Rebel Wisdom, the Final Chapter
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2022
- Big announcement.
The Rebel Wisdom project is coming to an end, hoping to go out with a bang in November, with a plan to pollinate as many projects and spread the ideas and practices as widely as possible before then. Full outline in this video, and more details in the accompanying Substack newsletter: rebelwisdom.substack.com/p/re...
Our last event will be a wrapup in London with some of our favourite guests including Daniel Schmachtenberger and Ayishat Akanbi, with many more to come - book here: buytickets.at/rebelwisdom/718672
We will be hosting a live online event for our viewers to answer any questions and hear any ideas on 6th July, check out the details and register for this via the Substack newsletter.
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I haven’t even watched this video yet but I would like to comment before viewing it. David you have had a massive impact on my life. I was a complete scumbag piece of shit, and while I’m still definitely struggling to be a, somewhat not so bad human, your channel has changed me a lot as a person. Looking inward and noticing my personal biases and scumbag tendencies has helped a lot. You have also lead me to John Vervake too. Thank you very much. You have been a massively influential person in my life and you have zero clue who I am 😂😂. The Internet is wild like that. Thanks for everything my brother. Peace
It's bittersweet for sure. Bitter because we'll miss Rebel Wisdom, but sweet because your decision-making process that led to this decision is exactly why we love you in the first place.
Personally I don’t like to see this ending . This channel was my main point of contact with the deepest questions I’ve heard about and deepest and thoughtful answers as well.
Edgar, if you are a reader there are many speakers here who offer deeper insights in their writing. I humbly suggest tackling Iain McGilchrist’s brilliant new work. The Matter With Things.
@@midi510 actually you have a good point. Particularly if Edgar takes some enjoyment from reading a little about history…yes, The Master and his Emissary is a good starting point
Everything has a beginning, a middle and an end - knowing when to close the door and walk away, with grace, is so honourable x
New beginnings - good luck x
i joined RW because i saw that you two were self reflective and intellectually honest, especially the IDW audience capture. Wow ...I'm not surprise you are moving on based on your sensemaking the next. congratulations.
This channel has been hugely important to me in its first three years and I sincerely want to thank David and Alexander for all of their efforts and good work. Then, gradually, for me, the emphasis seemed to lie too much on "personal development" and sometimes a (to me) too high degree of abstraction on "the meta-perspective of the conversations we have". Then Covid-19 hit in and so did the war on truth and truth seeking. Here you guys sort of lost me. To me, Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying then took over the genuine search and tough struggle for truth and would say: they may eventually turn out the true wise rebels we needed, though we cannot yet be sure.
Also UnHerd and Triggernometry increasingly grew into very relevant channels for our days. Nevertheless I feel gratitude for the beautiful video's you have made in the first couple of years, however sad I feel as well that since 2021 it seemed less about truth seeking than what I was looking for. David then too reactively and easily dismissing Mattias Desmet's (professor of clinical psychology at Ghent university) analysis of possible mass formation and mass psychology in our times (without correcting that, for as far as I know (please correct me if I am wrong)) sort of seemed to mark the end of the conversation on this channel...
The pall of legacy media, corporate thinking, buzz words bereft of meaning and mealy mouth apologetics would inevitably lead one way. It has always been obvious who the company men are, rebel $wisdom$ indeed.
I’ve deeply enjoyed rebel wisdom over the years. Thank you for all of your hard work. I look forward to seeing what each of you does in the future!
Thank you for everything you’ve brought forward the past few years. I want to tell you that it was through your work that I found Vervaeke which has lead to a cascade that’s pulling me on a path towards a phD in Neurophenomenology. Actually true! Stuck in covid lockdowns, you guys shon bright lights for me.
So much gratitude! 🙏🏽❤️🙏🏽❤️
I'll miss the content but I agree the time is right to grow beyond antithetical heterodox perspectives and move towards synthesis. Props for noticing that the time has come to let go of the familiar and being prepared leap into the liminal unknown once more! Good luck guys!
Put some more intellectual buzzwords into your comment, it will make you sound more geniuser. 😂
@@huasirr You are right, thanks for the advice. It was very kind of you to take the time to offer me feedback.
