i noticed you never check what free eurekas you got from libraries, i would have thought that thats pretty important to know so you dont need to go for e.g. an armoury as early also, if you go internals anyways and have moksha 2, why not go straight for moksha 3 aswell especially with faith buying districts?
Herson, do you think it's worth going out of your way to get the inspiration for Feudalism? As Babylon, you might get enough Palgum value to justify 2 builders into 6 farms. I can see how this could be a significant tempo loss, but I was wondering if you know of you or anybody else attempting it at least.
mostly if you have Etemenanki. I had one game of babylon where I had a 7 tile floodplain+etemenanki and it was worth making a couple builders to improve it. If you try to force farms with little value you waste 10 builder charges (because you made 2 3 charge builders)
A Farm triangle in the lost Petra city would have helped quite a lot. Would still suck as a city, but would at least be a city. Could have a 4 farm cluster there at the north. Debatable if worth the worker charges, but I think it would be worth. GG .. very well played. nice content
probably not worth the worker charges. If you don't have decent workable tiles, no point in having food surplus to make population that just costs amenities
Hello Herson, I like your videos very much. I learned a lot of tips from them. Now I want to join CPL and start trying multiplayer games. If possible, could you please make a video on how to join CPL and play a team or ffa game? Thank you very much!
This kind of optimisation is really not a big deal. The fact that its a "hidden" mechanic and it involves "math" makes it looks like its way more than it is. Cause well, "hidden" mechanic (which are in the milion views on yt at this point) and counting to 6 or "math" are both ego inflating. But you can make it simple. You need an equal amount of districts completed than unlocked then you can discount a district you havent build yet. Use the empire lens (by default you press 9) to see your districts. If you want a guideline to apply it more easily. On a standard com hub game, you can get 3 com hub in your starter cities. Discount the plaza cause it ll be 3/3. With games and recreation thats 4/4, you can discount a campus. Thats 2 easy discount you can get, the third one is not hard either but it depends a bit more on how things goes for you. Just look at when you get iz and theaters. After that you ll need to pay more attention and most people wont bother but up to 6 disctricts unlocked its "mathematicaly" pretty simple to keep discounting. You have to keep in mind that the formula update on civic tech completion or settling a city. The issue is having the right pace to discount things, getting district completion and unlocks in line so you dont waste turns waiting for discount while district just get more expansive as you unlock more techs. Which is how you get good, not by learning how to discount but by having a proper pace (settle right cities, work and improve the right tiles, be on top of your amenities etc...) So all in all you can discount nothing and still do more than fine. There are more things you can do before ever bothering to discount anything. Anyways dont sweat it.
All formulas are invisble and arbitrary but good job on the key words. The issue of it is being unintuitive and has some weird twerks to it. And no the whole meta game doesnt revolve around discounting. Not like its hard to discount a few, but yet it doesnt matter as much as you think. You shove 3 turns worth of production in the best case. Thats really the least impactful optimisation you have to learn in this game.
@@dcreaper2943 You can get a 35% production discount on specialty districts base on the amount of districts unlocked, completed and placed. Herson has a video on it. In most cases, people ll discount 2/3 districts.
Why did you settle the Petra city in the second location rather than where you were going to settle originally? The original location seems like it would be a better Petra city: captures mode desert tiles, has access to those two desert hills on the east, and the elephants. Could you explain a bit?
Let’s go another Herson complaining about his spawn classic! Thank you for this top tier content!
Herson with districts: i need to wait a turn to discount, wait, one two three..
Herson with city placement: whatever
curse of the wide player
Babylon + Lady of reeds + Palgum + Water mill + Liang.
The palgum replaces the water mill, so you can't build water mills as Babylon
@@HersonCivok nerd
@@HersonCiv Oh well, back to the drawing board.
I love this extremely creative build. Would you be interested in trying it again? How might you play it differently?
i noticed you never check what free eurekas you got from libraries, i would have thought that thats pretty important to know so you dont need to go for e.g. an armoury as early
also, if you go internals anyways and have moksha 2, why not go straight for moksha 3 aswell especially with faith buying districts?
Cool idea to try out! By the way, it always amuses me to hear you pronounce specialty district like shpecialty dishtrict, it’s such a cute accent.
