Thanks for reporting that. As a Finn, I'd hate to have these companies provide anything but animal safe services. But also just as a reality: any dog here gets ice and rocks between their paws, or even glass in the summer. Not excusing anything. Just saying that any owner needs to be interested and take care of the harm their dog is suffering. Neglect is not acceptable I think even under Finnish law.
Also, as a Finn, I know exactly where you are. I used to run the black slopes, because nothing else was challenging enough. One never tires off coming down these World Cup slopes.
Also Saariselkä is a bit further but honestly also incredibly beautifull ski resort! It's also very populair on Social Media for the frosted cable lift and stunning views! The trees covered in snow are not all winter there!
I don't know why but im obsessed by these travel vlogs in Lapland. You did very well, liked a lot! Dogs do not have poor living conditions in Lapland, no way girl! They are happy and they have purpose. These dogs do not like to live inside. Finns are highly respectable towards animals, if there really was some kind of beating, that's police matter in Finland and unacceptable. You can ask yourself, are dog living in concrete cities more happy? You were in Sami owned land, where they have traditionally used dogs for centuries. I do appreciate you and your sightings, but I really think it is done ethically. Otherwise these people would not be in business very long. And again. Really really loved your vlog!
My cousin lives in ivalo and I think these people went to the sadly know huskyfarm that actually does have bad conditions. Every local people knows about it and the company has been in trouble about it, they know their reputation but still run the farm
Unfortunately it was too warm and not enough snow at the time u were in Levi…. When theres enough snow the ”instagram spot” is the whole skiing resort :) Loved ur video!!! Greetings from a Finn
Wonderful video!!!! The filming is terrific! The cottage igloo resort looks like a lot of fun. Glad they provided "Butt Towels" in Finland.Thank you for sharing this wonderful trip!!! Love from Vermont
Thank you Tim and Allison for filming your adventures. I know that can’t be easy. You make me feel like I’m there with you, and that’s pretty darn special. I can’t wait to see what’s next on the bucket list.
You know, northern MN was called little Finland. My great grandfather and grandmother lived in Suomi right off Graves Lake. It was called Graves Lake because of a bunch of horses who sank in the lake many many decades ago. Also Suomi means Finland in Fin. There's also a place called Finland MN, and it is super like Finland, and beautiful. Just so you know, you can get a similar feeling, but without having to deal with alot of the other stuff.🤷🙄😂🎉😘
Great video 👍 so much better than others I have seen quick question though where did you stay in Levi we are currently looking at hotels for March and that looked very central.
Didn’t know you guys were from Michigan. I’ve skied Boyne Mountain and Crystal Mountain quite a bit. I’m a full-blooded Finn. My mother was born there.
I am sad to see your experience at Aurora Village was less than anticipated. I am surprised to learn of the COVID dining rule, as when I was there in October, the Delta variant was surging, but there were no restrictions. The night prior to. "reindeer night," they went around to all the guests to review the next nights menu, and asked if there were any objections to reindeer, or if an alternative was preferred. I guess since you arrived on the same night, there was no alternative. Sounds like timing wasn't optimal, but you made the most of it.
Love the video, showing the everyday scenes. We live in Lapland, near Kittilä but lots for us is just daily regular views. Made me think more to watch when we drive around.You picked in my opinion the best locations for a short stay. And thank you for wearing masks and helping us protect everybody and the tourisme industry.
December to March u find 95% of those snowy trees. U just had bad luck a bit. Mostly those trees are covered that kind of snow most of the winter. I meand top of the resort and bottom of the hill.
I live in Southern Finland and I've never been on a husky ride in Lapland - it has always seemed a bit cagey, as you said it's a new thing over here. I feel bad for you guys to come across a bad actor. I hope your stay in Finland was nice, even though you didn't have too good weather, there was the stupid COVID restrictions and the husky ride was bad.
I just love your channel and this episode is just awesome from my home coutry. I have done also couple travel vlogs from Finland. Just started my channel. You guys inspire me!
please do not judge all husky farms because of one bad experience. most of them treat the dogs amazingly well and provide them with activities they were bred to do without abusing them at all it's obvious that beating the dogs is wrong but them living outside is not poor living conditions, that's just how working dogs prefer to live. they are not pets after all seems to me that you just managed to book the safari from one of the sketchy companies that are bound to appear once something gets popular enough
As a born and bred Laplander I appreciate you giving a clear view of what husky turism can be at worst. It indeed is not a traditinal form of transport and many operators are not as ethical to the animals as we like to think they are. They are however regulated and treating the animals bad will result in consequenses If reported. A notice first, but more severe outcomes for the entreprneur later. My home region is on tourist ski resort with at least 5 or 6 husky operators. Of those I would only use services of two of those companies as they are very transparent of their process.
