Earthbound 64 - The Mother We Never Knew

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  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • Glad to be back with an episode devoted to the Mother 3 we never got. We're going through the birth, life and death of Earthbound 64.
    Questions, suggestions for the show? Email me at pstckevin@gmail.com!
    CREDITS:
    ART:
    -FlintOfMother: www.deviantart...
    MUSIC:
    “Life’s and Inner-Turn Radius” - Mother 3
    “Like Looking for Dropped Pickles” - Mother 3
    “Afro Bam-Babam” - Mother 3
    “Taisumairi Village” - Earthbound 64 (Unreleased)
    “Is Anyone There?” - Mother 3
    “Tanetane Island” - Mother 3
    “Because I Love You” - Earthbound
    “D i v i s i o n” - Zane Alexander
    VIDEOS/MISC.:
    HUGE Thanks to OKeijiDragon for his work on a Mother 3 documentary. Check it out here: • Shat-Canned Legends: E...
    Official English Translation of Shigesato Itoi’s Cancellation Announcement: starmen.net/eb6...
    Earthbound 64 Cancellation Interview: yomuka.wordpre...
    "Hobonochi Tour in 4K" from StephenVlogs: • Hobonichi Tour [4K Vlo...
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 265

  • @PressStartToContinueYT
    @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +128

    Thanks for checking out the newest video! Be sure to leave a comment below about your thoughts on Earthbound 64, and as always, thanks for the support.

    • @allmight9840
      @allmight9840 3 роки тому +2

      Thanks bruh hope the family is doing well 👍

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +3

      @@allmight9840 Much better, thanks!

    • @Annexialol
      @Annexialol Рік тому

      "SNES titles just play so well on the handheld" _proceeds to show a game infamous for being hell to play on the GBA_
      In all seriousness tho, great vid.

  • @StarlightKidX
    @StarlightKidX 3 роки тому +678

    The day the dev cartridge is dumped online will be a legendary day for Mother fans.

    • @xxGravyBabyxx
      @xxGravyBabyxx 3 роки тому +142

      Not only for Mother fans, by all of gaming. This game has been rumored and dreamt of since 96. Almost 30 years of gaming. The dev cartridge is equivalent to the ark of the covenant for sure

    • @m1ssingnote
      @m1ssingnote 3 роки тому +20

      rom hacking time

    • @elzorrothrasher4724
      @elzorrothrasher4724 3 роки тому +72

      Just imagine what fan devs could do! They could even finish it, refine it (polishing textures, etc), make lots of bug fixes and even add content to it, It's a dream to know just a little piece of what Itoi was planning with this game, releasing a dev cartridge of it sure will become a wonderful moment for all Mother community✨

    • @therealmariofan
      @therealmariofan 3 роки тому +19

      Unless Nintendo pulls a star fox 2.

    • @westingtyler1
      @westingtyler1 3 роки тому +6

      how strong is the chance of this? is there a hint this is likely? I would love it but don't want to get my hopes up. I'm so tired of waiting for Earthbound 64 that I'm basically making it myself, called #NotSSGame. I have screenshots on twitter.

  • @EZOnTheEyes
    @EZOnTheEyes 3 роки тому +503

    The Mother 64 Commercial feels like a fever dream, or a glimpse into another universe

    • @davimag2071
      @davimag2071 2 роки тому +17

      It's the N64/PS1 games aura. they're special somehow

    • @EZOnTheEyes
      @EZOnTheEyes 2 роки тому +11

      @@davimag2071 I feel like 1996-2005 had those weird vibes. PC, N64, PS2, Dreamcast especially

    • @unsavedprogress1419
      @unsavedprogress1419 2 роки тому +5

      @@EZOnTheEyes 1992 - 2005 imo. The golden age of fiction

    • @moister3727
      @moister3727 2 роки тому +5

      @@EZOnTheEyes Because they probably had morr freedom to do whatever they want and games weren't as expensive to make compared to this day.
      Nostalgia also adds a huge factor in it.
      Thing is, back then artstyle had to be good to draw the attention since graphics were limited.

    • @doc_sav
      @doc_sav 2 роки тому +2

      Ahhh the 90s. Apparently weird dystopian visions with a healthy dose of "attitude" were really moving product back then.

  • @uzmk_mato
    @uzmk_mato 3 роки тому +348

    honestly im not sure if mother 3 wouldve been my favorite game if it weren't what it is right now, the sprites are really charming- however i would love to try eb64 out sometime

    • @loliezz8461
      @loliezz8461 3 роки тому +9

      what what? You’re into MOTHER too?

    • @Likes_Trains
      @Likes_Trains 3 роки тому +2

      Woah hi

    • @bluesolace9052
      @bluesolace9052 3 роки тому +6

      My friend is hosting a Mother animation collab, hope a decent amount of Earthbound fans enjoy it in the upcoming months

    • @loliezz8461
      @loliezz8461 3 роки тому +2

      @@bluesolace9052 when?

