Doctor Who Viewing Figures Are Down But There's No Need To Panic! (At least not yet)
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- Doctor Who Viewing Figures Are Down But There's No Need To Panic! (At least not yet)
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Doctor Who is a British science-fiction television programme broadcast by the BBC since 1963. The programme depicts the adventures of a Time Lord called the Doctor, an extraterrestrial being who appears to be human. The Doctor explores the universe in a time-travelling space ship called the TARDIS. The TARDIS exterior appears as a blue British police box, which was a common sight in Britain in 1963 when the series first aired. With various companions, the Doctor combats foes, works to save civilisations, and helps people in need.
Beginning with William Hartnell, fifteen actors have headlined the series as the Doctor. The transition from one actor to another is written into the plot of the show with the concept of regeneration into a new incarnation, a plot device in which a Time Lord "transforms" into a new body when the current one is too badly harmed to heal normally.
The fourteenth series of the British science fiction television programme Doctor Who is set to premiere on 11 May 2024, and is expected to air through to 22 June. It will be the fifth series led by Russell T Davies as head writer and executive producer and the first since his return to the show, having previously worked on it from 2005 to 2010. This series is set to be the fourteenth to air following the programme's revival in 2005 and will be the fortieth season overall. The fourteenth series was announced with Davies' return to the programme for its 60th anniversary in 2023 and beyond, with Bad Wolf becoming a co-producer for the series. The series is referred to in marketing and promotional material as "Season One" following the production changes and the acquisition of Doctor Who's international broadcasting rights by Disney+.
The series stars Ncuti Gatwa as the Fifteenth Doctor, a new incarnation of the Doctor, an alien Time Lord who travels through time and space in the TARDIS, which appears to be a British police box from the outside. The Fifteenth Doctor was introduced in "The Giggle" (2023) through a "bi-generation", in which he split from his predecessor, the Fourteenth Doctor (David Tennant), rather than replacing him. The series also introduces Millie Gibson as the Doctor's newest companion, Ruby Sunday.
The series, which was preceded by a Christmas episode on 25 December 2023, will consist of eight episodes, which have been directed by Julie Anne Robinson, Ben Chessell, Dylan Holmes Williams, and Jamie Donoughue. Alongside Davies, who wrote six of the episodes, the writers include Kate Herron, Briony Redman, and former showrunner and head writer Steven Moffat. Filming began in December 2022 and concluded in July 2023. It was the first series to be produced at Wolf Studios Wales following the move from Roath Lock Studios for the preceding anniversary specials.
Auditions for the role of the Fifteenth Doctor started in December 2021, assisted by casting director Andy Pryor. Davies was interested in casting "new talent" and someone "younger", with most of the actors who auditioned under the age of 30. There was also no limit on gender and background, with auditions held for men, women, and one non-binary actor. Pryor said that when casting the Doctor, "you always want someone unexpected... an actor who contrasts with what's gone before yet still brings those essential qualities that the Doctor has". Ncuti Gatwa was the final candidate to audition for the role. Davies said that the production team "thought [they] had someone and then in he came and stole it", describing it as "the most blazing audition". Executive producer Phil Collinson stated that Gatwa "did things with [the role] that I'd never seen an actor playing Doctor Who do".
On 9 January 2023, the BBC announced that Aneurin Barnard would appear as the mysterious Roger ap Gwilliam, and that Jemma Redgrave, having reprised her role in the previous series would continue to appear as Kate Stewart during the fourteenth series. On 20 January 2023, further casting announcements from the BBC revealed that Anita Dobson and Michelle Greenidge would appear as Ms Flood and Carla Sunday. On 3 April 2023, it was announced that Jinkx Monsoon would play a major antagonistic role in the series, called "Maestro". On 5 May 2023, it was announced that Jonathan Groff would play a key role in the series. On 24 May 2023, the BBC announced that Indira Varma would join the series to play The Duchess. On 7 June 2023, Bonnie Langford was announced to be reprising her role as Mel Bush for the series. On 15 June 2023, Lenny Rush was also announced, to play a "mysterious" character named Morris. Alexander Devrient will reprise his role as Colonel Christopher Ibrahim.
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The creator and star told their audience to fuck off... and we did.
How so??
They didn't
@@nillsthefunexpert2571 um but they basically did. And we’re okay with that
@@Kiss_lynda Um, but they literally didn't. The obsessive anti-woke propagandists spun it like that, and some of their cultish drones were thick enough to swallow it.
Yes they did@@nillsthefunexpert2571
Doctor Who viewing figures are DOWN? How did THAT happen? I;m sure no one predicted that! LOL
Comment section is in death bed, and breathing through copium.
They told the audience that "If you don't like it, go touch grass"
The actual audience touches grass.
And now they're suprised.
