I had this same call a while ago, it was a lady. she also did the "confirm the number was London courts". I dragged the call long enough and managed to get their bank account and sort code. I used the sort code to find out what bank they were using. I called the bank on my other phone (scammer was still on the first phone), I informed the bank what was going on and they managed to lock the account and put it into investigation. Their account had £1.6M, the scammer at this point was screaming all sorts of obscenities at me. the bank was able to return the funds to the people that had been scammed. Big win.
Pretty sure the scammers bank didn't reveal to you that they had a £1.6m balance. It's just not gonna happen. Another fantasist with make-believe tales.
@@davywiththelightbrownhair4095 NO, what he wrote is a legend, it is completely untrue. Banks need to take time to investigate such allegations into situations like this. There are 2 liars here and one is the Indian calling from HMRC.
The script for these UK scams fit the US model of tax collection. They still haven't done their homework. I am amazed and saddened that people fall for this.
We've been betrayed on all levels, so what are we going to do about it? Traitors all from top to bottom. Simple solution in less than 4 minuets ua-cam.com/video/MOTWkQZKELU/v-deo.html all it needs is for enough to take responsibility by showing their support and things are put right. Plain and simple...
I use this video for training seniors at my workplace on how to identify scam and scam tactics. They cheer at the end every time :) Thank you for sharing this, it's such a boon for us!
@chutalotr There is no court house or goat house in India either. After looting India for 300 years, what your ancestors left in India include yourown court system, legal framework, prison system (to punish Indians) English and railway (which you built to transport the looted wealth to the nearest port) . .
I am kind of let down that you did not waste more of the scammers time, I like it when the scammers go into full meltdowns and have their piece of mind disturbed in attempts to get any amount on money from you.
Whenever I get them I pretend to be old and can't hear them and say ridiculous things back to them, I like to think of it as a cost-free hobby. (And of course while they're tied up with me they aren't contacting someone who may believe them.)
Well done the recipient of the call. I will thank you on behalf of all who are now not victims of theft. This is the person I spoke to some months ago and the call was almost Identical, with the reference to numbers displayed. His behaviour is threatening and a less switched on person is going to fall for this. HMRC will never demand money over the phone - EVER!!. Thanks you scammersworldwide
HMRC would always write to you and as for criminal investigations, they wouldn't tell you about it nor would they have any influence or be in any position to make demands. If there was a criminal investigation then that would be the police who handled it. You would hear from them and not HMRC directly. The idea of HMRC dispatching police officers to your house on a blue light 999 run is absolutely laughable.
I just tell them to fuck off or come to my door if they want to prove it. Or they don't get a penny, always record any government businesses calling you especially banks.eg Lloyd's 100%.
A very strong "asian" accent and named "samuel Jenkins, Peter Davies, Stuart English etc etc,or whatever!! I simply tell them to go forth, and don't try to multiply!!
I sometimes do that too, and it can be mildly amusing or diverting for 10-15 minutes if you're WFH and between boring Zoom meetings. But the serious side to that is that they never call you in the evening, do they? It's always during the day: therefore, they're targeting unemployed and elderly people? Which adds another layer of despicability and shame to what most of us - who know what's going on - sometimes consider an amusing game.
Pro-tip: I've had this exact call several times and a lot of the scammers are wise to the fact people waste their time on purpose and have now started giving you their "warrant number" and "Court case number" and then asking you to write it down and then read it back to them, the implication being they'll know you're wasting their time if you can't read the details back to them. What I learnt was to write everything down, completely cooperate and spend 15 or 20 minutes telling them a long winded tale about how you believe your accountant has made a massive error, you've got tens of thousands of pounds in the bank, keep it going for as long as humanly possible, then at the exact moment you're about to pay.... tell them you'll "just the wallet out of the car". Then put the phone on the desk and walk off without disconnecting the line. I try to beat my personal best time each call. The best one was 37 minutes.
Wonderful! And while you are scamming the scammers, you are preventing them from potentially scamming some sweet vulnerable individual. You're doing God's work Mark.👍
I had one guy that claimed to be "Officer Smith" (sounded like the guy on the phone in this video) from Immigration Canada. He said my immigration status had been denied - even though I was born in Canada. He said that unless I paid something like $5000, I would be deported. I asked, "Deported?" "Yes sir." "You mean I am going to be taken to the airport, put on a plane and flown to Italy?" "Yes sir" "Ok, I'll pack my bags now, will you call me when the taxi is outside my house?" "No sir, you have to pay the $5000 or you will be deported." "Flown to Italy, you mean?" "Yes sir" "Yes, that sounds wonderful, thank you so much!"
Another good one is to say "I will go get my wife/husband/accountant, they deal with tax matters. Won't be a minute" then put the phone down, walk away and get on with what you are doing. Once my wife came back after 20 minutes, and the caller was going mental! Brilliant! Then we block the number
if they are calling you on a landline number, leave the phone off the hook for days, not just a few minutes and just use your mobile instead. If, its the same system as here in the U.K. it won`t matter if they hang up, they can still carry on a conversation once they come back the next day as the line is not broken, it will only be broken once you hang up. The meter will continue to turn at their end running their bill up through the roof.They might think twice about calling you again. The reason i know is that i used to get silent calls and the police told me of this trick. It turned out to be a neighbour who did it and his bill shot up through the roof from a low payer to over £1400 which he only had 7 days to pay it or, be taken to court. Of coarse he paid up and the calls stopped.
@@andyhughes5885 good point. NEVER use the same phone to phone a bank etc to check. The line will still be connected to the scammers, and they answer pretending to be the bank
When I detected a scammer call, which usually I can do before even picking up the phone, I sometimes like to answer with “Hello, Metropolitan Police Telephone Fraud Department, how can I help you?”.
it's a real shame that the internet service providers will not work with the law to stop things like this happening, because if they did then this type of crime would never happen (or rarely) again
UK folks are so well spoken and refined when dealing with this problem. As a "stupid American" I usually insult their mothers and and blast a portable airhorn into the phone the moment they say the sheriff is coming to arrest me for a bill.
@@mickwall1286 A cheap whistle work a treat as well. Just tell them you can`t hear them and to turn up their volumn once they do that you still can`t hear and a trick you learnt is for the scammer to press their hheadphones well into the ears then blast them with your whistle - next stop for them is the hospital with damaged eardrums.