Also having skied those slopes all my Life I just felt so bad cause I knew you couldn't find them as the other trees were so bare. Most tykky (The thick snow coverage on the trees) would bengone. Also I think Sanni Oksanen filmed many of those in Ruka resort.
Tim and Fin , This was an epic adventure that Harriet and I totally enjoyed. Beautifully video , Great editing as always guys. Did you spend any time in Helsinki, it's a big university city. Sending you lots of love. 💖💖 Jim and Harriet. Richmond, Va.
Hi, I am from Southern Finland and I got very confused. If I understand you correctly, you saw injured dogs and beating? It sound like a made up story I must say because Finland is generally considered extremely good place for animals compared to other countries. Finland has strict animal laws and it's a POLICE CASE if there is animal abuse. Did you report this to the authorities? Also this type of animal abuse would go to the nation wide news immedietely. I have newer heard that here someone would openly beat their animals and get away with it. I think you have made some sort of mistake here. Maybe the owner didn't notice the dogs paw. Maybe for you it looked like beating but was not. Also I can quarantee that those facilities for the dogs are leagal because they would otherwise not have permit to do business. AVI has probably checked the facilities that they are good. And did you talk with the dog owner about this? He/she could probably explain.
I've lived here for half a year now in Rovaniemi, Finland and can absolutely say that this is not a made up story... I'm sorry to say this but my guide friends that work with huskies even told me stories much worse... And they've been living here in the northof Finland all their lives. I've personally been to a husky farm that the locals here reccomended and didn't doubt a second that they were not happy and well cared for. I've grown up with dogs and my mom is a dog trainer. I did not see cold, injured dogs that flinched at human contact at any time at that farm and had no doubt that they were taken care of very well. I agree this is not what I saw in Tim & Finn's video on it. That you haven't seen it yourself doesn't mean it isn't happening... sadly... because I wish it wasn't. But as someone working in tourism... I can't say that this doesn't happen more often here in the north of Finland.
Sori kun vastaan tälleen kaks vuotta jäljessä mutta siis serkku asuu ivalossa ja luulen et noi oli just siinä surullisen kuuluisalla koirafarmilla joss on oikeesti hirveet olot, kaikki paikalliset tietää siitä ja se yritys on ollu vaikeuksissa ja tietää maineensa mutta silti ne vaan jatkaa pyörittämistä tänäkin päivänä🥲
Hey! I wan't to comment on the dog sledding part. I definitely feel that such an experience should be reported to local police for dog safety, animal abuse is a big crime. I would also like to think that not every husky farm treats dogs badly; if you decide to keep a husky farm in a land where you have free education and opportunities to become anything you want, one would have to assume you're quite a animal lover to do such a low paying(?) seasonal job. And with this conclusion I would like to say that there should definitely be husky rides that are much more ethical. Huskies are work dogs, who love running so the work itself is good for them (assuming they get rest). So the possible problems arise in how the dogs are treated when not working. To what I have seen in Lapland videos, the huskies usually live in like 10m^2 cages, where they have some space to move but the actual daily running comes from the rides. Assuming they are fed well and not abused, I would consider husky rides ethical on this basis. Because in addition to pulling sleds, huskies are also built for living outside. The main problem I see here is the 10m^2 cage, which imo could be like 100m^2 cage for better living standards. I guess my point is that dog sledding can in general be unethical, if the dogs are treated unethically, but it doesn't have to be and there should also be good companies that do this ethically. I would also argue that most dog farms love their dogs and treat them accordingly and that these who treat their dogs badly should be held responsible. So as a general note for people who are going dog sledding in future, it would be advised to do some research about the place and on the other hand, if during your research (or your experience) you find someone who treats the dogs badly, they should be reported to police (at least in Finland, where the police can be well trusted (the least corrupt nation according to Transparency International)) If you managed to read this, please give me a comment to keep the conversation going :) Animal abuse is criminal offence in Finland, with possible sentence of prison time: (search for "animal" (ctrl+f or cmd+f)) www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/1889/en18890039_20150766.pdf Some additional sources: www.nomadasaurus.com/is-dog-sledding-cruel/ www.responsibletravel.com/holidays/dog-sledding/travel-guide/ethical-husky-safaris-and-husky-welfare (This is from the industry but anyways) www.barbarassimplelife.com/do-huskies-like-pullings-sleds/ crueltyfreesoul.com/is-husky-sledding-cruel/
Ah ha ha - Fin and the broom! And the food descriptions! I think you should include your food more - especially with the gluten-free thing. We aim for wheat-free and I could be a semi-closet vegetarian (except the bacon part).
