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In Defense of Aegon II Targaryen | House of the Dragon Season 1
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- Опубліковано 8 лис 2022
- I know, Aegon isn't really a good guy - but I think we should talk about WHY he became the man he is & if that's relatable in any way to some viewers at home while watching House of the Dragon.
Game of Thrones has done a great job with bad guys you can sympathize with and I think Aegon is on the way to being another one - one of King Viserys' worst traits was neglecting Aegon II & I hope people give him a chance in the future despite being trash now.
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What's interesting to me is that many people would assume Aegon II likes the power that comes with being King but what he's actually enjoying at the coronation isn't the power but the fact he feels noticed. People are actually giving him positive attention compared to Viserys really not giving him any attention at all and when Alicent isn't slapping him she's drilling into his head that his life is always at risk if he doesn't take the Crown, something he's never wanted to do
I blame Viserys and Alicent, whenever he wasn’t neglected by both of them he was either slapped or shouted at. Can’t wait for his character arc in season 2, I hope they do him justice and stop forcing this Rhaenyra Mary Sue thing upon us
Im really hoping her season 3 plotline wont be framed as tragic or that the smallfolk will be treated like villains, if they do that then the show will go from being brilliant to awful.
Making him a r*pist was too much. I think the point and tragedy of his character would have gotten across the same, and he would be a very compelling character.
Read the books he was worse
@@arturozavalajr4315 Was about to comment the same thing
Instead of hiding from being crowned king, he was found with a little girl sucking him off
@@arturozavalajr4315 Was he though? I mean definitely that there is the far darker idea of him being a pedophile as well but I feel in general they went with one of the darkest interpretations of his character. He's a rapist who watches feral child fights that involve his own bastard children for his amusement. In the show while in the book there is also the more conservative reading that he was a man who didn't like responsibility, was found in a brothel, rejected the crown until he was warned that his children would be in danger if he didn't take the throne and then did to protect the people he cared about. Now this version would swing heavily in favor of the greens almost laughably so but the thing is it's a fake history with contradictory accounts you can make what you want of it but the interpretation the show goes with really makes it hard to see Aegon as anything other than an animal that needs to be put down. But hey I am apparently in the minority that didn't like the show and will not be watching season 2.
The dumb part about that scene was how they emphasized the rape when in fact most nobles slept with their serving women and im sure most were unwilling to do so. But they didn't really have a choice.
If the original show portrayed the abuse of serving women the same way, then Robert Baratheon would be the most notorious rapist there ever was with Tyrion 2nd place.
Aegon 2 was my favorite Targaryen after reading Fire & Blood, not because I liked him as a character but because of how tragic his life is. I'm not gonna spoil anything but people who know, know. I hope they do him justice in future seasons.
It's really true. You're right. He's a character that I think really is just needed in a long string of Kings to make the house interesting.
@@TheBattProductions u think they will do him right in the next season
@@donvalladares6930 I do - I think he'll be significantly cooler next season. I also think he'll be a villain, but that's expected IMO.
@@TheBattProductions I'm ok with him being a villain but if they didn't make him a rapist they could have made his turn to villain amazing
@@donvalladares6930 I think that's probably true.
i think viserys is a bad father and also a bad king he knows that his grandsons are bastards and he himself has 3 true born sons he could easily change the heir but he didn't
His daughter is true born
@@sha-danewent394 yes but his grandsons are bastards and rhanyra named those bastards her heir
@@debamlyabanerjee4067all hail his grace , Jace of House Strong , the first of his name , King of the Andals and the Rhoynar and the First Men , Lord of the Seven Kingdoms and Protector of the Realm 😂😂 Rhaenyra really expected this to happen 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And clearly struggles with the English language badly. He tells Rhaenyra she is the PRINCE that was promised to unite the realm. She's not even a Prince, shes a Princess...that he wants to be queen. The 1st queen. I think Aegon the Conqueror would've definitely NOT left that part out if their savior was a Queen. He wouldn't have called a queen a prince. Just stupid!!!
