Melling, one of the best manufactures of aftermarket oil pump, is manufacturing oil pumps for the d16y7 engines. In fact I just got my M383 oil pump back from Bad Guys.
things K series guys wont have to worry about for another 20 years since K is much more popular than D series has ever been so demand will be there. I doubt anyone will step up for D series parts as demand is low....even B series are unwanted these days.
Yeah, K really is the way and has been for the last what, 10 years or whatever its been. It has such a huge aftermarket for it. D and B just have run their course in the parts department.
@@RefineMovement Props to you for still planning to build your d-series! 🍺 It's quite easy to build a quick k-series motor since it's already quick out of the box, slap in a VTC gear upgrade, a good header (PLM Toda copy is good enough) and do some ECU remapping and it can already be competitive for circuit. But I guess the nice challenge in building a d-series NA motor is squeezing every bit from an underdog motor that's been built for primarily for economy. I've followed some great d-series builds and have taken down notes through the years that may help you with your project, just let me know how I can send them to you.
I'm planning on rebuilding the 1.5 liter in my 94 Honda civic and I was having trouble trying to find a timing cover. I want to use a K series as my last resort.
D series was one the best selling engines in 88-00. If. Wasn’t for the D you wouldn’t have B or K. So respect the D series it paved the way for engineering :)
Not only the parts are becoming harder to find, let's take it a bit further with the actual cars themselves are becoming harder to find in good shape or even for a reasonable price. I think we'll eventually look into a totally different chasis to swap these engines into such as how ghost boy aki is now swapping a k series into a rx8
I agree, but why would someone want to swap a D series into another chassis? Obviously they are very good engines for what they are, but good enough to be worth swapping into another chassis? Not really IMO. The K series is a different story though, they are seriously impressive engines even by modern standards.
Wow! I just ordered 2 new yamada D pumps this year, so lucky to have them. We take this stuff for granted then one day just like that, its gone. I love the little D engine, i think its a neat motor in a nice package- anyone here can go K but it wouldn't be the same to me.
@@steelontarget Yeah, i think everyone knows that. Should we all do something just because its faster? Can we choose to preserve something old for fun?
@@steelontarget i would run a k all day if i made a track car for infinite reasons. I run the d series as a daily beater for fun and nostalgia. Him running a d on track is his prerogative.
Well said. We take it for granted until its gone. If you plan to stick with that D series I say its a good thing you got those 2 new pumps. Just in case you know
I just remembered what DHPS did with the B-series heads back in the day. I hope someone steps in to build good replacements or buy the tooling or casting from Yamada.
I have a D15B7 engine going out... Want to replace with a D15B or a D16Z6 engine. Do these all have Y pump? If so I am keeping my pump from my D15B7 just in case.
Hi I was wondering if you have a part number for the d16a oil pump or the oil seal for the larger crank seal? Please and thank you. I’ve tried watching other videos to get info but couldn’t find it
I don’t have the part number for either off hand, I’m sorry. I do however show the part number in my D16a first stay up video which is just a months after this video if you care to look it up in my timeline e
DOING A HUGE REFRESH INTERNAL TUNE UP MY 2OOO CIVIC IS GOING ON 25O,OOO MILES EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING ON 2O YEARS OF SOME OEM PART SINCE I GOT IT 2O YEARS AGO I WANT TO KEEP EXTENDED THE LIFE SPAN OF THE CAR AND ENGINE SO I WENT AHEAD AND SWANG BY MY LOCAL [H]ONDA DEALERSHIP AND ORDER ONE OIL PUMP FOR $117 BUCK$ THAT'S WITH TAXE$ NOW I FEEL A BIT SECURE
Just to make things a bit more confusing, the Z style engines were used way longer than '95 in certain markets. I own a EUDM, 6th gen Civic Fastback. They only existed here in Europe and were kind of a missing link between 5th and 6th gen, parts wise. Many parts are mixed and matched, examples: - My model year is '95-'00, but I've got a Z style engine in there - The exhaust is 50% 5th gen hatch parts - The suspension is partially 6th gen parts Btw, I went with an ACL Pump, I hope it will serve me well. :)
Did I skip some vids. I see a full engine bay after watching painting it and working on the engine. Didn't see a mounting video on that or did is lipped something
You could punch a hole and use a Z6 dip stick on you Y engine, OR just use a D17 valve cover and dip stick. EDIT: Another note, I recall you mentioning your D16A type oil pump having a larger drive- the oil pump drive on the crankshaft snout was larger? In that case- without having measure it or anything, because I've never experienced that before- I'd make the guess that a D17 oil pump could be used, if they're still being produced and the OBD2 D16 pumps aren't. Wouldn't be a very expensive experiement, you can find cheapass pumps on eBay for like $30 USD- wouldn't hold them to be reliable, though.
