the machinations of the Labour right within the Party have not been at all dull over the last 8 years, actually pretty riveting (if deeply disheartening) stuff.
@@mikewilson8513 who said I’m a Tory? I didn’t like any of them. I didn’t even bother voting. But if you think Starmer is the answer then I think you’re going to be in a for nasty surprise. Another wolf-in-sheep-clothing, just like Sunak. Not that there is much choice these days.
I have not been a fan of Keir Starmer in the past, but the contrast between his professionalism and the chaotic, self serving amateurism of the Tories is astounding. They should be in opposition for a generation.
You feel there’s no self interest in the Labour cabinet? I’d say Starmer, Rayner and Streeting have more in common with the Tories than differences no?
@jaybee4288 not to defend starmer or streeting in paticular but that is not what he said. The initial appointments are leagues ahead of recent tory appointments.
Why then has he appointed the disgraced and unelected Jackie Smith, after first awarding her a peerage. Didn't he slate Sunak for doing the same with David Cameron?
You mean his cabinet appoints that have required him to hand out life long peerages so that they could serve in the cabinet as they weren’t elected as MPs? Yeah nothing dodgy or Tory-like about that!
My father messaged me on Friday saying for the first time since the brexit vote that he genuinely felt the first shoots of hope for the country again. Brought tears to my eyes.
hope and optimism can drive a country forward building respect thats earned. Internationally we are looking better allready, see the tories could have made a difference but chose not to
@@timvella1817Yes, David Lammy. Are you seriously objecting to Lammy when past foreign secretaries included Johnson and Braverman, both of whom were proven security risks. Probably best to stop and think for a minute before posting your baseless objections.
@@timvella1817 Yes. Look who we've had before, just as a comparison, not that you need one you're obviously old enough to have lived through the last 8 foreign secretaries; Hauge, Hammond, Johnson, Hunt Raab, Truss, Cleverly, Cameron... and you're questioning David Lammy! Jesus, you set the bar low.
the problem is it's a self fulfilling prophecy all round people want politicians to all be the same, because that way it means they have less to think about politicians end up becoming corrupt because why bother, they'll think you are regardless, may as well make some money and there's less push to hold corruption accountable if you think they're all like that
"honest ones" - that's Starmer out then. Remember how he lied to the Labour membership in order to become leader in the first place, and then went on Andrew Marr's show and bragged how he'd lie to the country to become Prime Minister!
@@ziggarillooh no it’s not ! It’s important for our democracy that those corrupt criminals in the last regime are brought to justice, that includes Johnson for perjury. If we don’t the next conservative government will merely carry on as usual believing they’re above the law.
Fed up already of right wing commentators nostalgic about the ‘past’ and stating this government is already failing. Go home, look yourself in the mirror, feel shame, have a sleep for 5 years, come back better
fed up with left wing voters still unable to identify the difference between a man and a woman. The fight for women's rights. When you find some common sense come back.
I'm fed up already with the ring-wing commentary I see and hear in front of me watching this very video.... .... I take it that you have not read for Fordham Report or watched and listened to the Labour Files, then? But hey those aren't trustworthy right?? I mean it was reporting done by gasp non-'white' people EEEWWW egads how could anyone ever listen to THAT!? >.> Starmer is the most unprincipled and manifestly sociopathic politician I've seen in years; at *least* as much as Boris.
I'm more surprised by France. Just goes to show that social media influenced by the American alt right has no real influence, not even in their own country
Starmer’s speech was excellently delivered and of a quality that we have not heard from a PM for a long time. Over the last 6 months the shadow cabinet has been preparing for office in order to ensure there was no delay once they were elected, demonstrating their mature commitment to delivering Labour promises. A PM whose background has been predominantly in Human Rights law is a stark contrast to a PM whose background has been in offshore banking, tax havens and hedge funds.
I feel a sense of relief that the tories have gone. It's only now that I realise how awful they were. I feel cautiously optimistic. Starmer is saying all the right things but, as he said himself, he'll be judged by his actions, not his words.
Imagine the absolute confusion of every tory as they watch Starmer picking people who can do a job, to do the job. Doesn't he have mates to pay? Idiots in his party who need to be kept busy? What's all this professionalism supposed to be for?
You can probably pick holes here and there, but it's still better than having a list of people that Boris randomly bumped into in the mess hall at Eton in charge of everything.
The party is a very loose collection of differing viewpoints. Better they focus on the nation until they've proved themselves. An ideology fit for the 21st century does need sorting out, but this is not the time for cleaning house.
The image of Mogg, the “minister for Brexit Opportunities and government efficiency” stretched out across the benches in Westminster is still etched on my mind. How are you Brits still impressed with such pomp and arrogance ? He still got over 15,000 votes! The mind boggles, you need to work on your obsession with class. The empire is finished
Let’s move on. Mogg DIDN’T get elected again but instead suffered a humiliating defeat. Hope is something we haven’t had the chance to experience for 14 years so let’s enjoy this while we have the opportunity. Surely better than filling the mind with that lack of respect or empathy we have had to put up with for soooo long... Don’t give consent to those cookies.
The people of Devon/Cornwall voted for Brexit, and are among the most deprived places in the UK for the locals. Real lack of education and opportunities
You’re not wrong. We still have the fawning working class mentality in some places. The Tories LOVE these people-as far as votes are concerned, but laugh at them.
I can't bear hearing people say "sure they're all the same anyway". If there's one thing the last 14 years has taught us, it's the utter ridiculousness of that sentiment. Never forget.
I look forward to the 'accountability' phase ... I lost 6 friends to Covid, because of Johnson and Sunak; Sunak has been paid commission by Shell; massive amounts wasted on protective clothing in the pandemic, Rees Mogg defended enhanced capital allowances to oil companies, at a time he was a major investor in Shell.