Aegon's main problem was Mommy issues. Alicent didn't help with the way she raised him, he originally Didn't want the throne, he even said in the book "what kind of brother steals his sister's throne?" Then Alicent jumped in and made him do what she wanted. I think what happens to Alicent after the war is even funny in a way. How she wasn't allowed to see her granddaughter because she scared her by telling her to "cut her husband's throat!"
Viserys as well not Alicent only Viserys had 5 children but loved only one even Aegon in ep9 said Viserys didn't love him and Alicent protected Aegon during Meleys and Rhaenys scene
I think his mommy issues added to it for sure, but lack of father seemed to not help a ton eh.
Good analysis, Lilith.
The show even made Aemond more likable than Aegon
Ikr . That was crazy to me . But I think things will change in S2 once the war starts as S1 ended with Aemonds first crime so comparisons between the two brothers will start soon
Totally agree. Despite how much I like Viserys as a well written character, he was never exactly father of the year..
Exactly. I hate it because I love Viserys and want him to have 0 shortcomings, but he was a bad dad to anyone but Rhaenyra.
He's a horrific father.
I don't think Aegon is a usurper. The reason being is Westeros already made it clear that they want a king over a queen. Even though Viserys named his daughter his heir, one could argue that he broke the law. I personally think that even a king is not above the law (mostly) and still has to follow natural succession laws.
Are you saying Viserys broke the law, or Aegon broke the law?
I mean, the King is the law really when it comes down to it. Truthfully, Ned could've named Sansa the heir to Winterfell and it would've been acceptable if he said so. I doubt it'd ever stand over time and people would be pissed, but the family's monarch gets to make that call.
@@TheBattProductions I’m saying viserys broke the law and tradition. He always had a suitable male heir whether it was daemon or Aegon. Yes, a king can do as he likes, but look where that got the mad king, Joffrey and the many other kings who did as they liked. It’s better to follow the law and tradition to not piss off the people who follow you or else you’ll just create conflicts, civil wars, family feuds and essentially self destruct your house and it’s power. Viserys meant well, but actions only harmed his house and the realm by breaking tradition and law. If you don’t think it’s law for males to inherit over females, then take a look at how Viserys got the throne in the first place. That great council set the law right then and there, that males will always inherit over females.
@@Daemon3rdBlackfyre Viserys broke tradition, but not really law. Rhaenyra was his only heir at the time, so she was totally just as an heir. People just don't like female heirs very much. Weaker claims, normally.
@@TheBattProductions which is my point, naming a female heir when you have a suitable brother or son would immediately create a rift in the realm like we saw. Not saying Daemon would’ve been perfect, but if viserys wanted his daughter to be queen he could’ve married her to daemon and not of married the Hightower. Then there wouldn’t of been any challenges to his heir. If not he could’ve married her to Aegon, but choosing his day over his son created a rift over a choice that Westeros had already made clear they would not want. Is it fair? No, but it’s what Westeros wants.
@@Daemon3rdBlackfyre I think it'd cause a rift, but it isn't illegal. That's all.
I mean Rhaenyra did marry Daemon and there still was a challenge - so I dunno!
Viserys loved Ryaenyra the most because it’s his only child with Aemma, the wife he loved more than alicent. The same way Otto sees his wife in Alicent.
I think that's a good explanation, truthfully.
He reminds me of Egg’s brother Daeron. I actually felt so sorry for him when I saw his reaction to the applause, because it’s obvious that he hasn’t had a lot of positive reinforcement in his life. He’s not a second son, but he has had to live as one in a society that doesn’t value them. Not an excuse for rape, etc., but it’s hard to always be second best. Westeros is full of daddy issues. Thanks for the video, good luck on the move!
i think it's all rhanyras falt because she hateed aegon since he was born and aegon was getting his father's attention she got jaelus that's why viserys stopped playing attention to aegon and other kinds
I think it's a fair take, but that's the beauty of it all that you can really see lots of different ways!
