they say. The Chosen seens to have a showrunner and writing team that entirely consists of people with no connection to the LDS church. I would like concrete examples of their bad/twisted theology before outright condemning the show. The show is not the Bible and should not be used as a replacement for the Bible, any more than any other biblically based entertainment in the past. With all that said I understand people having reservations about literally anything we do here on Earth and wanting to abstain to keep themselves from sinning. I abstain from alcohol because I know that I have an addictive personality and have struggled with similar things in the past, but I also know that there are plenty of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who can consume in moderation, unlike me.
The Hagia Sophia is or was originally a Christian Cathedral of Orthodox Christianity. Why denote the Hagia Sophia after mentioning Christian places of worship? Just curious is all.
An accurate descriptive video. Mike, you missed the biggest explanation of all. That we Latter-Day Saints believe there is no marriage OR baptism in heaven. Both have to take place on earth or by proxy on earth. Baptism is necessary to reach the Celestial Kingdom (John 3:5.) And eternal marriage is necessary to reach the 3rd degree of the Celestial Kingdom (D&C 131:2.) - Jared (Latter-Day Saint that watches Mike Winger's UA-cam channel)
These aren't hard to watch because of Mike. They are hard to watch because of how many people listen and don't know enough about the scriptures to question what he is telling them.
Please explain how, if a terrible sinner (terrible in our eyes, because all sin is equal in God's eyes) such as a rapist, pedophile, or murderer, who dies without repenting, can be allowed in Heaven simply because you or I went through the motions of being baptized using his/her name? The Bible says that once we're dead, that's it. We will face the Judgement Seat as we are. We are all responsible for our own standing with God, no-one else is responsible for our choices. Jesus chose to pay our sin debt, yes, but even He is not responsible for that debt!
The gospel (good news) as preached by Jesus and the Apostles is: The resurrection of the righteous dead and the Kingdom of God on the earth. This will happen, when Jesus returns to the earth.
@nanunutsunl5345 Brother Mike, why call me "good"? There is only One good---God The Father, and His Son who sits at His right-hand. The Son perfectly fulfilled the mission of The Father planned before the foundation of the world. Through Justification and Theosis, We are now made Kings and Priests unto God, and His Father.
Former mormon here, actually 3rd great granddaughter of Miranda Hyde...pictured in your podcast. Thank you for your channel, I have learned so much! I am a real Christian now and it amazes me how ignorant I was of bible teachings. I am currently getting close to finishing reading the Bible for the first time and almost daily witness how much mormon teachings do not jibe with God's word in the Bible. I think if I run into any Mormons in the future I would challenge them to read the Bible and not cross reference with their mormon publications. The Bible is so clear. .
I am glad to hear you was able to get out of the cult. I have also been in a "christian" cult and have learned to keep close to the truth of the Bible, to stay clear of cultish thinking. I think there have to be a deception, a form of brainwash or psycosis that keep us in beliving the lies of the cult. It is mind boggeling how millions can belive in lies when the truth is right in front of us.
This is great to hear.
Praise God that you’ve come to know the true Biblical Jesus! My husband and I (at different times) attended the Mormon church. He was born into it.
We both are now Christian. The Bible is amazing! I’m also getting close to finishing reading all the way thru. I’m following The Bible Recap and it’s been super helpful.
So I know a momon and he comes into the gas station where I work. He's very nice, always gives me a hug, and brings breakfast sometimes and I see him feeding the homeless a lot. But he brags a lot and also talks about his levels in heaven... He says he believes in Jesus and the resurrection tho... So as a true believer I don't know what to think. Have you met any Mormons like that?
@@YouLikeThat14 they use the same language, but their definitions are different.
Former Mormon here. I’m the 3rd great grandson of brigham young. Left mormonism (and all religion) at 18.
Jesus tracked me down 15 years later. The real Jesus. Praise God. Thanks for this great teaching
Amen brother 💛💛 happy ur home
So happy to hear you have been found by the true Jesus! I'm a pioneer descendant. I too left Mormonism at around 20 yrs. old. It took me longer , but God is faithful. Jesus came after me and awakened my dead heart. All glory to God! I've never been the same since. Praise the Lord ,oh my soul , and all that is within me...
So happy for you and your life in Jesus!!
@@danc226 Thank you Dan ! I praise the Lord for every soul that gets free in Jesus. I am praying for all those still decieved within Mormonism. Blessings to you in Jesus holy name.
I bet you are a trinitarian. Why don't you find the real Jesus, the son of God? John 17.3
I escaped mormonism at 17. It was wild. They tracked me down 600 miles away and knocked on the door. They wouldnt take me off the rolls unless my husband said it. Yes,I got married at 17. I still have family trapped in that nonsense.
you can learn handshakes newnamwnoah endowment video
They will come after you for sure. It's all fun and games until you try to leave-or get together with a nonmormon.
@@Jesus.is.king77799🤦🏻♂️🧚🏻♂️
Oh no! People knocked on your door! How scary!
Honestly you make it sound like they threatened you. Nobody “escapes” Mormonism. If you want to have your records removed or just not go to church anymore then you are welcome to.
@@Jesus.is.king77799manic delusional harassment and cult indoctrination, yeah lots of love lol
I’m in Utah and it’s a different beast here. But the blessing is it’s become my own mission field as I’ve also got their own resources to utilize. Library, museum, bookstores, etc to learn from and share with them - missionaries in my home or at temple square. Your videos have helped a ton as well Pastor Mike. Thank you for referencing sources because it helps me find them easier in their own books.
How do mormons react when you quote "their own" scripture that says there's only one God? Not one God in this universe, but one God and one universe. I think it would be pretty hard to get around that.
And in the case they say the Bible is flawed, then why would they follow the Bible at all? How would they know what parts are true and which ones aren't? What would be the point in reading it whatsoever? These are all questions I'd like to ask. Maybe I will, considering I live VERY close to the mormon holy land, palmyra New York. I actually used to live right in the center of the town, thousands of mormons would come here every year for hill cumorah. Mormon book stores and everything. It always infuriated me to see lots of children around their heretic parents, being lead straight to hell by the ones that are supposed to love them the most....
@@AR15andGOD the younger missionaries are often unaware and repaid with “I’ve never heard that” or “I don’t even know what that is”… and I’m allowing it all to organically come up in conversation. I let the Holy Spirit lead for sure so I’ll I’m doing is asking questions, listening and thoughtfully responding with a question to gain better understanding of what they’re saying or to plant a seed of what I’ve learned their own doctrine teaches and being up what the Bible says as well. They love it when people are curious so it’s the approach I take and the Lord leads. I always tell them I’m learning about it or am currently learning (insert my current time understanding X concept/teaching). Often times, it’s the older generations that I can have deep doctrinal conversations with, on LDS beliefs and the Bible.
Lol what??
“All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man or woman of God may be fully capable, equipped for every good work.”
2 Timothy 3:16-17 NASB
The “good works” include spreading the gospel. I rebuke what you said.
newnamenoah endowment do not pur on lucifers apron sign nothing
I'm shocked with the number of evangelicals that I speak to who believe that Mormons are traditional Christians of another denomination. It may carry the name Jesus in teachings but that only makes it a laughable situation for Satan himself
@@lisachambers3683what in tarnation? Are you a Mormon or something? What could possibly elicit such an absurd/out of left-field response?
@@lisachambers3683nothing that you’ve said is true but ok guy.
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@@lisachambers3683 Your conscience is pricking you because you believe in a false gospel and a false Jesus. You've been brainwashed
LOL 😆 : Mormons would tell you Evangelicals R the ones giving them the most criticism! They all know who I am as they call me their "Evangelical troll" of pointing out their counterfeit church.
Only an incredibly vain individual would ever seriously think they could become God
That’s quite literally what satan’s rebellion is all about
They have the audacity to suggest now that denial that one is God is arrogance instead of vice versa. It’s insane.
