Post Office's former most senior lawyer 'doesn't recall' meeting on convicted pregnant postmistress

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  • Опубліковано 22 кві 2024
  • Convicting pregnant postmistress hoped to curb ‘Horizon bashing’, the Post Office inquiry has heard.
    Seema Misra, a former sub-postmaster, was eight weeks pregnant when found guilty of false accounting and theft in 2010.
    An email from Jarnail Singh, a Post Office lawyer, referring to Ms Misra was shown to the inquiry on Tuesday. It said: “It is hoped the case will set a marker to dissuade other defendants from jumping on the Horizon bashing bandwagon.”
    Susan Crichton, the Post Office’s former most senior in-house lawyer, confirmed she received the email in Oct 2010, but claimed she didn’t remember any further discussions around the case.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 271

  • @johnsinclair4111
    @johnsinclair4111 Місяць тому +184

    Another liar. Lock her up.

    • @johngraham6181
      @johngraham6181 Місяць тому +5

      There are not enough spaces in Prison for this lot!

    • @russellingham2069
      @russellingham2069 Місяць тому +4

      As always another lier

    • @davidgrimmett9741
      @davidgrimmett9741 Місяць тому +4

      All these ex P O people seem to be suffering from amnesia!

    • @kesgraveklaxon5586
      @kesgraveklaxon5586 Місяць тому +1

      Its not her. Its IT. Lock IT up. Her is a person and this is a THING, see.

    • @cliffordbuttle4529
      @cliffordbuttle4529 Місяць тому +3

      These lawyers and the like all suffer from very poor memory loss it makes one wonder how they ever got a job in the first place 😮😮😮😮

  • @tenkloosterherman
    @tenkloosterherman Місяць тому +132

    How can anyone with such a terrible memory become a senior lawyer at a large company?

    • @tomsawyer4321
      @tomsawyer4321 Місяць тому +13

      That's how she became a senior lawyer, its a requirement

    • @susanbrown1090
      @susanbrown1090 Місяць тому +5

      Certainly at the Post Office!!!!!

    • @timporter9192
      @timporter9192 Місяць тому +4

      A skill set of most people in the legal profession

    • @Royboy50
      @Royboy50 Місяць тому +4

      That’s why there are hundreds of books in lawyers offices so they can read about previous cockups

    • @vrindersinghrandhawa6343
      @vrindersinghrandhawa6343 Місяць тому +1

      Its the perfect qualification

  • @Zoro007
    @Zoro007 Місяць тому +142

    I bet they all remembered to get their wages and pensions though...!!!!!.

  • @jamesglennie7911
    @jamesglennie7911 Місяць тому +157

    What a load of cowards afraid to take responsibility but will take the pensions etc

    • @Steve14ps
      @Steve14ps Місяць тому +7

      Yes. Why don't they all put their hands in the air and say "we were all wrong" and why do they not co-operate with the inquiry?

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 Місяць тому +1

      She got 4 million

    • @blue_jay31
      @blue_jay31 Місяць тому +1

      For sure , jail the hateful and lier !

    • @blue_jay31
      @blue_jay31 Місяць тому

      @@Steve14psBecause they are lying cowards !

    • @RaiderDave-xe1pn
      @RaiderDave-xe1pn Місяць тому

      @@Steve14ps For the very simple reason, if they admit fault it will make all of them criminally liable and they will lose their pensions and will most likely have to repay their golden handshakes when they left the Post Office, they would also be facing jailtime for, amongst other things, Perverting the Course of Justice and Giving False Evidence.
      IMO what they are hoping to do is to keep giving vague and short answers in the hope that the general public will lose interest and they will be able to get away with it when whoever the Home Secretary is when they get the final report from the inquiry, they will decide that there is no case to answer and they can all go on their merry way with their money intact.

  • @seanshearer2910
    @seanshearer2910 Місяць тому +120

    Lying through her teeth.

  • @colinpiper6269
    @colinpiper6269 Місяць тому +62

    I think everyone knows what "I dont recall" means when theyre under oath.

    • @rogernevin7461
      @rogernevin7461 Місяць тому +3

      Collective amnesia,very convenient !

    • @jamesgreen807
      @jamesgreen807 Місяць тому

      ​@@rogernevin7461selective........

  • @jimandali0
    @jimandali0 Місяць тому +57

    She choose to forgot that she had said “NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH”

    • @trevorclarey3336
      @trevorclarey3336 Місяць тому +5

      Nothing like the truth , she should of said.