It's hard to tell from Oz, but it looks like the UK is a happier place now. Here's hoping the new government will be able to clean up the Tory mess asap.
VERY early to be making such a bold claim, but I'm fairly confident this Labour government - and, in particular, its leader - won't be as corrupt or self-serving as the last 'lot'...!
Lets hope so, I won't hold me breath though. At least the media exposed the corruption of the Tories, if only they could have been prosecuted for it. This administration will enjoy much less scrutiny from the mainstream media.
es, Lord Lebedev of Siberia a long time tory and johnson donor. all the right wingers should be ashamed of the last 14 years! we will be ignoring them from now on, they have proven their utter incompetence
There has been so much corruption, incompetence, cruelty, depravity by the previous government, mostly . It needs listing and pointing at now and again, least we forget, because many only follow the cult of personality and have short memories .
It's the difference between having a government that only serves their own interests & those of their doners & a government that serves to best interests of the country as a whole.
Starmer's government is there to serve the interests of the rich and Israel while convincing idiots that they're serving the country just because the colour of the rosette on the policies has changed.
People were complaining kier Starmer is boring.... after the last 14 yrs Im all for the boring politics again. When people were not bombarded with atrocious parliamentary antics.
the first two days are a breath of fresh air they look so darned professional compared to their inept, corrupt opposition. The hollow words of "they have no plan" must be embarrassing as the Labour team have prepared well for the takeover, so much more optimistic for us all
Erm….what in the actual f*ck?! For one, he DID order a second lockdown though, and can you remember the CHAOS because people didn’t want it?! Can you remember how much of an absolute TANTRUM everyone threw?! Lord above, people have memories of a fish!
And why is anyone bothered about who is the next tory party leader,, i mean mug to be controlled by the party.. i really couldn't care, the whole party is even more irrelevant now then ever.
We should care, the future of the Tory party could be quite terrifying. When Labour doesn't deliver anything meaningful the Tory party, or Reform or both could be back in power and make the last 14 years seem like fun by comparison. Labour actually got less votes than in the 2019 election, this is a house of cards.
@fiver4249 fk me your cheerful . They only just came back into power buddy,, give em chance eh,, they got 14 years worth of shi£ to undo so that's no mean feat in itself. Chill.🤣..as for the reform and torys I couldn't give a flying fk about them either, chill out .
@@paul8161 Maybe you should do some homework, find out exactly what just came into power. Clement Attlee it is not. Also you might give an f if you find they end up in power because too many people decided we should just 'chill'. Democracy has been dangerously eroded already in case you hadn't noticed.
Be careful. In terms of seats, it looks like a landslide-but that’s only because of your strange election system. In votes, it’s nothing that one period of great expectations and mediocre performance can’t easily reverse. That’s what awaits my country, much unfortunately. People expect miracles of Starmer’s government and the most enthusiastic will inevitably be disappointed.
@@upsidedownnoise appointing an ex-teacher as a junior minister in the dept of education, certainly not the worst choice tbh. I bet you were cheering Boris on when he gave his speech last week?
When the tory press bleat, I ask people to remember the achievements of Gove, Truss, Porridge Johnson, Gavin Williamson & Zahawi & their idiotic supporters.
@@georgebain5734 She resigned for E-mailing a gov document to people outside of Government she didn't own up she was found out if that's guts then you can have her
When the people rise up & demand the end of privatising profits & socialising costs, will we see real progression to a more caring, understanding & empathetic society. Biggest con in the history of the world how conservatives convinced the least able to pay to vote for their greed through cultural outrage.
A long awaited new dawn which I will support wholeheartedly. Wouldn’t it be brilliant if the present government could solve most of Britain’s problems and deny the Conservatives/Reform government again next time round🙏
We have a government interested in serving the nation, that alone in this country is a revelation. Then you look at the appointments he’s made outside of MPs, people with real substance and regardless of their political persuasion. This makes me optimistic and Christ knows this country needs some.
I recall early in Blair’s government (within 100 days) in PMQs, Blair gave a speech (i don’t remember the details) but the jist was … “ We said we were going to do “X”, and we have done it. We said we were going to do “Y” and we have done it, and on and on in the same vein. At which point, i thought “OK, these guys DO deserve credit” as you can’t ask anyone to do more than publish a plan, and then implement it exactly.
If Tories won they would be meeting with CEOs and asking for “donations” and then going down to the betting agency to collect their winnings and they have dinner at a posh restaurant overseas all on public funds.
Woke up this morning to a text from a friend on the far left telling me that it was time to start the fight against labour, and presenting me with a list of thier failures. Dismissed it as spartist nonsense, only to turn the PC on and read a hatchet job from The Telegraph about how labours policies have already devalued my house. Starmer is being attacked by both sides before he's even had a chance to put his trousers on. What a mess we've made of the business of politics.
Starmer has put his trousers on by his actions in opposition. I'm more optimistic than before, but I also know Starmer is a bit dodgy in terms of who his campaigns received donations from and who he "purged" from his party leading up to the election. Watch the Labour Files documentary x
Starmer has always been in it for Starmer. From the moment he was the only man to run in a historic all female field then talk about how historic and wonderful it was.
Hunt could be sidestepping the leadership right now for the sake of the long game, I don't think it takes much political ability to see the person the Tories pick this time isn't going to lead them to power or even lead them back to way they can be lead back to power
Not when Labour's manifesto has zero solutions, only promises to make a plan. I've felt more inspired from reading the label on the bleach bottle in my bathroom.
