@Ricardo Tracker in the Ending when you hear him talking with ocelot, he says that he'll help the new bigboss and David(solid snake) when he grows up and that the og bigboss can go to hell.
@@ricardotracker4047 I know it's revealed at the END when it reveals Ocelots and Kaz's Convo, but when you rescue Kaz in the beginning, he has ONE swollen eye, and the other is coloured perfectly fine. Then somehow, at the end, they're gray. However, with his one good eye, Snake yanks the bag of Kaz's head, and he looks at him and says "No more use for me huh..?" And then snake says "Kaz it's me....!" And he's all "..... Snake...?"
The Boss's horse dies in Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker after helping Snake chase after the Peace Walker and failing to cross the border wall. The horse was based off of a statue near the hospital.
@@splashor6361 Why do you think his name is really John? He said that his name is John only 2 times, first while joking with paramedic that his name is John Doe (which is "placeholder name" for a man whose name you don't know) and she responded with Jane Doe (a female counterpart) and the second time when he said to Ocelot that his name is John which can be taken as a reference to a joke between paramedic and Snake that happened previously. Zero called him Jack in the beginning of the game before using codenames and Boss called him Jack all the time from MGS3 through Peace Walker as a mammal pod and in MGSV and never used John, I think that she should have used John at least once if that's his real name. Name John is brought up 2 times and name Jack is being used all the time by the Boss but somehow people still think that his name is John?? Also I find it even more reasonable that his name is Jack if we consider that Raiden's name is Jack and we literally have his mask in the game, Kojima tricked us again by giving us Jack again and not David and never gave us the same David again hahah Also I doubt that Kojima would just name him John as if his last name is Rambo XD I forgot to say that I know that his name in MGSPO+ is John if you take the Naked Naked Snake skin but I think that that's just a joke because all the other characters from MGS3 in that game have codenames and his name is just "JOHN", why isn't paramedic then "DR.CLARK" hahah? Or even better just "JANE" bruh.
@@masnidebelicrnac Ocelot refers to him as John and I feel like he would've been corrected at some point if he was being lied to. Jack is also a nickname for John. The Wikia also says his name is John so the general consensus is that he is really named John.
there's a cassette tape where ocelot talks about eli/liquid's dna results, he says it's nothing to worry about and venom is in no way related to eli. foreshadowing the ending even more
@@Starphx Thats not that good of a clue since in the same scene you're referring to, Ocelot explains it away for the audience that "That chunk of metal in your head must have damaged the language center of your brain... Speaking anything other than English might be off the table. We'll see about getting a skilled interpreter who can translate for you in real time in the field"
@@razorswisherhe was complemented on how insanely fluent he was in figured he would have atleast remembered a few important words regarding espionage like the word location prisoner enemy dead etc
@@razorswisherThat doesn't make much sense. He was just making something up to not blow the cover on the whole operation. And yea, making sense in a Kojima game can be difficult but even Kojima knows that the likelihood of some shrapnel randomly flying at high speed into one's skull and only perfectly cutting off the foreign language skills is not very realistic.
The reason why Volgin knew he wasn’t big boss is because Big boss has blue eyes and venom snake has green eyes. In mgs3 volgin said something along the lines of “I hate those blue eyes of your.” Volgin remembered snakes eye color from the interrogation scene in snake eater. That’s how much he hates Big boss.
@@olucaspc He has green eyes. Naked has blue eyes. However in game venom is brainwashed to think he is Big boss. That’s why in the hospital it’s clear his eyes are green but after words in game his eyes are blue. Your seeing your own character through the eyes of a man who is brainwashed to believe he is the big boss. That’s why his eyes appear to be blue in some instances.
Stop with the headcannon. Venom has blue eyes. The whole point of venom is to look *exactly* like big boss and u think they'd miss something as important as his eye color?? Also in every picture of venoms face you can clearly see he has a blue eye (unless ur color blind)
@@Slavic_Snake no, your wrong. Venoms character description states he has green eyes. In the beginning of the game in the hospital scene you clearly see he has green eyes. It isn’t until he leaves the hospital we start seeing him with blue eye. Why? Because venom snake is brainwashed to think he is the big boss. Therefore we are seeing his character through his eyes. In his mind he is big boss therefore he is a perfect replica. But in reality he isn’t. There are subtle differences in his physical characteristics that point out to others that he isn’t big boss if they look carefully enough. In the interrogation scene in MGS3 Volgin states he hates Naked Snakes blue eyes. He really dislikes big boss that he dedicated his life to getting revenge on him. I honestly doubt he would forget details about a person he deeply detest. Big boss is a man who destroyed his plans and crushed his dreams. Big boss took everything from him and Volgins hatred for him is so out of this world, he refused to die. Others have said that the reason Volgin was able to tell he wasn’t big boss is because he isn’t missing a eye. However, this does not make any sense because Venom was wearing a eye patch. Volgin wouldn’t be able to tell an eye is missing from a eye patch. He could only see the visible eye where he would see venoms eyes are green. I’m not making any of this up. You can look it up. Edit: rewatch the intro scene on UA-cam. Look at the scene where the doctor shows Venom the mirror for he can see himself. Look at his eye color. It’s green. It isn’t until people like ocelot and Kaz call venom the living legend when he starts seeing himself with Naked blue eyes. If you doubt that just search up his eye color online. You will find multiple sources stating he has green eyes and naked has blue eyes.
