The Next Generation of Striking: Japanese Hammer Strikes
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2023
- 2:21 - 1. Ascending Lead & Rear Hammer
3:17 - 2. Rear Direct Hammer - Lead Internal Hammer - Rear Internal Hammer
4:53 - 3. 12-6 Direct Hammer
5:37 - 4. Ascending Lead Hammer - Rear Internal Hammer
6:08 - 5. External Hammer
6:32 - Failed Attempts
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Very well explained. This technique is common amongst most traditional styles. The up to down angle really allows you to use gravity to your advantage as well for striking or clearing something out of your way for a strike of your own.
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The reason why you see it in traditional styles is that it's a safer way to strike bare handed, something that traditional martial arts had to take into consideration, while modern gloved combat sports don't hold much consideration for.
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@keion_arknights True, and it translates well to weaponry and without weaponry.
It also looks like a bolo punch in FMA since it mimics the swing of a machete@@MMAShredded
Fighters with height and reach advantage should definitely utilize these striking variations more. It’s nice to see competitive mixed martial arts continue to evolve and break down barriers. Time for the hammer fist era!
trueee!!
Hammer time!
Traditional karate hand techniques are "making a come back"
Haito, shuto, seiken, uraken tetui, ippoken, nukite, kumade, oyaken ect get used all the time from striking to grappling
And all the traditional blocks can be translated to both sports as well.
I think ramsay dewey talked about this a while ago too
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What a great video. Started following Tritac's channel months ago and have recommended it to family and friends. I'm amazed at how much of a good teacher Professor Matt is. Training in person with him must be a great experience. Thanks for sharing, Jeff!
thanks for watching!!
I've sadly had to use this in the past while being restrained by one person and unable to throw a hook or straight with my right arm. It was the perfect (limited available motion) technique to get me out of a rough spot. Very useful technique for all sorts of situations.
I'm pretty good at throwing these because we used to train them so much in traditional martial arts. But in sparring I mostly revert to all the standard stuff everyone else is doing as to not weird anybody out, lol. I should play around with these strikes more.
Never be afraid to use unorthodox (legal ofc) techniques my friend!
Oh man this is like a big part of FMA. I've been using hammerfists to peel people's blocks open in controlled boxing/kickboxing spars.
cheers!
Kevin Holland's hammer fists are so fun to watch in his UFC matches. Just like Jeff explains, the off-angle catches most people off guard.
Wow. I'm trying some of these tonight. Great content as always, thanks Jeff!
Really great video, Jeff! Really loved your editing too - really smooth having the explanations over your sparring footage!
thank you!!!!
Wow! That was awesome Jeff!! It was great to see you using them in your sparring and landing (and not lol) with them. It was a pleasure to do this video with you and look forward to having you back!
thanks for the lesson professor!
@@MMAShredded Hammer fist in, Back fist out.
@@MMAShredded or scooping backfist (intercepting fist) as a follow up, from that inside upward hammer.
Next video: Ryu's Hadoken in Sparring
Awesome job Coach Jeff. Evolution and growth is the name of the game. The Hammer strike has been used in Sanda and our Shaolin style for a long time. I love this channel 🤙🤙🤙🙏
thank you!!!!!
We practice this but with bladehand cycling through the center line between the guarding hands of opponent, or when angle is changed, switch to neck or jaw cheek area as atemi practice and sparring. Great seeing your exchange with Tritac, he is great 😊👊
cheers!!
It's such a great idea for all the point fighters as well, due to the quickness and effectiveness of the technique.
¡Keep up the good work man!💪🏻
:) thx!
Very neat on how they came about using the hammer strikes. My HEMA group does the same thing and we practice hammer strikes in are empty hand fighting as well.
I will say its interesting that here seems to focused on more up and down movement (which is really cool. I never would have thought to uppercut with a hammer strike) whereas we use more side to side like strikes to the temples, sides of neck, or collar bone
I'm a big advocate of the cross guard + hammerfist ; love it !
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Such a great and underutilized technique outside of traditional environments. Also, cool approach tapping into our primal instincts.
