I’m assuming it doesn’t necessarily mean the 747 won’t be used, just not Boeing acquiring and doing the work. They would be second hand aircraft anyway, like both VC-25Bs will be.
@craigbeatty8565 The USAF won't consider anything without 4 engines. So the 747 is the only possible platform. It's also no longer in production. Lockheed or Northrop's bid for the contract would have to include them acquiring lightly used 747-8's and modifying them accordingly.
@@B52Stratofortress1 They may be older but there are more of them (for spare parts) and some might have fewer pressurization cycles which I think matters more than age.
@@sebastianguerraty6413 That space currently is being used to do rework on the 787 prior to delivery in the Everett 40-23 building which was the old assembly bay for the 747. The 737 is going in on the old 787 line building 40-26. Building 40-24 and 40-25 are used for 777 production and the 40-34 building behind the 40-24 bay is the KC-46/767 line. I am retired Boeing employee that worked in Everett for 30 years
Boeing kind of is. Remember, the new Air Force One jets currently in development are two 747-8s that never took delivery. The USAF decided to take those up for the VC-25Bs. That’s going to be the last new 747s that will be produced. (Atlas Air took delivery of the last ever commercial 747 but not the last new 747)
@@sebastianguerraty6413plus, other than Korean Air, Lufthansa and Air China, no passenger airline wanted to order anymore, hence why the orders dried up and Boeing decided to end production after the last freighters were built and delivered in 2023)
I don't understand why can't they just take the 747-8 and add all of the modifications on it? The modifications have already been done on the same 747 body once surely it can be done again. At the end of the day the only real difference are the wings, engines and the cockpit.
@@mafiaboy87 I think they are rather stuck then… because Boeing is in trouble and Airbus may be the only game in town…………….unless they want to consider COMAC(!)
@@hypercomms2001 you are talking about commercial jet manufacturers, but don't forget that there are other military aviation manufacturers in the USA which could take the role. Airbus and Comac are out of the question.
I’m assuming it doesn’t necessarily mean the 747 won’t be used, just not Boeing acquiring and doing the work. They would be second hand aircraft anyway, like both VC-25Bs will be.
This is the logical answer
The new VC-25Bs are brand new. The original customers never picked them up.
@@LordVader5738Yeah, but they still aren't built for order. Just not the same.
I’m sure Cessna can come up with something
nah learjet it is!
Piper: Am I a joke to you?
😂😂😂
I've been waiting for someone to make that suggestion. LOL
Beechcraft: What am I chopped liver? 😂
Would be cool if Northrop or lockheed make the next E-4B
ANYONE is better than Boeing.
How? They got out of commercial aviation decades ago.
@craigbeatty8565 The USAF won't consider anything without 4 engines. So the 747 is the only possible platform. It's also no longer in production. Lockheed or Northrop's bid for the contract would have to include them acquiring lightly used 747-8's and modifying them accordingly.
Its time for the L1012!
Let's bring back the Lockheed L1011 for this project
Thanks to the over budget of building the 2 replacement presidents planes and problems with the 737 Max problems, Boeing is in financial difficulty.
And the KC-46 tankers for the Air Force, and the Starliner space capsule, and the 787 paint peeling, etc.
Bring back the L-1011 Tristar!
C17 globemaster or 777X
@@obelic71 both of which are Boeing?
@@theharper1- The Tristar is not Boeing.
@@GH-oi2jf the C17 and 777x are Boeing. Please check the reply which I referenced. I'm aware that the L1011 was Lockheed.
Why not the CV-990?
Don't worry, they got two choices. Chinese C919 with extended range or the Russian IL-96 400.
If they want to keep the analog nature of the current E4, then my guess is they would use the retired KC10s with the most remaining life.
They're even older than the existing E-4Bs are
@@B52Stratofortress1 They may be older but there are more of them (for spare parts) and some might have fewer pressurization cycles which I think matters more than age.
The Chinese will be glad to take on the job.
haha
😂 but negative
Or Airbus
Never!!! Lol
“For you my friend special price” 😂
Gotta bring back the 747-8 ! 😁
I love that plane, but they are using the space for 737s I believe, so this seems extremely unlikely. :/
@@sebastianguerraty6413 That space currently is being used to do rework on the 787 prior to delivery in the Everett 40-23 building which was the old assembly bay for the 747. The 737 is going in on the old 787 line building 40-26. Building 40-24 and 40-25 are used for 777 production and the 40-34 building behind the 40-24 bay is the KC-46/767 line. I am retired Boeing employee that worked in Everett for 30 years
Boeing kind of is. Remember, the new Air Force One jets currently in development are two 747-8s that never took delivery. The USAF decided to take those up for the VC-25Bs.