I am hopeful we will see the 3 "Ps", pragmatic, professional, progressive. But folks, we will still need to endure before we see improvement because it takes longer to build than to destroy and the Tories have spent 14 years systematically and deliberately destroying this country leaving the finances in a worst state than ever with public services also in the worst state than ever before. Please be fair with the new government, please understand the scale of corruption unleashed over the last 14 years, please never forget who did this to us and not blame those inheriting the mess. Finally, please understand the economics of the last year, the economy was built to collapse by the Tories by the end of this year, the Tories have been building this in from the moment they knew were going to lose so they and their client media can blame Labour for Tory actions. They did the same in '72-'74, and they succeeded which is the actual reason we are in this mess today, the 5 reprobates of the last 14 years were just Thatcher in different frocks.
I get the impression that Starmer understands that he has to actually deliver results to put people’s minds at ease. I could be wrong but I can’t help but feel slightly optimistic.
It's great to see a sensible person in power with a great team around him all aiming to improve the disaster they have been left from the Tories to bring our great nation back from the brink of disaster.
@@nathanlewis42 Oh yeh let's blame Brexit on Corbyn :D My word, how do you look yourself in the mirror each morning and think you've got anything useful to say when you come up with nonsense like this?
Perhaps another reason Hunt is not interested it is pretty well 100% certain that who ever leads the current tory party won't survive for long so a wily person would wait until they've finished tearing themselves apart.
Yes, he might well be taking the long view and wants to be leader in five years time when it will matter. I wonder how many leaders the Cons will have got through by then?
I expect the Tory party to do exactly what they’ve done in the past. I would not be surprised if they elect Suella Braverman as their new leader.. after all, they’ve just realised that they need to claw back that part of the electorate that now feel comfortable migrating to the National Front…..er….i mean the BNP, sorry, I meant UKIP, oh no, I meant Reform UK!
A certain section of society would still rather have Boris or Nigel because they look like they'd be great to have a beer with. Lack of decent education is the real issue in this country.
If the Tories won you'd expect change immediately as a Labour drone, so I'm saying the same - Labour have done nothing already and will do nothing. "Only been in a few days." So? Wouldn't stop you whining if it were the Tories in charge.
It would be nice if the real Conservative Party actually was a choice. Not what we have had since 2016, which is an anti-immigration, pro BREXIT Party. Not the Party which supported the Union, the Rule of law and positioned itself to Reform rules rather than rip them up, or ignore the ones you don't like. As a right of centre person who has no love for the Labour Party I would actually celebrate the demise of the Rwanda Plan, it was never going to work, it was never going to reduce the boats any more than BREXIT did (it increased after both). Now is the time for the Conservative Party to rebuild not desperately try and prove it is more Brexit than the Reform party. To become the broad Church it used to be and not a narrow party it is now.
For me, the appointment that breaks with the past more is the new attorney general who will hopefully be a more independent voice advising ministers on the law
If the Tory party come to the conclusion that the people are their foundation, not big business, they may be back in office at the election after next. If they think the people are 'far right', then we won't see them until they are proved wrong in another election. The average of British political thought is centrist. It sways left and right, but it never sways far from centre.
When Starmer came out and said he wanted to cut reoffending rates to reduce prisoner numbers it almost felt too grown up. I'm thinking why aren't we sending prisoners to the moon, or doing escape from new york or something?
I hear Reform are officially going to adopt the Running Man as their preferred rehabilitation program. Escape from New York is a regressive policy that is soft on crime.
What a change: before we had ridiculous plans that cost far, far too much and gave away too many rights and our dignity in the eyes of the world. Now we have discovered a whole 48 hours of people working, collaborating and discovering new ways of working FOR the people. With experts. It’s revolutionary. Some I’ll agree with. Some I won’t. But we know that the plans are worked out with the pros and cons explored and the best way to move forward will be enacted.
Keir starmer will be a great pm" I know he changed his mind on things but knew if he wanted to become pm he had to move labour to centre ground". But will need time to clear the mess we have had for 14 years of Tory incompetence and lies.
Why the need to move Labour to a Centrist party when we already have Liberal Democrat's as a centrist party?; my hatred for Tory-Starmer is beyond EXTREME.
Politician: “Politicians are all the same. That’s why I’m running for office.” “So you’re a politician?” Politician: “Well, I have to-“ “Politicians are all the same, dismissed.”
Jacqui Smith has been given a seat in the House of Lords by Starmer so that she can be given the education secretary job. She was disgraced during the MPs expenses scandal. She admitted in an interview years ago that it would be inappropriate for her to be given a peerage. How does that demonstrate integrity?
I hope that along with the results the other side of the channel we can amicably sort out at least some of the immigration issues the right wing reckon only they can sort. Do that, and what do they have? nothing I reckon(they have nothing anyhow, but they do like to shout)
So far Kier Starmer has delivered some perfectly dull, uninteresting and sensible politics, which makes for a very nice breath of fresh air.
the machinations of the Labour right within the Party have not been at all dull over the last 8 years, actually pretty riveting (if deeply disheartening) stuff.
@@adb8411got it in one
@@adb8411 YOU LOST. GET OVER IT
@@mikewilson8513 who said I’m a Tory? I didn’t like any of them. I didn’t even bother voting. But if you think Starmer is the answer then I think you’re going to be in a for nasty surprise. Another wolf-in-sheep-clothing, just like Sunak. Not that there is much choice these days.
@@mikewilson8513 I see Uncle Tony is already crawling out of the woodwork though. How convenient.
I have not been a fan of Keir Starmer in the past, but the contrast between his professionalism and the chaotic, self serving amateurism of the Tories is astounding. They should be in opposition for a generation.
Lib Dems or reform will be next opposition at this rate 😂❤
Reform will be gone.
@@Briocheroll5 Reform will be gone when Putin is gone. No one to pay their bills.
@@brianparsons9368let us pray
@@gpw203 Yes. At what point, at all, in the last 14 years, have the Tories ever done anything but look after their mates?