Haha...they are probably happy Reindeer (until that fateful day they are told, you're dinner for these fine Americans) :o( But...as you say, when in Rome...it'd be a bit tricky to dig in, tho. However, we are like y'all...after seeing The Last Pig, and other documentaries, no more piggie for us. No nadda cow too. Ugh...poor sled puppies. Anyway...enjoyed your trip into the brrrrr...cold. Very interesting to see a place I probably will never visit.
There are a few tourist husky farms in Finland that have more dogs then they can handle, no running water et cetera. And the finish goverment does nothing.
I really like you two. You learn and teach so many about the cruelty of animals that can come with tourism. Thank you for informing people. I'm a huge foody but tooootally understand the awkwardness of filming lol. However, I love seeing different snacks and foods from stores too. Thank you for all your content. 😘
That is why most forms of animal tourism, including dolphin tours, dog sledding, etc., is exploitative to animals. Any tourism dollars that go to companies like that further them allowing to treat animals like crap. There are good ways to partake in animal tourism such as helping out at animal shelters, animal sanctuaries, etc. Giving those shelters and sanctuaries the money that one would spend at something like a dog sled tour is a much better use of that money. I applaud you for realizing that the company wasn't practicing good ethics towards the animals and showing that on the internet and using your voices for good. I also applaud the step towards vegetarianism /veganism. If you think the exploitative nature of dog tours, etc. is horrible; factory farming is that times a million. Most humans will put money ahead of animal welfare in situations like that. and by tourist spending money there, making specific trips there for the animal tourism gives more and more people the idea that companies like that are good whilst they are not.
While I agree with using captive wild animals as a form of human entertainment is bad, exploitative, et cetera, I don' really see the maltreatment in this case (although I haven't yet gotten to the sledding part of this video). As a species dogs are domesticated wolves that due ancient breeding have a strong bond with humans. The difference between dogs as a pet and these kind of "working" dogs is in my opinion not that significant. Also as I'm from Finland I might have slightly based idea of how this kind of business is conducted here versus the other parts of the world. I'm pretty sure that there's been cases of mistreatment here as well, but in dare to say that in general the sledding dogs are doing fine. edit: through a quick google search I found one article from 2018 where 17 dogs were very badly maltreated: www.kaleva.fi/poliisi-tutkii-elainsuojelurikosta-kiimingissa-nal/1852224 pretty sure that google translate gives an somewhat accurate translation but in a nutshell the dogs were seized and treated but two of the dogs had to be put down due their condition. edit #2: basically the beatings and poor living conditions should be reported to the police, but I'm not the one doing it cause im a coward (and I'm basing this information on a UA-cam video)
Hi Tim and Fin My boyfriend and I watch you guys and we both felt so bad about your Dog sled experience! We live in Alaska so we really enjoy all your videos! The one where you guys went dog sledding was so awful ! The people up here that do dog sledding and take people out . They treat their dog very good! The dogs eat first sleep and rest in straw. If the dogs have sores or aren’t feeling well they don’t take them out on runs. The dogs get constant medical care ! Right now as I am writing this 3/09/22 the Iditarod sled dog race is happening. If a musher doesn’t take good care of his dogs he could die, so their well being is number one ! I got very up seeing a swing the video how the man hit the dog ! That is not tolerated up here! I am so sorry you had that horrible experience! That behavior is sickening! Truly! I just wanted you to know it is not the norm! He should have been fired ! The dogs should have had straw to test in and no dog should be ran with bleeding paws . The very least it should have been treated Ed and carried back in the sled ! Anyway thanks for letting me vent this out it was quite upsetting to see that man treat the dog so badly!
Hi @Ilachavez3116! My husband and I are BIG fans of Tim and Fin! We love watching their videos and they inspired us to start travel vlogging. We just got back from a trip to Alaska in August and vlogged our time there. We did a dog sled experience at Knik glacier. It was absolutely amazing! Our musher was training for the Iditarod for this year. Dogs were definitely treated well. Hope you will check us out!