@@multiphilification you are more than welcome. I am here to help. 😉
Wow, I feel so privileged to have witnessed this. Thank you folks for making it a reality and creating this community. I've been inspired to implement my own projects well after learning from your example.
The best and most mature, wise decision to make. Your reasoning is very cool. Thank you for so much and can't wait to see what comes out of this.
Say it isn't so! A wonderful journey. Thank you for all your efforts.You were an oasis in the desert of the Matrix. The best of luck to you both and your team as you start your new journeys. You will be missed. Profoundly.
THANK YOU for all the thoughprovoking, interesting, sometimes entertaining work you (and others with Rebel Wisdom) produced, David. I found Daniel Schmachtenberger because of that, and that made me aware of Nate Hagens and the Great Simplification, and now I'm reading books by Duane Elgin, Wilber, etc. Rebel Wisdom has been a highly appreciated catalyst for my own efforts in integral or systems thinking. :-)
I am so incredibly grateful for your work and I wouldn’t be the same if I hadn’t come across this channel. Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks David, Alexander, team! You have inspired me a lot over the years. Courageous to move on at the peak. Will follow your paths onwards. Huge gratitude ❤️
I have to say Rebel Wisdom was a definite introduction for me in terms of the cultural moment and in particular Jordan Petersons and the IDWs take on where we are and where we might be going.
I was initially hooked on the content and lapped up JP....DM.....JGH......JV.......BW.........JW........KWs........thoughts and Meta perceptions and conceptions on evolution, the current moment and where it might all be going.
I was fully engaged in the hegelian, jungian, integral, synthesis way of thinking and being in the world, and spoke from this place of security and suredness that this viewpoint was the one that was needed and should be followed for our times................but.............Rebel Wisdom never fully explored and expanded on the ways of thinking that Tyson Yunkaporta brought with his Sand Talk. This could have lead on to talks with Bayo Akomolafe, Timothy Morton, Bracha Ettinger, Erin Manning, Karen Barad, Brian Massumi to name but a few that never got mentioned.
I get the feeling that these thinkers would have been too challenging to the developmental, integral, meta paradigm of RW, yet these thinkers are the very ones that will need to be engaged with if we are to be fully authentic and hold integrity within this unfolding moment in the culture. I hope that your seed dispersal will reach into the corners of these thinkers in the coming years.
Go well David and Alex.
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Just to follow on from Carlos's point the We and I sñace
I've enjoyed Rebel Wisdom immensely! Thanks and good luck in all future endeavors.
Thanks guys, enjoyed many of your interviews and - can I say this?- I saw you loosening, growing in many ways along the road! Exciting plans, I definitely would like to keep you on my radar! All the best.....
I have deeply appreciated being part of this community you've created, attending and then weaving the conversations back into my own sphere of influence. Blessings on your new ventures. I concur that I would like to see more of what John Vervaeke is bringing somehow made more accessible. When I was learning communication, particularly oral communication, I was taught to tailor my speech to the grade 9 level. I realize that wouldn't be appropriate for John, but if there was some way to translate academic speech then perhaps this could reach beyond this corner of the internet. I'll be here, looking for more.😍💝💫
I discovered Rebel Wisdom with the Glitch in the Matrix and was a member of the first SM101 course. Thank You and Best Wishes.
Translation: we're hopelessly orthodox left-wingers and we've found that our truly heterodox audience and colleagues are no longer responding to this and we are incapable of dealing with their logical arguments. 😑
Thank you. Those words are not sufficient, yet I'm sure we all mean it deeply. You are both in fact true leaders. Rebel Wisdom of course will live on in the present forever, in your 'diaspora', which was always happening already. But RW is also 'historically' now important. I'm glad there will be some place for others to find the incredible content you've created thus far, and I feel it needs to be there to stand for itself. You are 'creators' of so much, as well as curators. I look forward to following your futures and thank you both so much. You've done serious good in the world, for the world.
I like the idea of RW becoming a piece of history. A sort of Rennaisance moment.
All good things must come to an end and evolve into something new. Gee David, Alex et al you have taken us on an incredible intellectual, spiritual journey. A big THANK YOU!
