Mel is on fire this episode, see what happens when she is given time to talk and not ridiculed after? It's nice they treat her like this now, may it not change
@@DA-pm9onthose who don't have a plug in Mexico? Those who wanna KNOW exactly what they're ingesting by it's proper name without 1 crazy chemical involved that shouldn't be in it?
My thing is if you’ve been “in that situation” so many times, why did you consistently put yourself in the situation that leads to the other situation?…especially if the situation is expected? Nobody forced her into being a video vixen.
I agree with Mel. Flip comes from a generation that didn’t view those behaviors as predatory. And his loud defense is truly telling that he would be the type to see a female being raped and step out the room instead of stopping the homie.
@@marcmarell9032 Because she let Ice Tee hit in a bathroom . And there was this wild other option !!! Leave this industry. It’s a Satanic filled culture . Speak to the woman who said NO
@@elvisvasquez7553most don't realize that, kudos. I don't know why ppl brush off what being a Video girl consists of......No judgement but it's entertainment businesses. If a singer or actress says they have to do certain things to get ahead, what would a Video girl need to do? She's been Cassie more than likely at some point and it irks me that she doesn't put Flip in his place when he says the most nastiest things...
Yeah, and it's so uncomfortable to listen to that, I had to pause the pod for a second. It's just so disheartening to see that some people don't get it... And it seems like he doesn't want to and is upset with the world changing and trying to be safer for women. 1:30:05
Flip is a child in a grown man's body, so irritating to watch and how Joe enables his behaviour on the pod. I kinda felt slightly bad for him but I didn't when Mel absolutely roasted him on domestic violence/abuse towards women. What Mel said needed to be said to a guy like Flip who thinks preventing women leaving isn't a form of abuse. Once flip's contract is up Joe already got replacements there with Emmani and Jaewon a kid that's a lot more mature & sensible than what a grown adult Flip supposed to be 🤦🏿♂️
@@TheRealShibasaurus shut up what he said went completely over your head. Yall still misunderstanding him. Bc I get 100 percent of what he saying. It’s a lot of niggas that’s been hot and heavy and in the moment with females and sometimes a female will try to resist temptation and she will just give in and years later she can come out years later and say “wait I really didn’t wanna do that” now you goin down for “R word” that’s all flip was tryna say but everybody keep flipping his words up instead of just listening. How is everyone tryna paint him as the bad guy he said some real shit niggas deal with when dealing with females.
@Sponsorship4u2well he is not being charged for what he did to Cassie and it’s not about “what we want” it’s the law and there is precedent for bail here.
@@Swayze_S.LExactly. She leaves, none of these women will support her bc they slick hate on her too bc she still looks good for her age and her topics on female colorism that don’t side with the female masses. Its so easy to see this now
Although nobody asked me…I disagree with Ish on the Shyne stuff. After Shyne did those years, lost his career and got deported, the LEAST Puff could do for him is that money for Belize. He owes Shyne more than that.
Him standing on that strictly from some moral standpoint is so weird to me You did me dirty & now I'm gonna wait to partake in your downfall. That's just what it is. Ish wanna debate how the human brain work 😭
@@Eddie0903 Right! And I don’t even think Shyne is cashing in on his downfall. If anyone outside of the people allegedly abused/exploited by Puff should do it, it should be Shyne but I don’t think he’s interested in that at all.
@Aliferoussss he talking about a code of ethics for street niccas when you take your time you take it. Enemy or not you not supposed to help them book puff or be on record making it worse for him. Might not be right to yall but I get where he coming from
He may not have articulated himself well but the message was received. There is absolutely nothing that stops a woman from consenting and changing her mind at a later date. Nothing to do with the diddler
@@jrcolacola You saw I put “this is Mel I want to see every week?” What does that mean to you? Y’all come up with any reason to leave a negative comment. I said wrong is wrong, that goes for men and women
Flip gave off super guilty vibes. He seemed scared and emotional when going on a tangent about what ifs of a woman coming back to say something nonconsensual happened to her. And then to walk off?? GUILTYYYY
I think Flip commenting on shit he can’t comprehend isn’t the best decision! If you are now questioning things you’ve done to someone in previous relationships most likely you did some shit that was wrong
Makes you wonder how Flip truly treats his wife. He already said he doesn't like her friends. He's the serious one at family events. His energy was very telling speaking on Diddy.
It’s a lot of husbands that don’t like they friends wives. Shut up bro 😂. Bc some men they wives friends are annoying, always in they business, always running to her telling her lies. If yo wife friends was doing that would you like her friends still? Like shut up bro. Nigga been married 15 years. He got this
He just be quiet for the sake of his brand and the show. He know the feminist gon come out swinging for Mel if he say the wrong thing even tho it may be real women don’t wanna hear that shit.
Flip was trying to say there are women that go out there have a good time and then just because their friends or social media Deems who they was having a good time with corny "I didn't even consent to that" or they going to make it seem like it was non-consensual when indeed that was the case that's how you end up with more cases like the Johnny Depp situation
flip was actually the most serious but there was multiple levels of conversation going on. This was a standard moment to defer to women and thus Mel could shine for a moment. Anything close to the real discussion would be bad press and focus with no upside. Flip was caught off guard because he felt they were treating him like he was slow. They were really trying to protect him and he got some quick game and came back. They literally have pros around flown out by athletes and he could literally point to them as he was discussing what you thought was a silly take by flip. The nuance is flip is discussing actually whats going on but this was a moment to state whats expected for the platform with this wide of an audience.
based on the context of the crime he shouldn't - also being evil is immaterial to having or not having bail - I actually agree with your sentiment but were all in trouble when the goverment can be as malicious as we are to each other also engage that way with us.
I don’t think Mel has it out for black men in Hollywood but I think she definitely knows alot of info that she can’t necessarily speak about from her time in the hip hop community. There’s a part of her that probably wants some justice for the stuff that happened to her and the stuff she witnessed.
She definitely does especially after the last episode with her tryna defend hue Hefner but always out for Blacc men the only yt man I heard her talk bad about was trump.
@@tierrab7234 “can’t necessarily speak on” is the reason I don’t be understanding outrage from folks. IF YOU GOT SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY, SAY IT OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR TRUTH.
You look like you still got it but was extra bad back in the day. Using your look to get on can be a positive and negative. Care to share the benefits and negatives with out self incriminating?