I just now got around to playing mgsv recently and when I first seen the man on fire, I said to myself "man the way that guy moves is just like volgan" so this is kinda awesome
Well if you played Metal gear solid Snake Eater. Right before playing The Phantom Pain. You would remember When you rescue the Russian scientist Sokolov he mentions that Snakes speaks Russian perfectly. In the Phantom pain Venom has to get a russian soldier to Mother Base to translate Russian for him.
He's a medic that's the reason why he treats his injuries so quickly and efficiently. The original Big Boss also had a basic knowledge about medicine, but venom was more efficiently
Volgin sees that Snake has both of his eyes intact, however Big Boss had his right shot off by Volgin and that's why he calmed down and just killed himself
I’m pretty sure Venom snake also lost his right eye. If not Volgin still would not have been able to tell in this manner because they both had an eye patch, unless Volgin can see through objects. I think the reason why he found out was because Big boss has blue eyes and venom snake has green eyes. In metal gear solid 3 Volgin mentions big boss’s blue eyes saying he hated his blue eyes. Looking at venom snake, venom snake clearly has green eyes, meaning they are two different individuals.
@@jonathanm9986 Venom Snake has a blind eye but it’s still there in the eye socket . Big Boss eye litteraly got blown away by Ocelot gun . Ain’t nothing to do about having blue or green eyes
@@togucvinw7 no there is about blue and green eyes, look it up. And how is Volgin supposed to tell Venom is blind through the patch. Does he have X-ray vision?
@@togucvinw7 I’m about to look it up so if you’re right I’m sorry lol but from what I remember big boss didn’t lose his eye socket either the muzzle flash of onslaughts gone burned the inside of his Iris
When I saw that scene I just assumed after torture Kaz was in a like “holy shit someone came to save me and of all people it’s the boss” kinda mood not scene, dialogue but close enough
He says something along the lines of "say that thing you always say" and there is no actual button prompt on-screen to say "kept you waiting, huh?" You have to know about it beforehand, so likely everyone's first experience is blue-balling Kaz by not saying it, further hinting that you're not the real Big Boss.
So few people seemed to notice that every character that already knew snake doesn't recognize Venom at first. before dismissing it and accepting that Venom is Snake.
@@courier6640 four ways. PSP/vita, PS3 HD remastered, PPSSPP & RPCS3 emulation on PC. You could also wait another 5 years after they're done porting everything to desktop.
At the very start of the game when the real Big Boss saves you from quiet, he says “who are you?” And gets the response “you’re talking to yourself”. Once you’ve played the game it’s really cool to see all the big and little cues of your real identity.
The level of dicking around in this game was godly!!! I was near 500 hours in, on pc, when a homie told me there was a whole new continent to travel too. I was blown away. To this day I am unable to load the game and properly finish it. I immediately go into dick around mode. 10/10. MGS5 I’ve never seen this scene!!!!
If Metal Gear games weren't convoluted enough, Big Boss in MGSV:TPP was revealed not to be the actual Big Boss, but a brainwashed copy of real Big Boss. Except this is that Big Boss, who was giving orders, but then turned on Solid Snake in the very first Metal Gear game and was revealed to be the main villain, the evil mastermind behind everything and whom Solid Snake eliminated in the final duel. Except, the real Big Boss is the main villain in the second canonical Metal Gear sequel, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (excluding NES exclusive sequel Snake's Revenge, made without Kojima, later removed from main storyline, considered non-canon). This reminds me of Robert Downey in the movie Tropic Thunder, playing actor Kirk Lazarus, saying: "I know who I am! I'm a dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude! Good luck to anyone who hasn't played the franchise figuring all this out!
Venom wasn’t also apart of foxhound. At the end of the game big boss takes off to start outer heaven, then he puts venom in charge and moves back to America and rejoins foxhound. Big boss was giving orders in mg1. While snake killed venom. After that the real big boss fled and started Zanzibar land
@kinoireI thought MGS2 was theorized just to be a simulation, meaning that Venom could have been doing his own thing the whole time (MGV’s ending was ambiguous as to how happy Venom was to hear about the whole thing)
There’s also the Phantom Cigars. Their E-Cigars. In Peace Walker Huey was smoking them and offered some to Snake. He replied saying he hates them and the real thing is always better.
@@Summercamp1sland It's the keyboard , not my fault And you too don't expect this toilet paper will care about your support , they don't give you money to support them and they don't even know that you are exist .