Just listened, quite inspired by your bold and defined closing of a project and how you acknowledged and honoured the natural life cycle of a creative project. It's so easy to run creative projects into the ground and deplete all the nectar that made it special in the first place. Takes bravery to let go and step into the unknown. Excited to see where your energy goes next and what blossoms. I'm in!
Good luck on your new endeavors of rebooting Girls Gone Wild.
We're all more rebellious and wiser thanks to you.
Thank you for creating Rebel Wisdom. I will forever appreciate how this community have opened my mind.
Thanks a lot David and Alexander❤RW and its amazing guests and members have for sure kindled a bright light in the "gloomy mist" over the last years.
Brilliant, Bold, Brave people you are. Thanks for the great work, looking foward what's comming.
thankyou. your faces will arise in consciousness regardless of the online presence. much love.
What a great group, you are all my type of people, I wish I could have met you guys and participated other than watching, thanks again.
Well done RW for great and varied content. IDW gold star award from me! Seedbed of positive thought for all of us. Thanks.
Thanks for all the great content gents. It’s been a pleasure.
I have been watching RW since 2019 as a place to go to, to stress test my own ideas; to stay abreast with the sensemaking happening in the global north even as the challenges of the Global South impact my day-to-day. What is different and what's the same. A big thank you from Port Elizabeth, RSA.
This is one of the channels that make UA-cam worthwhile. Nothing ever ends though, it just changes so this is not goodbye but to be continued.
Thank you David and Alex for helping us to make sense of it all! Love you both, and look forward to what emerges next.
"He who cannot throw away a treasure in need...is in fetters". (Aragorn to Pippin at Isengard) well done guys. You managed to drop your creation in due time instead of letting it become poisonous.
I have listened to hours of your interviews. They have been fantastic! Really hope that you keep going maybe in a new form.
A big thank you...you helped me cope with the shock of seeing my culture going of the rails and your programmes gave me hope...knowing there were people out there so dedicated to trying to get us back on track. The plans you presented sound fantastic. With deep gratitude always...wishing you courage and grace.
Thank you both so much for having created this space. I want to echo & amplify what many others have said here and on the call, this channel has been such an incredible resource and has been very important to me. I’m sad to see it come to an end but I can’t see it going any other way. I have tremendous respect for the both of you to make this decision and I’m excited to see what’s next ❤️
Just been reading the comments here and wondering if you will read them all. I hope so. When I heard the news I felt quite sad and even a little grief around the coming to the end of this chapter. It does feel like big shifts are here so it's also no surprise.. As many people have shared here, I have also been changed by your channel and the people who you have introduced to me here. It really took my life in a new direction and opened doors: it exposed me to so many new ideas and incredible thinkers. It's been just awesome. So deep and profound. Thank you, thank you for your contribution and keeping us all feeling at least a little bit sane whilst the world falls apart. You guys rock. And what's to come sounds awesome..... ❤
The "brand" may be ending but it's influence will not. Best of luck with future projects.
Thank you so much Rebel Wisdom for all that you have done. You kept me sane through the last two years and I have learned so very much from the diverse and fascinating topics covered. You have truly inspired my thinking and I am sure many have gained from the wisdom shared on this platform. Much gratitude to your integrity and service to truth and life.
Your channel has been so important, and I hope the channel stays up, because there are important insights which will resonate for years to come.
To all the contributors at Rebel Wisdom, I just want to say that I can`t think of a neologism abundant enough to express my gratitude to you guys who over the years have helped me to infuse my emergent conversations with new paradigms and complexity theory that have impressed my dead player friends no end.
To be perfectly authentic, I must admit that the finality of it all has sent me into a meta crisis about my meta model. I am hoping that I can survive this meaning crisis, and that through coherent exaptation I can morph it into an experience of anti-fragility. But frankly, right now,I feel like I have a hole in my holon . I feel like my psychotechnologies have just crashed and my sense-making faculty is so unresilient that I don`t think I could hold the space for an epistemology session in a brewery.
I fear that without the intentional liminal communitas embodied by RW I may become caught up in a Gated Institution Narrative (GIN) and I wonder whether I should hit the RUM (Rebel Unknowingness Meme) instead.
Nevertheless I am confident that by binge-watching my old IDW, RW and Jargon Peterson vids I will be able to up my level of sovereignty and improve my coinage game thus eventually becoming a live player in game BS.