That whole "igloo-resort" place looks like something I as a Finn wouldn't visit. Looked really cheap. There are some real glass igloo resorts in Lapland (and lower Finland too) so I feel bad you didn't experience those but just a cottage with big windows.. Shame. And just like there are glass igloo resorts, there are also better dog sledge companies which actually care about their animals. Doesn't give a pretty picture, but it's good to see the other side too.
About the reindeer: Reindeer farms hold the reindeer during winter to help them get enough food in the harsh winter! The Reindeer come themselves to the farm when the winter is coming. Almost all of the reindeer get released in the wild after winter except for some racing reindeer that are kept in huge fences. The population is controlled. This means that every year an amount of reindeer have to be 'put down' (couldn't find another proper word) to keep the total population under a certain number to protect nature. Otherwise they are too big in numbers at the cost of the wilderness and other animals. So therefore there is a lot of reindeer meat. I'm not certain if there are reindeer especially breeded for meat. But this is wha I've learned living here in Finland!
I enjoyed the VLOG. Was very sorry to hear about the Huskies. Dreadful! On a positive note, as a person living outside of the States, your sense of humour is international!
So if you eat some ditch.... Omgosh I laughted so hard... I'm from Ontonagon Michigan, and FIN-land looks just like the U.P. Also @ 9:31 Travel hack..conversation starters.... best tip Tim.... so funny 🤣 😆 🤣
Finland is famous for being the Happiest Country in the World, as well as having the world's best education system and cleanest air. Finland is known for its saunas, reindeers, Nokia, and the Santa Claus village.
It's 100 km/h limited in most main roads of Lappland in winter too. It works just fine in most conditions because traffic is low and most roads quite straight. In the night time you can see opposing cars like a minute ahead (long distance lights in snowy terrain lighten really wast area). In the past many used to drive 120 km/h or even faster (in winter), nowadays it's rare.
Care to explain about the dogs and dog sleds? Owners mistreated those dogs & beaten those dogs all because of the money. ATG & I say Finland people don't use dogs.
The dog sledding was an eye opener and I would have cancelled once I saw how a dog had already been mistreated when he had managed to get lose. Very sad! I think you should have exposed them and the name of their company and their faces. What were you afraid of - exposing them as animal abusers?!I We need to take a stand to animal abusers. I hope you were nice and warm in your hot tub while the dogs were freezing. Kind of out of touch with reality here.
Nice enough video, but not enough action and too much talking and non-amusing incidents for me - despite the (at times) seemingly ‘forced’ laughter. Do you really amuse yourselves so frequently and so easily? Maybe I’m just a depressive? 😕 I’m absolutely sure you’re a very nice couple though, regardless.
Learn more about our Dog Sledding experience here: ua-cam.com/video/IwdjE5TapdU/v-deo.html
Thanks for reporting that. As a Finn, I'd hate to have these companies provide anything but animal safe services.
But also just as a reality: any dog here gets ice and rocks between their paws, or even glass in the summer. Not excusing anything. Just saying that any owner needs to be interested and take care of the harm their dog is suffering. Neglect is not acceptable I think even under Finnish law.
Also, as a Finn, I know exactly where you are. I used to run the black slopes, because nothing else was challenging enough. One never tires off coming down these World Cup slopes.
37:40 Also yea it really depends on the year and how much snow / how cold it is to get the snow covered trees
Also Saariselkä is a bit further but honestly also incredibly beautifull ski resort! It's also very populair on Social Media for the frosted cable lift and stunning views! The trees covered in snow are not all winter there!
I don't know why but im obsessed by these travel vlogs in Lapland. You did very well, liked a lot!
Dogs do not have poor living conditions in Lapland, no way girl! They are happy and they have purpose. These dogs do not like to live inside. Finns are highly respectable towards animals, if there really was some kind of beating, that's police matter in Finland and unacceptable. You can ask yourself, are dog living in concrete cities more happy?
You were in Sami owned land, where they have traditionally used dogs for centuries. I do appreciate you and your sightings, but I really think it is done ethically. Otherwise these people would not be in business very long.
And again. Really really loved your vlog!
My cousin lives in ivalo and I think these people went to the sadly know huskyfarm that actually does have bad conditions. Every local people knows about it and the company has been in trouble about it, they know their reputation but still run the farm
Unfortunately it was too warm and not enough snow at the time u were in Levi…. When theres enough snow the ”instagram spot” is the whole skiing resort :) Loved ur video!!!