Very interesting Jeff!! I'll give it a try on Monday 👊 Cheers for now 🙏
:) cheers!
Super cool!!! Can’t wait to see you in Tokyo next week!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
cant wait man!
yes i always thought this would work! I have tried it out for years and it always surprises people but now i will have more confidence in it
Outstanding video 💪💪
Thanks!!
Gonna try them today in sparring! thanks !
Glad to see people are realizing techniques from some traditional styles of Kung Fu actually work. eg strikes from styles like Choy Lay Fut.
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Very interesting video. As stated by some commentators, this doesn't seem like a power shot but another off-angle strike that forces movement from the opponent or they risk being jammed or having line of sight obscured. This is something I bet you'd see Jiri Prochaszka practicing. Great vid as always Jeff!
I would be cautious in using it as anything other than a set up or scoring strike as the risk of a break of the 5th metacarpal is quite high. Especially if striking the skull. It is definitely something that would land because of the unconventional angle and look of the strike.
thanks man!!!
I feel this Hammer technique works more as a feint or set up as you said. More of a strategy punch than a power punch
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solutions:
-be careful of what bone/area you strike
-conditioning the hand
-you don't have to put too much force in if you're only hitting certain areas of the head
@@kpsiex Well yes of course, to all of those points, but there are heavy caveats to all of them. (I state this with no malice by the way)
1) even the most precise striker cannot always predict the movement of their opponent, especially if throwing a strike they may have never seen before. Their reaction may hit a part you weren't intending to hit in the path of the strike.
2) This can only take your body so far as there are many instances of broken hands in training camps with full size gloves on let alone the smaller 4 oz. gloves of MMA. It would decrease the risk but it is still a small thin bone at much higher risk of fracture. This is even more true when you change the force from compression, like in a normal punch, to a bending force when striking with the side of the fist. Bending or shear forces are the ones most likely to break a bone and those are the forces applied when using this strike.
3) The most vulnerable areas in a fight are not easily struck by using this part of the fist as it requires an unnatural adjustment at the shoulder and elbow and allows the loss of force as the joints become unstacked. The only natural movement for this part of the fist is a downward strike with a small window to change the angle of attack.
AKA, you'd have to try hard to get this part of your fist to hit a vulnerable area as the only area readily accessible by this angle is the top of the head.
Another disadvantage;
4) The Flexor digiti and Abductor digiti muscles form a pad when the hand is closed into a fist. While this is good for protecting the 5 metacarpal, it also dissipates the force generated by the strike. So even when not gloved, it is a padded strike.
I'm not stating this strike has no value, far from it actually. It's just not one to be used outside of set ups, point scoring, or a clearing strike.
Two strikes that are used where this is advantageous would be the hammer fist and the spinning back fist.
The first provides more power because it's being thrown in the natural plane this side of the hand would need to hit first in a stationary position.
The second is powered by a rotation, where again, this part of the hand strikes first but the body needs to spin to gain that power. A regular back fist isn't that powerful because the kinetic chain is much shorter if you want to keep your eyes on your opponent.
I've been doing it in my mma striking for a while and I love it. It's a great shop to sneak in and catch someone off guard in combos. There is an element of decision-making involved in picking between a punch and a hammer first that you need to train and play around with. The way I throw it is usually pretty tight, it starts the same as my punches so it's hard to see what's coming. You basically just don't turn the punch over, that way if I have the opening to land a big shot I can just make it a punch instead.
But the only time I can practice is on the bag, usually double-end, and sparring cos people teach boxing or kick where you have to strike with the knuckles. That's another reason I like MMA.
cheers!!
Wow! Next level! Thanks for sharing! 👍
no prob!
Hmmmm. I'm trying this in my switch stance combos. Thank you sir.
Very interesting and creative. Will definitely play around with the concept
As you should
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Love seeing new striking techniques and it made me laugh when you hit the top of the head with these hammerstrikes. These kind of techniques are often seen in Traditionnal Chinese martial arts aswell. You should try them. Nice video as usual Jeff keep it up !😁
heheh :) thanks!