interesting things you bring up! That would be something if the d17 pump fit it. You recall it right, the D16a oil pump has a bigger opening to fit around the crank than a y7/y8 has
I like the idea of drilling the dip stick hole. That seems like it would be pretty straight forward. Also I mentioned earlier that melling makes an oil pump for the y7/y8.
If someone can help that would be great. So my 99 y8 stock engine got ruined because my oil pump seized up. I got another engine with around 170000 miles and the oil pump is not seized up. I'm doing a factory oem complete engine rebuild and have been questioning if I should use this pump. The gears spin freely and not get bound up but still not completely sure if I should. Does anyone feel that in engine stock form just using the useable pump will be ok????
D16Z6 actually has some aftermarket options which is great. I guess it being an "Si" engine it got more aftermarket support. ACL makes a Z6 oil pump and other companies port those out even too. As far as new Yamada pumps, I don't think they would be available anymore though. Something to look into.
Never had a problem with a Honda oil pump…..ever and I’ve been working on cars for 15 years.you have to really fuck some stuff up to need a new one,maybe new seals but not the whole pump
I just saw your video and I really feel a little worried when I have to change the oil pump on my d16 and they don't produce it anymore, so I ask you, would it be good to jump to series B? Believe me I am a fan like you to the d16 for its simplicity and incredible performance. greetings and thanks for teaching us more and more 🇻🇪🇺🇸
Man I don't know, thats going to be personal preference. For my money, I don't think I would do B-series. Never say never you know, but I wouldn't plan on going B series just because all the parts are just as old as the D stuff. K really is the way since the aftermarket is so huge for it and the engine is still relatively "new"
Just go aftermarket... Just because it doesn't say Honda OEM who cares... i literally just checked my back up for parts RockAuto and found 5 different aftermarket oil pumps from the cheap trash $50 to a OEM'ish quality $139 pump.
seriously.? global.? i dont know but here in my country they shoul be still produce, because we never get civic B series here, and stil alot people still drive it.. and my car not d16, but d15, we have that a honda city that only sell only in some country, produce in thailand.. but maybe i should search the oil pump, this cars only produce 3 years you know.
Yeah, global discontinuation is what I have read. Interesting to hear your side of the world never got B series. A lot of people in America would have still been using the D series too, including me! But it’s just at that age where the parts aren’t needed as much as 10 years ago but they want people to buy new cars too
@@RefineMovement so it's global, T_T, i really enjoying my car with this d series, it has really good gas mileage, but has good power too. i have it 5 years now, still got problem, need to change clutch and some oil leaking problem (it's quite some price for me ) but i gonna fix it slowly one by one. and for oil pump i search in my local online store, there still many in the list, and its really quite expensive for me to stock one. maybe after i buy clutch and other things, i will saving up and buy one for future. and maybe next time i will ask my mechanic to check either the oil pump is still in good condition or has aging and will need to replace in sometimes. btw we have B series from first gen CRV, but non vtec, and yeah we never got b series for civic, and worst we never got civic coupe, crx, dc2, its really really rare in here, that type only have under 5 for each model in here. its more rare than gallardo you know hahahaha..