Ish is so intentionally difficult with Mel. “I have nothing to say” but then proceeds to have a a lot to say when Flip starts talking. He is so unpleasant.
@@QueXopa79 I concur. His hostility is him trying to hide his attraction to her on air. It's a mask he's wearing and I bet he treats her much better off camera.
I wish Mel wasn't even on the show bc I'm over everything making her a victim. They all cut each other off but the min someone cuts her off, it's misogyny and she's a victim. It's annoying. Just go back to an all guy pod so they don't have to walk on eggshells.
Flip doesn’t understand Kai & Speed can do long content because their audience is young & have time. Your audience is old, no way should a 35+ year old should have time to watch 8+ hour streams.
I think his underlying point was Diddy being the only one in this much trouble for sex parties And domestic violence. That's why he said , so you can't fly out prostitutes anymore. Everyone's doing it..
@@JJune-ei9fu and that is a very dumb argument because you shouldn’t be saying “daddy should get bail cuz these sickos got bail” it should be “all these sickos shouldn’t get bail”, and also he’s literally said “WE’RE outnumbered by society” when speaking on how people use to hold their girls hostage when she was trying to leave
@@detroitsosa I agree but it is a valid question. If one guy gets bail how come another can't get it. Especially when eipsteins crime were wayyy worse ya know.
No, gotta pay attention closer. Hes beating around the bush because you cant jump out and defend puff. He's asking that because plenty plenty people are flying girls out and paying them.... But no one has ever got in trouble for it it's consensual
also they literally have pros that were flown out my multiple athletes on the regular around. Flip is literally looking at them and confused the crew was going to front like he was being slow. I get flip but he took them acting as playing him when they were really trying to protect him. Someone gave him some quick game and he was back.
I read your comment before the video got to this part and died when I saw Joe twitching.. my son does that shit when he’s angry or about to cry lmaooooooo
Flips walk off is very telling. Now he realizes all that rahrah shit can get you caught up. And for the love of God, keep him out of serious conversation.
Flip is SIMPLE. Anything that requires THOUGHT is too much for him. This is the same man who told his son to dump garbage in some brooklyn street then refused to pay bail when his son got booked. He’s a circus clown, nothing more.
But for some reason Joe continues to act like he is the best, I assume his million UA-cam subscribers had something to do with him being signed to this show. Cause he really doesn’t fit
Firstly Flipz isn’t smart enough to have this conversation! It’s soo weird that “black men are scared” like what are you guys talking about??! If you weren’t abusing anyone or doing anything similar to Diddy why are you scared. It’s weird
My girl Mel smoked that topic to make everyone quiet and Flip walk off. 😂😂 Nobody expected that. You should've gave her more props, but maybe you did. I haven't watched all of it just yet 😂😊
@@OMGWorld100she adds value to the mature topics, and she speaks with intelligence. Why don't you have an issue with Flip if that's your argument??? Sounds misogynistic
Thank you Joe for standing behind Mel and that subject on the horrors men do. When you are a good man, you don't look for double standards or outlets for criminals (like Flip was doing).
You think it’s genuine? Casue it’s not in line with most of his thoughts with similar topics. He can see one of these 100 million dollar contracts some podcasts have gotten lately and is acting accordingly
Ish sounds crazy talking abt Shyne. U go serve 10 years for a powerful billionaire… & see how u would handle it. Of course it ruined/changed his life! Like what?!
Ok then you say that from the start and stick to it and you don't accept hush money and cowardly use the kids if Belize as an excuse for being a coward are we talking the same diamonds and mac 10s God Father buried alive
Yes. I believe all of that to be true but the sad part is that he is really accomplished and intelligent himself. Somehow he is very resentful of her. You could see it. And when the others make a joke about her - he enjoys it like his last meal. 😅. It sounds funny but he cuts UP! Loves when there is a chance she will be humiliated. Being frank. I wish she wasn’t on that platform. It’s entertaining to me but they really really do not respect her. Maybe it’s okay to her. Maybe a culture thing. What do I know. I wish them all the best.
Why have a conversation about Diddy criminal case if NOBODY combed through the documentation. Ish saying Kalenna came out in "support" of Diddy. 🤦🏾♀️ NO she did not! Her released statement was AFTER the 54 phone calls.
I really hate when Mel is clear and makes perfect sense that they sit around with that dumb "I ain't gonna say nuthin" face, implying that she's wrong or has no idea of how things really are. It's condescending and undermines her role on the pod. If they can't handle what she's saying, then maybe they haven't taken the time to acknowledge how they may have been problematic in the past.
It amazes me when Flip has his moments of being wrong and then gets clowned for it, he turns into a lil baby crying and whining. “Why you making fun of me?” 😮💨🤣 And proceeds to walk off set when checked 😮💨🥴🤣
Listening to this pod I came to the conclusion that Dot & Cole have mastered the music game. For some reason, Kendrick is the only one that is credited for being ahead of the curve. -Cole beat Hov and got them masters before 40… -Cole created a label with multiple drops, tours, & tv appearances in the middle of “don’t sign to an active artist” era… -Cole kills merch sales (quality pieces) -Cole left Puma to launch his own shoe… -Cole hosted Dreamville fest 5-6 years with minimal participation from Roc -Cole played/succeeded the industry games (listen to the 3rd verse of Let Nas Down) -MDL is the marketing for the Fall-off. Whether you anticipate the album to clown him for the apology or to hear him out, he essentially guaranteed a good sales week. MDL did 115k & 90k its 1st 2 weeks. He’s not top 25 but my he seems to be making a pretty penny from a tape that isn’t highlighted positively… Cole played the game, beat the game and rightfully predicted that he wouldn’t receive his flowers until it was all said and done. This conversation sounds like we’re going to soon land at that point here soon…
I believe Mel has a lot to contribute. While some may say she put herself in a challenging position, it's important to recognize that every situation is unique. I really admire her for being relatable and showcasing her intelligence as a Black woman. Period!
This episode pissed me off. I don’t want to hear them speak anymore on topics pertaining to violence against women. Just nasty. Shooting bail, tryna see both sides, acting like Diddy and his antics haven’t been industry news for years. Cut the shi.