At least this time they blamed the weather and not the audience.
Is still pathetic, but at least they didn't call everyone racist
Give it a day or so, they'll be screaming "Racists, bigots, phobes" within a day or so. Davies, Gatwa, and Co. did everything they could to alienate the classic Doctor Who audiences well in advance of the show's premiere. And their mantra of "Don't like it, don't watch it, touch grass, etc." was met with most long-time fans saying "Your terms are acceptable."
And yet, when the audiences don't show up, the show's creators will ask "Why didn't they watch??" And the answer will be "Because you told us to shove off." Remember this as the show's ratings plummet over the season.
Can't say what the long term ratings will be in England, but in the States, Disney+ ratings will take at least a week to sort themselves out since no streaming service, including Disney, releases their official viewing numbers, they have to come from Nielson, Samba, and other ratings services. But the numbers will come out. And Disney's subsidizing the show's final two seasons isn't going to turn things around. This _will_ be the end.
Not made for normal people so the viewing figures represent that.
They told me not to watch….happy to oblige
Funny seeing all the excuses for the low viewing figures, someone even said because of good weather 😂
Do you still watch programmes on the television when they are broadcast then? I thought no one did that any more these days.
Good weather in the UK is such a comparative rarity, especially at the moment, that many people - especially families with children of the right age to be into Doctor Who - will have gone out that afternoon, to take advantage of the sunshine. That's not an excuse, but a fact of life.
@@koolbananaThe whole it’s too warm to watch it is a stupid excuse. The show used to get around 10-12 million viewers when it used to air around April-July during The David Tennant era.
@@koolbanana of course not, I live in Spain, we don't start watching TV until midnight and by then everything is a repeat of a repeat
That is the problem. The figures will not effectively represent what is happening any more because there are different ways to view this. You'd have to know what Disney + and iPlayer numbers are on top to get a decent picture of the overall impact.
so.. u mean all u need is a basic grasp of math to add them all up??? Its not the enigma machine u know.. u can get a good reading with all audience scores.. oh.. and when.. (not if) when.. disney dumps this smouldering trashfire of a show.. u will also get the message i feel.. no math needed on that one!
Just making a video like this implies that you are actually worried, irrespective of your claims otherwise. Gaslighting yourself is not mentally healthy.
Or hear me out here. He's getting ahead of the tons of people in the comments who don't understand live viewing figures mean nothing for a show that debuted on a streaming service. Not only did it debut 18 hours before the live run, but let's be honest, live TV is pretty dead in 2024. Even ITV made a brand new streaming service because they know live TV can't keep up
@@SnowLily06 Exactly, but it suits the haters' agenda to ignore the facts.
The overnight figures come from the houses with the BARBS box installed, your view is not counted to the overnights in any way shape of form.
I think the numbers are quite impressive considering it was on iplayer beforehand, I wonder if we’ll get the streaming numbers for the iplayer?
iPlayer viewing figures will be included in the 7-day and 24-day stats.
These figures are the second and third worst overnights in the history of the show. Only Legend of the Sea Devil at the end of the Whittaker Chibnall era was lower and this is a New Doctor who traditionally gets a massive bump in the ratings. I guess we can only hope the consolidated ratings push it a lot higher but right now I think it may struggle to get 4.5 million.
@@user-hl1ex6py8l I wonder how many watched "Legend of the Sea Devils" on iPlayer after midnight on the morning before it went out on TV? That's how I watched Space Babies/Devil's Chord, and I'm sure I wasn't alone.
Given modern TV viewing habits, by far the worst overnights in the history of the show were during the Colin Baker and (especially) McCoy eras. Neither of those Doctors ever got a story into the Top 50 weekly charts, and many of their stories didn't even trouble the Top 80. And this was at a time when Doctor Who only had three other channels to compete with.
@@user-hl1ex6py8lthis is also the only time they released on iplayer first though so barely anyone watched it live when they had 18 hours to watch it prior
appeal to the masses not the asses
It’s filth. It’s Glee without the humor. It’s high school musical without wholesomeness.
I watched at midnight when a new doctor who episode is out i cannot resist i have to watch it lol
Just curious: When is the time to panic?
If we get confirmation that nobody watched it on iPlayer or Disney, which isn’t the case.
@@Sparx632 So 0 views, which is impossible for any show?
@@mattevans4377 obviously no, but low viewership. iPlayer and Disney probably account for millions more views.
@@Sparx632 I watched it on iPlayer before BBC One broadcast, so at least 1 person did.
They'll be making the same video the day Disney fails to renew for a third season and BBC finally kills the show.
7 mil watching the 60th in the first week of airing is 10% of the UK population. Which is actually kinda wild considering the dominance of streaming
Doctor Who was insanely popular back in the day. Cult classic. These days are gone now though.
