i bet art’s confidence isn’t shaken anymore lol. this is what tashi wanted, she cultivated this toxic “relationship” with tennis, and the men. i think they all three love one another if im honest to an extent, tennis was the world they all revolved around and it was just emotionally thrilling. great way to describe it.
love that u guys are catching so many detials on the first watch, best reaction for the movie so far!! just saw the discussion part, omg finally a reaction that understands, its always THROUPLES FOR THE WIN.
The ending is left ambiguous and for good reason. A tie break is basically a game first to seven. At the end there, patrick won one game because art went over the net, but we don't actually know who ended up winning. But the film makes it clear that tashi got what she wanted (for art to play through her and give her some good fucking tennis lol), and patrick and art made up (which I think happened the moment they smiled at each other). I'd like to think tashi stayed with art after with patrick losing on purpose now that he knows he has his friend back and art's daughter doesnt get screwed over by the whole thing lol. Great reaction though, love how you guys picked up on things. You've earned a new subscriber!!
I LOVED every messy, complicated, co-dependent minute of this movie! Best movie I've seen in the last few years! Nothing cookie cutter about it at all and I loved everything about it...music, cinematography, ... EVERTHING!
i've watched the movie 3 times already but i never noticed the parallels between the points in the match and the relationship dynamics in the flashback timeline... like that was such a good catch omg
this is such a good reaction/review video, I've seen so many of these for challengers and i swear you are some of the only two with brains actually paying attention to the movie LOL great stuff!!
24:24 just one thing Patrick wasn't looking at the girls he was looking at the Duncanator poster. You could tell from their fight he's kinda jealous of her status. Anyways I really liked your review few people point out the underlying importance of Tasha's race and notice overall parallels throughout the movie, especially at their first watch so I was surprised! Keep up the work good job guys
never expected you guys would react to this movie! really entertainied by yalls reaction and commentary, need yall to react to more movies or even series!!
i really appreciate y'all giving such thoughtful commentary and analysis! i love this movie so much, easily my favorite this year. i can't stop listening to the score, my spotify wrapped will never recover. excited to see what y'all got coming next!
Wow, you guys noticed a lot of things I didn't when I watched it for the first time. Like the Tinder part in Patrick's scene, I didn't even realize he had a guy as an option confirming he's Bi. Great reaction.
i think the scene where art saw pat and tashi kissing in the cafe was just a metaphor that he was suspicious of them, and he only knew it for sure when pat did the racket thing
Omg yes! I watched it two times in theater than I watched it last night on my tv and had to rent it. But man what a movie, not a sexy romcom Ike I was expecting but a sexy drama/romance/ sports all in one, loved it!
great reaction - but everyone's the villain! Nobody loves anyone else purely, they all need each other they all manipulate and override eachother - they all need eachother in unhealthy ways, all flawed- the throuple agenda is strong, and the best case I've ever seen for it, ha.
also lol she didn't 'come in' to their friendship - Patrick literally introduced them - its his fault lmao - they're they only two in the world that suit her, and her them. I love love her character because we haven't seen anything like her onscreen in years.
lot of reaction content out there, v little of it thoughtful and attentive. i've seen this film twice now (it really stayed w me after the first viewing) and thought about it quite a bit, but you guys keyed in on things i hadn't yet considered. well done; i'm subscribing for sure.
47:27 I said the same thing !!! I didn’t wanna be weird but like I noticed with pat there was tongue and with art there wasn’t (from what I could see ofc) if it was intentional they really did a good job at creating those differences.
your guys' analysis of these characters was soo spot on!! I saw this alone in imax & it immediately became my favorite film of the year so far. I love how complex these characters are & the use of tennis as a sort of allegory. makes for such an interesting love triangle/story that you can go on & on about forever! luca's movies are great, his last couldn't have been different from this one but I enjoyed it just as much. it's called Bones & All-- I think you'd find it really interesting if you're not squeamish with body horror :)
I'll definitely try to check it out at some point! As a horror fan, I'm definitely not averse to body horror (and I just looked it up and saw that Timothée Chalamet is in it, which is even more incentive to watch it).
The talk at the end was like a chat with friends. Loved how y'all kept adding things to the conversation. So much like my thought process after finishing the movie lol One thing I would add to the convo, is that Patrick was (and probably still is) very wealthy. They mention his family having huge state at the party. So him being "down on his luck" might just be him not giving a fuck about anything or cosplaying as poor for the whole underdog arc. There's still a chance that his family disowned him for some reason, tho. But I thought it was a cool detail to look back to and wonder!