Big Mel! This the first time I felt Mel being really in the moment and talking her shit without trying to censor or overthink how it could effect her. I’m glad she went in on this topic. Go Mel! Keep stepping into your shit! Im a November scorpio as well so I know we pop shit. Don’t worry bout whatever whoever gotta say bout what you say on the pod in general.
Also acknowledging how tough it may have been to speak on what she said from experience and how this may have been a trigger for her in the past so yeah. That’s big as well
We all have to understand Flip hustle is in the world of today and not 20yr aga. You couldnt have smacked a plate out of someone hands in 1999. Instant a### whooping.
Nah ppl pander and they be sponsored by past future men in relationships but say he was brokie or toxic yalls emotions be fuxkn shit up selfishness destroys families yall dont sign up for selective service and die for your country's freedoms but want equal ok start paying bills than equal right? Only when it ebenfits yall
Nah I been to small cottage parties when you show up early it’s just you your actual friend and the party host. You don’t really know the host and your friend ain’t around so y’all just vibing not tryna look like a sucker, and the host a Snapchat ass dude tryna tell ppl to pull up so you just do some shit to keep the vibe.
Joe has me laughing with his comment about free trips, shopping, and men 😂 when he started laughing with Mel and the guys weren’t laughing, I was hollering 😂
Hes saying... the law is the law and shouldn't be bent for anyone. He was saying these people got a treatment.. why dint diddy get it. He's not saying he should bail just cuz.. he's saying keep the same energy for everyone. Yall just sick in the head.
Thank you Mel for explaining it perfectly. Men have had certain behaviors towards women that should have been checked. We are experiencing a change similarly to back in the day when it was a change in age a child could consent because men were raping children. So each generation has this thing where it has to be new boundaries set because humans are horrible beings. Grabbing on womens private parts during parties was never cool, the switching out on a girl in the dark to let your boy hunch her was crazy, taking condoms off without the girls knowledge. Its been a life of fuck shit and we as women always got blamed for it. Either ask a women for consent or let her initiate any activity until you are in a mutually established relationship where you can discuss your boundaries openly. I shouldnt have to live my life where i dont invite men to my home in fear of if i want them to go they wont leave. We all have failed each other on appropriate behaviors
we need to stop comparing cases of today to cases of YEARS AGO. there’s always room to do things better than the cases before so he should NOT be given bail.
There is no speculation on why Diddy didn't get bail. The judge said he's dangerous (that's on video) and his defense could not provide a reasonable answer.
we gotta ban Flip from serious discussion topics 😑this dude always says the dumbest stuff to seem like a contrarian during them…🤦🏽♂️the diddy segment today being an example
I don't think he was playing contrarian as such...I think Parks hit it on the head when he said men are applying messed up ish they have done to this case. Something in this Diddy sit hit him to the core. He was acting far too defensive. Not saying it's at all on the same level, but the comment of not letting your girl leave make me look sideways
@@Tshala292 facts. i mean on custom declaration forms it tells you that the limits of liquor, tobacco, and other products that you are allowed to bring in. often if you just tell them my bad they just throw it away and let you keep it moving.
@@franklinauguste415 I’d switch up to, why would you want to keep contact with someone like that. So what if people went to Diddy parties, if you did nothing wrong or didn’t see any of the BS then you’re good.
@@dictionary9150you can kind of tell his shenanigans and what he brings to the pod is getting stale and unhinged….you can feel the energy shift when he speaks.
Flip is very weird. On one hand the guy is very goal oriented, maintains a marriage and family that he started when most people are out there doing fuck shit. Has reached every professional goal he's set, so far and is generally curious about the how the world works. On the other hand he can't keep his foot out of his mouth, and comes off as a know nothing ninja who lacks empathy or context. It's either the negative side of tunnel vision and he doesn't realize it or just doesn't care about facts.
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The way they won’t let Ish talk around 1:40:00 is nasty. Cutting somebody out of a conversation like this will make a person not even try to be part of a discussion.
Teyana Taylor can't catch a break :( First, she was f'd over by Good Music, and now Diddy! Closer to God is the best track on Diddy's Love album! She is a world-class talent and damn it, just the wrong management.
The crazy part that flip dont understand is Diddy was out here using his power to drug Women annnd Men to have s3x!.. just took it from them like it was a while game to him😔 The victims had nooooo clue what had happened half the time😬
Let's not forget the fact that the first arrest ovthe drug mule was the first snitch. We have to acknowledge the fact that he gave vital information about Diddy, along with the evidence.
They said no to bail packag3 because his crimes happened behind closed doors at his residence so Essentially he can still commit the same crime if out on bail
No one should get bail if they did some fucked up shit. I understand that some people did get bail for way worse but that just shows how fucked up this country is.
Mel is on fire this episode, see what happens when she is given time to talk and not ridiculed after? It's nice they treat her like this now, may it not change
Should've been treated her with respect from the jump..but then again, these are boys in men's bodies. Mel intimidates them with her intelligence.
Nah
It's only because of the subject. They kinda have to shut up.
Lol you’re so blinded
They all joke on each other . Stop being a simp
Flip still not beating the allegations
I like how Mylessa strokes Joe ego to keep the unnecessary heat off her but that’s how u handle a narcissist
Good observation!
I mean, no disrespect to anyone's mental health strategies, but who in the blue hell brings drugs INTO mexico? Also, 'trading' Mel is crazy talk!
Especially a ViRGO uffff!
Yup.
@@DA-pm9onthose who don't have a plug in Mexico? Those who wanna KNOW exactly what they're ingesting by it's proper name without 1 crazy chemical involved that shouldn't be in it?
Much love to Mel, there’s no telling what she has experienced, witnessed and possibly forced to heal silently. 🥺
That’s kinda on her to she pick the fame over what’s right but only has a few things to show for it
My thing is if you’ve been “in that situation” so many times, why did you consistently put yourself in the situation that leads to the other situation?…especially if the situation is expected? Nobody forced her into being a video vixen.
Melissa ford in the Honda accord
She sold her soul long ago lol
@@bigdyce45 yea women should get out of the music industry to avoid the male predators and egomaniacs its def their fault
I agree with Mel. Flip comes from a generation that didn’t view those behaviors as predatory. And his loud defense is truly telling that he would be the type to see a female being raped and step out the room instead of stopping the homie.
I agree ✅
LMAO You got all of that from that short conversation?... Mel is a hypocrite who engaged in what she now demonizes. Ironic, to say the least.