Exactly ,, " I will be like the most high " Isaiah 14:14
For most people, the trick is not to accept that proposition piecemeal, when they reject it on its face. "...but I can redefine marriage," etc.
The entire charismatic movement teaches they are already gods
@@krakoosh1 - That is incorrect . There may be a few "ultra-charismatics" that do , but it is primarily the " Prosperity Gospel movement " that teaches " you are gods " , and that is with a small "g" god , and bad as the ultra-charismatics are , the Prosperity gospel is far worse > Both groups take scripture out of context when , God says , " did I not call you gods " in the Psalms , God was actually rebuking the judges . Both groups fall short in representing true biblical christianity .. Also , a small "g" god is far from the Mormons Exaltation doctrine .. The comment above yours said it good " That's quite literally what satans rebellion is all about " ,, Isaiah ch 14 vs 14 - " I will be like the most high " . Instead of eluding to what other groups do or don't do , you should take a hard look at what Mormon Exaltation Doctrine teaches ,, a bigger fairy tale you will not find .
If I were a mormon, I could have NO respect or love for God at all... how could I love and respect something that isn't even God? Just a man playing God, with infinitely many before him.... If I personally get to become God, then being God means nothing. My God is unique, perfect, one of a kind, unchanging, eternal. One of One.
I’m a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (aka Mormons) and I love God with all my heart. I know Mr. Winger is doing what he believes is right and thats good but he doesn’t do a good job explaining Mormon doctrine in a fair or accurate manner.Thank you for commenting.
@@mckaythayn7060everything he said is accurate.
@@mckaythayn7060everything he said is one-hundred-percent fair and accurate if you don't know that then you don't study your own religion very well.
@@bobbyhempel1513 Actually no. When Mr. Winger says things like “You can’t actually find much Mormon doctrine in the Boon of Mormon” it’s not even a matter of him being 50% it’s just he doesn’t seem it’s worth the effort to do research beyond some quick Google searches.
@@disguisedcentennial835 He never fully explains the Mormon side/view fully and has a shaky understanding of whatever he reads related to the church. He seems to know Protestant doctrine well but that’s it.
One of the reasons I'm a Christian is because it's the only religion that is logically coherent. All other religions are so insane that I can't wrap my head around how someone can believe it.😵💫
Oops. So is Christianity!
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@@davidfayfield6594 - I have been reading the comments , and noticed that you imply that Christianity is insane as well . In what way do you find Christianity to be insane or logically incoherent ?
If you go back to the Bible rather than relying on human tradition, Christianity becomes really clear. Jesus said love your enemy and pray for the one who persecute you, Catholics, and others who follow their example, say that actually no, you should hate your enemy. Jesus said Shema, your God is one God, and that the Father is greater than I am, Catholics and those who follow their example say no, actually, God is simultaneously one and three. Jesus's teaching is simple, human make it confusing and inaccessible for their own ends. Better to go back to the scource.
I had 2 Mormons come to our home once, we gave them a dinner and as they were leaving we made a reference to the Bible and one of them said 'I can do without the Bible but not the Book of Mormon." That shows how they are a cult and the serious part is found in the book of Galatians to describe that cult " But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. [9] As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (twice it is spoken on that page as to the seriousness of being in that cult).
As a return missionary and convert to the LDS Church in my adolescence, I agree with you, Lioness of Judah. I have found in the chat rooms of Ward Radio and other pro-mormon websites, the best thing I can do for them is ask the questions I had that brought me to the truth. Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, who is not Satan’s brother, but Satan’s creator. If it wasn’t for Christ creating Lucifer, we would not have free will and the ability to choose between good and evil. Since Jesus the Creator is omniscient, He had foreknowledge of Lucifers pride and rebellion and the rebellion of a third of the Host's of Heaven. It was the only way to demonstrate His love for us while at the same time allowing us the opportunity to love in return. Without love, we are simply a tickling symbol even if we have all the other gifts of the spirit.
@@yosef6664What were some of the questions that led you away from the LDS church?
@@MM-jf1me There are hundreds.
newnamenoah video on handshakes?
Lord I pray against all evil deceptions of the enemy that have led many astray from the simplicity of your Gospel. Open up their eyes and their hearts to receive your words and come back to you Jesus, Amen.
How anyone can claim with a straight face that mormonism is not a cult is beyond me
They were a cult but I think they're more organized and less tyrannical now than they used to be.
@@christophertaylor9100anything that strays away from biblical teachings is considered a cult.
@@christophertaylor9100 - So now they are a more organized cult ? I don't think being a cult is based on organization , and levels of tyranny .
@@jeffwarren6906 You are describing what is more accurately called heresy. Not everyone agrees on what "cult" means. I haven't heard anyone call Gnosticism a cult for example. I think this association between cult and heresy has more to do with JW than anything.
In regards to my comment , which spoke of organization & tyranny , how did you come up with " heresy " as the better way to describe what I was saying . As far as not everyone agreeing on what " cult " means is of no matter , as biblical Christianity declares a cult to be any group such as Mormons or JWs , in that they not only do not follow biblical Christianity , but also use outside sources for principles & doctrine , and follow a Jesus other than the Jesus of the Bible . I still find it difficult to figure out how you came up with heresy as describing more accurately what I said about organization & tyranny . Thank you though for the reply
Compliments to you on this presentation on LDS. So many others have said the same thing BUTm, you properly show the references in LDS scripture to back it up! that is important as we need to learn more of the falicy of the morman faith. thank you
Thank you for pointing how their beautiful buildings tend to be deceptive. I've seen this so many times with roman catholics, Orthodox and some Christian denominations. Its very easy to get caught up in the outward beauty of the that you believe that they must be more spiritual. Its excatly how the Pharisees operated.
Masonic temples too.
I really appreciate your way of responding to LDS attacks from other channels like Ward Radio, is that you simply quote and reference LDS prophets and doctrine. It's refreshing brother, that you don't retaliate, but simply share facts. God bless you.
So sad they are deceived to such an extent.
God bless Mike Winger and this youtube ministry!
Isaiah 43:10
God said, "There is no other God- there never has been, and there never will be."
Joseph Smith said, God was once a man like us and we can also become gods, repeating the same lie that the devil himself said to Adam and Eve. Sadly millions of Mormons are walking straight to hell because of it. As an ex-mormon and a born again Christian, this concerns me because I have a lot of Mormon family and friends.
OK. Please explain to me, how an ordinary man became the Creator of everything, when there was nothing before Creation? Who created that ordinary man?
Sorry, but the Everlasting Father God Almighty Created the World & everything in it, & Mankind was, if memory serves, the FINAL Creation. There could NOT have been an "ordinary man" before Creation since Mankind hadn't been Created yet. This explanation from the LDS, seems to me to be as full of knots, & as wound up, as cotton candy!
I roomed with a nice, sweet, Mormon young lady, & was interested in learning what she believed & why, but with all our time together & our talks, she could not explain things in a way I could even come close to making a sensical thought from! She simply spouted their verbiage over & over! As a Born-Again Christian, I could do the same, but I have expressive aphasia after a stroke, so what I SAY from my mouth may NOT be the same as what my brain said! She didn't have this disorder.
I must say that I admire a lot of things about the Mormons,. They have wonderful community support, both in their own community & the community at large, they are very kind & compassionate people. But overlooking The Lord's own teachings to follow a man's teaching, is not one of those things I admire.