@@inquerion886710% of the population isn’t popular?
@@inquerion8867 Times have changed since 2005. No-one really watches TV anymore.
@@Sparx632 That was months ago. And it was a special 60th anniversary episode, not the regular one.
Recent Doctor Who episode had 2.4 million
@@inquerion8867 yeah so what changed in 5 months? The quality certainly hasn’t, the cast hasn’t, the creative team hasn’t. Oh yeah, the episode was available to watch on iPlayer all day on Saturday and views on there don’t count towards TV ratings, literally the only possible explanation.
I watched it the night before it aired on terrestrial TV.
I'm glad I came across your channel. I'm always up for commentary and opinion from a true fan passionate about the subject.
I was out at the time, walking my dog,… in a field.
EE often drops well below 2 million.
It's been 5th in the Iplayer charts all weekend,
its been number 4 streaming in America on Disney +
In all honesty over nights and given the direction RTD has taken the show
are all but pointless. You summed the situation up in seconds certain creators who already are screaming how they hate the show are diving on this, But being negative always brings in more ££££. It's either going to work or not one thing I dont want to happen is "OMG we must bring back DT" like he becomes a smash in case of emergency.
'But being negative always brings in more ££££' Most creators will tell you they get more views form things people like.
Any update on viewing totals?
4 million for Space Babies and 3.9 million for The Devils Chord so about 1.5 million watched on iPlayer which is the usual average amount so having them on there before TV broadcast made no difference so a pointless exercise, basically half the people who watched the specials , watched these episodes and Boom will probably be even lower with the 2 million overnights.
@@garypayne4284 interesting, I don't see those numbers anywhere.
@@MrShowoff27Barb website and now on most websites that cover this sort of thing, Radio Times, TV Zone etc.
The Eurovision Song Contest still managed a respectable 7,6 million later on in the evening.
Yeah but that also didn’t drop 18hrs ahead of time lol
A pretty different scenario to say the least
@@Tharriesnor is it on any streaming platform.
I think the point is, because Eurovision has had so much free publicity in the news, it was going to get a boost, which should help whatever's on before or after.
Peaked at over eight million. So the BBC scheduled Doctor Who on the gayest night of the year and it still fails! LOL
The people who fund the programme (not the creators or showrunners) WILL be looking at the overnights. They will compare those numbers against numbers from outputs in similar timeslots of day/week/month and they will be considering if the numbers represent a good return on their investment. And when alternatives such as much cheaper gameshows or programmes about antiques get higher figures, the funding people will not exactly be cheering.
Sadly, the episodic nature means that there is not enough story arc material to keep views invested with looming threats or mysterious resolutions drawn out over a long time. There is not really a lot of mystery with these two, and song and dance numbers don't really deliver it.
No they won't. The BBC and Disney are fully aware that the majority of fans will have watched on iplayer and the BBC don't count iplayer views in the overnight figures. And did you really just say there isn't mystery?? So you know everything about Ruby, her parents, her life? You know who the One Who Waits is? You know who Mrs Flood is? You know who Susan twists character is?
@@mrdr0161 Wow. I guess the mods deleted my initial response. Can't imagine why 🙄
So, in simple terms, "Yes they will" .
The funders compare like for likes. Capaldi, Smith and Whittaker all had overnight openings before iPlayer between 7 and 10 mil , and iPlayer was VERY active then. So the 2nd Tennant and Ncuti numbers do not look good as returns on investment.
And as for Mystery punch to keep you hooked, the main characters have the length and breadth of the universe with each of its minor and major tribulations through the entirety of time as its disposal, but you think simply finding out slightly more about characters we already met or yet to meet is what viewers are going to passionately invest in as each episode drops? That's a pretty low bar.
The writers are turning into an end-of-the-pier pantomime, conveyorbelt villains and sidekicks won't turn the numbers round.
This is 2024 they don't only look at live TV figures for a show that released 18 hours prior on a streaming service.
@@SnowLily06 Yes they will. The funders compare like for likes. Capaldi, Smith and Whittaker all had overnight openings before iPlayer between 7 and 10 mil , and iPlayer was VERY active then. So the 60anniv Tennant and Ncuti numbers do not look good as returns on investment. iPlayer streaming has been around for 16 years, its not a new thing. If the streaming figures were that great they would be screaming about them, but the silence is deafening. A further Comparison is ITV new Drama "Red Eye" which was entirely released for streaming for free 2 days earlier, but still managed to pull in over 4million viewers on the overnights, at a much later slot. I guess there are 4 million more people needing to be told its 2024.
Live viewings don't even kind of matter in 2024.
its russell now is it ??? (and how many viewers watched the eurovision song contest in the uk )
Not to be that guy but frankly Ncuti's very dodgy comments didn't help. Which is a shame because he's a fantastic actor and there was no need to get political. Just my opinion though
I cancelled my tv licence.
