1999 to 2004 3.3/3.8L Caravan Starter Replacement Part 1
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2016
- Description: NO RADIATOR REMOVAL this method. This is a video on how I changed my Starter on my 3.3L V6 2002 Grand Caravan. This is for entertainment purposes. Should you use this video to change your starter it is at your own risk, and I am not responsible for any problems that arise using this video as a reference.
Part 2 is here: • 1999 to 2004 3.3/3.8L ...
Procedure Applies to the following:
1999 to 2004 3.3 & 3.8L Equipped:
- Dodge Caravans and Grand Caravans.
- Chrysler Town & Country's.
- Plymouth Voyagers and Grand Voyagers.
Part I used: Starter eBay Nugen Motorparts Part No. 17784N
item no. 121469277064 $59.00 Free Shipping.
Tools I used:
- 3/8" Drive Ratchet.
- 3/8" Stuby Drive Ratchet.
- 3/8" to 1/2" Drive Adapter.
- 1/2" to 3/8" Drive Adapter.
the last two Adapters can be replaced by a 3/8" extension 1" long.
- 3/8" Drive 3" extension.
- 3/8" Drive 13mm Socket.
- 3/8" Drive 13mm Deep Socket.
- 13mm Combination Wrench.
- 15mm Combination Wrench.
- 3/8" Drive 15mm Socket.
- 3/8" Drive 15mm Deep Socket.
- 1/4" Blade Screw Driver.
- Small LED Hobby Light, or a drop light.
- Car Hydraulic Jack.
- Two Car Jack Stands.
- Wheel Chock or 4"X4"x12" Block of Wood.
- Small Carpet 6' by 4', helps on the back bones etc while lying on concrete.
Optional Tools used but not shown:
- 6" Needle Nose Pliers to pull plastic clip off Solenoid Wire.
- Step Stool to access engine bay while on Jack Stands.
- Small Wire Brush to clean Starter Cable Connections.
- Two Small Shop Rags.
Thanks for watching: I hope you enjoyed the video and it helped answer any questions you have on how a starter is changed on a 2002 Grand Caravan.
If you found the video useful please give me a thumbs up and please subscribe to help my channel.
Best Wishes n Blessings Keith - Авто та транспорт
Very professionally done video! With a few not to do's, what to look out for and cautions. Wish more folks doing these videos would do theirs like yours. It would eliminate a lot of confusion.
Thanks Steve, I agree, that's why I make them the way I do. I figure anyone coming to my channel should get what they need from any videos I put up. Otherwise why waste the time to produce it if it's not going to answer the most obvious questions needed to do the job. I appreciate your comment it makes the time and effort into doing these videos worth it. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Out of all the videos, I found this video to be the best. I did this yesterday on my 2005 Chrysler T&C with the 3.3 engine. The key is the 4 inch extension to get that top bolt. I used 15 inch deep socket, 3 inch 3/8 wobble extension, then a 1/2 inch to 3/8M adapter. That allowed me to use a bigger socket wrench to break that sucker loose without taking out radiator fans, support bar and other stuff like some others did. I also sprayed pb blaster a few times. Once loose, came out like butter. Use a short 15 mm on the bottom and your done. Also 13 mm for the two nuts were easy to get off. What took me the longest was running to the auto store twice to get my deep socket and then later the adapter set. I had these tools already, but I'm disorganized. Lol, so I spent time looking for them around the house and then I just waited in line forever and bought the tools. Also, be gentle with the electric cords and connections. My red one, the plastic felt brittle and I was afraid of breaking it. Definitely don't want to pay and fool around replacing that. Good luck with your project!
Wow love the adapter setup you did, whatever gets the job done is what's needed sometimes. Not long after filming this video the battery cable to the starter has so much corrosion in it that it gave out and we had to replace it. Hope all goes well for you. PS I have a Caravan Playlist. Check it out to see some more videos you may need later. Thanks for the nice comment. Best wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya Thanks, Keith. This job proves that you just need the right tools. Otherwise, take those fans off. I was/am somewhat worried with my red cable. There's a spot where the old owner had installed the battery, but the red cable was touching the battery and kind of burned a spot in it. I think I'm fine, but that will be my next step. Good to keep the battery cables away from the battery and it gets hot. So far, my starter has started the van 7 out of 7 times!!!
Thanks for the detailed video. The only difference I had on my 99 was that the ground cable was on the other side of the engine block so I only had to disconnect it from the battery. I was unable to get any sockets on the two mounting bolts. Didn't have any ratcheting wrenches so I had to back them out 1/4 turn at a time. Rest assured when I went to get the new starter I stopped by Walmart and bought a small $20 set of metric ratcheting wrenches and the starter installation took less than 10 minutes.
Oh my goodness, finally someone that is short, concise and every word is important.
I ramble like hell so I can't judge but boy dobI appreciate this video.
You saved me hours my friend and left out nothing down to the deepwell 13mm.
