Thank you very much for the mention I truly appreciate it, the ban partially happened in 2010, and fully in 2012. I'm on the fence on this one, old kata guruma is insane, or Te guruma, I think the 2010-2012 was best in my opinion the ban was partial. Watch my recent talk with Neil Adams, he's one the men that changed the rules, alongside Yamashita, Inoue etc. You can hear it from the horse's mouth.
I am from BJJ and if judo allowed leg grabs, I would do it in order to complement my bjj. But I chose wrestling instead since leg grabs are banned in judo. I know many people in BJJ who did/do the same
I think it was 2008. They should have refused and been kicked out. Would have been better. Who cares about the Olympics? The leg-grab ban has ruined judo. They've even banned kata-guruma!
Kata guruma isn't banned, only the leg grab application of it, they're still doing kata guruma, just not the traditional spplicatiob we see in say kata.
@@jaymorris3468 They're doing a throw that they call kata-guruma, but I would dispute that this throw has the essential properties of kata guruma. On the other hand, the Japanese naming conventions, while once instructive, have drifted over the years, and there are now quite a few others where either the name or the throw have drifted from what we understood 30 years ago.
Chadi's channel looks very good, thanks for sharing. Great video. And of course everyone wants the leg attacks back, full grappling is always better than just a part of it.
not true, try wrestling and see how easy it is. every leg attack has a leg defense. Judo is great, but it is not true that it is superior because it limits itself.
@@Wrtvrxgvcf55 I mean only takedowns.Wrestling is harder because relies on alot of strength than judo,but I was only referring to takedowns not submission!! I leave that to the extreme Greco-Roman!!
Judo was good when leg-grabs were allowed. I liked having to defend against them, even though I didn't do them myself. It meant that judo was complete against every attack. People learning judo today are not learning a complete art. They are unable to defend against leg-grabs because they don't encounter them.
@@ramondiaz2851 That's why Judo has no weight classes and wrestling does, right? I wrestled and I can tell you that there's plenty of wrestling techniques that don't involve muscling your opponent and plenty that do, same as in Judo. I would say that Judo and Wrestling are almost the same thing. Because they're both grappling arts.
Lots of sports got nerfed when joined Olympics, like Taekwondo too. Lots of clubs now teach the sport by the olympic rules, not the martial art itself. Leg grabs are one of the best for self defense.
There was a year that leg grabs were fine as a secondary attack. Another words; you could do ko uchi and feed the leg into your hand for kuchiki taoshi. This was a great option. There was also a year that you could score unlimited waza Ari and the only way to score ippon was with an ippon throw, 25 second pin, or submission. That was also an excellent year as every match was decided with players swinging for the fences.
this. they could just make any match only immediately winnable by scoring ippon, otherwise it's unlimited wazari and whoever has the most at the end of the timer will win, if it's the same or 0, golden score as usual. And then they could allow leg grabs, either only as a counter or whatever, but it could only score wazari, meaning it's discouraged slightly because you can't get an ippon with it
I definitely think that if you want to encourage certain behaviours you can do it by tweaking the scoring. No need to ban techniques and even worse the techniques are now removed from the grading syllabus so they are not just out of the olympics but lost to Judo altogether! :(
Wrestlers in pajamas, lol Although it's, unfortunately, very common in many schools of many martial arts, I think it's a mistake limiting everyday training to only what the competitive rule set allows.
I want to learn leg takedowns so much it's such a big part of takedowns honestly.. And they're great for no-gi and self defense. If it needs to be kicked out of the olympics to gain back it's completeness, I wouldn't care..
I agree, judo is a complete martial art with atemi (strikes) and ne waza and ashi waza but they want it to be more of a child sport thats why they remove techniques that look dangerous
What I heard is that Mongolians had their traditional sport that uses leg grab a lot. They beat everyone in Judo tournaments without much knowledge on Judo
That's not true at all. Leg grabs aren't really common in bokh, like all jacket wrestling. Too much risk of getting snapped down and just losing because literally touching the ground is a loss.
