Why Drywall Construction Work in Australia is Faster than USA
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- There's a few reasons why drywall construction in Australia is done faster than in the USA. First of all, generally the drywall or as Australian's call it 'plasterboard' is 10mm on the ceilings & the walls which means its thinner and lighter than in the USA. That doesn't mean its any better however. But it is lighter and faster to install. Another huge advantage when it comes to speed of fixing and finishing is that the plasterboard placed 10mm off the ground on some plasterboard blocks then two sheets are generally stacked on top of each other rather than pushing the top wall sheet up to the ceiling first. They do do that in Australia but only when it is square set and cornice is not being installed. Otherwise you can see a small gap at the top of the walls and a paper faced gypsum coving gets installed over that with cornice cement. In this video you can see how Drywall Construction In Australia is done.
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Queensland it's XXXX...........😊
😂😂😂😂😂
And someone blowing in the breathalyser for the cornice guys ignition so he could drive home.
Laughed so hard at this 🤣
@@Vvewa bags* when the camera is off.
I was a plasterer for 24 years no boxes or tapeing machines all done by hand. Word of advice before entering this trade it is hard on your body. I am 61 years old now and my neck and back and knees are stuffed. 11:46
You oughta find a physical therapist, particularly a sports PT, they look after athletes and such and they can do a wonder for you where you're right as rain within the year and don't have to continuously go back to them unlike a chiropractor
@markwynoogst G'day Mark, so which part of the country did you mostly work in? I was in Vic in the 80's, Qld in the early/mid 90's Indonesia and the UAE after that, working with Boral Plasterboard.
@ g!,day mate. I started in early 80s in south Australia. I was sheeting and flushing and doing cornice in houses. Then if I remember I went into cermercial doing shopping centres and offices late 80s doing frameing plus sheeting. Fire check sheets were the worst. No sheet lifters all done with back. Then moved to qld Brisbane doing high rise appartments in the city for 15 years. When my body had enough I only did pre paint for cermercial and houses. I now work in caravan industry making frames for caravans. lol . Frameing again.
Typical wingeing gyprocker, try being a chippy if you want to know about hard work 😂
@@markwynoogst ... Using your head to lift and hold ceiling sheets instead of a hoist ??
Audience, these guys are monsters in the construction industry. They get an "A" approval rating from me. Here in America the construction industry isn't that fast or great with their work. Kudos.
Plenty of dodgy builders search site inspections Australia
Our workers get paid a wage that more than suffices for them, they get $40-$65 an hour. Which is above the living wage of $15 per hour.
In fact our national minimum wage is currently 24.10 and it goes up every 12 months.
Here in Western Australia, double brick is the common method. Some of this method is used, especially building up due to weight . The original slab on single storey was never intended for 2. There is a house near me like this and the cladding on outside. Looks very New England.
Bloody awesome tradies, a poetry in motion, well done team
Having done some repair work, I can confidently say I work at 2% the speed of these guys. Must be pretty full on being an apprentice.
It's nuts to see how quick these blokes are.
@@leonclose7823 They’re definitely racing because they’re being filmed.
You get used to it after a few weeks. Any of us that work by the meter over here go hard everyday. Get some nice early knock off's too and straight to the pub lol
Dont know why but the you tube algorithm suggested this video for me
I find it fascinating with the speed the guys work at
You know you’re watching Aussie tradies when you see that iconic yellow Bunnings tape measure. 😂
@jimmysalford8415 because they aren't on eba rates and they have to buy cheap Chinese tools
We don’t glue our studs or put boards between our studs as braces but our ceilings are 400 centres (mostly) and boards are 2400/1200 12.5 or 15mm thick! Them long things the Aussie are sticking look sweet! These guys are fluid as funk! Well oiled 👊👊💯🇬🇧🇬🇧
the longest standard sheets are 6mts. 20ft. , but sheets up to 7.2mts are available on order.
I just commented that I've only seen 4x8 sheets here in Canada, those longer ones would save time but difficult to handle.
@@sc0tte1-416 4x12 should be readily available as well.
The boards between the studs are called Noggins and effectively shorten the bend length of the studs making them stronger for the same amount of material.
@steved6472 the 'Fixing' method for a 1200mm wide wall sheet is a nail or screw in the recessed edge, with the long edge of the sheet spaced a max of 10mm (3/8") off the floor. 4 'Walnut' sized does of adhesive on all of the wall framing members and the addition of a temporary block or 2 (depending on the length of the wall) to hold the sheet in place fixed to the face of the sheet till the stud adhesive sets fully (24 hrs)....or so the manual used to state...I wrote it...