    • @cringekid07
      @cringekid07 3 роки тому +3

      @@loliezz8461 I think everyone here is into your MOTHER

  • @TheHillyard44
    @TheHillyard44 3 роки тому +327

    Why am I so enthralled by a story about a game series I haven't even finished.

    • @Tokio177
      @Tokio177 3 роки тому +17

      Get on it! You’re not getting any younger! If I can beat Bloodborne, you can finish an RPG! 😝😝

    • @cgnfake6721
      @cgnfake6721 3 роки тому +7

      I only finished mother 3, and know everything about earthbound. As for mother 1, I know legit nothing and I'm just waiting on the encore remake to play mother 1 and the mother 2 remake to play it.

    • @jesseknox9378
      @jesseknox9378 3 роки тому +1

      Me enthralled by a series I know very well always

    • @mello998
      @mello998 2 роки тому +4

      Mother games got that certain OOMPH about them that other games just don't got

    • @cameronkemp9742
      @cameronkemp9742 2 роки тому +2

      lot easier to watch a few videos than spend hours and hours on a game

  • @EmmyEntropy2000
    @EmmyEntropy2000 3 роки тому +157

    Its insane that this game still became a masterpiece despite its awful development

  • @UltravioletNomad
    @UltravioletNomad 3 роки тому +166

    The 64 lost FF7 due to a lack of a disc drive, and lost its FF killer to the failure of the disc drive (among other things).
    Could you imagine a world where Mother 3 is as well know as FF7? At least now Lucas and Cloud can duke it out in Smash Brothers.

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 3 роки тому +8

      Without Sony to keep Nintendo executives in check i fear what would have happened with all of their franchises
      Imagine microtransaction ridden consoles without NOTHING special other than being a glorified pre-built PC with atrocious DRM
      So yeah, i imagine it, and i fear it

    • @UltravioletNomad
      @UltravioletNomad 3 роки тому +5

      @@rompevuevitos222 Well... You're living in it my dude. I have over 200 games on my PS3/PS4, digital and physical. I'll have to wave them all goodbye someday when the CMOS battery keeping the internal clock goes out and the system has no way to verify licenses.
      Now I'm not a Nintendo shill, they've done some shitty stuff as of late, but pre-built PC console with built in DRM is what I'd sooner refer to Sony's last three consoles. Did you get those switched or do you think it's specifically the success and failures of Sony that keep Nintendo from fucking up their own brand. Like would they not have made the Wii if the GameCube had no competitors? I don't understand.
      Or that was all sarcasm and I'm just wooshing hard rn...

    • @rompevuevitos222
      @rompevuevitos222 3 роки тому +2

      @@UltravioletNomad Consoles, including the ones from Sony and Nintendo are all just PCs with a shitty OS, if you managed to install windows or linux in one (which some devkits have) it would be no different from a common PC
      Nintendo consoles however, they do shit PCs can't or won't do, like dual controllers, motion controls, touch screen (back when it was pretty much non existant for PCs), etc
      So yeah, nintendo has been doing pretty well, but that's because they HAVE to, if they where just the same as Sony they would have lost the console wars long ago
      That's what i meant, if Nintendo just had a monopoly in the console market and didn't have to worry about Sony, they would be doing the same thing Sony is doing now

    • @UltravioletNomad
      @UltravioletNomad 3 роки тому +6

      @@rompevuevitos222 I get the general arguement that competition breeds innovation, but I don't think they made shit like the Wii and DS to grab the same market share. The Wii was a success because it pandered to the casual market, its why they we're still making Just Dance editions for it up until 2020. Not to mention the tight connection Nintendo has with their own RnD. Nintendo will actively make shitty decisions not based on money, but because they just want to make this weird concept work, like the WiiU gamepad and Starfox Zero. In a lot of ways you can assume that certain aspects of their hardware are made purely because Miyamoto had some batshit idea (Nintendo Labo in a nutshell).
      So lets say for instance that the mobile market didn't exist, and Nintendo just launched their crazy idea for the Wii, and earn a mountain of market share in the casual audience. There's no incentive to do anything other than to pump out more shovelware that casuals will buy. I don't think Micros would be that prevalent, and they certainly would have been less likely to do something like FE Heroes. Instead, if you're looking for a shitty way Nintendo Execs would exploit a no competition scenario, look at the shit "Disney Vault" style approach they have to their backlog. We'd probably see more limited time release like 3D All Stars earlier. Why worry about recurring payments form whales when you can create FOMO with every single product you produce. Hell, they did it with the Super Famicom's Modem service, there are games on that that won't ever see the light of day outside of emulation, and the only reasons I could think to why they wouldn't release them is 1.Preserving brand value and 2. Nintendo's weird sentimentality of playing things original despite it not even being available anymore.
      All that being said, this is an interesting conversation that I really just wanted to dig deeper on. However I do want to clarify that My original prompt was merely to examine a world where the 64DD was successful and somehow Mother 3 delivered on all its innovative concepts, not that FF7 or Sony didn't hit at all. Even given a world where Mother 3 beat FF7, that's still just one good RPG on the entire catalogue of 64. I think Sony would be fine. Square might have rethought their decision however, maybe we could have seen FF9 on the gamecube or something... probably would have been terrible given Square's other Gamecube attempts.

