Go to an RC hobby shop and get a small 2 or 4 stroke engine. They work off of glow plugs and a kind of diesel fuel because they are actually diesel engines. .80 cc I think. They have them shown in youtube. There isnt an engine that hasnt been available to the public. Even turbojet engines. (Your neighbors will love you for that). Just gotta know what you want and where to look.
i wanted a wilesco steam traktor starting when i was 8 years old. at age 50 at breakfast one saturday saw an ad in the news paper for a sale at a toy store. for some reason i don't recall, my wife and i got into a loud argument, i got in my old dodge, drove to the store and spent more than a half week of pay to buy that wonderful toy. 74 years old now and i still play with the tractor. it felt great to relieve that yearning. i've picked up 3 more since then. JUST GO GET ONE.
@ my friend every passing year I say this is my time, things crop up so the cash goes into something else. I keep looking as one day it will be my time to get one of my all time favourite things. Take care and I’m really happy you got your dream 👍👍👍👍
My grandfather had a big daddy version of this that ran on paraffin and had a ratchet handle to start it. His farm had no mains electric and water was drawn up by a wind pump (ATCO type). The engine was used to run the milking machine twice a day and sometimes a bale conveyor for hay and straw bale storage. He ran it and the water pump until he retired in 1960. Considering it was bought in about 1935 I think it payed for its self.
My dad was a Steam Engineer working setting up saw mills mining equipment! We restored a few steam powered tractor! We restored my steam powered truck and a steam powered boat! The steam whistle is the best! I go out as much as possible and people up & down the river and lake, tooting for me to use the steam whistle!
I may be wrong but it appears to be a four stroke engine and. It does oil the cylinder from the drip tube at the base of the cylinder but two stroke oil is still a good idea
It is 4 stroke. Speciality is the pressure controlled intake valve with no pushrod. Those hit-miss are more efficient than throttled engines at part load. There is no throttle to restrict airflow, they always run full compression.
@@pepethefrog7193 arent theyt taking on fuel and exhausting it unburned during the off strokes or is the intke valve spring loaded where it wont open and allow airfuel in?
@@eldoradoboy During off strokes the exaust valve stays open and the spring loaded intake does not open. No fuel wasted, Maybe the video creator can do a slo-mo of the valves during on and off?
@@eldoradoboy There should be some cooling effect when the piston goes up and down on the "miss" cycle as air is drawn into and leaves the cylinder via the exhaust valve which is being held "open" by the governor "catch"....
Take a strip of rubber from an inner tube and make a "ROPE" to pull start it. Flat strip of rubber wrapped around a flywheel given a yank and it's running.
My dadsfriend had old tractors with steel wheels and these engines on them i was always fascinated with them and got to drive it finnally when i got old enuff .RIP RUSS.
A nice engine but a couple of points, what you have there is a four stroke, two strokes don't have an inlet valve or an exhaust valve, You don't need to add two stroke as the oiler on the cylinder block is there to lubricate the pistons.
I remember my Great Grandfather had an Australian version hit & miss to pump water from the lower dam up to an old concrete tank that fed their house. We would heat it up in cold Walcha (town in NSW) snowy winters with a WW2 acetylene kit he had "tactically relocated" after the war. Could hear the damn thing 500m away- bang knuck knuck knuck
I have always wanted to build a triple expansion steam engine model, but I have to admit that hit and miss engine is pretty nice, a lot cheaper, and no machining required. I really wish there was some good steam engine model kits that were already fully machined. I just want to assemble, tune, and run it.
Fred you need now to buy a full scale hit and miss and have some real fun. I would like to have a Fairbanks Morse 4 cylinder 160 hp. They really rumble the ground.
@CB-RADIO-UK there are also small ones. Fairbanks Morse Z comes to mind. The smaller single digit horsepower rated ones are transported usually by a small cart. They're not miniscule but are definitely more manageable in cost and transport. Not easy but easier.
