Post Office: Former executive accused of lying to inquiry

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  • Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
  • The inquiry into the Horizon IT scandal has heard that the Post Office's first reaction to the suicide of a subpostmaster it accused of stealing was to hire a media lawyer to protect its reputation.
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    It came as former top executive Angela van den Bogerd tested the patience of the inquiry's barristers. One branded her evidence "word soup". Another accused her of lying throughout her two days of testimony.
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  • @markroyds23
    @markroyds23 14 днів тому +452

    She's evil. A far more ruthless criminal than most of the people already behind bars.

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 14 днів тому +22

      Vicious

    • @s.j.bluewater908
      @s.j.bluewater908 14 днів тому +1

      She is foul mouthed. Utterly disgusting

    • @monteceitomoocher
      @monteceitomoocher 14 днів тому +23

      Agree, the very worst criminals are to be found wearing business attire.

    • @david-pb4bi
      @david-pb4bi 13 днів тому +6

      I would sooner be in jail with Fred West than her.

    • @ricyman5110
      @ricyman5110 13 днів тому +2

      Proisrael said in front of media cameras: "We are afraid and feel unsafe about this demonstration😢". but they stood watching at a close distance and even broke through the pro-Palestinian demonstration😂😂😂😂😂😂n

  • @nobbyclarke9298
    @nobbyclarke9298 14 днів тому +394

    Disgraceful woman absolutely no remorse……

    • @leroysimon5692
      @leroysimon5692 14 днів тому +6

      👍🏾

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 14 днів тому

      D bitterness is so ugly in her

    • @s.j.bluewater908
      @s.j.bluewater908 14 днів тому +13

      She’s making herself look repellent

    • @alanfinn77
      @alanfinn77 14 днів тому

      Sadly I do not think she cares how she looks does not appear to have any shame in their role in destroying peoples lives @@s.j.bluewater908

    • @Perfidion
      @Perfidion 14 днів тому +11

      @@s.j.bluewater908 Nature's already done that, but she's definitely not helping herself.

  • @harrybbbb
    @harrybbbb 14 днів тому +349

    This vile woman is guilty of perjury. What is the law waiting for?

    • @ilokivi
      @ilokivi 14 днів тому +2

      @@jeremydunn932All are equal before the law.

    • @tonykirk1966
      @tonykirk1966 14 днів тому

      She & Paula Vennells are vile people! Hope they do not get away with this, but fear they will with this weak government & justice system.

    • @s.j.bluewater908
      @s.j.bluewater908 14 днів тому +3

      Jail is hers

    • @edmundlibanio6572
      @edmundlibanio6572 14 днів тому

      ​@@ilokiviReally? Don't hold your breath. They are purposely dragging it out in hopes of people dieing off and others just forgetting it all together.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 14 днів тому

      every one not giulty to die cant you tell.the tory are looking at this like covid and the dwp files .they wait long anough no one left to point it out only tory voters left .

  • @brendamuirhead483
    @brendamuirhead483 14 днів тому +221

    It’s a blessing and a miracle she remembered to turn up at the inquiry given her poor memory for everything else.

    • @Steve14ps
      @Steve14ps 14 днів тому +6

      lol

    • @AlexaJane9091
      @AlexaJane9091 14 днів тому +12

      Just waiting for the mental stress defence.

    • @Bob-tq2jv
      @Bob-tq2jv 14 днів тому +4

      100%

    • @donaldeaston9564
      @donaldeaston9564 14 днів тому

      So far, it’s only Alan Bates who can remember details. The execs are scum. I despised the lawyer, Rodric Williams who smirked, laughed, and deflected his whole way through his evidence. He will defo go. Utter contempt for the Sub Post staff.

    • @LeofromFreo
      @LeofromFreo 13 днів тому +5

      Like the shopkeeper said, if he can remember, why can’t all the “officials “ employed or engaged in their jobs? Shame on them.

  • @Evilroco
    @Evilroco 14 днів тому +246

    No surprises here ,she's been well rehearsed by her legal team and has no intention of revealing her culpability or admitting any guilt.

    • @srp01983
      @srp01983 14 днів тому +18

      But when the Inquiry is complete and the chairman publishes the report it will be damning. I am certain that the Inquiry team see exactly the same as you and I see - the lies, the blame-shifting, the deflection, but they have the paper trail that shows exactly the culture of denial and who is responsible. That will certainly result in prosecutions. I say this because the core participants,m those who ask questions at the end, are ruthless and frank in accusing these charlatans of lying, and openly blame them of perjury. They would not do that if they thought they were not on very safe ground.

    • @wendysimpson6395
      @wendysimpson6395 14 днів тому +9

      ​@@srp01983I wish I had you're faith.