    • @BigTrees4ever
      @BigTrees4ever Рік тому +1

      ⁠​⁠​⁠@@UltravioletNomadI know it’s 2 years later, but the other guy never replied and wow what an interesting conversation. I wanted to touch on the concept of the world where Mother 3 and FFVII were equally as huge, and interject with the idea of a world where the Sony + Nintendo PlayStation-as-a-SNES-add-on actually happens which triggers Nintendo’s early adoption of the compact disc in this timeline. This would change the n64 to either be entirely disc-based, or another Nintendo + Sony cartridge/disc hybrid, essentially the 64DD being an all-in-one right off the bat instead of an add-on released down the road. In this timeline I’m imagining, virtually the entire PlayStation 1 catalog would have come out on Nintendo consoles-the early games that didn’t need analog joysticks would have been made for the SNES, while the later games, including FFVII, would have come out on the discN64 that exists in this alternate reality. Mother 3 would have had the technology necessary to come out at launch, and be released on the same console as FFVII. Maybe with a more colorful PlayStation DualShock controller that resembles the n64 design and and a SNES controller with PlayStation style handle extensions. Oh a man can dream. Imagine what the GameBoy Advance would have been like with Sony’s input on it? Also, without the PlayStation being a separate console, Sega likely wouldn’t have hung it up and the Dreamcast would have had a longer run, as well as a successor to the GameGear, and possibly they would have continued to make consoles as well as games into the present. I’d like to imagine that the Zelda BSNES games would have come out, as well as the third Oracle game that was scrapped. Maybe we still would have gotten a GBA mother 1+2 port, and a full main line game in the style of mother 2 like our mother 3 was, but the thing I’ll always miss in this timeline is the technological superiority of Nintendo+Sony, and the 3D mother 3.

  • @photonsOrigin
    @photonsOrigin 3 роки тому +118

    Man, I would kill to have been a fly on a wall to see the development of the Mother series.

  • @ceilingstains2837
    @ceilingstains2837 3 роки тому +159

    The dump of the Pokemon Gold and Silver beta in 2018 gives me hope that some beta or demo version of Earthbound 64 is stilly laying around in some programmer's basement, and that maybe one day it'll be dumped online and we'll see what the game was really like

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +26

      One can only hope!

    • @orlandoluiz6173
      @orlandoluiz6173 3 роки тому +7

      That would be awesome

    • @flint8291
      @flint8291 3 роки тому +7

      HAL might still possess the cartridge.
      Who knows? There's evidence pointing to a few existing cartridges.
      Around 10 were made for Spaceworld. At least 1 survives.

    • @StarlightKidX
      @StarlightKidX 3 роки тому +7

      Don’t forget about Dinosaur Planet a few months back.

  • @sillysailorartemis
    @sillysailorartemis 2 роки тому +41

    Note on Agota Kristoff's work: as a non-native French author, her writing utilises a decidedly simplistic and-appropriately enough-somewhat childish/straight-forward language to explore the aforementioned themes of innocence, loss, and familial bonds in times of war and desolation.
    I can't speak to how well this translates over to English, but I feel words like 'stoic' and 'apathetic' are apt descriptors of her work. However, I also feel it's important (if nothing else, as an insight to Itoi's creative process/M3) to recognise the brutal nature ultimately stems from, like Mother itself, young children trying their best to survive, understand, and navigate horrible circumstances on their own. Depressing af, but not without a certain, unshakeable childlike optimism, if not endurance.
    tl ; dr - nihilism is to Kristoff's work as humour is to Itoi's + kids just be out here livin
    also, edit: excellent video, by the way!!

  • @oscarcamey8
    @oscarcamey8 3 роки тому +51

    Man, this makes me hope we get the ROM of eb64 someday. Like how someone managed to get the dinosaur planet rom and we can play it on actual hardware.

    • @issacblevins42
      @issacblevins42 3 роки тому +1

      We can hope. Like the Sony and Nintendo SNES collaboration was something only the staff knew about, for years people wondered how it would be like and yet some guy managed to find the console and even managed to make it work. If they can do that there is a possibility that they can find the eb64 ROM

  • @daehan8227
    @daehan8227 3 роки тому +92

    Makes me wonder when Mother 64's demo will get leaked. Seems like an inevitably to me honestly. Knowing that various demos have been found and uploaded to the net for emulation such as RE1.5, Castlevania Resurrection, Golden Eye's remaster and various others that previous thought to be lost to time.

    • @QuintetMagician
      @QuintetMagician 2 роки тому +11

      I truly hope it gets found. I’d LOVE to see just how much Itoi already had planned that far back.

  • @CharlesKhan
    @CharlesKhan 3 роки тому +108

    I wonder if that prototype will ever leak online somewhere?

    • @carlcristo262
      @carlcristo262 3 роки тому +31

      Yeah it would be really cool to see or even play through Mother 64. Personally, I like the pixel graphics a lot better, but it would still be interested to see what the game would have been like.