Dr Who has ironically lost his identity completely, not about to even pee in the doorway for the amount of people rushing out that door isn't closing, theres to many people leaving and it hasn't hit anybody yet, tell the cast to turn the lights off when they leave because there won't be anyone else left to do it for you.
Dude, the episode was bad. It was silly
Honestly I know we may never know, but I'm interested in knowing the amount of people who watched at mid night.
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The shows been in decline since David Tennant left, that's probably why they bought him back to get people interested again
And if you were an Indian your name would be Talking Bollocks, weasel faced Tennant is the worst Doctor in 60 years and the Moffat era was the best of New Who. Turdy Davies is only interested in making Doctor Who for the hateful Rainbow brigade and his fellow arse bandits.
@@paulholgate4664 jump
This was bound to happen with many people watching the episodes on i-player before they were broadcast on the BBC. Do viewing figures mean anything nowadays?
yes.. it means the same as it did THEMDAYS... NOWDAYS and ANYOTHER DAYS u want to include.. it tells u how many people are staying away from this dumpster fire of a show!
@sheepthehack Dr who is, as its always been, the very best tv show ever.
Live TV viewing figures don't but we will soon get the iplayer and disney+ viewing figures
With everything building up to that, it’s really unsurprising. It wasn’t a premiere, and most fans had already seen it.
As the lead in to Eurovision and with all the publicity I would've expected far more people to tune in. But people actively waited until Doctor Who had finished before switching onto BBC One.
It is a poor debut figure. Sure, a lot of people will watch (in their own time) on IPlayer, but genuinely thought it would be a much higher number.
People actually switched off after the first episode and came back when the second episode had ended - not good,
Or they watched doctor who in the 18 hours prior and then watched eurovision
I watched on iplayer as soon as the episodes dropped at midnight. I’ll most likely never watch on BBC One again unless that’s my only option.
when you tell people to fuck of, or that this show is not made for them, people stay away.
I think it falls under fuck around, find out?
Well if the episodes have been released before hand, there aren’t going to be that many people watching what is essentially a re-run
Plus with the state of television these days I’m surprised they even cracked a million
Fact is that Disney paid for 2 full Seasons and no matter what, we will get at least 2 Seasons. After that (~2025-2026)? Everything can happen, including cancellation.
They've just finished filming the second season so we're definitely getting that
@@ishaandw Yes, I know. Now they will spend some time making CGI and effects.
The real question is if Disney is going to be satisfied enough to commission any more seasons. I know RTD is apparently doing some early work on a third season, but we'll see.
As an oldie who watched the first episode of Dr Who hiding behind a sofa at a tenth birthday party sitting through this pretentious claptrap was sheer torture not entertaining just plain boring and very silly,poor William Hartnell must be turning in his grave!
I'm a young man, my first was Jon Pertwee! 😉 And so would he and Pat be spinning!
Both stories were the usual Russell T Davies agenda bring back capaldi.
I've watched Doctor Who since the 80's, though I still haven't seen most of the original Who yet. Many years ago, started watching from the beginning, though ended up moving on to other things as it got tiring having to do research on the missing episodes to try and keep the story straight. So lucky for me, is there is still a ton of original Doctor Who left for me to watch since new Who has been crap for many years now.
I think the only real good Who was in the Tennant years, though quality dropped towards the end.
Tom Baker will be laughing at this crap and reminding himself that he is the Doctor, the definite article!
What a huge amount of cope and spin 🙄🙄🙄
It's a lot, lot worse then you think considering the massive, massive amount of publicity and hype across all forms of social media and adverts ( which must of cost a fortune) to only reep in theses results..
These aren't the results! There were 18 hours for people to watch it before it was on live TV these viewing figures mean literally nothing
@SnowLily06 keep telling yourself that
@@INFJason I do quite enjoy knowing the truth you should try it I completely recommend
@@SnowLily06Well the 7+ day figures are in and not good only about 1.5m added to overnights which makes the episodes a couple of the worse viewed episodes in the history of the show.
I watched at midnight on iplayer, and didn't watch it on tv later. Many others will have done the same. Then of course there's a lot of people these days who wait until a season has completely dropped, and then they binge watch it. Those figures will also count down the line. The BBC is not going to judge the success of their push to make Doctor Who a streaming hit based on the figures of who still watches on Saturday night at 6.30pm. They'll be looking at the streaming figures and the viewing habits.
Eveyone putting a brave face on it but the BBC will have been hoping for 4-5 Million - you can go on about streaming, iplay, disney - but its low
I watched on Iplayer at 10am yesterday... no need to watch at the BBC One airing time!
After episode 3 viewing figures what are OP's thoughts?
Unchanged, we still don't have 7 day figures.
