@RoganRecut really doing the lord’s work here by actually including a timestamp, let alone the episode number. Never thought I’d be grateful for citations, but thank you for the time saved 🙏🙏
"Is it the top speed, or.." It is literally everything. There is not a single way a GT3 car outpaces an F1 car. Edit: A GT3 car is a RACING car. FIA GT3. Road cars are irrelevant. And i said out*pace*. That refers to speed over a racing lap. Comfort, price, gas mileage is all completely irrelevant. I only mentioned PACE.
@@ovs4744 - The only reason an F1 car wouldn't be faster is because of the circuit, and the optimal gearing ratios and varying downforce resulting in a lower top speed. No fucking doubt the engine of an F1 car would still annihilate anything out of a factory if top speed was the only concern.
@@851852093114208513 you’re so clueless it’s insane haha. Top speed has never been the strength of an f1 car, there are literally thousands of production cars that have higher top speeds than an f1 car.
@@KA._.144 downforce creates drag. Drag is the downside of downforce. Power to weight makes a massive difference too. As does tyre size and type. But ultimately at eu rouge at spa... it's downforce which allows the car to plant like that.
@@trn8061 its also the shape of the cars that help them,. being low to the ground, having most its weight down low to the ground, ground effect, downforce, and being lightweight are all factors that help them through eau rouge. the power just helps with how fast they take it.
I really liked the podcast he did with Dale Earnhardt Jr, I hope he gets an F1 driver on but it would probably have to be someone that’s retired, at least from F1, I think David Coulthard would be pretty good.
For those that don't know, it's mainly cornering speed where F1 cars are miles ahead. They can take Eou Rouge at full throttle around 300km/h (200mph). While GT cars have to lift and can maybe do that turn at around 150 or 160mph. (250km/h). Also, at top speed, the weight of F1 cars allow them to reach top speed in seconds.
Well, you're not wrong but it's both breaking ability and cornering speed that makes the difference. The F1 can break much later than a, in this case, a GT3 car. So, it carries the speed longer and takes the corners faster. That's is what makes is faster around a track. The acceleration is almost on par with other racing cars and the top speed is not that impressive either.
@azynkron lol braking is no different. Yeah, they might be able to stop a little sooner, but it has no difference 🤣. WEC cars stop just as quickly as F1 cars 🤣. It's corning speed and acceleration that F1 cars are different buddy.
@azynkron yeah nah. It's all the aerodynamic downforce that F1 cars are able to produce. You get every racing category in the world and get them to Spa-Francorchamps to take on that same section (pit straight - Eau Rouge and through Raidillon) 1 after the other foot flat to the floor, the F1 car will be the only 1 to not leave the track. The rest will be crashed.
@@jorgeyhemi5.7braking is absolutely different considering weight is the KEY element in braking......and the F1 car weighs so much less. Simple physics.
I can imagine professional F1 drivers might accidentally try to take turns in too high speed out of habit while driving normal cars. Like my sister who is a EMT driver, sometimes she drive her private car and I'm sitting beside her " you know you are going 120kmh in a 80 zone right?" And she just " oops, force of habit. "
@@sebastian-ny1sp Actually wrong..F1 drivers are extremely slow drivers and defensive on public roads..it's the turds that don't have any driving skills that are dangerous...and before you get mouthy..i actually race and drive for a living
My favorite memory was having my dad drive a F1 car in 2012 at Barcelona. He still has his paperwork for the receipt for the track timer on his wall, in a photo frame❤️
Driving an F1 car is the most challenging race a person can drive. Just being able to react and make decisions going that fast is insane. The drivers are in a league of their own.
@@mobomediachannel7101 I'd argue different discipline again with that one. Yes you're racing cars in both but the skillset is different even there. WRC is you vs the clock on a course you've never gotten to practice flying by the seat of your pants. F1 is driving multiple laps of a set course that you get to practice and is all about perfection. You still have to think on your feet since you're racing other cars, but it's much more about mastery of the course and your car. I have a huge amount of respect for drivers from both disciplines regardless.
In the early 2000s, I used to go to Montreal for the Grand Prix. I learned the French word for earplugs pretty fast. Then I went to some races in Austin after the change to hybrid. They sounded like lawnmowers the first year after the change. Now they do sound like Honda Civics.
A normal road car can do maybe 1g under braking snd cornering cause that's where the tyres give up, and that already feels like a lot when experience it, but it's nowhere close to race cars, let alone F1
In the actual video, that's Spa Francorchamps, the Eau-Rouge/Raidillon complex, over there you also have compression G, kind of like when a fighter pilot suddenly turns his plane upwards. That's because the car is going uphill at a very steep angle, something like a 200m altitude difference or so. So yeah, there's that as well.
@@zacariasblanco9738he's not even talking about cash , he's talking about the team needed just to launch it lol most need to help driver in and out through the window too
I know an automotive journalist who's had the opportunity to take a couple of F1 cars out on tracks in Europe. He tells me there's literally nothing that can prepare you for it. He himself has basically spent a lifetime raising and he said the first time he couldn't even get the tires up to temperature. So he did a bunch of prep for the second attempt a few years later and you still said that he felt like rank amateurs could have flown past him. Your body becomes part of the braking system. The full force of your leg plus the g-force under braking throwing your body into that pedal and you said he never got over two-thirds brake pressure. Three laps and he said his leg was cramping up. The way they're driven by the pros it looks so smooth but it's a heavy task and it's pretty violent.