I am curious as to the joseph smith translation of Isaiah 43:10 is? I can't find it online
You have a misconception about the trinity. You're thinking of it in terms of addition not multiplication. There are 3 persons in 1 God. The Father, the Word and the Spirit. These 3 agree with each other. If it were a case of 3 Gods in 3 persons they would each be equally powerful, equally intelligient and equally omniopetent, but be able to disagree with each other and act contrary to one will. Thus they would be a house divided against itself. But the fact that they agree with each other in the essence and spirit of Truth, that which is IS, aka "I AM", that's what makes 3 persons in 1 God possible. And the concept of the trinity is established as early as Genesis 1:26. So it isn't as though it's a new "Christian" doctrine. It's simply revealed as it truly is in fullness and as has been told throughout All of the OT. Even if you were to go at it simply by identifying who is the Messiah, using first what is in the Old Testament, you would come to the conclusion that the Messiah would be God incarnate, on Earth in the form of Flesh, born of a woman, of the line of David. And that's just a handful of identifying characteristics. There's only One person in all of history who properly checks out all of those characteristics. Jesus of Nazareth. Think about it like this, God is the spirit of Truth. What he speaks is part of him and in Truth and with the capability of free will, the ability to write reality as he sees fit, what he speaks comes to pass and be so. That word is part of him even though it is not him directly, just like if you speak to someone and you're having a conversation with them, the words you are speaking Are you. They represent your inner feelings, thoughts and capacity for communicating information through expression. And the more earnest you are at speaking from the heart, the more your authentic self is conveyed. That's sort of how it is with God and his Word. But what establishes them and keeps them as the "I AM" is the Holy Spirit. God cannot be un-true. It is his very essence of truth that allows for things to be and that is embodied in his Holy Spirit. In other words if you know that someone did you a kindness and you know that someone personally, so much that if they Did do something kind for you, you knew that it came from them without them being there or telling you, that's the same way that Gods Holy Spirit attests to him for his works. Now why the need for 3 persons in One? Instead of Just 1? I think personally for 2 reasons.
1) God is a very loving being. He's big on Family and he loves those especially who are true like he is. So it seems to be safe to think he started his family within himself.
2) Is God doesn't just make claims. God is the very spirit of Truth, and I know I'm saying that a lot but it's because I perceive that throughout history and within our modern culture we undervalue just how big a deal truth is. Think about it, Truth is that which IS. It's circular reasoning and yet it's the only kind of legitimate circular reasoning. So that being said, one can presume that the reason God is 3 persons in 1 conducting with utter agreement is because God gave himself 2 witnesses to his claim. That he is God, the truth and that he IS. This might not all make sense, I don't usually have the best means of conveying what I'm trying to say but I think generally what I'm trying to tell you is in what I said up there. Maybe go over it a few times. Because ultimately the fact is mere Christianity alone is enough to prove not only that God exists but who God is. "Mere Christianity" being that Jesus died by crucifixion under Pontius Pilate in Judea in 33AD before the destruction of the 2nd temple in 70AD and because of him resurrecting, which Christianity would never have gotten off the ground without, the fallout is that the entire world knows about the God of the Bible. And if Mere Christianity is true which preceeds Mormonism and does not abolish Judaism but rather fulfills it, it's safe to presume, though smart to fact check, that if the teachings within the Gospel are true then mormonism is not only false it's a deliberate stumbling block to prevent children of God from entering his rest. And the only thing preventing anyone from seeing the truth is their own bias, pride, vanity and heart. Because Jesus' teachings preceed Joseph Smith for Centuries, and although the same could be said about Jesus and Judaism the fact is Jesus didn't change the law. He didn't say "yeah it's okay to sleep with whoever, whenever and in Heaven it continues." He said I'll go a step further beyond the law and give you grace and truth: "You've heard you shall not commit adultery, but I tell you, whoever looks at a woman to lust after her in his heart has committed adultery with her already in his heart." Whereas Joseph Smith Did change the law so that he could sleep around while Appearing for it to not only be Legal but God endorsed. And that is not what Jesus taught. Jesus being the person who many knew, even his enemies to be the most personal representative of God man has ever known. Greater than any former prophet because he actually Was God among us. Bottom line, Joseph Smith is a false prophet. Someone Jesus even warned about. The only way past his diversion is to humble your heart and go seek after the truth. You can find it in the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.
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Good video Pastor Mike, I found your channel through researching Mormonism a few years back. Like you said, these temples they are building are indeed beautiful, ON THE OUTSIDE. However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: Acts 7:48 keep up the good work brother!
They’re pretty beautiful on the inside too. And the people who attend them are good people filled with light who have no concern other than serving their fellow man.
And God does dwell in temple buildings, the passage you cited is saying that God is not *confined* to the temple. But scripture is clear in dozens of other places that God’s presence did dwell in the temple of Solomon, the 2nd temple, and will dwell in the temple in Zion in the last days, as told in Revelation.
So if you want to say that your two verses in Acts are outright contradicting and overruling dozens of other passages consistent throughout the rest of the Bible, have at it.
@@KnuttyEntertainment You sound like a Mormon, a couple things stand out to me in your post. You said "They’re pretty beautiful on the inside too. And the people who attend them are good people" BUT God tells us the only one that is good is God , see Luke 18:19 And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. If you want to argue against that you are arguing with Jesus. Secondly, under the New Covenant (which you are under) the tearing of the veil to the Holy of Holies recorded in Luke 23:45 God left and no longer occupied the temple in Jerusalem made with human hands and only occupied His eternal temple; Heaven.
@@red.362 If you’re response to someone colloquially calling something “good” is to automatically reply “None are good but God!” (Which would include Jesus in the context of that passage.) then you can never use the word “good” for anything. Good luck removing the most common words in English from your vocabulary, or well, I guess it wouldn’t be “good” luck then.
I’ll put it this way: Latter-day Saints are certainly not good as God, but demographic studies show that they are better than all other Christian denominations in all metrics. Happier, healthier, more generous, better educated, know the Bible better, better families, and on and on.
As for the temple thing, Latter-day Saints believe that this is the last dispensation and that Christ has set them to the work of preparing for the 2nd coming. The church that will exist in Zion, is the same organization as exists today in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are under the millennium covenant of Christ, not just the covenant established in the New Testament. And Christ re-established temple worship as part of that covenant. Why else would there be a temple in Zion in the last days if it was forever abolished never to be reinstated?
And the veil tearing does not represent God leaving the temple. The veil represents Christ: his atonement covers us and allows us to endure the presence of God, which lies on the other side of the veil, that is why no man comes into the father except through Christ. The father is covered, no man has seen or known him, except by the son which reveals and testifies of him. The veil tears because Christ died. He bridged the gap between man and God, and during his death he led the spirits in prison out of captivity and led the way for them to go to paradise. Having paid the price of sin, Christ can now cover us individually, making our bodies into temples of the Holy Spirit through the gift of the Holy Ghost.
This does not mean that God left the temple building. A temple by definition is the place where heaven and earth intersect. It also doesn’t mean that Christians ceased doing temple worship before the temple was ultimately destroyed in 70 AD. That’s still over 30 years of Christian temple worship.
@@KnuttyEntertainmentGod dwells in us and when more than 2 Christian’s r together worshipping- mormons arent Christian’s so God doesnt dwell in u or the mormon temple 💛🤟
@@Jaaccoobbbb Never heard that one before. Tell me, which criteria set by Christ excludes Latter-day Saints. Would you say the Good Samaritan is saved? Christ sets him as the standard of loving thy neighbor, and says that if you do likewise that you shall have eternal life. Samaritans had idolatrous and pagan beliefs and yet Christ never excluded them. Demographic studies show that Latter-day Saints are more generous, neighborly, service oriented, and know the Bible better than both the general population, and all other Christian denominations. In other words, they produce the best fruits in the Christian world, a bad tree cannot produce good fruit.
“By this shall men know ye are my disciples, that you have love one to another.”
Why do you say Latter-day Saints aren’t Christian? Because they don’t believe in the trinity? The trinity was invented centuries after Christ, none of the apostles or the earliest church fathers believed in either, that’s just a historical fact. And Latter-day Saints claim to be a restoration of the pre-Nicene church, so of course they wouldn’t believe in the trinity.