    • @srp01983
      @srp01983 14 днів тому +2

      @@wendysimpson6395 I wouldn’t have said all that before Xmas, but since he airing of the ITV drama the mood of the public has changed. The judiciary and the police know it. The current government have done little apart from make some noises but since most of them are corrupt they won’t actually do anything. The next Labour government will definitely not let this rest though - Starmer is a lawyer who has done pro-bono work in the past, and are more likely to push what they know is the public interest.

    • @wendysimpson6395
      @wendysimpson6395 14 днів тому

      @@srp01983 🤞

    • @billsmith-hl8rk
      @billsmith-hl8rk 14 днів тому +9

      @@srp01983 Sir Wyn did not seem convinced by her evidence.

  • @michaelkavanagh5947
    @michaelkavanagh5947 14 днів тому +252

    Jail her.

    • @lenglab5390
      @lenglab5390 14 днів тому +1

      Jail is to good for her.

  • @ChrisM541
    @ChrisM541 14 днів тому +220

    What a thoroughly evil creature.

  • @lokischildren7862
    @lokischildren7862 14 днів тому +201

    She's belongs in prison

    • @normangale3159
      @normangale3159 14 днів тому +7

      That is exactly what she hopes by her lies and deceptions that she can stay out of jail

    • @stealth1803
      @stealth1803 13 днів тому +5

      @@normangale3159 she wont serve a day in prison corporate crimes are never punished in that way. The company will end up paying some money prison is only for working class

    • @Petrolhead66
      @Petrolhead66 11 днів тому

      Prison, more tax payers money. I can think of better things to so with her

  • @terenceregan2433
    @terenceregan2433 14 днів тому +166

    Rest in Peace, Martin Griffith.

    • @leroysimon5692
      @leroysimon5692 14 днів тому +2

      👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 14 днів тому +1

      😔😔

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 14 днів тому +5

      .p.o. 1 st actions one of them was to make his wife sign a NDA to get a pittence of what she deserved .they worked on that women untill she caved in .and did it on a lie no one from p.o, was allowed to talk to her .as agreed by allen and the group.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 12 днів тому

      the partyline was to scare his wife into accepting pittence for a nda .through fear of getting nothing at all if she spoke.a women who seen every thing taken from her to boost the desires of paula vennals who must of known a sunak who funding her court cases had conflict of interest in the company.

  • @MR-gl9xu
    @MR-gl9xu 14 днів тому +97

    If she and Vennells isn’t ultimately jailed it means the law and justice are completely corrupted!!!

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 14 днів тому

      was before this already .this just shows us what we already new the courts are not falible and niether is the .P.O. and the tory behind her.

    • @johnenglish929
      @johnenglish929 14 днів тому +7

      Law and justice are two different things, unfortunately.

    • @rogerroger5255
      @rogerroger5255 14 днів тому

      @@andydudley1775 More to do with Labour , as you know.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 13 днів тому

      @@rogerroger5255 do i know !

    • @user-sj4nh5ku2p
      @user-sj4nh5ku2p 12 днів тому +1

      She will be jailed surely. However if she isn’t she will be a social pariah the rest of her life . Hopefully that will be eat away at her but she seems totally devoid of feelings so maybe not. Dreadful woman !!

  • @CatholicSatan
    @CatholicSatan 14 днів тому +151

    A very slippery woman who, apparently, "only wanted to get at the truth". Even Jason Beer, no doubt exasperated by her deflection and poor recall, at one point asked her, "So what _was_ your job?"

  • @user-sp5bz2uq8b
    @user-sp5bz2uq8b 14 днів тому +87

    Vennels must be trembling in her cycling shoes knowing what she faces shortly. Jail them all!

    • @benwilson6145
      @benwilson6145 14 днів тому +4

      Still the he Reverend Venal C of E .

    • @mareksquare
      @mareksquare 14 днів тому

      And now!!!!

    • @debibuxton1335
      @debibuxton1335 14 днів тому

      Bet her priestly collar is feeling a bit tight about now

    • @philhart4849
      @philhart4849 14 днів тому +11

      I disagree that Vennells is trembling in her cycling shoes. Psychopaths always hold themselves guiltless.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 14 днів тому +2

      she got her gods to protect her the tory party.they done a real good job for 20 years .

  • @wendysimpson6395
    @wendysimpson6395 14 днів тому +76

    Her lie 'it didn't register with me' was so callous. Her whole demeanour chilled me.

    • @1966Depeche
      @1966Depeche 14 днів тому +6

      She was only interested in taking vast wads of cash from the Sub-postmasters cash registers !!!