I love talking to them for as long as I can . I go along with it but pretend to be very stupid. It angers the fuck out of them. Personally I think anyone found guilty of carrying out these fraud calls should be stoned to death. It's only fair.
I got one not long ago, and they asked for my post code. I told them it was BE11 END and said that's what you are mate 😂. I've done the pretend to be Welsh thing too... great fun.
I keep them on the line as long as I feel that it's progressing. When I'm ready, I tell the fraudster that his mother has just arrived for her weekly sex session with me. I tell him/her that: "Damn, she's good!". Why do they then hang up? P.S. If I'm feeling very pissed off, I tell them it's their grandma at the door!
I had a similar call, but tried to tell the bloke he'd got the wrong person because I was quite sure I didn't owe the amount he was quoting. I said, "Can you quote my National Insurance number, or my UTR number?" (Unique Tax Reference, which has 10 digits). He said, "your UTR is xxxxxx", quoting a 6-digit number. I said, "that's not enough digits for a UTR. You're from HMRC and you don't know what a UTR is? Very strange." That was the end of the call. That's the thing about these scammers: as soon as you ask a question they can't answer, they hang up - they know they're not going to get anywhere with you.
It's kinda annoying when they actually have that information though. I don't know how but a scammer had my correct NIN. I only knew it was a scammer because they used high pressure scammer tactics. But they literally buy information that has been stolen elsewhere.
I had this exact same call, l kept them on for as long as possible. Acting upset and anxious not knowing what was happening that my accountant must have made an error. A colleague walked into the staff room the guy on the phone asked who it was and told me to make sure nobody was able to overhear us, he then put me onto someone else to take the payment. This was when l explained that my colleague stood next to me was a detective in the crime squad.. he decided to hurl abuse at me, to which l replied he shouldnt be talking to me like that with him being an employee of the HMRC and could l have his details... tinker slammed his phone down on me 🤔
My game is always to try and get them to hang upon me. I keep asking them to repeat themselves slowly. What their address is? What government agency do they work for? What the registered business number of their organisation is? What official record keeping practices they are using to verify my case? What my case number is? Etc, etc. I have an endless supply of questions. They usually give up after about 2 or 3 questions.
Their offices are all based in Park Road, Mumbai. There’s dozens of these call centres each with dozens of employees. The authorities are fully aware what is going on but receive bribes from the owners to turn a blind eye. From a corruption viewpoint, India is a cess pit.
@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp jeeeez….can’t they do anything about it? What those idiots are doing is scamming the innocent. Me bing one of the innocent ones. They took control of my brand new laptop…one that my dad gave me in his will. Now I can’t use my laptop unless I spend $175 to get it fixed…that’s money that I don’t have because I can’t work due to medical reasons…so what am I to do? Just let the scammers destroy every innocent person on this earth?
I had a similar call some time ago, when he said the police will come and arrest me, I screamed down the phone, "they better be armed, they won't take me alive", then gave him my best maniacal laughter. He hung up.
When I get these calls pretending to be from a U.K. city I demand a native English speaker. They once passed me to an Indian who tried his best to put on an English accent, it was hilarious
Can I warn my fellow UK citizens , beware,they steal and use UK landline phone numbers to scam,I have had these rascals call my smartphone on false numbers,if it's not known, delete immediately.. Or block it..
@@LouiseKernow2024 A colleague of mine had a sister working at HMRC when Working Tax Credits were introduced. Apparently the staff were horrified when members of the public just turned up expecting to be helped.
Got the exact same call today. I just moved to the UK, which I think they somehow knew because they said i “haven’t paid my immigration tax and owe the govt an amount of £2146”. It’s scary how similar the conversation was, with them telling me I had 2 options of going to court or paying now, asked if I used other banks like Revolut and Monzo, etc. they even offered to set up a payment plan so I could pay them what I “owed” over the next 12 months! So please beware that these guys are still around. I did call the *actual* HMRC after and reported their numbers. These guys deserve to be jailed for life.
I've had this several times now and played it both ways. Some of the time I tell them that I'm innocent and I'll go to court where I'll be found not-guilty because I've done nothing wrong. This kinda trips them up.
Yeah but this is all aimed at the very naive & the elderly UK generations who never had to deal with the inherent scamming DNA of certain cultures when they were growing up. Those of us from the younger generations are used to the tactics used by these despicable people. Just before full lockdown 2 years ago, I was selling a relatively expensive prestigious car privately. Before putting it up for sale I had the car checked over by the dealer with a major service inc gearbox & cambelt - cost over £1.5k. I'd owned it from 6 months old & it had an impeccable history. The car was running absolutely perfectly. A bunch of Asians turned up from London. They attempted to scam me by spraying oil into the twin exhausts when I was with the main guy inside the car - on the test drive the smoke billowed out as I demonstrated the acceleration. At first I wasn't sure what was wrong & it was only a bit later when the bonnet was up & I was distracted to the rear of the car by the other guys asking questions about some possible rear damage that I realised what was happening - the main guy had stayed at the front of the car, unscrewed the coolant cap & added some oil which he showed me on his fingers. I said that I'd have to get that sorted, to get rid of them - they said they were mechanics & could fix it but they could only offer about £6000 less than my price because of the possible severity of the engine damage. I said no, they kept adding £500 to their ever-increasing offers. I said no, I don't want to sell a car that isn't working properly, again just to get rid of them. At an offer about £4000 less than my price they eventually left & I called the police. They were never caught - the police thought they'd used a false number plate on the car in which they'd arrived. I tell you this to serve as a warning about ubiquitous dodgy Asians.
I say to them, particularly the female ones, "Just what your mother would say if she knew what you are doing. She's be horrified that you were scamming people. She would be horrified that she's raised a thief".
I had one insisting that he had already called the 'London Police' and if I payed my fine he would call them off.. . As I lived north of Glasgow my suspicions were aroused.. ..
I received this call today. I kind of got scared when they called me from the number in the hmrc website. But thank god, I somehow managed to end the call and escape from the scam. Thanks for your video. It was exactly like the same in the video that person talked to me.