    • @venade9997
      @venade9997 3 роки тому +8

      Unprobable,but possible.

    • @Angel-ex1zg
      @Angel-ex1zg 3 роки тому +8

      well the pokemon gold/silver spaceworld demo got leaked, and recently half the ocarina of time demo as well, so it's very possible

    • @MarioKartSuperCircuit
      @MarioKartSuperCircuit 3 роки тому +2

      @@Angel-ex1zg And Mario 64's

    • @oceanautical
      @oceanautical 3 роки тому +2

      @@MarioKartSuperCircuit That was the source code leak for Super Mario 64, not a leak of any demos.

  • @ColadaPina
    @ColadaPina 3 роки тому +33

    Wow I literally just rewatched the mother 4/oddity video again and now you uploaded lol.

  • @breadbybread
    @breadbybread 3 роки тому +40

    top ten reasons I cry myself to sleep at night

  • @TheCookingDojo
    @TheCookingDojo 3 роки тому +91

    Based on the fact that we had Ness and Lucas in Earthbound 64, it makes me wonder if Ness failed to stop Porky and that's how the Pig Army took over

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +12

      Hmmmmmm....

    • @TheCookingDojo
      @TheCookingDojo 3 роки тому +23

      @@PressStartToContinueYT id actually love to see you do a video on what you think happened to Ness and crew between games

    • @CELFriendsGaming367
      @CELFriendsGaming367 3 роки тому +3

      @@TheCookingDojo I second this!

    • @cannon9009
      @cannon9009 3 роки тому +13

      (Small spoilers.)
      Well, considering Porky teleports away during the end of the Giygas fight, and says that he might see the party "in another era", assuming Porky wasn't wholy defeated, and that he exists in Mother 3, leads me to believe Ness travelled through time with the help of Dr. Andonuts (and possibly even Jeff) in order to stop Porky, who travelled to Lucas' time to possibly change the past, or even the future.

  • @tijuanajoe8445
    @tijuanajoe8445 3 роки тому +35

    Really nice and I learned a lot. One remark though: Kristof is not German, she was Hungarian and wrote in French.

  • @elfiebranford9330
    @elfiebranford9330 3 роки тому +60

    Even if the traditional 2D sprites fit the Mother series best from an aesthetic perspective, I REALLY wanna see a game that captures the look and feel of Earthbound 64. Heck, I'd even go so far as to say I'd want it to look super polygonal too!!

  • @Likes_Trains
    @Likes_Trains 3 роки тому +19

    Just a small correction: Agota Kristof is Hungarian, not German.
    I personally wouldn't recommend the book. I read it about a decade ago, so maybe was too young to appreciate it, but its *weird*.

  • @birdlegscass
    @birdlegscass 3 роки тому +50

    It was heartbreaking to hear Itoi's words on the cancellation :(

  • @MadotsukiGaming
    @MadotsukiGaming 3 роки тому +34

    Mother 3 would probably still have been better, it's one of three games that's ever made me cry and that's something

    • @axel8728
      @axel8728 3 роки тому

      What is the other two?

    • @MadotsukiGaming
      @MadotsukiGaming 3 роки тому +3

      @@axel8728 Mother 1 and Narcosis or however the heck you spell it

    • @Lyncin
      @Lyncin 3 роки тому +1

      @@MadotsukiGaming did ya play undertale? Its inspired on mother

    • @MadotsukiGaming
      @MadotsukiGaming 3 роки тому +1

      @@Lyncin yup

    • @nitro5247
      @nitro5247 2 роки тому +1

      @@Lyncin undertale is a masterpiece but I don’t think it hits quite as hard as the mother series

  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion 2 роки тому +12

    Honestly the version we got was a timeless and beautiful game. Ultimately I believe the 64 version would still have been beloved, much like Ocarina of Time still is, but the 2-D gameplay being a further refinement of the previous 2 helps to make it feel like a tighter trilogy and linked together more closely. This is a great video though, buddy! Good work!

  • @Pupppeteer
    @Pupppeteer 3 роки тому +24

    The pod racing thing in the game looked pretty interesting. Seemed like a game with a lot of side content outside of the main game it's sad that they cancelled this because N64 is my system I'd have likely played this unlike the original SNES one.

  • @WillowFaded
    @WillowFaded 3 роки тому +22

    Fun fact: a certain part of mother 2’s version of Pollyanna sounds like it was played by a otomotone

  • @nickk3077
    @nickk3077 3 роки тому +45

    Y'know, I wouldn't be totally against Mother 3 getting a remake in 3d. It would make the game more cinematic!

  • @Bleinsfield
    @Bleinsfield 3 роки тому +39

    Earthbound 64 is forever fascinating to me, I've spent so much time poring over the details, screenshots, clips (not sure if it's still like this but like every EB64 post on Tumblr has my like or comment or just something I posted lol). It's just such an interesting what if story. I imagine how it would have been if it released on N64 at the same time my friends and I were playing games like Mario 64, Goldeneye, Ocarina, Majora's Mask...