This streak of 4 days without any nonsense feels like a new record
Appointing an unelected and disgraced former minister, via the House of Lords, ends that.
Well Lammy has droned on about slavery and claimed to be the first working class Foreign Secretary.
No silly new " laws" that will never happen.
@@upsidedownnoise im obviously not in the loop, who is that?
@@upsidedownnoise you'll have to justify why that's nonsense- considering Lord Posh Dave was appointed by an unelected PM with no mandate
His cabinet appointments alone show that this ridiculous idea that they are all the same is utter nonsense.
You feel there’s no self interest in the Labour cabinet? I’d say Starmer, Rayner and Streeting have more in common with the Tories than differences no?
@jaybee4288 not to defend starmer or streeting in paticular but that is not what he said. The initial appointments are leagues ahead of recent tory appointments.
Why then has he appointed the disgraced and unelected Jackie Smith, after first awarding her a peerage. Didn't he slate Sunak for doing the same with David Cameron?
@@jaybee4288
No!
You mean his cabinet appoints that have required him to hand out life long peerages so that they could serve in the cabinet as they weren’t elected as MPs? Yeah nothing dodgy or Tory-like about that!
My father messaged me on Friday saying for the first time since the brexit vote that he genuinely felt the first shoots of hope for the country again. Brought tears to my eyes.
@@timvella1817 zero chance you’d say that to me real life. Utterly pathetic.
@@timvella1817😂
Sounds like one of those fake posts mums put up about made up profound things their toddlers say. 😂😂
hope and optimism can drive a country forward building respect thats earned. Internationally we are looking better allready, see the tories could have made a difference but chose not to
@@system1912its true, I was the tear in his eyes
It feels like the adults have finally stepped in. A huge sense of relief!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I voted Green as I support more progressive policies but I'm glad serious humans are back in charge at last!
David Lammy?
@@timvella1817 There may be some adjustments later on.
@@timvella1817Yes, David Lammy. Are you seriously objecting to Lammy when past foreign secretaries included Johnson and Braverman, both of whom were proven security risks. Probably best to stop and think for a minute before posting your baseless objections.
@@timvella1817 Yes. Look who we've had before, just as a comparison, not that you need one you're obviously old enough to have lived through the last 8 foreign secretaries; Hauge, Hammond, Johnson, Hunt Raab, Truss, Cleverly, Cameron... and you're questioning David Lammy! Jesus, you set the bar low.
Whats a woman????????????
Politicians "Are All The Same" 😢Apart from the honest ones, the competent ones, the dedicated ones, that is !😂😂😂😂
Not too many of them in Starmers Labour that’s the problem. Labour and Tories are very similar. We needed more independents.
Starmer has done nothing and you're already defending him, pathetic bias and stupidity.
@@Dynasty1818ripping him apart as a failure is just them same😂
the problem is it's a self fulfilling prophecy all round
people want politicians to all be the same, because that way it means they have less to think about
politicians end up becoming corrupt because why bother, they'll think you are regardless, may as well make some money
and there's less push to hold corruption accountable if you think they're all like that
"honest ones" - that's Starmer out then. Remember how he lied to the Labour membership in order to become leader in the first place, and then went on Andrew Marr's show and bragged how he'd lie to the country to become Prime Minister!
Investigate the ppe scandal, NOW.
& the track n trace, Dido Hardings biz
Get our money back, spend it in the country
Waste of time and money, let's just get on with the future. It's definitely brighter.
@@ziggarillooh no it’s not ! It’s important for our democracy that those corrupt criminals in the last regime are brought to justice, that includes Johnson for perjury. If we don’t the next conservative government will merely carry on as usual believing they’re above the law.
Jail the ministers that awarded the illegal PPE contracts.
Fed up already of right wing commentators nostalgic about the ‘past’ and stating this government is already failing.
Go home, look yourself in the mirror, feel shame, have a sleep for 5 years, come back better
fed up with left wing voters still unable to identify the difference between a man and a woman. The fight for women's rights. When you find some common sense come back.
I do enjoy your comment. But shame isn't part of their makeup.
I'm fed up already with the ring-wing commentary I see and hear in front of me watching this very video.... .... I take it that you have not read for Fordham Report or watched and listened to the Labour Files, then? But hey those aren't trustworthy right?? I mean it was reporting done by gasp non-'white' people EEEWWW egads how could anyone ever listen to THAT!? >.> Starmer is the most unprincipled and manifestly sociopathic politician I've seen in years; at *least* as much as Boris.
Given the age profile of the average Tory voter, many of them will no longer be with us in 5 years.
@@richardc6269Ain't that the truth!
Well done to the UK. Well done France.
I'm more surprised by France. Just goes to show that social media influenced by the American alt right has no real influence, not even in their own country
Feeling cautiously optimistic. Like there's an actual adult in charge.
Starmer’s speech was excellently delivered and of a quality that we have not heard from a PM for a long time.
Over the last 6 months the shadow cabinet has been preparing for office in order to ensure there was no delay once they were elected, demonstrating their mature commitment to delivering Labour promises.
A PM whose background has been predominantly in Human Rights law is a stark contrast to a PM whose background has been in offshore banking, tax havens and hedge funds.
its a pity he forgot those laws as soon as the israelli lobby got in his ear about gaza isn't it
Speech, yes. Just don't ask him a question or invite him for a debate.
I feel a sense of relief that the tories have gone. It's only now that I realise how awful they were. I feel cautiously optimistic. Starmer is saying all the right things but, as he said himself, he'll be judged by his actions, not his words.
Well the new health secretary being a cancer survivor does give me a more hope about the future handling of the NHS.
Therese 6 sugars Coffey 😂, what a terrible health secretary
Although he is very in favour of private companies being involved in the NHS. We're going to have to keep a close eye on that one.
Why? You will NEVER receive the same treatment.