Yeah and imagine doing that for 2 hours straight on the absolute limit. People underestimate how much talent and training is involved to even be able to finish the race, let alone do well. On top of all the physically demanding stuff they also need to do so much thinking about strategy, settings of the car, communicating with the engineer etc etc etc.
You actually need the G-Forces to apply enough pressure to the Brake Pedal. It takes a lot of force and you have to keep your head up as the G’s pull your head down during braking as well.
@@einfachabsurd3757 power isn’t the issue, gf cars and f1 kind of have the same power. It’s all weight, get cars a wayyy heavier so they’d need stupid amounts of aero to take corners like f1 cars who are about 1/3 their weight
@@adamcarolan5884 hmm where do you have your info from? Or what Gt class are you talking about? Gt classes have a weightlimit which is around 1100kg. Thats like ~1/3 more than an F1 car. The Porsche 911 Joe is referring to, has around 510 hp and a weight of 1200 kg (not exactly sure if its still that) . That is around half of the power what a F1 car has. And one around 1 third more weight......
...less weight, lower CG, less unsprung mass, higher torsional rigidity, higher down force to total mass ratio, beter power to weight... tge list goes on kids, it isnt so simple
Well there’s a huge difference in power to weight plus downforce. F-1 cars weigh “NOTHING” and have big Hp numbers,plus they don’t have to push a lot of air out in front of it. G forces on the drivers are huge. They have to be in phenomenal shape to do what they do. By the way,That’s the Spa Francochamps circuit in Belgium,one of the fastest tracks on the F-1 circuit.
@@The_Red_Off_Road yeah, that is how little they differ, in terms of power. Moto GP bikes, per pound, are FASTER than F1 cars. But, due to problems in generating downforce in a safe way for both riders and spectators, they are limited in their cornering abilities, unfortunately. But, give it a straight... And they accelerate FASTER and have a better top speed than an F1 car.
Going at the pace of a C-group car, an F1 car couldn’t even maintain optimal tire, or brake, temps. The sheer pace necessary to allow F1 cars to even start working properly is way beyond what most people can process, that’s why the sport is so elite.
Ha ha ha ha ha. The sport is elite because you need to be pretty wealthy to get involved. If it were possible for everybody to compete in f1 probably none of the drivers in it now would be doing it.
@slippin-pr1rp the racing before formula 1 that gets you there draws from a much wider pool of drivers but all of those formula require mummy and daddy to be of a certain minimum level of wealth. So if the state provide your housing in your country of birth, you aren't becoming an f1 driver in all probability
@@MrFinbarz Michael Schumacher enters chat.....working class parents, won his first karting titles in a kart made from used parts rescued from discarded trash. Similar story with Lewis Hamilton, so 2 of the greatest ever F1 drivers came from families with no wealth to speak of.
@krekona6332 yes and their stories are unusual. You are picking out 2 drivers over a span of 30-35years of racing. You don't have a point the reality is that motor racing is a largely inaccessible one unless you are wealthy.
The thing is those GT3 cars are going fast enough to make most people piss their pants, but F1 is even faster still. All incredible cars, but the GT3 cars have so much character you can't help but just love watching them race and hey, I'd like to see an F1 car survive the 24 hour races the GT3 cars can do.
THIS is why I love Racing! This is also why I love Joe Rogan. Driving a fast car, fast, is pure adrenaline. Both of these types of racing is way better than NASCAR. This is what adrenaline looks like. Thank you.
That’s one of the best series of turns in all of racing Eau Rouge at Spa. F1 cars generally take it flat out while other spec cars might have to lift to stay on track depending on the allowed level of downforce.
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LMx (prototypes) could also go flat out or light lift and no downshift
I remember a friend of my dad, who was a huge NASCAR fan, say something to my dad along the lines of "Well Richard Petty in his prime would run circles around one of them there F-1 cars." My dad loves NASCAR too, but he lives in reality. He responded, "You have got to be kidding. An F-1 car would LAP a NASCAR within 5 laps. They have way more horsepower AND weigh a lot less, are lower to the ground and have far superior aerodynamics. They are not in the same zipcode."
Aston Martin Vantage und Mercedes AMG GT Black Series are the safety cars in the F1. The drivers always complain about them going to slow when they are on the track because they need the air to cool down the engine, the F1 cars basically overheat when driven to slow...
100% imagine if they would build a car with no rules with today's knowledge the driver would probably be the limiting factor. The G's that thing would be pulling would probably knock the driver out or at the very least would prevent him to make the proper adjustments on the wheel.
Just recently, Jimmy Broadbent uploaded a video of his adventure racing at the Nurburgring, he was racing a very fast BMW, but the GT3 cars were still flying past him like he was standing still. And it is mindblowing the fact that F1 cars make GT3 cars feel like they are standing still even at full speed.
@HALTSMAULALLLER why should anybody be quiet? Joe Rogan is one of the stupidest men to walk the earth. Regardless of how long he may or may not have been driving.
@@captainlangusteTamburello “curve” at Imola, where Senna died. I raced there under the water in 2012 and it was frightening but so satisfying at same time.
@@captainlangusteAscari Monza, Tamburello Monza, T3 Watkins Glen, Final turn at Le Mans, Caroussell Nurburgring, Brands Hatch T5, Zolder (sector 2). I can go on if you want. Reason Spa is so dangerous is because of the weather conditions. Blind corner full throttle + damp track is asking for problems. Especially with ground effect downforce.
nah, it feels like driving in that beat up Miata that was thrown in the garage, because two cylinders were failing. It becomes boring, specially when you have that many bad drivers around you, to the point of becoming dangerous FOR YOU, not for the public.