Well what about for the H series the famous h22A block or that Euro R H22A block are those pumps running out too? Dammm those H series can move and not only that, not too many people has H series so new pumps must be stock up full. d series and B series are the epics swaps in the Honda history now K series are taking over. I’m on my 30s another 20years with K series before their parts stops producing, i will be old grandpa pissing myself and not looking to race anymore besides aftermarket company’s like Ktuned they have their own water pumps and many parts available for K so I should say, 30 years before the CEO Sells the Ktuned company or Hybrid Racing people CEO gets old too & they do want to retired sale the company get paid and move on. K series it’s the way to go, as I say before nothing last forever. RIP dseries & bseries hahahaaa good thing I sold my b20V series swap last week lol good timing hahahaaa
I'm currently in the middle of a y8 build and my yamada pump just arrived yesterday! Good thing I didn't wait to order it lol
This video has great info and points!
Lol try looking for any parts for a 1991 Civic, now there is a challenge! Good video! 👍🏼
haha I bet man!
Try a ‘79 civic wagon lol
Mine is 99 and i found a lot of things...
Melling, one of the best manufactures of aftermarket oil pump, is manufacturing oil pumps for the d16y7 engines. In fact I just got my M383 oil pump back from Bad Guys.
Props for not giving up on the d series build 🙌🏻
things K series guys wont have to worry about for another 20 years since K is much more popular than D series has ever been so demand will be there. I doubt anyone will step up for D series parts as demand is low....even B series are unwanted these days.
Yeah, K really is the way and has been for the last what, 10 years or whatever its been. It has such a huge aftermarket for it. D and B just have run their course in the parts department.
@@RefineMovement Props to you for still planning to build your d-series! 🍺 It's quite easy to build a quick k-series motor since it's already quick out of the box, slap in a VTC gear upgrade, a good header (PLM Toda copy is good enough) and do some ECU remapping and it can already be competitive for circuit.
But I guess the nice challenge in building a d-series NA motor is squeezing every bit from an underdog motor that's been built for primarily for economy. I've followed some great d-series builds and have taken down notes through the years that may help you with your project, just let me know how I can send them to you.
I'm planning on rebuilding the 1.5 liter in my 94 Honda civic and I was having trouble trying to find a timing cover. I want to use a K series as my last resort.
D series was one the best selling engines in 88-00. If. Wasn’t for the D you wouldn’t have B or K. So respect the D series it paved the way for engineering :)
did you try opening both oil pump and see if the parts the same like me having a b20 with b18b oil pump on b20 for ckp
Not only the parts are becoming harder to find, let's take it a bit further with the actual cars themselves are becoming harder to find in good shape or even for a reasonable price. I think we'll eventually look into a totally different chasis to swap these engines into such as how ghost boy aki is now swapping a k series into a rx8
I agree, but why would someone want to swap a D series into another chassis? Obviously they are very good engines for what they are, but good enough to be worth swapping into another chassis? Not really IMO. The K series is a different story though, they are seriously impressive engines even by modern standards.
D series for life. The d16 in my ek still runs with 150000 miles.
mine almost 200k
Mines 350000
Wow! I just ordered 2 new yamada D pumps this year, so lucky to have them. We take this stuff for granted then one day just like that, its gone. I love the little D engine, i think its a neat motor in a nice package- anyone here can go K but it wouldn't be the same to me.
Of course not, it would actually be faster.
@@steelontarget Yeah, i think everyone knows that. Should we all do something just because its faster? Can we choose to preserve something old for fun?
@@srarcade on a track car? No, let's make nostalgia priority.
@@steelontarget i would run a k all day if i made a track car for infinite reasons. I run the d series as a daily beater for fun and nostalgia. Him running a d on track is his prerogative.
Well said. We take it for granted until its gone. If you plan to stick with that D series I say its a good thing you got those 2 new pumps. Just in case you know
I just remembered what DHPS did with the B-series heads back in the day. I hope someone steps in to build good replacements or buy the tooling or casting from Yamada.
