Moto Guzzi V85TT. Why you should consider one...even today.
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- Опубліковано 18 січ 2023
- I finally take a Moto Guzzi V85TT for a test ride. Even though this bike is outclassed by other brands, there are still a few good reasons to consider one.
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Former Stelvio owner and current v85 TT owner. I have to make a strong case for a great overlander that the v85 is. Like everyone's going to do their thing. It's spacked out appropriately stripped back a little full Mistral titanium exhaust/carbon fiber can, k&n some air box mods, a mistral velocity stack and the bike is up 10 ponies to the rear and down 25lbs which brought it to 482 ready to ride with half a tank, oh and an appropriate tune. The bike runs better than my Stelvio and weighs about 100 pounds less. Currently has done just about everything. Colorado can throw at it and it really is just a full of character. Amazing bike. And it gets 55 miles of the gallon. I don't know what else people could want.
Great to hear from another owner. Glad you like the V85TT. Also thank you for sharing your mods. I hope this gives other owners (or possible buyers) some guidance on useful modifications.
I bought this bike 2 day ago. You was right about size when you watch on UA-cam and in real life is totally different.
Beautiful bike ✌️😎
Congrats on your new bike. They are a very nice unit.
Great video, thank you. I own a 20 model travel, and I am still loving every minute that I hop on top of it and go I do like the new 100 and can’t keep it out of my mind as a possible upgrade.
I am looking forward to the new Stelvio. But here in Australia, we have not even seen the V100 yet.
Great vid. I had a chat with my local Piaggio / KTM dealer a while back who's been selling and looking after Guzzis for 20 years. He noted that Paiggio have got their marketing together now, with Aprila being the sports range, Guzzi the classics / tourers, Vespa being the scooters and Piaggio being the mopeds / commuters so it's a deliberate thing. In years gone by the brands were in competition with each other which didn't help.
Totally agree. With the limitations imposed on the V85, Moto Guzzi did a very good job.
I have been riding for over 40 years, my last bikes were all between 110-165 hp, yet this V85 is my favorite bike I have ever owned. I wish people would quit calling it an adv bike, and comparing it to that sector. Yes it goes offroad, and is much more capable than you think. It is so nimble, and being only 5 foot 10, I can flat foot it. Character for days, and being able to give it the beans everywhere is so much more enjoyable than trying to stay legal and alive on my old Multistrada. I have 6600 kms on mine, trouble free, and looking forward to the next 100k. I have a 2022 Centenario, with crash guards, and the taller windshield, and can ride all day in comfort.
That is their strength being able to be ridden all day with little fatigue on the rider.
I can see why it is compared to other ADV bikes, it holds its own well. But is is much stronger in other areas on road than the competition (just not off road). Grin factor, it will win all day.
Same bike I have. Absolutely love it.
heat from headers on hot sunny day ? Oil consuption ? Travel speed 150km/h is possible or reving too high ? travel with two persons and bags are possible? In my town there is not MG dealer so i need basic informations before travelin to nearest MG dealer
Great detailed review, will enjoy this journey of you testing these babies out!
I am having fun, but it is creating havoc trying to decide which option to take.
Very thorough overview with plenty of good points to consider.
Well done mate. ✌️
Not a bad bike for those new to ADV bikes, that would spend most of the time on the road.
Thanks for the support.
You're spot on about the offroad capabilities. Taken mine to the sticks a few times and is one of the lowest maint bikes you can do a big trip on.
Thanks. It is always good to hear from owners. I love Guzzi's. It explains why I have had my Griso for 8 years.
Great video, I have learnt to ride off road on it and it does a good job, I got 50/50 tires and with few other small mods it works great, the nibble handling actually makes the weight not so bad
Thanks for that.
Guzzi make some wonderful handling bikes.
Like wise shocked... These are beautiful in the twists. Balanced. Im a Texas resident ad do long rides. First ride; Corpus Christy to Amarillo. 650 miles mate. 11hrs of highway, not pushing a new engine. Love it. Great review!
Thanks. They can clock up miles with ease. Moto Guzzi knows how to make a comfy seat.