    • @theobserver2309
      @theobserver2309 14 днів тому +9

      Wendy, you felt chills because you were watching a psychopath in action. She is a typical psychopath in a suit. Normal people automatically recoil from them.

    • @fatwalletboy2
      @fatwalletboy2 14 днів тому +2

      Shes good at word play isnt she.....another one is that "she didnt spot the disconnect"....all corporate bs speak without just saying yes or no

    • @yiabwstetienne7474
      @yiabwstetienne7474 14 днів тому

      She is a classic Sociopath, cold, scheming, devoid of empathy for anyone, save herself.

    • @gaycha6589
      @gaycha6589 12 днів тому

      Tip Corporate Exec…..

  • @muirislandjim453
    @muirislandjim453 14 днів тому +58

    Middle management in Britain is absolutely full of these people

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому +1

      When you reach middle management you will understand why these people are like this.

    • @muirislandjim453
      @muirislandjim453 14 днів тому +7

      @jjefferyworboys8138 You literally have no idea who I am or what I do, which in this case, is absolutely hilarious.

    • @philipallan8885
      @philipallan8885 10 днів тому +2

      You are spot on. I've been saying this for some years now.

    • @sphughes01
      @sphughes01 10 днів тому +2

      Totally agree and I have seen it time and time again in schools. Stories made up to get rid of staff mostly teachers but not only teachers. Usually those that are highly experienced, union members and not willing to toe the party line.

  • @cndns2
    @cndns2 14 днів тому +49

    Watching the appalling lies from these heinous people demonstrates the Post Office was/is rotten to the core.

  • @fatbelly27
    @fatbelly27 14 днів тому +107

    First question outside the inquiry: Are you going to remember more today?

    • @Hartley_Hare
      @Hartley_Hare 14 днів тому +10

      She needs to be up before a court, facing a lengthy sentence.

    • @CaminoAir
      @CaminoAir 14 днів тому +4

      That kind of questioning by a journalist always makes me uncomfortable. There has been a trend for about 30 years now to put the journalist center stage and to be provocative in news reporting. What is the point of asking a question like that when the person being questioned is not going to respond (except with a prepared generic statement). It's 'sound bite' journalism, instead of factual reporting.

    • @srp01983
      @srp01983 14 днів тому +10

      @@Karlos.xx.travels Plus it lets her know that everyone has seen through the tissue of lies. She has spent her life in an office spouting corporate bullpoop and bullying people, now she’s learning what people really think of her.

    • @Denali1600
      @Denali1600 14 днів тому +7

      @@CaminoAir I get where you're coming from and I can think of other examples where i'd agree re journalists. But the main takeaway from the previous day here had been her inability to recall events, emails she'd received, briefings she'd given, etc - so asking a question pertaining to her memory was a fairly neat way to summarise to the viewer that the issue with this witness is her inability to recall events / information / facts.

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 14 днів тому +10

      Angela,can you remember your way back home?

  • @bernardgooch4308
    @bernardgooch4308 14 днів тому +47

    No sign of any emotion, no regret or admission of any fault and quick to push the blame onto others. Took a bonus every year while innocent's went to jail or took their own life's in total desperation while she looked on. Lied to sub postmasters lied to JFSPM lied to mp,s lied to justice Frasier in court. Stripe her of all her bonuses from the time she knew about remote excess 2011 and Lock her up and throw away the keys. Horrid woman.

    • @theobserver2309
      @theobserver2309 14 днів тому +5

      Yes, a typical psychopath in a suit.

    • @yiabwstetienne7474
      @yiabwstetienne7474 14 днів тому +1

      Classic Sociopath traits.

    • @roswilliams2899
      @roswilliams2899 12 днів тому +1

      All her bonuses must be returned and most of her salary as well. Clearly she didn't do anything in the way of work, just sat around in an office ignoring all documents put in front of her, made no effort to check on whether Horizon was robust, made no effort to check what Fujitsu were doing. Beats me why she was employed as she apparently had no proper job, did no work, understood nothing, ignored everything that happdened, going on her answers at the enquiry.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 12 днів тому

      i did seem emotion the pure anger of having to answer questions .rishi should of given them more help and hired hitmen for her.

  • @Mike-dk2qb
    @Mike-dk2qb 14 днів тому +46

    Only one thing to do with her…. Send her to jail.

  • @seanhaywood4597
    @seanhaywood4597 14 днів тому +39

    its hard to discribe this woman without swearing, she shows no empathy at all to all the
    victims lives she has helped distroy, freeze all of her assetts now, bank account, pensions
    and any property she owns and use it towards compensating those that she has wronged,
    then put her in front of a judge and jury, and when found guilty the judge should lock her up
    for the maximum amount of time he can, shes lied to judges allready so any judge worth
    their salt should make a example of her and everyone else involved.