Thank you, I subscribed just to see what other gems you have!
Hey Pheno's that was nice of you, you're welcome. I may be concise but I jump around to a lot of subjects here. It just depends on what's important at the time or what catches my interest. Thanks for subscribing I hope you find the channel useful. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
This is a great video.
Everything was going just as planned until time to get the new one into place. I'm not kidding, it is Impossible with that plate that needs to be just right from underneath alone. After 2 hours I gave up and started making room from above. I removed a piece of plastic which spanned the width of the front (2 bolts and 2 plastic plugs) and then the metal cross brace (4 bolts). I then removed the 2 radiator fans (1 screw and an electrical connection the same as the starter). The fans pull right out. This opened a nice space too see where the starter needed to go and get that plate just right. Doing this also makes getting the top double bolt out and back in so much easier. All this extra dismantling and putting back together only took about 10 minutes. Save yourself some frustration and do it right away.
I'm no mechanic and this is the first time I've ever done something like this. Without this video (and another one that does advise what I explained above) I would have had an expensive towing charge and repair bill. I thank you and the countless others out there who provide this type of content.
You Welcome Jeff that's why I made the video. Yeah the plate is a real tough one, as you probably saw in my second video on the subject. I've been doing mechanic work for 30 plus years. Sometime you've got to be a contortionist. I hope you watched both videos. If you used the tools I suggested it probably would have worked out for you without doing the way you did, but hey as a mechanic I know there's more than one way to skin a cat. Good job on getting job without a lot of experience. Thanks for watching.
Best Wishes and Blessings. Keith
One of the best DIY's I have seen.
Thanks Andrew. I appreciate your taking the time to say you liked it. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you Mr. Noneya. It went just like you said. Even the metal gasket. lol total cost $100.00 bucks and my sunday.
saving me $200!!!
just wanted to comment onthe video.Other videos say you need to pull the fan out ,not true .You were very through and on point .Thank youfor making this video !!!!
Hey Jacob thanks for the thanks. I hope it helped. Make sure to watch both as there is some important items regarding the dust plate and the connector in the second video. I know they are long but I just wanted to make sure and cover all the bases that someone might need to know.
Also please leave a thumbs up for both as it helps my video status.
Again thanks for watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
PS going out for a Blizzard at DQ, but feel free to ask questions as needed, and I'll answer them when I get back. Keith
Excellent video.
On my 2000 town country you have to remove the air cleaner box if you want to attack the top bolt from above. I had success with the top bolt using a box end 15mm from below. Toughest part for me was getting the new starter in without the metal plate falling off. Thanks again.
Glad it worked for you. Several of the comments said they cleaned the starter and put tape on the plate and said that made it easier. Thanks for watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
I thank you for explaining this video using productively your time .
I've got my starter changed
Thanks Mr. Morales, that's why I make them. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
thanks for the tool listing saves a lot of running back and forth looking for the right combination of tools
Hi Buck, you're welcome that's why I do my videos this way. I want to help my viewers get the job done right and quickly. I started doing them this way because most folks who watch my videos could use the quick help. I got tired of watching other vehicle repair videos that really didn't show or explain things needed to get the job done. Glad you liked it. Always feel free to ask questions. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Hey Keith, I'm more amazed on how clean as a whistle everything is, heck you barely got any dirt/grease on your hands. Great vid btw!!
Good job on this video. Not only did you list the tools we needed to have available, but you also illustrated potential pitfalls of the removal/reinstall so we were prepared.
We didn't have the two adapters to create a 1" extension or a stubby socket wrench, but with EXTREME patience, you can get the top starter bolt out with just a 3" extension and a deep well 15mm socket using a 1/2" drive wrench. I had to start with my 1/2" breaker bar and a pipe though! That sucker was fused!
One thing we had to deal with was on the bottom starter bolt removal, if you get a good head of steam on the removal using a standard depth socket, you can get the head of the wrench too far up against the part that is directly opposite the bolt and not be able to get the wrench out. I had to use a screwdriver to flip the direction on my socket wrench and tighten it back in a bit to get the wrench loose.
Very Good tips Steve. That's one thing I learned doing mechanic work is that there is more than one way to do the job and you can use just about an endless assortments to get the job done.
Backing the tool out into something is a pretty common problem. That's why if you ever purchase some of those reversible combination ratchet wrenches you ALWAYS buy the ones with the lever on them. They are not as strong but you won't have to cut them or the bolt off if you back them up to where you can't get them off. Also because they aren't as strong only use them to do the majority of the work and leave the breaking bolts free and final tightening to a regular wrench or socket. Thanks for the nice comment. I try to do all my videos this way for folks like you. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
ATTN: These two bolts *can be taken out with both a 13 and 15 mm ratcheting combination wrench- once you study it enough, and have patience! What Keith fails to mention- and all starter replacements YT on this engine- is that it’s *very difficult to get hands on both sides (bolts and starter), which is necessary to align the bolts in their holes on installation. The thin dust shield is it *impossible to align unless you put it on and then tape it to the New starter, but make sure that its in place before you tighten anything- and tighten only after both bolts are in!