There was a deleted scene where Rhaenyra took baby Aegon from Alicent, played with him and taught him how to say her name and how to say sister . But the show runners chose to cut that out .
I do think Rhae thought of him as a threat but I wouldn't say she hated him . The drift definitely grew with the years between the two factions
@@merykhan97 stop giving me fake news
@@merykhan97 it's fake rhanyra never threated him like that there is no deleted scene like that
Yea her nearly grown acting like the brat she is on his 2nd birthday celebration. She ran away with Crispin! On her little brother's birthday party! Who would do that?!She's always been a spoiled biatch! And unworthy of the power of a Queen if she couldn't be kind to her 2-year-old brother. Then she lets her illegitimate child cut her other brother's eye out with a knife after his plan to jump her brother failed OVER AN INSULT between kids! I hate Rhaenyra. I can't wait to see a dragon eat her SunFyre or not.
(I am also glad to see other people are listening to you read as they fall asleep, Not just me, I really think you sell yourself short, you are an excellent reader of these stories. Thanks again Kevin)
I am really glad other people are enjoying the reading...really warms my heart to hear that honestly. You're wonderful and I appreciate you, Farah!
Aegon ii truly cared about his son & had good intentions trying to rise him with the attention he never received as a child.
Absolutely. He only ever wanted to be a good papa even if he didn't totally understand how to do it.
He had good intentions on the throne as well when the "smallfolk" were asking favors of him. He was friendly with his nephews until Alicent told him that he could never joke about Aemond with them, and its he and Aemond against them and slaps him up for playing around. The Pink Dread didn't seem THAT cruel of a prank. It was not vicious bullying. It was funny...if Aemond wasn't so self serious and easily offended. Aemond is clearly Alicents favorite child; he's the only one she seems to have a real relationship with. She tried to kill Rhaenyra for that lost eye-which was 100% understandable imo. You cut my kids' eye out, over an insult that just so happens to also be the simple truth and I'm choosing violence. Had it been Aegon's eye she'd have smacked his other eye out. And stupid Rhaenyra, "exhausting wasn't it hiding beneath the cloak of your own righteousness!" Bitch what?! Your kid just tried to kill her kid! Are you even paying attention right now or did Daemon eff the last bit of sense you had out of you. Plus shes a 304 compared to Alicent, so she has no ground to stand on calling her unrighteous. After that scene where she wants Aemond "sharply questioned" aka tortured...because Aemond told the blatant truth even if it was not kind it is true and they did all come to jump him so it's understandable if he was not being super nice to them...I love this show. Lol
Good to see another vid from you Kevin!
I felt sorry for Aegon II to an extent. Mans just wanted to drink and have sex, not be king. He was still a pos for cheating on his sister-wife and assaulting a poor girl.
Can’t wait to see what they do in season 2 compared to the books.
I'm sorry for my delay - THANK YOU VERY MUCH for leaving such a nice comment. I really appreciate that, Lexi.
Exactly. Dude just wants to live a based hooligan life but is being thrust into a role he isn't fit for at the moment. He's a scumbag dude, but he's tragic in a way you know?
I appreciate you!
OH MY GOD are people expecting him to be sexually attracted to his own sister plus forced marriage
i have been listening to your audiobooks every night for the last week & it’s been the most relaxing thing i’ve needed to get myself to sleep. Love your videos!
I'm sorry for my delay - THANK YOU VERY MUCH for leaving such a nice comment I really appreciate that. Did you get to enjoy the audiobook in its entirety? Or did I bore you to sleep with my goofy voices? Heh.
@@TheBattProductions it’s all good! oh you’re so welcome! Definitely NOT a bore whatsoever!! I have a very hard time falling asleep, so sometimes I have to change it up with what I listen to (music, podcasts, etc) & I ended up stumbling upon your audio videos for the book & it’s been amazing to listen to at night, but I always pick back up from when I last listened to from the night before so I don’t miss anything. i haven’t finished it yet… I’ve gotten to the chapters where it starts to line up with the House of Dragons season & i absolutely LOVE listening to it. Your voice that you do for Daemon I literally picture Matt Smith. I appreciate the voices for the different characters because I suck at doing that. Can’t wait to finish the rest though!!