@@elvisvasquez7553 Because you were there? 🤔
@@marcmarell9032 Because she let Ice Tee hit in a bathroom . And there was this wild other option !!! Leave this industry. It’s a Satanic filled culture . Speak to the woman who said NO
@@elvisvasquez7553most don't realize that, kudos. I don't know why ppl brush off what being a Video girl consists of......No judgement but it's entertainment businesses. If a singer or actress says they have to do certain things to get ahead, what would a Video girl need to do? She's been Cassie more than likely at some point and it irks me that she doesn't put Flip in his place when he says the most nastiest things...
Flip is basically saying "oh shyt there are actual consequences to that weird or abusive shit that i thought was just normal for men to do"
Yeah, and it's so uncomfortable to listen to that, I had to pause the pod for a second.
It's just so disheartening to see that some people don't get it... And it seems like he doesn't want to and is upset with the world changing and trying to be safer for women. 1:30:05
He snitch on himself so BAD. It ain't "society" buddy
Consent and non-consent that’s the difference.
Flip is a child in a grown man's body, so irritating to watch and how Joe enables his behaviour on the pod. I kinda felt slightly bad for him but I didn't when Mel absolutely roasted him on domestic violence/abuse towards women. What Mel said needed to be said to a guy like Flip who thinks preventing women leaving isn't a form of abuse. Once flip's contract is up Joe already got replacements there with Emmani and Jaewon a kid that's a lot more mature & sensible than what a grown adult Flip supposed to be 🤦🏿♂️
Exactly. He is so annoying!
Flip basically admittin to doin wack shit to females is not surprising at all considerin the way he always holds himself.
@@TheRealShibasaurus shut up what he said went completely over your head. Yall still misunderstanding him. Bc I get 100 percent of what he saying. It’s a lot of niggas that’s been hot and heavy and in the moment with females and sometimes a female will try to resist temptation and she will just give in and years later she can come out years later and say “wait I really didn’t wanna do that” now you goin down for “R word” that’s all flip was tryna say but everybody keep flipping his words up instead of just listening. How is everyone tryna paint him as the bad guy he said some real shit niggas deal with when dealing with females.
@Sponsorship4u2well he is not being charged for what he did to Cassie and it’s not about “what we want” it’s the law and there is precedent for bail here.
@@Ace-to3qo I think he is being charged for what he did to Cassie
@@JJune-ei9fu if yes then my bad and I need to stfu
Mel deserves better 😩
I agree.. she should leave so we can have our all guys pod back.
@@Swayze_S.LExactly. She leaves, none of these women will support her bc they slick hate on her too bc she still looks good for her age and her topics on female colorism that don’t side with the female masses. Its so easy to see this now
Mel said everything that needed to be said in 2 mins, point blank period! It’s actually insane how slow everyone is.
They know that's how it was! I was a child and figured that out power does crazy things
Although nobody asked me…I disagree with Ish on the Shyne stuff. After Shyne did those years, lost his career and got deported, the LEAST Puff could do for him is that money for Belize. He owes Shyne more than that.
Him standing on that strictly from some moral standpoint is so weird to me You did me dirty & now I'm gonna wait to partake in your downfall. That's just what it is. Ish wanna debate how the human brain work 😭
@@Eddie0903 Right! And I don’t even think Shyne is cashing in on his downfall. If anyone outside of the people allegedly abused/exploited by Puff should do it, it should be Shyne but I don’t think he’s interested in that at all.
@Aliferoussss he talking about a code of ethics for street niccas when you take your time you take it. Enemy or not you not supposed to help them book puff or be on record making it worse for him. Might not be right to yall but I get where he coming from
Yea ish be showing his corny side alot because that made no sense.
Ish meant shyne was weak for switching up on puff after he locked up and he right don't wait till somebody locked up to speak out
Who raised Flip man? His views on women and abuse and very telling.
He makes a valid point, both him and Mel were right.
@Sponsorship4u2well of course you’re a woman so you wouldn’t understand what he was trying to say.
He may not have articulated himself well but the message was received. There is absolutely nothing that stops a woman from consenting and changing her mind at a later date. Nothing to do with the diddler
He low key admitted to abusing women in his past
@@YAYATHEDONCHIC yo bitches been “abused” since the beginning of time. It ain’t right but it also ain’t taboo
Maybe they moved the arrest up because he was contacting Kalenna over 50 times just LAST WEEK after Dawn filed her suit.
Melissa was making BIG points and it made them all uncomfortable. Also Flip is a child he’s annoying AF!
This episode should be called 'the lady and the cavemen'
Oh yea like what?
They were talking about two different things
I been said flip needs to be fired , he’s a weirdo
1:26 Mel ATE this episode, this is the Mel I want to see and hear every week!!!
When it’s time to report some nasty news for black men she shines bright like a diamond lol
@@dmck8516 Nasty news period, don’t matter if it’s about Black men or not. Wrong is wrong, get over it
@@Aishakenya824 cap, when it comes to nasty news about women. She usually hesitate to say something and sometimes give excuses.
@@Aishakenya824 just stating my opinion. But if u say so queen 👸🏽. U have a blessed day I don’t want no smoke.
@@jrcolacola You saw I put “this is Mel I want to see every week?” What does that mean to you? Y’all come up with any reason to leave a negative comment. I said wrong is wrong, that goes for men and women
Flip gave off super guilty vibes. He seemed scared and emotional when going on a tangent about what ifs of a woman coming back to say something nonconsensual happened to her. And then to walk off?? GUILTYYYY
Look folks... another online detective pushing their sick narrative onto people. Grow up
Freaky ass 69god
Hes making good points, but everyone jus knows how it gets interpreted so they stay quiet.
The laws are very vague abd can get someone caught up.
He's an idiot. It was off-topic & stupid. No, Flip. You can't "stop your girl from leaving." Like, what?
Agreed. I really wish they would replace him with em or the new kid.
