Pretty awesome video, just felt like I was sitting with you guys, nice and easy… I might get the pack as I find creating kicks the most soul destroying thing lol thanks
Thanks for this! Re. Kick Tuning... easy to understand why eg you might want to finish a kick lower than an 'A'. Not so easy to understand how the pitch can sweep down through and below your bass fundamental without the phases clashing. Lowering bass volume can help but won't fix 180 degree clashes. Is it worth eg. removing the fundamental from the 2nd 16th? Or nudging the kick phases so they roughly align as you fade up the 2nd 16th with an LFO? _||_
I think the point is you’re never going to get the kick tail perfectly in phase with the first note using this method - you just get it the best you can get it :)
It’s a genre that doesn’t grab my heart as it did in my 20s, but I love the approach to it and I try make it here and there. The first two 16ths and getting that right is my kinda OCD.
Loved it, thanks for the insight guys! Would love to know more about how you would go about mixing a track - do you write it first and then focus on the mix or mix as you go along?
Im sorry guys but I dont understand why people use kick 2 as its in 16 bit up to 24 bit sample rate Ableton run at 32bit minimum someone need to explain me this, im trying to stay away from sample base plugins, its similar with serum most sample in the contenent vat inside the system run 16 bit to 24 bit sampling rate, that mean Ableton. I like to use Bazz fror my kick, im pretty sure is full on Fm.
I'm pretty sure you're confusing 2 separate concepts. Kick 2 is one of the, if not the best kick synthesizers out there. Otherwise they wouldn't use it.
Great video. Really appreciate the insight and knowledge shared. Any chance we could get a similar video, but where you talk about kick & bass correlation in melbourne bounce and slap house? The principles are the same, but these genres usually play around 128 bpm, which means the kick can be longer, and therefore maybe the kick tuning will matter more? For instance in melbourne bounce the beat is divided in 2, where the kick plays the first half beat, then the off beat bass plays the second half. So does kick tuning matter here? Would it still be beneficial with a shorter kick, to give time for the sub from the kick to fade away before the bass hits, or should the kick be as long as possible in this case, since it's not clashing with any other low end frequencies? Sure, some of it is just taste and etc. but it would be very interesting to see professionals discuss these things and give their opinion. Slap house probably is quite similar to psy trance, since you want the bass to come in not so long after the kick, and the kick will be more of a punchy transient thing rather than a boomy tonal bass instrument. Again, would be cool to see you discuss different options here, with long kicks vs short kicks, and for instance in melbourne bounce, using a kick in F vs G, and so on. Also how loud the sub should be compared to the kick. Thanks.
@@kidkosmik.official I found it. But yes, the official site was not available. Sideinfo: It is not working cause you need a license. You need to own at least one vengeance product to get it free. I would think about Avenger, but I already have too much synths... :)
I engage in a little DIY but I don't have enough free time to learn to produce everything from scratch . These samples are great resources that facilitate the actual music composition and arranging and actually getting down to business as opposed to a long drawn out process. All styles of music have specific technical requirements in order to sound legit and this type of professional guidance improves on the workflow. Much appreciated, Thanks 🎉🎉🎉
Yep, any kick can be modified for any BPM. The Pulses transients would be the most useful part, and how you modify the tails for slower music is completely depending on the material.
Perfect kick and bas balance and yet it sounds like anything else out there, which shows you that originality is stronger than engineering. Think about finding an old recording from Johnny Cash, nobody would cry over kick not sitting right. But don't get me wrong, I still appreciate the information in this video.
I am truly curious, how many times did you experience this "wave cancellation at a club situation"?
Thank you guys! Bring it on!!! i can't replay to "tune your kick" emails anymore! Thank you very much!
Analytical, technical and opend minded. Gives a good set of rules without taking space for individual desicions. Just great content. Big ups!
Ady is the best he taught me alot
these kicks kinda look like buttplugs
- great tutorial as well!
So many ah hah moments! Hearing your thoughts here was ridiculously insightful. Thanks so much for putting this out!!
Pretty awesome video, just felt like I was sitting with you guys, nice and easy… I might get the pack as I find creating kicks the most soul destroying thing lol thanks
12:28 is it used in house music too? to avoid the attack of the click to phase out the kick? i tried it in a trance project seems to work good.
Lets make a track together??
Thanks for this! Re. Kick Tuning... easy to understand why eg you might want to finish a kick lower than an 'A'. Not so easy to understand how the pitch can sweep down through and below your bass fundamental without the phases clashing. Lowering bass volume can help but won't fix 180 degree clashes. Is it worth eg. removing the fundamental from the 2nd 16th? Or nudging the kick phases so they roughly align as you fade up the 2nd 16th with an LFO? _||_
I think the point is you’re never going to get the kick tail perfectly in phase with the first note using this method - you just get it the best you can get it :)
More videos are always welcome.. about the kicks our any other subject with this two legends
Very nice video. Instantly motivates me to work on my kick synthesis although I do not create them with Kick2^^*
Thank you guys
Thanks this very helpful for understanding making kicks ! God bless you eternally 😊
Futurephonic and Kick2 looks a little to similar are they related in anyway ? , thanks for your brainstorming video
Hey, Pulses V1 included a custom Futurephonic skin. Thanks for watching!
guys, I cannot say how much this tutorial has helped me, please do some more on other aspects, myths!, peace out
Thanks for letting us know!
thank you so much to share this for free with us S2!!!
Absolute TOP LEVEL! Thank you so much for sharing your insights! Not sire if it's ok to ask here, but do you guys teach/do zoom? Cheers,
Bourian
It’s a genre that doesn’t grab my heart as it did in my 20s, but I love the approach to it and I try make it here and there. The first two 16ths and getting that right is my kinda OCD.