My toy is the Sichuan Sifa MB168F diesel engine on Amazon. The smallest one with the offset filler cap on the red diesel tank. It's not really a toy. Just well cared and the shaft adapted to 1 inch. I cranked in the restrictor bolt. I don't want it running anywhere near 3000 RPM. I stick to pump diesel and 15W40 oil. Watch the oil level and mount it on plate aluminum not steel.
Nice Video! I want a full size steam engine with about 2km of track around my property. I want to be the crazy guy on the hill that blokes secretly want to be mates with. I have a hit and miss engine 🤠
There is no cast iron in these. The flywheels come in two variations: One is solid cast steel flywheels, the other is cast aluminum centers with steel rims. There is no cast iron in these engines. The body is cast aluminum with a steel cylinder wall and one or two rubber o-ring piston rings (again, 2 piston designs). This is a delightful engine and one of the best looking Chinese made hit and miss engines that runs very well.
Apparently Google has been reading my mind and ratted me out. This is more compact than the stationary steam engines advertised constantly during my youth that I have never seen real life.
It literally has an oiler cup on the back of the cylinder and is in no way like a 2 stroke engine. Hence the valves, and the lack of crankcase pressure fed air fuel mix
I have the plans for a hit and miss engine that went around our model club in the late 80's.made from steel fabrications etc.......I often wondered if one could be run on a model diesel engine mix?......diesel fuel, ether and engine oil.
No Fred I dont want one! But I would be interested in a philly steak with cheese! Actually Im working on a 1 stroke design here. sigh. Aka a "never miss engine". I think that if you get your hands on one of these in a few years, you will be amazed that no one made a 1 stroke before this. But Im more into the machining and building then the ownership. Once its made and works well its on to the next or onto the shelf until its time comes. Best wishes friendly model makers! Maybe ill make a hit or miss now too, dang it>>> you didi it! Facepalm, I failed to resist and am now interested.
The piston should be lubricated from the main oiler on the rear top of the cylinder, you shouldn't need 2 stroke oil at all, the piston skirt should drag the oil forward and lube the cylinder wall and rings,
Yes i rem those engines. We used to call them " frog engines" for some reason. They run on diesel well. Deffo dont leave things too late. Cant take it with you.
Got one as a 12 year old then immediately was sent to boarding school. The two are not related 😂 I’d say do it even if you run it once then throw it away. Just be weary about buying more or spare parts it can get out of control ha ha
i have a full size version I've just restored, rosebery 2hp, the oiler at the rear of cylinder is all that is neede to lube the piston and cylnder no 2 stroke oil needed, why does the model version need it?
That was some wicked nasty lookin' tap water!!! 😂 where I'm from water is clear... you may want to get ahold of someone about that before you end up with superpowers from drinking yellow nuclear waste water... 🤔... or don't!
LOL you need to look at higher end steam engine models. Believe me this engine is quite cheap. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335481299589?chn=ps&_ul=GB&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=335481299589&targetid=2361039923645&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046034&poi=&campaignid=21697381820&mkgroupid=170109506289&rlsatarget=pla-2361039923645&abcId=10027101&merchantid=6995734&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwx4O4BhAnEiwA42SbVCdgNgoC2cibKJHP4ITI5BPh8wuOgM_ju-Uf3x4UmuTgIMKCXzFCARoCYCgQAvD_BwE
Brother, just because this is an ``engine`` doesn`t mean that it wants engine oil... Int. comb. engines use pressurized, filtered oil systems, the oil used in them is designed for that system... A little clonker like this has no filters, has no pressurized injection, it runs on gravity and viscous friction that cycles the oil with component revolutions or strokes... This would much prefer a hydraulic oil or any other wear-reduction oil that is wholly free of detergents of any sort... Wear red. additives are fine, but also need to be checked, as material compatibility is still imperative when oiling a running system... Lubricants are not universal nor should they ever be used as such... Tolerances and all system clearances are designed to revolve around and allow a specific oil to do the job of lubrication flawlessly or the thing just breaks apart, you can`t run any oil just because it appears to be of adequate viscosity... The two stroke oil is a perfect advice, hell, that shit is a good advice on modern car engines, both petrol and diesel as a fuel additive, especially the additive rich 2stroke oils that help clean the engine and the exhaust, as otherwise you risk dpf/cat/whatever other component potentially getting caked up with soot, which the cleaning oil actually helps remove, so it`s even better than just adding those ``injector cleaners`` or what not to the fuel, as those drop the lubricating properties of both diesel and petrol, which is not great for the cylinders, where the 2stroke oil is great for the whole system, as long as it is designed to help clean the engine and the related systems... (also does wonders for the fuel pump, again - both petrol and diesel) Best regards! Steuss
Why is it called engine diy ?... when you buy a complete running engine 😢... Buy a lathe and a milling machine and build your own hit 'n mis or steam engine 👍😀
I’ve always wanted one, I mean all my 54 years of adulthood I’ve wanted one. And I still do. It’s beautiful my friend
Thanks. These are great to play with.