@@betweenthetidess I really love that I can help you sleep...I've definitely fallen victim to not being able to fall asleep easily, so the fact that I help someone else sleep is pretty cool actually.
I love that my voice for Matt Smith's Daemon is actually not incongruent...I wasn't sure how I'd mentally picture Daemon at first and once you go with a voice, you kind of have to stick with it for continuity. So that worked out well I think! (I would change the voices of other characters now that I've seen the show and am finished the book, probably).
I hope you enjoy the rest of the book and hopefully also enjoy when I start doing the other books...I think I'll be doing Dunk and Egg next, or a World of Ice and Fire. Not sure yet. HmmmmM.
I saw some similarities between GOT and HOTD characters:
Viserys I & Robert I: Kings whose death triggered the main conflicts.
Aegon II & Joffrey I: Young and inadequate kings; the antagonists.
Otto & Tywin: Ambitious hands of the king from influential noble houses.
Alicent & Cersei: Daughters of the hands of the king; wives of the kings.
Aegon III & Bran: Young and "broken" kings who had to rule over a broken realm after the end of a long and bloody conflict/civil war.
Good comparisons. I think to some degree they played on the foundations of what made GOT good (though there are some stark differences of course). But I can't argue with this base-information at all!
@@ryanwidjaja4252Bran The Broken 😂😂😂😂
I think the Visarys neglected his children with Alicent out of guilt for overlooking Rhayneria and pressuring Aemma to have more children which caused her death
While the rape thing is horrific by our standards, in this world that was the norm for a lord and his servants. He’s not as sadistic as say a Joffrey, and I also think when we see him in battle he will display some bravery. He’s not the same.
you wont really hate him if he wasn’t a rapist
Pretty much
I bet fans will respect and love Aegon II as a badass once the show progresses (though he is still evil for being a rapist and for ignoring child abuse). He had great character development in the Fire & Blood book (despite it being a historical account) and became more of a badass while Rhaenyra became more of a coward. I think the point is that Aegon II became a pragmatist like what Rhaenyra was in Season 1 while Rhaenyra became more of a coward like Aegon II was in Season 1. Unlike Rhaenyra, he actually fought in the war and earned his battle scars as a war veteran. He even single-handedly retook Dragonstone and convinced most of Rhaenyra's supporters there to join him.
You should do a revisit of some of your old “what if” series. And maybe update them now the shows over
I agree with you. Some of those are so old and I have different perspectives on them now, I think.
@@TheBattProductions had the same thoughts. Anyways great content, I love watching your videos.
@@Sirbossman Thank you brother! I appreciate that. Happy Thanksgiving.
@@TheBattProductions Thanks, I hope you had a great thanksgiving as well
@@Sirbossman Indeed it did! Hope it went as well as possible my dude!
Excellent analysis filled with nuance, as always 👏 😊
Sorry for my delay - Thank you Alyssa :-)
If Aegon lives in oldtown in his childhood his character may change. Otto and other hightowers make him a worthy candidate for the throne. Alicent was little care about Aegon. But the real culprit was Viserys. Rhaenarya don't want to marry at that time. If she had been matured and after 10 years a marriage with Aegon was a good one. She can easily rule with Aegon and make real targaryn children.
Agreed!
In the book , Viserys was against that idea and his argument was "he's of Alicents blood" . And it was Alicent who wanted the two to marry .
I think another idea is if Alicent had heeded Otto's warning. He told her to 'prepare Aegon to rule'. And she didn't and let him spiral into what he became. Only until the last minute did she try to convince guide him on that path. But it was supposed to be Criston who convinces him to take the crown to save him siblings and kids. I think that could have been an interesting scene if they had done that
If you notice, many of the problems Westeros goes through are the results of the people who couldn't lay off the booze
Hahah. It's pretty absurd how true that is, hoenstly.