  • @stevec6232
    @stevec6232 Місяць тому +83

    That amnesia returned i see...

    • @johnbradshaw7525
      @johnbradshaw7525 Місяць тому +10

      They all seem to have selective amnesia

    • @nannieg7622
      @nannieg7622 Місяць тому +1

      Yes, unbelievable isn’t it

    • @AlexaJane9091
      @AlexaJane9091 Місяць тому +1

      Didn't she watch Mr Bates vs.The Post Office? That'll remind her. Maybe it should be playing on a loop in the background.

  • @wtf1965
    @wtf1965 Місяць тому +65

    Utterly reprehensible!

  • @chrisbaxter4572
    @chrisbaxter4572 Місяць тому +23

    It makes my blood boil the more I hear of this case. Another one covering their arse!

  • @ianramage6692
    @ianramage6692 Місяць тому +19

    It’s amazing the amount of intelligent people suffering from convenient amnesia. People’s lives destroyed by their decisions but yet no recollection of the facts. Shameful and these people need to be prosecuted under the same laws they used to convict these innocent postmaster/postmistresses.

    • @rodmcintosh3149
      @rodmcintosh3149 Місяць тому +2

      All liars every one of them. Karma will have them behind bars

  • @robbie9030
    @robbie9030 Місяць тому +20

    Like all other PO management she can’t be trusted or believed.
    Look forward to her going to jail as well.

  • @pauli2169
    @pauli2169 Місяць тому +28

    A lost of PO employees suddenly have amnesia, must be all the sh*t in the rivers

  • @debbiestevens4382
    @debbiestevens4382 Місяць тому +39

    Once again, lots of, “ I don’t recall, I can’t remember”

    • @johnstirling6597
      @johnstirling6597 Місяць тому +2

      I pretty sure she recalled her bank account at the end of each pay cycle.

    • @rogertaylor6386
      @rogertaylor6386 Місяць тому

      Trained by Stergeon

  • @matthewwassall798
    @matthewwassall798 Місяць тому +13

    People who make a career of knowing everything.......know apparently nothing now! It's called "taking the piss" in my world.

  • @alanbowles1985
    @alanbowles1985 Місяць тому +9

    Part of the PO’s recruiting process was that applicants CV included selective memory loss.🙈

  • @timothybrockbank7474
    @timothybrockbank7474 Місяць тому +21

    Liars and lawyers there’s not much difference

  • @MrGavinBoyd
    @MrGavinBoyd Місяць тому +71

    Will any of those responsible go to prison?

    • @CYCHIATRIC
      @CYCHIATRIC Місяць тому

      no.

    • @pablohassan6897
      @pablohassan6897 Місяць тому +9

      Yes. Once this enquiry has concluded, the results will be used in prosecutions. We can also look forward to seeing the huge lawsuits to be filed on behalf of every sub postmaster that suffered thru this outright scam. These crooks will lose their houses, fat bank accounts, well, everything. As they should.

    • @marknaylor9394
      @marknaylor9394 Місяць тому +5

      @@pablohassan6897 maybe...let's hope

    • @pablohassan6897
      @pablohassan6897 Місяць тому +5

      @marknaylor9394 I've seen breif reports and discussion regarding that. I reckon I've heard a former prosecutor mention that lawsuits are currently in the making, again, as I mentioned up there, they need all this evidence from current enquiry to go to town on them. And we've certainly seen these dirty lawyers are lying through their teeth during this enquiry. All valuable evidence for, what imagine will be a huge class action suit.👍👍

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 Місяць тому

      No chance

  • @purangesmith9053
    @purangesmith9053 Місяць тому +11

    Amnesia seems to be contagious in the PO upper echelons.

  • @susanbrown1090
    @susanbrown1090 Місяць тому +7

    Cannot believe how many of these post office “top managers” have such bad memories 🤬🤬🤬

  • @BV-co7hy
    @BV-co7hy Місяць тому +26

    Corruption is very Transparent when mixed with Reality 😮

  • @petethorpe9716
    @petethorpe9716 Місяць тому +9

    Perhaps a prison break to give her time to reflect and remember.

  • @jc238
    @jc238 Місяць тому +10

    Have all these PO managers had their memories wiped? Maybe these memories will return when they get to criminal court. Disgusted by the lot of them.

  • @alunjones2550
    @alunjones2550 Місяць тому +10

    You'd remember an e-mail like that. Yet another blatant liar.......