@@TharriesOn Barb now and they are not great.
How is this comment section so illiterate they can't understand the basic concept that barely anyone who watched it watched it on live tv.
The argument that linear overnight viewing figures are down because people watched early on the IPlayer, doesn't take in to account that casual viewers that watched the IPlayer early would probably be the same casual viewers that watch the IPlayer normally after linear transmission. They are only going to watch it once, so it doesn't really matter when, the plus 7 day figures will be similar. Obviously hard core fans will watch at the first possible opportunity, but people who go out will watch when they get back from the pub, or on Sunday afternoon. The BBC caught the Friday night crowd, rather than the Saturday night crowd. It is older viewers, who have always watched BBC1/ITV in a linear fashion, who probably watched it while they were eating their dinner, waiting from something else to come on like Eurovision. Maybe Doctor Who has changed too much from the one they remember watching in the past and they switched over to ITV. The BBC is keen to focus more on the younger generation now. They need to persuade more youth to watch to compensate for the long term Doctor Who older viewers who are losing interest and channel switching.
I watched it Friday and Saturday on Disney+. I think the problem is that the show is on a streaming platform and Chibnell as a show runner didn't help.
The way we watch television is changing. It's been said before, but it's even more true now. I used to watch episodes on broadcast, live. This time, I watched Space Babies on iPlayer at about 1am on Saturday morning, as I'd been our taking pictures of the Northern Lights! I've just watched the Devil's Chord, on my phone, in the garden (7.00pm on Sunday evening). Neither of these viewings will have contributed towards the overnight figures. How many other people watched in a similar way, or a completely different way? Technology now means we don't have to watch there and then. And that's why so many people now catch up, at their convenience. Final figures taking all viewing streams are the ones to take notice of now
IMO I think the episodes coming out at 12am was a bad plan
Tried fixing it but totally fukt it
stop caring decades ago about this show
the first episode was confusing and had dodgy cgi the second was cringey the fact they use sunny weather as an excuse just shows there making excuses for how bad it is. Never thought i’d be with the Dr Who is dead crowd but now i am. I’ve even read comments from gay people saying this doesn’t represent them and there sick of rtd thinking it does.
Doctor Who always used to air around March/April during The original RTD era and it was a massive success. What happened was the show started going downhill during Series 5 and it hasn’t recovered since.
DOCTOR WHO Shills PANIC It's impossible to spin this disaster, unless we're talking about a tailspin as in crash and burn. People are touching grass and watching them chase their mythical « modern » audience.
I watched it on iPlayer Friday night here in the States using a VPN so I guess I’ll never be counted.
What really matters is how it does on Disney plus in the US. Because Disney is paying for the show.
it averaged 300,00 and less in previous seasons. i doubt it will be much better on Disney.
Well, they already tried to reach American audiences with 1996 movie and failed completely.
It was a risky gamble to prioritize American audiences over British/European audiences.
Am I right in thinking it's not available on Disney plus in the UK?
@@garethjones341I just googled and apparently not. Seems a dumb decision! I’d have paid for a Disney+ subscription temporarily for a few months to watch it non live here in the UK. We don’t have a TV license as we don’t watch live TV (I watch maybe a handful of series a year only) so can’t watch it live or use iPlayer to watch it.
@@inquerion8867doctor who has been airing in the United States since the 70s.. and doctor who has a large fan base in America so there is no reason for why they shouldn't be able to watch doctor who
Who really cares about the live TV ratings its 2024
yea your right cash dont matter
To everyone who is saying Ncuti Gatwa told fans to leave, lets do some fact checking. Lets examine a few quotes in full. All when asked about the haters Ncuti has said "I feel like anyone that has a problem with someone who’s not a straight white man playing this character, you’re not really, truly a fan of the show. You’ve not been watching! Because the show is about regeneration, and the Doctor is an alien - why would they only choose to be this sort of person?" And responded with "Don’t watch. Turn off the TV. Go and touch grass, please, for God’s sake.” and also said "What are you going to do, tell the same stories? Have the same people fronting things for all of eternity? Representation and inclusivity and branching out… It enriches us all. How embarrassing. You people with your tiny mindsets - open a book, look out the window and then f*ck off.” He was addressing the haters, not fans. Ncuti also did a video for the Offical UA-cam channel saying how he appreaciated the fans. So yeah, Ncuti hasnt told fans to not watch, but if you felt like he was referring to you, the perhaps you need to look at yourself.
The figures has been going down since RTD left the first time. It’s going to take a miracle for them to go back to where they was.
Not really as Matt Smith's average figures were on a par with Tennant and some times higher.
Peoples need to calm down with airing viewing figures. Most poeples will watch it later at a time of their choice,for me i was working a lots of 12 hours shift non-stop, will watch it later this week.