Greetings from a Finn
The last time we traveled was pre-pandemic. With a lot of countries opening up their borders, hopefully, we can travel sooooon!
I love the way Fin says the Finland words with an Italian/Spanish accent.
bahah yesss applies to everything!
Thank you for sharing your trips with us. The editing is excellent and everything looks so beautiful 😍
Wonderful video!!!! The filming is terrific! The cottage igloo resort looks like a lot of fun. Glad they provided "Butt Towels" in Finland.Thank you for sharing this wonderful trip!!! Love from Vermont
Thank you Tim and Allison for filming your adventures. I know that can’t be easy. You make me feel like I’m there with you, and that’s pretty darn special. I can’t wait to see what’s next on the bucket list.
You know, northern MN was called little Finland. My great grandfather and grandmother lived in Suomi right off Graves Lake. It was called Graves Lake because of a bunch of horses who sank in the lake many many decades ago. Also Suomi means Finland in Fin. There's also a place called Finland MN, and it is super like Finland, and beautiful. Just so you know, you can get a similar feeling, but without having to deal with alot of the other stuff.🤷🙄😂🎉😘
Great
Great video 👍 so much better than others I have seen quick question though where did you stay in Levi we are currently looking at hotels for March and that looked very central.
Didn’t know you guys were from Michigan. I’ve skied Boyne Mountain and Crystal Mountain quite a bit. I’m a full-blooded Finn. My mother was born there.
Much snowier than when I randomly went to Rovaniemi in September. Loved the episode!
Great country FinLand - Suomi. Thank you for your travel blog 🙏🏻 ☕️ 😎
Loved this video. I don’t know much about Finland so it was really cool to see. Thanks! 😊
I am sad to see your experience at Aurora Village was less than anticipated. I am surprised to learn of the COVID dining rule, as when I was there in October, the Delta variant was surging, but there were no restrictions. The night prior to. "reindeer night," they went around to all the guests to review the next nights menu, and asked if there were any objections to reindeer, or if an alternative was preferred. I guess since you arrived on the same night, there was no alternative. Sounds like timing wasn't optimal, but you made the most of it.
WOWOWOW! What a winter wonderland - it looks so magical
What a beautiful winter wonderland! Love it and subscribed
Love the video, showing the everyday scenes. We live in Lapland, near Kittilä but lots for us is just daily regular views. Made me think more to watch when we drive around.You picked in my opinion the best locations for a short stay. And thank you for wearing masks and helping us protect everybody and the tourisme industry.
Great Video and Very Informative I loved it so much and felt like know I know why youtube recommended your channel to me ♥️ Finland love
Northern lights are definitely on my bucket list!! Love your videos!
You two have the romance of the century. An adorable pair. It’s beautiful to watch your light and cheery humour together
wow it is a winter wonderland
As a finn thats just so fun to watch how they experienced everything as well, they're REALLY American in so many ways...😂🙈
December to March u find 95% of those snowy trees. U just had bad luck a bit. Mostly those trees are covered that kind of snow most of the winter. I meand top of the resort and bottom of the hill.
I live in Southern Finland and I've never been on a husky ride in Lapland - it has always seemed a bit cagey, as you said it's a new thing over here. I feel bad for you guys to come across a bad actor. I hope your stay in Finland was nice, even though you didn't have too good weather, there was the stupid COVID restrictions and the husky ride was bad.
Not a short bucket list U have! 👍Hope U enjoyed ur trip in Lappland 🇫🇮.
The snow is melting from the trees at this time of the year in finland
Absolutely great informative videos kiddos to you both
I just love your channel and this episode is just awesome from my home coutry. I have done also couple travel vlogs from Finland. Just started my channel. You guys inspire me!
please do not judge all husky farms because of one bad experience. most of them treat the dogs amazingly well and provide them with activities they were bred to do without abusing them at all
it's obvious that beating the dogs is wrong but them living outside is not poor living conditions, that's just how working dogs prefer to live. they are not pets after all
seems to me that you just managed to book the safari from one of the sketchy companies that are bound to appear once something gets popular enough
As a born and bred Laplander I appreciate you giving a clear view of what husky turism can be at worst. It indeed is not a traditinal form of transport and many operators are not as ethical to the animals as we like to think they are. They are however regulated and treating the animals bad will result in consequenses If reported. A notice first, but more severe outcomes for the entreprneur later. My home region is on tourist ski resort with at least 5 or 6 husky operators. Of those I would only use services of two of those companies as they are very transparent of their process.