Not having to frig around with ridiculous imperial measurements probably helps too.
Just buy a metric tape and do all your measure/cuts from it. A measurement is a measurement whether in imperial or metric. If the structure was built in imperial you can still use metric for the board measurements.
Don't hold your breath but eventually America will get a dose of common sense and change to metric.
@@alexcrandon9559 funny how imperial only bothers the people that don't use it.
@@jarduhat8267 that's because we used to use it but our country had the sense to change to metric and we know how smart that was.
American and prefer Metric.
In Australia/New Zealand, the sheets are installed long side horizontally to reduce the length of the seams that need to be plastered. That is also why the sheets are so long.
Dont see many Aussie plasterers in aus anymore, good to see!!!
Yep getting pushed out because they won't work for peanuts.
Don't know where you live in Oz, but almost every plasterer I know is an Aussie, with a couple of Kiwis in the mix.
All Asian in Melb
@@troyhansen7749 all the plasterers that are Aussie do follow up work. Unqualified crews of Asian fellas bang it up anyway they like and then an Aussie will follow along afterwards and clean up the snot.
@ ahhh, ok. I'm in country Victoria, where even all the Milk Bars, fish & chip shops, and general stores are owned by Aussies.
When doing your own bathroom renovation put up the ceiling , top wall sheets and cornice first before you have installed the shower base and bathtub . This way you are not having to work around the shower tray and bath . I normally also paint the ceiling and part way down the top wall sheets at this stage also .
Now thats a good idea....😊
Also, another thing my dad taught me was that when you are doing the bathroom and you have to caulk around the bathtub, make sure to fill the bathtub with water about three quarters full. This ensures you get the right amount of caulking done for the job, and it's not too thin and stretchy, causing water damage in the future.
I've watched him build three houses, and our bathrooms never had issues.
I normally use villa board but have used wet area gyppy with ok results.
@metricstormtrooper Just keep a bond breaker in place, use mesh tape for the junctions and or a Hypalon flashing, have a separation between the sheets and the finished floor level to prevent 'wicking' and you should be golden. Should perform fine with all the new regs around proper ceiling of the walls - July 1st 2024...
Love watching your work at 2X speed and seeing how well you work around each other……like watching ballet!
Australia takes full advantage of chemical advantage via "Stud adhesive" ....
The Seppos just wack in a screw, every 200 mm or 8"
Stud adhesive is brilliant stuff especially ceilings less need for screws and its almost impossible to break the glue the gyprock gives before the glue.
For anyone watching from the cheap seats. Seppos = septic tank = yank.
wow - the first time I've seen this in action - pretty impressive !
One of my Rels has a building company in California, he started as a “Drywaller” and still does a lot of contracting in Drywall, I sent him this clip. He will be spewing, last time I visited, he was “upset” about productivity.
Back in the 1980's I went to trade school as a Brickie but we had Plasters down stairs, I reckon half of Collingwood was covered in plaster, the trade school was cover in foot prints, out in the street the road and footpath were covered as well with a trail of Plaster chunks and foot prints that lead to the pub every lunch time, a time when we also had topless bar maids! when your 16 years old a beer and some eye candy for lunch made going to trade school awesome. With all these fancy tools these days it looks like it cuts down on a lot of the mess.
Was this at BIGS?
Collingwood TAFE ?
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BIGS was a trade school in Marine Pde, Collingwood just wondering if this is the same place, I did my chippy apprenticeship there. Sounded similar as we had plasterers, brickys, carpenters, scaffolding......
most of the time taken in "Drywall" is the finish plastering , with their equipment and skill these guys can do an average house in a day , i tried and 2 days later i was just finishing the first room , worth it to call in the pros !