Have to say, I was Willing give him a go....but he was wooden, there was no spark! Maybe he needs time to warm up BUT not a great start.
Maybe he needs more lube?
I will continue to only watch on bbc one … cause I live in Ireland and we don’t get iplayer
Everyone I know watched it on iPlayer because of work commitments etc.
If they have work commitments wouldn't it be more likely that they would watch it on Saturday night rather than in the early hours of Saturday morning given they would have to get up early for work?
@@user-hl1ex6py8lsome people work at 6:30pm on a Saturday
The overnight ratings were a lot lower than I thought they would be. I know a lot of people have made excuses for this like it being released on iPlayer at midnight Friday and the weather being nice and while I think that has factored into it I still think the ratings are so low it is a cause for concern. I guess we will know more when the consolidated ratings are released during the week. I just think overall interest in the show is on the wane.
I think what has happened is that many casual viewers gave up during the Chibnall era because they overall quality dropped and Whittaker didn't really resonate with many viewers. The return of David Tennent brought back some interest but it hasn't been a return to form for Russel T Davies thus far. While the show often has some sort of social messaging in the past its never been as overt as it has been over the last few episodes.
The low point for me is in a life threatening alien invasion a trans character lectures the Doctor about the correct use of pronouns and then goes on to insult him by saying a "its something a male presenting timelord wouldn't understand". I just find that kind of social messaging to be extremely crass. There is an obvious LBGTQ agenda going on in RTD's return which goes far beyond anything he did in his original run. Its almost like he wants to use the show as a vehicle to lecture at the audience. You have to remember this is a family show and a lot of families have socially conservative parents who wont want their children watching it now.
The live TV viewing figures mean nothing, people had 18 hours to watch it before it was on live TV and lets be honest live TV is pretty dead in this day and age I'm surprised they even got as high figures as that on live TV
As a whovian I liked both episodes but I can't say I enjoyed them very much - Ncuti and Millie are fab and hopefully there are some wonderful episodes ahead
Lol
Wanna watch the show? Dont bother mate. It's shit!
If ruby leaves I will definitely be out those doors to
They aren't really down - this does not include iPlayer and it was there for almost a whole day before it was on the BBC....
I was told not to watch....so I didnt
No need for viewing figures these days with streaming going on
Most people probably watched before broadcast.
I still think the show shouldnt have been released before broadcast. It ruins the whole element of people watching together
Agreed 100%
Yeah. I like everyone watching together
@@ogpandamonium I get a lot of people will watch at different times and via different methods but it would make sense for broadcast to be the priority.
lol, Dr Gay is failing & will get CANCELLED!!!
Eurovision was a live event which suits broadcast tv better most live streaming don't do well on streaming service because the still a lot of glitches in love event Eurovision and the world cup on streaming services .
I LOVED WATCHING 2 EPS AT 12! 😊
Also people are going to be outside considering the weather in the UK
I was
I remember when the show was so good I’d come inside from the good weather to watch it… the show has fallen
@@lukesmhudson I heard that in Britain watching Doctor Who was almost like a ritual. Whole families would go home, make some tea and watch it together.
@@inquerion8867 yeah I’m from Britain, where are you from? And yeah when I was growing up and out playing my dad would call me in to watch it. I can think of one time I missed an episode, it was “the girl in the fire place” (Ikr, of all the episodes to miss😅) cause of some Christingle service thing.
@@lukesmhudsonso good my guy people called most of capaldi and Matt Smith's run trash
It's bad. REAL BAD just cancel it
It will be down to ~1million by episode 5 and still dropping.
Soooooo. Will you delete this comment if it's higher than that?
And it will still be completely irrelevant! Doctor who debuted on a streaming service literally nobody at the BBC cares about the live viewing figures in 2024 they care about the streaming views that actually make money
The 18 hour thing doesn't mean anything. The online viewers aren't guaranteed to not be a repeat viewers on normal tv. Fanatics gonna fanatic. So you can't just put those numbers together and call it a day. And a first season episode showing that weak of a start is apocalyptic. Those numbers are never going to be any better for the season. When you have a break like this, the first episode back is the high watermark. And this is a very low mark to hit. Something else you should probably stop making guesses as to how things are going to run. You guys are usually not correct with your numbers, nor your guesses about what's going ot happen. Also , Doctor Who has already failed. The BBC cancelled it until Disney offered to bail it out as long as they could control it. That's a fail. They had to sell it off for it to survive. And no show survives telling it's fanbase to pound sand.
Any British TV show that gets americanised is doomed to failure. Franchises go to die at Disney. The Who writers used to service and respect the show. Now the show just services the writer's agenda, like many other franchises, unfortunately. What a pity!