Also having skied those slopes all my Life I just felt so bad cause I knew you couldn't find them as the other trees were so bare. Most tykky (The thick snow coverage on the trees) would bengone. Also I think Sanni Oksanen filmed many of those in Ruka resort.
Tim and Fin , This was an epic adventure that Harriet and I totally enjoyed. Beautifully video , Great editing as always guys. Did you spend any time in Helsinki, it's a big university city. Sending you lots of love. 💖💖 Jim and Harriet. Richmond, Va.
13:50 We do brush the snow off but usually the brushes aren't that crappy lol
Greeting from Alpena, Michigan. It doesnt look much different here right now. Great video!
All I have to say to this video is PERKELE! 😄
Cool video. There are t-bars in N. America. I encountered one in Breckenridge, CO. I was terrified using it.
Allison with that broom had me dying!! 🤣
Hi, I am from Southern Finland and I got very confused. If I understand you correctly, you saw injured dogs and beating? It sound like a made up story I must say because Finland is generally considered extremely good place for animals compared to other countries. Finland has strict animal laws and it's a POLICE CASE if there is animal abuse. Did you report this to the authorities? Also this type of animal abuse would go to the nation wide news immedietely. I have newer heard that here someone would openly beat their animals and get away with it. I think you have made some sort of mistake here. Maybe the owner didn't notice the dogs paw. Maybe for you it looked like beating but was not. Also I can quarantee that those facilities for the dogs are leagal because they would otherwise not have permit to do business. AVI has probably checked the facilities that they are good. And did you talk with the dog owner about this? He/she could probably explain.
You should inform people to not beat their dogs
I've lived here for half a year now in Rovaniemi, Finland and can absolutely say that this is not a made up story... I'm sorry to say this but my guide friends that work with huskies even told me stories much worse... And they've been living here in the northof Finland all their lives. I've personally been to a husky farm that the locals here reccomended and didn't doubt a second that they were not happy and well cared for. I've grown up with dogs and my mom is a dog trainer. I did not see cold, injured dogs that flinched at human contact at any time at that farm and had no doubt that they were taken care of very well. I agree this is not what I saw in Tim & Finn's video on it. That you haven't seen it yourself doesn't mean it isn't happening... sadly... because I wish it wasn't. But as someone working in tourism... I can't say that this doesn't happen more often here in the north of Finland.
@@belugafamily3296 that’s bullshit story
Sori kun vastaan tälleen kaks vuotta jäljessä mutta siis serkku asuu ivalossa ja luulen et noi oli just siinä surullisen kuuluisalla koirafarmilla joss on oikeesti hirveet olot, kaikki paikalliset tietää siitä ja se yritys on ollu vaikeuksissa ja tietää maineensa mutta silti ne vaan jatkaa pyörittämistä tänäkin päivänä🥲
Hey! I wan't to comment on the dog sledding part. I definitely feel that such an experience should be reported to local police for dog safety, animal abuse is a big crime. I would also like to think that not every husky farm treats dogs badly; if you decide to keep a husky farm in a land where you have free education and opportunities to become anything you want, one would have to assume you're quite a animal lover to do such a low paying(?) seasonal job.
And with this conclusion I would like to say that there should definitely be husky rides that are much more ethical. Huskies are work dogs, who love running so the work itself is good for them (assuming they get rest). So the possible problems arise in how the dogs are treated when not working. To what I have seen in Lapland videos, the huskies usually live in like 10m^2 cages, where they have some space to move but the actual daily running comes from the rides. Assuming they are fed well and not abused, I would consider husky rides ethical on this basis. Because in addition to pulling sleds, huskies are also built for living outside. The main problem I see here is the 10m^2 cage, which imo could be like 100m^2 cage for better living standards.
I guess my point is that dog sledding can in general be unethical, if the dogs are treated unethically, but it doesn't have to be and there should also be good companies that do this ethically. I would also argue that most dog farms love their dogs and treat them accordingly and that these who treat their dogs badly should be held responsible. So as a general note for people who are going dog sledding in future, it would be advised to do some research about the place and on the other hand, if during your research (or your experience) you find someone who treats the dogs badly, they should be reported to police (at least in Finland, where the police can be well trusted (the least corrupt nation according to Transparency International))
If you managed to read this, please give me a comment to keep the conversation going :)
Animal abuse is criminal offence in Finland, with possible sentence of prison time: (search for "animal" (ctrl+f or cmd+f))
www.finlex.fi/en/laki/kaannokset/1889/en18890039_20150766.pdf
Some additional sources:
www.nomadasaurus.com/is-dog-sledding-cruel/
www.responsibletravel.com/holidays/dog-sledding/travel-guide/ethical-husky-safaris-and-husky-welfare (This is from the industry but anyways)
www.barbarassimplelife.com/do-huskies-like-pullings-sleds/
crueltyfreesoul.com/is-husky-sledding-cruel/
Ah ha ha - Fin and the broom! And the food descriptions! I think you should include your food more - especially with the gluten-free thing. We aim for wheat-free and I could be a semi-closet vegetarian (except the bacon part).