A 'good' team of 'fixers' can sheet a 3 bedroom house in a day, remember most 'typical' houses 200m2 (1800 sq feet) in Australia have 2400mm (8') ceiling heights, many are 2550mm or 8' 6" now and a lesser amount are the 'traditional 2700mm (9') ceiling height, they also use 'sheet' lifters to wind the sheets up to height and also 'prop' the walls sometimes. Any repetitive task can be worked on to make it faster and maintain quality, one thing they didn't show was 'back blocking the ceiling sheets - to prevent cracking and also the use of 'paper tape' instead of fibreglass tape - which is still mostly used in North America and some (many) parts of Asia, it will ALWAYS crack in the joints, not every but every home I've ever looked at - 1000's over the past 40 years that used unreinforced fibreglass tape (sticky tape) have cracks of some degree. - Hence 'Mandatory' backblocking for Ceilings AND walls when used, so most plasterers/drywallers don't use fibreglass anymore in Australia. It would have been good to have a 'voice over' copy of the video explaining what the 'fixers', 'setters/stoppers', ''finishers', 'cornice hands' were doing. I also noticed if they had cut the sheets for the bedrooms slightly differently they could have saved 3 x 6000mm sheets - but added 4 extra joints to the walls, the fixers and setters 'don't care' but the boss would have been happy to learn that 'trick'...Sheet sizes in Australia Generally start at 1200mmx2400mm, 1350mmx2400mm and go up in length to, 2700mm, 3000mm, 3600mm, 4200mm, 4800mm then 6000mm (Sometimes 5400mm - mostly for export as that's the longest length for a standard 20' shipping container) all roughly 8', 9', 10', 12', 14', 16', 18' 20'. 55mm, 75mm and 90mm (2.5", 3", 3.75" ) Cove cornices are in various lengths from 2400mm to 3000, 3600, 4200, 4800mm due to the space constraints of the cornice factory and the inherent 'strength' of the cove shape a 6000mm length will crack when incorrectly handled.
A very good instructional video. Well done.
@@ya33a Great points about the back blocking and the rubbish mesh tape.
Back blocking does help in stopping cracking but its main purpose is to stop peaking of the joints. It first came into common use about 30 years ago.
@@tonyp2865 Ok, didn't know that. It certainly helps with getting the butts flat.
BTW, saw your Maico rebuild and I must say that thing is beautiful.👌 Wow. Top notch mate. Hope you still got her and still going strong. Cheers from FNQ.
I would've loved to see clips of them putting up the gyprock on the ceiling using the lifters. I've done gyprock on the ceiling once years ago helping my brother renovate a house where we lifted them using T-shaped timbers, did not enjoy doing that. Years later I was meant to help him gyprock another house and this time he had a lifter machine, never did help him though since I was away when he did the ceiling. I did however help him to build (and later move & rebuild) a room inside his factory using cool room panels where we used the machine to lift the ceiling ones up, he got so lucky not to be seriously injured the second time when the machine mustn't of locked in properly causing the panel to come crashing down practically on top of his head.
@@Sevicify Gyprock is a brand name, its plasterboard or drywall.
If I had my time again I'd get into a trade like this. Zero chance of your job being offshored or replaced by AI. The skill required to do this at this speed at seemingly little effort but have pretty much the perfect result on each wall is amazing. Top work.
No, AI will come for these jobs too
As robots improve and AI improves, it will do most of these jobs, eventually, it's just depends on how much it will cost to replace the tradesperson
Imagine if you had an AI robot who can work at 2/3 of the speed, or even half
You could set it up in the evening prior to when the tradespeople come in
It can churn away at night, even if it competes only 2/3 or say 1/2 of the job, it means the tradespeople are not needed as much the next day when they come in to take over
AI is not even half the problem to solve. The robotics thats a challenge and WAY off
My 1st plaster job was pulling out lower timber panelling & then trying to match plaster board with Horsehair plaster which was much thicker. Wish I'd had some of the tools used here but was a good learning experience.
Did Drywll in New Zealand for years. Retired now and paying for it with aches and pains. Hard work but rewarding.
This team are Queenslanders, Loganholme is a suburb in Logan south of Brisbane
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@@Maxkil says it on their shirt
@micheledix2616 Fixers got $1.35/m2, Setters $1.10, $0.90/lm for cornice, $0.10/lm to 'sand'....Good old EA&S days...$8.50 supply, fix, set and cornice. Hervey Bay was $9.30, Sunny Coast $10.00, Bundy was almost $14.00 and the Gold Coast was as low as $7.90....early 1990's...
@@ya33aI am not sure what your interesting information has to do with my comments that it was a SEQ team doing this installation !
I deliver gyrock to bunnings mostly with the odd run to the compition beta board. I’m just thankful I drive a semi and don’t have to hand unload this stuff.
Damn....imagine how fast they would work if they had some MUSIC 😂
У нас картон, применяемый в ГКЛ, имеет выраженную направленность волокон. И получившийся лист прочнее поперек листа (по короткой стороне) и слабее вдоль (по длинной) Поэтому ГКЛ лучше монтировать вертикально - тогда короткая сторона связывает между собой стойки и стена получается прочнее.