THANKS, Chrysler, for jamming everything into that tiny under hood space.... I learned a lesson here, and astonished at the important parts that (almost*every) YT fixit videos omit.
I just finished my install and wanted to help if you’re about to commence. Applies to T&C and V models with 3.8L
- I mention the plate in the video @ 8:20 and how important it is. When I installed it I didn't use any tape on it, but that is a good idea, as others have mentioned before in some of the other comments, great minds think alike.
- I suppose you could use a 15 mm wrench on a 13 mm bolt, but if you have the correct wrench to begin with I don't know why anyone would risk rounding off the bolt head by using the wrong size on it.
- I didn't mention the how to get your hands on both the starter and the bolts for installation in this video is because I discuss that in the installation video, Part 2. As with all vehicle maintenance there are going to be some things that are harder than others. Lisa Douglass below using this video did her's in an hour. I also had a 70 grandmother do it using this video. It's a matter of not giving up and doing it the way you find best for you. I grew up in a mechanics shop and the one thing I noticed about mechanics, they rarely agree oh how to do a job the same way. I hope the video helped, you didn't mention if it did, or didn't. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Keith, your video *did acquaint me with the situation, and for that I’m grateful. Must admit I didn’t read all the comments nor Pt2. I only used 15mm on 15mm, and- if you’ll check it out- you’ll see that using a (short 8”) racheting combo wrench is indeed possible because they’re each a capped bolt flush with the mount.
I know there’s many ways to skin a cat, and finding the easiest can be hard. Mechanics have my respect for their patience!
Thx, great video, (added a 1/2” x 5” strip of duct tape on 2 edges to hold the dust plate in place. Once in place and bolts in place, pulled the duct tape tabs and all went well.
Thank you for very nice video
-Glynn
Thanks Glynn, I appreciate the nice comment. Good idea on the duct tape, wish I had thought of that. Thanks for watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Safety note: Before working on anything safely you should disconnect the battery. However, you should ALWAYS disconnect the "Negative" or "Ground" terminal NOT the positive terminal.
The reason is that the negative side is connected to the ENTIRE vehicle, and the positive is not. So by disconnecting from the negative the battery is COMPLETELY isolated.
BTW - this is standard safety practice which is recommended and taught by every car maker.
I agree with you for dual batteries but for single batteries either is safely usable since both must be connected for current flow, but I agree NOT recommended. On a single battery vehicle If you remove the Positive or the Negative and touch the body nothing will happen. However for a good safety measure I agree with you it's a good practice to do the negative first, but not for the reason you mentioned. It's good practice because if you're not paying attention on a dual battery vehicle, like my F350 Diesel, you could get a few sparks. It's also a good practice to let the engine compartment air out for a minute or two just in case battery gasses are present, which could cause the battery to explode when the terminal sparks during removal. Thanks for the tip and observation, and keeping a close eye on safety for us, it's ALWAYS welcome.
I hope the rest of the video was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Keith Noneya - Sorry but safe practice says that you should ALWAYS wrench the "grounded" side first, and last (when finished), for the simple reason that you want to disconnect the chassis (entire car) on first touch, and reconnect it on last touch.
Many people have welded a wrench while disconnecting the battery because they tooled with the hot side while the chassis is grounded. it would take some talent to short a battery while messing with the grounded terminal of the battery!
Yep, I agree that's why the grounded side is usually on the outside of the vehicle near the fender, while the positive is usually towards the engine with most items farther away that a wrench lenght. But not always, as iv'e seen vehicles with the positive right next to the fender. Why a manufacture would make a vehicle with the positive near the fender is beyond me. It can be a serious safety hazard. I make it a point to never put any tool on the battery. Although on a very RARE occasion I have found my self doing it, and I correct it as soon as I see it. I did it once about 30 years ago, that wrench got brown red real fast, I was blessed that the battery didn't blow up in my face. I hit it with a ratchet and easily knocked it off. Although it's not correct, I usually do the positive side because I clean the terminal after it's removed. Then I put it back on when the job is done. Yep it's not the safest method but I guess stubborn that way. I've been working on cars for over 30 years and It's wrong but old habits "die' ' hard I guess. Never had an issue with it, as i'm aware of the danger and very careful with it. In my future videos i'm going to point that out, because of your responses. Maybe some day it'll catch up with me and i'll weld a wrench to the fender. Then i'll do a "This is not how to disconnect a battery" video and show the carnage. It could happen tonight!, But by my track record i'll be dead before it happens. Thanks again for the safety observation RB. Seriously!
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
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Hey Kray, I just saw this. That's funny!