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +4

      I honestly think it could have changed gaming forever. Or perhaps, it would have propelled Nintendo to release more Mother titles that were subpar...

    • @AwesomeHairo
      @AwesomeHairo Рік тому

      Misuse of commas.

  • @opadrip
    @opadrip Рік тому +9

    Chances are, Flint would've been the Mother rep in Melee or Brawl had this version of the game released, given how much prevalence he got in the trailer it feels like he was supposed to be the protagonist.

  • @MetroAndroid
    @MetroAndroid 3 роки тому +28

    8:30 How is it possible to be that wrong? I've always wished the N64 had more 2D games.

    • @mrHowlll
      @mrHowlll 3 роки тому +9

      Maybe the N64 could have had more rpgs if it weren't "allergic" to 2D games. Imagine if N64 had ports of NES or SNES rpgs. Aside from rpgs other games too like maybe platformers from around that timeframe. I wonder if Klonoa on Ps1 could have worked on N64.

    • @firestarter6488
      @firestarter6488 2 роки тому +4

      The Sega Saturn showed how 2D games, when made with great passion and quality behind them, still can hold up against 3D games just as easily. It's no different than the classic hand-drawn 2D Disney movies, compared to the modern 3D computer animated ones.

  • @kiddbusiness
    @kiddbusiness 3 роки тому +14

    This video is very entertaining and very informative with the right amount of humor and seriousness. I really liked it I'm subbing.

  • @jubnubbens
    @jubnubbens 3 роки тому +20

    Weirdly enough I think the N64 has one the most timeless libraries of any console. With infamous titles like Super Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Banjo Kazooie and many more that continue to stand the test of time, I'd say the only part that hasn't aged well is it's comparatively low polygon count, which I think gives it an incredibly distinct personality that harbors a sense of anemoia. I never grew up playing the N64, but I've certainly had a bunch of wonderful experiences with it and it's many games.

    • @EmmyEntropy2000
      @EmmyEntropy2000 3 роки тому +1

      Those games are fantastic and their graphics were good at the time, but nowadays they're visually pretty ugly. I think mother 3's pixel art style far better suits the game.

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +2

      I'm certainly not saying I don't enjoy the N64. In fact, some of the most memorable games from my childhood are on the console. I'm merely relating to the graphical aspect. Perhaps I could have chosen better words.

    • @jamesk7256
      @jamesk7256 3 роки тому

      @@PressStartToContinueYT Actually, many of the games have a better overall aesthetic to me than most modern titles, and I'm certainly not alone in this - first- and second-party titles especially manage to look great to this day. In fact, I would say games like SM64 benefit from the limitations of the console in a strange way; many early 3D had a surreal, dreamlike quality that evoked a sense of intrigue. While much of this is certainly unintentional, many people have felt like the artistic apex of 3D gaming was this generation.
      Yes, many third-party titles didn't age well visually, and I can definitely see what you were pointing to when you said that. Yet, when UA-camrs parrot the "Wind Waker's visual style made it age better than other games", most people I know are actually completely nonplussed; OoT and MM aged much better to most of the people I know.

    • @jomaq9233
      @jomaq9233 Рік тому +1

      IDK, people generally find that early pixel art ages better regardless of their actual age, while early 3D graphics don’t seem to look that great to most people, not even just compared to modern 3D graphics, but also 2D ones as well

    • @jomaq9233
      @jomaq9233 Рік тому

      Nowadays, this does seem to be somewhat shifting, and nostalgic throwback games to early low-poly 3D are becoming more of a thing now

  • @kylemundy8871
    @kylemundy8871 3 роки тому +8

    Rhythm based battle? Sounds good until it takes you 40 minutes to beat a worm

  • @beanieweenie1349
    @beanieweenie1349 3 роки тому +11

    Finally a video talking in depth about this game, I have been wanting this for a long time. Also wasn't another one of Earthbound 64's working titles "The Forest of Unusual Beasts"

  • @briansilva3765
    @briansilva3765 Рік тому +4

    Itoi's comment makes a lot of sense to people who make games, as in theory, sometimes you have a quite complete game, like in a RPG for example, you have the map done, characters laid out in the world, the quests more or less are there, and from a glance it looks 60% complete. However you still have to put the details in, do the balance and make sure everything works. And while it seems like less at first, it's actually the worse and most troublesome part, as it is in that period where half of the work is done and games get stuck in development. So it really doesn't matter how finished the rest is if you can't put all the pieces together.

  • @originalgamer4002
    @originalgamer4002 3 роки тому +17

    earthbound 64 was soo ambitious i saw that the game was supposed to be 40 hrs long. it couldve been one of the best rpgs for the n64. oh well i guess.

  • @fartinator1
    @fartinator1 3 роки тому +8

    I would love to see mother 3 be released in 3d on a modern console and have the original content that was planned for the 64 version. I love mother 3 as it is, but every time I read about the scope that was planned for the game originally, the gba version just seems very lacking and limited.
    And as much as I love sprites, I really think 3d would make the game stand out and compliment the darker tone of the game better.
    Never gonna happen, but one can dream.

