Jet Set Radio Future's Cut Content and Ideas That Didn’t Make It In
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
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Jet Set Radio Future is a game I will always hold dearly, but I've always felt like there was something missing in this game. And there is, tons actually. Jet Set Radio Future was released in a rather unfinished state where while it was game you could complete fully, there were tons of things that didn't get the right amount of time to be fleshed out. Whether it'd be gameplay ideas or story ideas, whatever happened in this game's development, affected the entire package.
Today, I'm going to be exploring the many cut content and ideas found in Jet Set Radio Future's files, and trying to theorycraft what is the true Jet Set Radio Future we will never be able to have.
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getting all the cut content in a full remake would be the best game of that year
That would be sick
I’d like Xbox make it real 😢
@@marcotrinidadjr3724 same
Or make Jet Set Radio Future backwards compatible on the newer Xbox consoles? I still have the combo disc with Sega GT 2002.
@@Jetsparx373 same. I would love that
I think rapid 99 and love shockers, and doom riders didn’t get enough screen time. I think they should have totally had more story to them
Oh trust me, I'm on the same boat as you. Lol.
Definitely
It never occurred to me to look up cut content for jet set radio despite it being my favorite game. This was a super interesting and well edited video! Before this I could say I've done pretty much everything in the game, but now I have a reason to revisit it again; playing the cut car boss fight.. should be a hell of a challenge to reach it! I've been craving JSRF content while waiting for Bomb Rush Cyberfunk to come out. Super excited that it seems to be retaining its release date this time for this summer.
As a massive of JSRF, this all blowing my mind!
This is one of many games that I would love to be decompiled, to push out draw disatances and detail past what emulation can do.
Emulation and modding are what keep this game alive right now.
So many things capable for this game right now
@@RisingSonic17 True. Decompilation would allow for even MORE of that type of cool stuff. Entire new levels, improved physics, multiplayer. That sort of thing. Just look at how well jak is doing with openGoal
I've never seen Dogenzaka Hill in sunset before
Loving this video so far, wanted to add a few things to the Chuo Car fight in Chapter 7 as since I uploaded the video with 3 frame perfect jumps a significantly easier method was found between another runner, Crabbi, and myself when we were messing about with a theoretical "True 100%" concept, which I think practically anyone could do if they were interested in checking out the fight for themselves (Goes without saying I guess but this is in chapter 7 only, after you meet clutch and before you enter FRZ)
Going through the double doors that teleport you up above the cables I use in the clip you can actually slowly turn right before you drop down onto the wires and stay on the platform/roof, from there a well timed boost jump to the right can get you on top of a big billboard sticking out in the terrain, which you can jump off of and around the buildings into the fight trigger.
It's a fun little oddity thats fun to be able to trigger like that, another fun tidbit is in the leaked prototype build (Which was around a month prior to release iirc) , the cop fight is there and the trigger is in bounds, suggesting it really was quickly cut and moved out of bounds, not sure if you cover the prototype in this video since I could only catch the first half, but theres alot of fun bits and pieces scattered about that build (Such as alternate graffiti spots, an alternate 99th flag race and weird quirks like shuffling not being usable), if that build is anything to go by, the JSRF we got is nothing short of a miracle to not only exist in the way it does but also exist fairly bug free (At the very least, its quite difficult to hit any of the really out there glitches without going out of your way to do so)
Yoooo, thank you so much for the easier method! That's actually really cool, I can actually try it out myself next time I play.
I actually initially wanted to talk about the beta, but I decided to scrap it and stick to what I can get from the files. But I said the same thing seeing the prototype build. The fact this game came out is a miracle.
You know, you was also the reason why I wanted to make this video since my friends shared your video of the car fight and it was first time seeing it. I was so in disbelief that I had talk about all the other things that didn’t make it in.
So thank you
Looking back years later it definitely felt like the game was shorter than it was suppose to be.
If only a remake was possible so we can see what it was suppose to really be like.
The game clocks in at 3 hours on average, the more you play it.
It is a VERY short game
I got curious and looked into the japanese release to see how they handle the dub. Professor K speaks english there too!
Since his voice was most likely one of the earliest recording sessions, it could explain why he has lines like the "Death Crash" one and why there are a lot of unused or "extra" lines.
The instances where the text boxes are in the final but unvoiced are super unfortunate though. :(
I love how you said you can carry on the characters that you beat in the first game to be on the new + plus game to play in the story but I also think there should be online to play with others and share graffiti with each other
The Half Health thing with the Immortals was likely done purely because of the fact you have to face them in another tag battle like IMMEDIATELY afterwards in Highway Zero. So it was likely just a case where they wanted to be nice and not force you to do 2 back-to-back Tag Battles with nothing of note in between.