tim with the zinger... top 10 curves of finland... number 8. lol
Haha...they are probably happy Reindeer (until that fateful day they are told, you're dinner for these fine Americans) :o( But...as you say, when in Rome...it'd be a bit tricky to dig in, tho. However, we are like y'all...after seeing The Last Pig, and other documentaries, no more piggie for us. No nadda cow too. Ugh...poor sled puppies. Anyway...enjoyed your trip into the brrrrr...cold. Very interesting to see a place I probably will never visit.
I think it was a very happy reindeer until...Well you know... Fun show. :) Yes, I would have tried it.
Interesting finds
There are a few tourist husky farms in Finland that have more dogs then they can handle, no running water et cetera. And the finish goverment does nothing.
Another great video. FINland was great. Hope you catch up with your email soon.
Very nice photography
Tell me you are from the Midwest without telling me you are from the Midwest= tennis shoes 😂
Cool
Lol my husband and I also have our own duvets-it’s the best 🙌🏻
I really like you two. You learn and teach so many about the cruelty of animals that can come with tourism. Thank you for informing people.
I'm a huge foody but tooootally understand the awkwardness of filming lol. However, I love seeing different snacks and foods from stores too. Thank you for all your content. 😘
Lol , that Castaway reference at the end 🤣
That is why most forms of animal tourism, including dolphin tours, dog sledding, etc., is exploitative to animals. Any tourism dollars that go to companies like that further them allowing to treat animals like crap. There are good ways to partake in animal tourism such as helping out at animal shelters, animal sanctuaries, etc. Giving those shelters and sanctuaries the money that one would spend at something like a dog sled tour is a much better use of that money. I applaud you for realizing that the company wasn't practicing good ethics towards the animals and showing that on the internet and using your voices for good. I also applaud the step towards vegetarianism /veganism. If you think the exploitative nature of dog tours, etc. is horrible; factory farming is that times a million. Most humans will put money ahead of animal welfare in situations like that. and by tourist spending money there, making specific trips there for the animal tourism gives more and more people the idea that companies like that are good whilst they are not.
While I agree with using captive wild animals as a form of human entertainment is bad, exploitative, et cetera, I don' really see the maltreatment in this case (although I haven't yet gotten to the sledding part of this video). As a species dogs are domesticated wolves that due ancient breeding have a strong bond with humans. The difference between dogs as a pet and these kind of "working" dogs is in my opinion not that significant. Also as I'm from Finland I might have slightly based idea of how this kind of business is conducted here versus the other parts of the world. I'm pretty sure that there's been cases of mistreatment here as well, but in dare to say that in general the sledding dogs are doing fine.
edit: through a quick google search I found one article from 2018 where 17 dogs were very badly maltreated: www.kaleva.fi/poliisi-tutkii-elainsuojelurikosta-kiimingissa-nal/1852224 pretty sure that google translate gives an somewhat accurate translation but in a nutshell the dogs were seized and treated but two of the dogs had to be put down due their condition.
edit #2: basically the beatings and poor living conditions should be reported to the police, but I'm not the one doing it cause im a coward (and I'm basing this information on a UA-cam video)
Hi Tim and Fin
My boyfriend and I watch you guys and we both felt so bad about your Dog sled experience! We live in Alaska so we really enjoy all your videos! The one where you guys went dog sledding was so awful ! The people up here that do dog sledding and take people out . They treat their dog very good! The dogs eat first sleep and rest in straw. If the dogs have sores or aren’t feeling well they don’t take them out on runs. The dogs get constant medical care ! Right now as I am writing this 3/09/22 the Iditarod sled dog race is happening. If a musher doesn’t take good care of his dogs he could die, so their well being is number one ! I got very up seeing a swing the video how the man hit the dog ! That is not tolerated up here! I am so sorry you had that horrible experience! That behavior is sickening! Truly! I just wanted you to know it is not the norm!