  • @ianhjan
    @ianhjan 14 днів тому +11

    I am 68 and I remember falling out of my highchair, my first day a school, getting my tonsils out, my first date, my first car. and the name of my Mum & Dads budgie! Is there a reason why one after another the people called to this enquiry from the Post Office don't recall anything significant in their past?

    • @roswilliams2899
      @roswilliams2899 12 днів тому +2

      It means none of them is employable as either they have Alzheimers or they are liars. But I bet all who don't end up in jail will go on to well paid top jobs and do them as badly as they have done their earlier jobs. Cronyism is rife in this country

  • @glenhammond1537
    @glenhammond1537 14 днів тому +57

    Criminal prosecutions are needed

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 14 днів тому

      👍👏👏

    • @AlexaJane9091
      @AlexaJane9091 14 днів тому +2

      And payback of bonuses.

    • @andydudley1775
      @andydudley1775 14 днів тому

      Criminal prosecutions was given out to the right people the p.o. and the tory needed to be jailed .this is why we are here.900 of them sub post master broke bad acording to the courts .and the media went into over time to brand innacent people on repeat ,trying to get the public on the side of yet another tory lie.

  • @errolbaptiste
    @errolbaptiste 14 днів тому +64

    Criminal cover up.

    • @adriancoppin977
      @adriancoppin977 14 днів тому

      ..and no doubt the govt is fully supportive of the cover up and F*** the victims!

  • @user-ro8dw8ms9n
    @user-ro8dw8ms9n 14 днів тому +21

    It’s rare to witness someone who exudes such an aura of contempt and evil ….God help all those postmasters and their families , they deserve massive compensation

  • @harryhill-es5jk
    @harryhill-es5jk 14 днів тому +42

    We need police investigation put her. in front of a court and let her tell her lies to a judge

    • @iainstewart4816
      @iainstewart4816 9 днів тому +1

      a high court judge has already called her a liar, not in so many words but he's said it

  • @martinpower2439
    @martinpower2439 14 днів тому +42

    Why is this a inquiry and not a trial?

    • @ftumschk
      @ftumschk 14 днів тому +12

      The Inquiry was launched more than two years ago, and will conclude this Autumn. Any trial(s) will be separate matters, no doubt greatly helped by the recommendations/findings from the Inquiry. The police are already investigating certain individuals, and any legal proceedings will no doubt be instigated by them in due course.

    • @AlexaJane9091
      @AlexaJane9091 14 днів тому +3

      ​@@ftumschkI hope they all face true justice or the justice they meted out to the poor sub-postmasters at the very least.

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 11 днів тому +1

      Because they have different objectives.
      The purpose of the inquiry is to investigate and find out what happened.
      A criminal trial is testing people's behaviour against criminal law.
      Two very different things.
      In theory it is possible that as evidence is revealed in the inquiry, that it may be discovered criminal offences have been committed which could be prosecuted later. Then criminal trials may result.
      But you can't prosecute unless you have evidence. If you do that, the court case will collapse and be a complete waste of tax payers' money.

    • @iainstewart4816
      @iainstewart4816 9 днів тому +1

      this is a statutory inquiry and it does not have full prosecutorial powers, however since evidence is given under oath, if, in the findings, the head of the inquiry feels that perjury has been committed then criminal charges will follow, from the way things are going quite a lot of people will be imprisoned, and if evidence is related to any prosecutions any recommendation as to criminal charges will be acted upon

  • @bitsnz1837
    @bitsnz1837 14 днів тому +21

    The very definition of institutionalised corporate corruption...

  • @peternewman3487
    @peternewman3487 14 днів тому +32

    Her face gives herself away.

    • @georgejohnson7591
      @georgejohnson7591 14 днів тому

      Her face looks like its had the makeup applied by a cricket bat.

  • @gherkamum
    @gherkamum 14 днів тому +23

    They knew it was all wrong but did nothing, Fake apologies, still no empathy or shame…..They all look guilty…..All covering their own backs….Prison.

  • @edwardjones4870
    @edwardjones4870 14 днів тому +43

    As one who visits the U.K. on a regular basis, I’ve always believed that fair play is a fundamental part of the British character. After watching “Mr. Bates vs the Post Office” and the ongoing hearings, I am stunned that such a terrible wrong could occur. Lame and insincere apologies mean nothing. There must be justice and accountability.