Тут не уверен, что так же, если бумага на обратной стороне легко рвется - у нас надо резать с двух сторон
@@vitalyvalochnik1802 translation??
Install quality is great, but acoustic performance of this design is very low so it goes up fast, yes the header joint will be covered with a cornice but still very leaky.
I renovated my first home, this video shows me how I should have just hired someone 😔
The gyprock work is on steel studs and not screwed in 4 positions across the width of the sheets. One thing I noticed is no stud glue is placed at the 1/4 and 3/4 locations on the width of the sheets
Australian trades are all about time efficiency while being cost effective. Not just drywall it’s almost in all industries in Aus.
I've seen what joints look like when normal plaster is used instead of base coat. Sure it's fast but not as durable if there is any movement it's going to crack. It's probably ok on a slab house.
I've got a wall sheet here held together with base coat where the foundation has moved a bit. It's clearly under strain, but holding together.
My house was done in 5/8 not just the ceilings but the walls and it really makes the walls look a lot better, thin sheet rock looks horrible. You could see every stud within a couple of years… it’s worth the extra cost and misery carrying it
Yeah I agree, when we do the 13mm makes a big difference, even seeing 30 year old ceilings when we repair, the thicker stays so much better over time
It’s two layers of 15mm with a 4mm dampening layer for acoustic, joints all off set on 400mm centres.
I call bulldust on that!
@@stuartedgar5921 Yeah im a painter and decorator in Australia i repaint many older homes ive seen countless terrible plaster jobs but you can never can see wall studs???
@Indonesiansurftravel yeah you don't normally see that
As a person that started drywall in the USA in 1969 and retired in 2012 this application in Australia is good, but definitely not faster.
Strong! Fast! Coordinate with each other. The boss is the cut man too!
Here the boss sits in the truck on the phone pretending to have meetings then collects the checks.
I’ve watched Max for over 5 years… team work, talent, efficiency.
Here is one white dude and 25 Mexicans. 😅😅😅😅
You won’t find an American team with a UA-cam channel. Mostly one man shows.
Well here it's -20, working in an unfinished house without a furnace, have the GC there around the clock refilling the genny to use electric heaters, without that we'd be waiting days between coats.
Right tools for the right job.The only way to become a professional is through hard and repetitive work.Where do you buy this tools for plaster board?Keep up the good work mates.
.....remember folks, we only build 3- ways Good, Fast and Cheap.
The client only gets to pick two.
Good and fast.....then it wont be cheap
Fast and cheap..... then it wont be any good
Cheap and good ..... then it wont be fast
As a general contractor; I couldn't agree more. I only do it one way; my way...No rush, take my time, do as close to perfect as I can...
stealing this!!!!
And then there's the dodgy guys who are slow, expensive and not any good.
It's called the Iron Triangle and it's a big thing in Engineering and project management. in the case of an ongoing production model like the above, The Iron Triangle is more complicated because up front industry investment and efficiencies of scale come into play.
I might be slow, I might do a rough job but geez I charge a lot
Yea that cornice and thinner sheets... the time adds up over big projects and can save days.
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Omg I wish cornice would catch on in the US. Inside corners are where the time adds up.
@ I sometimes do it here in the US. But it’s crown, out of wood, and takes a decent amount of time to cut nice and install good and then the caulking and painting and you’re prolly not saving time at that point.
Australians also only use one measurement, the mm. 1000 mm in a metre, but tape measures don't even have metres on them, everything is just mm to keep things simple.
Yes, except when buying timber or steel lengths, when we say, for example, 4.2 (length) of 90X35 (cross section). Some older tape measures used to have metres, centimetres and feet and inches marked on them I still have one or two. Never use them because, as you say, it makes errors in cutting a real possibility. I remember when timber was sold by imperial cross section and metric length, so I would buy a 4X2 (inch) joist in a 4.2 metre length! That was back when were were still in the process of changing to metric.
Everything is Metric in Aus until you pick up a socket set, and even than, if the sockets are measured in millimetres, the wrench will still always be 1/2 inch or 5/8ths haha
@@AdamTownsend_ was referring to the building industry, they did the transition really well by banning the cm, but yeah, there are still odd measures used.
@@alexjohnward Yes I get confused when someone gives me CM as a length etc MM and Metres is easy. Annoyingly a lot of stuff out side the building trade can be quoted in CM.