I'm always astonished at how Mormons have messed with every aspect of Christianity. I've learned so much with your videos, so thank you. I am waiting on the Lord to open a door for me to witness to my Mormon friend.
The problem is Mike gets most everything wrong about latter-day Saints, or at the least he frames it in the most ridiculous and uncharitable light.
@@KnuttyEntertainment What's he getting wrong in this video?
@@lisachambers3683what?!
@@mongo4utube I made a whole comment about this video, I’ll copy-paste for you:
Mike makes a lot of mistakes about Mormonism, again.
Before anything else, let’s just get it out of the way that becoming gods is Biblical:
First, we are outright called gods, the very children of God (Psalm 82:6/John 10:34) and children can grow up to become like their parents (Romans 8:16-17). And just as Jesus was glorified to rule like his Father, so shall we rule as they do (Revelation 3:21), for we shall also be like them in that way (1 John 3:2). Indeed we are commanded to become perfect like God the Father is perfect, and God would not give us a commandment that would be impossible for us to keep (Matthew 5:48). And in so doing we may become one with Jesus and the Father the same way they are one with each other (John 17:20-23).
Now very little is known about exaltation, Mike is operating off the Infinite Regress theory, which is only really speculation and not held by most Latter-day Saint theologians. He’s making much more definitive claims than we would.
And his framing is especially egregious. He makes it sound like missionaries come upto people and tell them “if you become Mormon, then in heaven you get a harem of pregnant goddesses where you endlessly have sex in order to populate your own personal planet, pretty great huh?” Not at all how any of this works.
First, about sex and children. While gods are capable of procreating, they probably don’t do it all that often, their flesh doesn’t carry that carnal lust in the resurrection, and it’s not very necessary either considering their power to create. When gods procreate, they produce after their kind, just like scripture says all things produce after their own kind. The physical children of God would be immortal beings like Adam and Christ (though Christ could still die if he chose because he inherited mortality from his mother).
Spiritual children are an entirely different story. You don’t have physical sex to create spiritual embryos. We believe spirits are material, but they’re not biological in that way. In Mormonism, there is no creation ex nihilo. There is an infinite number of co-eternal spirits floating around out in the ether, we are all the same age. God takes these spirits, conforms them to his image and makes them his children. In this new ordered environment with a new name and new ability to make distinctions, these spirits are then enabled to develop, progress, and mature in their knowledge, eventually inheriting all the their Father has. That’s how God designed it, he saw he was the most intelligent of the spirits, so he created a path by which they could progress as himself, all things producing after their kind.
When these spirits are fully mature in knowledge, power, and righteous, they become gods (not God, there is only One Most High God who is self sufficient, he is god of Gods, Deuteronomy 10:17). And as gods they are now qualified to take part in the family business of rearing the spirits to become gods. So God gives them stewardship over parts of his kingdom, they foster spirit children and rule over and help create worlds. This is exactly what God does in Deuteronomy 32:8-9. He divvies up all the people of the world into nations and then gives a nation to each of his godly children, with Jehovah/Jesus inheriting Israel.
Next, about the Polygamy thing. It is true that you can have multiple active marriage sealings: one to your current wife, and others to deceased wives. However that does not mean you become polygamous in heaven. We don’t know if there’s polygamy in heaven, and I would err on the side of there isn’t.
Joseph Smith’s polygamy was not really a sexual thing. It was really more about sealing things in heaven and earth, which joins the family trees of two people, the ultimate goal being to connect all of humanity in one big heavenly family. People were sealed to each other as blood brothers and godfathers, it encompassed all types of relationships.
And we know for a fact that many of Joseph’s “wives“ were never even in the same room alone. These are really more religious betrothals than marriages, and Joseph Smith was really very hesitant to start the practice. For example, his first three plural wives after starting the practice were all like 7 months pregnant, so Joseph couldn’t be having sex with them, probably the reason he chose to be sealed to them, so that he could get around the part of the practice. And yes, they did have husbands, but the husbands knew about it, and it didn’t really bother them because they knew it wasn’t a sexual thing. A lot of Joseph’s other wives were widows that were too old to be sex partners, so not exactly harem material.
The few where we don’t know if Joseph had sex with, are heavily debated. (Often Latter-day Saints arguing he did have sex with them in opposition to other denominations claiming that Joseph Smith didn’t practice polygamy at all. And considering the severe lack of evidence, they actually have a solid case that he didn’t.) What we do know is that Joseph, despite having like 10 kids with his first wife, never had kids with anyone else.
And finally, that passage about No marriage in heaven is saying there are no weddings in heaven, no new marriages, people already married will continue to be married. And second, they’re using the example of Levirite marriage (Deuteronomy 25:5-10, actually not too dissimilar to the practice held under Brigham Young). Christ is saying there is no need for levirite marriage in heaven, because the first husband is there. That first marriage is of a different type than the Levirite marriages and is still in force, so there is no need for the woman to be married an 8th time to re-marry her first husband.
As for the thing about marriage only being for good people, I think Mike is referencing a passage in Doctrine and Covenants about how only the exalted are married in heaven, and that the others are as the angels in heaven, which is true, but only tangentially related to the topic.
He got nothing wrong. I'm a former Mormon 34 yrs, devout, temple attending, RS pres.
Mike is correct.
It's not talked about over the pulpit or in basic lesson manuals.
Attend a high priest meeting or listen carefully to older temple covenants. Read older Mormon doctrine.
The LDS church has been trying for years to look Christian.
If only chapel Mormons had all the older books I had. It's all in there in black and white.
@mikewinger please do an episode on racism in the Mormon church regarding skin color and how in modern times they have suddenly changed their stance to include all nationalities being eligible to be Mormon.
There _will_ be marriage in heaven...but only _ONE:_ Christ Jesus and the Church!
There is no marriage in heaven
@@bhalliwell739 "Let us rejoice and be glad and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear.”
(Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of God’s holy people.)
Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God,” Revelation 19:7-9 (NIV).
@@jonhilderbrand4615 that would be imagery talking not literal Gospel Luke 20 34-35
@@bhalliwell739 I believe the Luke passage is intended to refer to marriage between humans, the "people of this age" (vs. 34). The marriage feast of the Lamb is quite real, with multiple referents to the church as the bride of Christ elsewhere in scripture: "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy. I promised you to _one husband, to Christ,_ so that I might present you as a pure virgin to him," II Corinthians 11:2; "Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For _the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church,_ his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything," Ephesians 5:22-24; "I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared _as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband,"_ Revelation 21:2; "One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, 'Come, I will show you _the bride, the wife of the Lamb,'”_ Revelation 21:9. At least twice in the gospels, Jesus alludes to himself as the bridegroom: "Jesus answered, 'How can the guests of the bridegroom mourn while he is with them? The time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; then they will fast," Matthew 9:15; The Parable of the Ten Virgins, Matthew 25:1-13; and John the Baptist refers to the Messiah as the bridegroom in John 3:29-30.
Hey Mike, I have recently been binge watching your vids. Great teachings with wonderful clarification from the Word! I just came across the whole debacle with Tim Hurd and Doctrinal Watchdog. What a test of your faith and dedication to His Word. For what it is worth I have learned so much from you and I think you are one of the best teachers online. It was surely a lesson for me in being so careful with "discernment" ministries and always checking out the facts before making any judgements. Please don't be discouraged. You have touched more lives for the glory of Christ than you know.