Great video Matt, very comprehensive ✌️🏍
Thanks mate. I have wanted to try one of these since they first came out.
Hi Matt - lovely review - I have had my new V85TT for 6 months and I absolutely love it - it's well-balanced and set and I feel so comfortable on it - I have so much confidence in it...I might just get an Aprillia Toe rag as well but its so hard to find off rode places to go in UK - cheers Maf in Brighton
Thanks for that. That is the thing with Moto Guzzi ownership. You end up loving the brand. The V85 is a very confidence inspiring bike. I am glad you enjoy it and can see many more years of enjoyment for you. Are you excited for the Stelvio release?
@@RoadsOfOz Totally but for me those bikes are a bit too big at the moment...looks awesome though. Take care Matt
Wonderful job Matt. I rode it and I completely agree about the seat, comfort and some other things that you mentioned. I also heard that with this model Guzzi got a lot of new buyers. Anyway a very cool bike. The shaft is perfect on this one. Enjoyed watching your video bro.
Glad to hear the V85 has a new fan base. It should appeal to more people than just the ADV as it would make a great daily rider and weekend tourer.
@@RoadsOfOz Couldn't agree more Matt.
It just looks 'correct'. I love the look of it. No other mid-size has a shaft drive either.
@@falcn12 I agree. Looking for a shaft this is the only option. You can check my test ride video. :).
I love my '22 V85 TT Centenario. My first Guzzi but have wanted one for years. I will be doing lots of pavement miles (backroads) and significant gravel. Probably not high tech offroad. I think it is brilliant.
You have the perfect bike for it.
Matty you were so close to my place haha, I've always loved these
I used to play baseball at those fields back in the 90's. I did forget about the aircraft noise until I started filming.
They are such a nice bike. I was keen to try one when they first came out.
I have owned 30+ bikes in my lifetime, 2 MGs. They are fun but can't compare to the Japanese bikes in the same displacement category regarding reliability and mechanical refinement. However, they are easier to wrench on and require more operator attention and involvement to keep going, which is great. It is important to be needed and need creates value.
Due to their low(ish) power outputs, this seems to preserve part so much better. I agree, the interaction you have with a Moto Guzzi sets it apart from just about every other make.
I was considering a similar style bikes. But did google search and say Enduros only get about 14,000 miles the mg getting 200,000 some say
Wow that's really cool and awesome bike bro. Great thing discussion on that bike bro. Keep it up and more vidz to come my friend.... ☝️😊🤙❤️💯
Thanks, Will do.
I've just got one of these, went in to buy a visor and put a deposit down and forgot the visor ! Its not something i'd usually look at, I've an old Africa twin, Suzuki DR and a Ducati. V85 is so much fun, 50 now and it suits me great on and a bit off road (with better tyres), not the cheapest but I thought it could be the last air-cooled bike of this size, shaft drive, dash board screen thing is the best I've seen, go test ride one its a lot of fun and will make you smile. good review, many thanks ✌
Thank you. Which one did you buy (was it the travel )?
@@RoadsOfOz I got the black one with side lights and centre stand, no luggage, had to get the heated grips fitted, ive got some good soft luggage , so all good
Congratulations on 1k Man.
Thanks mate.
Good honest review Mate 😎.
Thanks mate.
Enjoyed the review. I've a new found application of Guzzi after riding a V7 850 on Tenerife. I actually went to test the V85 and the sales guy talked me out of it because he said I would find it gutless after riding an MT10.
The red and yellow Ronald Mcdonald colour scheme appealed to me.
It is quite a talking point that colour scheme. I understand why the sales guy would say that. But its power delivery would be ideal for those new to dirt roads. It would sit nicely next to the MT10. I know I was thinking how it would go well with the Griso.
I mean, sure, of course it's going to lack compared to an MT10 - but that's like comparing a Golf with a Cayman. Two totally different animals. Would I take a V85 with more power? Of course. But it has more than enough to make every. single. ride. a really fun experience.
5k on the clock on my 2022 v85tt travel.Love it.
One of the few bikes I’ve never tried mate looks comfortable though bet it’s a big klm killer great vid Matt cheers
Very comfy. It is something Moto Guzzi does very well.