Try lapping the same track and then seeing the time different, now that is mind blowing. I'm NO pro but been portimao on bike a lot of times, my fastest lap on an R1 is 1:53, now a MotoGP bike(the F1 of bikes) does that same lap in 1:37:23. An F1 car however does it in..... 1:16:47!!! I have no idea how it is possible haha
@antonsundin2974 @YEEYEE-dy8tk @connorbaz5980 @jt5765 I get the 4 wheels and downforce thing but what I'm saying is, actually riding th track THEN seeing these things is the mindblowing part, it's that appreciation of how fast they are actually going around something you've tried to be fast on, if you get what I'm saying. Oh and for 4 wheels times the winner of the 24hr endurance series did a best of 1:32.378.
Tehy did one with Michael Schumacher, he literally sat down for a cup of coffee and a quick read on the newspaper, then gets up, put on gloves and helmet, mechanics starts the car, and he waits like, 10 seconds before he actually starts... And crosses the finish line in front of the other Ferrari street cars, competition cars, and some Fiats.
you know, rally cars nowadays intentionally have low power (380 hp or 500 with electric boost) so they aren't as dangerous as they used to be back in Group B era
@@naufalkusumah2192it helps the fans don't stand in the middle of the damn course as much as they used to 😂, what a time that must have been. I could listen to the S1 Quattro like people do white noise.
You can see all of Eau Rouge in this video. You can not see all of Raidillon in this video. There is no turn at Spa named "radillion". @@reverseengineeredbot3387
@@reverseengineeredbot3387 lol fair enough but there are still some people in this world that believe your joke is fact its all gravy enjoy the rest of your day
@@f1-magboth you brilliant bastards need to check out a car called the Mcmurtry Speirling if you haven't already. Forget in theory. That car can definitely go upside down in a tunnel. Due to its fan system it can generate 2 tonnes of downforce even at 0km/h. The same amount of downforce an F1 car produces at 200+ mph Bonkers I hear you say? You're damn right!
It’s in every aspect that an F1 car is faster than a Porsche GT3 . Top speed , acceleration both standing start and rolling in gears , braking , cornering , grip , aero package and it’s by a huge margin in all categories .
Joe be like u ever hear a gt car with a bear chasing a rabbit in a f1 car screaming around circuit. proceed to make bear, gt car, f1 car, and rabbit noises😂
When people don’t realize that you have to train like a jet pilot to drive one of those. The amount of sheer g force would knock a regular human out at turn 1
Well, no, because you would likely stall it before you even got to turn one. Even Richard Hammond couldn't drive the F1 car fast enough to keep the tyres and brakes up to temp and his job was driving fast cars, and he holds the British land speed record.
@@WayStedYou Good example! Of course there are era's of f1 cars and certain one's would be easier to operate than others but on all of them normal humans would not be able to make this car work anywhere close to it's limit. Tricky thing about these cars is that they need to be driven on the limit for them to even work properly like you said. Need to go fast enough to cool the car properly, brake hard enough to heat them properly, turn hard enough to get the tires up to temperature and get them to even work. It's either driving super slow at like 10% speed or 95% at minimum to make these even work. On top of that you would need to do huge amounts of studying to figure out even the most basic settings you'd need on the steering wheel to get around the track properly. Yeah driving one of these is A LOT more harder than most people can even begin to understand.
@@f1-mag constantly being thrown around by g force when turning and extreme pressure to keep the car fast enough so they have enough downforce to turn id say its pretty similar but obviously in different category
Thank you for clearing up what they said in the video. Really needed you to do that. Got confused when they were talking about the difference. Who would have known that they were comparing 2 different classes without you telling us. Thank you so much. Smart guy.
From JRE #1695 with Andrew Schulz.
Timestamp: [01:46:00].
Feel like rogan needs to pop 1 in an F1 😅
What a g
This is what should happen every time someone posts a clip of something. 👏👏👏👍
@RoganRecut really doing the lord’s work here by actually including a timestamp, let alone the episode number. Never thought I’d be grateful for citations, but thank you for the time saved 🙏🙏
F1 is complete shit in comparison to what it could be without regulations.
Huh, he doesn't just make animal noises
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Yeah, he makes vroom-vroom noises too.
Is it top speed or? It's a fcking turn no it's not top speed
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F1 car is an animal for going that quick
There’s a big difference between $18 million and $430,000
Hahahaha, 18 million? the engine is 10-12 million already... :'D
It's probably a lot more when you factor in how much those teams spend to design, and improve on machines.
Probably 100million
An F1 car is worth between 1.5 and 3 million dollars. The development however is more than 100 million.
@@Tony11442the engine is about 14 million
"Is it the top speed, or.."
It is literally everything. There is not a single way a GT3 car outpaces an F1 car.
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A GT3 car is a RACING car. FIA GT3. Road cars are irrelevant. And i said out*pace*. That refers to speed over a racing lap. Comfort, price, gas mileage is all completely irrelevant. I only mentioned PACE.
Yes they do in top speed
@@ovs4744 GT3 cars top out around 275 kph, F1 cars depending on the track are at least 325 kph.
@@diplomatofthesosbrigade931 GT3 cars have been going 300kph+ for the past 15 years, you seem very clueless about this subject lol.