Not only that, it doesn't weigh 750 lbs and use an awkward amount of floor space in a one car garage.
Go to an RC hobby shop and get a small 2 or 4 stroke engine. They work off of glow plugs and a kind of diesel fuel because they are actually diesel engines. .80 cc I think. They have them shown in youtube.
There isnt an engine that hasnt been available to the public. Even turbojet engines. (Your neighbors will love you for that). Just gotta know what you want and where to look.
i wanted a wilesco steam traktor starting when i was 8 years old. at age 50 at breakfast one saturday saw an ad in the news paper for a sale at a toy store. for some reason i don't recall, my wife and i got into a loud argument, i got in my old dodge, drove to the store and spent more than a half week of pay to buy that wonderful toy. 74 years old now and i still play with the tractor. it felt great to relieve that yearning. i've picked up 3 more since then. JUST GO GET ONE.
@ my friend every passing year I say this is my time, things crop up so the cash goes into something else. I keep looking as one day it will be my time to get one of my all time favourite things. Take care and I’m really happy you got your dream 👍👍👍👍
My grandfather had a big daddy version of this that ran on paraffin and had a ratchet handle to start it. His farm had no mains electric and water was drawn up by a wind pump (ATCO type). The engine was used to run the milking machine twice a day and sometimes a bale conveyor for hay and straw bale storage. He ran it and the water pump until he retired in 1960. Considering it was bought in about 1935 I think it payed for its self.
I like watching the big hit & Miss start from a tractor with a flat belt on the flywheel. The model looks fun !
My dad was a Steam Engineer working setting up saw mills mining equipment! We restored a few steam powered tractor! We restored my steam powered truck and a steam powered boat! The steam whistle is the best! I go out as much as possible and people up & down the river and lake, tooting for me to use the steam whistle!
I love the irregular sound of the hit and miss engine.
Pre-heat with a hair dryer, Works great for small nitro engines too.
My dad was always going upstairs for a hit and miss.
:-)
Lol.
I may be wrong but it appears to be a four stroke engine and. It does oil the cylinder from the drip tube at the base of the cylinder but two stroke oil is still a good idea
It is 4 stroke. Speciality is the pressure controlled intake valve with no pushrod.
Those hit-miss are more efficient than throttled engines at part load. There is no throttle to restrict airflow, they always run full compression.
@@pepethefrog7193 arent theyt taking on fuel and exhausting it unburned during the off strokes or is the intke valve spring loaded where it wont open and allow airfuel in?
@@eldoradoboy During off strokes the exaust valve stays open and the spring loaded intake does not open. No fuel wasted, Maybe the video creator can do a slo-mo of the valves during on and off?
@@eldoradoboy
There should be some cooling effect when the piston goes up and down on the "miss" cycle as air is drawn into and leaves the cylinder via the exhaust valve which is being held "open" by the governor "catch"....
The outlet is held open by the governor. So it doesn't suck the inlet open.@@eldoradoboy
Amazing such a simple engine can work so well
Very solid design and simple but they were quite inefficient back in the day and is why diesel took over.