  • @hurri.
    @hurri. 3 роки тому +5

    Plot twist: the game never came out because the devs missed the opportunity to call it Mother 3D

  • @TheInkPitOx
    @TheInkPitOx Рік тому +4

    Now that Star Fox 2 is available perhaps Nintendo can make more unfinished games available.

  • @phoenixshadow4631
    @phoenixshadow4631 2 роки тому +6

    I think the funniest thing about Mother 3 is that if the DD had been pushed to a later release and Mother 3 actually got released alongside the DD in 2000 I'm pretty sure that Mother 3 would've saved the DD. Its too bad what happened but at least we got a great game later on.

  • @venade9997
    @venade9997 3 роки тому +6

    Dang,i was just checking your videos out then a video got released
    I guess i get bonus points for being early.

  • @xvacant7829
    @xvacant7829 2 роки тому +2

    I feel like someone who can speak or translate Japanese well, would be greatly appreciated to help reach out to some of the developers.

  • @Devnul
    @Devnul 3 роки тому +6

    This is such a good video! well researched, well produced and very entertaining. This is a very underrated channel, I hope the algorithm picks this video up!

  • @yup8865
    @yup8865 2 роки тому +2

    I would pay so much for a Kickstarter or just to have the files dropped. It hurts me that a probably terrific game, may never be played or achieved ever.

  • @DVX_BELLORVM
    @DVX_BELLORVM 3 роки тому +3

    While I'm not sure how the long development of Mother 3 impacted Nintendo's financials, its final release as a 2-D title on the GBA was the right choice, creatively speaking. 2-D pixel art has a certain warmth -- a fun, nostalgic aesthetic (at least for those of us who grew up with it) that fits perfectly with the feel of the Mother series. Seeing those 3-D renderings, as impressive as they were for the N64... I don't know, they left me cold. It just didn't feel like Mother to me.

  • @WillowFaded
    @WillowFaded 3 роки тому +5

    I’d love to see someone re-create the n64 build

  • @lactoseintolerart
    @lactoseintolerart Рік тому +1

    Imagine the gag if Nintendo suddenly released this game fully developed, and with updated, smoother graphics on the Switch online shop, with no press leading up to it...

  • @storiedworlds6261
    @storiedworlds6261 3 роки тому +6

    Yeah, I read those books. They were depressing as hell.

  • @olavored1733
    @olavored1733 2 роки тому +2

    I would love t osee a recreation of Eartbound 64, even though it might not be that good, i would like to see it, because, it's a piece of history, it's part of the MOTHER series, i dont care if its on the switch, or a n64 cartridge (even though n64's arent evenbeing prodused anymore) or even a rom, even if it's just a fan project, i would love to see one.

  • @bunsmasterbunny
    @bunsmasterbunny 3 роки тому +5

    Mother 3 in 3D would have been awesome. 3D games are great fun as well.

  • @theleonpasta7336
    @theleonpasta7336 2 роки тому +1

    While I would like to see what could have been, I'm glad what happened happened. Sure Mother 3 would have likely been a good game on the N64 but it definitely would have been held back by being an early 3d game, the art style is charming but definitely weird/off-putting compared to what we're used to and from what we can see in the footage available the camera angles didn't seem amazing for visibility, plus having enemies in the overworld might not have been possible/easy to do on the N64 without a lot of slow down. TLDR I'm glad Mother 3 came out on the GBA since it got to be a really polished 2d game instead of a still good, but unrefined 3d game

  • @bellepalencia5549
    @bellepalencia5549 3 роки тому +3

    I really wish this game wouldve saw more light of day. Like it makes me sad how hard it is to even play the sprite versions.
    Youd think with how much work theyve put in making 3D models of the Earthbound characters in Smash it would have popped up on Gamecube. I dont get how it wouldve been so hard if the whole time they complained about no disc drive. Well there came the gamecube with a disc drive and a catalog of amazing 3d games and nothing. Also with how popular those games seemed to be, I dont understand why it wouldnt make sense to put something new and refreshing out? ☹️ The only one of the main originals to not have made the jump.
    I always wondered why I never knew what game Ness or Lucas came from. Its hard to even play the orginal games.

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому +1

      Oh man, you should totally check out my other Mother videos, you'll be able to get the whole story that way!

  • @pksprite6401
    @pksprite6401 2 роки тому +2

    At the time, I’m sure Iwata and Miyamota’s statement on 2D vs 3D was extremely accurate.

  • @enricooler1433
    @enricooler1433 3 роки тому +8

    pretty good video! really makes me apreciate mother 3 more...