@@ovs4744 - The only reason an F1 car wouldn't be faster is because of the circuit, and the optimal gearing ratios and varying downforce resulting in a lower top speed. No fucking doubt the engine of an F1 car would still annihilate anything out of a factory if top speed was the only concern.
@@851852093114208513 you’re so clueless it’s insane haha. Top speed has never been the strength of an f1 car, there are literally thousands of production cars that have higher top speeds than an f1 car.
Jamie, pull up the clip of that bear driving an F1 car
This is what I came here for
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Downforce baby...downforce.
Being a quarter of the weight of the GT car also helps a lil bit
having the most aerodynamic possible shape helps too
@@KA._.144 downforce creates drag. Drag is the downside of downforce. Power to weight makes a massive difference too. As does tyre size and type. But ultimately at eu rouge at spa... it's downforce which allows the car to plant like that.
@@trn8061 its also the shape of the cars that help them,. being low to the ground, having most its weight down low to the ground, ground effect, downforce, and being lightweight are all factors that help them through eau rouge. the power just helps with how fast they take it.
@@KA._.144 you just said what I said in a different way. 🤣
Joe has to get an F1 driver on. He’s into fitness and so many people are unaware the level of fitness and mental strength it takes to drive an f1 car
Yes I don't think Joe has been stupid at an F1 driver yet.
I really liked the podcast he did with Dale Earnhardt Jr, I hope he gets an F1 driver on but it would probably have to be someone that’s retired, at least from F1, I think David Coulthard would be pretty good.
lol no thanks
The wild part is,many of them are skinny 🤣🤣🤣
@@hikedeco9749weight reduction my dude
Jamie, pull up the video of that grizzly bear driving an f1 car
For those that don't know, it's mainly cornering speed where F1 cars are miles ahead. They can take Eou Rouge at full throttle around 300km/h (200mph). While GT cars have to lift and can maybe do that turn at around 150 or 160mph. (250km/h). Also, at top speed, the weight of F1 cars allow them to reach top speed in seconds.
Well, you're not wrong but it's both breaking ability and cornering speed that makes the difference. The F1 can break much later than a, in this case, a GT3 car. So, it carries the speed longer and takes the corners faster. That's is what makes is faster around a track.
The acceleration is almost on par with other racing cars and the top speed is not that impressive either.
@azynkron lol braking is no different. Yeah, they might be able to stop a little sooner, but it has no difference 🤣. WEC cars stop just as quickly as F1 cars 🤣. It's corning speed and acceleration that F1 cars are different buddy.
@azynkron yeah nah. It's all the aerodynamic downforce that F1 cars are able to produce. You get every racing category in the world and get them to Spa-Francorchamps to take on that same section (pit straight - Eau Rouge and through Raidillon) 1 after the other foot flat to the floor, the F1 car will be the only 1 to not leave the track. The rest will be crashed.
Speak for yourself. I'm flat out on Eau Rouge...
...in ACC.
@@jorgeyhemi5.7braking is absolutely different considering weight is the KEY element in braking......and the F1 car weighs so much less. Simple physics.
“Jamie, pull up that video of a bear fighting an F1 car"
And here it is. That dumbass "pull up a bear video Jamie" comment. What a comedic genius you are.
I heard that F1 Carl is insane
Unfunny and unoriginal bozo
Hahahaha
The second this reel came on i knew this comment exists
In the V10 era you could hear the cars from 5+ miles away
Now that gets me wet (im a dude)
I used to live 9 miles from Silverstone and you'd hear them every now and again when conditions were right
Watching races during that era was painful. I went to the inaugural F1 race at COTA and was so grateful I’d brought ear plugs with me
@@kabob21 COTA didn't exist during the F1 V10 era. The V8 era was in its penultimate season during 2012 when the COTA opened.
@@kabob21so what changed? Are they not that loud these days?
Imma a rookie, don't know shit nut I'm bery curious to know.
That's comparing a jet fighter to a dump truck.
An F1 car has enough downforce at certain speeds that it could theoretically drive upside-down without falling to the ground.
That would be up force!!
That's what an F1 car is all about. It's not the fastest car in a straight line, it's that it can go so fast through turns because of the downforce.
I can imagine professional F1 drivers might accidentally try to take turns in too high speed out of habit while driving normal cars.
Like my sister who is a EMT driver, sometimes she drive her private car and I'm sitting beside her " you know you are going 120kmh in a 80 zone right?" And she just " oops, force of habit. "
@@sebastian-ny1sp Actually wrong..F1 drivers are extremely slow drivers and defensive on public roads..it's the turds that don't have any driving skills that are dangerous...and before you get mouthy..i actually race and drive for a living
It's still second fastest in a straight line , they're can still hit 250mph there's notary cars faster than it in a straight line
THANK YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT. MUCH KNOWLEDGE.
@@sebastian-ny1spDoes she blow through stop lights too?
Took my dad to watch F1 live in Barcelona 2001. One of my best memories with him
The noise back then was truly incredible
Earplugs!!! Does not matter how much we like the sound. In that time you needed earplugs.
Once I went to the Shamrock with my shared brother but you don't hear me banging on about it.
A lot of heartbrwak during that race though. Eventhough i was a schumacher fan, hakkinen deserved that race.
My favorite memory was having my dad drive a F1 car in 2012 at Barcelona. He still has his paperwork for the receipt for the track timer on his wall, in a photo frame❤️
Driving an F1 car is the most challenging race a person can drive. Just being able to react and make decisions going that fast is insane. The drivers are in a league of their own.