At one point before the rule change came into play, you couldn't go for the leg as a primary attack but you could as a counter, so if someone reached over and took a high grip over your shoulder you could counter with Te Guruma etc. Personally I'd be happy with this as a compromise to today's rules. I do understand why the decision was made and I also understand why so many people weren't happy with it either but I think the sport benefits from being in the Olympics ultimately. Love the channel BTW!
Definitely a sort of compromise would be cool, and like yourself i inderstand both sides, im like whatever, tell me the rules so i can play. Doesn't bother me.
Definitely, and you can restrict it to by only allowing it to be initiated from a proper kumi kata, so proper grip first, and only as a counter and you're given a shido hell even han-soto-make if it's done at the wrong time, so you maybe discourage, but not outright ban them.
Great videos just found you recently. I believe in training complete Kodokan Judo, you can introduce and go over everything that entails, but it all has to be measured through the lense of each individual students ability to dial it back for competition and also were they are at in their martial arts journey. Obviously if they are going to compete in those rule sets you don't want to train an individual whose entire fight strategy rests on those throws but everyone needs to learn and understand them as they are recognized throws that cross fighting disciplines and zero exposure means you can't stop or counter them. Also, Olympic Judo isn't Kodokan Judo it's watered down for the ignorant public, television cameras and the some ignorant members of the IOC, regardless of whether or not Kano Sensei wanted Judo in the Olympic games.
I thought it was because of its origins in japanese jiu-jitsu, coming from the samurai fighting with weapons and going down to attack the legs would put the warrior in a bad position to be killed going for the legs. I think something similar can be seen in greco-roman wrestling concentrating on being top heavy vs freestyle as in origins it came from armed combat
I understand they said submission wrestling and BJJ weren't allowed because they had wrestling and judo already in the Olympics but I have to agree with you @OG
Not the best idea. If you watch kata it looks like they move like robots. It’s because the kata is designed to be done wearing full suit of samurai armor. So keeping with the true spirit of Judo’s roots if you were to do a double leg take down on a samurai, he would stab you with his sword right to your neck or back. Better option to trip or throw ending in dominant position on top to draw your sword and strike.
I think olympics try to display specific skills. That's why sports that want to be in Olympics have to modify their ruleset so there are not too much skills that overlap from one sport to an other... Saying that, I'm aware that between more traditional Olympic sports there is a lo of skill overlap (like running for instance). But Taekwondo had to stick to kicks, even thought they have punches and grappling like karate...Karate had to adapt to point system etc...
Brotha your at the hub for judo in la you got , La Tenri , Hollywood dojo, Sawtelle dojo , Valley judo club, San Fernando judo club, you got the works!
it's illogical. in judo gokyo, compiled by jigoro kano, there are several foot and leg grabbing strokes. looking like wrestling is no rational reason to ban techniques that for almost 1 century were applied by anyone who used this type of technique!
Judo should just quit Olympics... the value of being in the Olympics is overrated and we can see that on google trends as popularity of judo is falling steadily thanks to all the restrictions ... quit the olympics and take the BJJ path
The logic is sound in banning them but at the time I was furious. It was because the scoring for medals meant that, at the time scoring for leg take downs counted and as long as one Judoka was in the lead they could hang on to it without any of the spectacular throws that judo is known for, hence the take downs were the same as wrestling, and they're two separate sports that ended up looking similar, so since the ban Judos throws have perfected and the true spirit of kuzushi, tsukuri and kaki have come into play, showing beautiful throwing techniques in order to score, and let's be honest before that, a. Match often looked like BJJ, the scoring changed too, no more kokas, (3 points and all a leg grab often got for sitting an opponent on their ass) or Yukos(5points) now it's wazari (7points) or ippon (10 points or one whole point, scored by a throw flat on back, 2 wazaris, submission or 25 second hold down, I know confusing but means one whole point is same as 10points), I would have kept Yukos because I feel ippons are given which would not have counted in the old system, also I would have kept hold downs to 30 seconds. I'm still not sure about teguruma, I know it's banned but it's the counter I'm not sure about, thank god uranage is still allowed.
