Good stuff Tony. Glad to hear there is no roastyness and as i am having trouble sourcing it, i might delete the midnight wheat too. Thanks for your input to the brew , much appreciated. cheers mate.
+Short Circuited Brewers It's a doosy that's going to need a little time to mellow a bit, but if you like that fresh cut hop taste this will fit the bill. Halving the flameout additions would make this more approachable earlier on. Cheers!
It's a little lighter than midnight wheat, but if thats all you can get your hands on then go ahead and give it a whirl. I wouldn't be afraid to just try it. Best of luck, cheers!
Hey tony, thanks for the vids. I've now purchased a spike system and hopefully going to brew soon. That being said I'm new to brewing and am finding it hard to find recipes that give me a little more info, such as strike water amount and sparge water? Is there a common equation used that I just don't know? For instance if you have a 5 gallon recipe, you'll fill to just above grain bed and then sparge until you get to 5 gallons in the boil kettle? Do you add water for what you're going to lose in the boil? Is there a web site for rookies with some simple step by step recipes I could start with? Sorry for all the questions, I'd appreciate any help. Cheers
+tremac1116 Best book I've read that explains how much water to use with how much grain, etc is Designing Great Beers by Ray Daniels. The first 7 chapters explain everything you will ever need to know. He explains everything in a very easy to understand way, much better than I could ever do in a comment reply. Alternatively, use an online brewing calculator that will tell you these things. Www.brewersfriend.com, www.brewgr.com, www.brewtoad.com. Another option is to spend $20 on BeerSmith, which I use. There is a trial version for PC, or a free and paid version of the app for your phone or tablet. Yes, you will add water to offset what you lose in the boil, to finish with 5 gallons. You are on the right track, so I hope you keep up the research and start brewing some great beers! Sound like you have a great setup and ready to go, so keep me posted and tell me if you post and vids. Cheers!
The equation I use for Strike water is (Mash Thickness X Pounds of Grain / 4) + Dead space in mash tun + liquid in hoses). Assuming you already know about Mash Thickness because you have a Spike System, here would be an example...(1.50 * 12 / 4) + 0.35 + 0.5 = 5.35 gallons of strike water. Then for your system sparge water amount wouldn't really need a number. Sparge until you have the desired amount in your boil kettle. I usually like about 7.25 to 7.5 gallons and account for loss of boil and chilling/chiller volumes. I like to go with 5.5 gallons in the fermentor on a 5 gallon recipe.
Nice grain to glass! Have not brewed a black IPA yet, so very keen to give this a go. Great idea not having to wait for the hlt to get back up to temp, by pre-filling & treating.
+Floor Sweepers Union thanks, yeah it didn't take much longer to heat both the HLT and recirculating water at the same time. I only lose the ability to underlet, which isn't all that beneficial anyways. Cheers!
Love that you went old school for mashing in. Question, why the whirlfloc on a black beer? No harm done obviously but I would think also no benefits with a dark beer. Maybe so it's less muddy is all I can figure. For my black IPA recipe I like to use some dark belgian candi sugar and I think it really adds a little something to the beer especially since I hop the hell out of it. Great brew day Tony, cheers!
+Manbearpig1122334455 Great question! I believe using the whirlfloc tablet at the end of a boil not only helps with the clarification of the beer, but also helps with prolonging the shelflife of the beer itself. It does so by assisting with protein coagulation, where some proteins also contain compounds that lead to premature spoilage. Cheers!
That's debatable, but interesting. I was thinking the same thing when you added the whirlfloc to a Black IPA. I was also curious as to why you would even make it dark if you closed your eyes and couldn't tell the difference. I like a very slight roast in my Black IPA similar to a Sublimely Self-Righteous. I love your video. You don't get to watch many videos that will take you through the whole Brew Day/Keg/Tasting. Well done, sir.
Never went in because it wasn't needed to reach the OG, and I didn't want to add it just because...and end up with a 7.+ beer. I like that it's 5.8%. Cheers!
That's what I understand but what I want to know is how the mash ingredients looks like without that 5% sugar? I mean we will have 92% pale ale, 5% carafa and 3% crystal? Thanks
Hi Bogdan! Yes, that's exactly correct. I'm sorry for any confusion and for not being more explicit about that. In that respect the grainbill is more similar to Stone Sublimely: brewgr.com/recipe/41739/stone-sublimely-self-righteous-ale-imperial-ipa-recipe, so I can't not really call it the 17Crew Black IPA, more just inspired by... :-( I may re-try with the proposed version 1 recipe, brewgr.com/recipe/38750/proposed-17-black-ipa-v1-american-ipa-recipe, just need to get those missing ingredients. Cheers!
Nice video Tony! I wouldn't call it 17black IPA as you changed both the base malt (which was supposed to be a split between pale ale and Maris otter) and the specialty grain. Inspired by is a better term. I too think only Carafa III is the best choice for a Black IPA though. Cheers!