The UK and France said NO to the far right extremism now we need to do the same here in the US
…Are you…are living under a rock? You already have the left in power in the US!
Ppl call Starmer boring!!! Politics is meant to be boring and if it’s not it’s because there is a crisis or scandal!!
Jacqui Smith
Imagine the absolute confusion of every tory as they watch Starmer picking people who can do a job, to do the job. Doesn't he have mates to pay? Idiots in his party who need to be kept busy? What's all this professionalism supposed to be for?
At least he kept the Tory tradition of appointing an unelected and disgraced former minister, to a new ministerial position, via the House of Lords...
@@upsidedownnoiseit's almost reform levels of pathetic credulity, eh?
So nice to have boring sensible politicians for a change.
David Lammy?
@@timvella1817bring back braverman?
I don’t find Starmer that boring. I’ve had enough of clown leaders.
You can probably pick holes here and there, but it's still better than having a list of people that Boris randomly bumped into in the mess hall at Eton in charge of everything.
@@Grandude77she deported yet ?
This labour government actually looks like a government that wants to serve the interests of the nation and not the party
Early days!!
The party is a very loose collection of differing viewpoints. Better they focus on the nation until they've proved themselves. An ideology fit for the 21st century does need sorting out, but this is not the time for cleaning house.
Or serve themselves and their friends.
@@stephenshaw6448that would be the Tories please wait until there is some evidence before making such a claim.
@NewEstablishment yes, the tories, or the selfservatives
The image of Mogg, the “minister for Brexit Opportunities and government efficiency” stretched out across the benches in Westminster is still etched on my mind. How are you Brits still impressed with such pomp and arrogance ? He still got over 15,000 votes! The mind boggles, you need to work on your obsession with class. The empire is finished
Let’s move on. Mogg DIDN’T get elected again but instead suffered a humiliating defeat. Hope is something we haven’t had the chance to experience for 14 years so let’s enjoy this while we have the opportunity. Surely better than filling the mind with that lack of respect or empathy we have had to put up with for soooo long... Don’t give consent to those cookies.
@@consideredwhisper fair point
The people of Devon/Cornwall voted for Brexit, and are among the most deprived places in the UK for the locals. Real lack of education and opportunities
@@lordvadertheleftie9703Turkeys voting for Christmas
You’re not wrong. We still have the fawning working class mentality in some places. The Tories LOVE these people-as far as votes are concerned, but laugh at them.
Starmer should remove all corrupt lords immediately.
First in the Frame, Lord Frost of Idleness.
He needs to flood the Lords with Labour peers and then get them to vote for self abolition.
Having lords at all makes your country so funny. You are great role players
he has no power to do that.
@@andrewmcgee382he should pass a law , lords are a joke now.
I can't bear hearing people say "sure they're all the same anyway".
If there's one thing the last 14 years has taught us, it's the utter ridiculousness of that sentiment.
Never forget.
I look forward to the 'accountability' phase ... I lost 6 friends to Covid, because of Johnson and Sunak; Sunak has been paid commission by Shell; massive amounts wasted on protective clothing in the pandemic, Rees Mogg defended enhanced capital allowances to oil companies, at a time he was a major investor in Shell.
I think starmer will do his best to fix the damage done. We have to be patient, though, because the damage done is so monumental.
It's hard to tell from Oz, but it looks like the UK is a happier place now. Here's hoping the new government will be able to clean up the Tory mess asap.
I'm not convinced that we Brits feel very comfortable being happy. It always struck me that "whinging poms" was fair comment.
No we’re not happy. Nothings changed yet and it’s doubtful it ever will under labour
It's still raining mate, we're not happy 😂
Happy and relieved 😂
@@digidol52 There are plenty of them (Tory and Reform voters).
VERY early to be making such a bold claim, but I'm fairly confident this Labour government - and, in particular, its leader - won't be as corrupt or self-serving as the last 'lot'...!
Lets hope so, I won't hold me breath though. At least the media exposed the corruption of the Tories, if only they could have been prosecuted for it.
This administration will enjoy much less scrutiny from the mainstream media.
That would be very difficult.
Starmer has already taken 43k in free gifts.
410 mps to choose from and he makes two civilian labour members lords to serve in his cabinet. not self serving, my behind
Really?@@timvella1817
The fact that he has appointed true experts, rather than his mates, to key roles in the cabinet, gives me cause to be optimistic.
They are his mates though. They scratched his back and now he’s scratching theirs. They weren’t even elected.
😂lammy an expert!!!
@@EndyMy-z3ggood job in showing both complete ignorance or inability to use Google. Lammy was not appointed to the Lords, he was voted in as an MP.
@@michaelchampion936 never said he was fool
He's the race baiting foreign secretary..won't last long
Make the country a better place for those who live in it ! Yes.. serving the people .. 🎉
Not going to happen. Austerity mkII coming to the most vulnerable soon.
So glad to find that the children have been put to bed and the adults are back in charge.
Did you write that yourself. Or just copy and paste it from somewhere else
@@44johnburtonglad the grown ups are in charge and the kids are sleeping
And those “children” should NEVER be in control again.
The adults are back in the room, thankfully. 14 years awful Tory rule was more than enough for many of us to bare.
But he never ennobled Dorries, not a day goes by when I smile about that.
ennobled and nobbed look the same to some people, but do we really know?
@@harryfaber brilliant comment 👏
As well as the son of a KGB officer.. despite Mi6 warnings of a security risk.
Who BoJo?
es, Lord Lebedev of Siberia a long time tory and johnson donor. all the right wingers should be ashamed of the last 14 years! we will be ignoring them from now on, they have proven their utter incompetence
And allegedly his own daughter.
@hopegreen9027 so that makes it ok does it?
Got a feeling that he has a dog called Boris. Says it all really.