And it's funny because the more I think about it. It was probably intentionally like that too because the plan was to lure you into a trap in the first place
a video on the leaked prototype builds content would be interesting, it's not a WHOLE lot but it's some significant things for sure
I initially was gonna bundle in the prototype into this video, but I decided against it since there wasn't anything too drastic compared to the final release
The best video regarding cut jsrf stuff rn honestly(although there wasn't any real competition aside the unused audio video? But still)
Also your theory thing regarding changes to the final chapters sounds rad
So the immortal Technique thing wasn't me just being crazy! Lol
The extra content I always thought was meant to be a thing you could do after beating the game but as you mentioned they're not there after that chapter. Kinda wish they would have shown up after you did the challenge to unlock them.
I totally missed the golden rhino sections on my recent playthrough.
Also I remember that custscene of The DJ being taken away actually playing when I played before I don't remember what triggered it but I DO remember that cutscene playing it looks very familiar.
When can we get a project JSRF? Hahahaha. Great video, man I just got through playing the first JSR and I want to play future again. I hope the new game lives up to it's predecessors.
Same here. I also remember the car battle.. Is it Mandela effect or memory issues, or even did my original disc have the cut content added? Pretty weird.
One thing they could've done with Clutch in Ch7 is maybe have it so instead of just randomly cycling between the maps, Clutch will go to set-in-stone spots on the map, but said spots will lead you RIGHT into each of the Golden Rhino encounters and right around where the Gang rematches are. The graffiti, rematches, and character challenges are still optional, but the game would still nudge you into doing them before moving on or something. And after catching up to Clutch for the last time, THAT'S when he returns the souls and you can head to the Fortified Residential area.
They really got short on time, it is basically the only explanation I have of why some lines that are just text but have an actual audio track inside the games files couldn't be put into the actual game.
This also explains some of the broken english in texts.
RIP sword Hayashi
Ay, a very enjoyable watch, thanks for covering one of my all time favorite games!
You do make an error though, in the regular release you do still have the opportunity to do the death ball team rematches, even if you miss them in chapter 7. I know this for a fact, as you can unlock Love Shockers (provided you collected the souls in CH4) and travel to Hikage to have a 4 Shock flag battle in the post game.
6:17-6:47 I always thought that the reason why you easily defeat the Immortals near the end of Chapter 4 is because they are trying to lure you to Highway Zero so that they can capture you.
Then when you get to Highway Zero and see that the Immortals have Yoyo, it becomes an actual fight of taggers tag.
That would make sense in the story context certainly, but in gameplay context it's so random
I played through that part today showing a family member gameplay and it surprised me even though I hadn't remembered it happened when I played on the og xbox, but it feels hella unfinished when you play not expecting it and it shows up.
Hopefully whenever they make a new Jet Set Radio Future gane, we get more chapters. I loved jet set radio future but wish it was more longer
I legit didnt know that there was a fully scripted game over cutscene for failing the Fortified Residencial Zone
Oh yeah of course. You just would never see it because it's impossible to fail in FRZ
@@RisingSonic17 lol yeah
As a kid I remember seeing it more than once and it wasn't due to curiosity I'll admit lol, but now as I'm replaying it again since my 360 backwards compatibility days, currently as of this comment, I can see how it was a clear skill issue with the lack of camera on the right stick or anything intuitive with color contrast with those damn ladders in FRZ.
10/10 game with nostalgia goggles on, but with the lack of NG+ and slightly clunky controls paired with the fairly objectively short main story it's still a solid 9.0/10
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this game really deserves a remake with all the cut content added in, JSRF is a great game, but it really didn't shine as bright as it could have
It will still remain my favourite game ever, until JSR3 becomes a reality
When I saw haishea's voice I was so surprised
I know I spelled haishea wrong idk how to spell it but the tired guy
Random Fact:
I have was completing all the graffiti post game. And the race against the Doom Riders event still triggers. I'm not sure about the others at the moment but this was very strange.
Love all your jsrf content! Great to see an old game i love being talked about ecen after its long release
The multiplayer would easily be fun as hell in modern online lobbies.
I just played some of Jet Set Radio Future, and the line with the goddess, and it had the dialogue, I am using the Europe version, but I am using an emulator, so someone might of put it in when I got it
That's actually interesting informations
If someone was able to implement that back in the game, then that might be possible for other cut dialogues 🤔
@@RisingSonic17 I might have just read it with his vice, and forgot, that potability just popped in my head
@@RisingSonic17 just replayed that part, he does not, sorry
Anyone remember looking up character unlocks and seeing a character named “Suga”? Unlocked via Chuo Street, jump off the Dino after collecting 32 cans? Would love to know where that rumor came from…. Kept resetting and trying that unlock for farrrr too long
Suga is Boogie in the English version.