So basically leg takedowns are too effective so they gotta ban it. lol. If I had the option in my town I'd switch to wrestling in an instant then. I guess it's more effective
The IJF/IOC knew wrestling was on the Olympic chopping block and if it fell their sport would be besieged with Hairy Russians, Muslims and Mongolians... they immediately clutched their pearls and got rid of every wrestling technique they possibly could because they were far more interested in the marketable economies of Western Europe and Elite Asia since they had totally commercialized the games, Coke and McDonald's don't want champions from poor countries that don't consume their products 🔥💥🌟
@@OGFITNESS trust me, I did a lot of Recon on the issue and dug deep... The Fat Cats knew that the Olympics were about to drop the ax on wrestling! The Judo people were petrified because they knew what that meant
@@BURGAWMMA makes lot of sense, Neils Adams talked about in a podcast, basically said that Wrestling was too similar to Judo so the IJF had to change it up, he didn’t give as much details about it as you did. Appreciate the insight brother. Osu🥋
Yeah sure that’s why Japan and France always were dominant countries in judo… Oh and that’s also why even Dr. Ferguson who spammed leg grabs didn’t medal in the Olympics . At the high level leg grabs when you include grip fighting aren’t as effective . Watch fergusons loss. He was a D1 wrestler and probably better at wrestling than you are 😂 And of course the “wrestlers” were people with good wrestling and good judo. Such an over simplistic view of the guys who had success in judo. Wrestlers that can’t grip fight get mauled and don’t even make the Olympic team so stop with the propaganda
Its all wrong about Olimpics , there should be 3 divisions Grappling, Striking, and complete fighting (MMA) where for exemple judo , wrestling , Bjj and oter grapling styles compet thogether , Striking where Karate Boxing Kung Fu taekwond can compete, and Complete Combat where Sambo , Kudo , Sport JuJutsu and all complete styles compete thogheter now is bulshit in olimpicks 3 grappling styles , 3 Stricking styles and no complet style ,all on olimpics rulles not federational like it was in ancient Greece
I commented on Chadi´s channel on this same topic. In my view leg grab ban was a MAJOR disservice to Judo, no excuses are valid. Central Asians and Judoka from the Caucasus and Russia with Free Style Wrestling background were dominating international competition and the Japanese were not happy about it. What they have done now is that Judo resembles Greco-Roman Wrestling and Mongolians and others are dominating competitions. Did the Olympic Committee say that Judo resembled Free Style Wrestling and therefore people are bored so let´s get rid of Judo? If that´s the case, is Judo more entertaining now? Sacrificing many techniques for the sake of pride or politics has changed Judo negatively. Many Judo schools in the West, no longer teach leg grabs to young learners. By Judo becoming an Olympic sport, important parts of it have been sacrificed, including Newaza that is not taught properly or enough at many Judo schools in the West. Freestyle Judo is really attractive, well-rounded and much more similar to the real Judo. By the way, the Japanese are nowhere near as good at Wrestling as some other countries and most likely due to traditional mindset, few Japanese Wrestlers and Judoka, cross train, therefore the Japanese encountered Judoka with strong Wrestling background at the Olympics only, and not at home. With all due respect to the Japanese, I still believe that their PRIDE has affected Judo in a very negative way as I am sure they were the ones behind those rule changes and not the Olympic Committee. Again, this is my personal point of view, many may not agree.
@@maitrekano Very few judoka have ever gotten into professional Wrestling, to begin with (making your whole answer pretty irrelevant). On top of that, old style Judoka (before leg grab ban) might have had chance against Wrestlers (mainly Folkstyle and Freestyle Wrestlers) but the ones today, have no business grappling with Wrestlers, unless we talk about good Freestyle Judoka, the only ones doing complete Judo.
i can agree with that , but leg grabb are still part of the judo curriculum and som of the leg grabbs combine with fot sweeps are maybe about to comeback in judo tournements , the double or single can take som time before the ijf change the rules .