There has been so much corruption, incompetence, cruelty, depravity by the previous government, mostly . It needs listing and pointing at now and again, least we forget, because many only follow the cult of personality and have short memories .
I remember what Blair did,don't you?
@@timvella1817 No,do tell.
@@timvella1817 Iraq war, didn't cancel PFI contracts. so, for interest to show you aren't biased. tell us everything positive he did
Rt Hon Sir Keir Starmer et al want continue to some of the policies they denounced as cruel.
@@dog_chasing_cars7576 So you have 2, how many for the Tories ?
It's the difference between having a government that only serves their own interests & those of their doners & a government that serves to best interests of the country as a whole.
Starmer's government is there to serve the interests of the rich and Israel while convincing idiots that they're serving the country just because the colour of the rosette on the policies has changed.
Chilli sauce and salad?
Remember these words in two years time.
@@agt155 Gladly- when there are no PPE scandals
@@blazzz13 ...and plenty of PFI scandals.
It sounds like professionals are gonna be running the country again.
You have been fooled, again.
People were complaining kier Starmer is boring.... after the last 14 yrs Im all for the boring politics again. When people were not bombarded with atrocious parliamentary antics.
the first two days are a breath of fresh air they look so darned professional compared to their inept, corrupt opposition. The hollow words of "they have no plan" must be embarrassing as the Labour team have prepared well for the takeover, so much more optimistic for us all
You are easily pleased.
easily disappointed too in the last 14 yrs from putting up with incompetent, corrupt and self serving Tories
I will never get over how Johnson stated explicitly that he was would rather thousands of us died than order a second lockdown.
'Let the bodies pile high' were Boris' words
Our "president" told us to drink bleach! Some people did, and some people died.
Erm….what in the actual f*ck?!
For one, he DID order a second lockdown though, and can you remember the CHAOS because people didn’t want it?! Can you remember how much of an absolute TANTRUM everyone threw?!
Lord above, people have memories of a fish!
And why is anyone bothered about who is the next tory party leader,, i mean mug to be controlled by the party.. i really couldn't care, the whole party is even more irrelevant now then ever.
Controls are all in the hands of the banks and the city of London…
We should care, the future of the Tory party could be quite terrifying. When Labour doesn't deliver anything meaningful the Tory party, or Reform or both could be back in power and make the last 14 years seem like fun by comparison. Labour actually got less votes than in the 2019 election, this is a house of cards.
@fiver4249 fk me your cheerful . They only just came back into power buddy,, give em chance eh,, they got 14 years worth of shi£ to undo so that's no mean feat in itself. Chill.🤣..as for the reform and torys I couldn't give a flying fk about them either, chill out .
@@paul8161 Maybe you should do some homework, find out exactly what just came into power. Clement Attlee it is not. Also you might give an f if you find they end up in power because too many people decided we should just 'chill'. Democracy has been dangerously eroded already in case you hadn't noticed.
Be careful. In terms of seats, it looks like a landslide-but that’s only because of your strange election system. In votes, it’s nothing that one period of great expectations and mediocre performance can’t easily reverse. That’s what awaits my country, much unfortunately. People expect miracles of Starmer’s government and the most enthusiastic will inevitably be disappointed.
Starmer’s speeches as PM have sounded so prime ministerial, fact-informed, and unifying-beginning to heal divisions.
Staggeringly different.
Watch him f**k up his first PMQ s.He was useless in opposition and things won't change.
Some inspired cabinet appointments. I am hopeful. At the very least there are adults back in charge and not absolute grifters.
Jacqui Smith
@@upsidedownnoise appointing an ex-teacher as a junior minister in the dept of education, certainly not the worst choice tbh.
I bet you were cheering Boris on when he gave his speech last week?
When the tory press bleat, I ask people to remember the achievements of Gove, Truss, Porridge Johnson, Gavin Williamson & Zahawi & their idiotic supporters.
Mmmm
@@timvella1817 it's the uneducated that still believe they were professional 😂😂😂😂
Let's go over Labour's accomplishments. Done. Don't have anything to say.
@@Dynasty1818 The NHS? oh I forgot, all tories do is clap for the nurses but never ever want to help them.......
@@Dynasty1818 Theve been in 3 DAYS fool.
House of lords need to be radically updated, or better still scrapped
So that Starmer cannot undemocratically appoint ANOTHER minister perhaps?
@@upsidedownnoise so that NOBODY can undemocratically appoint ministers??? 🤔👍
@@colinmassey527 Which Minister or Secretary of State was not democratically appointed?
@@jonathandnicholson the house of lords is democratic?
@@colinmassey527 No it's not there are still Hereditary Peers and C of E Bishops
The word is not optimism it's empathy that is the biggest difference between the two parties
I’m so glad the Tories have been kicked out of No10 . Corrupt and self serving politicians have no place in government .
Dear James, could we start calling lobbying what it really is? Bribery
It needs investigating
Completely agree, reinstating Suella was the beginning of the end.
Braverman has more guts than the whole of the Labour front bench combined.
@@georgebain5734 She resigned for E-mailing a gov document to people outside of Government she didn't own up she was found out if that's guts then you can have her
When the people rise up & demand the end of privatising profits & socialising costs, will we see real progression to a more caring, understanding & empathetic society. Biggest con in the history of the world how conservatives convinced the least able to pay to vote for their greed through cultural outrage.
Brexit was the con a lot of the Electorate fell for Boris the liar and Farage the con man
You're talking about the Bell Riots from Star Trek. They should have happened 4 years ago. We're too far off track for that to happen now
34% of the people that voted. Hardly a mass uprising.
The UK needs to lower its sights on being “relevant” in geopolitics and focus instead on attracting investment and diversifying its economy.
That's a tall order from a former imperialist nation that colonized almost 80% of the world.