  • @eastwest1362
    @eastwest1362 Місяць тому +29

    Patently another home counties social appointee swimmingly out of depth professionally and totally devoid of any resemblance of human compassion in attempting to right the obvious wrongs of an out of control dictatorship.
    «whatever, when’s the next bonus due ?»

    • @paulharris1502
      @paulharris1502 Місяць тому +3

      That's about the size of it.

    • @michaelmcginley7930
      @michaelmcginley7930 Місяць тому

      The correct description is sociopaths.wonder how their early years were.probably went to boarding school

  • @oilylampman7252
    @oilylampman7252 Місяць тому +8

    At the post office, lies are as common as air.

  • @bazzer621
    @bazzer621 Місяць тому +9

    It is a travesty of justice that these people are still walking around free!

  • @user-ux4km9uy8v
    @user-ux4km9uy8v Місяць тому +15

    it's sickening to think that all these barristers and lawyers will end up getting more money than the victims who deserve it, where were all of them when Alan Bates needed them.They are all great people now when they see all the money they can make out of it shame on them

  • @brightspark4817
    @brightspark4817 Місяць тому +19

    god all these lawyers are suffering from amnesia

  • @garybarnett2756
    @garybarnett2756 Місяць тому +35

    LIAR 😡😡

  • @petercorser902
    @petercorser902 Місяць тому +6

    These post off ice Lawyers have a lot to answer for, and most of them should go to jail.

  • @Blackhawk7117
    @Blackhawk7117 Місяць тому +10

    How do these people get into these positions?

    • @rogernevin7461
      @rogernevin7461 Місяць тому

      Lie like Japanese clocks, that's how ! They could lie straight on a corkscrew !

  • @Pit-Stoptraining
    @Pit-Stoptraining Місяць тому +16

    What is the point of an oath, selective amnesia. I would be more impressed if they told the truth. Saying look this is going to hurt people but yes these remarks were being bounded about, no one challenged or criticised at the time. It was wrong but everyone wanted to keep their jobs as it came from the top and this is what was said and done, I’m sorry.

  • @playsjazz2
    @playsjazz2 Місяць тому +5

    Sent a pregnant Mother to jail, now can't recall..? Shame, shame.., shame..😢

  • @gherkamum
    @gherkamum Місяць тому +10

    Lies and more lies......Prison

  • @billslater4531
    @billslater4531 Місяць тому +27

    None of them remember but but the post masters. Or just don’t want to

  • @SlapCabbage08
    @SlapCabbage08 Місяць тому +8

    The post office management are clearly staffed by goldfish. They all need contempt charges & THEIR pensions taken.

    • @rogernevin7461
      @rogernevin7461 Місяць тому

      Looks like conspiracy to commit mass fraud. The government's involvement in this shouldn't be overlooked either, they dished out the contracts to Fujitsu worth billions.

  • @angiebaby3942
    @angiebaby3942 Місяць тому +9

    Evil woman

  • @Knightley79
    @Knightley79 Місяць тому +3

    The pattern of all of these senior figures within the post office is a plea of utter ignorance and incompetence. I think there’s enough there for criminal negligence

  • @nannieg7622
    @nannieg7622 Місяць тому +3

    “I don’t recall “ ??? Unbelievable and under oath !

  • @troffmeister68
    @troffmeister68 Місяць тому +7

    liars the lot of them imho !

  • @hasbulla2012
    @hasbulla2012 Місяць тому +11

    Bull

  • @johngreen6191
    @johngreen6191 Місяць тому +10

    They don't remember the key moments of anything. Jason would have been much tougher and I bet she thanked her lucky stars too.

  • @malcsco
    @malcsco Місяць тому +5

    Are all post office management and lawyers related to Nicola (I can’t remember) sturgeon?.

  • @waynemoore9951
    @waynemoore9951 Місяць тому +12

    Do all these people from the post realize they are under oath!

  • @denisedavies5952
    @denisedavies5952 Місяць тому +4

    How long do we have to listen to these liars ? Just pay the innocent post masters & postmistress's their rightful compensation .

  • @mikeowen1192
    @mikeowen1192 Місяць тому +6

    Poor lady she obviously as dementia she can't remember any thing that implicates her let's see how she deals with sleeplessness all she cared about was losing respect from her colleagues because she couldn't do her job , it's time for revenge,

  • @Commentsmac
    @Commentsmac Місяць тому +1

    Never in my life have I ever said - or heard anyone say “I don’t recall”.