I just saw that video this morning and it's heart breaking that they would lie about him. He's a phenomenal teacher of the gospel ❤🙏
You left a Beautiful comment that I agree with 💯
As a return missionary and convert to the LDS Church in my adolescence, I agree with you. I have found in the chat rooms of Ward Radio and other pro-mormon websites, the best thing I can do for them is ask the questions I had that brought me to the truth. Praise Yeshua Hamashiach, who is not Satan’s brother, but Satan’s creator. If it wasn’t for Christ creating Lucifer, we would not have free will and the ability to choose between good and evil. Since Jesus the Creator is omniscient, He had foreknowledge of Lucifers pride and rebellion and the rebellion of a third of the Host's of Heaven. It was the only way to demonstrate His love for us while at the same time allowing us the opportunity to love in return. Without love, we are simply a tickling symbol even if we have all the other gifts of the spirit.
@@lisachambers3683
Since you obviously don't believe in the God of the Bible, which demon do you worship?
We had free will before the fall, just as we will have free will after our deaths in full spiritual regeneration. We will simply have no will to enact evil, just as before our original fore bearers sins. Full restoration
Why does the LDS Church teach that man first existed as spirits in heaven when 1 Corinthians 15:46 says that the physical body comes before the spiritual?
@@AR15andGOD
Not only restored, but finally complete.
Male and female created He them.
In the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage.
That means Adam and Eve were never meant to be the full manifestation of God's image, but merely a step in the process He is using to create the universe atheists complain we don't have, one with no evil, sin, or death.
@lisachambers3683 Colossians Chapter One:
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
16 For in him, all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.
17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,
20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.
Mike really grateful for your informative youtube channel. Blessings
Imagine getting married to your sweetheart and then Joseph Smith walks up and says “dibs” and now she’s having his babies in heaven 💀
Sad thing is that that's not that far from a situation recorded in the Joseph Smith papers. I used to a member and the more I read the JS papers the more certain I become.
We currently live in Utah, thank you for all the helpful info 🙌🏼
The common pattern in heresy is the denial of plain Scripture.
@@lisachambers3683 the Trinity is clearly in Scripture, and I'm not going to debate that core issue with you even though you'd like to argue about it. Don't waste your time and mine even replying to this comment because I'll just ignore it.
@@lisachambers3683 The Trinity is found in John 1:1.
There are MANY biblical passages that refute your position including, but not limited to; the gospels, 1john, Revelation and even Genesis!
@lisachambers3683 you say to provide specific scripture and when someone does you still don't believe it.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1 John 5:7 KJV
Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
John 14:8-9 KJV
Jesus is God in flesh, not a created being!
I encountered their missionaries here in the Netherlands, they came from the US but spoke quite good Dutch to ‘sell’ their cult to people here….😱
It's part of their training. When they reach a certain age they are required to enter missionary duty and often learn a new language. Their entire day is regimented with each hour mapped out. They're only allowed to contact their families once a week and on specific holidays. Before 2019 they could only contact their parents on holidays. They essentially have no free time to do anything else, including questioning their message.
They are a crafty cult .. God bless , Jeff in the USA
I ONLY have 1 wife and she IS heavenly and PERFECT for me!!!
In the Mighty Name Of Jesus Christ, Amen.
I trust and believe that!!!!🌈🌈🌈
Did your wife tell you to write that?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No!!!!!
Another twisting that ive hears when I bring up this verse is "well they arent married in heaven....thats why they have to be married down here, so they can be sealed in heaven" like they think the verse is only talking about weddings.
I was raised in the Mormon church and am still officially a member. What do you think of the recent attempts by the Mormon Church to de-emphasize their problematic doctrine and appear like a Christian Church? Specifically, they now say “we never taught ______”, also they are using Christian language, like using “grace”, I just heard a video say “sermon” instead of “talk”. 🤯 They recently got Google Maps to change their icon to a cross, as well. Do you think this is going to work? Will Christians fall for it?
Christians unfortunately ARE falling for it as the importance of doctrine and truth are deemphasized in favor of unity for unity’s sake. Christians who are new to the faith or who have failed to do proper research into good theology are especially vulnerable. More mature or experienced Christians will pick up that something is off, but depending on the situation, it’s possible that it could take longer to realize they’re talking to a Mormon. I’m assuming you’re still officially a member because of circumstances out of your control (some people just can’t let go!), but if you can, I hope you’re able to break away entirely.
It's one thing to confess and repent, and another to deny a sin in the first place.
If they were to say, "We just figured out all these things were horrible, heretical lies: [and then list all the relevant doctrines,] and we will henceforth use the Bible as our sole directory for doctrine. Let's all repent now and seek the true Christ we have denied for over a century," then it would be good.
Instead, they stand there, chocolate covered cheeks, and saying they have no idea who ate all the ciokies, and they have never even known there was a kitchen in the house in the first place.
Nope.
Unacceptable.
Also, to have your name on some membership rolls or not, isn't really the important thing.
If you are in God's book of life, then the rest of the lists are mere inventions of men.
If you reject the islam/mormon heresy utterly and tell them to remove your name, or if you reject it utterly and ignore the fact you are on their list, I don't see really much difference.
Closure, maybe, or ceremonial or formal proceedings.
I'm not a memberbof the church I go to, but the pastor nevertheless worries if he doesn't see me on Sunday,.
Google changed to crosses, I just looked that up, wow! What were they before?
@@mongo4utubeDepictions of the angel Moroni, whose image is also found on steeples of their buildings instead of crosses. (To my knowledge, Moroni is the name of an angel only found in LDS literature. I've never heard of him outside of LDS-related culture.)
I wont fall for it. I am a former Mormon, now born againChristian ( All glory to God!)
I know their many lies. They continue to create more lies to appear more Christian, but they are NOT. 😢
They still have my family decieved.
Please pray for the Mormons. ❤
I know you have other videos on this but please go deeper in polytheism vs monotheism as it pertains to the lds church, I’ve been doing research thru you, apologia studios and inspiring philosophy and I’m trying to learn as much as possible. Your ministry is a blessing thanks for all you do Pastor Mike!
Math is helpful to me to understand the Trinity. 1+1+1=3. 1×1×1=1.
@@lisachambers3683 I suggest you read John again my friend.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Rev 1: 7 “Look, he is coming with the clouds,”
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.”
So shall it be! Amen.
8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”
17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last. 18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
Rev 1:17 is a clear refference again, to God himself in the old testament
Isaiah 44:6 (NIV):
"This is what the LORD says-Israel's King and Redeemer, the LORD Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God."
If that isn,t clear then you truly are blind.
@@lisachambers3683 it's actually the second one contrasting the first one of Muslim ignorance !
No parts : buddy all 3 persons R 100% God.
What are you curious about exactly that pertains to monotheism vs polytheism as is relates to the LDS church? I see you mentioned knowing Mike has other videos on Mormonism; have you had a chance to catch up on those yet, or have you watched them and are still confused?
i believe heaven is full of every soul that genuinely loved their neighbors and enemies
What about loving Jesus?
@@quantumfrost9467 I believe Jesus loves and welcomes all creation. We must learn to do the same. In that diverse and humble environment, we will all see more clearly, repent of the sins and ignorance and harm we cause.
Can you help me understand what you mean by “genuinely love” Stacie? I would say that nothing from our own fleshly desires are genuine. Jesus is the standard, and the Holy Spirit is the facilitator of the kind of Love that exists.
@@PizzaFvngs there are altruistic people in everyday life. what parent wouldn't risk their own life to save a child? Even strangers and people of other faiths will lay down their life to save another. People learn to love even their enemies and struggle and risk to create a safe community that includes everyone. I believe everyone that strives to love their family, neighbors and enemies are welcomed into God's arms. If i have to reject others to make it into heaven then that is not the Heaven of the God I encounter in life.
I'm going to assume you're not a Christian then? @@staciewittenmyer1011
I had the opportunity to participate in a small group at church led by our lead pastor, going over the book Mormonism 101 by Eric Johnson (would definitely recommend, it goes over Mormon theology and answers the question of why they aren't Christian). We then got to meet the author and got to visit a Mormon temple opening up in our town to see what it's like inside. It's really important to learn why Mormon's aren't Christian because they really like to use that term to describe themselves. And that they are one of the largest growing religious groups is scary because they are reaching out to those who are open to faith or who are on the fence on certain beliefs. I'm glad videos like this exist to show not only Mormons, but non-believers, the path to true Christianity.