@@IsambardKingdom you get confused by CM? must be a grano
Love both. Can't chose, so I am going to have vote both US and Australia ❤
My large house extension was really my first real job, and I would have done a lot better if I had watched this video first. I got the help of a reasonably experienced guy, but even then, 6m sheets on the ceiling was a real problem, and we had to cut in into two. I also put some gyprock on to existing brickwork. Cornice makes things a lot easier, I notice that in the US and UK they do not use cornice, and square set it. Also, in the UK they top coated the whole wall and ceiling, which is only done on select homes in Australia. It is great to get 6 m sheets here. Having an experience team makes a big difference, and also for the roof cladding. As a single operator, I have had to work too hard and long, with a lower quality finish. Still, I am proud of having achieved it, and despite mistakes, by home looks very attractive. I think that my sense of architecture made a big difference as a badly designed house can have all the right finishes, but to me, many houses are not great design wise.
Top shelf tradesmen ✊!
These guy are the real deal. Quality work at its best.
These guy's are smashing it, and they have to. In Australia innovation in techniques and speed are at the forefront of construction as the contractors are poorly paid by the major builders.
Not poorly enough to stop them buying huge Murika utes.
@@metricstormtrooper Yep you are talking about the 1 or 2 percenter's, I will guarantee you that the vast majority of these guy's don't have a big Murika utes.
I see a lot steel studs to get some very flat walls. Sure that make it easier.
Yeah, it's all dead easy when everything is new and square
Hey! OSHA says no running on the job site. Also you need 3 people to lift that sheet rock. We need to shut you down for a week to inspect. We'll call you when we're done.
You can't even get OH and S right. Those sheets are thinner, so they are L i g h t e r.
My partner and I hung on average 120 sheets per day, and 75 PER DAY WAS THE COMPANYS BARE MINIMUM
My back already hurts for you .
5:50 I goto keep this video to show those gaps between the wall and ceiling - straight into the ceiling cavity - then hidden with the cornice. but shit and heat/cold still coming through as the cornice always moves against the wall and has gaps.
I reckon UK & USA builders would be astonished
Is that light I see coming thru 4:59 ?
Why the big gap between wall and ceiling dryboard and why do they put the lower dryboard on wall and stack upper on top.....backwards to way it is done in US with NO gap
In this particular case, there is a cornice that is 3.5" wide covering it. Insulation in most parts of Australia is rudimentary as the temperature fluctuations are not as great as the US.
Any insulation is often directly below the roof, and on top of the ceiling joists.
Exactly. Show me a manufacturers technical literature that shows installation be done in this manner. Tolerances so bad I could drive a bus through that gap. Looks rough as guts. No wonder the aus building industry is rife with defective buildings. see: Site Inspections
Most ceilings in Australian homes are done with cornice as standard thus the reason the gap is there, less time taken and no need to get the wall board to meet flush with ceiling board. If someone specifies they want a square set ceiling in Australia, I believe they start from top down.
because it's not "square set" like in North America. You do get square set finishes in Australia but it's less common, in such cases there is no gap. Cornice is used most often.
I'm from Canada but have lived in Australia for the past 24 years and worked in the industry (AV Technician) for the entirety. This video shows pristine work here, I'd work with these guys any day. When you see the mobs that have 20 guys that pour out of a van and sheet your house in a single day ... that's worth the criticism because they'll shoot about 20 screws into the sheet before one takes hold and don't care because somebody will plaster it up later and hide the mess. In my experience with these people they can hang sheets but are terrible for finishing work and take ages.
Also it says they use 10mm plasterboard for ceilings and walls, my experience with the hundreds of builds I have worked in (yes, actually in the thousands now) they use 10mm for the ceiling and 12mm for walls. These days it's definitely lighter and "fluffier" to cut into than it was even 15 years ago.
My big "thing" here is the lack of insulation, the houses are like being in a tent - despite not having the wild temperature swings I'm used to from Canada. No insulation in the internal walls in residential projects typically unless asked for.
it sure looks like you have not watched all the way to the end
Can't say I've ever seen drywall sheets that large, only 4x8 sheets here in Canada, but what do i know. Those looked like 4x16. Nice.
1350 x 6000, the wall is about 4500
4X10 AND 4X12' AVAILABLE HOME DEPOT 1/2"
Australian plasterboard sizes.
10mm
Widths 1200mm 1350mm
Lengths 2400mm 2700mm 3000mm 3600mm 4200mm 4800mm 5400mm 6000mm
In the USA 🇺🇸 the companies hold small to medium tradies / contractors back. It’s all about profit to major corporations. Australia 🇦🇺 don’t rush to become anything like the USA 🇺🇸 🚨example suppliers dont stock or deliver any Sheetrock larger than 4 feet x 8 feet.