Panuntukan/Dirty Boxing got them too
i think a key component is the biomechanics of the the hammer strike being thrown. the angles are unfamiliar yes but you also throwing from the elbow where it stands. it doesnt have the maximum power of throwing with your shoulder or whatever but it does have a shorter range to travel so it reaches the target faster.
Holy I've been using cross guard & dustin porier guard in sparring, already found the hammer jab naturally. But these are beautiful!
Fun fact hammer fist is some of the first few strikes a karateca learns cause of its versatility and power you can get away hitting as hard as possible cause the fist is balled up and the contact point is in a way preconditioned hammer fist also known as kensui and tettsui uchi is one of karates most powerful strikes pretty cool to see people adopt it into their game 🎯😁
sweet!!!
Love it!
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Great video once again Kind Warrior 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼I have always used them on sparring 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪💪💪💪once a young boxeur hated me so much for this 🤣🤗🤗🤗🥊
It's so Awesome to learn different techniques from varios martial arts disciplines🔥🔥 Awesome vid🔥🔥
:)) thanks!
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I love those low kicks to end those hammer strike combos
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Hey Jeff, you should check out Choy lai fut gung fu. It's kind of similar. A lot of hammer fist type movements.
Awesome Video! When I was training in FMA I learned to do hammerfists standing. I was able to land it a lot in sparring but I stopped cuz I wasn't sure if it was able to knock someone out while standing cuz I didn't know anyone who knocks people out or causes harm with these strikes when standing. I'm glad you guys explained some examples and showed sparring footage of this being used. Just curious do you know more examples of standing hammer strikes being used effectively in fights?
im not knowledgeable in it but professor Mathew Bryers may know!
I’ve tried a little wrestling and a bit of boxing but I wanted to say thanks for motivating me to start jiu jitsu I love it and best of luck with all you do Jeff! 🙏🏾
Number 1 is the "Cus D. Amato" Jab (tho it might outdate him) he taught Floyd Patterson and Tyson. You can see him use it on Ali in a demo video that they did. You can make it tighter and corkscrew it or keep it wider and flick it like a backfist like Jeff
THIS IS SO FRESHLY NEW WAY to spar… I looove it 🎉🎉
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Oh my it's good to be back watching Jeff video💪💪
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Been doing this for a while 🔥 happy to see it’s finally getting some exposure.
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When I was younger, I once used a downwards hammerfist straight to the face in a bareknuckle fight. His nose wouldn't stop bleeding and he had two teeth through his lip. That one strike ended the fight. It definitely works.
Cheers!
I'm aware of Tri-tac jiujitsu and some of these techniques, but honestly I don't think I gave them enough credence. Seeing you demonstrate them in sparring has given me much more confidence that they could actually work. Maybe I should have been a bit more open minded eh?
Great video Jeff I'll definitely give them a try in kickboxing!
thanks man! definitely go check them out again!
might actually try this in a sparring sesh..
interestng
Ha used to do that in karate tournaments in the 80’s/90’s
I'm pretty sure you could use these techniques as striking entries to tie up.... Seems good!
Xiong Jing Nan from ONE Championship uses these often
sweet!!!!c didnt know that
I love it !
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Interesting technique and very effectively… love new tools added to stand up game…
cheers!!
Used in ancient Greek MMA style called pankration. It works great in bare knuckle.
What does it feel like to get hit by them? It seems like it would hurt in sparring considering it is often the forearm of the glove that lands.
A style that makes great use of the hammer strike is Choy Li Fut
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@@MMAShredded does that mean future video?
They really do work. I just used them tonight in sparring. Its a sensical strike. Its used on the ground so why not create the angle on the feet for it to work?
It looks so wacky but I can instantly see how it would throw off defense and timing.
Love it, I'm big on 52 blocks and Cross guard and it is great for setting these up. IDK if it's allowed in boxing though?
not sure but it def allowed in ma!!
jeff these hammer strikes are also used by the filipino martial arts called yaw-yan which are called bolo punches or "arnis de mano"
cool!
Cool breakdown. Tim Tackett, who learned Jeet Kune Do from Dan Inasanto while Bruce Lee was still alive, long advocated the hammerfist as a safer alternative to the backfist. (He was concerned about breaking your knuckles with a backfist if you didn't have gloves on).