I felt bad for the guy up until the r-word scene. The window thing was Odd yes, but everybody has their kinks I guess
I pretty much agree with you. He's a bad guy, but it's worth discussing why he became it. The R word stuff is indefensible.
Raenira sobretodo en los libros perdio el tiempo al no asercarse ni buscar una relacion con sus hermanos, en mi opinion eso abria echo que ella no sufirera una traicion asi como sentirse apollada por lo que quedaba de su familia y ademas ellos ubieran tenido un ejemplo materno que los alludara en su formacion y Aegon creo que si uviera tenido la oportunidad le abria entregado la corona a su hermana si le dejaran elejir pero no le dejaron elejir
Also another very important reason to dislike him, he has bastards that he leaves in a dirty fighting pit in flea bottom.
Two friends of mine plan on starting your Fire and Blood audiobook this week!🤟
Sorry for my delay Harles...that's amazing! I wonder how far they've gotten. HMM.
Aegon is a mess. His mother Alicent has no affection for him, filled him with fear and hate. It's like he's poisoned and never find a cure and he is incapable of doing a good thing.
Excellent character analysis sir Kevin,
thank you 🦉♥️
Alicent loves Aegon even at that scene with Meleys she protected him and she became a mother at a very young age so can't be a parent and you forget Viserys who loved Rhaenyra not his other children
Total mess.
Sorry for my late reply. I appreciate you and your comment!
He did not usurp the throne. Women cannot onherit the throne, so Viserys juste threw away Law for his spoiled harlott daughter
All Hail His Grace Aegon Targaryen, King of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the first men and lord of the Seven Kingdoms. Long Live the King 👑 😊
Thankfully he doesn’t live long and the little girls of the realm can sleep better knowing he’ll leave them alone
Fun fact, Rhaenyra dies first. Killed by Aegon and his dragon... 😂😂😂
@@1234billionspl3ndjdpotatoeshow did you read fire and blood but not understand any of his character arcs?? (Also Rhaenyra is an evil tyrant, hated by the smallfolk for her actions, lets not whitewash.)
Rhaenyra must wed Aegon. He had no interest in rule. So she can rule the kingdom. Aegon was very lusty. So there is no problem of heirs. Age difference was not a problem. Maekar married 25 year old ceryse hightower at the age of 12.
There never was a TV character called Joffrey Lannister.
The TV character should properly be called Joffrey Waters, or maybe Joffrey Hill, but insists on being called Joffrey Baratheon as admitting his bastardy would undermine his claim to the Iron Throne.
Joffrey Lannister is a historical character in Westeros from long before Aegon's Conquest. Born Joffrey Lydden, he was an Andal knight who married the only daughter of King Gerold III Lannister and took his wife's family name when he was allowed to inherit Casterly Rock and become the first King of the Rock who had Andal instead of purely First Men blood.
Meh he was Joffrey Lannister as far as I'm concerned. Once he became King, he wasn't keeping a bastard name anyway so might as well just say Baratheon or Lannister.
My favorite character from the Green faction is Helaena. According to the book, she seemed to be the most innocent member of the Green faction despite being the wife of King Aegon II, and she was also a dreamer with dragon dreams like her ancestor Daenys the Dreamer.
"Hand turns loom; spools of green, spools of black; dragons of flesh weaving dragons of thread."
"He'll have to close an eye." "Beware the beast beneath the boards."
I'd definitely say she is the most innocent among the Greens for sure. I loved that she was/is a dreamer and it adds a different dynamic to the character group.
Very cool, Ryan!
Yes,,it comes down to superb characters in stellar writing…..i agree Kevin
Absolutely....stellar writing!
Yes He Is!
Yes he is what?
Joffrey *Baratheon* !!
I'd say rightful is debatable in the terms of the law of the land then which is kind of the point.