The Joe story telling skill is unmatched 😂
What did Joe get locked in Mexico for??😅
@@Shawndadon-w8dHis cigars I think
@@Shawndadon-w8d Rellos. And what makes it worse is they have better versions of that, FOR LESS, over there smh
Big facts
7th @@zephaniahmcdanielsday plopped ho 1:45:39 px😅XD
Uu7u7😅
FLIP tells on himself Everytime domestic violence comes up as a topic
Not saying he has abused anyone but he questions his actions or how he treats women
@@brianaeiland9321nah he has and he’s even alluded to doing so
Standard neurotic woman thought process
Just a stupid ass comment
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I think Flip commenting on shit he can’t comprehend isn’t the best decision! If you are now questioning things you’ve done to someone in previous relationships most likely you did some shit that was wrong
His point flying way over your head..
@@nw6860 AND WUT WAS HIS POINT PLS EXPLAIN 6860
@@nw6860rattin' on yourself is wild😂🐀
@@ZIONSFATHERthe law is vague enough to get anyone caught up. Hooking up two people without any money changing hands can be trafficking.
@@nw6860facts its flying over alot of ppl head
Makes you wonder how Flip truly treats his wife. He already said he doesn't like her friends. He's the serious one at family events. His energy was very telling speaking on Diddy.
It’s a lot of husbands that don’t like they friends wives. Shut up bro 😂. Bc some men they wives friends are annoying, always in they business, always running to her telling her lies. If yo wife friends was doing that would you like her friends still? Like shut up bro. Nigga been married 15 years. He got this
Man..
i think we all know how Ish really thinks on some topics .kudos to Mel explaining things she went through
He just be quiet for the sake of his brand and the show. He know the feminist gon come out swinging for Mel if he say the wrong thing even tho it may be real women don’t wanna hear that shit.
DONT CUT ME OFF LET ME FINISH = Repeat the same thing 3 more times 😂
Old head shxt
Podcast with too many people
Anytime y'all have a serious topic, take out Flip... cuz wtf is he talking about?
You’re missing his point.
He there for that
That part Flip is very clueless and naive he’s just need to mute and learn
Flip was trying to say there are women that go out there have a good time and then just because their friends or social media Deems who they was having a good time with corny "I didn't even consent to that" or they going to make it seem like it was non-consensual when indeed that was the case that's how you end up with more cases like the Johnny Depp situation
flip was actually the most serious but there was multiple levels of conversation going on.
This was a standard moment to defer to women and thus Mel could shine for a moment.
Anything close to the real discussion would be bad press and focus with no upside.
Flip was caught off guard because he felt they were treating him like he was slow.
They were really trying to protect him and he got some quick game and came back.
They literally have pros around flown out by athletes and he could literally point to them as he was discussing what you thought was a silly take by flip.
The nuance is flip is discussing actually whats going on but this was a moment to state whats expected for the platform with this wide of an audience.
Fuck Flip saying he should get bail, Diddy doesn't deserve shit. That dude is evil.
based on the context of the crime he shouldn't - also being evil is immaterial to having or not having bail - I actually agree with your sentiment but were all in trouble when the goverment can be as malicious as we are to each other also engage that way with us.
The Prediabetic Loudmouth is pathetic. He kisses anyone's ass that he thinks can help him in some way.
You believe everything your daddy government tells you
I see you ain't say nothing about clide or the universal yeah what he did was wrong but he threw them parties and the white paid for him
He deserve bail..
I don’t think Mel has it out for black men in Hollywood but I think she definitely knows alot of info that she can’t necessarily speak about from her time in the hip hop community. There’s a part of her that probably wants some justice for the stuff that happened to her and the stuff she witnessed.
She definitely does especially after the last episode with her tryna defend hue Hefner but always out for Blacc men the only yt man I heard her talk bad about was trump.
@@tierrab7234 “can’t necessarily speak on” is the reason I don’t be understanding outrage from folks. IF YOU GOT SOMETHING WORTHWHILE TO SAY, SAY IT OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR TRUTH.
This is why Flip belongs in that "dunce chair" (look it up if you don't know) as long as he is on the show. He did not comprehend that convo at all.
He rarely does from what I see
Mel spoke the word. I was in Entertainment for almost fifteen years. IYKYK
You look like you still got it but was extra bad back in the day. Using your look to get on can be a positive and negative. Care to share the benefits and negatives with out self incriminating?
Alot of these people simply have buyers guilt. But now they can look like victims do it's the r word. Smh. Shit nasty.
"I was in entertainment" Yea ok 💀💀
@@67nBrynhurstCuhcause of the way she looked, not sure how that translates to her opinions wanting to be heard on a podcast
Ish is so intentionally difficult with Mel. “I have nothing to say” but then proceeds to have a a lot to say when Flip starts talking. He is so unpleasant.
He’s just light skin thats all
I think he likes her … and fustrated he can’t have her. I hate the way treats her.
@@QueXopa79 I concur. His hostility is him trying to hide his attraction to her on air. It's a mask he's wearing and I bet he treats her much better off camera.
I wish Mel wasn't even on the show bc I'm over everything making her a victim. They all cut each other off but the min someone cuts her off, it's misogyny and she's a victim. It's annoying. Just go back to an all guy pod so they don't have to walk on eggshells.
Facts he too old to be acting like this FREE MEL
Flip doesn’t understand Kai & Speed can do long content because their audience is young & have time. Your audience is old, no way should a 35+ year old should have time to watch 8+ hour streams.
agreed! it takes me 3 days to finish a JBP episode, can't sit here and waste 3 hrs at a time as an adult
@@lionemporor I listen to it while working
I can’t argue with this
@lionemporor I'm glad I'm not the only one that's like that. I thought it was just me.
@@lionempororlmao you're life sucks then 😂
Flip is a “good ole boy” and you can’t convince me otherwise. I promise you his underlying point was “I wish we could go back to how it was”
I think his underlying point was Diddy being the only one in this much trouble for sex parties And domestic violence. That's why he said , so you can't fly out prostitutes anymore. Everyone's doing it..
@@JJune-ei9fu and that is a very dumb argument because you shouldn’t be saying “daddy should get bail cuz these sickos got bail” it should be “all these sickos shouldn’t get bail”, and also he’s literally said “WE’RE outnumbered by society” when speaking on how people use to hold their girls hostage when she was trying to leave
@@JJune-ei9fu if you really watch the segment, flip never agreed with much of any points they made
@@detroitsosa I agree but it is a valid question. If one guy gets bail how come another can't get it. Especially when eipsteins crime were wayyy worse ya know.
@@detroitsosa flip did sound crazzzy though. On the not letting your girl leave part lol can't lie
Mel got Flip all the way together.