Supercross and motocross and motogp are far more challenging.
@@BrandonWatkins614 Those are all motorcycle racing series. I don't think racing cars is comparable to racing motorcycles. It's a different skill set.
WRC takes the cake for me.
@@mobomediachannel7101 I'd argue different discipline again with that one. Yes you're racing cars in both but the skillset is different even there. WRC is you vs the clock on a course you've never gotten to practice flying by the seat of your pants. F1 is driving multiple laps of a set course that you get to practice and is all about perfection. You still have to think on your feet since you're racing other cars, but it's much more about mastery of the course and your car.
I have a huge amount of respect for drivers from both disciplines regardless.
@BrandonWatkins614 you don't drive a bike, though, do you?
"Wiunnnnn weunnnnnn"
Well said Joe Rogan, well said
“Now a GT car is like a chimp, but F1 is like a bear on DMT”
Nah F1 is more like a cheetah on acid
More like a lion on lethal doses of cocaine and a bad case of high blood pressure.
Hahahahaha
Now GT cars is like a chimp , " but F1 is like a silver back Gorilla ERRRHHHHUUUuuu !!!"
Now I don't know much about cars but this analogy I can understand
It's a pity the F1 cars have lost their iconic scream
You would be surprised in person they still very much scream.
@@vashisl33t
Didn't they lower the V6 volume for regulation?
Yup! They sound like honda civics now.
In the early 2000s, I used to go to Montreal for the Grand Prix. I learned the French word for earplugs pretty fast. Then I went to some races in Austin after the change to hybrid. They sounded like lawnmowers the first year after the change. Now they do sound like Honda Civics.
@@vashisl33t Yeah because they were allowed to rev them higher - and that was because everyone at the track, even FOM thought its too quiet :D
Jamie, pull up that video of a Grizzly chasing an F1 car
Grandma hug vs Bear hug. That F1 car is hugging the ground like it is apart of it. The skills you need to drive a car like that is insane
Lateral 6 G and up to 5 G on braking. This is where they shine most.
The w11 could spike 6g under braking
A normal road car can do maybe 1g under braking snd cornering cause that's where the tyres give up, and that already feels like a lot when experience it, but it's nowhere close to race cars, let alone F1
To endure that amount of G force consistently, it must take its toll on the human body.
@@carterjones8126 for an average person yes but for f1 drivers no
In the actual video, that's Spa Francorchamps, the Eau-Rouge/Raidillon complex, over there you also have compression G, kind of like when a fighter pilot suddenly turns his plane upwards.
That's because the car is going uphill at a very steep angle, something like a 200m altitude difference or so.
So yeah, there's that as well.
One requires just one person to start it, while the other requires a whole country just to keep it running 😂.
Have you seen GT cars in person? He isn’t just talking about a normal 911 GT3, they are full on race cars too that need a lot of upkeep.
@James_Carabajal any modified non production vehicle is a money pit
@@zacariasblanco9738he's not even talking about cash , he's talking about the team needed just to launch it lol most need to help driver in and out through the window too
@@christophergallagher3845 ok Dale enhart Jr
@christophergallagher3845 I need a helping hand when I'm watching redtube you know waiting for the money shot lol. O wait who's talking cash ...
Jamie, pull up the video of a bear fighting an F1 car
Jamie, pull out the video of a bear driving an F1.
I know an automotive journalist who's had the opportunity to take a couple of F1 cars out on tracks in Europe. He tells me there's literally nothing that can prepare you for it. He himself has basically spent a lifetime raising and he said the first time he couldn't even get the tires up to temperature. So he did a bunch of prep for the second attempt a few years later and you still said that he felt like rank amateurs could have flown past him. Your body becomes part of the braking system. The full force of your leg plus the g-force under braking throwing your body into that pedal and you said he never got over two-thirds brake pressure. Three laps and he said his leg was cramping up. The way they're driven by the pros it looks so smooth but it's a heavy task and it's pretty violent.
Yeah and imagine doing that for 2 hours straight on the absolute limit. People underestimate how much talent and training is involved to even be able to finish the race, let alone do well. On top of all the physically demanding stuff they also need to do so much thinking about strategy, settings of the car, communicating with the engineer etc etc etc.
The forces on the neck are unimaginable. One's lungs feel the strain under braking. :o
We can make them go faster & stop quicker, but it would probably kill you. Que up boys
I could only imagine wow .😊
You actually need the G-Forces to apply enough pressure to the Brake Pedal. It takes a lot of force and you have to keep your head up as the G’s pull your head down during braking as well.
Basically 2 F1 cars made that turn in the time that it took 1 GT car to make that turn!!! DOWNFORCE BABY😂😂😂!!!
The gt1 cars could be running more downforce than the f1. It’s weight that’s the real issue
@adamcarolan5884 and how would they do that?
Power is also an issue
@@einfachabsurd3757 power isn’t the issue, gf cars and f1 kind of have the same power. It’s all weight, get cars a wayyy heavier so they’d need stupid amounts of aero to take corners like f1 cars who are about 1/3 their weight
@@adamcarolan5884 hmm where do you have your info from? Or what Gt class are you talking about?
Gt classes have a weightlimit which is around 1100kg. Thats like ~1/3 more than an F1 car.
The Porsche 911 Joe is referring to, has around 510 hp and a weight of 1200 kg (not exactly sure if its still that) .