I have a D15B7 engine going out...
Want to replace with a D15B or a D16Z6 engine.
Do these all have Y pump? If so I am keeping my pump from my D15B7 just in case.
Just good content rolling out 🇺🇸
What is the black box? Heated you saying it a couple times, really have no clue what it is. I thought either filter or oil reservoir
Where I can buy one
Hi I was wondering if you have a part number for the d16a oil pump or the oil seal for the larger crank seal? Please and thank you. I’ve tried watching other videos to get info but couldn’t find it
I don’t have the part number for either off hand, I’m sorry. I do however show the part number in my D16a first stay up video which is just a months after this video if you care to look it up in my timeline e
Refine Movement : thank you I’ll look
Anyone has any updates on this situation ?
Drop a b series and still be just fine!
DOING A HUGE REFRESH INTERNAL TUNE UP MY 2OOO CIVIC IS GOING ON 25O,OOO MILES EVEN THOUGH IT'S GOING ON 2O YEARS OF SOME OEM PART SINCE I GOT IT 2O YEARS AGO I WANT TO KEEP EXTENDED THE LIFE SPAN OF THE CAR AND ENGINE SO I WENT AHEAD AND SWANG BY MY LOCAL [H]ONDA DEALERSHIP AND ORDER ONE OIL PUMP FOR $117 BUCK$ THAT'S WITH TAXE$ NOW I FEEL A BIT SECURE
Just to make things a bit more confusing, the Z style engines were used way longer than '95 in certain markets.
I own a EUDM, 6th gen Civic Fastback. They only existed here in Europe and were kind of a missing link between 5th and 6th gen, parts wise. Many parts are mixed and matched, examples:
- My model year is '95-'00, but I've got a Z style engine in there
- The exhaust is 50% 5th gen hatch parts
- The suspension is partially 6th gen parts
Btw, I went with an ACL Pump, I hope it will serve me well. :)
Wow that’s all really interesting! Thanks for sharing. Yes for sure, I hope the ACL works out great for you!
Started to get worry about my B series 😢
Luckily I just got a new oil pump...
Did I skip some vids. I see a full engine bay after watching painting it and working on the engine. Didn't see a mounting video on that or did is lipped something
But how is it with other parts then? Kinda weird they stop one part of an engine and then keep producing the rest right?
Scary! I'm rebuilding a y8
You could punch a hole and use a Z6 dip stick on you Y engine, OR just use a D17 valve cover and dip stick.
EDIT:
Another note, I recall you mentioning your D16A type oil pump having a larger drive- the oil pump drive on the crankshaft snout was larger?
In that case- without having measure it or anything, because I've never experienced that before- I'd make the guess that a D17 oil pump could be used, if they're still being produced and the OBD2 D16 pumps aren't. Wouldn't be a very expensive experiement, you can find cheapass pumps on eBay for like $30 USD- wouldn't hold them to be reliable, though.
interesting things you bring up! That would be something if the d17 pump fit it. You recall it right, the D16a oil pump has a bigger opening to fit around the crank than a y7/y8 has
I like the idea of drilling the dip stick hole. That seems like it would be pretty straight forward. Also I mentioned earlier that melling makes an oil pump for the y7/y8.
@@jefflarson4117 - Hey, that's good to know!
If someone can help that would be great. So my 99 y8 stock engine got ruined because my oil pump seized up. I got another engine with around 170000 miles and the oil pump is not seized up. I'm doing a factory oem complete engine rebuild and have been questioning if I should use this pump. The gears spin freely and not get bound up but still not completely sure if I should. Does anyone feel that in engine stock form just using the useable pump will be ok????
What about the d16z series?
D16Z6 actually has some aftermarket options which is great. I guess it being an "Si" engine it got more aftermarket support. ACL makes a Z6 oil pump and other companies port those out even too. As far as new Yamada pumps, I don't think they would be available anymore though. Something to look into.