  • @jeanrees5885
    @jeanrees5885 Місяць тому +21

    Another lier

  • @ianstone3580
    @ianstone3580 Місяць тому +2

    Wake me up when someone responsible goes to prison. How come all senior figures have such bad memories?

  • @nickjanssens
    @nickjanssens Місяць тому +3

    People in responsible positions in any job of work, do not, repeat do not forget. She told the enquiry she didn’t recall,this is a blatant lie, worth repeating, a blantant deliberate lie.

  • @cobbler40
    @cobbler40 Місяць тому +2

    Everything is documented. The PO is a business. The PO must release all documentation. Ex directors and managers can all be found.

  • @dlmsarge8329
    @dlmsarge8329 Місяць тому +7

    It's very rude of this lawyer to try to remind her of something that makes her look so bad! Very rude indeed.

  • @trottersx
    @trottersx Місяць тому +3

    Should all have been hooked up to a polygraph!

  • @phillipramsdle2088
    @phillipramsdle2088 Місяць тому +1

    Not knowing,not remembering,won’t be a good argument in court

  • @michaeldelsoldato2905
    @michaeldelsoldato2905 Місяць тому +6

    Liar

  • @robertfitzjohn4755
    @robertfitzjohn4755 Місяць тому +6

    To be fair, I can't remember the contents of work emails from 2010. That's why copies need to be kept of all documents and communications.

    • @Perfidion
      @Perfidion Місяць тому +1

      All those late nights spent shredding and deleting things that could prove compromising are really paying off.

  • @Annie-ez4ol
    @Annie-ez4ol 12 днів тому +1

    The lack of recall has reached epidemic levels.

  • @jonathanfoster2568
    @jonathanfoster2568 Місяць тому +3

    The ol Nuremberg defence

  • @brianquinn6014
    @brianquinn6014 Місяць тому +4

    Famous words from Schultz in Hogans Heroes, I Know Nothing !

  • @-stantheman-
    @-stantheman- Місяць тому +1

    I sincerely hope that these people are investigated by the police.

  • @user-oi6ln4eq7b
    @user-oi6ln4eq7b Місяць тому +1

    This "amnesia" defence is such a lie it could never be a joke.

  • @67mooncat
    @67mooncat Місяць тому +2

    She’s using “the Sturgeon” defence.

  • @minixtvbox
    @minixtvbox Місяць тому +7

    what a c y n t

  • @BaccillusAnthracis
    @BaccillusAnthracis Місяць тому +1

    The nerve of these people still trying to cover it up

  • @donaldchapman5466
    @donaldchapman5466 Місяць тому +1

    There " SEEMS " to be a lot of " DO NOT RECALL " answers to IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ! Maybe it is so they are not forced to COMMIT PERJURY !!

  • @VeronicaKingsley-by9nc
    @VeronicaKingsley-by9nc Місяць тому +1

    How much money was she paid to be a lawyer (didn't perform) how much bonus did she get for following the instructions of the chair of the post office in breach of her duty to a court. the question should be Who appointed her to the role and sanctioned her salary - and how much money did they get

  • @memyself717
    @memyself717 Місяць тому +2

    Another sad case of early onset dementia. A career as a senior manager at the post office has its health hazards.

  • @willienelsongonzalez4609
    @willienelsongonzalez4609 Місяць тому +2

    Hmmm, so much selective amnesia going on during this inquiry. Chrichton should be stripped of her pension and any money she made whilst she was a lawyer for the Post Office.

  • @MarxistKnight
    @MarxistKnight 26 днів тому

    Can we get the Post Office to pay £100,000+ in compensation every time a PO executive says that they "do not recall" or "have never seen this before"?

  • @samspade975
    @samspade975 Місяць тому +1

    Nobody seems to recall anything, in this investigation, just hope she can find her way home

  • @Perfidion
    @Perfidion Місяць тому

    Pre-senile dementia is rampant at the Post Office these days. This stuff is up there with "I'm sorry Miss, the dog really did eat my homework."

  • @colinbuist609
    @colinbuist609 Місяць тому

    I’ll have to try these “ I can’t recall “ tactics if I’m ever in court .

  • @biling7636
    @biling7636 Місяць тому +1

    Could we get away with that in a court of law? I do not remember killing him or her so next question.Ok can I go now as I said I do not remember.What a shambles this enquiry is again I say no one will see the inside of a jail even though they put families there and knew they were not guilty of a crime.