I have a 2003 Dodge grand caravan 3.3 ,I did it the same way you did, it worked great, great video,Thanks alot
You're welcome Frank. Glad it helped. Thanks for watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you so much for the video, especially showing the tools i needed, i've never worked on a car before and for the most part it was smooth sailing!! I read all of the comments and that also helped me, especially taping that dam plate on. I should have glued it because the grease made the gorilla tape not stick that well. Can you believe that, gorilla tape note working!!!! Guess i should have cleaned it really good before hand. Anyway, you've made a lot of peoples lives easier and saved us all some money........Thank You!!!!!!!
You Welcome. Glad the video helped that's why I make them the way I do. Thanks for watching. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you so much I had such a hard time finding the top bolt until I watched your video thank you so much
Hey V.Genie, you're welcome. Putting it back in can be a little tricky with that dust plate. The second video shows you how to get it in. If you bend it while putting it in you may get a high pitched squeal. I talk about how to avoid it in the second video. Thanks for watching and I hope the rest of the video helps you out. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you verry much!!! Helped me out alot and I appreciate you taking the time to make this video.
Hay Matt thanks for the thanks, I appreciate it. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
thanks to your video I replaced a starter for a friend with confidence! thank you!!
Thanks Johnny I appreciate the appreciation. I definitely try to make them for folks just like you so you can feel confident to do the job right and what to look out for. Glad it worked out for you.
Thanks for the comment and watching.
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Very cool video. Motivates me to buy a car one day, mainly for the maintenance fun ;)
Thanks Tam. Working on vehicles can be rewarding, but it can also be very difficult and extremely dangerous if you don't get someone who is familiar with it.I work on my just plain old daily driver because I can't afford a better car. So for me right now it's out of necessity. However working on sports cars and hot rods can be for fun. I used to have a 1969 Fiat 124 Spider, a 1971 Chevelle HS, a 1974 Trans Am 400ci 4spd. When I retire I have a 1969 GTO with a 400ci engine in it that I plan to restore. Heres a few video links of a 1969 GTO. Keep in mind that mine is a hardtop, Black Paint, Black Vinyl Top with Black Interior. Also I have the Hideaway Headlights, but no rear spoiler. Other than that it's just like this one. Links:
ua-cam.com/video/pS-Ds-REdw0/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/oHaLaXk6f5s/v-deo.html
Thanks for the comment Tam.
Best Wishes n Blessings.
Thanks for the help. Used your info to do this on 1990 Chrysler new Yorker. Worked out well. Yeah, i,'ll subscribe!
Hey Gem, you're most welcome. I'm glad the video was helpful that's why I make them. Thanks for the Sub to, it helps pay for the parts to do these videos and I get to make a little on the side to buy tools and things around the house. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
WOW... EXCELLENT teaching video. Subscribed, will be watching others and telling friends about your channel.
Thanks CZ..., I appreciate the nice comment. Don't forget that I put additional information in the "SHOW MORE" Description block below my videos. In there you'll find part numbers, vehicle years this video applies too, an actual list of the tools I used, that you can cut and paste to MS Wordpad to print. Consumables like paper towels even a list of chemicals if they apply, and updates to the video or description. One last thing, check out the comments below, usually there is some pretty good advice from other viewers. Thanks for watching, feel free to ask questions or give your two cents worth on what could make my future videos better. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
The one I just did wasn't nearly as clean lol, Thank you, this video made it easy to locate the bolts in all that gunk.
Ah you're welcome Michael. Just give me a thumbs up if you haven't already. It helps. Thanks for watching.
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
cleanest underbelly ever. lol
That's funny, it's clean because it has an oil leak and I had cleaned it and also had just changed the transmission.Thanks for the funny comment. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
´Qué bonito trabajar así con un coche que cuidas mucho. Qué dificil el acceso y más grabando! Una felicitación para Keith muchas gracias por la ayuda!
Hola Junior, gracias por el bonito comentario. Trabajar en un vehículo por primera vez puede ser un poco desafiante. Sin embargo, con paciencia aprende la mejor manera de encontrar y solucionar un problema. Con el tiempo se vuelve más y más fácil. Me alegra que mi video te haya ayudado. Gracias por ver. Mis mejores deseos y bendiciones. Keith Noneya
Hey Junior, thanks for the nice comment. Working on a vehicle for the first time can be a little challanging. However with patience you learn how best to find and fix a problem. Over time it becomes easier and easier. I'm glad that my video helped you. Thank you for watching. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
La marcha de mi Caravan quedó perfecta y a la primera gracias a tu valiosa ayuda. Me gusta mucho Chrysler y poco a poco he ido juntando la herramienta y aprendiendo. He bajado hace tiempo motor 3.0 y caja de 3 velocidades y siempre es un reto hacerlo bien. Cuando viaja uno, se disfruta porque sabes que todo está bien porque lo hiciste tú mismo y más porque te ayudó un buen amigo, como tú!The starter of my Caravan was perfect and at first thanks to your valuable help. I like Chrysler a lot and little by little I have been putting the tool together and learning. I have long since lowered 3.0 engine and 3-speed gearbox and it is always a challenge to do it right. When you travel one, you enjoy because you know that everything is fine because you did it yourself and more because a good friend, like you, helped you!
excellent!!! thank you
Thanks a lot, you're video was very helpful.