Imagine a world where auto explore exists 🤔
At the start, did you say "what SHOULD i do to deserve this?"
why is the quality so ass for a 1080p
Herson complaining about his spawn:
Me not having more than 3 2/2 tiles in my cap since last 8 games….
Herson, do you think it's worth going out of your way to get the inspiration for Feudalism? As Babylon, you might get enough Palgum value to justify 2 builders into 6 farms.
I can see how this could be a significant tempo loss, but I was wondering if you know of you or anybody else attempting it at least.
if you have an etemanki city its ok but outside of that.
mostly if you have Etemenanki. I had one game of babylon where I had a 7 tile floodplain+etemenanki and it was worth making a couple builders to improve it. If you try to force farms with little value you waste 10 builder charges (because you made 2 3 charge builders)
A Farm triangle in the lost Petra city would have helped quite a lot. Would still suck as a city, but would at least be a city. Could have a 4 farm cluster there at the north. Debatable if worth the worker charges, but I think it would be worth. GG .. very well played. nice content
probably not worth the worker charges. If you don't have decent workable tiles, no point in having food surplus to make population that just costs amenities
@@matsiv5707 if you want more districts, you don't really have a choice. Just increase your amenities.
I mean kings generally try to preserve power
can you add last day pro match you are playıng england
colosseum doesn't hit B2 madge
Herseon civ 7 interview?
it this BABY LONely?
Hello Herson, I like your videos very much. I learned a lot of tips from them. Now I want to join CPL and start trying multiplayer games. If possible, could you please make a video on how to join CPL and play a team or ffa game? Thank you very much!
Bro can someone PLEASE tell me how discount districts work
There's a video on the Channel m8
I think he got the timestamps wrong lol
ayyy babylon
clever start
How do I get good at Multiplayer civ without needing to have a calculator by my side to know district costs and hidden mechanics?
Big brain memory and a lot of play hours.
Make a tally mark list with two columns. It's super effective.
This kind of optimisation is really not a big deal. The fact that its a "hidden" mechanic and it involves "math" makes it looks like its way more than it is. Cause well, "hidden" mechanic (which are in the milion views on yt at this point) and counting to 6 or "math" are both ego inflating.
But you can make it simple. You need an equal amount of districts completed than unlocked then you can discount a district you havent build yet. Use the empire lens (by default you press 9) to see your districts.
If you want a guideline to apply it more easily. On a standard com hub game, you can get 3 com hub in your starter cities. Discount the plaza cause it ll be 3/3. With games and recreation
thats 4/4, you can discount a campus. Thats 2 easy discount you can get, the third one is not hard either but it depends a bit more on how things goes for you. Just look at when you get iz and theaters.
After that you ll need to pay more attention and most people wont bother but up to 6 disctricts unlocked its "mathematicaly" pretty simple to keep discounting. You have to keep in mind that the formula update on civic tech completion or settling a city. The issue is having the right pace to discount things, getting district completion and unlocks in line so you dont waste turns waiting for discount while district just get more expansive as you unlock more techs. Which is how you get good, not by learning how to discount but by having a proper pace (settle right cities, work and improve the right tiles, be on top of your amenities etc...)
So all in all you can discount nothing and still do more than fine. There are more things you can do before ever bothering to discount anything.
Anyways dont sweat it.
Harald thr Varangian
gib harald konge game pls c:
The fact that the whole metagame is based around some invisible aribtrary formula for district discounting is so cringe
can you elaborate on this? Newer to the game
All formulas are invisble and arbitrary but good job on the key words. The issue of it is being unintuitive and has some weird twerks to it.
And no the whole meta game doesnt revolve around discounting. Not like its hard to discount a few, but yet it doesnt matter as much as you think. You shove 3 turns worth of production in the best case. Thats really the least impactful optimisation you have to learn in this game.
@@dcreaper2943 You can get a 35% production discount on specialty districts base on the amount of districts unlocked, completed and placed. Herson has a video on it. In most cases, people ll discount 2/3 districts.
@@dcreaper2943it’s complicated.. Herson made a video about district discounting if you want to know more
Using brains is cringe
Why did you settle the Petra city in the second location rather than where you were going to settle originally? The original location seems like it would be a better Petra city: captures mode desert tiles, has access to those two desert hills on the east, and the elephants. Could you explain a bit?
weird game.
you should totally put some background music if possible
He totally shouldn’t. You can do that yourself
1:11:11 cool city name