Which church is practicing true Christianity?
@@tongakhan230 its not about the church, its about believing the Bible without the teachings that are outside of it that are treated like the bible in these heretical denominations.
@@user-ly3li3ex8c : Logically all or even some of the churches cannot say they believe the Bible. If so, why are they divided on issues?
Here is some good advice.
1 Corinthians 4:6...., that through us you may learn the rule: “Do not go beyond the things that are written,”
Only ONE UNITED GROUP of Jesus' Disciples believe and preach what the Bible teaches. Here is how to identify them.
(John 13:35) By this all will know that you are my disciples-if you have love among yourselves.”
Jesus saves ,,,at 3d Federal savings and loan. So send me $5000 so I can give it to him.
It always amuses me when people who believe in resurrection, global floods, young earth, donkeys can talk , etc object to other beliefs
Do LDS believe that when you are exalted to a god, that you will have dominion over your own planet or your own universe? If it's the former, do they believe it would be in a different galaxy or just a different solar system? Do they believe there was an "original" god that created the universe(s) that all gods after that were given dominion over/in?
Planet, different solar system, and as far as I know they don’t have a true creation point
@@disguisedcentennial835 If it's a different solar system within our own galaxy, then we surely would have found one of those plants by now you'd think. Especially if this has been going on for an infinite amount of time. Even if we're talking other galaxies, given that amount of time, you'd think we would have found something by now.
I have no idea. It is enough to know that I will be joint heirs with Christ as he taught and that my Father has a mansion prepared for me, also as Christ taught.
Yes, many have speculated what that might look like, but what I know is that I am to bring myself to Christ and trust he will sort out the rest. And I am grateful to God every day for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and how it draws me closer to Christ.
Hi Mike. Was following tips for UA-cam channel and have an idea how you can help. Make a video of how we, as Christian users can help channels grow and also how we can help channels we did sub to maintain relevancy.
Scriptures may present difficult or controversial ideas, but the lens through which we interpret these texts makes all the difference. Where is Pastor Mike's "Holy Envy" in all of this? Why is there a lack of effort to explore other, perhaps more charitable, ways to understand complex ideas found it others' sacred texts?
Consider these parallel examples:
[*] D&C 132:55 (Doctrine and Covenants): "But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him..."
Critical: "A convenient revelation that justifies Joseph Smith's polygamy."
Neural: "A complex religious text that sparks debate over polygamy."
Affirming: "A divine injunction to unify amidst a crisis period of marital strife."
[*] Acts 10:15 : "What God has cleansed, you must not call common."
Critical: "Peter leverages a 'divine message' to justify his secret love of pork."
Neutral: "A turning point in the spread of early Christianity."
Affirming: "Peter's divine guidance to embrace inclusivity in faith."
[*] Jeremiah 19:1-2, 9-10: "Thus says the LORD, ‘Go, buy a potter’s earthenware jar... then you shall break the jar in the sight of the men who accompany you... I will make them eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters."
Critical: "Prophet claims divine instruction to justify canabal acts."
Neutral: "A strong metaphor used to stress the impending doom due to Israel's disobedience."
Affirming: "A prophetic warning meant to incite repentance and return to godly ways."
Not to mention in much detail, but there are many other examples . . . Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son Isaac (Genesis 22), the conquest of Canaan led by Joshua (Book of Joshua), the Prophet Hosea's marriage to a promiscuous woman (Hosea 1) -- it's rather easy and disingenuous to take the most critical view ascribing ill-intent and write out those headlines in the worst light possible.
I am active LDS. Please when slandering us and the church, I would ask you use the correct name: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Thank you!
I grew up in Utah and all of you were called Mormons even by members for many decades at least. This seems like a "under new management" ploy.
The church of the brother of Satan of Latter Day Saints is also another way to describe the church according to Mormon theology , Just because it has the name of Jesus in the title doesn’t mean it’s correct , The book of John clearly says who Jesus is and it isn’t the Mormon Jesus and is why you are in grave danger
It just came to mind. Mormons and JWs no longer come to my neighborhood. We are so fortunate.
Around 1:15-1:20. It is wrong to compare what Satan told Eve to our belief in exaltation. Satan’s lie in the garden was not “ye shall be as gods” the phrase “ye shall be as gods” is referring to their ability to discern good and evil. This is confirmed in gensis 3:22 “And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:” Satan’s lie was that they wouldn’t die, but he told the truth that after they ate they would know good and evil like how God knows the difference between good and evil.
I’m not sure what you mean by forbidden knowledge. If you mean the difference between good and evil as i was commenting about, then i would refer you to a chapter in the book of Mormon that describes the necessity of the fall and how without it we would not be able to understand happiness or misery or the joy of our redemption through Christ. The chapter is 2 Nephi chapter 2.
Also my comment was quoting the KJV of the bible. My comment was rooted in the Word of God.
Thank you so very much.
@Mike Winger
Please, can you do an episode on Shephard's Chapel, and Arnold Murray....
I really recommend listening to the first 3 mins of this video with the Star Trek main theme on in the background. It probably emulates what these crazy Mormons feel about their forgeries
I believe mixing blood or a blood extract in stuff like concrete can give it that beautiful white look, I saw a patent somewhere for it the other day. Not sure what it's made out of, but it reminded me of that patent.
Thanks Mike. Does the Bible say categorically there's no marriage, or does it say they neither marry nor are given in marriage? There's a difference - that Mormons can jump on. After all even most Christians will talk about the marriage of the lamb as something real. (Rev19:7) And we don't see this as a biblical contradiction. I feel to make the strongest case against Mormonism, we must admit the limits of what the Bible says and admit the limits of our knowledge. We will be like the angels it says - yet we have no idea whether angels have relationships with each other. Marriage by biblical definition ends in death, so I imagine that whatever the situation re relationships in eternity a new term would probably be needed. Not trying to Swedenborg marriage in, but just saying there's space/possibility for love in eternity without contradictions.
Why does a god need saving?
And whom does a god need saving from?
Still have yet to get an answer from any mormon to these 2 questions.
Why does a God need sacrificing and what gift is so great it requires the voluntary sacrifice of a perfect God?
@HaleStorm49 reconciliation with God and eternal life are the gifts so great that warrant a perfect sacrifice.
Now your turn to answer my questions.
@@jeremyramsey8804 Sure, but one point of clarification.
You are using the term eternal life, but what does that actually mean? Most sectarians use it interchangeably with salvation...but when the rich ruler asked Christ about eternal life...Christ gave a very specific answer that does not align with the modern christian roadmap for salvation. What is eternal life and how does it differ from salvation?
@HaleStorm49 it means that you're not in God eternal wrath or in other words tje second death.
Are you going to keep peppering me with questions or are you going to answer mine?
I lost it at earth 2.0 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mormonism is really belittling to God and Christianity.
My mom and me lived with her friend when I was younger and that friends parents were Mormons and I went to the LDS church when I was younger so I was around it but so glad it didn't stick. It's for sure a false teaching.
😂 right off the bat... Destroyed the Mormon god claim. 🙏🏾 ✝️
LOL "nobody can whitewash a sepulcher like they do"
“Like satan” not “like they do.”
“Billions and billions of babies” so much celestial sex
Can you do an analysis on the Snake Handling Churches.