In some ways he wasn’t the firstborn son as the son that was born and died at a few hours from aemma. It makes more sense to see him as a second born son
I suppose that's one way to interpret it, sure. I can kind of see both sides of it being an explanation for why he treats Aegon this way. Good though, Izzy :-)
He was born without any living brothers. For all intents and purposes he's the first born son, born first in line to the throne. Aemma's son can't be before him if he's dead. I'd say he was the second son in a sense that Viserys treated Rhaenyra like she was, "The first son."
@@user-ti5cw1ug6l That's probably how I would best say I interpret the first/second son issue. As Daemon said, Baelon was prince only for a day, so it's tough...depends if Viserys never truly got over Baelon's death in that regard. Not sure.
Aegon 💚
DUde I love Aegon as a character. Yeah he was a bit of a SAer, which shockingly was somewhat common in that universe for powerful boys, BUT looking past that glaring character flaw, he's such a great watch.
Are you sure you're not descended from Jason Lannister?
Actually now that you say it...I do kinda look like him. Woah.
@@TheBattProductions The moment i saw him, i remembered you
1:10 good one lol
Tee hee
When you doing what if walder Frey let rob stark go at the red weeding
Perhaps soonish!
Opinion: I almost feel pity for him because his reign was absolutely miserable. He was unconscious for a good half of it and then the other half he was in constant physical agony and lost all his family members. I almost feel sorry for him but I can’t help thinking he brought it on himself in a way. Surprisingly from reading the lore, he’s not the worst member of the Greens. His mother, Ser Criston Coke, Larys Strong we’re awful. He actually was going to do the right thing but was manipulated out of it. That is where my sympathy draws in because he didn’t want to do it from the beginning and was actually doing the right thing by obeying his fathers wishes unlike the rest of the Greens that betrayed Viserys as soon as he drew his last breathe. In that way I can say he was loyal to his father even though their relationship isn’t much specified in the books. He was probably thinking that in his last moments that if he had not taken the throne then his children wouldn’t be dead and he wouldn’t be a severely burned cripple. I bet most of the Greens in the end we’re experiencing high forms of regret. Especially since they didn’t even win in the end. The war was about which bloodline would come out on top and it was Rhaenyra’s. And to add insult to injury he was betrayed by his own men, not that I feel sorry for him on that, but that’s just pitiful to go through all that trouble to be sold out by your own men and knowing that as your dying your enemy wins because the matter of succession went through Rhaenyra’s children not his. Even though he’s a despicable character, his ending almost makes you feel sorry for him. ALMOST (for me)
I certainly feel pity for Aegon. I don't think he's the worst of the Greens at all. I mean yeah he's a bit snobbish and not the best guy, but that's more often than not the path for future Kings I suppose.
It's truly a very tragic setup and that's why it's so damn good. George RR really knows his stuff and continuing the story of the Targaryen family is one of the best decisions for us GOT/HOTD fans, for sure.
And the Iron Throne was NOT Rheanyra’s. That succession was clearly not set in stone. Even AEGON the conqueror was NOT THE FIRST BORN SON. Vicenya was the elder.
I mean it was Rhaenyra's though, right? Viserys made that super clear where everyone knew it despite lords not liking it.
@@TheBattProductions
Not the SAME VISERY'S who's the son of the SECOND BORN SON & who's claim was not as strong as Rheany's. LOL. Dude, you guys are full of it.
I mean, Viserys was voted in as King at the Great Council so I don't know what to tell ya bud! At least Rhaenys/Viserys had chances at it, whereas the Hightowers are sneak-thieves who just stole the Throne because they happened to be in the building before Rhaenyra even knew Viserys was dead.
Rhaenyra was the heir. Viserys proclaimed her as heir to all and reaffirmed it. Not much to talk about there sadly.
Watching episode 9 of HotD, it made me wonder what would have happened if Aegon was able to slip away from King's Landing all together and just disappear, ruining the green's plans for putting him on the throne?