Thanks Ronald, I appreciate the comment. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Nonya
Keith Noneya I did get whacked in the face. The starter fell on me. Lol, it's all good though. I wear glasses, so it wasn't too bad. Just some scuffs and my eye a little puffy, nothing noticeable. But I did it in the first try.
Keith Noneya I was trying to get it down and not bend the plate, and it last grip.
Cool, make sure you wash your eye good with some mild bar soap and a warm rag to get any grease out. Good job on getting it in the first try. Wearing glasses is a good idea, I rarely do it but I should. About getting hurt, my wife says; "If you're not getting hurt working on the car dear you're not working on it"! She cracks me up.
Lol, yeah. I took it as a badge oh honor.
I used a flat wrench for the top bolts .it was slow but it worked
The best wrench is the one that gets the job done! LOL Thanks for watching. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Thank you.
You're welcome Richard. Glad to help. Part 2 shows you how to get that plate in position so you don't bend it. Thanks for watching. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Very well done video! And is your van ever clean - like new.
Thanks Brian, hope it helped. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
I have a question I have a 1999 Grand plymouth Voyager the auto parts store said do I have a oval starter or a square starter do u know
Hi Isiah, it depends on the engine, 3.0, 2.something. Usually If I don't know I just go look at the one on the car and then look at eBay pictures for that year. Also you can look at some videos on how to do the job, I highly recommend that, then go look at the one on your car again. It's the best way to figure it out without having a mechanic to do it. Of course if you have a friends or know someone with mechanic experience they can always take a look for you. If you're not familiar with mechanic work it's a good idea to take it to one for piece of mind. A starter change will run you about $250.00 bucks if you shop around, and that can save you a lot of headaches when the car won't start. However, before you change the starter make sure and check your battery voltage and clamps. They tend to get corrosion all over them and that can cause your starter to appear weak when it's really that the starter isn't getting enough juice. A bad alternator can also not be charging your battery that can also make the starter appear weak. Most auto parts stores, like Pep-Boys, Autozone etc. will check your battery, alternator and starters for free. Of course to check them, except the battery, you have to remove them and take it to them. Some shops also have amp clamps and can check your alternator and battery without removing them. So if you can get your car to a shop to check them it should help you narrow down the list of possible problems. Hope that help guide you in the right direction. Feel free to ask any questions I monitor my page regularly. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Hey the bold on the starter that's the 15 on my van theres 2 1 bolt on the thin metal then 1 under it is it that bolt Not the Top under the exhaust
Not sure if this is a statement or a question. Could you post a video of it and send me the link please?
thank you
You're welcome Poppins. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
the dust cover believe it or not stayed on the vehicle .I noticed the brake tag from LA I am from N.O. myself
Cool, Slidell
Keith Good Evening! I have a 2003 Dodge Caravan SE, im trying to jack it up and place jack stands properly but i dont understand my manual to where i can follow the diagram picture and procedures and apply the action under the van properly, if there is any way you can help me please lmk i will greatly appreciate it very much. Have a beautiful blessed day!
Hi Angelo, go to time index 5:00 and start to watch from there. I tell you where it should be safe to place them and why. Also I can't say it enough, after you've jacked the vehicle up, "Never under any circumstances crawl under a vehicle without Jack Stands supporting it!" I've seen vehicles fall, trust me you don't want to be under there when it happens. One fell on my dad, and he's a professional mechanic. He forgot to block the tires when he pulled a vehicles driveline and he was on a slope. So when he pulled the driveline it rolled back and off the jack and hit him in the chest. He was blessed in that he had placed blocks of wood under the car and it landed on them and his chest, he was just barely able to squeeze out. Ok with that said, since I'm not there to help you please know what you're doing before you jack up and crawl under a vehicle. If you're not familiar with safely working on vehicles get someone to help you who is. You're life is worth more than the cost of having someone put a starter in it for you. Hope that helps. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya Keith i followed your instructions but i cant see clearly where you placed the jack stand in the video and also im trying to jack up the entire van safely onto 4 jack stands to work in the front and rear.
@@angeloyourreflection9331 Hi Angelo, I have a bunch of videos on the caravan and different repairs. Many of them require the van to have the wheels blocked, the van jacked up and jack stands placed under it. There are a few good places to put them. Anywhere under the box frame is a good choice unless it gets in the way of the job you're doing. If that's the case pick another spot under the frame, axle or connection points for the lower control arms. Try skipping through a few of the videos to find the different areas I place the jack and jack stands. You can also watch a few other UA-cam videos for other peoples perspectives on where the to place them. If you don't have a Chilton's or Haynes service manual on the van I highly suggest you get one. They will also show you good points to jack up and place jack stands under the van as well. If you lived near me in Slidell, Louisiana I'd come over and show you. Other than the video it's kinda hard to just show you or tell you. Just do some video watching and you'll figure it out, it's not hard once you figure it out, you'll probably laugh and say that's all there is to it! If I can do it i'm sure you could do it. Get a friend to show you and help you get this job done. Try this guys video on jack stands etc. ua-cam.com/video/liN8v1p-rEw/v-deo.html Let me know if you get it done. BE SAFE! Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya Do you have an email address so i can email you a picture?