You can tell satan influenced this disgusting false religion. I pray that many come to know the true Jesus and get saved
Amen
Sounds like hell for women
I saw a Mormon church buildning and it looked frightening. It gave an impression of power and it looked cold, hard and did not look like a christian church at all. I dont understand how modern mormons can put the book of mormon above the Bible when they know their book is based of Joseph Smiths false language on the gold tablets he conned his followers to belive was an ancient language only he could intepret. Scientists have since then examined the language Smith inventet and there is no doubt it is fake. Still Mormons belive the lie. How is it possible that millions belive the many lies of their faith? Is it mass psycosis of some sort? Thanks for your work.
Deception if not initially always and ultimately becomes a choice.
Becoming like god is what the bible teaches. If children, then heirs and coheirs with jesus. Everything that jesus has been granted is for us. Godhood
That is what the serpent offered. Are you so blind?
@@Charles.Wright it's Romans 8:17. Paul, not the serpent
Can you do a video on the UPCI?
Someone's sore about the scolding they got on Ward Radio
Thank you, Mike. LDS Apostles, NAR Apostles...what's the difference?
LDS people are Christians and are not satanic
Hi Mike!
I wonder how they justify that belief when Jesus specifically says there is no marriage in heaven 🤔🙏
The Eastern Orthodox Church believes that the sacremental marriage is an eternal union. St John Cryssostom seems to expouse this view in his letter to the young widow. I think it's an error to say that only the western interpretation of marriage in the eschaton is correct, given historically orthodox alternative views which dominate in the east. That being said, the mormon idea of marriage is an innovation and perversion of orthodox marriage.
How does the eastern church justify what Jesus says in the Gospels?
@@letifrinette8360 what does Jesus say?
@@bobdinkytown that people neither marry nor are given in marriage in the resurrection
@@letifrinette8360 That sounds like an act they do not engage in, not a state of being. My wife is not given to me in marriage, nor do I marry her. She was given, and I did marry, but now, we're just married.
What riddle was Jesus's answer in response to?
@@bobdinkytown it was in response to a woman married 7 times to different brothers because of levirate marriage. Tbh I quite like the view of the Orthodox Church on this topic, I wonder why there’s this difference in what’s taught in the East vs the West
What is the great apostasy? How do I know if I’m at the point of apostasy?
Thank you Mike Winger
Such a sad situation that people follow this false religion. Pray for them. We were all lost at one time.
God almighty Indeed! Only man who can be God! Pastor Mike Winger does a great job explaining the scriptures and texts. I hope more people who are seeking get to gain that understanding!
Just wow! Crazy.
The more I learn about mormonism, the more I wonder how ppl get caught up in it. They must be keeping these things a secret from the members.
I can attest they in fact do not hide it. I've read the Bible many times. And I didn't "get caught up in it". I believe it because of the promptings of the Holy Spirit. The ultimate source of truth is God; I know I can go to Him to know if something is true. I don't need to trust solely upon the interpretations of men when I can talk to God in prayer.
Only mortals can get married and do certain other ordinances like baptism, which is why mortals do baptisms for the dead and temple sealings on behalf of the dead. Don't be amazed that eternal marriage exists.
Could you do a video on Messianic Jews. Specifically, the ones who hold eating pork is wrong and the sabbath must be observed?
So, judaizers
@@Charles.Wright what are judaizers?
@@Charles.Wright I looked up judaizers and no I don’t mean them. The people I am talking about say salvation comes by Christ alone, but they claim when God says, “keep my commandments if you love me” it includes the entire Torah.
Like don’t eat pork get circumcised and keep the sabbath on Saturday.
I haven’t heard their views on animal sacrifice or other clean and unclean rules.
Please, tell me more about MY religion 🙄
@user-fo8ob8pv8g So according to you, “casting the beam out of your own eye” only applies to Mormons. That’s not what “my Jesus” taught
Is it true that your tithing stops you from being burned up on 'the day that is to burn like an oven?' What I've lovingly heard called 'fire insurance'... Pres. Hinckley verified D and C 64. Your religion teaches you can buy safety with your 10% gross donation, does it not?
Hi Mike, I was wondering what your thoughts are about the recovery translation of the bible that you can order for free online from bibles for america?
I ordered one so I will do some comparing but I watched your video on different translations and that one wasn't covered so I was just curious
Just as Satan twisted scripture to tempt Christ. There is no room in what Jesus said to make it mean anything other than what He said. It was concise and to the point, there is no giving and taking in marriage in heaven, we are as the angels. Man has a way of not understanding that things will not be in heaven as they are in the flesh body, that this age of flesh we now live in is only a part of God’s FULL PLAN.
Cue people in the comments claiming that other people who believe in exactly the same god as them ,are somehow crazy or misinformed
In my Father's House are many Mansions: etc, so do you interpret this Blaspheme as something with an inside bigger then it's out? Or like castles in a mudhut?
that passage is misinterpreted it speaks of the new bodies those reserructed receive
Scientifically, they are Spiritual black holes.
So, Mike, what happens to the millions of married couples on earth when Jesus returns? They don't die and are not resurrected but are physically changed to have new, immortal bodies. What happens to those marriages? Will there be some kind of giant divorce proceeding?
Question doesn’t make sense. You’d have to believe the Bible to start asking questions about the trib. You’re mixing doctrines, heaven and earth, Christian’s and non, etc. Bible doesn’t say people don’t die when Jesus comes back…
We are married until we die.once we die we are loosed from the covenant of marriage
@@Prin_Cess_007 1 Corinthians 15:51 is clear that not all will die and not all will be resurrected. 1 Thessalonians 4:17 says that those who are alive will be raptured. so the question is in that context. what happens to married couples at that moment? Does their marriage continue or not?
Copying and pasting from another response I made: "The unity that God's people will have for one another in the new heaven and earth will be closer, more joyous, and more unified than what occurs here on earth with the distortion of sin. If you are married here on earth to someone and you both are in heaven, well, the relationship you have with them will be deeper and more complete than the marriage relationship you have with them now. Likewise for all of our relationships... we will have no need of marriage to foreshadow Christ's marriage to the Church because we will have the real thing, and our relationships will be perfectly unified with one another."
So no, it is my opinion/interpretation that it is not like there will be a giant divorce proceeding (indeed there will instead be the marriage feast of the lamb). Our marriages and our experiences on this fallen earth will not disappear, but rather that they will be superceded by the perfect unity we will have in all relationships in the new heaven and new earth. The exaggerated question/example the Sadducees put to Jesus is answered as Jesus did... there will be no need for marriages in heaven as that relationship, as important as it is here on earth to foreshadow and imitate Christ's relationship to His Church, is nothing compared to the relationship the widow will have with all in heaven.
@@skyorrichegg What do you mean when say that marriage is important as a foreshadowing Christ's relationship to the church? What about the Edenic mandate to be fruitful and multiply? Is that not at least as important?
Hi Mike, I’m wondering if books like proverbs and Ecclesiastes still apply to Christians today since they are in the Old Testament? I always hear that if something isn’t repeated in the New Testament then it isn’t binding on Christians. Thank you
The serpent said to Adam and eve ye shall be as Gods
If I fall from obedience in certain areas of sin and struggle to stay consistent, do I also fall from grace?
Everyone struggles with sin, and sins, everyone but Jesus. His salvation was sufficient for us, not our perfection.
@christophertaylor9100 but didn't Mark or Peter say I will show my faith by my works. If Jesus comes back and I'm in sin, won't he choose not to rapture me? I figured faithfulness is a sign of true repentance, bit if I'm going back like a dog to his own vomit, I'm a hypocrite right?
@@benmoline6245 Absolutely faithfulness, but not perfection. We all sin and fall short of the Glory of God. Read Paul's amazing confession in Romans 7. Faithfulness is getting up and trying again out of love and gratitude for what was done, not perfection of life. The gospel gives us the motivation to try to live a better life and to turn to the cross and beg forgiveness for when we fail.
@@benmoline6245Hello brother, I often struggle with these kinds of thoughts too. Here are some verses to remember.