That is around half of the power what a F1 car has. And one around 1 third more weight......
...less weight, lower CG, less unsprung mass, higher torsional rigidity, higher down force to total mass ratio, beter power to weight... tge list goes on kids, it isnt so simple
Well there’s a huge difference in power to weight plus downforce. F-1 cars weigh “NOTHING” and have big Hp numbers,plus they don’t have to push a lot of air out in front of it. G forces on the drivers are huge. They have to be in phenomenal shape to do what they do. By the way,That’s the Spa Francochamps circuit in Belgium,one of the fastest tracks on the F-1 circuit.
Jamie pull up the video of a bear driving an F1 car
Jamie pull up that video of that bear racing a F1 car
how original, great joke
When will the unoriginal bear & varsity athlete jokes stop? You couldn't be more unoriginal.
That’s the point
that must be the closest thing to a fighter jet that you can feel while still being on the ground lmao
Well, there is in fact a video where a jet races an F1 car on this very website.... A motorcycle wins.
@@uncoiledfish2561 That video is just all about acceleration.
@@uncoiledfish2561 yeah, motorbike wins for about 5 seconds then it gets blitzed by the F1 car
what?
F1 cars have more in common with aircraft than with road cars, even supercars.
Eau Rouge, the finest section in F1
Jamie pull up that clip of the bear driving an F-1
“Have you ever seen the comparison between a fast car and an extremely fast car?”
F1 cars speed advantage is round corners not straight line speed
@@ibrahimc8334 Glad you got that off your chest
@@boscoblackDam you’re miserable lmaoo. 😂😂😂
@@AsuraTraitorr I’m gonna write “lmao” and use a bunch of emojis to convince myself what I wrote is funny 🤣🤣🤣 - You
@@AsuraTraitorrhahah 😆
Fun fact:
If you could build an upside down roadway, an F1 “car” could drive on it.
Yep. At speeds that any street car can achieve: 140km/h.
@@sombraarthur I didn’t know that was all that was needed. Interesting.
@@The_Red_Off_Road yeah, that is how little they differ, in terms of power. Moto GP bikes, per pound, are FASTER than F1 cars. But, due to problems in generating downforce in a safe way for both riders and spectators, they are limited in their cornering abilities, unfortunately. But, give it a straight... And they accelerate FASTER and have a better top speed than an F1 car.
Actually they couldn't. The engine doesn't work upside down.
@@brinkipinki actually they COULD. Keyword there. An engine that can run upside down is easy to build.
Jamie, pull up the video of the grizzly bear driving the F1 car...
“Jamie, pull up that video of a eating an F1 car”
Jamie - Bring up the video of a bear driving an F1 car. Grrrrawl!
Yawn
I was looking specifically for this comment😂😂
Jamie- bring up the video of that lazy unoriginal comment
@@tylerw9529you’re the one that clicked on the comment. Eat a snickers. You’re not you when you’re hungry
@@tylerw9529Why does it bother you? Scroll past if it hurts your wittle feewings
Jaime, pull up that video of max Verstappen going nuts and going backwards at eau rouge
It was NOT Max Verstappen, it was David Coulthard!
@@dianamaioru497sorry. I'll fix it rn
@@dianamaioru497 you mean this video? ua-cam.com/users/shortsazNhlzcOQ54?si=-2NhlNJSnm16Q5-U
@@dianamaioru497 Nah it was Max mate, you can see his helmet and number on the RBR video
You can change it back to Max Verstappen
Jamie, pull up the clip of a bear racing an F1 car
F1 car sounds like a cat smoking a cuban cigar 😂😂😂.
Going at the pace of a C-group car, an F1 car couldn’t even maintain optimal tire, or brake, temps. The sheer pace necessary to allow F1 cars to even start working properly is way beyond what most people can process, that’s why the sport is so elite.
Ha ha ha ha ha. The sport is elite because you need to be pretty wealthy to get involved. If it were possible for everybody to compete in f1 probably none of the drivers in it now would be doing it.
@MrFinbarz Maybe, then again, maybe not. Practice makes perfect and only 20 people a year get to practice regardless of the cost of entery
@slippin-pr1rp the racing before formula 1 that gets you there draws from a much wider pool of drivers but all of those formula require mummy and daddy to be of a certain minimum level of wealth. So if the state provide your housing in your country of birth, you aren't becoming an f1 driver in all probability
@@MrFinbarz Michael Schumacher enters chat.....working class parents, won his first karting titles in a kart made from used parts rescued from discarded trash. Similar story with Lewis Hamilton, so 2 of the greatest ever F1 drivers came from families with no wealth to speak of.
@krekona6332 yes and their stories are unusual. You are picking out 2 drivers over a span of 30-35years of racing. You don't have a point the reality is that motor racing is a largely inaccessible one unless you are wealthy.
People forget how fast a F1 car really goes
The thing is those GT3 cars are going fast enough to make most people piss their pants, but F1 is even faster still. All incredible cars, but the GT3 cars have so much character you can't help but just love watching them race and hey, I'd like to see an F1 car survive the 24 hour races the GT3 cars can do.
Indy cars are faster but F1 is fast around corners.
lmp1 would be a better comparison. if they werent geared towards endurance they would be damn near close to f1.
It’s not about speed, it’s about downforce mostly.