It is good to keep them on the line as long as you can, so that you are taking up their time, so they cannot scam someone else. However I could not help having a bit of fun with them. When they called me and said I had defrauded on my tax, I asked them what sort of tax? "What do you mean what sort of tax?" So I went through every of tax I could think of starting with Climate Change Levy and ending with Income Tax (there are a lot of different taxes in the UK and it took me a couple of minutes - I am a retired accountant). The reply was " Well, Income Tax of course!" I replied " Is it Schedule A, Schedule B, ScheduleC.....". They put the phone down. Shame, I was just getting going.
As soon as he said that this message was being recorded and played in court I would have asked him if I could do a song, and if he had any requests. Then just start singing something.
I was recieving these during the first lockdown, while holed up on my lonesome in a hotel room. I was pretty sure it was a scam, but as I had been taken to court for real previously for something I was innocent of, it re-triggered my anxiety. Fortunately, I'm on the mend now, although reliving that experience now some two years on still fills me with the dread of waiting to go to court. Nobody scammed me out of any money. But they managed to use a scam to have a negative impact on my mental health. They're BASTARD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If it is of any help, HMRC would not just threaten you with court action over the phone. There would be long trail of correspondence and investigation (if fraud was involved) before you got to that point. Even then, any prosecution summons would have to be served in writing. In my day, these had to be served in person. If they refused to accept it I had to throw at their feet. I think they use the recorded post these days.
i had one once and they asked for me by name. i said I don't live here as I'm robbing the place and pleaded with them not to call the police... that stopped them.
These fraudsters are useless, they called me last year, my phone has 2 sim cards, one UK number and the other is Czech where I live and that's where I pay tax. When they told me that the Met Police would be at my house in 30 minutes, I just laughed and laughed.
I had one of these tell me that there was a non-bailable arrest warrant in my name. When I told him there was no such thing in the UK and he really ought to read The Bail Act 1976 he got very angry bless his little cotton socks :-D
Jesus! They don’t even mix it up! Here in the U.S. the script is the same! My answering machine usually screens them and deletes the call but the one time I got the phone and they said they had a warrant I told them to kick the door down but don’t let my indoor cat out! Confused and speechless -they hung up! LOL 😂
UK based here. I've seen the US scam calls. Then one day I got a call with your script! Our tax collection is completely different. We have Pay As You Earn. Tax is deducted at each pay point, according to your earnings in that pay period. PAYE. So their scam doesn't fit here. If I have time, I do like to have a bit of fun. I especially like interrupting the script with loads of nonsense until they lose it and slam the phone down!
😂 these guys called me and said i owe 2k and said the police are going to arest me if i dont pay, then they asked for my name and address. So i said oh you dont know? So how are you going to arest me if you dont know my name or where i am. Laughed so hard then put the phone down it was fun 😂😂😂😂
Slushy i was also told i was being arrested later on in the day. I asked what time. He said in the afternoon. I then said No this afternoon is not convenient as i have a dentist appointment then i am taking my mothers for another covid jab. He got irate saying did i realise how serious this was. I said yes but today is no good and can we arrange a day later in the week which would be more convenient for myself. HE JUST HUNG UP. I love keeping these people on the phone as long as i can. My record is 38 minutes with a so called computer virus call and just kept telling him my computer is really slow so there could be a virus on it so what do i need to do?
@@andyhaslam9231 thats a good one lol il try that one next time. Yeh keeping them on the phone is the best thing to do waste their time. Its a shame people actualy fall for this kind of stuff tho.
I've had a call pretty much along the same lines. The person in this video is a lot more patient than I was. I just started yelling swear words down the line after about thirty seconds.
The thing I want to try out is to ask the caller what they're wearing. When they ask why, one tells them that a mental image is needed to aid in the self-pleasuring. But because my number has been registered on Telephone Preference Service (UK) for so many years, I sadly don't get the chance - and this is the same number that was printed on several thousand flyers when I was a club secretary! I can't claim the clothing question idea as my own - that came from a commenter on The Register many years ago - geeks know how to deal with frauds!
My mum had the exact same call, she was in tears reading out her national insurance number before I put two and two together and screamed “NOOOOOOO”. DO NOT allow these calls to put pressure on you, if they supposedly have police ready to send… send them. They won’t arrive… because they do not exist. It is everyone’s duty, to bring awareness to these scam calls… the amount of suicides relative to vulnerable people being manipulated like in this video, it truly makes me feel sick. Death to all scammers.
While driving to work a few weeks ago in Dublin I had a call from a UK number and a lady with an American accent informed me that she was from Irish Revenue & Customs. People should realise that a real tax official would know your tax number. Anyway real officials don't conduct business like that over the phone.
I used to work in the enforcement department of HMRC. By the time things got to court (and Crown Court is only ever after an arrest for and charge of fraud and no longer in Enforcement's hands) there would no longer be any calls. Why call during bankruptcy proceedings? For amounts less than £5,000 it went out to, then, bailiffs and now commercial debt enforcement companies.
I had these scammers call me. They asked for my full address and so I gave them the Russian Embassy address in London. Then they asked for my sort code which I gave them as HMRC sort code. The line went dead after that.......cannot think why? 😂
Simple way to check your tax, go to the Government gateway, set up access, you will need your personal details and National Insurance Number, its all there and instantly gives details of your tax for the current and previous two years. Payment for under payment can be made from there directly and yes they will not ring you ever.
Tax Authorities typically don't call, certainly not to inform pending enforcement. Just say "I'll wait for the written Notice in the mail. My Tax Attorney will deal with it". The end.
When I get these calls, I ask in Welsh, (which I can speak), if they can speak Welsh, this goes on for a couple of minutes, then they hang up, no doubt fuming.
I had the same call, scammers pretending to be HMRC. I asked them to send me the paperwork, then I got suspicious. HMRC or anyone don’t cold call anyone. I reported the number to BT.
I have had cold callers and people like this scammer calling me for years. They once annoyed me, and 'got under my skin'. Nowadays before they can speak and with the call centre audibly in the background my opening line to them is to gently say 'I think you have got a wrong number'. This confuses them because because usually that phrase is is used by people who pick the phone up more than people who ring others. Often they put the phone down soon after, though the more intent scammers will be harder more resistant to politeness.
I had a text message saying I have committed 5 criminal offenses and that I had to contact a phone number and talk to somebody about it or pay a fine at a website. I sent a text saying you have got the wrong number and nobody is at home anyway.