@@angeloyourreflection9331 Sure angelo Keith_Noneya@att.net Also try this video I do a pretty good job of showing where to put the jacks. ua-cam.com/video/13uS2x7h5B0/v-deo.html Keith
Air ratchet is the tool you need so much time is saved
Hey Gary I agree, you're exactly correct. However I made the video for the average person capable of doing home mechanic work. Most of them wouldn't have a compressor or air tools, as most don't do this kind of repair on a daily or even on a weekly basis. So I try to keep my videos to the absolute basic tools needed to do the job. Thanks for watching and the comment. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Great video! I have watched both of them 2 times each.
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see you use the combination wrenches? I have to buy all the tools, still cheaper than paying $400 for a mechanic. I am a pencil pusher, have no experience at all........you didn't use a breaker bar, it is ok to use a ratchet instead? You have saved so many people lots of time. If I didn't have a video, it would probably take me days to do it. thank you!!!!!!
Hey Oregon, love that state. I used to date a girl named Beth in Harrisburg, miss that girl, LOL! Anyways I list the tools you will use or are most likely to use. I have a saying "The best tool to use is the one that gets the job done On Time, Safely & Reliably". So pick the tool that best suits how you want to do the job. If the bolt is on really tight it is best to use the breaker bar, as a cheap ratchet may slip, break or let go and you'll smash your knuckles. Take your time and do the job right the first time. Make sure all the cables are clean and not frayed, if they are clean them or replace them. I had to change the Positive Battery Cable later, as it was corroded inside causing the voltage to be low (8vdc) at the starter, when it was normal, approx. (12vdc), at the battery. PLEASE USE JACK STANDS under the car as shown in the video. DO NOT trust your LIFE to those flimsy tire jacks, also most driveways are sloped so chock the rear wheels front and back. Feel free to ask questions. Since you're new to automotive mechanics I can't suggest HIGHLY enough that you get a friend who is familiar with it to help you & to be a safety observer. My videos are mostly for folks with some experience & to let folks know what's involved. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya thank you so much for the reply.....especially about the positive battery cable!!! Find that girl on facebook and let her know how much she has stood out compared to other girls, it will make her day.
My roommate has ramps so i don't need jackstands.
Yes, I have had my van collapse on a hill with a flimsy tire jack.....it was scary as hell!!!!!Hand almost got flattened!! Hey, the starter motor is on its way, on the top bolt there is another nut? Is the nut 13mm and then the bolt behind it is 15mm?
@@oregon8712 Yep I talk about those bolts at time index 2:34 (13mm) and at time index 3:11 for the (15mm), good eye bud. On those ramps I watched a video where a guy was pulling a transmission and he didn't chalk the tires and it rolled off the ramps on to him. He was ok as he was able to move to an area under the truck fast enough where nothing would crush him. Had it been a car he probably would have been crushed. His friends were able to stop the car rolling and he got out with only a few bruises and scratches.
In my videos, WHEN POSSIBLE, I do four safety things. 1. Block the tires, 2.Put Jack Stands under the frame of the vehicle. 3. Leave the hydraulic jack raised under the vehicle with little to no tension. 4.Three if the tire comes off most of the time I will put it under the frame of the car where it won't be in my way. Being safe it always paramount, cars come and go people and limbs don't. Oh also make sure you disconnect the battery before you pull the starter, or you can end up welding the ratchet to the frame and burn the car down. A good friend with experience is Highly advised. Let me know how it goes. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Might want to remove the airbox to make getting that 12vdc neg connection on that starter, didn't see you do so.
Hi Edmund. Thanks for taking the time to personally write me and give me a suggestion. I get some really good ones on things I miss. I usually put those in the description as redoing the video would be a pain. Anyways, I'm not quite sure what airbox you're referring to? Did you mean remove the battery? It would make getting the negative ground wire off that bolt under the exhaust crossover tube a little easier. However I usually don't have folks do extra step unless they don't have the needed sort of special tools to do the job. That's why I give a tool list in all my mechanic videos. Also feel taking out the battery is just one more things that could go wrong, like dropping it or getting battery acid on their clothes and that would also make the video longer that it is already. I'd have to put some safety stuff in there as well. You do have a good idea though for folks familiar with doing automotive work. Thanks for the comment. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Great video. Not to be critical but it is always best to remove the negative battery cable first instead of the positive. If a wrench slips or hits part of the metal body it can make a hell of a spark and that suddenly could end up hurting you, along with other dangers from sparks. The negative is already part of the body connection so it cannot do any bad as long as you don't hit it to that positive cable connection.