@@maitrekano All the bans and changes throughout the years should be reversed. I´ve talked to many Judoka and several Masters I´ve met and they all agree Judo should go back to the way it was, for the sake of its integrity.
@@wrestlingterrier8366 i know , its a disgrace , i know many young judokas very talented in ground work and throwing techniques , winning championships and dont know how to defend a double leg grabb . i hope som day ......
They got their asses kicked AFTER the total ban. Those nasty caucasus/central asian countries? They actually love upper body throws more than leg attacks, and no longer worrying about them actually made them overpowered.
Thank you very much for the mention I truly appreciate it, the ban partially happened in 2010, and fully in 2012.
I'm on the fence on this one, old kata guruma is insane, or Te guruma, I think the 2010-2012 was best in my opinion the ban was partial.
Watch my recent talk with Neil Adams, he's one the men that changed the rules, alongside Yamashita, Inoue etc. You can hear it from the horse's mouth.
I'm now Subbed!! Love Neil Adams my fav Judoka , I'm sport Jiujitsu
@@lukebarnett6434 thank you
Time to Randori against him now, both of you are brown belt. Perfect !
My sensei teaches everything. From o goshi's to te guruma's, single and double legs too
That’s the best
you're incredebly blessed to have such a teacher,
my just teach us for competition
I am from BJJ and if judo allowed leg grabs, I would do it in order to complement my bjj. But I chose wrestling instead since leg grabs are banned in judo. I know many people in BJJ who did/do the same
I think it was 2008. They should have refused and been kicked out. Would have been better. Who cares about the Olympics? The leg-grab ban has ruined judo. They've even banned kata-guruma!
Kata guruma isn't banned, only the leg grab application of it, they're still doing kata guruma, just not the traditional spplicatiob we see in say kata.
@@jaymorris3468 They're doing a throw that they call kata-guruma, but I would dispute that this throw has the essential properties of kata guruma.
On the other hand, the Japanese naming conventions, while once instructive, have drifted over the years, and there are now quite a few others where either the name or the throw have drifted from what we understood 30 years ago.
Chadi's channel looks very good, thanks for sharing. Great video.
And of course everyone wants the leg attacks back, full grappling is always better than just a part of it.
Chadi's channel is great, for the history of it all i dont know of any better channel at the moment.
It is to make it harder!! OG!! grappling the legs is easy!! But grappling a judoka by the collar is HARD AND CHALLENGING brother OG!!
not true, try wrestling and see how easy it is. every leg attack has a leg defense. Judo is great, but it is not true that it is superior because it limits itself.
@@Wrtvrxgvcf55 I mean only takedowns.Wrestling is harder because relies on alot of strength than judo,but I was only referring to takedowns not submission!! I leave that to the extreme Greco-Roman!!
Judo was good when leg-grabs were allowed. I liked having to defend against them, even though I didn't do them myself. It meant that judo was complete against every attack. People learning judo today are not learning a complete art. They are unable to defend against leg-grabs because they don't encounter them.
@@adamclark1972uk I agree 100 %!!
@@ramondiaz2851 That's why Judo has no weight classes and wrestling does, right? I wrestled and I can tell you that there's plenty of wrestling techniques that don't involve muscling your opponent and plenty that do, same as in Judo. I would say that Judo and Wrestling are almost the same thing. Because they're both grappling arts.
Lots of sports got nerfed when joined Olympics, like Taekwondo too. Lots of clubs now teach the sport by the olympic rules, not the martial art itself. Leg grabs are one of the best for self defense.
There was a year that leg grabs were fine as a secondary attack. Another words; you could do ko uchi and feed the leg into your hand for kuchiki taoshi. This was a great option.