Not true at all, contractors prefer 4x12 sheets rather than the 8’ sheets due to less waste and less seams to tape. Using 8 foot sheets is far more expensive especially on a larger project. Please don’t say false information.
Absolutely not true lol standard size boards working as a commercial carpenter in nyc are typically 8-10ft boards and the occasional 12ft board
Aussies are just way better, harder, stronger, skilled, diligent workers, top blokes🇦🇺💯🤙👍
@@seawench555 and we re not battling snow ..... that must be a pisser ....
I’ve worked for 2 years in Australia but grew up and worked in California my whole life till this day and idk in any other state but in cali we for sure are way more productive and our quality is much better in both drywalling and taping (plastering)🇲🇽🇲🇽
@@giovannidecasas5087 Apparently whoever wrote this video title has never been to California. Almost all of these techniques and time-saving tools were invented in the big tracts of California. They've been working faster & better than this there for many, many decades. This video is nonsense.
Yeah, I used to throw ceilings and walls with my husband. Word of caution to all aspiring female gyprockers, it’s a great job but don’t be lifting six metre sheets… you will damage your back at a much younger age, our ligaments and spinal column weren’t built for that.
It can interfere with your reproductive systems if you excessively strain various areas
Males can't have babies (despite the woke telling you that they can), females are unique and wonderfully made, they need to preserve their bodies for the glorious function of motherhood if they can and want.
Guys are happy to protect women if need be, they just ask for loyalty in return. Win:Win situation
Aussies don't mess around they get it done!!
Don't be fooled. Everyone works fast when the camera is on them.
@localkiwi9988 you are right about that.
what happen if gets windy
mr maxkil
i like the construction noise more than the background music you put in the vid
just letting you know
Would liked to have seen some adhesive on those studs.
@@ar2612 guy with the bucket, and dabber
open your eyes
As a contractor in the USA, who grew up and worked construction in Australia , US construction workers and contractors are the most efficient well organized workers I’ve ever seen. Aussies in general love to run around on the job, and you know what say “ if you to quick your to rough😉
Automatic mud tools where born in North America, so North Americans well on top with drywall production work 😉
Mmm I thought There was good bad, efficient non efficient everywhere !
Never seen an aussie tradie work so fast..was it in fast motion?
The boys look on their best behaviour !😂
great work lads
Getting on the glass bbq would also help the Aussie plasterers go faster.
Is this Gyprok fixing or plastering? Not the same. Im a fixer, my mums boyfriend is a plasterer. We are nothing alike. He just sooks about screws hanging out, even if its one screw. Its like saying a skateboarder is a surfer. Not the same. Two completely separate things. And you know it.
True but cost twice as much -why?
These boys are quick
My Dad used to say , "There not house's ,there brick box's with partitons in the middle " Our Family are Solid Plasterers"
Guarantee you some of the Mexican drywaller crews in south Florida would run circles around anyone in Australia. Once you hear that corridos blasting on the radio you know shits getting done
Was there any sanding in this video or is that not a thing anymore?
If you are good enough there should be minimal sanding
You can see the sanding marks on the ceiling pretty clearly in the video around 12:45 so there was some sanding at least and I'd imagine more later including hand finishing. Doesn't make for exciting video.
What I don't understand as a customer is why as technology improves, work speed is increased significantly (thinking things like collated screw guns, taping machines, top coating machines) why doesn't the price get cheaper? Yeah you have to buy the equipment and learn to use it, but it's not that expensive and would pay for itself in a few jobs. Labour would be significantly descreased compared with 15 years ago, yet prices are the highest they've ever been?
Materials prices have gone up like crazy (especially since COVID), insurance rates go up consistently over time to please shareholders, the cost of living increases always increase because of inflation so worker pay needs to raise to match it, and if you want your company to look professional you need a vehicle(s) that doesn't look like a complete beater (car loans are insane). Does the business have an office location that is not owned (rent prices never go down)? COGS is a real expense customers don't see, but absolutely impacts profitability.
@@adamfink5294 Agree totally with everything you're saying, however I feel like in this trade (and in plumbing) technology has had such a profound impact on efficiency in the last 10 years that I would expect a lot of those increased costs you mentioned to be absorbed by the labour savings - what I mean is Plasters and Plumbers should not have increased at the same levels as chippys and sparkies.