Seen these kind of bad things happen before. Not saying I have not done the positive first when it was much easier. But I would be very careful and was aware of the danger. Inexperienced people may not be.
Thanks Fred, I agree, mostly. Normally I do the Negative first just for that reason. It's best to remove both of them, Negative 1st, and place plastic caps on them. If you only remove one terminal and place a wrench or your arm across the body/frame, and the terminal you removed, you can get a nasty little bite from the battery. In my early years I have removed the Negative before, as you said not realizing there's still a danger. On this particular vehicle I've done that and gotten shocked. I got shocked when my arm was hot and sweaty and I put my arm from the fender and accidentally touched the Negative terminal with my wrist, that lit me up pretty good. So I usually do the Positive only and keep aware of where my tools are. Been having fun with cars for over 35 years and have even accidentally placed a huge wrench across both battery terminals at once. It didn't take but a few seconds for that wrench to get red hot before I was able to knock it free with another wrench, Scared the pants off me, LOL. So no matter which terminal you remove there's that same danger if you don't remove both terminals and cap them. Thanks again Fred for looking our for me and my viewer's, much appreciated. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya Yes you are right actually both of them should be removed neg first and capped off. And on some vehicles that battery is all right there where you are working. Needs everything capped off. I am a 45 year monkey and even I have had a little tingly burn like you say while still being careful. It usually takes some moisture or sweat but it can happen. And what is also dangerous is when you suddenly jump from a burn or big spark and that gets you hurt! With these videos for us that are experienced we tend to think the newbies know to be careful but they don’t always. Hard to remember to teach the newbies everything, but I guess we should be extra careful when instructing them.
I don’t agree with all of the censoring and especially political stuff but if I was in control of youtube I would get rid of some of the auto repair videos. I see people showing, sometimes even encouraging dangerous practices with the procedures for the work or even real bad safety practices. And even if you bring things up to them respectfully they want to fight back instead of admitting the wrongs. I am pretty touchy about when people work on brakes or steering. Mistakes and shortcuts in those areas can get people killed.
@@fcaughli I couldn't agree more. That's actually one of the reasons I started doing automotive repairs on my channel. I grew up in a garage and I was watching videos on YT that scared the heck out of me and I said to myself these guys are going to get someone killed. I try to stress safety in all my videos when I see an issue, especially jacks and jack stands. One of my favorite guys to watch is Scotty Kilmer, but man that dude is dangerous for the novice. I've even commented on some of his videos specifically to him, he's never answered me. I can't remember the guys name but he watched a video on how to change the brakes and was using the van screw jack to hold up the car while crawling under it. He does a lot of videos like that, he even says in his videos not to comment on that or he'll delete your comment and ban you from making comments on his channel. Those are the guys that made me start making vehicle videos. I've done a few risky videos myself, but I mention it in my video and offer a better way in the comment and or at the end of my video. My Caravan Rear Leaf Spring Comes to mind. I was trained by my dad and friends and by reading a lot of books. I worked in a garage with him on weekends and in our house garage. He told me to always to practice safety issues and be safe. Also to avoid working with mechanics who didn't. Feel free to blast away if you see a safety issue in my videos, I'm sure there's a few here and there. I always do a disclaimer and have even refused to help some people on brakes and steering who I know had no business working on those systems. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
We got all bolts out but its stuck in there any Ideas
Hi Shawn, that pin gets crap on it sometimes and you have to gently tap on the metal part next to the transmission while wiggling the starter up and down. Make Sure you have the bolt out under the exhaust cross over tube not just the nut that holds the ground straps on. See time index 4:09 to 4:51 Hope that helps you guys get it out. Don't forget to watch the second one how how to make sure that plate doesn't get warped and start grinding on your flywheel.
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Hey Shawn another tip, these vans are notorious for having a bad Positive battery cable that goes to the starter rotting out. If you change the starter and it still starts hard or not at all. To check it, check the voltage at the battery and then on that post on the starter. If there is more than a 1 volt difference then you could have a rotted out cable. It happened to me and it the initial reason I changed the starter in the first place. Later when it wouldn't start at all even with a new starter, then we figured it out. They also have bad starter relays and solenoids occasionally. Thought I would mention that just in case you ran into that problem. Feel free to drop more questions if needed. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
I do have one concern. It was always my understanding, that when disconnecting battery terminals, you should disconnect the negative terminal on the battery before disconnecting the positive terminal.