"so we not allowed to fly prostitutes outside anymore" -Flip
Joe eyes started to twitch lol . Such a serious topic and this kat spits nonsense
No, gotta pay attention closer. Hes beating around the bush because you cant jump out and defend puff. He's asking that because plenty plenty people are flying girls out and paying them.... But no one has ever got in trouble for it it's consensual
also they literally have pros that were flown out my multiple athletes on the regular around. Flip is literally looking at them and confused the crew was going to front like he was being slow.
I get flip but he took them acting as playing him when they were really trying to protect him.
Someone gave him some quick game and he was back.
I read your comment before the video got to this part and died when I saw Joe twitching.. my son does that shit when he’s angry or about to cry lmaooooooo
It was a good question 🤷🏿♂️
Are you a women.
Bro that's a real thing
Flip been getting on my last nerve. He be DRAGGING it.
😅😅😅😅
Flips walk off is very telling. Now he realizes all that rahrah shit can get you caught up. And for the love of God, keep him out of serious conversation.
He probably got a relationship with druski and didn’t want to be in the shot while Joe was low key clowning 😂😂😂
Flip has and will always be the.dumbest one in Any room.
I agree to a degree, however, he's still learning & striving & I got a feeling they'll build with about it&the comments gonna get'em..lol
Agreed get him off the show he childish trash
I really agree with you. He is too immature for these serious topics
Flip is SIMPLE. Anything that requires THOUGHT is too much for him. This is the same man who told his son to dump garbage in some brooklyn street then refused to pay bail when his son got booked. He’s a circus clown, nothing more.
But for some reason Joe continues to act like he is the best, I assume his million UA-cam subscribers had something to do with him being signed to this show. Cause he really doesn’t fit
Firstly Flipz isn’t smart enough to have this conversation! It’s soo weird that “black men are scared” like what are you guys talking about??! If you weren’t abusing anyone or doing anything similar to Diddy why are you scared. It’s weird
My girl Mel smoked that topic to make everyone quiet and Flip walk off. 😂😂 Nobody expected that. You should've gave her more props, but maybe you did. I haven't watched all of it just yet 😂😊
Yes and someone who was a young woman during that era, famous or not that was exactly how most women felt in the “community”..
@malindaterry8423 yes, that's very brave of you, and her to share. I appreciate your honesty & bravery 🙏🏽
@@shaquanwilson7368 “Brave” stop it 😂😂
They were quiet because they didnt agree
About time Mel had some sort of input on a topic.👏👏👏
It's hard to listen to flip talk.
I agree
coz he aint following the bs like the rest
It really is…
@@shanekane9803no. He is illiterate and can’t read the room. You sound like him
open your ears
Loving Mel's look, the white top, blue jeans and red heels and lipstick --- classic early 2000 vibes
anyone else watched all 3hours then pulled it up to watch it all again🤣this episode was top tier
Ish pouts. The shit is hilarious. He can't even laugh at the Quincy Jones joke because he's too focused on being upset at someone.
Lmfaooo
Reach
he said something about secret garden... he the one that started singing it
The ish energy is so weird.
I see why Mel just tries not to say anything sometimes.
He should've played outstanding😂😂
Why do yall act like she has anything good to say? Her opinions and comments are dumb lol
She’s the issue I think. She loosing friends/drama She gives uppity privileged energy with one view on issues blindly
@@emmettbraziel3281you sound ignorant on your analysis !!
@@OMGWorld100she adds value to the mature topics, and she speaks with intelligence. Why don't you have an issue with Flip if that's your argument??? Sounds misogynistic
Glad Joe check flip immediately with the friend talk
Thank you Joe for standing behind Mel and that subject on the horrors men do. When you are a good man, you don't look for double standards or outlets for criminals (like Flip was doing).
You think it’s genuine? Casue it’s not in line with most of his thoughts with similar topics. He can see one of these 100 million dollar contracts some podcasts have gotten lately and is acting accordingly
When flip walked off my whole family looked at each other and was like how many girls has he “Graped”
Jamie Goxx used to LITERALLY BRAG about him and puffs parties and how freaky they were…..don’t be shocked is all I’m saying.
Ish sounds crazy talking abt Shyne. U go serve 10 years for a powerful billionaire… & see how u would handle it. Of course it ruined/changed his life! Like what?!
Ok then you say that from the start and stick to it and you don't accept hush money and cowardly use the kids if Belize as an excuse for being a coward are we talking the same diamonds and mac 10s God Father buried alive
You sound crazy
@@fiveduece52 I AINT GOIN BK & FORTH WICHU 🥷 😂
Ish been a clown 🤡 his whole life. World class doof with an ego!🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
Then Shyne shouldn’t be on stage with Diddy singing barrington levys part of the song. Foh. The negro populous is allergic to accountability mane
Ish really really hates Melissa. So painfully obvious. She’s not his jam. Sad about that.
It’s very clear now
She is intelligent and he is probably threatened by her. He probably also doesn’t like black women.
Yes. I believe all of that to be true but the sad part is that he is really accomplished and intelligent himself. Somehow he is very resentful of her. You could see it. And when the others make a joke about her - he enjoys it like his last meal. 😅. It sounds funny but he cuts UP! Loves when there is a chance she will be humiliated. Being frank. I wish she wasn’t on that platform. It’s entertaining to me but they really really do not respect her. Maybe it’s okay to her. Maybe a culture thing. What do I know. I wish them all the best.
Why?
@@Tshala292ooh.. what a loser comment lmao.
Why have a conversation about Diddy criminal case if NOBODY combed through the documentation. Ish saying Kalenna came out in "support" of Diddy. 🤦🏾♀️ NO she did not! Her released statement was AFTER the 54 phone calls.
I really hate when Mel is clear and makes perfect sense that they sit around with that dumb "I ain't gonna say nuthin" face, implying that she's wrong or has no idea of how things really are. It's condescending and undermines her role on the pod. If they can't handle what she's saying, then maybe they haven't taken the time to acknowledge how they may have been problematic in the past.
It amazes me when Flip has his moments of being wrong and then gets clowned for it, he turns into a lil baby crying and whining.
“Why you making fun of me?” 😮💨🤣
And proceeds to walk off set when checked 😮💨🥴🤣
Grown ass kid
Listening to this pod I came to the conclusion that Dot & Cole have mastered the music game. For some reason, Kendrick is the only one that is credited for being ahead of the curve.