When i was Little hammerfists were the only thing i utilized to defend myself from my older Brother or other kids, It felt sooo much more natural. Definetly gonna try em in sparring
Very under-utilised.
yes!
Interesting options. Ive used some similar strikes.
One recommendation to protect your hand is try landing using the forearm bone just above the wrist. It's like how muay thai uses the shin instead of the foot when kicking. Got the idea from Bas Rutten.
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thank you!!!
Awesome I am a Kung Fu practitioner and attacks like these are common and I have been looking all over youtube to find people using them in practical application ie sparring. Unfortunately the only examples we have ourselves are just forms being demonstrated and unless we see how a person reacts to such an attack how are we to troubleshoot and learn from it. It makes me smile that people are recognizing the traditional styles are legit and these wide variety of attacks are being used again.
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chow gar mantis kung fu and most southern mantis kung fu, it's just basic to them. But you need to condition the hand to use or to use it, I guess in the ring with gloves on not such an issue. Bit like bare knuckle boxing is very different from standard boxing as you need to protect your hands.
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thx!!
I always wondered why these aren’t used more since they have an odd angle of entry and they lead well into collar ties.
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Dude! Awesome stuff! I gotta practice! LOL I guess keeping tucked elbows helps prevent injury and counters?
thanks man!! tucking elbow makes it more powerful
Yeah! I see now! thanks Sir!
I own a few Tritac videos. They’re nice with it.
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Stop! Hammer time!
Great video!
thanks!!
It’s interesting to think about how mma is still a pretty new sport and that with time the sport will only evolve further. It will be a long time before we see mma reach it’s true potential.
cheers!
Amongst thirty years of Martial Arts I did 2 years in the 90s in Southern Mantis which specialises in hammerfists. We used to train by hitting motorcycle helmets and spar wearing them. Crazy. There's a lot to be said for it, I'm not sure it was my go to in door work (I can't remember a single hammer fist) but you could use it quite viably and now as an older fella with damaged cartilage in my wrists it's quite appealing (though to be honest in a fight I'd rather just use trusted fists and worry about cartilage later than try something that might not be devastating against an opponent).
This is huge
My sparring partner has been using the hammer strike, it’s been hard to deal with lol
I tried this out in sparring for the first time today, and I am 1000% sold on hammer strikes. I probably landed half a dozen of them in the course of the round.
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two month update: throwing more hammers than ever, and my punching game is a completely different animal. I think this maybe the single best technique video on martial arts I've ever watched.
@@TheMightyMcClawGood job mate. Hammer strikes are unpredictable because almost nobody trains them, so nobody expects them!
Man, if that's a hammer strike, then I'd say that you nailed it
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You should look into Hung Gar and Baji ,they have a lot of such strikes,using forearms,hammerfist and topfists.
Very similar to what Thomas Hearns did with his hooks, where he would hit with the palm instead of the glove
Hey Jeff! Your popularity is growing here even in Korea! Can you show us your overhand set ups again please? It would be greatly appreciated
The hammer strikes are also used in kali alot.
Hi Jeff (I subscribed already), just asking if you could break down some techniques that you use step by step, rather than in one motion, so it’s easier for us to follow through 🙏
I wil see what I can do!
While ago my "sifu" in mantis kung fu said that this is also the most save for hand punch for self defense
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Northern or Southern? Do I see a fellow Tang Lang practitioner? Funny that two Mantis Boxers would be drawn to the same video.
Extremely fun and super exciting on getting more creative on striking techniques
Very curious, where are you located, love to spare with you. Please keep me in touch on your location.
Thanks Brother 🤛🏽🤛🏽🤜🏽🤜🏽👍🏽🙏🏽
thanks for watching!!
Hi Jeff, I follow you since a while and love your contents.
I notice that your camera has an hard time with autofocus. For information, camera like sony Alpha or like ZV1 can autofocus on eyes (so automatically). So you cannot miss to get a clean video even when you move.