Great reaction, I didn't catch some of what you caught! Honestly cool, I'm following :) You're very right about Tashi's race and her having had to work hard - she mentions the racism she faced and that her family couldn't afford to send her to the kind of private school the boys went to. So yeah, her interest in Art must have been rekindled when he finally started making progress. Imo though, Tashi did not homewreck the boys - my buddy Art did that all by himself. Think about it: Pat wasn't responsible for Tashi's injury. Why did Art lash out at him? They could've still been friends after Pat & Tashi broke up. Especially since she didn't even want him yet. Ruined things with his best friend for a girl he wasn't even hanging out with like that until the injury. Weirdo💀 😂 Anyway you're making me want to watch it again in the theater, if it's still on!
I said this in another comment but Pat really got the short end of the stick in that situation. He lost his girlfriend AND his best friend/unrequited love in one fell swoop. And his only real crime was... not wanting to be Tashi's lapdog? Wanting to be her peer? Not only that, but the fact that he wasn't there when Tashi got injured and his last real interaction with her was their big fight. The guilt he must have felt. In light of all that, it's not surprising why his life went so downhill afterwards. I feel like the movie tries to make you distrust him from the start, when in reality he's the most screwed over of the three. I can definitely see myself being more sympathetic to him during a rewatch.
@@ChannelNamePending699 He did get the shortest stick in a way now that you mention it yeah I agree. In the sense that their whole dynamic is like an axis that went officer. Art and Pat were good with their status quo, not acting on their mutual attraction, but also not being serious about tennis or anything else. Tashi comes in, but you can't (conventionally) be 3 to tango. So from then on, the balance is broken and there's always one of the boys feeling left out. Except Pat ended up isolated from them for much longer than Art sat on the sidelines for ^^"
So I have this theory that Patrick is bi.... but Art is not. Which may be why they never actually got together like that. For Art it really was just a good friendship, even if Patrick may or may not have wanted more. It would also serve the narrative of why Patrick's life has fallen apart after he and Tashi broke up... he lost his girlfriend to his best friend, who was really the only person he truly felt connected with - and may or may not have had unrequited feelings for. His life being in shambles, never able to really apply himself despite being the better tennis player - even the comment about 'he smells' from the guys at the motel. Those are all things that suggest depression. I think Patrick wanted to be with Art and maybe he didn't fully realize that until Art was already gone. As for the final match and who won... .in tennis you need 2 points in order to win a tie break and the final scene was only one point (which Patrick would have won because Art was over the net). So we actually don't know who wins that final match, because the movie ends there. But according to the screenplay writer, they ended it there because it doesn't matter who actually wins in the end. What matters is that they all got what they wanted from that last scene - the boys were playing tennis together again and Tashi got to watch some 'good fucking tennis' which is all she's ever wanted to do.
Art could also be bisexual too, but a repressed one with a preference for women. just to reference the director about Patrick and Art’s relationship, is not just about being jealous of each other because one of them gets to date Tashi, but it is also about wanting one another and the fear that not only they might lose the girl but they might lose the other in process. Art showcases this jealousy after asking Patrick to tell him if he’s had sex with Tashi, he is jealous not only that Patrick got to be with Tashi but he also got reminded that he was being “left out” by his supposed best friend whom he may have repressed feelings for. It could be a platonic relationship and I believe it is but I also believe there’s more to it than just some platonic friendship, it could be both platonic and romantic which is how Josh O’Connor described their dynamic during the Challengers press tour. Also, this is what Luca had to say about the ambiguous ending “They are acting out for 13 years the possibility of going back to that hotel room to find again that beautiful moment of burgeoning desires and innocence. And at the same time, to feel at ease with one another, the way they were there. So, throughout the entire arc, that’s what they’re trying to do. And finally, with the rivalry at that heightened level, the triangle finally found itself sitting in the same place, but now on the court.” and “I needed to get this very, very visually amped up and really immersed for the audience to understand how much it meant for them not to win over the other, but to be back together, all of them.”
we see Art getting visibly flustered by his physio bending his leg back, he's attracted to men he's just super repressed (and a liar) which is part of what he's overcoming in the end
@stonerjhope finally I haven't seen anyone talk about it but I def feel that was supposed to be Art's indication he's bi, just like how the tinder scene confirmed Patrick being bi
U people r atleast realizing that art is the worst friend or a snake but I saw other reactions and some of them r pissed off on Patrick for being "toxic" when clearly Tashi is the one who is a horrible character
it doesn’t matter who won because tashi DEFINITELY won 🤣🤣🤣 my girl had finally climaxed watching that final match!
i bet art’s confidence isn’t shaken anymore lol. this is what tashi wanted, she cultivated this toxic “relationship” with tennis, and the men. i think they all three love one another if im honest to an extent, tennis was the world they all revolved around and it was just emotionally thrilling. great way to describe it.
love that u guys are catching so many detials on the first watch, best reaction for the movie so far!! just saw the discussion part, omg finally a reaction that understands, its always THROUPLES FOR THE WIN.
This movie was a massive W for the throuple community. 🔥
The ending is left ambiguous and for good reason. A tie break is basically a game first to seven. At the end there, patrick won one game because art went over the net, but we don't actually know who ended up winning. But the film makes it clear that tashi got what she wanted (for art to play through her and give her some good fucking tennis lol), and patrick and art made up (which I think happened the moment they smiled at each other).
I'd like to think tashi stayed with art after with patrick losing on purpose now that he knows he has his friend back and art's daughter doesnt get screwed over by the whole thing lol. Great reaction though, love how you guys picked up on things. You've earned a new subscriber!!
I LOVED every messy, complicated, co-dependent minute of this movie! Best movie I've seen in the last few years! Nothing cookie cutter about it at all and I loved everything about it...music, cinematography, ... EVERTHING!
i've watched the movie 3 times already but i never noticed the parallels between the points in the match and the relationship dynamics in the flashback timeline... like that was such a good catch omg
this is such a good reaction/review video, I've seen so many of these for challengers and i swear you are some of the only two with brains actually paying attention to the movie LOL great stuff!!
this is such a good reaction, like it really felt like you understood the characters!
24:24 just one thing Patrick wasn't looking at the girls he was looking at the Duncanator poster. You could tell from their fight he's kinda jealous of her status.
Anyways I really liked your review few people point out the underlying importance of Tasha's race and notice overall parallels throughout the movie, especially at their first watch so I was surprised! Keep up the work good job guys
Good catch, I don't think we noticed the poster during the first watch.
never expected you guys would react to this movie! really entertainied by yalls reaction and commentary, need yall to react to more movies or even series!!
Or maybe react to animes! I think you guys would love chainsaw man
i really appreciate y'all giving such thoughtful commentary and analysis! i love this movie so much, easily my favorite this year. i can't stop listening to the score, my spotify wrapped will never recover. excited to see what y'all got coming next!
Wow, you guys noticed a lot of things I didn't when I watched it for the first time. Like the Tinder part in Patrick's scene, I didn't even realize he had a guy as an option confirming he's Bi. Great reaction.
i think the scene where art saw pat and tashi kissing in the cafe was just a metaphor that he was suspicious of them, and he only knew it for sure when pat did the racket thing
this movie is so great. I'm mad they took out the theaters so fast before I got to rewatch again.
Omg yes! I watched it two times in theater than I watched it last night on my tv and had to rent it. But man what a movie, not a sexy romcom Ike I was expecting but a sexy drama/romance/ sports all in one, loved it!
i saw it in theaters tonight.
great reaction - but everyone's the villain! Nobody loves anyone else purely, they all need each other they all manipulate and override eachother - they all need eachother in unhealthy ways, all flawed- the throuple agenda is strong, and the best case I've ever seen for it, ha.
also lol she didn't 'come in' to their friendship - Patrick literally introduced them - its his fault lmao - they're they only two in the world that suit her, and her them. I love love her character because we haven't seen anything like her onscreen in years.
What a great reaction! I've seen this film an embarrassing amount of times and yet I still learned new things from your analysis
lot of reaction content out there, v little of it thoughtful and attentive. i've seen this film twice now (it really stayed w me after the first viewing) and thought about it quite a bit, but you guys keyed in on things i hadn't yet considered. well done; i'm subscribing for sure.
47:27 I said the same thing !!! I didn’t wanna be weird but like I noticed with pat there was tongue and with art there wasn’t (from what I could see ofc) if it was intentional they really did a good job at creating those differences.
This is my favorite movie of ... the past five years?
your guys' analysis of these characters was soo spot on!! I saw this alone in imax & it immediately became my favorite film of the year so far. I love how complex these characters are & the use of tennis as a sort of allegory. makes for such an interesting love triangle/story that you can go on & on about forever! luca's movies are great, his last couldn't have been different from this one but I enjoyed it just as much. it's called Bones & All-- I think you'd find it really interesting if you're not squeamish with body horror :)
I'll definitely try to check it out at some point! As a horror fan, I'm definitely not averse to body horror (and I just looked it up and saw that Timothée Chalamet is in it, which is even more incentive to watch it).
The talk at the end was like a chat with friends. Loved how y'all kept adding things to the conversation. So much like my thought process after finishing the movie lol
One thing I would add to the convo, is that Patrick was (and probably still is) very wealthy. They mention his family having huge state at the party. So him being "down on his luck" might just be him not giving a fuck about anything or cosplaying as poor for the whole underdog arc. There's still a chance that his family disowned him for some reason, tho. But I thought it was a cool detail to look back to and wonder!
Thanks for the reaction guys ❤
Great reaction. Keep shining! ❤
Great reaction, I didn't catch some of what you caught! Honestly cool, I'm following :)
You're very right about Tashi's race and her having had to work hard - she mentions the racism she faced and that her family couldn't afford to send her to the kind of private school the boys went to. So yeah, her interest in Art must have been rekindled when he finally started making progress.