  • @xXLeandro12
    @xXLeandro12 2 роки тому +1

    Traduced with Google Translator the video title to spanish UA-cam got:
    "Earthbound 64: La madre que nunca conocimos"
    Sounds very funny and ironic to a Mexican

  • @UnknownFlyingPancake
    @UnknownFlyingPancake 2 роки тому +1

    Saying that the N64 was the worst aged console is so bizarre to me. That's a very subjective take. I disagree quite strongly with that personally. There are much more fitting consoles for that label, from things like the Jaguar to the Saturn. Not to mention even compared to the PS1 graphically, the N64 has aged much better in that regard, especially on more modern televisions which have a tendency to make PS1 games look worse. The main issue with the N64 was the lack of storage space capabilities of the cartridge format. In terms of the awkward early 3D period it was one of the better examples that didn't age as poorly as the various attempts at realism from the time.

  • @picivyvortac2641
    @picivyvortac2641 2 роки тому +1

    You know, I've heard a lot of negativity towards the N seniors not wanting 2d games on the N64. (This video doesn't really dab on them for it but) I think their approach was very well reasoned. The N64 (and PS1) are defined by the completely wild and unrestrained throw-it-at-the-wall-to-see-whay-sticks mentality. If they could have just made prettier SNES titles I don't think we would have the gems we have today. At least not as many. 95% of the games are forgotten trash, but that 5% stick in your memory way more than just about anything on following consoles as being seminal achievements of the art form.

  • @Luckysquirrel1256
    @Luckysquirrel1256 2 роки тому +2

    Never knew the story was so inspired by a book. I wonder if they had adapted Mother 3 into a novel, would they have to change some elements and character names to distance themselves from the original book to avoid any kind of infringement.

  • @yeolemillinial8295
    @yeolemillinial8295 Рік тому +1

    earthbound 64 probably would have released if it was on the ps1 lol

  • @justadragonnamemarcus1751
    @justadragonnamemarcus1751 3 роки тому +3

    Mother 4 the fallen timeline
    Come on nintendo

  • @WorldshakerX
    @WorldshakerX Рік тому +2

    This way my most anticipated game on the 64 and I was devastated when it got cancelled. I'd love to see what they finished be released one day.

  • @alwaysangry2232
    @alwaysangry2232 2 роки тому +1

    funny how of all games you show megaman & bass a pretty bad port of the snes game

  • @Used__Napkin
    @Used__Napkin 4 місяці тому +1

    Love that every year it seems we get more and more info on the original Mother 3

  • @RenegadeX28
    @RenegadeX28 2 роки тому +1

    This game is lost somewhere in a prototype cartridge.

  • @jess648
    @jess648 3 роки тому +7

    honestly in hindsight I prefer MOTHER 3 GBA because of the artstyle but EB64 is interesting as hell because of the differences in story and structure while still resembling what released in 2006
    Also its so surreal to hear the Pigmask theme as early as the 1999 trailer

  • @unclegarf7366
    @unclegarf7366 3 роки тому +3

    Oh god Fassad what did they do to you

  • @Forty3Snakes
    @Forty3Snakes 2 роки тому +1

    Gba is great. If anything this is a story about the true greatness of 2d games and how we shouldnt give up on them.

  • @EmilyCorradino
    @EmilyCorradino 3 роки тому +2

    I would love a fan made n64 port of mother 3. Not even a restoration of the canceled version. A straight 3d port of the final product.

  • @azulims
    @azulims 3 роки тому +3

    Mother 3 localization at e3 2021 god I hope

  • @figureitoutpunk
    @figureitoutpunk 2 роки тому +1

    Someone find the DEV cartridge NOW! COME ON LETS GET THIS THING COMPLETED OURSELVES, sounds like a majority of the game was done after 6 years this is good news.

  • @chfgn
    @chfgn 2 роки тому +1

    N64 aged like a fine wine. I find it easier to go back to than a lot of stuff on the SNES.

  • @Bkuuzin
    @Bkuuzin 3 роки тому +1

    It sucks that EarthBound 64 had such troubled development. I guess that’s part of making games sometimes.

  • @meroinheroin
    @meroinheroin 2 роки тому +1

    I just beat Mother 3 for the first time on my Switch. I really wasn't expecting it to be the intense emotional experience that it was and it's shot itself up to being one of my favorite games of all time.
    Honestly just wanna give Lucas a hug lol

  • @TheBioMech
    @TheBioMech 26 днів тому

    Dumping Earthbound 64 really would be hitting the motherload of nintendo leaks

  • @chilyguy9905
    @chilyguy9905 3 роки тому +2

    Holy shit that's disgusting

  • @josephboehmer1245
    @josephboehmer1245 3 роки тому +1

    15:29 so... this is just ripped from Stephenvlog without credit? And you expected nobody to notice?

    • @PressStartToContinueYT
      @PressStartToContinueYT  3 роки тому

      did you check the video description? Also, I appreciate the only thing you could manage to comment from a 20+ minute video was about a 15 second clip. Thanks for watching!

  • @zigaudrey
    @zigaudrey 2 роки тому +1

    It's development story like this that make a game great and impactful. The passion and energy they put on and pass through, we don't have this in modern gaming.

  • @AdenTheEldritch
    @AdenTheEldritch 2 роки тому +1

    Lets be honest
    We’re lucky we got the gba version instead of this

  • @paulmuaddib451
    @paulmuaddib451 2 роки тому +2

    This video is extremely underrated and underviewed.