@@RefineMovement thanks!
Drop a k series in and you won’t have to worry about parts being sold out / unavailable.
It is true
Never had a problem with a Honda oil pump…..ever and I’ve been working on cars for 15 years.you have to really fuck some stuff up to need a new one,maybe new seals but not the whole pump
My d16y7 oil pump seized on track ending my motor. They don’t last forever.
The time has not come , someone get that fucking shit on production line ASAP ! 🤬🤬🤬
👍🏿🔥👍🏿 good to know
Engine upgrade maybe the only possibility.
Its only a matter of time before oem b series oil pump is gone forever 😢💔
I agree man. Along with a whole other list of parts from its catalogue. Same with D series
D16B2 oil pump is different again
B series is next...
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Shit, I'm bout to buy 1 just to hoard it and sell it in like 10 years for TOP DOLLA!
I just saw your video and I really feel a little worried when I have to change the oil pump on my d16 and they don't produce it anymore, so I ask you, would it be good to jump to series B? Believe me I am a fan like you to the d16 for its simplicity and incredible performance. greetings and thanks for teaching us more and more 🇻🇪🇺🇸
Man I don't know, thats going to be personal preference. For my money, I don't think I would do B-series. Never say never you know, but I wouldn't plan on going B series just because all the parts are just as old as the D stuff. K really is the way since the aftermarket is so huge for it and the engine is still relatively "new"
Just go aftermarket... Just because it doesn't say Honda OEM who cares... i literally just checked my back up for parts RockAuto and found 5 different aftermarket oil pumps from the cheap trash $50 to a OEM'ish quality $139 pump.
seriously.? global.?
i dont know but here in my country they shoul be still produce, because we never get civic B series here, and stil alot people still drive it..
and my car not d16, but d15, we have that a honda city that only sell only in some country, produce in thailand..
but maybe i should search the oil pump, this cars only produce 3 years you know.
Yeah, global discontinuation is what I have read. Interesting to hear your side of the world never got B series. A lot of people in America would have still been using the D series too, including me! But it’s just at that age where the parts aren’t needed as much as 10 years ago but they want people to buy new cars too
@@RefineMovement so it's global, T_T, i really enjoying my car with this d series, it has really good gas mileage, but has good power too. i have it 5 years now, still got problem, need to change clutch and some oil leaking problem (it's quite some price for me ) but i gonna fix it slowly one by one. and for oil pump i search in my local online store, there still many in the list, and its really quite expensive for me to stock one. maybe after i buy clutch and other things, i will saving up and buy one for future. and maybe next time i will ask my mechanic to check either the oil pump is still in good condition or has aging and will need to replace in sometimes. btw we have B series from first gen CRV, but non vtec, and yeah we never got b series for civic, and worst we never got civic coupe, crx, dc2, its really really rare in here, that type only have under 5 for each model in here. its more rare than gallardo you know hahahaha..
Well what about for the H series the famous h22A block or that Euro R H22A block are those pumps running out too? Dammm those H series can move and not only that, not too many people has H series so new pumps must be stock up full. d series and B series are the epics swaps in the Honda history now K series are taking over. I’m on my 30s another 20years with K series before their parts stops producing, i will be old grandpa pissing myself and not looking to race anymore besides aftermarket company’s like Ktuned they have their own water pumps and many parts available for K so I should say, 30 years before the CEO Sells the Ktuned company or Hybrid Racing people CEO gets old too & they do want to retired sale the company get paid and move on. K series it’s the way to go, as I say before nothing last forever. RIP dseries & bseries hahahaaa good thing I sold my b20V series swap last week lol good timing hahahaaa
D series isn't the platform it use to be in the 90s and early 2000s, even B is losing itself. K is the only way to go now.
I agree that K is the only way to go now. D and B series just getting too old
i wanna die :(
dude no! lol Sorry to bring on the bad news but your comment literally made me laugh outloud
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