Enlightening thanks guys! Really good to seee in depth tutorials from producers that know their stuff and make great tunes
Im still use bazzism 😂 clunky envelopes but nice overall…
THANK YOU ❤️ this has always kinda been my personal hurdle
Loved it, thanks for the insight guys! Would love to know more about how you would go about mixing a track - do you write it first and then focus on the mix or mix as you go along?
Thanks so much I shuffle between 86 and 172 this was helpful
Awesome stuff! But - Why don't you adjust the exact length in ms, using the ms slider at the bottom?
Anging the slider affects all envelopes and in this case he doesn't want to change the pitch, only the length
Im sorry guys but I dont understand why people use kick 2 as its in 16 bit up to 24 bit sample rate Ableton run at 32bit minimum someone need to explain me this, im trying to stay away from sample base plugins, its similar with serum most sample in the contenent vat inside the system run 16 bit to 24 bit sampling rate, that mean Ableton.
I like to use Bazz fror my kick, im pretty sure is full on Fm.
I'm pretty sure you're confusing 2 separate concepts. Kick 2 is one of the, if not the best kick synthesizers out there. Otherwise they wouldn't use it.
It sounds like you’re misunderstanding sample rates. Don’t worry about it, if a 16 bit sample sounds fine then it is fine.
Great video. Really appreciate the insight and knowledge shared. Any chance we could get a similar video, but where you talk about kick & bass correlation in melbourne bounce and slap house? The principles are the same, but these genres usually play around 128 bpm, which means the kick can be longer, and therefore maybe the kick tuning will matter more? For instance in melbourne bounce the beat is divided in 2, where the kick plays the first half beat, then the off beat bass plays the second half. So does kick tuning matter here? Would it still be beneficial with a shorter kick, to give time for the sub from the kick to fade away before the bass hits, or should the kick be as long as possible in this case, since it's not clashing with any other low end frequencies? Sure, some of it is just taste and etc. but it would be very interesting to see professionals discuss these things and give their opinion. Slap house probably is quite similar to psy trance, since you want the bass to come in not so long after the kick, and the kick will be more of a punchy transient thing rather than a boomy tonal bass instrument. Again, would be cool to see you discuss different options here, with long kicks vs short kicks, and for instance in melbourne bounce, using a kick in F vs G, and so on. Also how loud the sub should be compared to the kick. Thanks.
Hey Rich, we wrote an article on this, check it out :-) www.futurephonicpress.co.uk/post/tuning-kicks
Enlightening video. Makes me appreciate the nuance writing for different keys, tempos and bass lines involves.
Cheers for this!
I think this studio is near an elementary/primary school. I can hear children playing in the background.
Great vídeo .. really helpfull
Great tutorial... Thx learnt so much... Filing thiz one to come back to...
yeah lets make old-school goa/Nitzo kick and make it dull XD
cant find scope vst. seems not to br available anymore :(
Try psyscope
@@stelthtenau i have it ;)
@@kidkosmik.official I found it. But yes, the official site was not available. Sideinfo: It is not working cause you need a license. You need to own at least one vengeance product to get it free. I would think about Avenger, but I already have too much synths... :)
_Futurephonic solving my weekend woes yet again.
Such a great tutorial! Simple and straightforward as should be! Understood quite a lot about kicks, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Dope Video guys❤️🔥👌🏽🎶🔊
I engage in a little DIY but I don't have enough free time to learn to produce everything from scratch . These samples are great resources that facilitate the actual music composition and arranging and actually getting down to business as opposed to a long drawn out process. All styles of music have specific technical requirements in order to sound legit and this type of professional guidance improves on the workflow. Much appreciated, Thanks 🎉🎉🎉
Awesome, so glad to hear that! Happy new year from Futurephonic
Dont Tune your Kicks. A Kick is a Transient. It needs to Punch. Tune your Bass and not your Kicks.
a kick has harmonic body, not only transient (that would be the click of the kick)
Great class room!! Thank you guys!
Hi! I got the preset pack! Amazing stuff! I wonder if I can use the kicks also for psychill music, (80-110 BPM) by adjusting the length..? Thanks!
Yep, any kick can be modified for any BPM. The Pulses transients would be the most useful part, and how you modify the tails for slower music is completely depending on the material.
" dual sh1t filters " , always great results lol
Awesome guys tum tss tum tss tum ! yeah!
thanks cool
12:07 Holy
Danny boy. 🙌🏻
Godsend
Scorbgod!
Legends!!
nice!
That "Pulses" plugin is Kick 2 with a customized GUI, right?
Yep, Pulses is the name of their Kick 2 pack and we made a custom GUI that you get with your download :-)
@@FuturephonicEducation Nice, I could see on that link in Description...
10 on 10 video, hands down!
Thanks!
Is there a difference in sound engine when I use Reason instead of Ableton or Cubase?
no
@@nofood1 this is not true and a widespread myth
very good
Thanks very much!
its look like bud plug :DD
nice observation and actually true, that shape kicks ass, literally (:
all this remembered me of: ua-cam.com/video/OJ1-HS06k5A/v-deo.html
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl This is :DDDD the end of the world :DDDDD ROFL man
Any chance of a modular class? is that yours Ady?
The modular is Hugo's (Antispin / Octognoma). He's your man when it comes to the modular madness :)
Perfect kick and bas balance and yet it sounds like anything else out there, which shows you that originality is stronger than engineering. Think about finding an old recording from Johnny Cash, nobody would cry over kick not sitting right. But don't get me wrong, I still appreciate the information in this video.
You’re comparing Johnny cash and psytrance. Psytrance by foundation needs to be perfectly produced especially at bass level.