Just one of those unforeseen problems, i.e. a ShopSmith Utility Light Mounting on the headstock. Back in the day when I installed the shoe mount on my headstock, there was no drill template provided. Simply a suggested location, so when I proceeded to tape the PP2 drill template to my headstock I discovered that I had selected a position for the shoe that was dead center between the new fuse and overload locations. Which turned out fortuitous in my case, since it kept the earlier screw holes from colliding with the edges of the new holes. My solution simply requires me to move the two holes for the light shoe up an appropriate distance, maintaining the 45° angle. I’ll being using epoxy to fill the left over holes. And, I can enthusiastically recommend adding one or more of these lights to your own accessories. I have three, having started out in the PNW, later moving to southern Arizona. Even though my SS now operates in the land of intense sunlight, having more light is always better than being in the dark. (well, there is a photo to add but the site doesn't permit that action).
Thanks. I have one challenge for you to pass on to the ShopSmith folks: Find a way to add a large and convenient paddle "stop" switch like on so many table saws and router tables. The stop button the control panel is relatively small in comparison and it's often hard to get to especially when working in table saw mode.
@@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852 -Actually, it would be quite easy. The display could be programmed so that when the motor is running, a large red square that says "STOP" would fill the screen, and touching the screen in any location would stop the motor and return to the normal display. Granted, this is not a true paddle stop but a simulation of one, but it would greatly enhance safety. Notice how small the stop button is at 9:38 - could they have made it any smaller? I have the power pro v.1 and also find "hunting" for the off switch, sometimes located under a floating table, to be troublesome.
@@jamesk73743 Making the STOP button fill the screen wouldn't allow you to see what speed is set, nor would it allow you to increase/decrease the speed while running. But it could certainly be made much larger - all the way to the left side. BTW, I'm not sure that the running speed display is useful, since the 'Selected' speed is already shown, and the running speed quickly tracks that. (The running speed should at least be averaged over several measurements so that it doesn't jump all over like it does now.) Too many things about the PowerPro 2 didn't get thought out very well IMO. Mine is back at the factory for re-programming (apparently the customer can't use the USB port yet). Fingers crossed that all the issues are addressed, and that I get it back in time to make a few Christmas gifts with it.
Before you spring for a PP2, please read my bug list on the Owner’s Forum. Their slogan THE POWER OF TOUCH should be THE PERIL OF TOUCH. After 6 or 7 months with no fixes, I’m purchasing a PP1 user interface and original quill feed shaft (discarded prematurely) so that I can convert back to the simpler, safer PP1. Tactile switches that respond properly, a label that won’t get all scuffed up, no ‘phantom finger’ problems, etc. The lost upgrade cost will be my reminder not to blindly jump on every newfangled upgrade without researching it first.
Thanks for the video! Will the screen reorient (like a phone) when in the drill press mode so that it can be read and used more easily? That would be a great feature.
When Mike says the new PowerPro 2 is a dream, he’s right - it’s a nightmare! The quickly spotted misspelled words, poorly formatted and incorrect prompts are just the tip of the iceberg. The buttons work backwards - not responding until you remove your finger from them (often not even then), or acting like they were touched twice. For example, touching the STOP button often turns the machine off, but it comes right back on. Sometimes START appears to turn it on (START changes to STOP), but the machine doesn’t start. Others are reporting the same dangerous problems, and some have returned theirs for a refund. The STOP button is also way too small, and hard to hit in a panic situation. The BACK button sometimes goes to a page other than the previous one, etc. Mike says fixing these and other bugs will be handled via the USB port, but the factory says they haven’t figured out how that will work yet. (They had me return my controller to the factory for reprogramming, but the only thing they changed was the version number.) Upgrading to the original PowerPro was a good move, but PP2 added way more problems than useful features. Order only if you’d like to pay them to be a beta tester, with no guarantee that they’ll fix any bugs you find. (And you’ll find plenty.)
In firmware version 2.1.1 there are prompts containing at least two misspelled words (PORCEDURE, FORM), a reverse spindle direction warning that asks if you want to continue, but has only a Confirm option, a lathe prompt of SELECT YOUR CUT TYPE that should be Select Your Material, etc, and buttons that don’t operate properly. (They should beep and operate when touched, not when removing your finger.) This whole upgrade is incredibly buggy, as if neither Striatech nor Shopsmith did any QC. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Shopsmith with this upgrade, and aggravated every time I use it. Have you heard whether there will be a firmware upgrade to fix all these issues soon?
@@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852 Thanks, Michael. That’s good to know. I hope they have a lot more critical eyes on it this time before it’s released. How will we hear that it’s ready for download?
I’ve been searching YT for days now for any word on this.
Thankyou.
Thank you, Mike.