There was also a year that you could score unlimited waza Ari and the only way to score ippon was with an ippon throw, 25 second pin, or submission. That was also an excellent year as every match was decided with players swinging for the fences.
this. they could just make any match only immediately winnable by scoring ippon, otherwise it's unlimited wazari and whoever has the most at the end of the timer will win, if it's the same or 0, golden score as usual. And then they could allow leg grabs, either only as a counter or whatever, but it could only score wazari, meaning it's discouraged slightly because you can't get an ippon with it
I definitely think that if you want to encourage certain behaviours you can do it by tweaking the scoring. No need to ban techniques and even worse the techniques are now removed from the grading syllabus so they are not just out of the olympics but lost to Judo altogether! :(
Wrestlers in pajamas, lol Although it's, unfortunately, very common in many schools of many martial arts, I think it's a mistake limiting everyday training to only what the competitive rule set allows.
Big bro ... All i want these locks don't go extinct.
I just go learn them from Bjj & Wrestling.
100 m dash looks very much like 200 m
I want to learn leg takedowns so much it's such a big part of takedowns honestly.. And they're great for no-gi and self defense. If it needs to be kicked out of the olympics to gain back it's completeness, I wouldn't care..
I agree,
judo is a complete martial art with atemi (strikes) and ne waza and ashi waza
but they want it to be more of a child sport thats why they remove techniques that look dangerous
What I heard is that Mongolians had their traditional sport that uses leg grab a lot. They beat everyone in Judo tournaments without much knowledge on Judo
That's not true at all. Leg grabs aren't really common in bokh, like all jacket wrestling. Too much risk of getting snapped down and just losing because literally touching the ground is a loss.
At one point before the rule change came into play, you couldn't go for the leg as a primary attack but you could as a counter, so if someone reached over and took a high grip over your shoulder you could counter with Te Guruma etc. Personally I'd be happy with this as a compromise to today's rules.
I do understand why the decision was made and I also understand why so many people weren't happy with it either but I think the sport benefits from being in the Olympics ultimately.
Love the channel BTW!
Definitely a sort of compromise would be cool, and like yourself i inderstand both sides, im like whatever, tell me the rules so i can play. Doesn't bother me.
Definitely, and you can restrict it to by only allowing it to be initiated from a proper kumi kata, so proper grip first, and only as a counter and you're given a shido hell even han-soto-make if it's done at the wrong time, so you maybe discourage, but not outright ban them.
Great videos just found you recently.
I believe in training complete Kodokan Judo, you can introduce and go over everything that entails, but it all has to be measured through the lense of each individual students ability to dial it back for competition and also were they are at in their martial arts journey. Obviously if they are going to compete in those rule sets you don't want to train an individual whose entire fight strategy rests on those throws but everyone needs to learn and understand them as they are recognized throws that cross fighting disciplines and zero exposure means you can't stop or counter them. Also, Olympic Judo isn't Kodokan Judo it's watered down for the ignorant public, television cameras and the some ignorant members of the IOC, regardless of whether or not Kano Sensei wanted Judo in the Olympic games.
I thought it was because of its origins in japanese jiu-jitsu, coming from the samurai fighting with weapons and going down to attack the legs would put the warrior in a bad position to be killed going for the legs. I think something similar can be seen in greco-roman wrestling concentrating on being top heavy vs freestyle as in origins it came from armed combat
Greco Roman was invented by the French, its got nothing to do with the past. Its a game.
I understand they said submission wrestling and BJJ weren't allowed because they had wrestling and judo already in the Olympics but I have to agree with you @OG
I listened to this video at 2x
If there still leg grabs there no longer be sambo, after all it s same techniques, so for sambo can shine they took off leg grabs from judo
Not the best idea. If you watch kata it looks like they move like robots. It’s because the kata is designed to be done wearing full suit of samurai armor. So keeping with the true spirit of Judo’s roots if you were to do a double leg take down on a samurai, he would stab you with his sword right to your neck or back. Better option to trip or throw ending in dominant position on top to draw your sword and strike.