That’s going to be the last new 747s that will be produced. (Atlas Air took delivery of the last ever commercial 747 but not the last new 747)
@@sebastianguerraty6413plus, other than Korean Air, Lufthansa and Air China, no passenger airline wanted to order anymore, hence why the orders dried up and Boeing decided to end production after the last freighters were built and delivered in 2023)
I think it's great that the government has stopped giving manufacturers blank cheques. Enough over spending.
I don’t think planes like the 777x or A350 will be used because the added safety and security of 4 engines is paramount for carrying the president.
I mean, ETOPS-certifications are exactly to prove that twin jet is safe enough for flying with two engines.
It’s about power requirements.
@canaryX2784That’s because of ignorant comments like yours from so many ignorant people.
@@jaketusredundancy. Money isn’t a concern to the US, redundancy is. Better to have 4 very reliable engines than 2 very reliable ones
Boeing's engineering competency over the last several decades has been greatly diminished from its legacy of past great aerospace achievements!
Why not ask Airbus?
Airbus could supply the airframe, say the A340, but work has to be done in the USA, so NG or LM would be the prime.
I don't understand why can't they just take the 747-8 and add all of the modifications on it? The modifications have already been done on the same 747 body once surely it can be done again. At the end of the day the only real difference are the wings, engines and the cockpit.
Boeing does not make the 747-8 anymore. There dismantled the assembly line and equipment.
That’s probably what will happen.
@@KarmaFlightThey don’t have to be new.
@@KarmaFlight they can always buy second hand many are gonna say farewell to the 747-8 soon, 747-200 in 2023 is just crazy…
Hey Lockheed!
Airbus A350-1000 enters the chat
That's what I'm thinking too.
Yeah, but my bet is on the A350-900, because it has that insane long range version.
yeah but also the a380 would be really really cool.
It's must be American made. So no, that shitbox won't be looked at
@@Pedro_the_great it *must* be? where does it say that?
just use all the retired A380s or 747-400s.
What does "bows out of the competition" mean?
They're no longer gonna do it
They saw the specs of the DOD and said hell no !
"Please pack your knives and go."
"The tribe has spoken; it's time to go."
"You made your choice; now it's up to me to bow out gracefully..."
It means they said gives us more money please
They bowed to the competition. Literally 😂
Doomsday planes may be pointless in this era of warfare.
Agreed
Boeing is obligated.
So....is Airbus taking over...?
What about Airbus?
US defence contracts stipulate made in USA and favours American companies for security reasons
@@mafiaboy87 I think they are rather stuck then… because Boeing is in trouble and Airbus may be the only game in town…………….unless they want to consider COMAC(!)
@@hypercomms2001 you are talking about commercial jet manufacturers, but don't forget that there are other military aviation manufacturers in the USA which could take the role. Airbus and Comac are out of the question.
in case of security ? take the bus! @@mafiaboy87
Boeing wants Uncle Sam to pay for them under bidding and running up the bill
No, they want to prevent that from happening again.
@@johnp139 Yes - the gov't does.
Good! That’s what the DoD gets for forcing all of these Firm Fixed Price contracts!!!
Comic C919 will be the next one.
Lol no way 😅
give it to space-x
SpaceX doesn’t make planes and has no experience with them.
Planes that blow up themselves? Why would you want that?
Modify the 777x
No idea what this means. is this Click bait?
Not clickbait, you just don't understand the terms in the title. Which is why you watch the video...
Try listening
Thnak tRump with his cheapest price guarantee. However that's why Amazon is responsible for the closing of many businesses. Read 'em and weep.
scarebus might build one for ya!
Better than the coffin jet by Boeing
@@maxsaviation9512blowing
first one here
Congrats. Just proved that your father left you years ago.
What does it mean for people to say first one here or 1, 2 etc? Is this some high status type of comment(s)?
@@jznsnb5618 not before i left your mom first...
@@Bywater-S it's funny. Let us have fun, old man.
AIRBUS IS MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR WOMEN PILOTS 😂😂
Me when blatant misogyny
They fly better than you.
What 😂😂😂
@@lornjohnson3039 they get practice giving handy jobs
@@NickIggler1969Is that why it's fly the "Friendly " skies