Mark Munoz is smiling from ear to ear on this one 😊
One of those on the ear is gonna make someone pissed off during sparring. I’m definitely demoing it! 😂😂😂😂
llmaoooooo
Nice techniques to put off guard your opponent (that we also called point strikes in fighting). It doesn't seem like you could generate a ton of power to KO. And with strong pressing opponent such as a Mike Perry this could be counter-productive, What do u guys think?
if done correctly you can generate a lot of power, I did not do it with the best form as it was my first time trying it
spinning hammer fist my fave, hard for me to land tho. powerful
I love hammer strickes more than any strickes
Yea man, it's old school. It's a favorite in Southern kung fu systems.
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Looks very cool. Now in a real fight I would be scared to hurt my own hand/wrist on someones skull but in sparring it seems very fun to do.
knuckles would also hurt !
There are similar hammer strikes, inspired by techniques with weapons, in Yaw-Yan, an empty hand Filipino Martial Art. You can see it used in small local matches on UA-cam and Facebook.
cheers!
Same happens in the most famous Kung Fu Styles
Ive seen hearns land this way though i doubt it was intentional more so just him trying to be as aggresive with the right as he could be, Honestly yeah this could be a nice tool for taller more outboxy fighters ill be sure to test it out in sparring.
thats the Stockton slap bruh.
It doesn't seem like you could generate a ton of power on most of those and it's slow like a hook but the weird angles catch people off guard. I remember in Dustin Poirier VS Dan Hooker, Dustin was doing some hammer fists up against the fence when they were still both standing up.
The only person that I have seen to use this sometimes is Kevin Holland
Also, keep in mind that he is doing light sparring here
If you notice on some of the hammer strikes he's actually hitting with the forearm, which can be quite powerful.
hitting the neck really hurst!! I would say I was throwing them REALLY light, and also that my form isn't perfect as it's my first time trying. I would say they can cause a lot of damage if done correctly
Realize that how a Newbie / Amateur does things, is very different from a Masterclass level fighter. Longfist methods tend to use a Lot more FULL BODY MASS movements, and full body mass "Connection" (Body Mass Unity). So.. when that arm crashes into you.. its not just the mass and strength of the arm... It has the entire moving body mass power behind it. Of course, Jeff here, has not really been trained on how to do that. Hes often using short distance strikes, and most often only using his mere Arm power. And since he has never fully mastered Short Range Power... he will lack heavy / lethal impact potentials, within short distance strikes. Of course, hes also likely sparring with medium power levels... without the intention of using KO level forces.
I will add, that the other poster is also correct... in that the Hammerfist is not just a Fist Strike. It also can involve the Forearms, as well as the Sharp Bump of the Wristbone (instead of the flat fist).
Furthermore... to have even more potentials with such a strike... you really need to have a lot of sessions, hitting the Sand-Bags. This increased the bone and tissue density, as well as strengthens your internals.. from Fist to Foot. When combines with the proper deep breathing, you get true "Iron Fist" tissue developments... such as vastly Increased Bloodflow/Circulation. The tissues will slightly swell up, sort of like an Erection... filling with more heavily oxygenated blood. Since Liquids can not be compressed... this creates a sort of HYDRAULIC shielding effect... which both helps Protect you from Impacts, as well as Strengthens your own structure... allowing you to do far more Impact damages. A lot of this knowledge is completely LOST to the Newer generation of artists, and teachers. Most schools do not even teach the proper "Combat Breath" methods.... And let me tell you that MMA's "teeth hissing breath", is FAR inferior to the Real Deal.
I'd actually go the absolute opposite and say that a hammer-fist is probably the strike you can generate the most power with. It basically uses the same chain of power as throwing does, and that's the one physical move humans have down better than any other animal. It sure is comparably slow and you need to be pretty close to use it, but that's why you gotta try it out in sparring and figure out when to actually use it.
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Can you try to combine the hammers with those chain punches you do? Lol I’m trying to see something
Another great tool in the arsenal!! My only concern is, if used in sport fighting it may be controversial because the punch often lands in the back of the opponents head, which can DQ a fighter. But overall, as a fighting addition, it's a great option.
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