  • @savethedoodle
    @savethedoodle Рік тому

    I remember the 3D hype at the time of N64 so I agree that a 2D platformer would not have succeeded (although I love 2D/2.5D games)

  • @joseluki
    @joseluki 3 місяці тому

    Game spent 6 years on the making and was not even close to be completed, it was the end of the N64 life and devs probably were sent to work on the GC.

  • @ZimtikiBar
    @ZimtikiBar 22 дні тому

    The photo at 1:20 is genuinely haunting. I’m glad the game didn’t look like this.

  • @derekk2732
    @derekk2732 Рік тому

    I’m glad it never got finished, the 2D looks so much better than 3D, the trailers looked like shit and I couldn’t imagine sitting through an entire game of that.

  • @Drdavdq
    @Drdavdq Рік тому

    It would be kinda funny if earthbound 64 gets an official release and then translated before mother 3

  • @KIRB881
    @KIRB881 Рік тому

    If Mother 3 was released on 64 it would mean Lucas would be in Smash Melee instead of Ness

  • @bobo7918
    @bobo7918 Рік тому

    That's just a theory, a GAME THEORY. HARHAR HAR

  • @chris1229sonic
    @chris1229sonic 4 місяці тому

    Maybe the Earthbound 64 was the Mother 3s we made along the way

  • @bust2007
    @bust2007 2 роки тому +1

    In another universe earthbound 3 saved the world

  • @Thor-Orion
    @Thor-Orion 2 роки тому +1

    6:40 I think what he’s trying to say is that he hasn’t even started yet. =P

  • @mopbrothers
    @mopbrothers 11 місяців тому

    Mother 2 will always be the ultimate game Earthbound. Mother 1 is fascinating, but 2 is an Epic. The transition to 3D for a mother game sounded tricky. So glad we have 3 games to look back on. Perfect blend of American and Japanese culture mixed.

  • @Quinhala11
    @Quinhala11 5 місяців тому

    I'd love to know this Mother

  • @aztekno2012
    @aztekno2012 3 роки тому

    Since you're talking about Mother 3, which graphics were "prerendered" in Final Fantasy 3 for the SNES? I know they were for the PS, but the SNES?!

  • @wehttam_1
    @wehttam_1 2 роки тому

    The video background gave ma headache

  • @the_Analogist4011
    @the_Analogist4011 2 роки тому

    the N64 didn't age THAT badly... maybe you're confusing the N64 with the PS1

  • @Vasher-The-Destroyer
    @Vasher-The-Destroyer 2 роки тому

    If Oddity ever comes out
    And is successful I hope they are able to make something like mother 64

  • @jessielefey
    @jessielefey 2 роки тому

    Eh, Iunno, say what you want about the early console 3d era, I'd still argue it aged better than the 2d equivilent. When's the last time *anyone* played an Atarii game? Even things like Space Invaders or Asteroids or Pong have better modern iterations people would play instead. But people still play Mario 64 unmodded and unupdated, ugly or not.

  • @Basswizard69420
    @Basswizard69420 Рік тому

    When you gonna do a Mother 3 video man

  • @NinjaMatt2201
    @NinjaMatt2201 2 роки тому

    Due to technical limitations, a fully 2-D Earthbound 64 wasn't going to happen anyway. Paper Mario was created to use story to explain the problems they were having with the 2-D animations. I don't think the N64 could have done a 2-D Earthbound/Mother. I think, when they made the N64, they were working on a 32-bit console, when they invented a 64 bit processor and just kind of put it in what was otherwise 32-bit hardware, which resulted in huge pixels that made it look ugly. The N64 was made for a very specific purpose and was not very versatile. The camera issues built into the hardware. The Mario 64 camera issues, constantly drifting to the worst angle so you couldn't see where you were going. Zelda: Ocarina of Time invented that targeting button feature to work around the issue. Keep in mind, they had accidentally created their competition from the Sony Playstation when the Nintendo Playstation deal fell through, then there was the failed Philips CD-I deal, so by the time they fell back on cartridge technology to start from scratch making a new console, Sony had a headstart and Nintendo had to rush to cobble something together before the Playstation could beat them too bad. And they still made something great, despite its problems.

  • @Ari-bb3hd
    @Ari-bb3hd 2 роки тому +1

    Damn if this released on the N64 it would be like, the most story heavy game on the console and the best rpg
    Especially considering the lack of N64 RPGs

  • @Nathan-rb3qp
    @Nathan-rb3qp 2 роки тому

    When you said SNES games work so well on the GBA you ended up showing the botched Megaman & Bass port.

  • @AndresFnt
    @AndresFnt 2 роки тому

    So in other words the creator of Mother is incompetent….its why the 1st game was almost not made…the concept was interesting so he was given a chance and he had help to make the first two but with less help his individual value showed to not be as much as some others in the team.

  • @worriorjack
    @worriorjack 2 роки тому

    Earthbound is mids