    • @mareksquare
      @mareksquare 14 днів тому

      Ja mieszkam teraz w UK i boję się że mnie może kiedyś coś takiego spotkać
      To nie sprawiedliwość
      To prawo bogatych przeciw biednym i bezbronnym !!!
      Zlodzieje mają kasę na prawników i się śmieją
      Jestem bardzo zawiedziony

    • @fiachramaccana280
      @fiachramaccana280 14 днів тому

      That was clearly your mistake LOL.... very far from.

  • @alw9935
    @alw9935 14 днів тому +30

    Terrible human being

  • @MacAJ1874
    @MacAJ1874 14 днів тому +32

    An Evil woman

  • @dismalfist
    @dismalfist 14 днів тому +26

    Was a very interesting hearing. At one point she wholly contradicted one of her own emails when it was right up on the screen and the entire room was reading it (as well as, hopefully, police and future lawyers of the innocent SPMs who will be able to begin EXTREMELY expensive prosecutions soon.)
    Quite curious to see someone who's existed in an entire professional career so utterly cornered, yet cannot quite cope with reality and believes EVEN NOW that lying and evasion and business-speak will save her from a well-deserved financial ruin when she's prosecuted over and over and over and over again by the families of the dead and ruined SPMs she's wilfully had a hand in prosecuting. Oh well, she can exist in denial all the way to that final bankruptcy hearing before she goes to jail. We don't need her denial, we have EVIDENCE.
    Tick tock Angela...

  • @GraemeRoberts
    @GraemeRoberts 14 днів тому +19

    I've watched a few live sessions with Jason Beer asking the questions and he's been brilliant. Slowly, calmly and methodically picking apart the Post Office people's inconsistencies and weak excuses.

  • @glenhammond1537
    @glenhammond1537 14 днів тому +73

    She’s not believable

  • @gr00v1nburg3
    @gr00v1nburg3 14 днів тому +66

    Ignorance isnt a defence

    • @deang5622
      @deang5622 11 днів тому

      I am afraid it is.
      Not in a criminal court it isn't, as you are expected to know what laws apply to you.
      Here, this is not a criminal trial, it is a statutory enquiry. In this type of enquiry, witnesses are sworn in under oath so if they lie they can be charged with perjury.
      If they refuse to cooperate they can be fined or imprisoned.
      But fundamentally, in this type of proceedings, the inquiry is not testing these people and their behaviours against criminal law. That's the purpose of a criminal court, not an inquiry.

  • @MRJERRYCURTIN
    @MRJERRYCURTIN 14 днів тому +24

    Her legal team done a great job but despite that came across as1 nasty peice of work devoid of any remorse

  • @maxxrenn
    @maxxrenn 14 днів тому +26

    Go directly to jail. Do not pass go.

  • @kevinwilliams1768
    @kevinwilliams1768 14 днів тому +19

    she should be in jail . She look cold & uncaring .

    • @sphughes01
      @sphughes01 10 днів тому

      Totally agree but being cold and uncaring is not a crime. However, she has broken the criminal law by lying under oath and therefore guilty of perjury. Life would be justice!

  • @Victoria-dk3nv
    @Victoria-dk3nv 14 днів тому +35

    This individual makes me sick. No ethics or principles. Could not tell the truth if she tried. She needs to receive a hefty prison sentence. Please let justice prevail!!!

  • @davidbailey6262
    @davidbailey6262 14 днів тому +9

    She has clearly been told not to incriminate herself, you will get the same from Paula when she comes to the inquiry, they both are fully aware of what will be coming their way after this inquiry.

  • @peterwright9546
    @peterwright9546 14 днів тому +22

    Make a good MP when the lips are moving you can see the lies flowing out.

  • @MrSmriley
    @MrSmriley 14 днів тому +21

    She should be in prison, and for a long long time.

  • @georgeclarke163
    @georgeclarke163 14 днів тому +10

    A very difficult day of questioning to watch.
    Jason Beers was obviously having to control his emotions when questioning this awful woman.
    Hopefully when the disgusting Paula Vennells dragged before the inquiry then Jason Beers will just tear her apart.

  • @wearamaskdavis2285
    @wearamaskdavis2285 14 днів тому +20

    Nothing than plain evil. And if seems that she is still being prompted by her evil legal team.

  • @andym.6141
    @andym.6141 14 днів тому +51

    Van den Bogerd has a lawyer present at the inquiry, who’s paying for that?

    • @noelfleming3567
      @noelfleming3567 14 днів тому +1

      🤔🤔🤔

    • @lightscameraactionletstryt5132
      @lightscameraactionletstryt5132 14 днів тому +6

      A six figure salary will help!