I had this tried on me twice, I live in sheltered accommodation,75, the thing that tipped me off was it was an Indian voice and I could hardly tell what they were saying.Also Iv been retire a while and aren’t well of enough to have to pay income tax on anything, so I told them I would report the call to the police and sod off!. The thing is there are some vulnerable people who would give away vital information out of fear.👿😡
I get very good results from telling the caller "Calls to this number will be recorded for training or security purposes, and may be used in court" - that is invariably followed by "CLICK" as the caller, invariably with an Indian accent, hangs up
I once kept one talking for a few minutes then said "I have to inform you that our system shows you have not been permitted to contact this secure line. Your number has now been traced and our officers are on their way to you. Do not make any attempt to leave your premises." And hung up.
This recording is " borrowed", isn't it? This was originally broadcast on the Radio 4 Moneybox programme , captured by a reporter who managed to record it.
I use to get scanners saying they were phoning from Microsoft. My son and I use to have so much fun with them: The one time, I thanked them profusely for phoning and told them that I was very depressed and welcomed the opportunity to chat to them. Another time, my son and I asked if they would listen to a song and we sang to them. Another time we played a long with them but in a very over the top manner. So the joke was on them. But on a more serious note, 15 or so years ago, some 10 000 pounds was removed from my Citibank account to an account in Thailand, from where it was withdrawn and the account closed. While it took 3 weeks, Citibank eventually re-imbused me.
in Sicily the victims would have organized a visit to these swindlers by sending a couple of boys to their house. they wouldn't do it anymore. Greetings from Italy
I had this same call a while ago, it was a lady. she also did the "confirm the number was London courts". I dragged the call long enough and managed to get their bank account and sort code. I used the sort code to find out what bank they were using. I called the bank on my other phone (scammer was still on the first phone), I informed the bank what was going on and they managed to lock the account and put it into investigation. Their account had £1.6M, the scammer at this point was screaming all sorts of obscenities at me. the bank was able to return the funds to the people that had been scammed. Big win.
After reading that I'd rather call you Clark Kent ! Well bloody done.
Fantastic Kent your a legend
Pretty sure the scammers bank didn't reveal to you that they had a £1.6m balance. It's just not gonna happen. Another fantasist with make-believe tales.
@@davywiththelightbrownhair4095 NO, what he wrote is a legend, it is completely untrue. Banks need to take time to investigate such allegations into situations like this.
There are 2 liars here and one is the Indian calling from HMRC.
Wish you had recorded that call!
As an ex HMRC employee, I find these calls hilarious. Why would the court house collect taxes? Why not The Post Office or maybe Argos?
give it a couple of years, it'll happen. McSelf-Assessment consoles are coming.
I found it funny they threatened to "cancel" my national insurance number...
Like that doesn't even make sense.
Exactly. These people have no idea how the UK tax collection system works. Nobody from HMRC would ring anyone from a courthouse.
The script for these UK scams fit the US model of tax collection. They still haven't done their homework. I am amazed and saddened that people fall for this.
@@Brian-om2hh Don't tell them anything to improve their scam as when you take them off script it tends to end the call with a sudden click
Here in the USA I tell them I’m not even a legal citizen, I sell drugs , and steal cars , how could they possibly think I pay taxes ??
Click…
HAHA!! Kudos, sir! 🤣🤣
Thanks sir I think that's a brilliant response I'll be using that in England now
Awesome and altogether effin exceptionally brilliant. Love it.
We've been betrayed on all levels, so what are we going to do about it?
Traitors all from top to bottom.
Simple solution in less than 4 minuets ua-cam.com/video/MOTWkQZKELU/v-deo.html all it needs is for enough to take responsibility by showing their support and things are put right. Plain and simple...
I thought that's where he was going when he said he couldn't possibly have the police round.
I use this video for training seniors at my workplace on how to identify scam and scam tactics. They cheer at the end every time :) Thank you for sharing this, it's such a boon for us!
We don’t have “court houses” in the UK.
Sssssshhhhhh don't tell them that!!
Sounded more like 'goat house'!
Well, we do. We just call them courts. It's the exact same thing 🤷
@chutalotr There is no court house or goat house in India either. After looting India for 300 years, what your ancestors left in India include yourown court system, legal framework, prison system (to punish Indians) English and railway (which you built to transport the looted wealth to the nearest port) . .
@@haridhar8620 poor indian victims ....
I am kind of let down that you did not waste more of the scammers time, I like it when the scammers go into full meltdowns and have their piece of mind disturbed in attempts to get any amount on money from you.
Whenever I get them I pretend to be old and can't hear them and say ridiculous things back to them, I like to think of it as a cost-free hobby. (And of course while they're tied up with me they aren't contacting someone who may believe them.)
Yeah I used to do this all the time and string them a long for ages, funnily enough I don't get that many calls now.
Well done the recipient of the call. I will thank you on behalf of all who are now not victims of theft. This is the person I spoke to some months ago and the call was almost Identical, with the reference to numbers displayed. His behaviour is threatening and a less switched on person is going to fall for this. HMRC will never demand money over the phone - EVER!!.
Thanks you scammersworldwide
HMRC would always write to you and as for criminal investigations, they wouldn't tell you about it nor would they have any influence or be in any position to make demands.
If there was a criminal investigation then that would be the police who handled it. You would hear from them and not HMRC directly. The idea of HMRC dispatching police officers to your house on a blue light 999 run is absolutely laughable.
Imagine working for HMRC but have a strong Indian accent. Nightmare.
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I just tell them to fuck off or come to my door if they want to prove it. Or they don't get a penny, always record any government businesses calling you especially banks.eg Lloyd's 100%.
I found running bear and Fighting crows Navajo dialect soothing somewhat....
A very strong "asian" accent and named "samuel Jenkins, Peter Davies, Stuart English etc etc,or whatever!! I simply tell them to go forth, and don't try to multiply!!
It's not the guys accent it's the fact that he's talking absolute nonesense.
The best thing about scammers calling is that you can say whatever sick, disturbing angry thing you like to them and not feel a shred of guilt ❤
I wish we could publicly start executing these scammers.
Form an orderly que behind me.