The problem is that Britain is becoming americanised, as demonstrated by the increasingly common mispronunciation of Davies as "Dayveez", and the incorrect use of "canon" as an adjective, by the UK's younger generation. And that's just taking two examples relevant to the world of Doctor Who; there are many more.
Disney streams the show in America and provides funding. That is the end of their involvement no matter how much people keep crying that it's all become Disney.
@@SnowLily06 Disney admitted forcing changes in the Christmas specials, in order to make the Doctor appear on screen sooner. Would you call that involvement?
@cmdrvex "forcing" is definitely not what they admitted to. They showed a screening to an audience and gave the audience's feedback to Russel, which is their right as the people streaming it in America. The BBC also screened it to an audience in the UK and got feedback exactly the same. At the end of the day, Russel, the writer, decides whether the criticism is something he should ignore or take on board. And the American screening audience was right in the Christmas special. The doctor not appearing till 10 minutes in would've been awful.
@@cmdrvex It didn't affect the plot one iota. They just asked RTD to write a quick scene to introduce the Doctor earlier in the story.
the cope is strong with this one. the aniversary specials got dismal figures, the xmas xpecial got dismal rating. but these figures NOT being the lowest in history dosnt mean anything, right.
Not really, it’s just you lot just want this to fail for ideological reasons. The specials 7million viewing figures has never been dismal, in fact it’s on par with most 2008 viewing figures.
And with these episodes, why would most people wait for it live when they could just watch whenever they wanted during the day??
The fact that even bringing back Tennant for three episodes didn’t help with the ratings tells you all you need to know about the mess the show is in right now.
@@JustMe-om2dk then why was the Christmas Special watched by 7million, then 10.1million on the iPlayer?
Honestly I’m not surprised. I think RTD and to an extent Ncuti have burnt a notable portion of the goodwill by making highly provocative and combative statements regarding fans and the history of the show itself.
Without that goodwill many fans will tune out. And I think many have.
Funny, if the viewing figures had been amazing, I bet you all would be saying its because the show is amazing.
Your just sooo desperate to cling on to the hope this farce of a show, this insult to fans,this desecration of the memory of real Dr Who is anything other than pure garbage....
Been a fan since the 70's and its now pure offensive, vomit inducing garbage.
So leave.
That is a typical and common reply from new Dr Who fans, a narcistic childlike reply - no wonder they love the narcissistic child like show...@@mrdr0161
I live in the US. I stopped watching during Series 12. Heard David Tennant, Catherine Tate, and RTD would be returning and that there would be a new Doctor, so I caught myself up. Watched the 60th specials, saw The Church on Ruby Road, and saw the two most recent episodes when they came out on Disney+.
It is such a return to form and I can't wait until Boom comes out! The viewing figures are doing fine. There are just a lot fewer people watching on Cable nowadays.
New doctors always take a dip
Especially with anew crew of writers and doing new things
Like a musical number each episode
I’m a old time who watcher
I’m interested in where they are going here
I was expecting maestro to be a evil time lord
Elemental gods invading the universe is new
Celestial Toymaker, Gods of Ragnarok - not really. It’s just been done better by people other than Turdy Davies before.
I suppose if things get really dire they can always drag David Tennant back to the show yet one more time...
God no!
I don't know that I'm interested in his story at this point. He went off with Donna, and that's good enough.
For those that are wondering the article literally says Early launch viewing figures learn to read people
Do you actually like the episodes from the RTD2 era?
@@lukesmhudsonso what if I do you upset that people like RTD2
@@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wr that’s one way of saying yes I suppose. Not upset, just increasingly surprised at people’s tastes and what they consider good entertainment
@@lukesmhudson 💀🤡
@@lukesmhudson seeing the comments of people like you, do you think judging others pretentiously with the overrated "bad taste" move will make them feel degraded? Do you think that people will respect or listen to someone who cannot even point out actual issues and see other's taste for not agreeing with that bluntness as inferior?
I feel like the month long figures between iPlayer and Disney will be very up though
Space Babies was pretty bad, in a similar way to Arachnids in the UK, there are good things there, but overall, just doesn't work. The Devil's Chord felt like The Giggle Part 2. Overall, I think I liked it, but that Twist song at the end didn't work, for me at least. If it had been part of the episode proper or the resolution of the story, I think it could have worked better. But, after the Maestro has been defeated to have this big musical number doesn't really work, just takes me right out of the episode and makes it too silly.
I watched both episodes on iplayer as soon as they were released. I also watched them again when broadcast on BBC1. I enjoyed both episodes, but think The Devil's Chord was a stronger episode than Space Babies. I'm not one or those "fans" who complain about every single aspect of the program. If it entertains me, then that's all I want. I wander how the people that always spout negativity get through their lives living so miserably.
That's the neat part. They don't.