That was a very good review, Matt. Cavalca bene. Cheers
Thanks for watching. I appreciate the support.
This moto has lot of character. I love it
They are definitely a likable bike. Then again, most Guzzi's are.
I loved my V85, but like you say, def more of a road bike than a trail bike. Had I wanted a road bike, I'd have probably kept mine... although the V100 is a far more tempting road bike! 😀
I imagine a lot of folk are waiting for the V100 stopping the V85 selling as many... which is a shame as they are very different bikes.
I think there will be alot of second hand V85's come on the market from Moto Guzzi owners wanting to get the V100 as well. I know I would love to try the V100, but they are not here in Australia yet.
@@RoadsOfOz Hopefully they will get over there soon! 🙂
I have the v85tt, will keep it. The V100 is next, 2 very different machines and purposes. For long-distance rides, i.e., cross country, it's the v85tt hands down, the economy range and comfort has it over. The V100 would be my weekender around 500 miles range. The v85tt would be my 12k machine hands down.
60 years riding and over a million miles.😮 Steven
Nice review Rob
Cheers mate.
best looking ADV in my opinion and yes, sure I have one :)
They are a good looking bike. The rear lights look the nicest of all ADV bikes.
100%
Im shocked that you did not mention handling in the twists and ride compliance. Two strengths. Yep its an 85/15 road /offroad. Only shaft drive in its category. Agreed on all else said. Nice work.
Sadly, was not able to take it to a fun road. But being a Moto Guzzi, You expect it to handle well. Thanks for watching.
@@RoadsOfOz Once you install the optional Ohlins rear shock and throw in a good cartridge kit (I went with Matris), the handling is seriously, seriously good.
Thank goodness they turn off ABS for offroad but yeah, it's def a street heavy bike. Is the angle on the cylinders the same, they look closer to the center then your griso? I love analog clocks but I also love the latest TFT screens! For stock it sounds great! Super solid review Matt!
Thanks mate. The motor on my Griso is a larger capacity, coupled with the different tanks of the two, it may give the appearance of different angles. But both are 90 degree transverse V twins.
I am converted to these new TFT screens now.
I just bought one of these, selling points for me were cruise control, which is sorely missing in almost all other midweight ADV'ish bikes. The shaft drive, which is also a rarity. The transverse mounted engine which looks cool with the cylinders poking out the sides and the torque twist at idle. I think the dash and electrics are about on par with other bikes, if not a bit quirky. The styling is so Italian, it's up to your taste but I love it. I live on a managed dirt road and that's the extent of the off-roading this bike will face. The only downside for me is the horrendous amount of heat coming up from the bike. Even on 80 degree days (28C) my legs are getting really hot and forget getting a seat heater the bike naturally heats the seat up. I'm in a place where I can de-cat the exhaust and re-map the computer to add more fuel to hopefully bring the heat down.
Good luck with the remapping. I hope it sorts out the excessive heat issue. Check out this option for your bike: motociclo.com.au/product/booster-plug-fuel-injection-auto-tuning/
Great review...thanks.
You are welcome. Glad you liked it.
G,day great video top review
Thanks for that. Glad you like it.
Right on 🎉
This is likely simply the Guzzi to have. I've got a v7 myself, and the overly stiff suspension is my main gripe. Alot of perks on this you don't get with the standard models, and the price difference isn't huge.. The windscreen and beefier suspension probably makes it the perfect daily. The engine in these is something you grow to love. If you're used to Japanese bikes, it feels unrefined, but it has character. Coming from Harleys though, feels smooth as butter!
There are times that I wish that I had bought one of these. The GS I own is amazing, but does not make me smile the way a Guzzi does.
I’m wrapped in this bike. I’ve owned an R80GS and and an R100GS. This bike reminds me a lot of my R80GS. Big lazy mile eater you can take on gravel roads.
Will be looking into that soon. After I put a larger screen on it.
Nice work mate, not sure you had to tell us your a fan boy I think we all knew 😂🤣
After owning my Griso, It is hard not to be.