+DrHans Brewery I believe you say this with the best intentions, so thanks for that. The Pale Malt I used is a Extra Pale Maris Otter (3 EBC), which could lead to a whole other discussion/lesson. Technically, however, you are correct. I do not regret excluding Midnight Wheat, which is listed as: 'to be used as a replacement for debittered black malt, aka carafa. Nor do I regret excluding the Dextrose as it's not intended to be a DIPA. It ends up at a nice palatable 5.8%/50-ish ibu beer. I can update my recommendations on the forums with reasoning to reflect this. In the end, since none of us have access to all the exact same ingredients, is is not all just proposed recommendations anyway? It's just a hobby after all. Cheers!
Of Course I did. Yes we all have to tweak the recipes with what we can get our hands on. I did the same thing both becuase I had to and cause I wanted to make some miner changes aswell. cheers!
+Øyvind Thomassen if you want to start drinking it right away, I would recommend using only half the flameout hops, otherwise it will take a couple weeks (at least) for the hops to blossom. If you have some patience, then by all means, hop it to the max! Haha. Cheers!
Yeahhh! that looks like a cracking black IPA! massive hop drops at the end absolutely fantastic I'm going to have to give this one a go bud! Cheers Tony! :)
+The Dean's List Homebrewery Yeah, I remember using the midnight wheat in a FSW Wookie Jack clone and it tasting a little more roasty - but not too much. Cheers!
+The Dean's List Homebrewery Yeah, I remember using the midnight wheat in a FSW Wookie Jack clone and it tasting a little more roasty - but not too much. Cheers!
Good stuff Tony. Glad to hear there is no roastyness and as i am having trouble sourcing it, i might delete the midnight wheat too. Thanks for your input to the brew , much appreciated. cheers mate.
+Victor Bitter Thanks. Yeah of course, it's great having others as a sounding board and listen to different opinions and perspectives. Cheers!
Very nice! Jet black.. you've got some of my favorite hops in there! May have to give this one a try! 17!
+Short Circuited Brewers It's a doosy that's going to need a little time to mellow a bit, but if you like that fresh cut hop taste this will fit the bill. Halving the flameout additions would make this more approachable earlier on. Cheers!
Nice! I need to brew one up soon. Thanks for sharing and the tips. Good to see a grain to glass! Cheers buddy.
+mudflap72 Thanks, glad you liked it. Cheers !
Hey Tony what u think about weyermann’s roasted wheat malt (900-1200ebc) can be sub for midnight wheat?? Thanks
It's a little lighter than midnight wheat, but if thats all you can get your hands on then go ahead and give it a whirl. I wouldn't be afraid to just try it. Best of luck, cheers!
Hey tony, thanks for the vids. I've now purchased a spike system and hopefully going to brew soon. That being said I'm new to brewing and am finding it hard to find recipes that give me a little more info, such as strike water amount and sparge water?
Is there a common equation used that I just don't know? For instance if you have a 5 gallon recipe, you'll fill to just above grain bed and then sparge until you get to 5 gallons in the boil kettle?
Do you add water for what you're going to lose in the boil?
Is there a web site for rookies with some simple step by step recipes I could start with?
Sorry for all the questions, I'd appreciate any help.
Cheers
+tremac1116 Best book I've read that explains how much water to use with how much grain, etc is Designing Great Beers by Ray Daniels. The first 7 chapters explain everything you will ever need to know. He explains everything in a very easy to understand way, much better than I could ever do in a comment reply. Alternatively, use an online brewing calculator that will tell you these things. Www.brewersfriend.com, www.brewgr.com, www.brewtoad.com. Another option is to spend $20 on BeerSmith, which I use. There is a trial version for PC, or a free and paid version of the app for your phone or tablet. Yes, you will add water to offset what you lose in the boil, to finish with 5 gallons. You are on the right track, so I hope you keep up the research and start brewing some great beers! Sound like you have a great setup and ready to go, so keep me posted and tell me if you post and vids. Cheers!
The equation I use for Strike water is (Mash Thickness X Pounds of Grain / 4) + Dead space in mash tun + liquid in hoses). Assuming you already know about Mash Thickness because you have a Spike System, here would be an example...(1.50 * 12 / 4) + 0.35 + 0.5 = 5.35 gallons of strike water. Then for your system sparge water amount wouldn't really need a number. Sparge until you have the desired amount in your boil kettle. I usually like about 7.25 to 7.5 gallons and account for loss of boil and chilling/chiller volumes. I like to go with 5.5 gallons in the fermentor on a 5 gallon recipe.
Nice. New brewday. Looking forward to this. Cheers
+Smush Parker Glad you liked it, cheers!
Nice grain to glass! Have not brewed a black IPA yet, so very keen to give this a go. Great idea not having to wait for the hlt to get back up to temp, by pre-filling & treating.
+Floor Sweepers Union thanks, yeah it didn't take much longer to heat both the HLT and recirculating water at the same time. I only lose the ability to underlet, which isn't all that beneficial anyways. Cheers!