I think olympics try to display specific skills. That's why sports that want to be in Olympics have to modify their ruleset so there are not too much skills that overlap from one sport to an other...
Saying that, I'm aware that between more traditional Olympic sports there is a lo of skill overlap (like running for instance).
But Taekwondo had to stick to kicks, even thought they have punches and grappling like karate...Karate had to adapt to point system etc...
I understand why they did too !! I agree with the judo federation!!
i love this vid and i love chadi, cheers mate
I heard it was too effective
I enjoy your videos very much. Wish I could find a good judo dojo here in the LA Southern California area.
Appreciate that Stephen. No good clubs in your area? Maybe just train at a ok one for now.
Brotha your at the hub for judo in la you got , La Tenri , Hollywood dojo, Sawtelle dojo , Valley judo club, San Fernando judo club, you got the works!
Interesting video!
it's illogical. in judo gokyo, compiled by jigoro kano, there are several foot and leg grabbing strokes. looking like wrestling is no rational reason to ban techniques that for almost 1 century were applied by anyone who used this type of technique!
Judo should just quit Olympics... the value of being in the Olympics is overrated and we can see that on google trends as popularity of judo is falling steadily thanks to all the restrictions ... quit the olympics and take the BJJ path
The logic is sound in banning them but at the time I was furious. It was because the scoring for medals meant that,
at the time scoring for leg take downs counted and as long as one Judoka was in the lead they could hang on to it without any of the spectacular throws that judo is known for, hence the take downs were the same as wrestling, and they're two separate sports that ended up looking similar, so since the ban Judos throws have perfected and the true spirit of kuzushi, tsukuri and kaki have come into play, showing beautiful throwing techniques in order to score, and let's be honest before that, a. Match often looked like BJJ, the scoring changed too, no more kokas, (3 points and all a leg grab often got for sitting an opponent on their ass) or Yukos(5points) now it's wazari (7points) or ippon (10 points or one whole point, scored by a throw flat on back, 2 wazaris, submission or 25 second hold down, I know confusing but means one whole point is same as 10points), I would have kept Yukos because I feel ippons are given which would not have counted in the old system, also I would have kept hold downs to 30 seconds. I'm still not sure about teguruma, I know it's banned but it's the counter I'm not sure about, thank god uranage is still allowed.
So basically leg takedowns are too effective so they gotta ban it. lol. If I had the option in my town I'd switch to wrestling in an instant then. I guess it's more effective
Isn't it because those eastern and Russian wrestlers were doing too well?
"i actually go thru every vid at 2x" 😂😂
The IJF/IOC knew wrestling was on the Olympic chopping block and if it fell their sport would be besieged with Hairy Russians, Muslims and Mongolians... they immediately clutched their pearls and got rid of every wrestling technique they possibly could because they were far more interested in the marketable economies of Western Europe and Elite Asia since they had totally commercialized the games, Coke and McDonald's don't want champions from poor countries that don't consume their products
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@@BURGAWMMA interesting
@@OGFITNESS trust me, I did a lot of Recon on the issue and dug deep... The Fat Cats knew that the Olympics were about to drop the ax on wrestling! The Judo people were petrified because they knew what that meant
@@BURGAWMMA makes lot of sense, Neils Adams talked about in a podcast, basically said that Wrestling was too similar to Judo so the IJF had to change it up, he didn’t give as much details about it as you did. Appreciate the insight brother. Osu🥋
@@OGFITNESS Neil is a very smart politician so we can only hint at the true reason... awesome Channel man, 🔥subscribed🔥
@@BURGAWMMA Exaclty! Thanks for the sub brother, Osu🥋
Because they favor the taller guys and too much sponsors for the taller guys to win.