A man after my own heart! And my preferred method of "dispatch" for such scallywags? Hmm, I think SCAPHISM!
Hanged by their ball and lowered in small jerks.
I want the people who sell our information to be put away
@@turokforever007 Want all you like. The brutal truth is that will NEVER happen
It brightens my day when they scammers call. I always waste as much of their time as I can so they can’t potentially scam some poor old dear
I sometimes do that too, and it can be mildly amusing or diverting for 10-15 minutes if you're WFH and between boring Zoom meetings. But the serious side to that is that they never call you in the evening, do they? It's always during the day: therefore, they're targeting unemployed and elderly people? Which adds another layer of despicability and shame to what most of us - who know what's going on - sometimes consider an amusing game.
Pro-tip: I've had this exact call several times and a lot of the scammers are wise to the fact people waste their time on purpose and have now started giving you their "warrant number" and "Court case number" and then asking you to write it down and then read it back to them, the implication being they'll know you're wasting their time if you can't read the details back to them. What I learnt was to write everything down, completely cooperate and spend 15 or 20 minutes telling them a long winded tale about how you believe your accountant has made a massive error, you've got tens of thousands of pounds in the bank, keep it going for as long as humanly possible, then at the exact moment you're about to pay.... tell them you'll "just the wallet out of the car". Then put the phone on the desk and walk off without disconnecting the line. I try to beat my personal best time each call. The best one was 37 minutes.
Wonderful! And while you are scamming the scammers, you are preventing them from potentially scamming some sweet vulnerable individual. You're doing God's work Mark.👍
my absolute record is about 20 minutes, but all depends on my mood. I can waste about 10 min just by spelling my name 🤣
So the whole plotline of Kitboga haha
@@oxsila and many many others
Thats some good time wasting
I had one guy that claimed to be "Officer Smith" (sounded like the guy on the phone in this video) from Immigration Canada. He said my immigration status had been denied - even though I was born in Canada. He said that unless I paid something like $5000, I would be deported.
I asked, "Deported?"
"Yes sir."
"You mean I am going to be taken to the airport, put on a plane and flown to Italy?"
"Yes sir"
"Ok, I'll pack my bags now, will you call me when the taxi is outside my house?"
"No sir, you have to pay the $5000 or you will be deported."
"Flown to Italy, you mean?"
"Yes sir"
"Yes, that sounds wonderful, thank you so much!"
Lolol@ your story! Much admiration for your style
Another good one is to say "I will go get my wife/husband/accountant, they deal with tax matters. Won't be a minute" then put the phone down, walk away and get on with what you are doing. Once my wife came back after 20 minutes, and the caller was going mental! Brilliant! Then we block the number
if they are calling you on a landline number, leave the phone off the hook for days, not just a few minutes and just use your mobile instead. If, its the same system as here in the U.K. it won`t matter if they hang up, they can still carry on a conversation once they come back the next day as the line is not broken, it will only be broken once you hang up. The meter will continue to turn at their end running their bill up through the roof.They might think twice about calling you again. The reason i know is that i used to get silent calls and the police told me of this trick. It turned out to be a neighbour who did it and his bill shot up through the roof from a low payer to over £1400 which he only had 7 days to pay it or, be taken to court. Of coarse he paid up and the calls stopped.
@@andyhughes5885 good point. NEVER use the same phone to phone a bank etc to check. The line will still be connected to the scammers, and they answer pretending to be the bank
That's what I do, it really works!
When I detected a scammer call, which usually I can do before even picking up the phone, I sometimes like to answer with “Hello, Metropolitan Police Telephone Fraud Department, how can I help you?”.
@@stuartmcconnachie 😁😂🥺💸💥👍
it's a real shame that the internet service providers will not work with the law to stop things like this happening, because if they did then this type of crime would never happen (or rarely) again
UK folks are so well spoken and refined when dealing with this problem. As a "stupid American" I usually insult their mothers and and blast a portable airhorn into the phone the moment they say the sheriff is coming to arrest me for a bill.
In the U.K. a court is not described as a Court House, just a Court. In England its Magistrates Court, in Scotland its a Sheriff Court.
Air horn. Good idea, thanks.
@@mickwall1286 A cheap whistle work a treat as well. Just tell them you can`t hear them and to turn up their volumn once they do that you still can`t hear and a trick you learnt is for the scammer to press their hheadphones well into the ears then blast them with your whistle - next stop for them is the hospital with damaged eardrums.
With that comparison, I prefer the American method even though I'm British. Your way sounds a lot more fun!
No you don't.
Stop talking bollocks
I love talking to them for as long as I can . I go along with it but pretend to be very stupid. It angers the fuck out of them. Personally I think anyone found guilty of carrying out these fraud calls should be stoned to death. It's only fair.
No matter how much weed you give them it will not kill them 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 I Joke
Speak to them in Welsh..they are totally confused!!!
I agree with the stoning, but it has to be one stone so that it takes a couple of days.
I got one not long ago, and they asked for my post code. I told them it was BE11 END and said that's what you are mate 😂.
I've done the pretend to be Welsh thing too... great fun.
I keep them on the line as long as I feel that it's progressing. When I'm ready, I tell the fraudster that his mother has just arrived for her weekly sex session with me. I tell him/her that: "Damn, she's good!". Why do they then hang up? P.S. If I'm feeling very pissed off, I tell them it's their grandma at the door!
I had a similar call, but tried to tell the bloke he'd got the wrong person because I was quite sure I didn't owe the amount he was quoting. I said, "Can you quote my National Insurance number, or my UTR number?" (Unique Tax Reference, which has 10 digits). He said, "your UTR is xxxxxx", quoting a 6-digit number. I said, "that's not enough digits for a UTR. You're from HMRC and you don't know what a UTR is? Very strange." That was the end of the call. That's the thing about these scammers: as soon as you ask a question they can't answer, they hang up - they know they're not going to get anywhere with you.
Unfortunately, training is now so bad in HMRC, legit employees don't know much either.
It's kinda annoying when they actually have that information though. I don't know how but a scammer had my correct NIN. I only knew it was a scammer because they used high pressure scammer tactics. But they literally buy information that has been stolen elsewhere.