Love that you went old school for mashing in. Question, why the whirlfloc on a black beer? No harm done obviously but I would think also no benefits with a dark beer. Maybe so it's less muddy is all I can figure. For my black IPA recipe I like to use some dark belgian candi sugar and I think it really adds a little something to the beer especially since I hop the hell out of it. Great brew day Tony, cheers!
+Manbearpig1122334455 Great question! I believe using the whirlfloc tablet at the end of a boil not only helps with the clarification of the beer, but also helps with prolonging the shelflife of the beer itself. It does so by assisting with protein coagulation, where some proteins also contain compounds that lead to premature spoilage. Cheers!
That's debatable, but interesting. I was thinking the same thing when you added the whirlfloc to a Black IPA. I was also curious as to why you would even make it dark if you closed your eyes and couldn't tell the difference. I like a very slight roast in my Black IPA similar to a Sublimely Self-Righteous. I love your video. You don't get to watch many videos that will take you through the whole Brew Day/Keg/Tasting. Well done, sir.
With that color you would think that you could taste it. Great job Sir. Can't wait to taste one (or three) =) Cheers Tony. Well done once again. =)
+Drunkinone Yeah, it's interesting. One day! Cheers!
Your a man on a mission.... Do you ever sleep? =)
+Drunkinone i'm about eight hours ahead of you. 😜
Where that 5% sugar went ?
Never went in because it wasn't needed to reach the OG, and I didn't want to add it just because...and end up with a 7.+ beer. I like that it's 5.8%. Cheers!
That's what I understand but what I want to know is how the mash ingredients looks like without that 5% sugar? I mean we will have 92% pale ale, 5% carafa and 3% crystal? Thanks
Hi Bogdan! Yes, that's exactly correct. I'm sorry for any confusion and for not being more explicit about that. In that respect the grainbill is more similar to Stone Sublimely: brewgr.com/recipe/41739/stone-sublimely-self-righteous-ale-imperial-ipa-recipe, so I can't not really call it the 17Crew Black IPA, more just inspired by... :-( I may re-try with the proposed version 1 recipe, brewgr.com/recipe/38750/proposed-17-black-ipa-v1-american-ipa-recipe, just need to get those missing ingredients. Cheers!
Beautiful looking beer Tony. Cheers
+Homebrew Chris Thanks Chris, cheers!
always like your videos Tony, hope you got my recipes I sent you, they looked a little jumbled after I sent them.
+Kris Iglehart I did! Sorry I haven't replied yet. Very interesting! I will reply. Cheers!
Nice video Tony! I wouldn't call it 17black IPA as you changed both the base malt (which was supposed to be a split between pale ale and Maris otter) and the specialty grain. Inspired by is a better term. I too think only Carafa III is the best choice for a Black IPA though. Cheers!
+DrHans Brewery I believe you say this with the best intentions, so thanks for that. The Pale Malt I used is a Extra Pale Maris Otter (3 EBC), which could lead to a whole other discussion/lesson. Technically, however, you are correct. I do not regret excluding Midnight Wheat, which is listed as: 'to be used as a replacement for debittered black malt, aka carafa. Nor do I regret excluding the Dextrose as it's not intended to be a DIPA. It ends up at a nice palatable 5.8%/50-ish ibu beer. I can update my recommendations on the forums with reasoning to reflect this. In the end, since none of us have access to all the exact same ingredients, is is not all just proposed recommendations anyway? It's just a hobby after all. Cheers!
Of Course I did. Yes we all have to tweak the recipes with what we can get our hands on. I did the same thing both becuase I had to and cause I wanted to make some miner changes aswell. cheers!
looks fantastic. good job, cheers
+Jakes Craft Brewing Thanks Jake, cheers!
Well done sir. Cheers
+Jay Jagt Thanks Jay, cheers!
This one looked amazing, I put the recipe in the Grainfather as we speak :) Thanx
+Øyvind Thomassen if you want to start drinking it right away, I would recommend using only half the flameout hops, otherwise it will take a couple weeks (at least) for the hops to blossom. If you have some patience, then by all means, hop it to the max! Haha. Cheers!
That sounds and looks great, Nice head on it too :) Cheers!
+Dan Smith Thanks Dan! Cheers!
Yeahhh! that looks like a cracking black IPA! massive hop drops at the end absolutely fantastic I'm going to have to give this one a go bud! Cheers Tony! :)
+NewToHomeBrew Tom Massive indeed! Needs a bit of time but should come into its own soon enough. Cheers!
+NewToHomeBrew Tom Massive indeed! Needs a bit of time but should come into its own soon enough. Cheers!
That sounds nice; definitely gonna use the carats 5% trick when ai attempt my first BIPA! Cheers?
+The Dean's List Homebrewery Yeah, I remember using the midnight wheat in a FSW Wookie Jack clone and it tasting a little more roasty - but not too much. Cheers!
+The Dean's List Homebrewery Yeah, I remember using the midnight wheat in a FSW Wookie Jack clone and it tasting a little more roasty - but not too much. Cheers!
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