It does feel like the dark cloud has now been lifted
A long awaited new dawn which I will support wholeheartedly. Wouldn’t it be brilliant if the present government could solve most of Britain’s problems and deny the Conservatives/Reform government again next time round🙏
We have a government interested in serving the nation, that alone in this country is a revelation. Then you look at the appointments he’s made outside of MPs, people with real substance and regardless of their political persuasion. This makes me optimistic and Christ knows this country needs some.
Jacqui Smith resigned in disgrace...
I recall early in Blair’s government (within 100 days) in PMQs, Blair gave a speech (i don’t remember the details) but the jist was … “ We said we were going to do “X”, and we have done it. We said we were going to do “Y” and we have done it, and on and on in the same vein. At which point, i thought “OK, these guys DO deserve credit” as you can’t ask anyone to do more than publish a plan, and then implement it exactly.
72+ hours without a new scandal .... and counting ..... Interesting new feeling, I could get used to this.
Jacqui Smith.
If Tories won they would be meeting with CEOs and asking for “donations” and then going down to the betting agency to collect their winnings and they have dinner at a posh restaurant overseas all on public funds.
Breath of fresh air that the adults are back in room 😊
Carry on deluding yourself.
THINGS 🎵CAN ONLY🎶 GET BETTER !🎶 THINGS CAN 🎶ONLY 🎶GET BETTER !🎵
💯
The sun has risen on a freshly laundered Labour country. Ahh, the smell of freshly baked Thick sliced Competence, generously spread with integrity !
And it did until Iraq the Global crash PFIs and removing clause 4 Tony got too Complacent
Woke up this morning to a text from a friend on the far left telling me that it was time to start the fight against labour, and presenting me with a list of thier failures. Dismissed it as spartist nonsense, only to turn the PC on and read a hatchet job from The Telegraph about how labours policies have already devalued my house. Starmer is being attacked by both sides before he's even had a chance to put his trousers on. What a mess we've made of the business of politics.
The left always whinge as they yearn to be on the outside moaning about people in charge. A bit like Farage's lot.
Mmmm
What a boring txt to recieve
Starmer has put his trousers on by his actions in opposition. I'm more optimistic than before, but I also know Starmer is a bit dodgy in terms of who his campaigns received donations from and who he "purged" from his party leading up to the election. Watch the Labour Files documentary x
Starmer has always been in it for Starmer. From the moment he was the only man to run in a historic all female field then talk about how historic and wonderful it was.
Hunt could be sidestepping the leadership right now for the sake of the long game, I don't think it takes much political ability to see the person the Tories pick this time isn't going to lead them to power or even lead them back to way they can be lead back to power
He represents this era of tory corruption we just experienced. Don't think people would go back, they need to change or stay irrelevant forever
You have got to feel optimistic after 14 years of self serving Tory’s.
Not when Labour's manifesto has zero solutions, only promises to make a plan. I've felt more inspired from reading the label on the bleach bottle in my bathroom.
Ask any Scot and he'll tell you that the plural of Tory is Toories.
@Dynasty1818 someone's seen the latest Jonathan Pie video!
I am hopeful we will see the 3 "Ps", pragmatic, professional, progressive. But folks, we will still need to endure before we see improvement because it takes longer to build than to destroy and the Tories have spent 14 years systematically and deliberately destroying this country leaving the finances in a worst state than ever with public services also in the worst state than ever before. Please be fair with the new government, please understand the scale of corruption unleashed over the last 14 years, please never forget who did this to us and not blame those inheriting the mess. Finally, please understand the economics of the last year, the economy was built to collapse by the Tories by the end of this year, the Tories have been building this in from the moment they knew were going to lose so they and their client media can blame Labour for Tory actions. They did the same in '72-'74, and they succeeded which is the actual reason we are in this mess today, the 5 reprobates of the last 14 years were just Thatcher in different frocks.
Country first, party second.
“The grownups are back in charge”. My thought exactly. And…. breathe. For a while at least.
They only have to be mostly honest and mostly try to do the right thing to be about 100% better than the last government.
I get the impression that Starmer understands that he has to actually deliver results to put people’s minds at ease. I could be wrong but I can’t help but feel slightly optimistic.
I think this is such an important point.
I admire the privileged Starmer for admitting he prefers the unelected billionaire class of Davos to the elected MPs.
It's great to see a sensible person in power with a great team around him all aiming to improve the disaster they have been left from the Tories to bring our great nation back from the brink of disaster.
His appointments have earned their positions…not believed
It was their birthright
I live abroad and for the last 14 years have avoided saying I was from England. That all changed on July 5th. 😊
After 14 Years of Tories ruining The UK anyone else would be better. I would've liked Jeremy Corbyn but you take the wins you can get.
I will never forgive Corbyn for enabling Brexit.
@@nathanlewis42He didn't vote for it or called the vote...Blame David Cameron & Tory Euro Skeptics for Brexit.
He was eurosceptic. 1/3 of the labour party are. But corbyn kept that very quiet @@nathanlewis42
@@nathanlewis42 Oh yeh let's blame Brexit on Corbyn :D My word, how do you look yourself in the mirror each morning and think you've got anything useful to say when you come up with nonsense like this?
@@user-em6ie2be7x he supported Brexit, please don't try to rewrite history
Lol, so now that Labour is in power, he switches from "holding those in power to account" to being a regime cheerleader.
Perhaps another reason Hunt is not interested it is pretty well 100% certain that who ever leads the current tory party won't survive for long so a wily person would wait until they've finished tearing themselves apart.
Yes, he might well be taking the long view and wants to be leader in five years time when it will matter. I wonder how many leaders the Cons will have got through by then?
Only 2 privately educated cabinet members, (less the new Knights), that really is a surprise, and a great one at that.