I had this exact same call, l kept them on for as long as possible. Acting upset and anxious not knowing what was happening that my accountant must have made an error. A colleague walked into the staff room the guy on the phone asked who it was and told me to make sure nobody was able to overhear us, he then put me onto someone else to take the payment. This was when l explained that my colleague stood next to me was a detective in the crime squad.. he decided to hurl abuse at me, to which l replied he shouldnt be talking to me like that with him being an employee of the HMRC and could l have his details... tinker slammed his phone down on me 🤔
My game is always to try and get them to hang upon me. I keep asking them to repeat themselves slowly. What their address is? What government agency do they work for? What the registered business number of their organisation is? What official record keeping practices they are using to verify my case? What my case number is? Etc, etc. I have an endless supply of questions. They usually give up after about 2 or 3 questions.
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These idiotic scammers NEED to be found and PENALIZED and
Put in jail.
I disagree, they should be hung.
They’re calling from abroad, usually from the Indian subcontinent, so beyond the reach of local (ie national) police & courts.
Their offices are all based in Park Road, Mumbai. There’s dozens of these call centres each with dozens of employees. The authorities are fully aware what is going on but receive bribes from the owners to turn a blind eye. From a corruption viewpoint, India is a cess pit.
@@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp jeeeez….can’t they do anything about it? What those idiots are doing is scamming the innocent. Me bing one of the innocent ones. They took control of my brand new laptop…one that my dad gave me in his will. Now I can’t use my laptop unless I spend $175 to get it fixed…that’s money that I don’t have because I can’t work due to medical reasons…so what am I to do? Just let the scammers destroy every innocent person on this earth?
@@stephennewton2777Yep and India does not care and probably are even in on it
I had a similar call some time ago, when he said the police will come and arrest me, I screamed down the phone, "they better be armed, they won't take me alive", then gave him my best maniacal laughter. He hung up.
I love that! 😂 I'm going to write it down. Would love to have been a fly on the wall at the other end of that call!!
Who the hell do these people think they are trying to scare people into paying money. Absolutely disgusting!! Can't believe the cheek of it
When I get these calls pretending to be from a U.K. city I demand a native English speaker. They once passed me to an Indian who tried his best to put on an English accent, it was hilarious
You wait. I had a call from James Bond. Hilarious. Eastern Indian accent. !!!
Don't give them ideas, these f@#£ker will go for accent classes, just to be able to scam anyone.
I tell them my name is Bruce Wayne.
I said my name is Tikka Masala.
Can I warn my fellow UK citizens , beware,they steal and use UK landline phone numbers to scam,I have had these rascals call my smartphone on false numbers,if it's not known, delete immediately.. Or block it..
Just found your channel. Thanks for exposing these criminals! Keep it up!
It's always good to be able to waste their time if at all possible, before telling them you knew exactly what they were doing.
I just discovered your channel. Keep up the good fight as the more people who are on our side the better. ❤️👌
In reality at this stage you would have received a ton of paperwork from HMRC and no warrant would be issued
and HMRC would never phone you !
@@LouiseKernow2024 A colleague of mine had a sister working at HMRC when Working Tax Credits were introduced. Apparently the staff were horrified when members of the public just turned up expecting to be helped.
They can call you but you'd be very aware what they are calling about already like outstanding vat debt etc.
Got the exact same call today. I just moved to the UK, which I think they somehow knew because they said i “haven’t paid my immigration tax and owe the govt an amount of £2146”. It’s scary how similar the conversation was, with them telling me I had 2 options of going to court or paying now, asked if I used other banks like Revolut and Monzo, etc.
they even offered to set up a payment plan so I could pay them what I “owed” over the next 12 months!
So please beware that these guys are still around.
I did call the *actual* HMRC after and reported their numbers. These guys deserve to be jailed for life.
I've had this several times now and played it both ways. Some of the time I tell them that I'm innocent and I'll go to court where I'll be found not-guilty because I've done nothing wrong. This kinda trips them up.
The scammer wanted my bank card details. I gave him the number of my old Tesco clubcard.
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Brilliant 😂😅😂
That's genius 😂
I'd pay good money to listen to a phone conversation between one of these scammers and a sovereign citizen.
My God, he was the least convincing scammer I have come across so far
Agreed. Totally pathetic. But some still fall for it....
Yeah but this is all aimed at the very naive & the elderly UK generations who never had to deal with the inherent scamming DNA of certain cultures when they were growing up. Those of us from the younger generations are used to the tactics used by these despicable people.
Just before full lockdown 2 years ago, I was selling a relatively expensive prestigious car privately. Before putting it up for sale I had the car checked over by the dealer with a major service inc gearbox & cambelt - cost over £1.5k. I'd owned it from 6 months old & it had an impeccable history. The car was running absolutely perfectly.
A bunch of Asians turned up from London. They attempted to scam me by spraying oil into the twin exhausts when I was with the main guy inside the car - on the test drive the smoke billowed out as I demonstrated the acceleration. At first I wasn't sure what was wrong & it was only a bit later when the bonnet was up & I was distracted to the rear of the car by the other guys asking questions about some possible rear damage that I realised what was happening - the main guy had stayed at the front of the car, unscrewed the coolant cap & added some oil which he showed me on his fingers. I said that I'd have to get that sorted, to get rid of them - they said they were mechanics & could fix it but they could only offer about £6000 less than my price because of the possible severity of the engine damage. I said no, they kept adding £500 to their ever-increasing offers. I said no, I don't want to sell a car that isn't working properly, again just to get rid of them. At an offer about £4000 less than my price they eventually left & I called the police. They were never caught - the police thought they'd used a false number plate on the car in which they'd arrived.
I tell you this to serve as a warning about ubiquitous dodgy Asians.
I just say, "Okay then send the police round. I expect that I be waiting for ever!", and then hang up.
I say to them, particularly the female ones, "Just what your mother would say if she knew what you are doing. She's be horrified that you were scamming people. She would be horrified that she's raised a thief".
I had one insisting that he had already called the 'London Police' and if I payed my fine he would call them off.. . As I lived north of Glasgow my suspicions were aroused.. ..
You should have said to him 'What?! New Scotland Yard?'. Just so you could hear him reply 'No no Madam! Not Scotland. London!'.
Should have asked whether that was the Metropolitan Police or the City of London Police!