I got into white collar work not too long after school because at the time trades didn't make much coin (unless you owned a successful business maybe). These days the trades outperform most white collar professions. So to me that points to trades making greater profits. You hear of a sparky making $180-200K+ /year (and that's probably not counting the cashies. I got into the wrong line of business :D In saying that though, I get to WFH, sit in an AC office and drink lattes all day so I guess it's swings and roundabouts. It just changes the paradigm on how much pressure I need to put on my kids school-wise. They don't need to go to uni to make bank anymore!
PS - you don't need a $110K Toyota Raptor to be taken seriously as a tradie! LOL
You're correct but competition and greed plays a big part. In Australia, over the last 30 years, if you didn't make a fortune as a tradesman it's because you're a moron. It's a small market, there is plenty of work so they charge ridiculous prices for mostly average work. If it's a small job you're lucky if they'll even turn up and quote. The government has consistently stimulated the housing industry to the point that, financially, you're better off doing a trade than most professions.
@@markhodges1276 More like a 100k 70 series with another 100k worth of mods.
@@markhodges1276 Agree, nearly left Tech School at 16 to be a Plumber - being a bit lost went on to become a Charted Professional Engineer, (lost 6 years of work) work was great as an Engineer and fun being the Boss - but would have definitely made more $ in the Trades and would have got into contracting/building. - Being interested in the trades I developed a good knowledge and hands on in all Trades. -- So didn't push the last boy to go to Uni. He became a plumber then a Fitter and now has moved into Management, always bringing in great money.
Nice, not much out there on solid plastering, living in Perth where full brick is still king. Had a kitchen/dining room with 80s face brick every wall, paid cash to ol mate and his gf in between builders work. I think they liked - cash pay, gutted and empty space, an esky with iced coffees/cokes by me, permission to have a choof and that im not going to be over your shoulder.
Not trying to kiss eggplant but i think you get better out of people that way rather than being a cheap cnt. Very good finish i might add.
Working on a job site no shirt and in shorts no hard hat Never see this in Canada wow
Great video
That;s it son, ya did your job today.
Considering all the cornices design available the builders always go for plain or no cornices.
That standard 90mm cornice is still the strongest and simple to install and looks the best in the majority of cases as in the video the sheet size vertically leaves the gap at the top so making shadow joint cornice far more complicated needing another join line close to the edge mored difficult to finish
Where is the wrap?
Everything is about speed these days but the quality is shit house right across the home building industry in Australia.
A large majority of homes built in the last 20 years could be condemned..
Homes build in the last 4 years start to fall apart before anyone has moved in.
@@timeofyourlife7561 Thats why you use a reputable builder! Costs a bit more but quality is 1st.
@@timeofyourlife7561at least the Tradies have huge Murikan utes.
yep , plenty of young untrained heads on sites getting paid $10 and hour by their uncles etc lol
Радуйтесь что в сша есть нормы. Если бы вы видели какие нормы гипсокартона, электрики, каркасном строительстве в россии-их нет, а те что есть противоречат сами себе, плюс некачественные смеси и материалы российского производства либо подельные в 70% импортные. Я незавидую заказчикам ибо им можно подсунуть любую лажу, некачественную работу, за любые деньги. Это у вас в США русские работают качественно, на родине они же в основном лепят брак... 22года занимаюсь стройкой и знаю о чем говорю. Русский диплом мастера - это пустая бумага, как и слова я всю жизнь этим занимаюсь. Нанимая рабочих с 30летним стажем, я иногда сидею что они делают.
Nice work
Time is money as per usual the best price wins the contract
been out of the trade 20yrs got to my 2nd year apprentice and left kinda wished i finished dont miss the sanding and cornice.
lol. Sanding sucks
This is not Sydney, there is no Aussie crews doing resi houses these days.
not from there, who is then?
Indians
@@alexeybalshoi2455 Chinese crews of about 20 guys that pour out of a van and sheet a double storey home in a day.
@@alexeybalshoi2455 Mostly asians. Chinese in particular. They are very hard workers. They need to be because the metre rates are low these days hence why I got out of it.
@@SuperRiverRat1 the ceilings are bowing in every house i paint
What's the difference between the white and beige compound? Hardness...setup time?
It's an indicator. The beige dries white. I'ts a quick set so you know when it's ready to reapply the same day. The white is laden with more glue so you must wait a full day to apply the next coat.
@@9and7 👍
White is base coat product. Beige is top coat product. Base coat has hardness and strength, top coat flows easy and easy to sand but little strength.