Thanks.
The sacred feminine has been waiting for this glorious moment. Thank you for your containment. Now let's get to work...together. Sacred masculine and feminine
Rebel Wisdom has been pivotal in bringing the best minds we have to learn from together and introducing important new ideas. Best of luck, and Look forward to what comes next as well as contributing in my own sphere too.
Your material, particularly the Integral ideas, moved me from panicky and reactionary to embracing the teal, looking to understand everyone's perspective and being more patient and kind in conversations. It's been great to have a fellowship in which to feel not alone. Thank you!
Thank you
David and Ali wish u all the best..Rebel wisdom was aways my first go to channel..always because of content and quality..I've done some of the courses and have incorporated some of the practices into my daily life..so u have had an impact..
I do wonder if BBC or Netflix are still the mainstream or if they are even institutions u would want to make programmes for? The breakout rooms and Q and A defo feels like a better format rather than a one off programme
Dave when u do meet Daniel please ask him where AI is at..it is a worry..lol
Once again Thanks lads all the best 👍
On to new pastures. It's been a ride. While I can't predict how things will shake out, my gut agrees that you would have got evermore stuck, by not taking the significant jump.
You two are extraordinary people and I can’t wait to follow and support your work in the future!
Saddened to hear the closing of one chapter and thrilled to hear about the emergence of another. Very difficult to find such honest content. Best of luck, we've only just begun.
This is so smart and feels so right! Good luck guys much love
I could sense this coming as well. I’m glad to hear about all the upcoming events & look forward to future content.
Thank you David and Alex for introducing me to your many amazing guests and content since 2018. I look forward to your new content in your next journey. Also, I welcome you guys to Nairobi, Kenya. Hit me up.
Fair play. Totally agree on the 'Rebel' aspect. I've been following the conversation on the channel for a while and appreciate all you've done to provide the platform and perspective to make that happen. I'm on the same page in my own life and the projects I'm working on. Exciting times. Great to have your grounding and I look forward to future fun x see you at the London meet :D x
Amazing work, thank you x
Thankyou for the hard work that I've been enriched by.
Thank you David and crew for all your effort
Oh wow. You guys have been one of the best channels on UA-cam. Sad to see you go but love your vision and optimism.
Pass the torch into another??? So sad to see you guys are leaving. Rebel Wisdom has been an amazing community.
yea the word needs more reasonable spaces for conversation.
You folks saved mybrain... Amgounstmany otgers,... And i havenot watched all you did... However what i did watch. Saved and recovered some. Important parts of myself. Tha ks you.
Many thanks Guys
Kudos to you guys.
Sometimes we have to sit in our own brew until something grows on it.
why do good things end so soon? whatever it is, sirs/madams, you have my utmost respect! if i ever meet you two in public i will shout out loud - here we see two champs!
companies and brands, like people, eventually die, and there’s a grace, logic, and beauty to that.
Many thanks for what you have done over the years.
Very much looking forward to what you do next. It really is time I think to draw people together; there is a lot of common ground between different initiatives.
The gender conversation is about identity - and that leads to a discussion about how our relationships are central. (My, admittedly clumsy, way of saying this is 'we not only have relationships, we are our relationships.)
A simple presentation of John Vervaeke's stuff would be great. Why he hasn't written a popular book I don't know.
This is sad. But it also seems somehow right. There's something strangely beautiful about organisations reaching a natural end, like organisms do.
I could tell for a while that David and Alexander were heading in different directions (of traditional journalism and psychedelic research respectively). Not in a bad way. That synthesis between their two passions created interesting content for this channel. But in order for them to pursue those callings, it's quite sensible to wrap up this channel, rather than just let it languish.
To say the content is great is to say nothing. The content is a product of it's time but it may be is ahead of it's time because it is eternal and it's value will increase as time passes as long as humanity exists and it could even be instrumental and contribute to sustainability of it's existence. 😅
Better too early than too late. Well done mate!
Inspiring stuff
Dang, I just signed up
David, I challenge you to attend the Traditional Latin Mass for two months. Your life will be transformed. Ne timeas.