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I received this call today. I kind of got scared when they called me from the number in the hmrc website. But thank god, I somehow managed to end the call and escape from the scam. Thanks for your video. It was exactly like the same in the video that person talked to me.
It is good to keep them on the line as long as you can, so that you are taking up their time, so they cannot scam someone else. However I could not help having a bit of fun with them. When they called me and said I had defrauded on my tax, I asked them what sort of tax?
"What do you mean what sort of tax?"
So I went through every of tax I could think of starting with Climate Change Levy and ending with Income Tax (there are a lot of different taxes in the UK and it took me a couple of minutes - I am a retired accountant).
The reply was " Well, Income Tax of course!"
I replied " Is it Schedule A, Schedule B, ScheduleC.....".
They put the phone down. Shame, I was just getting going.
Well done! Leading them on as far as you can to waste their time is an excellent tactic that cuts down on the number of scam call they make.!
As soon as he said that this message was being recorded and played in court I would have asked him if I could do a song, and if he had any requests. Then just start singing something.
The Beatles' "Taxman"... 🤣
Having dealt with these people, not even scammers, I am always suspicious and act like I dont understand ! It drives them mad.
I just ask who they want to speak to and say “hold on, I’ll get them for you”, put the phone down( not hang up) and get on with what I was doing.
I was recieving these during the first lockdown, while holed up on my lonesome in a hotel room. I was pretty sure it was a scam, but as I had been taken to court for real previously for something I was innocent of, it re-triggered my anxiety. Fortunately, I'm on the mend now, although reliving that experience now some two years on still fills me with the dread of waiting to go to court. Nobody scammed me out of any money. But they managed to use a scam to have a negative impact on my mental health. They're BASTARD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely agree. Total madhar chods ( mother fuckers) . I learned a bit of the Hindu language.
If it is of any help, HMRC would not just threaten you with court action over the phone. There would be long trail of correspondence and investigation (if fraud was involved) before you got to that point. Even then, any prosecution summons would have to be served in writing. In my day, these had to be served in person. If they refused to accept it I had to throw at their feet. I think they use the recorded post these days.
A criminal and a crook, there is another C word you missed out !
We get these in Australia!! And they " do not be interrupting this is being the official calling sir of the government official department of arrest"
Clearly legitimate! 😁
I usually ask them if their parents are proud of the work they do. Stealing from people. I find that this really does hit a nerve with therm.
I work for HMRC and I am dying for them to ring me
They tend to call back making angry threats if you do stuff like this. I would advise just putting the phone down.
i had one once and they asked for me by name. i said I don't live here as I'm robbing the place and pleaded with them not to call the police... that stopped them.
These fraudsters are useless, they called me last year, my phone has 2 sim cards, one UK number and the other is Czech where I live and that's where I pay tax. When they told me that the Met Police would be at my house in 30 minutes, I just laughed and laughed.
They usually wear headsets, keep playing the most ear splitting sound randomly down the phone and pretend you can't hear it.
I keep a whistle by my phone for these sort of calls. One hard blow and those scammers wont be using that ear any more 😁
Snap
I use my dad's old referee whistle , the type with a pea inside
@@johnshaw4140 yeah,thats the type i have. Makes a satisfying sound lol.
I was thinking the very same thing as I scrolled down the comments.
I had one of these tell me that there was a non-bailable arrest warrant in my name. When I told him there was no such thing in the UK and he really ought to read The Bail Act 1976 he got very angry bless his little cotton socks :-D
Jesus! They don’t even mix it up! Here in the U.S. the script is the same! My answering machine usually screens them and deletes the call but the one time I got the phone and they said they had a warrant I told them to kick the door down but don’t let my indoor cat out! Confused and speechless -they hung up! LOL 😂
UK based here. I've seen the US scam calls. Then one day I got a call with your script! Our tax collection is completely different. We have Pay As You Earn. Tax is deducted at each pay point, according to your earnings in that pay period. PAYE. So their scam doesn't fit here. If I have time, I do like to have a bit of fun. I especially like interrupting the script with loads of nonsense until they lose it and slam the phone down!
😂 these guys called me and said i owe 2k and said the police are going to arest me if i dont pay, then they asked for my name and address. So i said oh you dont know? So how are you going to arest me if you dont know my name or where i am. Laughed so hard then put the phone down it was fun 😂😂😂😂
Slushy i was also told i was being arrested later on in the day. I asked what time. He said in the afternoon. I then said No this afternoon is not convenient as i have a dentist appointment then i am taking my mothers for another covid jab. He got irate saying did i realise how serious this was. I said yes but today is no good and can we arrange a day later in the week which would be more convenient for myself. HE JUST HUNG UP. I love keeping these people on the phone as long as i can. My record is 38 minutes with a so called computer virus call and just kept telling him my computer is really slow so there could be a virus on it so what do i need to do?
@@andyhaslam9231 thats a good one lol il try that one next time. Yeh keeping them on the phone is the best thing to do waste their time. Its a shame people actualy fall for this kind of stuff tho.
I've had a call pretty much along the same lines. The person in this video is a lot more patient than I was. I just started yelling swear words down the line after about thirty seconds.
The thing I want to try out is to ask the caller what they're wearing. When they ask why, one tells them that a mental image is needed to aid in the self-pleasuring. But because my number has been registered on Telephone Preference Service (UK) for so many years, I sadly don't get the chance - and this is the same number that was printed on several thousand flyers when I was a club secretary! I can't claim the clothing question idea as my own - that came from a commenter on The Register many years ago - geeks know how to deal with frauds!
My mum had the exact same call, she was in tears reading out her national insurance number before I put two and two together and screamed “NOOOOOOO”.
DO NOT allow these calls to put pressure on you, if they supposedly have police ready to send… send them. They won’t arrive… because they do not exist.
It is everyone’s duty, to bring awareness to these scam calls… the amount of suicides relative to vulnerable people being manipulated like in this video, it truly makes me feel sick. Death to all scammers.
Last time this happened I asked the caller if his mother knew how he made a living...... turns out he was from Conservative central office.....
It’s probably Sunak’s Misses.
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Oh well; Boris' bunch are a load of scam artists anyway...
They're all fraudsters too
When a scammer calls like that tell them you are a practitioner of Voodoo and that they may never see the next day. How quick they hang up.