Yep, because if there is a dual battery if you disconnect pos first and it comes into contact with the frame it an cause a short. However if you only have one battery it really doesn't matter. You are correct though, it is standard practice to disconnect the negative first. I do the pos on this van because it has been prone to corrosion, so while it's off I inspect and clean it. Thanks for the safety tip. And watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Good
Thanks I appreciate the feedback, and hope all works out for your project. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Unless your double jointed the easiest way to complete this install is to remove the cross support and the driver side fan. It only takes a few min. And if your not a mechanic doing this on a regular basis you will save yourself a lot of headaches.
Hey Dan gave your comment a thumbs up. I've been doing this kind of work for 30 plus years and I agree if you're not willing to have some patients and contort into some funny positions you might want to do it that way. Me I had no problem doing it, but there is usually more than one way to a job.
Thanks for the comment. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
I'm doing this with a vehicle I just bought.
Hi Negan just remember to watch both videos as there is some important dust plate information.
Also I have quite a few videos on the caravan in my playlist here: ua-cam.com/play/PLVLXGvrQp0OsNcwRxmtCkZaF5cjnffAdW.html
Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith
Ambidextrous??? Lol I think you meant to say you have to be a contortionist lol needless to say we all know what you meant, as long as you meant ONE can use both left and right hands/fingers equally the same!! Anyways pretty good clip! Keep up the good work!!
Ahhhhhh!!! That's funny, it's funny what I and others pick up in my videos that I missed and didn't edit out or change years later. Thanks for watching and the nice comment. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
So why are you replacing the starter?
Because the van won't start. LOL, Indications were I had power at the Solenoid but not on the starter when the ignition switch was activated. The starter was old so rather than just replace the Solenoid I opted to change the whole starter with it. After changing the starter I still had a slow start but it started. Months later I also found a bad Positive Battery Cable. The cable had corrosion at the low point and was literally broke in two inside the jacket but touching. I diagnosed the bad cable by putting the meter lead on the battery and had someone turn the key and it remained at 11.5vdc, as expected. Then I put the meter lead on the starter terminal and the voltage dropped to 8.5vdc. That told me I had HIGH resistance in the battery cable, most likely corrosion. After changing the Positive Battery Cable and the Starter the van started regularly without hesitation. Thanks for watching Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Make sure you disconnect the negative and the positive
Negative first
Positive first for reassembly
Yep that's the way it's supposed to be done, but I don't always follow the rules. Thanks for watching and looking out for us. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
my van the same,ordered starter on-line...sent wrong one with ass backwards plug-in and squarish connector,,,loser seller...nice vid
Yeah that's the only real problem ordering on line. It's happened to be before too. But in the long run it's saved me more money than I have lost. Thanks for watching. I hope you get it all worked out. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
My model year 2000 3.3L does not look like this.
Hi nbpt1000, The starter should be the same and the process should be close enough that you can change it. Here's a comment from Cambre Hogoboom from 2 years ago.
"Excellent video. On my 2000 town country you have to remove the air cleaner box if you want to attack the top bolt from above. I had success with the top bolt using a box end 15mm from below. Toughest part for me was getting the new starter in without the metal plate falling off. Thanks again."
For the video years I pulled it straight off the Haynes Repair Manual and the fitment from the starter off eBay. Sorry it didn't work out for you on yours. I guess the Haynes Repair Manual people got it wrong. Thanks for watching anyways, I hope you find parts of the video helpful. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
@@keithnoneya Yes, it may be similar. But I think I will have to attack it all from the bottom. even with the air box removed it looks near impossible to get at that top bolt from the top.
@@nbpt1000 Yep I had to do mine from both directions. Mine was a 2002 Grand Caravan with a 3.8 in it. You think they wouldn't change it that much, morons! Best Wishes & Blessings with your project. Keith Noneya. PS when you figure it out drop a fresh comment to let others know how you did it. Thanks again for the heads up on that. Keith Noneya
Notice how spotless clean that car looked,,, no oil or grease to be seen,,Just an FYI
Yeah I had just changed the transmission in it so it still looked good. LOL Thanks for watching. Best Wishes n Blessings. Keith Noneya
Brace engaine pull mount easer lol
Not really, because you have extra stuff to pull, then you have to put it back on. Just use the right tools and the job is easy enough. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Chrysler/Dodge is no longer an American Company. It's now Fiat Chrysler
Automotive of europe. It took 12 days just to get a warranty covered
replacement starter for my 2019 Dodge Grand Caravan= unacceptable.
Yes it is. That's what happens when American Politicians tax our companies so much that it's cheaper for them to move their headquarters overseas! President Trump & the Republican party are trying to fix this by lowering Corporate Taxes to bring those companies back home so we can employ Americans here rather than foreigners over there. Unfortunately the leadership in the Demoncratic Party is fighting that all the way, saying "It's tax breaks for the Rich" Uh yah it is, but they invest that money to expand or create new companies to make more money. That brings jobs to the poor, who need it most! There will always be rich people I don't care, what I care about is poor people having a job more than I care about some politician tricking you to vote for them using envy. So now we all know why it took 12 days to get a warranty out of a "Used to be American company". It's the Demoncrats leadership fault! Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya