Hi Brian & Megan, Great review on really good product. I purchased this for my 5 year old grandson and the smile on his face after he takes off, flies the pattern for 5 minutes and then greases a landing with no bounce, PRICELESS.........
Oh yeah the landing gear do pop out quite often I did do the tape hack that you showed on the video and it's working better they seem to stay in thanks again for all your help
I don't own a rc airplane yet but i have been watching you fly for a couple of years now. I never get tired of your test flights. Loads of fun. I might spring on my first rc air plane and this might be my starter. Thank you for these awesome videos.
Sean, this plane would be a great "First plane"...but just keep in mind, the 1.3m Bigfoot is also another great RTF plane. It's not a TON more money, but it's a LOT more plane ;) Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm-.html Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP.html Both are excellent choices, given they're being sold in RTF (ready to fly). You just need 4 AA batteries for the Transmitter, and a few minutes to get the battery charged, and you'll be flying. Pick a calm day when you decide to take the plunge!
@@BrianPhillipsRC My first flight, i took a nose dive and broke the propeller. I should have practiced on the ground more first. Unfortunately they are sold out of propellers. Not sure if there is a comparable propeller but seeing they are sold out, I guess I am not the only one doing accidental nose dives lol.
You have the best camera crew bar none. I am very impressed. Does she fly too???? Your flying is pretty darn good too. I am 80 and still trying to keep one in the air but having a ball anyway. Great review as always.
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For first time/new remote control airplane people, I recommend purchasing a couple extra propellers and an extra set of landing gear. The plane is freaking awesome, I just suck as an rc pilot and I am hard on the equipment lol. The power is absolutely amazing. I just have to get use to the controls. Thanks for the recommendation of this plane Brian.
Hello, great review as always. One thing about the transmitter. It does what it needs to do to fly the plane w authority. Although it can be seen as a hinderance to some, it is a great size for children to learn to fly. A full size transmitter can sometimes be to big for small hands. Most kids take to something this size much easier.
Yeah, I agree - smaller is good for kids. My son could hardly fit onto an NX8 until very recently. The "Batman" controller was always a better fit when he was young...same here on this plane.
Brian something for you to try. When you put the landing gear on, put a foam wedge over it with tape, this may help keep them from coming out on landing.
Great video Brian. Unfortunately, in Upstate NY old man winter seemed to come out of no where and curtail my flying. I like this better than the Sports Cub S2. A lot more "solid" than the Sports Cub and better performance. Same price as the Turbo Timber which is better with flaps, and as of today 11/29 on sale for $129.99. I feel Arrow makes great RC planes and will certainly purchase soon. Thanks.
I hate winter ;( As for this VS the Turbo Timber UMX....I agree about the basic plane, but the RTF makes this a GREAT choice for the newb...HH needs to get the Turbo Timber UMX in a RTF package ASAP ;)
A brushless motor, wow. I would like to see all planes come with brushless motors. Megan had a bad day on the video following your flying. It made me realize just how stinking GOOD she usually is. Megans 'bad day' was very much like most others good days. She really has me spoiled on the videos, thanks for doing that. Those ailerons would make great flaps and use the end of the wing for outboard ailerons, not that it needs any modification. The UMX Turbo Timber has flaps and lights and is less money so I'll stay with mine but the Arrows Pioneer is a good plane.
Yep - all these RTF's ought to be using Brushless now-a-days...and for the prices we're being expected to pay, DEFINATELLY need Brushless Motors. I noticed she missed the plane twice or three times, and that is SUPER uncommon!!! As for Turbo Timber UMX vs Pioneer, I agree - if you have a DSMX Tx, the Turbo Timber is probably a better option, but if you're new and have nothing yet...the Pioneer is an EXCELLENT choice!
People just know that this plane is really nice I'm new and flew it the first time it was amazing and I was really excited to share this with my grandson but it broke on a minor landing crash . What broke was the servo horn for the stearing wheel and rudder so if you can get some spares or it's going to break on your plane also. I guess I could epoxy it?? But I shouldn't have to I know it's only 160 bucks but it's a lot of money for some of us. Just know the cub s at least has the parts for the repair. Good luck guys it is nice to fly but no parts listed for the repair.
You can 100% sure fix it. I have fixed them with heat (flame), believe it or not. I'll take a paper clip, and then melt it into the two pieces of plastic, and then cover that with CA or some other glue (like epoxy, if necessary)....gotta just find a REALLY small one, or even a push pin you don't mind sacrificing. You can also make a plastic "alloy" and feed in a straw or stir, into the melt, and MAKE UP for the gaps....kinda like tig welding. Either way, I almost NEVER buy replacement parts, but I crash ALL the time - LOL ;) $160 planes are the hardest ones to find parts for, very unfortunately, but follow our link, and you can see what parts are actually available if my suggestion leaves you underwhelmed. Some guys will get TWO for their grandchildren or children, but I've always found I just can't bring myself to kill a perfectly good plane to fix another one - I just kill BOTH then have to fix them both - LOL ;)
I bought this plane when it first came out and I absolutely love it. I'm a noob though. I've flown this plane in 20 mph wind gust and it handled it like a champ. I have to say now I'm eyeballing that new 6s habu with flaps but then I need a controller and I don't know how to link it to the plane But I digress. This pioneer for the price and has rudder control too has been great for me. I only got into rc planes in 2020 sitting at home during the rona going off.
@@BrianPhillipsRC yeah I realize that after I sent that comment. I had recently watched the videos on the big foot and that new habu 6s back to back. I still want the habu. I am interested in the big foot too because the prop on my carbon cub blew apart when I went for the maiden. It never made it off the ground and of course a replacement prop is on backorder. Very is disappointing. Anyway, I really dig on your channel. I watch your unboxing and build videos on planes I probably won't ever get just because of all the info. Like I said I'm new to hobby. I have this pioneer a habu sts and a carbon cub that I can't fly.
Hey Brian I just wanted to say thank you for the ideas on fixing my servo horn on the pioneer I panicked a little I have to say I'll get to the repair and let you know how it goes thanks a lot
EXCELLENT! I was concerned you might give up on it...but many more situations like that to come, and you'll learn little things here and there, and soon enough you'll be a pro! Very glad you overcame this issue!
Hey Brian, I'm glad to say that I panicked over a easy fix thanks again for your suggestions on how to repair my broken servo horn on my pioneer cleaner. Moving forward I was testing my sugar before I had a meal last night because I'm diabetic of course and the test strip that I use is plastic with a strip of metal infused in it so I pulled out the plane pulled off the wheel from the tail started measuring can it hit me hey suggestions Brian gave me were great but I have something here that might work let me try and learn how to fix things with things I can find at home... So I said hey Jackson my grandson look what I figured out with Brian's help give me an idea to use my sugar test strip to maybe repair our plane 😁😁😁 he was very happy which made me very happy and I told him about you Brian. And how you encourage me to try and repair it so now I'm encouraged to encourage you to learn with me so when I'm not here anymore maybe you can do this and remember me okay so anyway I started measuring and I pulled your tail wheel away from the plane made a few bends in my plastic test strip dry fitted it heated up a small finishing nail and melted a few adjustment holes like in a servo horn for adjustments if needed. As I looked at him and was explaining what I was doing curiosity look on his face was priceless and I kind of think he understood so I pulled out some 5 minutes gorilla glue epoxy put a small amount on a piece of cardboard and he said ooh that stinks LOL as tears poured down my cheek. Happy ones but the same . Anyway we mixed and mixed and mixed and mixed and laughed and left and then I explained to him that this was an epoxy and what it was for so we took the fitted test strip and fitted it onto the tail and then the tail wheel under it with a small amount of epoxy. So we sat talked and left together and I explained about it it needing to set up and dry boy he didn't want to wait LOL I love this kid I hope he remembers me anyway today and grabbed him grandson let's go check out the plane OMG He was like a bullet so we went to the field where we took our maiden flight ✈️ and oh boy his eyes lit up his smile grew bigger and bigger and all I was worried about was hurting his feelings if I crashed his plane again. But it's okay I explained to him like you did to me and many others like me that watch your videos that we all will crash even after we're good as Brian Phillips it just happens sometimes and told him if I'm not here pick you up and fix it that I want you to fix it yourself and no you can do anything that we did together if I'm not here he did not understand what I was saying but he will one day back to the repair it works like a dream the metal and the test strip gave it some rigidity and I think it might be stronger than it was we flew it for about an hour and we both had a great time together so thank you Brian and film crew your wife of course me and my grandson will be watching you and your wife film more videos together as long as we can. It's just funny how I panicked and got upset over and easy fix and what came of it with my grandson and me it was priceless and for that I thank you Brian for the encouragement to try to repair our plane with anything that could have possibly help. Keep up the hard work you guys my grandson Jax and I will be watching and learning and hopefully getting better so I can get our Cessna HSD 2000mm before I go so we can fly it together 😁✈️😇
Tried ordering through the link, but my order was rejected. Unfortunately it looks like shipping to Canada is no longer available, which is a pity because it seems like a great little plane.
I'm so sorry to hear that, and hope we can interest you in some other offerings that DO ship to Canada... We know these guys ship to Canada for most items bprc.me/FMS
Hey Brian I was wondering where could I get the rudder horn for the pioneer at all I see in the parts list is the rear wheel it's so tiny and flimsy I broke it first flight serve that horn for the rudder or any of them for that matter thanks
Sure can! She's a touch faster, but can fly slow too. If I were going to fly inside, I'd want to add flaps somehow, and then I could really slow her down!
Im a complete rookie when it comes to rc planes. I cannot find a video on how to work on this plane. I’m trying to replace the rear wheel. Any tips you can give me? I love the videos btw!
You can fly her and just leave the wheel off ;) That being said, if you want to fix it... 1) Do you have the wheel? If so... 2) get some CA 3) get some Kicker 4) get something real small to push onto the axle...you'll have to get creative 5) slide the wheel on, then your "retainer" 6) Put some CA (like a TINY DRIP) on the tip of the retainer, AWAY FROM THE WHEEL 7) spray or drip the KICKER on the CA drip and it will set almost instantly If not... 1) Find a spare button. 2) get some CA 3) get some Kicker 4) get something real small to push onto the axle...you'll have to get creative 5) slide the wheel on, then your "retainer" 6) Put some CA (like a TINY DRIP) on the tip of the retainer, AWAY FROM THE WHEEL 7) spray or drip the KICKER on the CA drip and it will set almost instantly Some choices for you... HH Stuff CA Foam Safe bit.ly/30UbDPL Kicker Foam Safe bit.ly/2PRd5Mm | bit.ly/364UYhx Foam2Foam bit.ly/30RNnh0 RC Stand bit.ly/3bdD1O4 Kicker amzn.to/2CQf24D CA Med NOT FOAM SAFE - amzn.to/2D0x18i CA Foam Safe - Med amzn.to/2E2l29z CA Foam Safe - Thin amzn.to/2COE6sw Mucilage bit.ly/3fdfzQp
I believe you can if you take out the Y splitter and put the other aileron on another channel, and you will have to factory default the AR631, then you should be able to set it up like a PNF.
Great video! I've been scrolling through the comments and it seems like you answer just about every one, so hopefully I can get some input to a question I had! Do you think you'd be able to use the floats from the UMX timber on the Pioneer? Looking at the underside of both, it looks like you'd just need to cut some slots into the Pioneer fuselage for the floats with an exacto knife? And then wrap some tape on the wire inserts for the floats to ensure a tight fit? I'm not sure if you have a set of UMX floats to check, but the UMX timber and Pioneer seem about the same size... For a first plane (I have 3D heli and quad experience, but no planes yet), the EPP foam Pioneer looks A LOT more resilient than the UMX timbers which are supposedly pretty fragile. I want to learn over grass, but I have a large pond in my back yard, and my main goal is for a small float plane... I have a multiprotocol radio, but the RTF Pioneer looks like an idiot proof, capable, and durable plane, but only if I can make the UMX floats (or some other float set from another micro, if there is one?) work on it - what do you think?
You could also just make a plastic pocket with some old pop bottle material, then they'd be removable... Cut about 1" X 1" piece, and heat with low flame, then drape it over your steel float support. Then pinch it and allow it too cool...then you'll make a flat spot, then just glue this into a pocket you cut into two spots on the bottom of the fuselage....take care to keep this mechanics maintain the CG!!!!! Should work like a champ, or just steal part from an unfortunately crashed Timber. More than one way to skin that cat, to be 100% honest, but I think you can handle the basics. Good luck! And yes, I do try to reply to all comments, except for the super rude ones - I just block those and or the commenter. I have enough problems in my life, than to deal with jerks on my hobby channel. Thanks for being a part of this wonderful group of like minded rc addicts ;)
Hi I have an hobby zone aeroscout currently and I was wondering if I should get a valiant for my next plane and I was wondering if I can bind the ready to fly remote from my aero scout to the valiant thanks in advance love your vid‘s
You CAN, but I wouldn't recommend it. You will have very limited control over where and how the flaps deploy. If you think you're going to be in the hobby for a while, you may want to "bite the bullet" and get an NX8 ;) NX bit.ly/3mbVuNB Valiant bit.ly/3rUTtsn
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hey thanks for responding much appreciated I think I’m just going to bind it to my regular Remote right now and then down the road upgrade to an NX8
Brian. I think I saw in one of your videos, that you were wearing thin gloves while flying in cold weather. If I'm correct, where did you get them, and how well did they work in keeping your fingers warm. Also were you still able to feel your control knobs. Let me know please. THANKS
You are correct. They're Nitrile gloves, and they work well...not as warm a proper cold weather gloves, but they help a LOT and I keep dexterity. Nitrile Venom Rubber Work Gloves amzn.to/3G63AAY
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hey Brian. I am 5' 10" average hand size. Would you suggest the large or the medium size. I don't want to have them too big with sloppy finger tips, but I want them to fit snug so I can feel my control knobs. Compare my hands to yours. What size do you recommend. Love your videos and the information I get from them. Peace.
We have a 6oz weight limit in our indoor flying space. You said it's under 250 g. The specs on the website don't show the flying weight. Is it in the manual? Thanks.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Know your in the middle of Iowa, but if you would ever want to join us for one of our Sunday morning indoor flies, let me know. We fly in the field house at Sun Prairie High School near Madison, WI. Probably too far of a drive, but just thought I would put it out there. We fly from 8:30 -11:30 a.m. The only thing I can guarantee is it won't be cold or windy! LOL This month we fly on the 5th and 19th.
Another great review thanks. Just bought one from your link for my neighbor 🤙 If I’m seeing it right it seems like it would be more resilient than the foam on the Sport Cub S2 (more like the foam on the Eachine)? Also, do you know if it will bind with a DXS?
Pioneer is a very good, but CLOSER to toy grade. The UMX Turbo timber is a more expensive choice with LED's and FLAPS...two features that I generally demand on a STOL plane, BUT this Pioneer is more resilient to damage do the foam choice. It's light, but still strong, and it had plenty of power! As for RTF vs BNF - I prefer BNF only because we have the gear to make this plane fly right now...but if I were a newer RC pilot, this would be a large cost issue to overcome. RTF means I can get it as a gift for someone that has nothing (well, 4 AA's)...so you have to weigh this into your decision.
My Pioneer arrived yesterday. Unfortunately with the standard time change, it's dark by the time I get home from work, so I'll have to wait until this weekend to fly it. A couple of "duh!" questions if I may: 1 - Am I correct in interpreting that the SAFE stabilization feature is engaged when the switch is flipped to the rear as you're looking at the face of the transmitter? I don't see a reference to it or markings on the radio. I see you marked it with a black marker, so I can't see it on this tiny screen. 2- You mention two bind buttons, but I don't see you use them. It appears to bind by just turning on the transmitter then plugging in the battery. If so, then what are the buttons for? Thanks
1) There are TWO bind buttons on the transmitter - why??? I can't figure out - LOL 2) Daylight savings time is so dumb...I want them to make the daylight savings adjustment the OTHER WAY!!! 3) Stability mode (like SAFE) is back. This will auto level the plane. If in DOUBT please take the plane, get it powered up as usual, then throttle at 0%, and be careful...then flip the plane over in Stability mode (like SAFE) and see if the ailerons are trying to flip the plane back to level ;) This is a test you need to get used to doing every time you're in quesiton. You will need to do this when you advance to more sophisticated planes too, so start learning how to do it now, while it's easy ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC The funny thing is, I wish we'd stay on daylight savings time. On standard time, the rising sun is in my eyes driving to work in the morning and the setting sun is in my eyes when I'm driving home. Plus, it's dark by the time I get home so that nixes flying on weekdays until the time changes back to DST. Ugh.
Hi Brian and the beautiful Megan How would you rate the arrows Vector against the Spektrum Safe which do think is the best OR are they both as good as one another ?. You could always glue a small cover on the landing gear anyway. Thumbs up anyway. Steve
Thanks Steve Arrows Vector is one of the best alternatives to SAFE that we've used. We have used a LOT, btw....but they usually do TOO much or NOT enough. Vector seems to be a great balance of angle demand (auto-leveling) and limited bank and pitch angles...which makes the plane STILL FLYABLE. Is it BETTER than AS3X/SAFE - no. Is it worse than AS3X/SAFE - also, no.
First to comment! Wow. Great video as always. Looks like a great little model to keep in the car when you need a quick flying fix. Seems like a more solid Timber UMX.
I think it's different animal form the Timber, but if you have a timber, and a DSMX Tx, this plane might be a bit "off the mark" in my opinion. This would still be a super fun gift idea!!!!
Awesome vid as alway @BrianPhilipsRC ! I'm debating between buying this one or the Hobbyzone Sport Cub 2. I'm a beginner but I feel like the Pioneer could provide more fun in a long term aspect. What do you guys think ?
Pioneer has brushless, so it's almost a no-brainer with that detail, BUT the Sport Cub S2 UMX flies really good if the wind is VERY low...like 1-2mph or less
It's ok I guess but just be careful of the servo horns they are very brittle and thin I could say mine is down cause it's rudder horn broke on a minor crash landing! Minor... And I'm looking for replacements but I don't see any. But the cub s they compared to it has all the horns and parts you need so ??? Think about it. I really believe in Brian and his wife tells us the truth and will still go by his review of any planes . I think he just missed this one. He tried to crash it and had a hard time doing it lol but might have been nice to see the horns are very thin and brittle.
@@hadyalbagu8615 yes the price that the servo wire hooks up to for the rudder all others fine but easy fix and no problems since. Minor sideways landing due to gust of wind hit sideways and tweeked wheel and broke the horn . I have over 100 flights on this plane now and it's very forgiving.
I was thinking the same thing, but I guess it really depends because this model is a ready to fly that comes with a battery, charger and transmitter, while the UMX Turbo Timber does not but it has flaps. Personally I'd buy the Turbo Timber if you're already in the hobby and have a transmitter, batteries and charger, otherwise buy this model as it comes with everything needed to get started.
Turbo Timber is BETTER, but it's a BNF (bind and fly) meaning, if you don't have the Spektrum (or at least DSMX Transmitter) then you'll be into this UMX for probably 2-3 times what you're into the Pioneer. THAT BEING SAID - if you have the Transmitter, you might actually prefer the Timber UMX. I only say this because I wouldn't by a RTF for myself...BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO A NEWB - they won't have all that other stuff, so it quickly turns into a frustrating and expensive exercise in futility. Horizon NEEEEEEEEDS to make a RTF for the Timber, or they'll keep getting crushed by these RTF offerings, even if they are inferior in some ways.
Hi, As always great videos. Kind of out of context but do you have a reference (web etc) that explains the terminology for rc batteries and chargers: LiPo, 4s, mAhr, capacity etc. All this stuff is a bit confusing to a newbie! LOL
I have some videos that will help you out... Playlist Smart Batteries... ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7fO2Vc4A4frWRhCmZo2qxG.html Non-Plane Videos (you'll have to scroll through and pick the ones that wet your whistle)... ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5m50UjuP_p5qM-_JGifFp_.html
They're SLT, I think...but not 100% sure. They don't really talk about it that I know of. It may have been DSMX, but I HIGHLY doubt it, since it's more expensive.
Anyone one of those crashed would break my umx sport cub s. A. "Not a crash 9:22" on concrete. Sport cub s - Broken wing. B. Straight down Into the grass- sport cub s - The motor would dislodge, bent shaft, broken front, and or broken prop. So far this plane looks robost. How does it fly in a non stable mode, is squirly? Are parts in case you do damage it?
I agree with your assessments, and it's got the brushless motor ;) As for all the modes, I think it flies similar to AS3X or SAFE...but all planes in SAFE fly, to a certain extent, wonky...when you're a new pilot, most don't care or notice - you just notice a non-crashed plane coming home when you're done flying - LOL ;)
I have watched this video about 7 times and don't see how in the world you are rolling this plane. I bought one and it is just not as agile as the one you are flying in this video. Any tips?
Gotta use Rudder and Ailerons. Also, it was pretty windy in this flight, if I recall...that does make it a bit more agile appearing, at times, and also less controllable at other times ;)
I just did my first flight today with this plane. Went into a tree and killed the throttle and it fell maybe 10 foot on the prop and I had to push down on the prop and it snapped back and is working properly again. I am just so new to this hobby I was wondering if anyone knew if this was a safety feature? The crashes here are so so much worse. Any help would be much appreciated!
Ok guys I just ordered it and wanted to know how you All feel about this plane. Am I going to fail? I know it's only 159 dollars but I'm wanting a HSD CESSNA 2000mm they all say bigger is easier to fly ? Idk Guys give me some input thanks
You can do it. Don't give up. It takes time, and you will make a LOT of mistakes, but stick with it. A few planes down your timeline of pilotry and you'll be all over the HSD Cessna! Remember, my first plane was a 10g Flyzone Inum (and the Sport Cub S UMX - almost the same time) - both were crashed so many times, I can't count. Stick with it!
Alsoy plane came with a bent up prop. Andy landing gear didn't even want to stay in so did the tape trick from Brian and it's a little better I guess. I'm really disappointed in the quality of the plane as far as the horns they are so thin I can't believe they didn't break just using the rutter and the other phorns let alone a minor crash Guys.im really just mad I didn't buy a bigger stronger plane . I just can't believe how thin the horns are I know it's just foam but still too weak for the foam is all I can say. Bigger problem is looking for parts I can find the rear wheel but don't come with the horn that you need to remove to replace the wheel????? Wtf do I do .I'm on a budget and I did very well on the flights so ????? I want to learn on a rudder system to really get the most of flying I could I guess tape the rudder and not use it but what is the point guys . I'm waiting on a response from you and to let me know what you think. Should I have bought the cub s?? Thanks for your time people I know it's a long message . sorry 😔
Your comment went to "Held for Review" due to this... " Guys.im " ....google thinks it's a link. Okay, I understand you're on a budget, and I don't want you to get discouraged...this is not uncommon to be frustrated after having a crash or issue that takes you out of the sky when you're all excited to fly. The plane you got is GOOD, but it's still SMALL...and you have to be super careful with them, even if they're better for strength than say, the Sport Cub S2 UMX (a great flying plane, but far less capable than you're, and way slower). I don't think you "should have bought the Carbon Cub SS 1.3m" - this would have been a lot more money. Based on your issues, you just need to get this plane flying. Thin control horns are always going to be an issue on SMALL planes, so I don't want you to go into this with unreasonable expectations. Planes are delicate...all of them, but you're still learning a lot and new, and this will be hard to hear, but you need to be SUPER careful with them. You're going to crash, and possibly break them (EASY) but this is one of the hard realities you'll face as you progress into the hobby. The feelings you're having are not out of ordinary, but you will have to start figuring out what you need to do to these "stock" planes to make then live a bit longer, if you have certain bad habits. Not sure if you got my reply the other day, but if you take a plastic bottle, you can really easily make a better, more strong control horn. It's not hard, but where you feel there's a weakness, you can improve upon these weaknesses with mods. I did TONS of this when I was new to the hobby. Anyway, I'm going to reply with my standard "Beginner planes" again, since there's links to the videos too, and maybe you just need a BIGGER plane that's going to give you a bit better chance at success, but don't be too hard on yourself...flying is HARD...it takes a lot of work and persistence to get where you want to be. Don't give up. Don't let your frustration cause you to quit. Focus your frustration into resolve and make use of it. You'll get there. Keep at it. Beginner planes... Description | Purchase | Videos Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/38Kilv1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl.html Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc.html Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/3bS2r3O - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM.html T-28 Trojan 1.1m bit.ly/3eOh9Lk - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc6-_gHuXM6a1Nf_2nRxrmlc.html Apprentice 1.2m RTF bit.ly/2OIjVHd - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS.html Sport Cub S2 UMX bit.ly/3cDYUW1 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy.html AeroScout 1.1m - bit.ly/30MNn1c - ua-cam.com/video/vfZZQXx7jU4/v-deo.html Trekker 1.2 RTF bit.ly/34jhgLZ | PNP bit.ly/35xOPu8 - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7b7RhCrnT4x4AYrqRVhFHf.html Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm-.html Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP.html
Hey Brian I'm so impressed with your advice and encouragement I really do believe you actually care about others that are interested in learning how to fly and it's not just income to you. I just got done leaving a reply on how me and my grandson fixed our pioneer servo horn with your advice and encouragement of course anyway I've seen another reply or question from someone one of your viewers saying to glue in the landing gear on the pioneer. I was wondering are they made this way to take away some damage from the rest of the plane when they come out? You know like NASCAR are designed to come apart and take up energy to save the driver anyway what I'm saying is he said to glue a piece of foam and to hold the landing gear in you said put a piece of tape on it to hold it in a little tighter you think if they wanted it to be permanent they would have made it permanent do they make it to where it came out for a reason like NASCAR does she take up some energy instead of trashing something else on the plane thank you looking forward to your input and answer my grandson Jackson says what's up LOL
Hi Brian & Megan, Great review on really good product. I purchased this for my 5 year old grandson and the smile on his face after he takes off, flies the pattern for 5 minutes and then greases a landing with no bounce, PRICELESS.........
WOW - 5 yo?!?!? Amazing!
Oh yeah the landing gear do pop out quite often I did do the tape hack that you showed on the video and it's working better they seem to stay in thanks again for all your help
I don't own a rc airplane yet but i have been watching you fly for a couple of years now. I never get tired of your test flights. Loads of fun. I might spring on my first rc air plane and this might be my starter. Thank you for these awesome videos.
Sean, this plane would be a great "First plane"...but just keep in mind, the 1.3m Bigfoot is also another great RTF plane. It's not a TON more money, but it's a LOT more plane ;)
Bigfoot 1.3m RTF - bit.ly/30mYdOq - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7elVLLXihkLRs_J4QQ0Hm-.html
Pioneer 620mm RTF - bit.ly/2YotgbY - ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5DZarP-qgPO3IEliNvnPuP.html
Both are excellent choices, given they're being sold in RTF (ready to fly). You just need 4 AA batteries for the Transmitter, and a few minutes to get the battery charged, and you'll be flying. Pick a calm day when you decide to take the plunge!
@@BrianPhillipsRC My first flight, i took a nose dive and broke the propeller. I should have practiced on the ground more first. Unfortunately they are sold out of propellers. Not sure if there is a comparable propeller but seeing they are sold out, I guess I am not the only one doing accidental nose dives lol.
Do it. Just know it will not be your only plane
5:04 WAHHHUHUHUHOOHOOHOOOO
LOL - Glad you noticed ;)
It cracked me up!
I love how clean your house always is. You own 100’s of planes, yet your house still looks like intelligent adults live there!
LOL - They're in the basement - don't let me off the hook that easy - LOL ;)
You have the best camera crew bar none. I am very impressed. Does she fly too???? Your flying is pretty darn good too. I am 80 and still trying to keep one in the air but having a ball anyway. Great review as always.
Thanks Billy! Megan, my wife and wonderful camera crew, is very good with the camera!!!
Thanks Brian ! I believe that's what I'm getting for my grandsons ! AS always your reviews are the Best !
Thanks Johnny! Great gift idea indeed! This plane is so much fun, and won't break with less than stellar landings, or even some out-right crashes!!!
HI BRIAN AND CAMARA CREW. ARROWS ARE BRINGING OUT SOME VERY NICE VERY AFFORDABLE AND FLY GREAT ALSO A GIRO IN MOST PLANES NOW REALLY HELPS. THANKS FOR THE GREAT FILMING CAMARA CREW 🌻. HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND 🇬🇧💂🇺🇸🗽♥️🕊️✌️👍
Right on - they sure are!
I just purchased mine can't wait to fly it asap.thanks for the detailed review as always top notch video much appreciated.
Thanks taco stu!
For first time/new remote control airplane people, I recommend purchasing a couple extra propellers and an extra set of landing gear. The plane is freaking awesome, I just suck as an rc pilot and I am hard on the equipment lol. The power is absolutely amazing. I just have to get use to the controls. Thanks for the recommendation of this plane Brian.
Thanks Sean! Good point with spare props for the beginner ;)
Hello, great review as always. One thing about the transmitter. It does what it needs to do to fly the plane w authority. Although it can be seen as a hinderance to some, it is a great size for children to learn to fly. A full size transmitter can sometimes be to big for small hands. Most kids take to something this size much easier.
Yeah, I agree - smaller is good for kids. My son could hardly fit onto an NX8 until very recently. The "Batman" controller was always a better fit when he was young...same here on this plane.
Wow, looks like a good one. Thank you guys.
Welcome!
Brian something for you to try. When you put the landing gear on, put a foam wedge over it with tape, this may help keep
them from coming out on landing.
Okay, thanks for the tip Bill!
Great video Brian. Unfortunately, in Upstate NY old man winter seemed to come out of no where and curtail my flying. I like this better than the Sports Cub S2. A lot more "solid" than the Sports Cub and better performance. Same price as the Turbo Timber which is better with flaps, and as of today 11/29 on sale for $129.99. I feel Arrow makes great RC planes and will certainly purchase soon. Thanks.
I hate winter ;( As for this VS the Turbo Timber UMX....I agree about the basic plane, but the RTF makes this a GREAT choice for the newb...HH needs to get the Turbo Timber UMX in a RTF package ASAP ;)
A brushless motor, wow. I would like to see all planes come with brushless motors. Megan had a bad day on the video following your flying. It made me realize just how stinking GOOD she usually is. Megans 'bad day' was very much like most others good days. She really has me spoiled on the videos, thanks for doing that. Those ailerons would make great flaps and use the end of the wing for outboard ailerons, not that it needs any modification. The UMX Turbo Timber has flaps and lights and is less money so I'll stay with mine but the Arrows Pioneer is a good plane.
Yep - all these RTF's ought to be using Brushless now-a-days...and for the prices we're being expected to pay, DEFINATELLY need Brushless Motors.
I noticed she missed the plane twice or three times, and that is SUPER uncommon!!!
As for Turbo Timber UMX vs Pioneer, I agree - if you have a DSMX Tx, the Turbo Timber is probably a better option, but if you're new and have nothing yet...the Pioneer is an EXCELLENT choice!
People just know that this plane is really nice I'm new and flew it the first time it was amazing and I was really excited to share this with my grandson but it broke on a minor landing crash . What broke was the servo horn for the stearing wheel and rudder so if you can get some spares or it's going to break on your plane also. I guess I could epoxy it?? But I shouldn't have to I know it's only 160 bucks but it's a lot of money for some of us. Just know the cub s at least has the parts for the repair. Good luck guys it is nice to fly but no parts listed for the repair.
You can 100% sure fix it. I have fixed them with heat (flame), believe it or not. I'll take a paper clip, and then melt it into the two pieces of plastic, and then cover that with CA or some other glue (like epoxy, if necessary)....gotta just find a REALLY small one, or even a push pin you don't mind sacrificing. You can also make a plastic "alloy" and feed in a straw or stir, into the melt, and MAKE UP for the gaps....kinda like tig welding.
Either way, I almost NEVER buy replacement parts, but I crash ALL the time - LOL ;)
$160 planes are the hardest ones to find parts for, very unfortunately, but follow our link, and you can see what parts are actually available if my suggestion leaves you underwhelmed. Some guys will get TWO for their grandchildren or children, but I've always found I just can't bring myself to kill a perfectly good plane to fix another one - I just kill BOTH then have to fix them both - LOL ;)
I bought this plane when it first came out and I absolutely love it. I'm a noob though. I've flown this plane in 20 mph wind gust and it handled it like a champ. I have to say now I'm eyeballing that new 6s habu with flaps but then I need a controller and I don't know how to link it to the plane But I digress. This pioneer for the price and has rudder control too has been great for me. I only got into rc planes in 2020 sitting at home during the rona going off.
The Habu 6S doesn't have flaps, I'm sorry...BUT it does fly very good ;)
Habu bit.ly/38Kilv1
@@BrianPhillipsRC yeah I realize that after I sent that comment. I had recently watched the videos on the big foot and that new habu 6s back to back. I still want the habu. I am interested in the big foot too because the prop on my carbon cub blew apart when I went for the maiden. It never made it off the ground and of course a replacement prop is on backorder. Very is disappointing. Anyway, I really dig on your channel. I watch your unboxing and build videos on planes I probably won't ever get just because of all the info. Like I said I'm new to hobby. I have this pioneer a habu sts and a carbon cub that I can't fly.
Loving the small plane videos!
Thanks Mike! This plane is very well done!
I extended the ailerons and it Flys like a umx timber!
Very cool!
Hey Brian I just wanted to say thank you for the ideas on fixing my servo horn on the pioneer I panicked a little I have to say I'll get to the repair and let you know how it goes thanks a lot
EXCELLENT! I was concerned you might give up on it...but many more situations like that to come, and you'll learn little things here and there, and soon enough you'll be a pro! Very glad you overcame this issue!
Hey Brian, I'm glad to say that I panicked over a easy fix thanks again for your suggestions on how to repair my broken servo horn on my pioneer cleaner. Moving forward I was testing my sugar before I had a meal last night because I'm diabetic of course and the test strip that I use is plastic with a strip of metal infused in it so I pulled out the plane pulled off the wheel from the tail started measuring can it hit me hey suggestions Brian gave me were great but I have something here that might work let me try and learn how to fix things with things I can find at home... So I said hey Jackson my grandson look what I figured out with Brian's help give me an idea to use my sugar test strip to maybe repair our plane 😁😁😁 he was very happy which made me very happy and I told him about you Brian. And how you encourage me to try and repair it so now I'm encouraged to encourage you to learn with me so when I'm not here anymore maybe you can do this and remember me okay so anyway I started measuring and I pulled your tail wheel away from the plane made a few bends in my plastic test strip dry fitted it heated up a small finishing nail and melted a few adjustment holes like in a servo horn for adjustments if needed. As I looked at him and was explaining what I was doing curiosity look on his face was priceless and I kind of think he understood so I pulled out some 5 minutes gorilla glue epoxy put a small amount on a piece of cardboard and he said ooh that stinks LOL as tears poured down my cheek. Happy ones but the same . Anyway we mixed and mixed and mixed and mixed and laughed and left and then I explained to him that this was an epoxy and what it was for so we took the fitted test strip and fitted it onto the tail and then the tail wheel under it with a small amount of epoxy. So we sat talked and left together and I explained about it it needing to set up and dry boy he didn't want to wait LOL I love this kid I hope he remembers me anyway today and grabbed him grandson let's go check out the plane OMG He was like a bullet so we went to the field where we took our maiden flight ✈️ and oh boy his eyes lit up his smile grew bigger and bigger and all I was worried about was hurting his feelings if I crashed his plane again. But it's okay I explained to him like you did to me and many others like me that watch your videos that we all will crash even after we're good as Brian Phillips it just happens sometimes and told him if I'm not here pick you up and fix it that I want you to fix it yourself and no you can do anything that we did together if I'm not here he did not understand what I was saying but he will one day back to the repair it works like a dream the metal and the test strip gave it some rigidity and I think it might be stronger than it was we flew it for about an hour and we both had a great time together so thank you Brian and film crew your wife of course me and my grandson will be watching you and your wife film more videos together as long as we can. It's just funny how I panicked and got upset over and easy fix and what came of it with my grandson and me it was priceless and for that I thank you Brian for the encouragement to try to repair our plane with anything that could have possibly help. Keep up the hard work you guys my grandson Jax and I will be watching and learning and hopefully getting better so I can get our Cessna HSD 2000mm before I go so we can fly it together 😁✈️😇
Cool little plane Brushless motor in nice A bit of extra power is always fun hehe ✌️
I agree! So nice they used a BRUSHLESS motor!!!
I'm sure it's simple, but how to replace the prop? Thanks. Great video.
Tried ordering through the link, but my order was rejected. Unfortunately it looks like shipping to Canada is no longer available, which is a pity because it seems like a great little plane.
I'm so sorry to hear that, and hope we can interest you in some other offerings that DO ship to Canada...
We know these guys ship to Canada for most items bprc.me/FMS
Hey Brian I was wondering where could I get the rudder horn for the pioneer at all I see in the parts list is the rear wheel it's so tiny and flimsy I broke it first flight serve that horn for the rudder or any of them for that matter thanks
I don't know for sure... Can you cut one from some plastic bottles you've got lying around? That's what I would do, if you're trying to FIX her ;)
Great video as always. Can I fly this inside of a soccer dome as a beginner or would you recommend the Sport Cub S or UMX Timber?
Sure can! She's a touch faster, but can fly slow too. If I were going to fly inside, I'd want to add flaps somehow, and then I could really slow her down!
Im a complete rookie when it comes to rc planes. I cannot find a video on how to work on this plane. I’m trying to replace the rear wheel. Any tips you can give me? I love the videos btw!
You can fly her and just leave the wheel off ;)
That being said, if you want to fix it...
1) Do you have the wheel?
If so...
2) get some CA
3) get some Kicker
4) get something real small to push onto the axle...you'll have to get creative
5) slide the wheel on, then your "retainer"
6) Put some CA (like a TINY DRIP) on the tip of the retainer, AWAY FROM THE WHEEL
7) spray or drip the KICKER on the CA drip and it will set almost instantly
If not...
1) Find a spare button.
2) get some CA
3) get some Kicker
4) get something real small to push onto the axle...you'll have to get creative
5) slide the wheel on, then your "retainer"
6) Put some CA (like a TINY DRIP) on the tip of the retainer, AWAY FROM THE WHEEL
7) spray or drip the KICKER on the CA drip and it will set almost instantly
Some choices for you...
HH Stuff
CA Foam Safe bit.ly/30UbDPL
Kicker Foam Safe bit.ly/2PRd5Mm | bit.ly/364UYhx
Foam2Foam bit.ly/30RNnh0
RC Stand bit.ly/3bdD1O4
Kicker amzn.to/2CQf24D
CA Med NOT FOAM SAFE - amzn.to/2D0x18i
CA Foam Safe - Med amzn.to/2E2l29z
CA Foam Safe - Thin amzn.to/2COE6sw
Mucilage bit.ly/3fdfzQp
Can I Reverse and do flaperons on my night timber with a NX6? Love the channel!
I believe you can if you take out the Y splitter and put the other aileron on another channel, and you will have to factory default the AR631, then you should be able to set it up like a PNF.
Great video! I've been scrolling through the comments and it seems like you answer just about every one, so hopefully I can get some input to a question I had! Do you think you'd be able to use the floats from the UMX timber on the Pioneer? Looking at the underside of both, it looks like you'd just need to cut some slots into the Pioneer fuselage for the floats with an exacto knife? And then wrap some tape on the wire inserts for the floats to ensure a tight fit? I'm not sure if you have a set of UMX floats to check, but the UMX timber and Pioneer seem about the same size...
For a first plane (I have 3D heli and quad experience, but no planes yet), the EPP foam Pioneer looks A LOT more resilient than the UMX timbers which are supposedly pretty fragile. I want to learn over grass, but I have a large pond in my back yard, and my main goal is for a small float plane... I have a multiprotocol radio, but the RTF Pioneer looks like an idiot proof, capable, and durable plane, but only if I can make the UMX floats (or some other float set from another micro, if there is one?) work on it - what do you think?
You could also just make a plastic pocket with some old pop bottle material, then they'd be removable...
Cut about 1" X 1" piece, and heat with low flame, then drape it over your steel float support. Then pinch it and allow it too cool...then you'll make a flat spot, then just glue this into a pocket you cut into two spots on the bottom of the fuselage....take care to keep this mechanics maintain the CG!!!!! Should work like a champ, or just steal part from an unfortunately crashed Timber. More than one way to skin that cat, to be 100% honest, but I think you can handle the basics.
Good luck!
And yes, I do try to reply to all comments, except for the super rude ones - I just block those and or the commenter. I have enough problems in my life, than to deal with jerks on my hobby channel. Thanks for being a part of this wonderful group of like minded rc addicts ;)
nice little plane there but hey brian will you do a video on the FMS dragonfly RTF on HH
If they send one, I'll review it, but they don't have it on my docket.
@@BrianPhillipsRC ok thanks for letting me know i was looking and the price is not to bad for RTF but i think ill get me a Volantex t-28 (RTF) instead
Hi I have an hobby zone aeroscout currently and I was wondering if I should get a valiant for my next plane and I was wondering if I can bind the ready to fly remote from my aero scout to the valiant thanks in advance love your vid‘s
You CAN, but I wouldn't recommend it. You will have very limited control over where and how the flaps deploy.
If you think you're going to be in the hobby for a while, you may want to "bite the bullet" and get an NX8 ;)
NX bit.ly/3mbVuNB
Valiant bit.ly/3rUTtsn
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hey thanks for responding much appreciated I think I’m just going to bind it to my regular Remote right now and then down the road upgrade to an NX8
Looks great, please review the skynetic bison . That 1750 plane looks awesome 👍
It does look pretty cool!
In your opinion, which plane handles wind better, the Arrows Pioneer or the Eachine Warbirds?
Pioneer by 1 mile ;)
Brian. I think I saw in one of your videos, that you were wearing thin gloves while flying in cold weather. If I'm correct, where did you get them, and how well did they work in keeping your fingers warm. Also were you still able to feel your control knobs. Let me know please. THANKS
You are correct. They're Nitrile gloves, and they work well...not as warm a proper cold weather gloves, but they help a LOT and I keep dexterity.
Nitrile Venom Rubber Work Gloves amzn.to/3G63AAY
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thanks brother.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hey Brian. I am 5' 10" average hand size. Would you suggest the large or the medium size. I don't want to have them too big with sloppy finger tips, but I want them to fit snug so I can feel my control knobs. Compare my hands to yours. What size do you recommend. Love your videos and the information I get from them. Peace.
We have a 6oz weight limit in our indoor flying space. You said it's under 250 g. The specs on the website don't show the flying weight. Is it in the manual? Thanks.
112 g with battery. (3.95 oz)
@@BrianPhillipsRC Know your in the middle of Iowa, but if you would ever want to join us for one of our Sunday morning indoor flies, let me know. We fly in the field house at Sun Prairie High School near Madison, WI. Probably too far of a drive, but just thought I would put it out there. We fly from 8:30 -11:30 a.m. The only thing I can guarantee is it won't be cold or windy! LOL This month we fly on the 5th and 19th.
Another great review thanks. Just bought one from your link for my neighbor 🤙 If I’m seeing it right it seems like it would be more resilient than the foam on the Sport Cub S2 (more like the foam on the Eachine)? Also, do you know if it will bind with a DXS?
It's definitely more resilient than the Sport Cub S2!
This plane is not DSMX, so I now that you can't bind it to your DXS.
I bought this recently as a first plane and accidentally messed with the trim does anyone know how to reset it or put it back at 0
How do you compare the pioneer 620mm to the umx turbo timber very close in size an price 🤔?
Pioneer is a very good, but CLOSER to toy grade. The UMX Turbo timber is a more expensive choice with LED's and FLAPS...two features that I generally demand on a STOL plane, BUT this Pioneer is more resilient to damage do the foam choice. It's light, but still strong, and it had plenty of power! As for RTF vs BNF - I prefer BNF only because we have the gear to make this plane fly right now...but if I were a newer RC pilot, this would be a large cost issue to overcome. RTF means I can get it as a gift for someone that has nothing (well, 4 AA's)...so you have to weigh this into your decision.
@@BrianPhillipsRC thank you so much for the detailed response. I appreciate all you do for the hobby.
My Pioneer arrived yesterday. Unfortunately with the standard time change, it's dark by the time I get home from work, so I'll have to wait until this weekend to fly it. A couple of "duh!" questions if I may:
1 - Am I correct in interpreting that the SAFE stabilization feature is engaged when the switch is flipped to the rear as you're looking at the face of the transmitter? I don't see a reference to it or markings on the radio. I see you marked it with a black marker, so I can't see it on this tiny screen.
2- You mention two bind buttons, but I don't see you use them. It appears to bind by just turning on the transmitter then plugging in the battery. If so, then what are the buttons for?
Thanks
1) There are TWO bind buttons on the transmitter - why??? I can't figure out - LOL
2) Daylight savings time is so dumb...I want them to make the daylight savings adjustment the OTHER WAY!!!
3) Stability mode (like SAFE) is back. This will auto level the plane. If in DOUBT please take the plane, get it powered up as usual, then throttle at 0%, and be careful...then flip the plane over in Stability mode (like SAFE) and see if the ailerons are trying to flip the plane back to level ;) This is a test you need to get used to doing every time you're in quesiton. You will need to do this when you advance to more sophisticated planes too, so start learning how to do it now, while it's easy ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC The funny thing is, I wish we'd stay on daylight savings time. On standard time, the rising sun is in my eyes driving to work in the morning and the setting sun is in my eyes when I'm driving home. Plus, it's dark by the time I get home so that nixes flying on weekdays until the time changes back to DST. Ugh.
In your opinion, which plane flies better in wind, the Arrows Pioneer or the Eachine Warbirds?
Pioneer by a mile ;)
Thank you for your response.
Hey Brian.
Can you do your rc plane collection video?
we will at some point ;)
Hi Brian and the beautiful Megan
How would you rate the arrows Vector against the Spektrum Safe which do think is the best OR are they both as good as one another ?.
You could always glue a small cover on the landing gear anyway.
Thumbs up anyway.
Steve
Thanks Steve
Arrows Vector is one of the best alternatives to SAFE that we've used. We have used a LOT, btw....but they usually do TOO much or NOT enough. Vector seems to be a great balance of angle demand (auto-leveling) and limited bank and pitch angles...which makes the plane STILL FLYABLE.
Is it BETTER than AS3X/SAFE - no.
Is it worse than AS3X/SAFE - also, no.
Is there any issues you had with it?
First to comment! Wow. Great video as always. Looks like a great little model to keep in the car when you need a quick flying fix. Seems like a more solid Timber UMX.
I think it's different animal form the Timber, but if you have a timber, and a DSMX Tx, this plane might be a bit "off the mark" in my opinion.
This would still be a super fun gift idea!!!!
Awesome vid as alway @BrianPhilipsRC ! I'm debating between buying this one or the Hobbyzone Sport Cub 2. I'm a beginner but I feel like the Pioneer could provide more fun in a long term aspect. What do you guys think ?
Pioneer has brushless, so it's almost a no-brainer with that detail, BUT the Sport Cub S2 UMX flies really good if the wind is VERY low...like 1-2mph or less
@@BrianPhillipsRC Hey buddy ! Thank you very much for the help. Gonna order the Arrows.... :) Cant wait to receive it ! Cheers
It's ok I guess but just be careful of the servo horns they are very brittle and thin I could say mine is down cause it's rudder horn broke on a minor crash landing! Minor... And I'm looking for replacements but I don't see any. But the cub s they compared to it has all the horns and parts you need so ??? Think about it. I really believe in Brian and his wife tells us the truth and will still go by his review of any planes . I think he just missed this one. He tried to crash it and had a hard time doing it lol but might have been nice to see the horns are very thin and brittle.
@@josephdale5400 what do you mean by horns? Is the metal thing that allows the elevator and rudder to move? And how did your control horn break?
@@hadyalbagu8615 yes the price that the servo wire hooks up to for the rudder all others fine but easy fix and no problems since. Minor sideways landing due to gust of wind hit sideways and tweeked wheel and broke the horn . I have over 100 flights on this plane now and it's very forgiving.
Hi, would anyone know what protocol this little bird operates on? I'd love to fly mine with my Boxer 4 in 1.
Cheers. 👍
I'm not 100% sure, but know it's not DSMX or DSM2 or DSM. It might be SLT2...but I can't say for certain.
Awesome Video! Arrows Pioneer or Umx Turbo timber? Which one is better?
I was thinking the same thing, but I guess it really depends because this model is a ready to fly that comes with a battery, charger and transmitter, while the UMX Turbo Timber does not but it has flaps. Personally I'd buy the Turbo Timber if you're already in the hobby and have a transmitter, batteries and charger, otherwise buy this model as it comes with everything needed to get started.
Turbo Timber is BETTER, but it's a BNF (bind and fly) meaning, if you don't have the Spektrum (or at least DSMX Transmitter) then you'll be into this UMX for probably 2-3 times what you're into the Pioneer.
THAT BEING SAID - if you have the Transmitter, you might actually prefer the Timber UMX.
I only say this because I wouldn't by a RTF for myself...BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND IT TO A NEWB - they won't have all that other stuff, so it quickly turns into a frustrating and expensive exercise in futility.
Horizon NEEEEEEEEDS to make a RTF for the Timber, or they'll keep getting crushed by these RTF offerings, even if they are inferior in some ways.
Hi, As always great videos. Kind of out of context but do you have a reference (web etc) that explains the terminology for rc batteries and chargers: LiPo, 4s, mAhr, capacity etc. All this stuff is a bit confusing to a newbie! LOL
I have some videos that will help you out...
Playlist
Smart Batteries... ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc7fO2Vc4A4frWRhCmZo2qxG.html
Non-Plane Videos (you'll have to scroll through and pick the ones that wet your whistle)... ua-cam.com/play/PLXTH0DstRDc5m50UjuP_p5qM-_JGifFp_.html
When you get confused, just comment on the videos you watch with a time stamp, and I'll try to help you out.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Thank you so much!
What adding postits on the trailing edge of the wing bent downward
GREAT IDEA ;)
What is the best rc plane for you which one you like the most you don't like fuel rc plane s
I have too many favorites to list.
I don't fly gas planes yet, but I do have two of them. These planes were inherited from my Grandpa.
You know the radio protocolo of the Arros Pioneer?... Thanks.
They're SLT, I think...but not 100% sure. They don't really talk about it that I know of. It may have been DSMX, but I HIGHLY doubt it, since it's more expensive.
Thankyou very much for your response.@@BrianPhillipsRC
SLT It no Is the radio protocolo!...
Anyone one of those crashed would break my umx sport cub s.
A. "Not a crash 9:22" on concrete. Sport cub s - Broken wing.
B. Straight down Into the grass- sport cub s - The motor would dislodge, bent shaft, broken front, and or broken prop.
So far this plane looks robost. How does it fly in a non stable mode, is squirly? Are parts in case you do damage it?
I agree with your assessments, and it's got the brushless motor ;)
As for all the modes, I think it flies similar to AS3X or SAFE...but all planes in SAFE fly, to a certain extent, wonky...when you're a new pilot, most don't care or notice - you just notice a non-crashed plane coming home when you're done flying - LOL ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC thanks, i was wondering how it flew in a "safe" off..
As far as I can see the transmitter beeps every minute. Do you know how I can turn this off?
It does, and it's SUPER annoying after a few minutes. IF you want it off, you could CUT it off - Man, that sounds terrible - LOL ;)
How would you compare this to the apprentice stol?
Great commentary. Man I can't wait to see an inside air hogs dog fight.
LOL
Im not realy Sure witch one to buy. The Sport Cub S2 or this one . Its so hard hahaha
This one is a better overall value, but the Sport Cub S2 is a better flying plane, if it's dead calm. Both are very good!
@@BrianPhillipsRC i realy like the big weels on this on. I belive its better for graslanding.
is it possible to bind to a NX-8?
If you wanted too, you'd have to replace the Electronics inside the plane...so not really, stock
This one isn't DSMX/DSM2
The pioneer Appears to have a wider landing gear stance than the Timber.
The Timber is allowed to splay out though, so that might be a factor. I want these SQUISHY tires on the Timber ;)
Seems a bit sportier than the sport cub.
I was thinking the same thing. If you breathe on the Sports Cub wrong it will break. Anything but light winds and its grounded.
I think so too, since it has BRUSHLESS motor too ;) Horizon, are you listening??? :)
Does anybody know how long the battery has to charge? Cause i cant figure it out.
Depends on how long you flew it, and what it was drawn down too.
Bonjour qu’elle est le protocole radio de cette avion ? Afin de faire un bind avec une autre radio . Merci
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Blue?
@@BrianPhillipsRC College football lau language
I have watched this video about 7 times and don't see how in the world you are rolling this plane. I bought one and it is just not as agile as the one you are flying in this video. Any tips?
Gotta use Rudder and Ailerons. Also, it was pretty windy in this flight, if I recall...that does make it a bit more agile appearing, at times, and also less controllable at other times ;)
I just did my first flight today with this plane. Went into a tree and killed the throttle and it fell maybe 10 foot on the prop and I had to push down on the prop and it snapped back and is working properly again. I am just so new to this hobby I was wondering if anyone knew if this was a safety feature? The crashes here are so so much worse. Any help would be much appreciated!
Ok guys I just ordered it and wanted to know how you All feel about this plane. Am I going to fail? I know it's only 159 dollars but I'm wanting a HSD CESSNA 2000mm they all say bigger is easier to fly ? Idk Guys give me some input thanks
You can do it. Don't give up. It takes time, and you will make a LOT of mistakes, but stick with it. A few planes down your timeline of pilotry and you'll be all over the HSD Cessna!
Remember, my first plane was a 10g Flyzone Inum (and the Sport Cub S UMX - almost the same time) - both were crashed so many times, I can't count. Stick with it!
Does anybody know the range on this plane?
It's longer than you can see, in my experience.
@@BrianPhillipsRC I found one source saying greater than 300 meters which is quite a lot so do you think that’s correct?
wow The wind was blowing the plane everywhere !!! Maybe shouldn't fly a small plane like this one in a Windy day like that!!! :-)
If it CAN, then imagine how well it will do in CALM ;)
I'm #2 Again... 🤣
Crappy ;) LOL
Happy Thanksgiving John!
I love uuu
thanks!
But you can make a brick fly good lol
LOL - This plane is WAY better than I expected!!!
如果中古的賣1000
我就買
Sooo, second hand for 1000 WHAT? Dollars - SOLD! ;)
Alsoy plane came with a bent up prop. Andy landing gear didn't even want to stay in so did the tape trick from Brian and it's a little better I guess. I'm really disappointed in the quality of the plane as far as the horns they are so thin I can't believe they didn't break just using the rutter and the other phorns let alone a minor crash Guys.im really just mad I didn't buy a bigger stronger plane . I just can't believe how thin the horns are I know it's just foam but still too weak for the foam is all I can say. Bigger problem is looking for parts I can find the rear wheel but don't come with the horn that you need to remove to replace the wheel????? Wtf do I do .I'm on a budget and I did very well on the flights so ????? I want to learn on a rudder system to really get the most of flying I could I guess tape the rudder and not use it but what is the point guys . I'm waiting on a response from you and to let me know what you think. Should I have bought the cub s?? Thanks for your time people I know it's a long message . sorry 😔
Your comment went to "Held for Review" due to this... " Guys.im " ....google thinks it's a link.
Okay, I understand you're on a budget, and I don't want you to get discouraged...this is not uncommon to be frustrated after having a crash or issue that takes you out of the sky when you're all excited to fly. The plane you got is GOOD, but it's still SMALL...and you have to be super careful with them, even if they're better for strength than say, the Sport Cub S2 UMX (a great flying plane, but far less capable than you're, and way slower).
I don't think you "should have bought the Carbon Cub SS 1.3m" - this would have been a lot more money.
Based on your issues, you just need to get this plane flying. Thin control horns are always going to be an issue on SMALL planes, so I don't want you to go into this with unreasonable expectations. Planes are delicate...all of them, but you're still learning a lot and new, and this will be hard to hear, but you need to be SUPER careful with them. You're going to crash, and possibly break them (EASY) but this is one of the hard realities you'll face as you progress into the hobby. The feelings you're having are not out of ordinary, but you will have to start figuring out what you need to do to these "stock" planes to make then live a bit longer, if you have certain bad habits.
Not sure if you got my reply the other day, but if you take a plastic bottle, you can really easily make a better, more strong control horn. It's not hard, but where you feel there's a weakness, you can improve upon these weaknesses with mods. I did TONS of this when I was new to the hobby.
Anyway, I'm going to reply with my standard "Beginner planes" again, since there's links to the videos too, and maybe you just need a BIGGER plane that's going to give you a bit better chance at success, but don't be too hard on yourself...flying is HARD...it takes a lot of work and persistence to get where you want to be. Don't give up. Don't let your frustration cause you to quit. Focus your frustration into resolve and make use of it. You'll get there. Keep at it.
Beginner planes...
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Hey Brian I'm so impressed with your advice and encouragement I really do believe you actually care about others that are interested in learning how to fly and it's not just income to you. I just got done leaving a reply on how me and my grandson fixed our pioneer servo horn with your advice and encouragement of course anyway I've seen another reply or question from someone one of your viewers saying to glue in the landing gear on the pioneer. I was wondering are they made this way to take away some damage from the rest of the plane when they come out? You know like NASCAR are designed to come apart and take up energy to save the driver anyway what I'm saying is he said to glue a piece of foam and to hold the landing gear in you said put a piece of tape on it to hold it in a little tighter you think if they wanted it to be permanent they would have made it permanent do they make it to where it came out for a reason like NASCAR does she take up some energy instead of trashing something else on the plane thank you looking forward to your input and answer my grandson Jackson says what's up LOL
Hey Brian.
Can you do your rc plane collection video?
Possibly. We try not to do this too often, but it's been a long time