Take a strip of rubber from an inner tube and make a "ROPE" to pull start it. Flat strip of rubber wrapped around a flywheel given a yank and it's running.
I have a very rare Mamod, a 1939 SC3 and still in fully working order and original box... lovely old piece :D
Those are so cool! I have had a few big ones, never one that small
Yes they are!
These were popular on farms and such because they are very fuel efficient. It only burns fuel under load when the engine slows down.
This would be the perfect thing to run a small watchmaker’s lathe, albeit with a larger fuel supply.
This one runs much faster if it could. Common conversion is to shorten or change the governor spring. Shortened Bic lighter spring works well.
My dadsfriend had old tractors with steel wheels and these engines on them i was always fascinated with them and got to drive it finnally when i got old enuff .RIP RUSS.
A nice engine but a couple of points, what you have there is a four stroke, two strokes don't have an inlet valve or an exhaust valve, You don't need to add two stroke as the oiler on the cylinder block is there to lubricate the pistons.
Hi Thanks for clearing that up.
I remember my Great Grandfather had an Australian version hit & miss to pump water from the lower dam up to an old concrete tank that fed their house.
We would heat it up in cold Walcha (town in NSW) snowy winters with a WW2 acetylene kit he had "tactically relocated" after the war.
Could hear the damn thing 500m away- bang knuck knuck knuck
Great history right there. Thanks for sharing.
"Tactically relocated" 😂😂
Great story, thanks for sharing!
I have always wanted to build a triple expansion steam engine model, but I have to admit that hit and miss engine is pretty nice, a lot cheaper, and no machining required. I really wish there was some good steam engine model kits that were already fully machined. I just want to assemble, tune, and run it.
Fred you need now to buy a full scale hit and miss and have some real fun. I would like to have a Fairbanks Morse 4 cylinder 160 hp.
They really rumble the ground.
My father in law had a stationary engine which he used to take to shows. Needed a trailer to tow it though.
I love the sound of that particular engine. I know exactly the one you're talking about. 😂
@CB-RADIO-UK there are also small ones. Fairbanks Morse Z comes to mind. The smaller single digit horsepower rated ones are transported usually by a small cart. They're not miniscule but are definitely more manageable in cost and transport. Not easy but easier.
We had a lister engine like that on the farm years ago 😁
Sweet. They are collectable now.
See the full-size versions of these at vintage shows. They get free entry, and this would be easier to transport😂
I'VE FOUND MY IDENTICAL HAND TWIN! -Joey
My toy is the Sichuan Sifa MB168F diesel engine on Amazon. The smallest one with the offset filler cap on the red diesel tank. It's not really a toy. Just well cared and the shaft adapted to 1 inch. I cranked in the restrictor bolt. I don't want it running anywhere near 3000 RPM. I stick to pump diesel and 15W40 oil. Watch the oil level and mount it on plate aluminum not steel.
You need a starter used for gas rec cars. Rubber wheel that you attach to a motor and bump the flywheel
Nice Video!
I want a full size steam engine with about 2km of track around my property.
I want to be the crazy guy on the hill that blokes secretly want to be mates with.
I have a hit and miss engine 🤠
There is no cast iron in these.
The flywheels come in two variations: One is solid cast steel flywheels, the other is cast aluminum centers with steel rims. There is no cast iron in these engines. The body is cast aluminum with a steel cylinder wall and one or two rubber o-ring piston rings (again, 2 piston designs).
This is a delightful engine and one of the best looking Chinese made hit and miss engines that runs very well.
Great video thank you
Apparently Google has been reading my mind and ratted me out. This is more compact than the stationary steam engines advertised constantly during my youth that I have never seen real life.
These little models do exist these days. Still expensive but not compared to a few years ago.
It literally has an oiler cup on the back of the cylinder and is in no way like a 2 stroke engine. Hence the valves, and the lack of crankcase pressure fed air fuel mix
My endlife crisis toy is a 650kg excavator.
my choice stays on a Komatsu D355A
Dashpots is a nice period style detail. Definitely run synthetic oil @ 10% whilst runnig petrol. 😊
Use a flat leather strap wrapped around a flywheel rim as a starter pull.