    • @jamesbowskill362
      @jamesbowskill362 14 днів тому +7

      Ermmmmmm .........the cost comes out of the £100MILLION of OUR taxpayers money given to the PO by the tories !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! to 'PROTECT THE BRAND', ....That is after all what this trial is all about, 'PROTECTING THE PO BRAND' at all costs !

    • @markbyrne61
      @markbyrne61 13 днів тому

      Not that Slag that’s for sure

  • @jimmywrangles
    @jimmywrangles 14 днів тому +32

    Disgusting, I cannot understand why she's not in jail.

  • @MrKeyhole1
    @MrKeyhole1 14 днів тому +10

    Despicable woman. Not an utter sign of remorse. No admittance of wrongdoing. If the police do not look into this then there is no justice, for anyone.

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому +2

      The police probably will investigate, however that is no guarantee of a prosecution.

  • @DigitalPerspectivesUK
    @DigitalPerspectivesUK 14 днів тому +38

    Judge Peter Fraser criticised Van De Bogherd her testimony and said she "did not give me frank evidence, and sought to obfuscate matters, and mislead me".
    Beer KC, lead counsel to the inquiry, challenged Ms van den Bogerd's opening statement, as he accused her of not saying sorry for her own role in the scandal…

  • @malcolmwright1250
    @malcolmwright1250 14 днів тому +10

    Where is the money the Post Office has taken Fraudulently. Give it back now.

    • @paulbanks9408
      @paulbanks9408 14 днів тому +4

      Lost in system but paid out in bonuses probably.

    • @Haberdashery22
      @Haberdashery22 12 днів тому

      Money made its way into their bonuses.

  • @gwh3013
    @gwh3013 14 днів тому +13

    There's no emotion, no remorse.

    • @philhart4849
      @philhart4849 14 днів тому +3

      Psychopaths are incapable of feeling remorse.

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому

      @@philhart4849 You mean sociopaths, I know Im one.

  • @Musicmyvideo
    @Musicmyvideo 14 днів тому +16

    Cold. Evil. Criminal.

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому

      The third has yet to be proven and sadly probably won't be.

  • @southerncomfortuk
    @southerncomfortuk 14 днів тому +7

    Those poor people and what they went through, just appalling. It’s clear for all to see what actually happened.
    All the more unbelievable that those responsible can’t accept that what they did was wrong.

  • @AlexaJane9091
    @AlexaJane9091 14 днів тому +6

    Katherine Kelly Lang played her brilliantly in the ITV drama, although her portrayal was way too soft. This is a hardened, unethical, despicable woman.

  • @125ZJK
    @125ZJK 14 днів тому +16

    I do hope those nice people in that Oxfordshire Village beg that Family's forgiveness ! :D

  • @anthonyseye
    @anthonyseye 14 днів тому +18

    I find the reaction of some in the local "communities" almost as chilling as the attitude of the Post Office.

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 14 днів тому +4

      It would be interesting to see them step forward and justify what made them so certain at the time of the Post Masters guilt.

  • @ncooper8438
    @ncooper8438 14 днів тому +4

    I listened to her for a few minutes yesterday and all I could hear was waffle. She's spent her working life denying and deflecting and being economical with truth that when straight talking is needed she doesn't know how.

  • @JohnReesPhotography
    @JohnReesPhotography 14 днів тому +7

    Jail is too good for Mrs V D B and many of the other Post Office Ltd. officials.
    There’s a far too common theme with most of these POL officials when being questioned regarding incriminating details, “they can’t remember”. Or, when they are presented with an email that they received from years ago showing that they knew only too well what was going on, they happened not to have read the said email or didn’t take on board the emails content.
    Again, jail is too good for many of the other Post Office Ltd. officials

  • @colinbrown1321
    @colinbrown1321 14 днів тому +6

    If you listen to her evidence she was responsible for nothing, however if you read her LinkedIn profile she was responsible for almost everything including post office contracts

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому

      Everyone likes to make themselves sound important even if they aren't.

  • @MartynHarris-gb1gg
    @MartynHarris-gb1gg 14 днів тому +7

    By her own admission she was negligently incompetent, in that she failed to engage with the truth. Electing to be morally and ethically bankrupt by being part of the mechanism of vindictive falsehoods, and cover up to put the PO reputation above that of the truth.
    To add to her negligence and vindictive actions, she repugnantly and knowingly signing a statement of truth that she knew was far from the truth, with far and reaching consequences to the victimes.
    THAT IS PERGURY, an AFRONT TO COURT, and FRAUD FOR GAIN.