I have a 2022, with 12,000 miles and its really great bike
I do like them. They are very good value at the moment due to the release of the Stelvio.
great review mate ! im in the market for a good used used bike this year and narrowed it down to 2, v85tt or honda vfr 800x , heart says honda but head says v85tt , less complex and more suited to my home maintenance ... off road has no interest to me at all so if i choose the MG it will be strictly for road use only. Whatever i choose it will be a bit different from my FJR 1300. PS i haven't dismissed a later model FJR as yet !! but that's biking for you !... stay safe.
That would be a tough choice. I would go the V85TT just as it is something very different. They are a nice bike to ride and if you have never owned a Guzzi, you can tick it off the to do list.
I did search on longevity. I'm not mechanic. Unless I missed something. But some have 200,000 on these heard most Enduros only get about 14,000 . That's a big difference
Really like the bike. I hope I will replace my Dorsoduro 750 to V85TT matte black one day. I think they are quite similar in design because of front fender.
The bike does look good in black. The colour schemes are a little more subtle than the first bikes.
I really like the look of the bike, especially in the green and silver colour scheme. But when I went and looked at them in person I was kinda surprised/disappointed that it felt quite plasticy in a way which didnt really match it's classically inspired styling
The plastic look is probably due to the matt finish. Did you see one with a gloss paint work?
Thanks fore the video. Thinking to by one New. Riding R850R in the Nederlands. Hold on to my BMW. And get me a new Guzzi fore my Birthday.
I bought my Griso as a birthday present for myself. Best birthday present ever. Let me know if you get one.
Very nice video
Thanks.
It's a lovely bike
It sure is. It was very nice to ride.
Good to see a review by someone a good height. Reviews by guys 5'8" and less are useless.
Thanks for that.
I bought my first adventure bike coming from a dirbike motorcross background... I actually love this bike! The Goods! Good power, Good Fun Factor, Nimbleness is good, Gravel Roads its good holds its own its fine, Comfortable very good, Reliablitliy I got 10K no issues change oil's etc, great on the wallet fuel and maintenance..... The bads Narley Terrain ahhhhh there is much better adventure bikes, pure Deep SAND ahhhh not that good..I hit a sink pit of SAND at about 70 Kms it was Gravel Road to Sand like that... On top of that I was doubling my wife on the back.... So Sketchy is the best way I can describe... I didnt lay it down in the sand but I did bring it down to about 15 to 20 kms in sand until I got through that sandy area.. The biggest problem was I was not ready for the sand so I did some crazy wobbles in the sand because there was a big Hump in the middle from farm tractor trenching soooooo ya but man I love the bike its a Mile Muncher with about I would say 70% pavement 30% offroad capabilities... I do want to push it more off-road just see what its limits are but it would be slow travels on knarley trails... Stay tuned I hope to do some videos in the future on it off-roading of course..... I like a challenge! PS there is a guy on Tik Tok who does crazy back country riding with it so Im amazed at what it can actually do......Cheers Mate from a friendly Canadian God Bless!
Sounds like you are riding it like a true adventure bike.
I am also interested in doing an off road course in the not too distant future. So I look forward to seeing how you go.
@@RoadsOfOz thanks I think the bike is capable 😀 but will have its limits being rider experience one of them. Weight is there but it's not as bad as it seems on paper... the Weight is distributed where the machine feels light and low center of gravity... which also gives a great riding experience... I'll definitely keep ya in the loop or even better fallow my shorts on UA-cam
Merci beaucoup l'Ami
You are very welcome.
I'm scheduled to trade in my 1190adv for a V85TT this Wednesday.
I KNOW I'm going to miss that 150hp on the 1190, but to me, with my age, style of riding, tastes and a bunch of subjective stuff, that's pretty much the only appeal the 1190 ever had. I find it to be an ugly, generic looking bike, with a bit of a boring ride unless I'm going way over the speed limit.
The Guzzi has amazing looks, I've loved the brand since I had my 2000 V11 sport and I'm hoping the V85TT puts a riding smile back on my face.
I am sure it will. It reatins some of the quirky and fun features. Like the start up the way the bike shakes left to right.
You will not be disappointed. Enjoy your new bike.