Why not have sword Hayashi finaly track you down to your hq?
It probably wouldn’t happen because the Garage is the safe haven hideout and it's where all of your options are and such.
Yet clutch shows up and commits theft, so it wasn't totally out of the question in development possibly imo@@RisingSonic17
I think in my ideal JSRF I'd take out deathball entirely and also make prof dj k more neutral like JSR had, representing the streets, not the GGs.
This needs to be rereleased. A shame I can only play this on a emulator.
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Damn, sick to see all this insight! Future is still tied for my favourite game of all time with GTA IV!
Good choices 👍
i've seen the cut scene with DJ P.K for the train boss while playing
This honestly isn't that much in terms of cut content in a game.
In hindsight, yeah. Its not a whole lot of cut things.
Could honestly lean a bit more to the game's design kinda falling flat on itself with it's rush development.
Though I think some things that did go unused are interesting enough in the grand scheme of how the game ended up.
@@RisingSonic17 lol that's a big turnaround from the position you take in the video. Going from "it's amazing the game came out at all because of how much was cut" to "yeah not that much was cut". Also do we actually know the development was rushed, or is that just an assumption?
@nishi I know it sounds a little weird. I was trying to put things in hindsight to how much we lost compared to the final game, and most of it are voice lines while the others are things in the game that didn’t pan out as properly as they did with the time they had. Especially looking from the December 2001 prototype, it was close to what we got in the final release.
As for whether or not this game was guaranteed Rushed. We rarely get anything at all about the development of this game (and it probably will continue to be like that). But looking at the time frame of how much the game had after the Dreamcast died + how much was taken out and changed. And especially around that time where everyone had an ungodly crunch time to follow, I think you can say that Future was rushed in a couple of aspects.
@@RisingSonic17 I personally don't really agree with people defaulting to "rushed game" when games have some indication of the scope changing. A rushed game means the game is incomplete due to a lack of necessary development time. However, in this case the game just has parts that were removed. It's possible and not unlikely that the scope of the game simply was reduced and no longer included these cut pieces, and the final product at the time of release is all that the team wanted to include.
I guess to put it more succinctly, I think calling it rushed implies that the game was forced to release before it had reached the quality and standard the developers intended. Since we know nothing about what their intentions were, we can't say for certain it was rushed.
Treating assumptions as fact is a bad habit the games community has, so I tend to push back on it when it happens. This isn't a personal call out or anything, just to be clear. I appreciate you covering the stuff that is hidden within the game files, but I think the angle this video presents the info is presumptive at best and misleading at worst.
@nishi no no, it's a fair assessment and you're right.
Only makes me wish that we actually knew what happened with this game and I stated a lot that we will never really know what will happen.
But you're right on saying that I shouldn't presume Future was rushed due to how much was left out because we really don't got the true answer
I didn't even know it wasn't finished 0- 0 huh... so it just gets better
Will we see a follow up to this regarding cut content in the Dreamcast game?
I definitely recommend this video from my boy FalseProof when it comes to cut content and overall development of the OG game.
Certainly does a better job at it than I. You won't be disappointed
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@@RisingSonic17 Cool, I am familiar with FalseProof. And I think I saw the video before. Eh, I'll still check out. Happy to be part of the JSR/JSRF community. Jet Set Radio and Future reminded me what real music was and made me realize mainstream music these days is awful.
hey man, just randomly got this video in my recommended and wanted to say that it was great! have you heard about the spiritual successor to JSRF cyberfunk bombrush? (since sega won't even acknowledge the fandom) I'm sure ever JSRF fan has heard about it, anyways just wanted to know your thoughts.
I wasn't excited for it at first, but after seeing the latest trailer and now the game having a release date. I'm excited for it now, lol.
good shit, keep it up
It is a masterpiece
Song at 12:50? Please anyone ??
The dialogue subtitle and the voice lines, especially for DJ Professor K, were totally out of sync, the programming seems pretty off, I just hope they don't do the same dumb mistake with the new game.
I think the unused voice lines were edited into video of the final release, that's why they're out of sync
Someone clip the last bit and send it to Sega or whatever. Thanks x
I don't think I ever played the car part back then when I first had the game lol. Also, I think you should definitely do a video like this for Bomb Rush Cyberfunk because it suffered the same fate and the story itself is a bit disorientated. It seems like they didn't want to delay the game once again, but I think they should have because I don't like seeing things left out in games. 😕
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I only got to chapter 4
In my opinion, the biggest mistake they made in this game is making us rescue Yo Yo. I hate that annoying pissant!
Good to know I wasn't crazy remembering having to fight car on my first play through and never seeing it again in later play throughs
Yeah its not easy to trigger