Just one of those unforeseen problems, i.e. a ShopSmith Utility Light Mounting on the headstock. Back in the day when I installed the shoe mount on my headstock, there was no drill template provided. Simply a suggested location, so when I proceeded to tape the PP2 drill template to my headstock I discovered that I had selected a position for the shoe that was dead center between the new fuse and overload locations. Which turned out fortuitous in my case, since it kept the earlier screw holes from colliding with the edges of the new holes. My solution simply requires me to move the two holes for the light shoe up an appropriate distance, maintaining the 45° angle. I’ll being using epoxy to fill the left over holes. And, I can enthusiastically recommend adding one or more of these lights to your own accessories. I have three, having started out in the PNW, later moving to southern Arizona. Even though my SS now operates in the land of intense sunlight, having more light is always better than being in the dark.
(well, there is a photo to add but the site doesn't permit that action).
Thank you Mike!
Thanks. I have one challenge for you to pass on to the ShopSmith folks: Find a way to add a large and convenient paddle "stop" switch like on so many table saws and router tables. The stop button the control panel is relatively small in comparison and it's often hard to get to especially when working in table saw mode.
Afraid not
@@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852 -Actually, it would be quite easy. The display could be programmed so that when the motor is running, a large red square that says "STOP" would fill the screen, and touching the screen in any location would stop the motor and return to the normal display. Granted, this is not a true paddle stop but a simulation of one, but it would greatly enhance safety. Notice how small the stop button is at 9:38 - could they have made it any smaller? I have the power pro v.1 and also find "hunting" for the off switch, sometimes located under a floating table, to be troublesome.
@@jamesk73743 good thought
@@jamesk73743 I like it
@@jamesk73743 Making the STOP button fill the screen wouldn't allow you to see what speed is set, nor would it allow you to increase/decrease the speed while running. But it could certainly be made much larger - all the way to the left side. BTW, I'm not sure that the running speed display is useful, since the 'Selected' speed is already shown, and the running speed quickly tracks that. (The running speed should at least be averaged over several measurements so that it doesn't jump all over like it does now.) Too many things about the PowerPro 2 didn't get thought out very well IMO. Mine is back at the factory for re-programming (apparently the customer can't use the USB port yet). Fingers crossed that all the issues are addressed, and that I get it back in time to make a few Christmas gifts with it.
Definitely on my upgrade list. Thanks Mike
Thank you for showing this to the world. I look forward to making the upgrade
Before you spring for a PP2, please read my bug list on the Owner’s Forum. Their slogan THE POWER OF TOUCH should be THE PERIL OF TOUCH. After 6 or 7 months with no fixes, I’m purchasing a PP1 user interface and original quill feed shaft (discarded prematurely) so that I can convert back to the simpler, safer PP1. Tactile switches that respond properly, a label that won’t get all scuffed up, no ‘phantom finger’ problems, etc. The lost upgrade cost will be my reminder not to blindly jump on every newfangled upgrade without researching it first.
Thanks, Mike. 👍
Thanks!
Sweet! I’m gunna be in touch.👍👍
Thanks for the video! Will the screen reorient (like a phone) when in the drill press mode so that it can be read and used more easily? That would be a great feature.
afraid not. But the screen is so big its easy to read from any angle
@@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852 Thanks for the reply.
They didn't auto rotate? Who was in charge of this launch? I have not heard or seen one nice thing about this.
Do you have a link to Jim’s video? Other than the bigger brighter screen, what does this upgrade bring to the table?
Thanks for the override password! LOL 😎
When Mike says the new PowerPro 2 is a dream, he’s right - it’s a nightmare! The quickly spotted misspelled words, poorly formatted and incorrect prompts are just the tip of the iceberg. The buttons work backwards - not responding until you remove your finger from them (often not even then), or acting like they were touched twice. For example, touching the STOP button often turns the machine off, but it comes right back on. Sometimes START appears to turn it on (START changes to STOP), but the machine doesn’t start. Others are reporting the same dangerous problems, and some have returned theirs for a refund. The STOP button is also way too small, and hard to hit in a panic situation. The BACK button sometimes goes to a page other than the previous one, etc. Mike says fixing these and other bugs will be handled via the USB port, but the factory says they haven’t figured out how that will work yet. (They had me return my controller to the factory for reprogramming, but the only thing they changed was the version number.) Upgrading to the original PowerPro was a good move, but PP2 added way more problems than useful features. Order only if you’d like to pay them to be a beta tester, with no guarantee that they’ll fix any bugs you find. (And you’ll find plenty.)
In firmware version 2.1.1 there are prompts containing at least two misspelled words (PORCEDURE, FORM), a reverse spindle direction warning that asks if you want to continue, but has only a Confirm option, a lathe prompt of SELECT YOUR CUT TYPE that should be Select Your Material, etc, and buttons that don’t operate properly. (They should beep and operate when touched, not when removing your finger.) This whole upgrade is incredibly buggy, as if neither Striatech nor Shopsmith did any QC. I’ve lost a lot of respect for Shopsmith with this upgrade, and aggravated every time I use it. Have you heard whether there will be a firmware upgrade to fix all these issues soon?
Ha. Yeah I saw those. The fix is being done now and will be your first test of that USB port built into the control pad.
@@todaysshopsmithwithmichael7852 Thanks, Michael. That’s good to know. I hope they have a lot more critical eyes on it this time before it’s released. How will we hear that it’s ready for download?
More junk to go wrong and more money spent