2 Corinthians 7:10, For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. For observe this very thing, that you sorrowed in a godly manner: What diligence it produced in you, what clearing of yourselves, what indignation, what fear, what vehement desire, what zeal, what vindication! In all things you proved yourselves to be clear in this matter.
1 John 1:9, If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Matthew 18:21-22, Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus said unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Luke 17:3-4, Take heed to yourselves. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him; and if he repents, forgive him. And if he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day returns to you, saying, ‘I repent,’ you shall forgive him.
Flee from all sin. Rapture very soon. ⚡⚡
Trinity is spoken of in I John 5 …..remember you can ask Abba Father for wisdom but if you lack the Holy Spirit you will not have understanding.
@@lisachambers3683you’re so caught up on vocabulary you’re completely losing the meaning in the first place. Replace trinity with Godhead and move on.
@@lisachambers3683 I didn’t say verse one, read the whole chapter 🙄
@@Prin_Cess_007 she will never have true understanding because she willfully denies the Trinity 😞 her own interpretation and opinion is her enemy
Recently have seen Mormons talking about how Joseph Smiths rewriting of the Bible in The book of Moses closely resembles the later discovered book of Enoch. Trid to look into the similarities but haven't found any.
Did you not look at the work LDS have done? It's pretty easy to find.
It's cognitive dissonance.
The book of Enoch was never lost. It was rejected because it was written in the inter-testimental period, ie over 3,000years after the events it is supposed to be talking about!
@@jessc408 That is just as impressive, arguably more!
Mike: What causes this idea that one’s theology, dogma, belief or theological interpretation is the only one true? Is it born of the limited self-centered thought? Is it an extension of the glorification of traditional tribal god? Why do we want to limit God, truth, beauty or love to the level of a tribal mind?
I'm confused. Don't Mormons disregard all translations of the Bible as corrupt. Why would they feel the need to explain away particular scriptures when they could just as easily dismiss it as false.
Because you are using an overly simplistic model for understanding the Church
The dozen or so Mormons I have talked to (my Dad's family are Mormons) is they use the King James version exclusively, and they say it is authoritative "insofar as it has been correctly translated." Which means, basically, if there's something in it that contradicts the Mormon scriptures then their version overrules whatever is in the Bible because it is not accurately translated. This is their philosophy for getting around sticking points where LDS clearly contradicts Biblical Christianity.
@@lukehanson_ your right I don't know that much about it
@@sidwhiting665 thanks
They use the KJV, but if it doesn't agree with the Book of Mormon they distort or ignore it. I'm no scholar on the matter, but that is what I've observed from the Mormons I have known or met with.
What does the serpent look like?
Mike, this topic always brings me to this question, and I’m wondering if you can shed some clarity on it for me.
Matthew 22:29-30 (ESV): 29 But Jesus answered them, “You are wrong, because you know neither the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Jesus’ reply seems to indicate that the Sadducees didn’t know the scriptures in regards to marriage post resurrection. But I have been unable to locate any reference to this in the Old Testament. What scriptures was Jesus referring to in this discussion?
It's in 1st Enoch which was considered scripture and is still in the Ethiopian Bible, and found in the dead sea scrolls.
A lot of believers try to discount this book because it's quite clear there is no trinity.
Happy seeking! May YHWH bless you.
The only good thing to come out of Mormonism would be the artwork. Goodness, they have some really talented artists. Same with Roman Catholics.
We really need a return to Orthodoxy.
Why is there no marriage in the resurrected world when Adam and Eve were married in Eden? Did Jesus mean that there is only no marriage in heaven and not the new Eden? Could Adam and Eve have procreated before the fall? Can we procreate in the resurrected world?
Hi Mike,
I was wondering today if the Bible talks about Jesus healing people with addictions? I've heard of him healing people that had diseases and impairments(things out of their control), but I was wondering if He healed those that were dealing with temptation(things in their control).
Suspiciously, jesus never got around to curing people of superstition.
The Chosen has helped normalize and hide the teachings of Mormonism.
Can I ask how? I haven’t watched it but I am super wary of it so to the Mormon involvement. I know they had the “I am the law” line which is from the Book of Mormon. Are there more than that also? And one line is already too much
I have my concerns with The Chosen, but that has to do with more of an emphasis on appeasing too many orthodox denominations in its interpretations of scripture, for instance how they ambiguously handle Mary, Jesus's mother. In what ways do you see an emphasis of Mormon teachings in a show where the showrunner and its writers are all from orthodox Christian denominations?
@@YesterYear-Gaming because it makes people believe their theology is all good. It’s the candy to get into the van. Also everyone should know that the Mormon church is using it as an evangelistic tool.
@@skyorrichegg I have concerns with all of it. As someone who was in a Christian cult for 8 years, I can tell you the chosen is a great pr tool for the Mormon church and they are using it.
@@Eyesofmars2040 that something is a PR tool for false religions does not make it immediately wrong or bad. The LDS try and use the Bible and the name of Jesus to lend legitimacy to their cult but that does not mean those things are wrong, obviously. Likewise I can enjoy LDS authors such as Brandon Sanderson or Orson Scott Card (just as I can non-believers works) while realizing that they belong to a cult and I should be careful with everything they say. The Chosen seens to have a showrunner and writing team that entirely consists of people with no connection to the LDS church. I would like concrete examples of their bad/twisted theology before outright condemning the show. The show is not the Bible and should not be used as a replacement for the Bible, any more than any other biblically based entertainment in the past. With all that said I understand people having reservations about literally anything we do here on Earth and wanting to abstain to keep themselves from sinning. I abstain from alcohol because I know that I have an addictive personality and have struggled with similar things in the past, but I also know that there are plenty of my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who can consume in moderation, unlike me.
00:22...Many places of worship of many faiths (Christianity included), are beautiful buildings, for instance the Hagia Sophia
The Hagia Sophia is or was originally a Christian Cathedral of Orthodox Christianity. Why denote the Hagia Sophia after mentioning Christian places of worship? Just curious is all.
An accurate descriptive video.
Mike, you missed the biggest explanation of all. That we Latter-Day Saints believe there is no marriage OR baptism in heaven.
Both have to take place on earth or by proxy on earth.
Baptism is necessary to reach the Celestial Kingdom (John 3:5.) And eternal marriage is necessary to reach the 3rd degree of the Celestial Kingdom (D&C 131:2.)
- Jared (Latter-Day Saint that watches Mike Winger's UA-cam channel)
These aren't hard to watch because of Mike. They are hard to watch because of how many people listen and don't know enough about the scriptures to question what he is telling them.
Please explain how, if a terrible sinner (terrible in our eyes, because all sin is equal in God's eyes) such as a rapist, pedophile, or murderer, who dies without repenting, can be allowed in Heaven simply because you or I went through the motions of being baptized using his/her name? The Bible says that once we're dead, that's it. We will face the Judgement Seat as we are. We are all responsible for our own standing with God, no-one else is responsible for our choices. Jesus chose to pay our sin debt, yes, but even He is not responsible for that debt!
As a woman, I must say that being perpetually pregnant does not sound much like heaven to me.
How do Mormon woman feel about this idea?
I guess the Mormon Bible doesn't have Matt. 22:30 or Mark 12:25.
The gospel (good news) as preached by Jesus and the Apostles is: The resurrection of the righteous dead and the Kingdom of God on the earth. This will happen, when Jesus returns to the earth.
Brother Mike, since when did you buy into the idea that Man/Society created and ordained Marriage, before God? Is God a Hypocrite?
please explain good sir
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Brother Mike,
why call me "good"?
There is only One good---God The Father, and His Son who sits at His right-hand.
The Son perfectly fulfilled the mission of The Father planned before the foundation of the world. Through Justification and Theosis, We are now made Kings and Priests unto God, and His Father.
❤ I love the wives.😊