  • @chrislambert9435
    @chrislambert9435 14 днів тому +6

    “We know they are lying, they know they are lying, they know we know they are lying, we know they know we know they are lying, but they are still lying.” - Attributed to Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn

  • @kidneystone53
    @kidneystone53 14 днів тому +10

    Selective amnesia

  • @gabrielchuen
    @gabrielchuen 14 днів тому +4

    Through out the inquiry she presented that she was trying so hard to help the sub-postmasters. All she was doing was in her word get to the bottom of the issues. But the evidences show that her so call help helped no one and destroyed lives instead. Her words are blatant lies. Yet she is not prosecuted. What kind of justice is this? She also conveniently forget things she was responsible for and remember very detailedly it was always other PO executives’ wrongdoing. Nothing to do with her.

  • @davidjewood
    @davidjewood 14 днів тому +10

    She knows the game’s up

    • @georgejohnson7591
      @georgejohnson7591 14 днів тому +2

      And yet still she lies!

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому +1

      She hasn't been charged with anything criminal, just some uncomfortable questions.

    • @Perfidion
      @Perfidion 14 днів тому +1

      @@georgejohnson7591 She was all about damage control when the scandal was in full flight, and she's all about damage control now. Deny, deflect, dissemble... it's all she knows.

    • @georgejohnson7591
      @georgejohnson7591 14 днів тому

      @@jjefferyworboys8138 Yet!

  • @Bob-tq2jv
    @Bob-tq2jv 14 днів тому +5

    They have all been legally advised to take the default position of complete incompetence by the looks of things. Disgraceful bunch

  • @stevetee4145
    @stevetee4145 14 днів тому +10

    Like a child that has been caught out!

    • @TheGizby
      @TheGizby 14 днів тому +5

      Totally. By the 2nd day AM her tone is exactly like that of a child. Listen to the way she says "no". Like a 5 year old being told off. This woman should never have been appointed to her position and should never be allowed to work with people again after she does her time in prison.

  • @LeofromFreo
    @LeofromFreo 13 днів тому +3

    An utter National disgrace.

  • @MrGavinBoyd
    @MrGavinBoyd 14 днів тому +12

    Will any of those responsible go to prison?

    • @chasjm21
      @chasjm21 14 днів тому +2

      Tony Blair didn't.

    • @cadelepski5161
      @cadelepski5161 14 днів тому

      @@chasjm21 When did he work for the Post Office?

    • @howardosborne8647
      @howardosborne8647 14 днів тому

      I believe they will be held fully accountable in the legal; proceedings that will certainly follow this inquiry.

    • @jjefferyworboys8138
      @jjefferyworboys8138 14 днів тому

      @@howardosborne8647 Do you believe in Santa too ?

    • @chasjm21
      @chasjm21 14 днів тому

      @@cadelepski5161 Neither here nor there, it's about taking responsibility for what they have done to people.

  • @LouiseKnight-mw6pf
    @LouiseKnight-mw6pf 14 днів тому +3

    There is SO MUCH cruelty.

  • @keithtpc1508
    @keithtpc1508 14 днів тому +4

    These bastards had better go to jail for life for Corporate manslaughter or there will be uproar in this Country.

    • @Haberdashery22
      @Haberdashery22 12 днів тому

      I'll be right at the front!
      But what front? What can I do to effect that? What can we all do? Public pressure is powerful but where do we all go to do it? All I've done is sign the petition and the five friends I texted also signed it. But we all want to do more. How, though?

  • @helmutreichart9081
    @helmutreichart9081 14 днів тому +5

    How can she sleep at night!

  • @timduck8506
    @timduck8506 14 днів тому +5

    See no proof, hear no proof,deny everything and if doubt sorry I can't remember that?

  • @robertfitzjohn4755
    @robertfitzjohn4755 14 днів тому +4

    Watching and waiting for the full story to come out...
    Don't hold your breath, mate.

  • @DigitalPerspectivesUK
    @DigitalPerspectivesUK 14 днів тому +6

    The actions and motives were to save money and for personal gain in the way of significant benefits & bonus pay outs!!! Not to protect the brand.., it was to protect shareholders and save the business from going bankrupt!!

  • @maryminty5876
    @maryminty5876 14 днів тому +3

    this person hold her head up in public ever again. The most shameful act was that she was able to accept her bonus for her despicable actions. Unbelievable, unthinkable, and please God unrepeatable ever.

  • @ChangesOneTim
    @ChangesOneTim 13 днів тому +2

    The KCs as ever were spot on. The truth will out😊

  • @arlenreinstein9907
    @arlenreinstein9907 14 днів тому +6

    An evil machine requires a plenitude of banal, efficient, loyal , soulless cogs

  • @Nunn_the_wiser
    @Nunn_the_wiser 14 днів тому +13

    A callous calculating woman at the center of this scandal. The time in the enquiry today is a perfect example of a narcissist. Sharp as a knife...Zero emotion, zero empathy.