JUST THE COLOR SO U CAN SAND SMOOTH JUSY LIKE IN AUTOBODY WORK IT SHOWS IMPERFECTIONS
No the base coat is plaster based so it sets, the beige top coat is vinyl based so it just air dries and is soft enough to sand.
Watching production taping is cathartic. All I do is patches...from hacker plumbers and electricians.. nearly every patch is one ragged butt joint.
Where’s the glue?
Only cause your screws go in counterclockwise 😂
In Germany that's called Pfusch
not sure what this video shows about being faster? machine taping has been around since the 1970's, roto zips have been around for thirty years, auto feed guns have been around equally long. I was a commercial carpenter in Philadelphia. Commercial drywall is all 5/8" ten foot, with longer twelve or even sixteens on ceilings. If you can't do at least forty stand up full sheets you won't have a job....in eight hours. Go to any east coast big city...you will see some olympic type athletes installing drywall in large commercial buildings. Our apprentice winner did nineteen sheets in an hour for the apprentice competetion.
Hey guys what’s the best router bit for drywall in Australia?
Where is this as WA build double brick & tile homes.
Queensland
Ok, the Aussies put thinner drywall between the floor and ceiling and floor and the US put thicker and heavier boards from the floor to the ceiling. Big difference
yes they also leave huge gaps between the wall and ceiling which allows a lot of sounds to transmit through those gapping holds, they then rely on corner molding to cover up the wide holes, so a real cheap way to do it.
@@jason.martin They will do one side of the wall and then use rockwool insulation in between to dampen sound, it usually extends all the way up sometimes into the roof cavity, then they sheet that side.
@@jason.martin We commonly use "cornices, go look them up, totally different, that's why the gap at the top. also, Our climate differentials aren't generally as extreme as in the US... The thickness depends on where the house is built...
How long are the boards you are using 18ft?
20ft I reckon
10mm thick on walls. 13mm on ceilings. Or 10mm special ceiling board that has reinforcement. The longest sheets are 6.000metres x 1.200 metres, or 1.350 wide. . 19.685 feet is 6.000. 1.200= 2.54 feet. 1.350 = 2.85 feet.
@@MegaPixie666 .1200 = 3.937 feet , 1350 = 4.429 feet .
Where are the light switches and plugs/ receptacles???
@@jonathanseal5155
They are usually marked with a screw put in by the plasterer. The electrician will cut them out himself, and pull the wires. In Australia, you only have brackets, not boxes for electrical fittings.
I thought there would have been a comparison
The only drywall I would use is FERMACELL. You can fix things anywhere. The other stuff is rubbish as you can fix heavier things on studs only and that is a real pain.
I'm happy for you.
@@metricstormtrooper I feel sorry for those who fall for the cardboard stuff.
What we call crown molding is that piece at the ceiling how does that work over time no cracking or movement?
They all crack over time an spend all your time fixing
On well seasoned frame or steel, it's not bad. But eventually, hairline cracks will appear by the time it's ready for a new paint job, so no dramas.
Steel studs don’t move much.
The crack, gaps between the ceiling and the wall. Since the wall and ceiling gyprock don’t meet, shit from the roof cavity accumulates into the cornice area and then falls thru the gap inside the house. Never mind the heat/cold that comes in there too
Australian dry wall guys some do a good job but most are crap and cut corners to much it's hard to find good workers
Def quick. But I prefer it the way we do it in WA. Double brick and plaster. Although steel frame and gyprock is starting to really take off cause its a lot cheaper and faster.
Double brick everytime, doesn't blow over in storms 😀
I've built double brick, timber framed and steel framed. Worst for temperature was double brick, too hot in Western Australia. The timber frame was OK but over 20 years the steel frame hasn't moved a millimetre, no plaster cracks, fantastic and stable. Less worries for earthquakes and termites. None of the houses ever suffered storm damage.
As a retired brickie I approve this comment
@@addictiveaussie whyre you leaving comments like a single mum on facebook champion? wat a weird world we live in where old gun brickies are speaking like nerds online lmfao
We call it plastering, not drywall construction.
It took me a minute but I finally saw the difference. You see in AMERICA only Mexicans do this type of work now. It’s cheaper for the business to hire them and they get repeat business because they quality is so poor it needs to be done twice.
This is in Melbourne and god I would not want to go back to this style of work - very monotonous!
Going by old mates shirt it'd be somewhere in Brisbane / Gold Coast.
I bet it is exactly the same in USA. Same tools and materials. Different brand names.