-Cole beat Hov and got them masters before 40…
-Cole created a label with multiple drops, tours, & tv appearances in the middle of “don’t sign to an active artist” era…
-Cole kills merch sales (quality pieces)
-Cole left Puma to launch his own shoe…
-Cole hosted Dreamville fest 5-6 years with minimal participation from Roc
-Cole played/succeeded the industry games (listen to the 3rd verse of Let Nas Down)
-MDL is the marketing for the Fall-off. Whether you anticipate the album to clown him for the apology or to hear him out, he essentially guaranteed a good sales week. MDL did 115k & 90k its 1st 2 weeks. He’s not top 25 but my he seems to be making a pretty penny from a tape that isn’t highlighted positively…
Cole played the game, beat the game and rightfully predicted that he wouldn’t receive his flowers until it was all said and done. This conversation sounds like we’re going to soon land at that point here soon…
I'm putting my money on we're gonna get a Cole and Kendrick collab sometime in the future
I doubt it@@Afrokingtheartist
@@Afrokingtheartist oh I’m with you. I KNOW we’ll see a Cole and Dot song and it will be bigger and better than FPS
I believe Mel has a lot to contribute. While some may say she put herself in a challenging position, it's important to recognize that every situation is unique. I really admire her for being relatable and showcasing her intelligence as a Black woman. Period!
This episode pissed me off. I don’t want to hear them speak anymore on topics pertaining to violence against women. Just nasty. Shooting bail, tryna see both sides, acting like Diddy and his antics haven’t been industry news for years. Cut the shi.
Thats you guys problem you to dumb to see the big picture
I love Joe's singing voice
Big Mel! This the first time I felt Mel being really in the moment and talking her shit without trying to censor or overthink how it could effect her. I’m glad she went in on this topic. Go Mel! Keep stepping into your shit! Im a November scorpio as well so I know we pop shit. Don’t worry bout whatever whoever gotta say bout what you say on the pod in general.
Also acknowledging how tough it may have been to speak on what she said from experience and how this may have been a trigger for her in the past so yeah. That’s big as well
This!!! 🎯🎯🎯
Flip brain doesn’t have the capacity to outgrow his ignorance and it’s clear
He is there to be flip! If you expect more you’re asking for too much dummy.
what brain?
Don't understand how he's married
We all have to understand Flip hustle is in the world of today and not 20yr aga. You couldnt have smacked a plate out of someone hands in 1999. Instant a### whooping.
Flip shined on this episode,”Flip with information is peak flip” 🔥🔥🔥
The flip walk-off is getting corny, when is his contract up??
😆😂🤣
Word!
“When is his contract up” lmaooooo sick!
he always does the same played out antics every episode.
Literally just a black thing.
mel could say water is wet and ish would still find a way to disagree with her….😑dude is a whole weirdo towards women
Im glad people are finally noticing it
Somebody gotta be a man on this pod…..none of them are but at least Ish stand on business.
Nah ppl pander and they be sponsored by past future men in relationships but say he was brokie or toxic yalls emotions be fuxkn shit up selfishness destroys families yall dont sign up for selective service and die for your country's freedoms but want equal ok start paying bills than equal right? Only when it ebenfits yall
Please explain what you mean? Be specific as possible be
@@DragonsDK and then a few minutes later hes gonna make her same point and think he did something 👀
Nah, Flip had off takes this whole episode…
Can’t say I’ve ever had a glass of wine in my hand as I dance while the night is winding down with someone I wouldn’t consider my friend 😂
Nah I been to small cottage parties when you show up early it’s just you your actual friend and the party host. You don’t really know the host and your friend ain’t around so y’all just vibing not tryna look like a sucker, and the host a Snapchat ass dude tryna tell ppl to pull up so you just do some shit to keep the vibe.
Joe has me laughing with his comment about free trips, shopping, and men 😂 when he started laughing with Mel and the guys weren’t laughing, I was hollering 😂
Just because worst criminals got bail doesn't mean he should get bail. They shouldn't have had bail either. That's insane.
💯
None of shouldn’t have got bail but they did because they are white and that is flips point
Hes saying... the law is the law and shouldn't be bent for anyone. He was saying these people got a treatment.. why dint diddy get it. He's not saying he should bail just cuz.. he's saying keep the same energy for everyone. Yall just sick in the head.
Hello!!
@@Escobar-zx4sewe live in America, we already know the law don't work the same for everyone, as fucked up as that is that's how it's always been...
Flip has an elementary school rhetoric
4 grade to be specific..40% of the words he uses I'm convinced he only loosely understands the gist of
100% fax
Just like this comment? Lol
Yea, Very immature at times..
Thank you Mel for explaining it perfectly. Men have had certain behaviors towards women that should have been checked. We are experiencing a change similarly to back in the day when it was a change in age a child could consent because men were raping children. So each generation has this thing where it has to be new boundaries set because humans are horrible beings.
Grabbing on womens private parts during parties was never cool, the switching out on a girl in the dark to let your boy hunch her was crazy, taking condoms off without the girls knowledge. Its been a life of fuck shit and we as women always got blamed for it. Either ask a women for consent or let her initiate any activity until you are in a mutually established relationship where you can discuss your boundaries openly. I shouldnt have to live my life where i dont invite men to my home in fear of if i want them to go they wont leave. We all have failed each other on appropriate behaviors
we need to stop comparing cases of today to cases of YEARS AGO. there’s always room to do things better than the cases before so he should NOT be given bail.
Flip seriously scares me with ALOT of his thoughts/opinions on the more serious topics.......
There is no speculation on why Diddy didn't get bail. The judge said he's dangerous (that's on video) and his defense could not provide a reasonable answer.
He was witness tampering. That's a no no
we gotta ban Flip from serious discussion topics 😑this dude always says the dumbest stuff to seem like a contrarian during them…🤦🏽♂️the diddy segment today being an example
Facts
Yet he think he's the flyest. 😂 yeah he's been on his bs recent. I think he doubles down because he perceives that's what people want.
I don't think he was playing contrarian as such...I think Parks hit it on the head when he said men are applying messed up ish they have done to this case. Something in this Diddy sit hit him to the core. He was acting far too defensive. Not saying it's at all on the same level, but the comment of not letting your girl leave make me look sideways
Y'all are 🤡s
exactly
1:24:57 flip thinking he is cooking but joe cooked him a min later 1:25:50 lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂 that part sent me
That was hilarious.