Because wrestlers started to join Judo tournaments and dominated with double leg takedowns. BA BOOOOOOMMM
Yeah sure that’s why Japan and France always were dominant countries in judo…
Oh and that’s also why even Dr. Ferguson who spammed leg grabs didn’t medal in the Olympics . At the high level leg grabs when you include grip fighting aren’t as effective . Watch fergusons loss. He was a D1 wrestler and probably better at wrestling than you are 😂
And of course the “wrestlers” were people with good wrestling and good judo. Such an over simplistic view of the guys who had success in judo. Wrestlers that can’t grip fight get mauled and don’t even make the Olympic team so stop with the propaganda
Got any proof of that?
That suck!!! When I do judo all of this was legal …with all these stupid rule they make the art more weak🤬
agree, still fun as heck though, hehehe
Its all wrong about Olimpics , there should be 3 divisions Grappling, Striking, and complete fighting (MMA) where for exemple judo , wrestling , Bjj and oter grapling styles compet thogether , Striking where Karate Boxing Kung Fu taekwond can compete, and Complete Combat where Sambo , Kudo , Sport JuJutsu and all complete styles compete thogheter now is bulshit in olimpicks 3 grappling styles , 3 Stricking styles and no complet style ,all on olimpics rulles not federational like it was in ancient Greece
African wrestlers seem to be the most intense
judo was already an ungraceful sport to watch
these new rules make them unwatchable
It looked to much like wrestling, yeah, like a potato to an egg.
I commented on Chadi´s channel on this same topic. In my view leg grab ban was a MAJOR disservice to Judo, no excuses are valid. Central Asians and Judoka from the Caucasus and Russia with Free Style Wrestling background were dominating international competition and the Japanese were not happy about it. What they have done now is that Judo resembles Greco-Roman Wrestling and Mongolians and others are dominating competitions. Did the Olympic Committee say that Judo resembled Free Style Wrestling and therefore people are bored so let´s get rid of Judo? If that´s the case, is Judo more entertaining now? Sacrificing many techniques for the sake of pride or politics has changed Judo negatively. Many Judo schools in the West, no longer teach leg grabs to young learners. By Judo becoming an Olympic sport, important parts of it have been sacrificed, including Newaza that is not taught properly or enough at many Judo schools in the West. Freestyle Judo is really attractive, well-rounded and much more similar to the real Judo. By the way, the Japanese are nowhere near as good at Wrestling as some other countries and most likely due to traditional mindset, few Japanese Wrestlers and Judoka, cross train, therefore the Japanese encountered Judoka with strong Wrestling background at the Olympics only, and not at home. With all due respect to the Japanese, I still believe that their PRIDE has affected Judo in a very negative way as I am sure they were the ones behind those rule changes and not the Olympic Committee. Again, this is my personal point of view, many may not agree.
and yet judokas have subbmited wrestlers , so your point is worthless .
@@maitrekano Very few judoka have ever gotten into professional Wrestling, to begin with (making your whole answer pretty irrelevant). On top of that, old style Judoka (before leg grab ban) might have had chance against Wrestlers (mainly Folkstyle and Freestyle Wrestlers) but the ones today, have no business grappling with Wrestlers, unless we talk about good Freestyle Judoka, the only ones doing complete Judo.
i can agree with that , but leg grabb are still part of the judo curriculum and som of the leg grabbs combine with fot sweeps are maybe about to comeback in judo tournements , the double or single can take som time before the ijf change the rules .
@@maitrekano All the bans and changes throughout the years should be reversed. I´ve talked to many Judoka and several Masters I´ve met and they all agree Judo should go back to the way it was, for the sake of its integrity.
@@wrestlingterrier8366 i know , its a disgrace , i know many young judokas very talented in ground work and throwing techniques , winning championships and dont know how to defend a double leg grabb . i hope som day ......
You're repeating yourself so much...
Repetition makes the master 😂
this video cannot be listened to at 2X 😂
Japanese fighters were getting their asses kicked, that's why.
They got their asses kicked AFTER the total ban. Those nasty caucasus/central asian countries? They actually love upper body throws more than leg attacks, and no longer worrying about them actually made them overpowered.