Imo though, Tashi did not homewreck the boys - my buddy Art did that all by himself. Think about it: Pat wasn't responsible for Tashi's injury. Why did Art lash out at him? They could've still been friends after Pat & Tashi broke up. Especially since she didn't even want him yet. Ruined things with his best friend for a girl he wasn't even hanging out with like that until the injury. Weirdo💀 😂
Anyway you're making me want to watch it again in the theater, if it's still on!
I said this in another comment but Pat really got the short end of the stick in that situation. He lost his girlfriend AND his best friend/unrequited love in one fell swoop. And his only real crime was... not wanting to be Tashi's lapdog? Wanting to be her peer? Not only that, but the fact that he wasn't there when Tashi got injured and his last real interaction with her was their big fight. The guilt he must have felt. In light of all that, it's not surprising why his life went so downhill afterwards. I feel like the movie tries to make you distrust him from the start, when in reality he's the most screwed over of the three. I can definitely see myself being more sympathetic to him during a rewatch.
@@ChannelNamePending699 He did get the shortest stick in a way now that you mention it yeah I agree. In the sense that their whole dynamic is like an axis that went officer. Art and Pat were good with their status quo, not acting on their mutual attraction, but also not being serious about tennis or anything else.
Tashi comes in, but you can't (conventionally) be 3 to tango. So from then on, the balance is broken and there's always one of the boys feeling left out.
Except Pat ended up isolated from them for much longer than Art sat on the sidelines for ^^"
i feel like u guys really get the interpretation of this movie they needed polyamory!!!
So I have this theory that Patrick is bi.... but Art is not. Which may be why they never actually got together like that. For Art it really was just a good friendship, even if Patrick may or may not have wanted more. It would also serve the narrative of why Patrick's life has fallen apart after he and Tashi broke up... he lost his girlfriend to his best friend, who was really the only person he truly felt connected with - and may or may not have had unrequited feelings for. His life being in shambles, never able to really apply himself despite being the better tennis player - even the comment about 'he smells' from the guys at the motel. Those are all things that suggest depression. I think Patrick wanted to be with Art and maybe he didn't fully realize that until Art was already gone.
As for the final match and who won... .in tennis you need 2 points in order to win a tie break and the final scene was only one point (which Patrick would have won because Art was over the net). So we actually don't know who wins that final match, because the movie ends there. But according to the screenplay writer, they ended it there because it doesn't matter who actually wins in the end. What matters is that they all got what they wanted from that last scene - the boys were playing tennis together again and Tashi got to watch some 'good fucking tennis' which is all she's ever wanted to do.
I think they both are bi but Art isn’t willing to come to terms with it
Art could also be bisexual too, but a repressed one with a preference for women. just to reference the director about Patrick and Art’s relationship, is not just about being jealous of each other because one of them gets to date Tashi, but it is also about wanting one another and the fear that not only they might lose the girl but they might lose the other in process. Art showcases this jealousy after asking Patrick to tell him if he’s had sex with Tashi, he is jealous not only that Patrick got to be with Tashi but he also got reminded that he was being “left out” by his supposed best friend whom he may have repressed feelings for. It could be a platonic relationship and I believe it is but I also believe there’s more to it than just some platonic friendship, it could be both platonic and romantic which is how Josh O’Connor described their dynamic during the Challengers press tour.
Also, this is what Luca had to say about the ambiguous ending “They are acting out for 13 years the possibility of going back to that hotel room to find again that beautiful moment of burgeoning desires and innocence. And at the same time, to feel at ease with one another, the way they were there. So, throughout the entire arc, that’s what they’re trying to do. And finally, with the rivalry at that heightened level, the triangle finally found itself sitting in the same place, but now on the court.” and “I needed to get this very, very visually amped up and really immersed for the audience to understand how much it meant for them not to win over the other, but to be back together, all of them.”
we see Art getting visibly flustered by his physio bending his leg back, he's attracted to men he's just super repressed (and a liar) which is part of what he's overcoming in the end
Art is so obviously bi but uncomfortable about it, I don't know what you're on about
@stonerjhope finally I haven't seen anyone talk about it but I def feel that was supposed to be Art's indication he's bi, just like how the tinder scene confirmed Patrick being bi
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Literslky art was the on3 I hated the least. He at least was a goo$ person, Tasha and Patrick awful. It’s okay. I love Zendaya I hated her character.
U people r atleast realizing that art is the worst friend or a snake but I saw other reactions and some of them r pissed off on Patrick for being "toxic" when clearly Tashi is the one who is a horrible character
I think all three of them are selfish and toxic for each other 😅 which of course makes them all the more perfect for each other
@@ChannelNamePending699 Absolutely