An f1 car can go much faster than an indy car if it's geared for a Nascar track and down force reduced. They make more power and weigh less
Joe "Pull up the video with the polar bear driving an F1 car" Rogan 😂😂
THIS is why I love Racing! This is also why I love Joe Rogan. Driving a fast car, fast, is pure adrenaline. Both of these types of racing is way better than NASCAR. This is what adrenaline looks like. Thank you.
That’s one of the best series of turns in all of racing
Eau Rouge at Spa.
F1 cars generally take it flat out while other spec cars might have to lift to stay on track depending on the allowed level of downforce.
LMx (prototypes) could also go flat out or light lift and no downshift
I’m actually it is radillion 🤓🤓
Gt cars go flat out usually
@@jonah3236it’s both
It’s flat on a gt3
Well thats why F1 drivers are called pilots 😂
Who calls them pilots? 😂
Everyone who's informed@@tehontuoksuinenpulla9504
Every Italian, Hungarian and possibly more that I just don't know of.
I see in that name Eindhoven so it seems the Dutch As well.
They should show the difference through Monaco's swimming pool section.
“Jamie, look up a bear racing a F1 Car”
Two completely different animals. Its like high school baseball vs major league baseball.
Bad analogy, more like.. comparing my right nut to my left nut, both immaculate, but ones just bigger than the other
I remember a friend of my dad, who was a huge NASCAR fan, say something to my dad along the lines of "Well Richard Petty in his prime would run circles around one of them there F-1 cars." My dad loves NASCAR too, but he lives in reality. He responded, "You have got to be kidding. An F-1 car would LAP a NASCAR within 5 laps. They have way more horsepower AND weigh a lot less, are lower to the ground and have far superior aerodynamics. They are not in the same zipcode."
In the 60s they absolutely didn't lol as far as driver vs driver edwards spanked Schumacher lol
…Until he has to make a right
@@hacksawjimthuggin7411??
joe the type of dude to hear a new sound and repeat it until its commited to memory
“Jamie pull up that video of a bear driving a f1 car”
Aston Martin Vantage und Mercedes AMG GT Black Series are the safety cars in the F1. The drivers always complain about them going to slow when they are on the track because they need the air to cool down the engine, the F1 cars basically overheat when driven to slow...
And those F1 cars have been slowed by rules of the sport.... Without those rules those cars can go faster than what a human could control safely
100% imagine if they would build a car with no rules with today's knowledge the driver would probably be the limiting factor. The G's that thing would be pulling would probably knock the driver out or at the very least would prevent him to make the proper adjustments on the wheel.
Just recently, Jimmy Broadbent uploaded a video of his adventure racing at the Nurburgring, he was racing a very fast BMW, but the GT3 cars were still flying past him like he was standing still. And it is mindblowing the fact that F1 cars make GT3 cars feel like they are standing still even at full speed.
Jamie, pull up the video of the bear driving an F1 car.
F1 cars are the pinnacle of Motorsport. You can’t go faster around a track in anything.
Bro discovered aerodynamics by the age of 60 😂
I'd like to see how a bear would match up. Jamie pull up that video of that bear running around the circuit.
The audacity to think u can drive one of those F1 cars in that manner
Wait until he discovers the WRC
Wait until you get brains.
And not even close to this.
Jamie pull up that video of a F1 car racing a grizzly bear
Jamie pull up some new jokes for the fans to use cuz the bear ones are old af
Red Bull actually did that with a Cheetah
Joe Rogan needs to be a sound effects guy 😂
" Jamie, bring up that video of a grizzley bear driving an F-1 car ".
Joe Rogan discovers weight and downforce colorized
And drag
he owns fast cars for over 30 years kiddie. just be quiet
Better engine
@@HALTSMAULALLLEROwning doesn't equal mastering.
@HALTSMAULALLLER why should anybody be quiet? Joe Rogan is one of the stupidest men to walk the earth. Regardless of how long he may or may not have been driving.
You know, joe sure knows how to live.
That he does.
I never knew the song was written about Joe Rogan
It’s called downforce and cornering. That’s the difference
The F1 from the 80's 90's were the untamed animals! Now a days they are castrated caged animals!
Greatest corner series in racing! raidillon de l'eau rouge!!
Yeah... Is there another corner in which more people died? Real greatness, but it's kind of an achievement too I guess
@@captainlangusteTamburello “curve” at Imola, where Senna died.
I raced there under the water in 2012 and it was frightening but so satisfying at same time.
@@captainlangusteAscari Monza, Tamburello Monza, T3 Watkins Glen, Final turn at Le Mans, Caroussell Nurburgring, Brands Hatch T5, Zolder (sector 2). I can go on if you want. Reason Spa is so dangerous is because of the weather conditions. Blind corner full throttle + damp track is asking for problems. Especially with ground effect downforce.
I wasn't ready for the sound effect 🤣🤣🤣
The difference is that they’re turning is a lot efficient compared to a car like a 911
Fast? Wait till you see a bear charging at you
After driving a Formula One car on circuit driving regular cars probably feels like you’re always on the snow or wet roads or something lol.
Most f1 drivers don't like driving
nah, it feels like driving in that beat up Miata that was thrown in the garage, because two cylinders were failing. It becomes boring, specially when you have that many bad drivers around you, to the point of becoming dangerous FOR YOU, not for the public.
"Have you ever seen what a bear could do to a GT car? Jamie, pull that up."
30 minutes into a blunt: : : Hey man ! 😂
Joe is multi talent guy he simply can make noise effects of practically anything 👏
Joe Rogan discovered that cars can also turn right 😂
You dumbed that down a lot.