  • @martindoman7315
    @martindoman7315 Місяць тому

    Another in the growing line of amnesiacs. I'm assuming that the ability to forget is a key qualification to get a senior position at the Post Office?

  • @bobburroughs6241
    @bobburroughs6241 Місяць тому +1

    The liars have no shame.

  • @HenryJasonVarga
    @HenryJasonVarga Місяць тому +1

    Maybe it's something about their diet, or pollution perhaps, affecting people's memory. I sometimes forget things too

  • @Galacticmaster
    @Galacticmaster Місяць тому

    just beyond belief - none of these people can think and they arent even qualified on the matters they are dealing with. in which case denying responsibility is an offence and they should be in jail to reflect on what they have done to many innocent people.

  • @DanChaytor
    @DanChaytor Місяць тому

    This whole 'I dont remember' bull is becoming more and more common to avoid responsibility. Disgraceful. Surely charges should follow?

  • @cobbler40
    @cobbler40 Місяць тому +2

    This was Johnson’s problem as well he couldn’t remember anything.

  • @adam28xx
    @adam28xx Місяць тому

    The amount of collective amnesia on display from all these Post Office officials is really quite extraordinary. It's about time they were told to their faces in this inquiry that it is clearly evident that the whole lot of them are lying through their teeth and hoping to get away with it.

  • @AA-pi2dz
    @AA-pi2dz Місяць тому +1

    The Post Office lawyers, most of whom don’t recall anything which is worrying as they are educated, allegedly intelligent and able to retain knowledge and information.
    Lawyers are supposed to be people of integrity, so when they smell an issue of lots of post masters/mistresses being accused of fraud and theft that they might question whether there is some amiss that is not the accused. Lawyers here have shown their integrity is lacking, perhaps that’s all UK lawyers.

  • @paulroper3298
    @paulroper3298 12 днів тому

    It must have been like working on a dementia ward working at Post Office, Nobody remembers anything.

  • @Alberturkey54
    @Alberturkey54 18 днів тому

    What will happen to the lying bureaucrats?

  • @neilmckenzie1989
    @neilmckenzie1989 Місяць тому +1

    I cannot recall any work-related situation where key, leading, senior folk have such poor memory recall!
    I can recall conversations from decades ago where I was involved - especially where I had either key input or decision making!
    “I do not recall” is a simple and blatant ‘I’m not going to answer because I know I screwed up’ response!

  • @TonyColl-ii3nf
    @TonyColl-ii3nf Місяць тому

    Why does the Post Office need so many in-house lawyers? In normal times, what do they all do?

  • @alistairmacrae4870
    @alistairmacrae4870 11 днів тому

    She is not lying, simply economical with the truth. Clucking bell, she is part of what is wrong in the UK

  • @granddadmark7639
    @granddadmark7639 Місяць тому +3

    It looks like another higher paid help from the post office has watched Clear and Present Danger (1994).... : I have no recollection, Senator 😢

  • @pillowcase2006
    @pillowcase2006 Місяць тому +1

    Yes she does. Let her think about her memory for her twilight years in prison. No sympathy.

  • @lw3646
    @lw3646 5 днів тому +1

    They never do....

  • @itmakesyouthink
    @itmakesyouthink Місяць тому

    One of the best ways the guilty don't purger themselves, they just don't recall.

  • @paulbird3235
    @paulbird3235 Місяць тому +1

    Why didn't she just keep saying, pass, pass, pass.

  • @GK1976A
    @GK1976A Місяць тому

    I love it how all these ‘people’ are quite happy to accept the wage that their positions commanded, but when it comes to taking any kind of responsibility they deny everything. There’s a word for people like that.

  • @TheKARMMARK
    @TheKARMMARK 9 днів тому +1

    Lock her up!!!

  • @iankeeley1854
    @iankeeley1854 Місяць тому +1

    None of them seem to recall anything 🤔

  • @exiledscouser919
    @exiledscouser919 Місяць тому

    The Sgt Schultz defence;
    "I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing!!!!”

  • @martinmoyles5854
    @martinmoyles5854 7 днів тому

    Another blatant obvious liar it’s almost laughable

  • @ripperrouge5985
    @ripperrouge5985 Місяць тому +1

    Lawyers lies who would have thought

  • @camd5348
    @camd5348 Місяць тому +1

    Lock her up.

  • @ianstone3580
    @ianstone3580 Місяць тому

    Most of these should be under arrest and in remand and release only after the verdict after a court case, I bet this would make it easier for them to “recall” matters.