To those stressing,, nobody watching on BBC one anymore unless u over 70 years old
Mainly because they are only capable of making complete sh1t
Figured this would happen. Now the viewing figures really aren’t a reliable indicator for success (though certain people will use these numbers to lie to their audiences)
But the consistently lowering figures ARE indicative that people are tuning out of this garbage - what else do you think this means? 😂
Viewing figures are the most important thing there is for an entertainment show. This dumpster fire is going to crash and burn.
Yeah, believe what the BBC & Disney tells you, not the actual viewership data
@@fletcherhamilton3177 Yes, low viewing figures which only count for 1/3 of all viewing figures. Its clear that people have watched it through streaming, which offers way more pros than normal TV. Like UHD, pausing, catch up, binging, downloading, watching at a later date. The media landscape has changed, and normal TV viewing figures are becoming less relevant, as there are now more ways to watch.
@@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons not im this day and age
Tharries, you seem to be a very positive, gentlemanly and sincere person and obviously a very loyal fan of DW. From your posts and DW merchandise in your room it is obvious you fradom goes back a long time. My fandom did too but these two eoisodes imo are dreadful and I can't even pretend to off faux prasie for anything. I am happy to move on. I do ot want to watch this trash anymore including agends regradless of what they might be. Singing dance routines, the glibt of the wink -this is Disney or Marvel. It is not DW. In fact one commentatpr who loved the episode said it reminded him of when Marvel began putting out movis long ago. But I do hold concerncs for those who have invested heavily both emotionally, and financially in this show. I don't want to see such loyal fans lose what they once love for all life.
I didn't watch either epsiode only links on UA-cam and that certainly was enough for me to get the picture. They make The Twin Dilema look good. Often I get annoyed with grandiose statements by haters but for once I agree with them DW is dead. If it carries on as a new entity please can they change the name of the show as it pains viewers who have been around for more than fifty years.
To my two favourite reboot Doctors Smith and Capaldi please don't come back and tarnish your fantatstic Doctors' with this garbage. Your reputation is far more important than the dollars or fame. In fact, with Tennant one could argue his Doctor (10 or 14 or 14044) has had his Doctor's liking massively collapse in on him.
What we got was a show RTD and Chibanll and Gatwa and the BBC/Disney box tickers wanted. Shame I remember when the fans mattered and were even loved for their appreciation and loyalty. These days the bigwigs couldn't give fandom or even regular viewers the light of day. Disgraceful.
Viewing figures really aren’t important.
They are the most important thing about a show.
@@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons not to the viewers
@@PatrickF.Fitzsimmons not in this day and age lol
@@anotheronebitesthedust-fs6wryeah somehow i feel he just didnt even watch the video lol
@ Patrick More people watch on streaming . The days of any programme getting big live audience are long gone.
I have to say, I strongly suspect that viewing figures will drop further if they keep doing musical numbers.
I liked TDC a lot until that point. I really, really hope RTD isn't actually going a bit mad like it can sometimes seem he is, and that he knows that actually, whilst I imagine it's quite fun of you like that kind of thing, it absolutely is not what people watch DW for, and whilst I do want to stress that doing new and unexpected things is GOOD and I want the show to keep trying stuff, there are definitely some ways in which it needs to give audiences what they expect and want, and I am yet to speak to ANYONE who actually liked the musical number (even my wife, who does like musicals, hated the addition of the musical number at the end of TDC).
100 failure
Disney has fucked up star wars,Indians Jones a d husging b these 2 episodes yjey are looking to go the dame to doctor who
Everyone was out touching grass for some reason.
This is why they put episode 1 and 2 (never ever done before) on iPlayer. They knew their ratings were over for this show which is in part due to the dying BBC. I have to say respectfully this is not the show I once knew and once thoroughly enjoyed. Now if you like the show as is good for you and all who enjoy it. The show as it is now is definitely not for me. I’ve given it chance after chance and it’s simply no longer something I enjoy. I also feel it’s worth mentioning that no matter who you are everyone is entitled to their own taste and opinions and should never feel threatened or be accused simply because two opinions don’t line up. Still love listening to the theme tune which is timeless stuff and the episodes I grew up with and enjoyed I am very grateful for. I wish everyone still aboard the Tardis new and old the best of luck. But this is unequivocally where I get off.
Wishing you the very best of luck.
But obviously repetitive bigoted comments deserved to be responded
Doctot who is a failure
Appeal to a minority ,anoy the majority 😊writing was very poor 😊
Viewing figures mean nothing today
They mean everything all the time.
They mean everything, actually.
*Live* viewing figures
@@whereami2477 Usually when live viewing figures decrease, others (like 7 days since release) decrease too. Check viewership numbers from previous Seasons.
I think you'll find that they do.
Just waiting for the usual suspects to start making excuses...
Excuse? Do they need to make excuse for something obviously not in their control?