I got called by one of these scammers. Led him up the garden path, when he realized he called me a "Mother F%^&er" and hung up on me. Rude or what?
that's definitely the HMRC you had there then
Loved it. They tried to scam me. I also had a scammer from Sportify. They must think we are so thick. This gave me a huge smile. Nice one.
Unfortunately, enough people really ARE thick (though perhaps gullible/ foolable would be a kinder word), to make it worth the scammers time.
While driving to work a few weeks ago in Dublin I had a call from a UK number and a lady with an American accent informed me that she was from Irish Revenue & Customs. People should realise that a real tax official would know your tax number. Anyway real officials don't conduct business like that over the phone.
We get this in the US constantly, more so around tax time. I just hang up. Unfortunately, older people do fall for it.
Not this older person. I just tell them to put me in court and then I hang up. 😉
I used to work in the enforcement department of HMRC. By the time things got to court (and Crown Court is only ever after an arrest for and charge of fraud and no longer in Enforcement's hands) there would no longer be any calls. Why call during bankruptcy proceedings? For amounts less than £5,000 it went out to, then, bailiffs and now commercial debt enforcement companies.
I had these scammers call me. They asked for my full address and so I gave them the Russian Embassy address in London. Then they asked for my sort code which I gave them as HMRC sort code. The line went dead after that.......cannot think why? 😂
No one at HMRC talks like that.
I keep them talking making they feel like they are getting something and then give them the HRMC sort code and bank number. Always makes me laugh.
Simple way to check your tax, go to the Government gateway, set up access, you will need your personal details and National Insurance Number, its all there and instantly gives details of your tax for the current and previous two years. Payment for under payment can be made from there directly and yes they will not ring you ever.
Exactly same call I had from this scammer and same voice. This idiot didn’t know I work for HMRC. 🤣
I always ask if their parents are proud of what they do for a living
It will fall on deaf ears these people aren't human.
Many wouldn't care. It's about providing for the family, plus many don't particularly like Westerners.
I got a call as well but I quickly hang up and block these numbers. These scammers don’t know when to stop 🤦🏾♀️
Just tell them no need to carry on with the conversation you'll just wait for the court papers to arrive.
Tax Authorities typically don't call, certainly not to inform pending enforcement. Just say "I'll wait for the written Notice in the mail. My Tax Attorney will deal with it". The end.
I love these calls. I worked in Customs for 20 years. It's a hoot.
even better when you actually work for HMRC and got a call like this lol
Fair play for spinning them on. My take is that the more time they spend on me the less time they have to work on the vulnerable.
Easy to identified scammer...obviously from their accent. Like this scammer 😂
When I get these calls, I ask in Welsh, (which I can speak), if they can speak Welsh, this goes on for a couple of minutes, then they hang up, no doubt fuming.
It's great getting scam calls it's great giving them shit down the phone
What a bloody scam. Please be careful who you talk to on the phone. There are a lot of nasty scammers out there.
👏👏👏👏👏🥰 well done Sir!!!!
Scammers are so ruthless.
I had the same call, scammers pretending to be HMRC. I asked them to send me the paperwork, then I got suspicious. HMRC or anyone don’t cold call anyone. I reported the number to BT.
Sadly ,,, I never get calls like this 🇬🇧
They certainly lose it to when you tease 'em...
I have had cold callers and people like this scammer calling me for years. They once annoyed me, and 'got under my skin'. Nowadays before they can speak and with the call centre audibly in the background my opening line to them is to gently say 'I think you have got a wrong number'. This confuses them because because usually that phrase is is used by people who pick the phone up more than people who ring others. Often they put the phone down soon after, though the more intent scammers will be harder more resistant to politeness.
I had a text message saying I have committed 5 criminal offenses and that I had to contact a phone number and talk to somebody about it or pay a fine at a website. I sent a text saying you have got the wrong number and nobody is at home anyway.
I had this tried on me twice, I live in sheltered accommodation,75, the thing that tipped me off was it was an Indian voice and I could hardly tell what they were saying.Also Iv been retire a while and aren’t well of enough to have to pay income tax on anything, so I told them I would report the call to the police and sod off!. The thing is there are some vulnerable people who would give away vital information out of fear.👿😡
Have u noticed most of have an lndian accent.
'HMRC, in a court, London.' - brilliant 😂
His accent gave it away
That was amazing! Speechless.
It sounded like the guy said he was calling from a GOAT house. An HMRC GOAT house in London, no less! Unless he was just KIDding,
That put down in the end, well done!
I get very good results from telling the caller "Calls to this number will be recorded for training or security purposes, and may be used in court" - that is invariably followed by "CLICK" as the caller, invariably with an Indian accent, hangs up
I once kept one talking for a few minutes then said "I have to inform you that our system shows you have not been permitted to contact this secure line. Your number has now been traced and our officers are on their way to you. Do not make any attempt to leave your premises." And hung up.
Scammers' Bankers should be charged for assisting them to Launder their fraudulently obtained money
Anytime I hear an Indian voice on my phone I only have 2 words - pretty universal in any langauge.
We think the same, well done.👏👏👏
Fair play to you mate I get these kind of calls most days , really annoying.
This recording is " borrowed", isn't it?
This was originally broadcast on the Radio 4 Moneybox programme
, captured by a reporter who managed to record it.
Since when have HMRC been outsourcing to Indian call centres ?
I use to get scanners saying they were phoning from Microsoft. My son and I use to have so much fun with them: The one time, I thanked them profusely for phoning and told them that I was very depressed and welcomed the opportunity to chat to them. Another time, my son and I asked if they would listen to a song and we sang to them. Another time we played a long with them but in a very over the top manner. So the joke was on them. But on a more serious note, 15 or so years ago, some 10 000 pounds was removed from my Citibank account to an account in Thailand, from where it was withdrawn and the account closed. While it took 3 weeks, Citibank eventually re-imbused me.
Adam, I think you will find that they are not scanners… they are actually scaMMers.
@@leeoz9615 Yip yip
bloke with thick Indian accent phones up
"im from HRMC "
me
"fuck off "
thats a true story
in Sicily the victims would have organized a visit to these swindlers by sending a couple of boys to their house. they wouldn't do it anymore. Greetings from Italy
"This recording is going to be played in the goat's house." 😁