IMAGINE THE FEELING OF A F1 DRIVER IN A REGULAR CAR IN A TRAFFIC !😮😅😂
Its the downforce that makes the difference
GT stands for GRAND TOURING for a reason..
Try lapping the same track and then seeing the time different, now that is mind blowing. I'm NO pro but been portimao on bike a lot of times, my fastest lap on an R1 is 1:53, now a MotoGP bike(the F1 of bikes) does that same lap in 1:37:23. An F1 car however does it in..... 1:16:47!!! I have no idea how it is possible haha
Downforce baby
It has 4 wheels instead of 2 lol
Downforce... 😎
Downforce & 4 wheels for grip 🤷♂️
@antonsundin2974 @YEEYEE-dy8tk @connorbaz5980 @jt5765 I get the 4 wheels and downforce thing but what I'm saying is, actually riding th track THEN seeing these things is the mindblowing part, it's that appreciation of how fast they are actually going around something you've tried to be fast on, if you get what I'm saying. Oh and for 4 wheels times the winner of the 24hr endurance series did a best of 1:32.378.
"Jamie, pull up that video of a grizzly bear driving an f1 car."
"You get used to that" could not have said it better.
The best comparison is when they do the lap around a track with the regular car, GT car and an f1 car and the f1 car leaves like 30 seconds later lol
Tehy did one with Michael Schumacher, he literally sat down for a cup of coffee and a quick read on the newspaper, then gets up, put on gloves and helmet, mechanics starts the car, and he waits like, 10 seconds before he actually starts... And crosses the finish line in front of the other Ferrari street cars, competition cars, and some Fiats.
You seen that kid in New Zealand that built his own WRC race car with an Indy motor. He is 19 at the time. His car is Scary fast. Gotta check it out
Link
you know, rally cars nowadays intentionally have low power (380 hp or 500 with electric boost) so they aren't as dangerous as they used to be back in Group B era
@@naufalkusumah2192it helps the fans don't stand in the middle of the damn course as much as they used to 😂, what a time that must have been. I could listen to the S1 Quattro like people do white noise.
F1 cars through Eau Rouge 😍
Thats radillion actually
You can see all of Eau Rouge in this video. You can not see all of Raidillon in this video. There is no turn at Spa named "radillion". @@reverseengineeredbot3387
@@reverseengineeredbot3387Raidillon is the left kink at the top of the hill which you can’t see in the video it’s Eau Rouge
@@greenthumb6971 i know was just making a joke
@@reverseengineeredbot3387 lol fair enough but there are still some people in this world that believe your joke is fact its all gravy enjoy the rest of your day
“Google that F1 car just about getting away from that Grizzly”
A GT car is absolutely nothing like a 911 GT3
It's incredible how much JR relates to all his followers.......
Just remember, an F1 car can go upside down
In theory
@@f1-magboth you brilliant bastards need to check out a car called the Mcmurtry Speirling if you haven't already.
Forget in theory. That car can definitely go upside down in a tunnel. Due to its fan system it can generate 2 tonnes of downforce even at 0km/h. The same amount of downforce an F1 car produces at 200+ mph
Bonkers I hear you say? You're damn right!
It’s in every aspect that an F1 car is faster than a Porsche GT3 . Top speed , acceleration both standing start and rolling in gears , braking , cornering , grip , aero package and it’s by a huge margin in all categories .
Joe be like u ever hear a gt car with a bear chasing a rabbit in a f1 car screaming around circuit. proceed to make bear, gt car, f1 car, and rabbit noises😂
When people don’t realize that you have to train like a jet pilot to drive one of those. The amount of sheer g force would knock a regular human out at turn 1
Well, no, because you would likely stall it before you even got to turn one.
Even Richard Hammond couldn't drive the F1 car fast enough to keep the tyres and brakes up to temp and his job was driving fast cars, and he holds the British land speed record.
@@WayStedYou Good example! Of course there are era's of f1 cars and certain one's would be easier to operate than others but on all of them normal humans would not be able to make this car work anywhere close to it's limit. Tricky thing about these cars is that they need to be driven on the limit for them to even work properly like you said. Need to go fast enough to cool the car properly, brake hard enough to heat them properly, turn hard enough to get the tires up to temperature and get them to even work. It's either driving super slow at like 10% speed or 95% at minimum to make these even work. On top of that you would need to do huge amounts of studying to figure out even the most basic settings you'd need on the steering wheel to get around the track properly. Yeah driving one of these is A LOT more harder than most people can even begin to understand.
Jet pilots have nothing on these guy’s tho
@@f1-mag constantly being thrown around by g force when turning and extreme pressure to keep the car fast enough so they have enough downforce to turn
id say its pretty similar but obviously in different category
Jamie, pull up that video of a bear beating Verstappen in the Monaco Grand prix
All the bear needs is to be in front and he could just kind of walk around the track with a bit of a zig zag and he should be fine.
@@TangoNevadaDid you just assume that bear's gender??
@@fuzzluvver69 Yep
“Jamie pullup that video bear driving f1 car
And now imagine with todays technology V10 F1 cars
No shit. 2 different classes.
Thank you for clearing up what they said in the video. Really needed you to do that. Got confused when they were talking about the difference. Who would have known that they were comparing 2 different classes without you telling us. Thank you so much. Smart guy.
Jamie, pull up a video of a gt car vs a grizzly bear .. !!😂
"Jamie pull up the video of a grizzly bear driving an F1 car"