"Why you making fun of me for?" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@elias.236haha they make fun of Mel all the time and she never complains 😂😂
@@LittleSpoonLonzonah she definitely has 😂😂
Ish calling Mel “Queen” told me A LOT
This fool thinks he’s so clever
Flip is a creep
You just a sick individual pushing shit into people.
He’s glaze ing for Diddy
We need Mo's side of the Mexico story for real for real
Right. You know Joe’s story is mad exaggerated. He probably just had to pay duties.
😂😂😂
@@Tshala292 facts. i mean on custom declaration forms it tells you that the limits of liquor, tobacco, and other products that you are allowed to bring in. often if you just tell them my bad they just throw it away and let you keep it moving.
Now puff never was your friend 😂.
Fax now he wants nothing to do with puff.😅
Corny at its finest 😂😂😂
The switch up is real .where all Dem people that was dying to go to Dem white parties 🎉🤦🏿♂️
Ahha this man Joe funny asf he used to say he loves puff and celebrate him all the time
@@franklinauguste415 I’d switch up to, why would you want to keep contact with someone like that. So what if people went to Diddy parties, if you did nothing wrong or didn’t see any of the BS then you’re good.
Gotta love Ish’s love/hate relationship with Flip. Mainly hate, but Flip makes him laugh sometimes
Bro the trading people segment needs to be every pod that was hilarious
When Joe said “I be aligning too” I lost it 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀‼️‼️
Flip… count your days baby😂 it’s comin. Better see if Rory and Mal got an extra chair
why you say that? lol what do you think will be his last straw
@@dictionary9150you can kind of tell his shenanigans and what he brings to the pod is getting stale and unhinged….you can feel the energy shift when he speaks.
@@dictionary9150he was extremely close this pod to saying something that would cause a issue.
@@declass9481lies
Maaannn people been saying thaylt bs about everyone since the literal day ish and ice came to help. Please stop with that nonsense narrative.
Joe was describing the pebbles on Puff’s beach talking about how he left his AirPods… but now he not friends lmao
Thank you just up there lying. He been d sucking Diddy for years and knew the dirt on his name
Called him about his album and puff answers? PUFF ANSWERS. Billion dollar puff.
Yo when Mel said she and Megan good had one of the same dudes bro how I wanna be that dude
Flip can be annoying but the vitriol y’all commenting towards him is OD😂
That's what I'm saying. They really swinging at his neck.
Some ppl really don't like stupidity and I don't blame them. Even if flip is right he says things in the most ignorant way you could say them
I agree.
@@iquanwilliams4905 which part do you feel was stupid?
@@mixtapeweezy6871 somewhere between where he started talking and where he got butt hurt
Thank you Mel for explaining that to flip
Flip is very weird. On one hand the guy is very goal oriented, maintains a marriage and family that he started when most people are out there doing fuck shit. Has reached every professional goal he's set, so far and is generally curious about the how the world works.
On the other hand he can't keep his foot out of his mouth, and comes off as a know nothing ninja who lacks empathy or context.
It's either the negative side of tunnel vision and he doesn't realize it or just doesn't care about facts.
God favors kids and fools. I'm sure I herd that somewhere before
It's ignorance. And sadly, he can't outgrow it.
Yay! I'm here!! God is so good. I am making pumpkin bread with toasted walnuts and chocolate chips with fried eggs and pan sausage. I am aaaaalso about to put on a roast for tonight. Hope y'all have a great Sunday!
I’m coming over to yours eat. You had me at pumpkin bread 😂
@@mjllw2000 Haha! It’s so good too… 💃🏿
🎉
Why is Flip still on here?
Idk why u a hater 😂😂
Contract probably guaranteed
Lmao stop watching if y'all so tired of Flip 🤷🏿♂️😂😂😂😂
Flip is hilarious 😂
Joe knows his music, knows his culture . Starting off with The Winans. Yessuh!!!!
The way they won’t let Ish talk around 1:40:00 is nasty. Cutting somebody out of a conversation like this will make a person not even try to be part of a discussion.
This literally happens to everyone on the pod. Yall always crying about everything.
Teyana Taylor can't catch a break :( First, she was f'd over by Good Music, and now Diddy!
Closer to God is the best track on Diddy's Love album! She is a world-class talent and damn it, just the wrong management.
Don’t forget Pharrell too
@@JamaalMills Damn it ! You are so so so right! He’s one of the biggest frauds in the industry! Every beat he has touch has a lawsuit attached to it!
Ish really a reactive weirdo with an annoying ego
The crazy part that flip dont understand is Diddy was out here using his power to drug Women annnd Men to have s3x!.. just took it from them like it was a while game to him😔 The victims had nooooo clue what had happened half the time😬
What are u bugging so go to publicly know s3x with no intentions of having s3x ok women logic
Now Joe wanna act like he ain't been sayin' Puff is his man 🤣
"Mexico can really use some Mexicans" ~Joe
This is hilarious because it's so true. 😂
Mal would’ve cooked Joe for saying him and diddy weren’t friends 😂
Why? They aren’t friends. He worked for Puff and respects his Legend status in the music business. How does that make them friends?
@@farrellcityking1 I don’t need the buddies to regurgitate everything Joe said I watched the pod already lil bro
@@etherealmachinalmao
@@farrellcityking1There’s literally viral videos of joe and diddy dancing and drinking together without anyone else around 😂
Let's not forget the fact that the first arrest ovthe drug mule was the first snitch. We have to acknowledge the fact that he gave vital information about Diddy, along with the evidence.
They said no to bail packag3 because his crimes happened behind closed doors at his residence so Essentially he can still commit the same crime if out on bail
Best explanation I’ve heard so far 🎯
Joe's definitely the buddy you meet outside a bar smoking a heater😂
Interesting to see Joe talk down on Puff but will tell the young African Artist she is wrong for not dancing with Usher
Cassie sued Puffs Corporation, as she was an employee. Smart. The company settled the lawsuit. The Puff case is seperate.
The argument Ish and Flip are making on the bail is very faulty.
No one should get bail if they did some fucked up shit. I understand that some people did get bail for way worse but that just shows how fucked up this country is.