Looks like no counterbalancer on crankshaft!
Remove one spring off the governor or replace both springs with weaker ones and it will slow down and run and sound like a real hit n miss .
More of these videos! ❤
Use a higher refined oil for lubricant like sewing machine oil
I have the plans for a hit and miss engine that went around our model club in the late 80's.made from steel fabrications etc.......I often wondered if one could be run on a model diesel engine mix?......diesel fuel, ether and engine oil.
Time to add an alternator and generate a few volts
your so right. i want one for like 10 years😂
No Fred I dont want one! But I would be interested in a philly steak with cheese! Actually Im working on a 1 stroke design here. sigh. Aka a "never miss engine".
I think that if you get your hands on one of these in a few years, you will be amazed that no one made a 1 stroke before this.
But Im more into the machining and building then the ownership. Once its made and works well its on to the next or onto the shelf until its time comes. Best wishes friendly model makers!
Maybe ill make a hit or miss now too, dang it>>> you didi it! Facepalm, I failed to resist and am now interested.
But will it decode FT8? Have a little steam engine that equally fasinates :)
Nice, but I already have a lawn mower with a simple hard to start vibe to it.
Very cool!
The piston should be lubricated from the main oiler on the rear top of the cylinder, you shouldn't need 2 stroke oil at all, the piston skirt should drag the oil forward and lube the cylinder wall and rings,
Thanks
It helps.
Very cool
I want one and I want it now
Nice video Frid...sorry Fred. Thought it was a mamod when I first saw it in my feed.😂
You could make that wooden base yourself pretty easily
Have it run a dyno and use it to charge a phone
I always wanted a glowplug airplane engine.
I should get one before I die, right?
Yes i rem those engines. We used to call them " frog engines" for some reason. They run on diesel well. Deffo dont leave things too late. Cant take it with you.
Got one as a 12 year old then immediately was sent to boarding school. The two are not related 😂 I’d say do it even if you run it once then throw it away. Just be weary about buying more or spare parts it can get out of control ha ha
I had one fastened to a wood post when I was a kid. Loved running it - would really have loved to have been able to afford a plane…
Shouldn't the hopper be filled with water?
Yes it should
Mammod went out business August this year
Yes i know. Gutted. I think it was due to the fuel tablets being banned.
@@CB-RADIO-UK I did know about the fuel tablets, after all these years.
@@CB-RADIO-UK Even after 40 years I can still smell those fuel tablets. Can't imagine it did me much good. I didn't know they were banned.
@@andrewfishpool89those hexamin blocks stain everything
@@andrewfishpool89the general role is if People enjoy something it must be banned.
Frid in the shed I learn lot from you about bying cb radios and power supplys and antenna for cb radios my friend
A true midlife crisis is wanting a 1000cc sports bike and a Thai bride😂😂😂😂
Frid in the shed your UA-cam videos are awesome my friend
“…spit-n-hiss engine….”
They make that kind of noise…
Is it any good on cw bands
i have a full size version I've just restored, rosebery 2hp, the oiler at the rear of cylinder is all that is neede to lube the piston and cylnder no 2 stroke oil needed, why does the model version need it?
Thats a good point. I see what you mean.
Nice piece of engineering there Fred ....try with a bit of nitrus oxide 🤣
lol, it needs a blower kit too! vroooooom!
Where can you get lead fuel?
Garage ?
You generally can’t, and you shouldn’t. If you really must, 100LL Avgas has a small amount of lead in it.
Small airports often sell it because most of the small propeller planes run on leaded fuel.
It's not a fully working Two Stroke Engine, it's four stroke.
It is actually a 4 stroke engine.
Thanks
I bought a new motorcycle instead
Has anyone fixed the regulator to hold stable revs? And what fuel works best?
The rpm "hunting" is not a fault. The regulator is working as designed.
Sheel rip your head off 😂😂
Yes Ive been there 😂😂
NO, I haven’t ever wanted one!