He should have been fired ! The dogs should have had straw to test in and no dog should be ran with bleeding paws . The very least it should have been treated Ed and carried back in the sled !
Anyway thanks for letting me vent this out it was quite upsetting to see that man treat the dog so badly!
Hi @Ilachavez3116! My husband and I are BIG fans of Tim and Fin! We love watching their videos and they inspired us to start travel vlogging. We just got back from a trip to Alaska in August and vlogged our time there. We did a dog sled experience at Knik glacier. It was absolutely amazing! Our musher was training for the Iditarod for this year. Dogs were definitely treated well. Hope you will check us out!
You where driving to Ivalo area? You could have flown straight there from Helsinki
Wait...your trip pack doesn't have a light weight reusable shopping bag in a neat little pocket sleeve !? You're welcome 😊
Nice place
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That whole "igloo-resort" place looks like something I as a Finn wouldn't visit. Looked really cheap. There are some real glass igloo resorts in Lapland (and lower Finland too) so I feel bad you didn't experience those but just a cottage with big windows.. Shame. And just like there are glass igloo resorts, there are also better dog sledge companies which actually care about their animals. Doesn't give a pretty picture, but it's good to see the other side too.
As a Finn I think those beds are odd too.
About the reindeer: Reindeer farms hold the reindeer during winter to help them get enough food in the harsh winter! The Reindeer come themselves to the farm when the winter is coming. Almost all of the reindeer get released in the wild after winter except for some racing reindeer that are kept in huge fences. The population is controlled. This means that every year an amount of reindeer have to be 'put down' (couldn't find another proper word) to keep the total population under a certain number to protect nature. Otherwise they are too big in numbers at the cost of the wilderness and other animals. So therefore there is a lot of reindeer meat. I'm not certain if there are reindeer especially breeded for meat. But this is wha I've learned living here in Finland!
I enjoyed the VLOG. Was very sorry to hear about the Huskies. Dreadful! On a positive note, as a person living outside of the States, your sense of humour is international!
So if you eat some ditch.... Omgosh I laughted so hard...
I'm from Ontonagon Michigan, and FIN-land looks just like the U.P.
Also @ 9:31 Travel hack..conversation starters.... best tip Tim.... so funny 🤣 😆 🤣
There are over 3,000,000 saunas not 2million
Omo see ice
I PITY THE DOGS!!!
Goog job
Does it Smell like Tulum
Finland is famous for being the Happiest Country in the World, as well as having the world's best education system and cleanest air. Finland is known for its saunas, reindeers, Nokia, and the Santa Claus village.
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He is funny..
How fast were you driving and it seems scary. LIL
It's 100 km/h limited in most main roads of Lappland in winter too. It works just fine in most conditions because traffic is low and most roads quite straight. In the night time you can see opposing cars like a minute ahead (long distance lights in snowy terrain lighten really wast area). In the past many used to drive 120 km/h or even faster (in winter), nowadays it's rare.
wheres the buc ceys?
Back saving lives in the hospital!
Sow-nah, not saw-nah. 🇫🇮
It's a shame and an embarassment if you witnessed possible animal abuse, but hopefully you enjoyed the rest of your stay in our country
fin looks VERY finnish/swedish. maybe a swedish speaking finn.
Hi, please tell me how accurate are google maps out there.
I know the cost is to high is worth st no those north of Europe
People so mean /awful
Say hello to Dearborn Michigan
Care to explain about the dogs and dog sleds?
Owners mistreated those dogs & beaten those dogs all because of the money. ATG & I say Finland people don't use dogs.
Stop sharing BS. Levi is not highest point of the Finland - at all. Please keep real!
Levi is lovely and nice skiing centre, but highest point is Halti: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halti
The dog sledding was an eye opener and I would have cancelled once I saw how a dog had already been mistreated when he had managed to get lose. Very sad! I think you should have exposed them and the name of their company and their faces. What were you afraid of - exposing them as animal abusers?!I We need to take a stand to animal abusers. I hope you were nice and warm in your hot tub while the dogs were freezing. Kind of out of touch with reality here.
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Nice enough video, but not enough action and too much talking and non-amusing incidents for me - despite the (at times) seemingly ‘forced’ laughter. Do you really amuse yourselves so frequently and so easily? Maybe I’m just a depressive? 😕 I’m absolutely sure you’re a very nice couple though, regardless.
dude those huskies feel SO much better than any of these:
ua-cam.com/video/BQTwvbWAx8A/v-deo.html