  • @davidwiltshire6188
    @davidwiltshire6188 14 днів тому +3

    Pure evil, she has been part of destroying so many peoples life.

  • @virtualunreality8326
    @virtualunreality8326 12 днів тому +3

    Brilliant comment from the reporter "are you going to remember more for us today?"

  • @keegan773
    @keegan773 13 днів тому +2

    The cheek of her, trying to give the impression that she was trying to get compensation to the families as soon as possible when every printed record shows that she was involved in the cover up and attempts to minimise the eventual costs of compensation to the Post Office

  • @lastdimestudios
    @lastdimestudios 14 днів тому +2

    Why didn’t the criminal justice system notice after 900 spm go to trial that this is not a strange trend?

  • @survivalcatchpole
    @survivalcatchpole 14 днів тому +3

    She should be sent to prison .

  • @v12ngt
    @v12ngt 12 днів тому +2

    She is currently working as an HR contractor employed to make 100 staff redundant at a company called Integral UK Ltd, she must be so proud of her contribution to society

  • @andrewrussell4707
    @andrewrussell4707 14 днів тому +4

    She should be in jail.
    If we lived in a country of ‘high moral standards’ she would not be allowed to walk the streets.
    Utterly corrupt.

  • @probro9898
    @probro9898 14 днів тому +3

    They should have played Peter Gabriel singing "I don't remember, I don't recall, I've got no memory of anything at all" at her when she came along.

  • @williamclifford4441
    @williamclifford4441 14 днів тому +2

    What did we expect? She was never going to reveal the truth of the matter for fear of being prosecuted.

  • @dovetonsturdee7033
    @dovetonsturdee7033 14 днів тому +2

    Anyone who thought that her performance on day one was poor should now view the absolute train wreck that was Angela's effort on the second day.

  • @DigitalPerspectivesUK
    @DigitalPerspectivesUK 14 днів тому +10

    Gareth Jenkins, chief IT architect at Fuj is one of only two people involved in the POscandal facing possible legal consequences, as the Met Police investigate him for potential perjury.21 Mar 2024
    The technology expert who built the faulty Horizon IT system is understood to want immunity before appearing at a public inquiry. Gareth Jenkins, 69, previously gave evidence saying the Fujitsu system was 'not corrupt'

  • @Arya-cf7vu
    @Arya-cf7vu 14 днів тому +7

    Go to jail angie

  • @Keithlfpieterse
    @Keithlfpieterse 14 днів тому +5

    The term "word soup" is a EUPHEMISM par excellence! Nuff said.

  • @mariewalmsley6143
    @mariewalmsley6143 14 днів тому +4

    Sorry she's exposed for her lies not for the victims.

  • @peternorman2563
    @peternorman2563 13 днів тому +3

    You can see she is as hard as nails ! Not a very nice person to be in an executive position in the PO. A jail term and loss of pension sounds about right !

  • @veritas5008
    @veritas5008 13 днів тому +1

    She needs to spend time behind bars, hopefully that would allow her to reflect and recall the suffering she has imposed.

  • @bondjamesbond9041
    @bondjamesbond9041 14 днів тому +3

    God bless Vipin Patel and all those innocent people affected by this horrendous scandal. The execs at the Post Office are vile people.

  • @r2drone227
    @r2drone227 14 днів тому +2

    Very selective memory! Full of lies, miss truths and denial. If she was a senior manager and missed emails then she didn’t deserve to be a senior manager! She’s covering her back to avoid possible future criminal charges!

  • @cameronfateweaver2206
    @cameronfateweaver2206 14 днів тому +2

    I cannot believe people in Vipin's Oxfordshire village would set up a cross with his name on it - that's callous, cruel, and shameful.

    • @georgejohnson7591
      @georgejohnson7591 14 днів тому +1

      They should be deeply embarrassed and ashamed of themselves.

  • @colincourageous699
    @colincourageous699 12 днів тому +2

    She is 1of many that need to go to jail.

  • @deborahgraves5430
    @deborahgraves5430 14 днів тому +2

    She was dishonest then and she is dishonest now. My heart goes out to all those families over the many years who have suffered as a result of her legacy. I hope there is a conviction in her case.

  • @doraldeddy1836
    @doraldeddy1836 12 днів тому +1

    She, along with a whole host of others, need to be in front of a judge and jury, as soon as possible! Their behaviour is beyond appalling.

  • @666philipfry
    @666philipfry 14 днів тому +2

    Fujitsu runs the software and computers in many civil service departments (including HMRC), courts services and police services. They are well protected by senior officials who are desperate to cover up widespread systemic failures.