11min. Yes you have opened a track and people will find it and follow it to this point, and then see which fork they take from here.
wow. good luck.
This post DMT spiritual nihilism sounds like the standard "dark night of the soul" response
GL and TY
Is rebel wisdom taking down the channel or are they still leaving it up even after they stop making videos ? Also just want to say how much I’ve appreciated this Channel, thankyou rebel wisdom.
Good question. I only found this channel very recently
Go on David! It's needed. Most still parrot the same lines on Brexit (both sides) but don't understand why it happened. The success of globalisation resulted in its downfall. And perhaps if we managed to get under the situation properly we wouldn't be in this time of chaos.
I've kind of let my meeting attendance lapse. I'm sort of sad I've done that. A combination of depression and life events have pulled my attention in other directions.
Relating to your goal of reaching a broader church/Joe Bloggs rather than usual suspects/workshop junkies, I reckon the language you currently use could be a big big barrier. I'd love to help you with this, David. Plain language and making things accessible is my thing.
Couldn't imagine anything more transformative on a collective level than if Peterson was to tell the story of how in the past two years using the language of virtue and the higher moral ground he chose to break all his major principles just in order to test us and see whether we would stop him.
When do we get a convo between John V. and Daniel S. ?! And I'd still like to see a convo between John and Jamie W. !
Anyway, thank you for your work!
Iv Been along for the ride the whole way and some of the work has been fundamental in my journey .of all the podcasts I used to listen to it was only Rebel Wisdom I came to trust for well balanced , well thought out content with thinkers that opened my mind. Real , genuine pioneers. That being said I think this is a real classy move , at some point along the way I too sensed the rich seam had dried up, I came back every upload due to a loyalty built up fromthe older work and the content (whilst still interesting) started to have a less immediate affect on my life and my ability to prosper.
I sensed it when it felt like every podcaster was saying the same thing over and over again . I think it’s noticeable that in the general zeitgeist there is only so many ideas floating about. I will never forget the valuable lesson when the rebel narrative inverted during covid and the heterodox space got caught with its pants down in the very same traps it accused the mainstream of . “We thought we could change the world with long form podcasting” , yes we did . I did. I preached it .
I too had to turn to wisdom and deeper questions in private living them out in my own life away from endlessly proliferating ideas. Some rubber , had to start touching the road .
Ecclesiastes 12 12-14
And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.“
Peace out everyone .
Dave, in retrospect has your support of mandatary vaccination changed? Do you still believe that any criticism of the vax programme should be censored as you stated during your Trigonometry interview?
Will the videos stay on UA-cam?
11:30 Rebel wisdom clips channel reposting snippets of old content with links to full videos
What do you find effective pollination look like, is media the more effective “stream”, online courses, movies, documentaries, blogs.
I feel we are working “behind” walls of intellectual scrambling for the mainstream, whom I am involved with, and I find it extremely difficult to confer these ideas with lower tier consciousness…
What have you found the most effective in bringing AND supporting these ideas to the base line of common culture?
Thank you
You are going to keep up the content are you not? I hope so. It is so vital to so very many. Congratulations on your new endeavors. However, I am feeling a bit in a panic as I am hoping to God that all the wisdom in your programs not be lost and still remain accessible.
Embody that.
As a less frequent listener to RW than many, I have become more confused about what RW is doing. It seems to have morphed into a philosophical ideology which you call sensemaking which may be interesting but what is its place in critical thought?
"The link between things, and the link between people, being more important than the disparate units"
Hmmf. The links are no more or less important than the parts that are linked, the collectives created by the links, or the information exchange that the links facilitate. Why is it that there has to be one thing that is most important?
Calling it quits now with the world in the midst of a major shitstorm? Neither rebellious or wise.
If you were to do any epilogue content, hosting documentaries on the other spore projects as they develop could be a perfect fit, continuous with the RW format but with integrity to the fact that RW will be over.
❤️❤️❤️
I've never heard of these people he wants to interview
It's been a long DON QUIXOTE journey for you guys, yea?...... Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, UFOs, and now Rebel Wisdom, hmm?... "STUCK" I agree, yea? GOOD LUCK on your next projects... hopefully, I'll see you guys on the other side, yea? "EVERY WISH FULFILLED" E.T.