@@RoadsOfOz does it still dip if you downshift while turning right?
Nobody has ever come close to making a better sounding bike than a V11... I missed that sound, I hope the V85 brings a little of that.
Mate, you keep saying it's primarily a road bike, but out here in Spain, they really rate it for its off-road capability. I'm looking round for a second bike now, comparing the Triumph Tiger 900 GT, Husky Norden 901, KTM 890 Rally, and the Guzzi V85TT. The Guzzi is stiff competition for all these bikes. For fuel economy and servicing costs, it wins hands down. The KTM has the kudos and the equipment but it boils your legs at normal speeds. The Norden is cool but it's ridiculously wide and tall.
Definitely try all those that you listed below. Also look at the Triumph Tiger Rally Pro if you are planning on doing more off road rides.
The Guzzi is a great bike. Moto Guzzi owners (like myself) love their bikes and can be a touch biased. Reporters are surpised by its off road capability as they were not expecting much in the first place. If your heart is set on the V85TT, i'd say go for it. They are an easy bike to love.
@Roads Of Oz I have been doing mate, the Triumph was amazing. Really easy to ride, and the engine is an absolute corker. The Norden, I just couldn't get on with at all. I love the looks and the level of equipment is great, but I found it ungainly and really tough to handle. I'm waiting to try the V85 next week, and the V100 as well, and then I'll make a decision. I suspect I already know which one it'll be though!
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No other motor on the shelf at the moment? Ahem….the V100 would like a word.
That motor has only come out recently. In some countries (like Australia), it is not here yet. I expect it in the new Stelvio though.
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Honestly find all brands just utterly boring except for MG. Have a V7 4 and about to collect a v85 to join it.
Ahh. Another MG enthusiast. They are an addictive bike. Congrats on the new purchase.
Who would buy it? Imagine a 50 year old man who wants to tour in comfort on a beautiful bike that looks like nothing else on the road. This man has another bunch of bikes in the garage, one for speed, one for silly stunts, one for off road, a bunch of classics. This bike won't deliver the power of a KTM 1290 or BMW GS, you won't cruise on the highway at 120mph. The comfortable speed on a bike like this is about 80 to 90mph. The suspension is very good for what it is meant to do, it has a driveshaft, air cooled, not wide like an elephant and easy to maintain. The same man also would have a bunch of other Guzzis in the garage, brand loyal and is looking to do many miles per day in comfort.
That 50yr old man is ME and I love mine.
Great to hear from an owner. owning multiple Guzzi's would be an absolute joy.
I’m picking up a NEW 2021 model today 20200 ride away it’s the 100 anniversary model the green one ☝️
Congrats. They are a great looking bike.
Moto Guzzi is a motorcycle company that makes motorcycles for people who like to ride motorcycles.
Japanese bikes, and now the majority of European bikes, feel like electric scooters.
No vibe, no rumble. It's like comparing a gen 1 Miata vs a 2024 Miata.
I agree. You find alot of people that own Moto Guzzi's generally keep them. I still have my Griso even though I purchased A BMW R1250 GS.
@@RoadsOfOz I have an 8v Griso too...I will _never_ sell that bike.
My one and only complaint about the Griso is the horrible range. If I ride mine conservatively, I get ~140 miles. If I ride it as it is supposed to be ridden, far less.
Belisamo
A bit out of my budget Matt!
I would say in the next twelve months (when the Moto Guzzi V100 arrives), there will be quite a few on the market. This may push the price down on a used one. But I think Smokey probably has another 100k left in that bullet proof motor.
They're dirt cheap in Canada
That is great news. Hope you grabbed yourself a bargain. They are quite expensive here in Australia.
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It's out classed by nothing.It's the only mid sized adventure bike with shaft drive on the planet.I wouldn't trade mine for anything else.
It is a great mid sized bike. I can see the attraction.
Guzzi does have 1500 aud off v85 MY22s now. If you push you can get it to 2k from some dealers. That’s probably the best you will get on a new bike.
I expect you may do even better in a few months if they are sitting on the showroom floor.
@@RoadsOfOzyou were right… it’s now 2500 off my22 retail price, even more vs the my23 prices.