I expect the Tory party to do exactly what they’ve done in the past. I would not be surprised if they elect Suella Braverman as their new leader.. after all, they’ve just realised that they need to claw back that part of the electorate that now feel comfortable migrating to the National Front…..er….i mean the BNP, sorry, I meant UKIP, oh no, I meant Reform UK!
And he already allowed wind energy back!!
For the first time in years, I have some hope for the country
Why? Not a single thing Labour have said or promised is worthy of hope.
@@Dynasty1818😂 you living in another reality
@@Dynasty1818what? We get to keep our human rights for a start.
Awesome! The show intro packaged as a final product!
Can we now move to an elected upper house, and a lot fewer of them, rather than the jobs for the boys ( and girls) method we have now
Starmer has already used the HoL to undemocratically appoint a former disgraced minister so, I can't see them cleaning it up.
A certain section of society would still rather have Boris or Nigel because they look like they'd be great to have a beer with. Lack of decent education is the real issue in this country.
I can‘t even think about the monumental task Labour has to start after the last 14 years of Tories….it will take years…🎉😅
If the Tories won you'd expect change immediately as a Labour drone, so I'm saying the same - Labour have done nothing already and will do nothing. "Only been in a few days." So? Wouldn't stop you whining if it were the Tories in charge.
@@Dynasty1818 Sweet red grapes are two packs for £2 at Asda. Those you bought appear to be sour.
Don’t forget labours mess 14 years ago😫
Can't wait to see how this plays out.
It would be nice if the real Conservative Party actually was a choice. Not what we have had since 2016, which is an anti-immigration, pro BREXIT Party. Not the Party which supported the Union, the Rule of law and positioned itself to Reform rules rather than rip them up, or ignore the ones you don't like. As a right of centre person who has no love for the Labour Party I would actually celebrate the demise of the Rwanda Plan, it was never going to work, it was never going to reduce the boats any more than BREXIT did (it increased after both).
Now is the time for the Conservative Party to rebuild not desperately try and prove it is more Brexit than the Reform party. To become the broad Church it used to be and not a narrow party it is now.
No broad church can support Brexit. It's a narrow chauvinist aaisle.
Starmers tenure as DPP was a catalogue of failures that ruined peoples lives.
Has he not put his own daughter in the House of Lords?
For that he’d have to know who his children are
A lawyer would advise me to answer no to that question
For me, the appointment that breaks with the past more is the new attorney general who will hopefully be a more independent voice advising ministers on the law
@@markstamp3937 AGREE!
Who was that very young lady adviser that was elevated to the Lords by Boris?
If the Tory party come to the conclusion that the people are their foundation, not big business, they may be back in office at the election after next. If they think the people are 'far right', then we won't see them until they are proved wrong in another election. The average of British political thought is centrist. It sways left and right, but it never sways far from centre.
Who's James always looking at next to the camera?
The gaffer who is trying to keep the lens from breaking
he just can't look you in the eye!
@@TheFlowdiskord It's a radio programme.
"No longer having a Minister for Commonsense", that made me smile.
How are you coping without that support?
@@joso7228it’s hard for all of us but I’m sure we will get there.
When Starmer came out and said he wanted to cut reoffending rates to reduce prisoner numbers it almost felt too grown up. I'm thinking why aren't we sending prisoners to the moon, or doing escape from new york or something?
I hear Reform are officially going to adopt the Running Man as their preferred rehabilitation program. Escape from New York is a regressive policy that is soft on crime.
Jaccqui Smith has a history of using prisoners as unpaid decorators when she was Home Secretary; her appointment is not grown up, corrupt maybe.
Imagine... an actually honest PM. SHOCKING.
We need to go through the Lords and remove all the political appointments. Just leave us with the clever people.
So, Starmer will have to get rid of one of his appointments.
@@upsidedownnoise No he won't, he'll still be able to do the job without the title.
What a change: before we had ridiculous plans that cost far, far too much and gave away too many rights and our dignity in the eyes of the world. Now we have discovered a whole 48 hours of people working, collaborating and discovering new ways of working FOR the people. With experts. It’s revolutionary. Some I’ll agree with. Some I won’t. But we know that the plans are worked out with the pros and cons explored and the best way to move forward will be enacted.
Yes, it feels like the adults are back in charge and the children have been sent to bed.
It is indeed a breath of fresh air 😊
7:35 I think everyone had to become political as a response to the utter moral failures and gaslighting coming from the top!!
Keir starmer will be a great pm" I know he changed his mind on things but knew if he wanted to become pm he had to move labour to centre ground". But will need time to clear the mess we have had for 14 years of Tory incompetence and lies.
Why the need to move Labour to a Centrist party when we already have Liberal Democrat's as a centrist party?; my hatred for Tory-Starmer is beyond EXTREME.
Politician: “Politicians are all the same. That’s why I’m running for office.”
“So you’re a politician?”
Politician: “Well, I have to-“
“Politicians are all the same, dismissed.”
Jacqui Smith has been given a seat in the House of Lords by Starmer so that she can be given the education secretary job. She was disgraced during the MPs expenses scandal. She admitted in an interview years ago that it would be inappropriate for her to be given a peerage.
How does that demonstrate integrity?
Yes, if only she'd shipwrecked the country by needlessly calling a referendum in order to shore up support of her own power.
Agree with you. These commentators are trying to say it's somehow different now that Starmer has done the same.
OMG Clearly they should all resign and call an Election !
Another rip off merchant back in power not heard O'Brien mention that but that's not surprising
No, it does not but, it does more than hint at corruption.
Simply put ..... Relieved......
I hope that along with the results the other side of the channel we can amicably sort out at least some of the immigration issues the right wing reckon only they can sort. Do that, and what do they have? nothing I reckon(they have nothing anyhow, but they do like to shout)