However you were interested to watch the video and leave 3 comments.
what is this used for?
fun
Its quite powerful so could be used as a model to drive other equipment.
That was some wicked nasty lookin' tap water!!! 😂 where I'm from water is clear... you may want to get ahold of someone about that before you end up with superpowers from drinking yellow nuclear waste water... 🤔... or don't!
Frid in the shed 73s to you and your wife my friend 😅😅😅😅
Thanks Grid
i could chug along all day. MINT".
Ventura? Jesse Ventura?
I assume there is a spark plug ....
Yes seen testing in this video. ua-cam.com/video/cnVlcO4VPUM/v-deo.html
Frid in the shed your model egine is awesome my friend 😅😅😅😅
This is why I Will never be a radio ham ffs
HOW MUCH!!!!! 😢😢
LOL you need to look at higher end steam engine models. Believe me this engine is quite cheap. www.ebay.co.uk/itm/335481299589?chn=ps&_ul=GB&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&mkscid=101&itemid=335481299589&targetid=2361039923645&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9046034&poi=&campaignid=21697381820&mkgroupid=170109506289&rlsatarget=pla-2361039923645&abcId=10027101&merchantid=6995734&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwx4O4BhAnEiwA42SbVCdgNgoC2cibKJHP4ITI5BPh8wuOgM_ju-Uf3x4UmuTgIMKCXzFCARoCYCgQAvD_BwE
I want the bigger thing 😂. Im a anti social creature fred. I drive a DIESEL 😂 oppps sorry greta
Yeh. I drove a diesel for 15 years to the ULEZ killed it .
@@CB-RADIO-UK dewalt, milwaukee, bosch, fein.... all got a proper answer to ULEZ 😂❤
You have leaded petrol!? I see some countries haven't totally lost the plot.
No bud we have been lead free for years.
Brother, just because this is an ``engine`` doesn`t mean that it wants engine oil... Int. comb. engines use pressurized, filtered oil systems, the oil used in them is designed for that system... A little clonker like this has no filters, has no pressurized injection, it runs on gravity and viscous friction that cycles the oil with component revolutions or strokes... This would much prefer a hydraulic oil or any other wear-reduction oil that is wholly free of detergents of any sort... Wear red. additives are fine, but also need to be checked, as material compatibility is still imperative when oiling a running system... Lubricants are not universal nor should they ever be used as such... Tolerances and all system clearances are designed to revolve around and allow a specific oil to do the job of lubrication flawlessly or the thing just breaks apart, you can`t run any oil just because it appears to be of adequate viscosity...
The two stroke oil is a perfect advice, hell, that shit is a good advice on modern car engines, both petrol and diesel as a fuel additive, especially the additive rich 2stroke oils that help clean the engine and the exhaust, as otherwise you risk dpf/cat/whatever other component potentially getting caked up with soot, which the cleaning oil actually helps remove, so it`s even better than just adding those ``injector cleaners`` or what not to the fuel, as those drop the lubricating properties of both diesel and petrol, which is not great for the cylinders, where the 2stroke oil is great for the whole system, as long as it is designed to help clean the engine and the related systems... (also does wonders for the fuel pump, again - both petrol and diesel)
Best regards!
Steuss
Hi. Thanks for extra info. Yes males perfect sense.
$530 no wonder you only see these in sponsored videos
In the world of quality model engines its very cheap. Go look on ebay.
It cost more than 3x brand new 1000watt generators. Price is a massive FU scam. 😂
Yeah but its a model not a generator.
The reason it's a mid-life crisis toy is because we couldn't afford to buy or build one sooner.
No thanks, I'll wait until China makes one for half the price.
These are China made.
@@CB-RADIO-UK OMG 😂
Why is it called engine diy ?... when you buy a complete running engine 😢...
Buy a lathe and a milling machine and build your own hit 'n mis or steam engine 👍😀
Hi. Its just the trading name of the company that sell them. Ta.
U lie.
I realized you a lied.
Which part ?
Midlife crisis toy....
Wow. 😶