It would've really messed things up. No one could've legitimately been put on the Throne and it make a ton of sense...at least not that the people would buy
Aegon is a HORRIBLE person but I do feel sorry for him. Rape is unforgivable, yes. But in all other respects Aegon is a victim. Viserys cares WAY more about Rhaenyra. To be fair to Viserys, he lost his beloved wife and suddenly had to remarry and had pressure to then have more kids he didn’t want when he already had Rhaenyra, that will fuck you up. But it doesn’t change that he was absent for Aegon in a way he wasn’t for Rhaenyra. Alicent had him as a young teenager and had no idea how to be a mother since she was still a child herself. Combine with that her blatantly treating him as a political object since he could walk and… yeah. That will mess you up. He had a terrible upbringing. He probably felt really neglected growing up, with a mum who couldn’t cope with being a mum and who drilled it into his head that when his father died his own sister would kill her, and a dad who wasn’t there for them at all. He didn’t want to be king even as a kid, but his destiny was chosen for him at earth when he full well knew he didn’t want it and his dad didn’t want it. A kid doesn’t develop a massive drinking problem and become a nymphomaniac out of nowhere. It’s not like Joffrey where Aegon was born a monster, he was made that way.
He knows he’s unfit to rule unlike every other unfit king, but his mum and grandfather still proceed to just force him into RULING A WHOLE COUNTRY for their own ambition. Otto just so he can have House Hightower in the royal fold, and Alicent for the same reason, except with the added factor of… let’s be honest, she’s jealous of Rhaenyra. Otto is a slimy piece of shit, but that’s what he’s always been. It’s Alicent who gets pissy at Rhaenyra for sleeping around despite the fact she could probably do so herself seeing as she’s one of the most powerful people in Westeros, and allies with someone as blatantly shady as Larys Strong to get someone she knows is a scheming PoS back as hand. He’d probably just be fine with Rhaenyra being Queen, it’s not like Rhaenyra would disinherit him. In the show and the books it’s pretty clear that she only really had bad feelings towards Aegon after Lucerys died, and his mum and grandad put him on the throne the moment her beloved dad died. Him and his siblings probably would have gotten good places in court. But no, his awful relatives just scheme right after his father died and knowingly start a massive civil war that he’s suddenly thrown right into the centre of. When you think about it it’s sad because at his coronation
And then when you consider this civil war ends in him losing all of his (legitimate) children, all of his siblings, covered in horrific burns, unable to walk, and ends with him being poisoned by his own advisors… yeah. Honestly his story is really sad.
It's incredibly sad. Like I said - obviously he sucks in one aspect for the assault, but otherwise he really does have a sad story when it comes to his dad and what's expected of him. No wonder he deals with it by using boos and women.
A person's behavior is affected by how he/she was raised by parents/guardians. Definitely it is Alicent's and Otto's fault why Aemond and Aegon became bad people. Otto's greed for power.
Absolutely. I mean there's probably a mix of things going on, but LARGELY it's due to Alicent/Otto/Viserys' treatment of him + his position in life. Just bad, bad news.
Otto wasn’t even around much during his childhood since he got fired by Rhaenyra, and for fucks sake every lord in Westeros is greedy especially Daemon and Corlys. I don’t get why you people always accuse only Otto with greed where there’s literally Daemon and Corlys.
Alicent was still a child herself when she gave birth it’s not surprising she didn’t know what to do with her kids. Viserys ignored and didn’t even cared about most of his kids, he only cared about Rhaenyra.
@@notyetawomen5257 Oh sorry. Don't be angry. I understand your point. I don't mean to argue. 😊👍
@@denfarc Oh 😦. I usually get these arguments about how blind I am and that the greens are just evil. Well this is a nice change, thank you for understanding and respecting my opinion.
Here's some ideas
What if Rhaenys was queen
What If Viserys married Daemon and Rhaneyra earlier
What If Viserys married Laena
What If Ned agreed to Renlys plan to overthrow the lannisters
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I think the four Green siblings are victims of their own parents especially Alicent.
"King Viserys' worst traits was neglecting Aegon II"... ummm, he was dying! lol!! Aegon is AWFUL (like most of the characters in this show) no need for a defense lol!
Hah. I mean he was dying, but hew as neglecting him for a long time!