I know people didn't like that he's a fake big boss but to me the medic is just another naked snake, he has almost all of big bosses memories skills and experience he doesn't even remember his life as the medic anyway so what's the difference
Fun fact, this video is about Venom Snake not being Big Boss, not about the man on fire being Volgan because everyone knows that shit was obvious from the start
This is my first MGS game ever played and idk much of story going on but i’ve currently been intrigued with the story and this had been some of the best game played i’ve experienced in awhile, I still haven’t finished but all I could say is this is after reading the comments i’m definitely going back to play MG Snake Eater to understand more context. This is an amazing game and I recommend everyone to play.
I worked it out on my second playthrough cos I'd just been playing snake eater a couple of days before, and that jumpsuit and bullet bandolier looked pretty familiar
Nah, he did in fact come back to life, theres a whole bunch of tapes of Kaz and Ocelot talking about the man on fire its also stated that he can do a lot of things thanks to The Third Child
I mean if you really look at the man on fire you can instantly tell it’s volgin cause he’s got the same red suit on (obviously kinda hard to see cause of the fire) Also at the very beginning of the game he has his big overcoat on to begin with but it gets burned off
It feels weird to remember you’re not meant to know Venom and Big Boss aren’t the same person, we all take if for granted but if someone plays Ground Zeroes and then Phantom Pain they’ll think it’s the same dude
Man seeing old angry boy volgy in phantom pain was amazing but when you get the reptile pod on top mother base that gave me feels from snake eater and peace walker you don't know the feels unless you played peace walker and know bosses second sacrifice
I hope in the Remake we see an post credit cutscene ( not the title game name with speeches for an epilogue ) but we see Volgin move a bit on the top of an destroyed Shagohod before the clip end
Did you know that in Metal Gear Solid V, playing the game in sequential order hints at the twist ending by allowing you to see the ending when you're playing? This also hints at the fact that playing the game lets you see the story play out.
It’s also kind of weird realizing that you never see big box with the phantom cigar only venom I could be wrong, but I think venom has been shown smoking a normal cigar but I just thought that was a cool touch the University big boss doing it
There are alot of foreshadowing if you pay attentions, like how Venom doesn't know rusian like Big Boss or how BB hate eletronic cigarette while Venom smoking phantom cigar....
Right from the beginning they hinted to venom not being the true big boss…. In the hospital u see both of venom’s eyes…. When there should only be one eye because the other got shot out in MGS3 snake eater. Also no S scare in his chest
It's literally in the beginning of the game when Quiet comes into your room and kills the Doctor. She says some like "I found him, but I need to deal with another patient who saw me." Then she walks over to YOU, the OTHER patient who saw her not Big Boss.
If you played mgs3 you knew that was volgin because of his clothes
Yeah same
I heavily thought that it was Volgin from the start but had no proof
Another foreshadowing moment is when you find dr emric in Afghanistan the ai pod says "your not jack"
You're*
"Your" using at other sentences.
Even Huey👩🦼 is not sure on first encounter
What about Kaz? He was a BB's close friend
@Ricardo Tracker in the Ending when you hear him talking with ocelot, he says that he'll help the new bigboss and David(solid snake) when he grows up and that the og bigboss can go to hell.
@@ricardotracker4047 I know it's revealed at the END when it reveals Ocelots and Kaz's Convo, but when you rescue Kaz in the beginning, he has ONE swollen eye, and the other is coloured perfectly fine. Then somehow, at the end, they're gray.
However, with his one good eye, Snake yanks the bag of Kaz's head, and he looks at him and says "No more use for me huh..?" And then snake says "Kaz it's me....!" And he's all "..... Snake...?"
Fun fact: his horse is the Boss’ from MGS3 due it to being burned on one side after extinguishing
The Boss's horse dies in Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker after helping Snake chase after the Peace Walker and failing to cross the border wall. The horse was based off of a statue near the hospital.
@@splashor6361 It seems like many people haven't played PW, the thing that frustrates me the most is when someone says that Big Bosses name is John 🤣
@@masnidebelicrnac I'm actually wondering what you mean by that because as far as I know, John is his real name and Jack is his nickname.
@@splashor6361 Why do you think his name is really John? He said that his name is John only 2 times, first while joking with paramedic that his name is John Doe (which is "placeholder name" for a man whose name you don't know) and she responded with Jane Doe (a female counterpart) and the second time when he said to Ocelot that his name is John which can be taken as a reference to a joke between paramedic and Snake that happened previously. Zero called him Jack in the beginning of the game before using codenames and Boss called him Jack all the time from MGS3 through Peace Walker as a mammal pod and in MGSV and never used John, I think that she should have used John at least once if that's his real name.
Name John is brought up 2 times and name Jack is being used all the time by the Boss but somehow people still think that his name is John??
Also I find it even more reasonable that his name is Jack if we consider that Raiden's name is Jack and we literally have his mask in the game, Kojima tricked us again by giving us Jack again and not David and never gave us the same David again hahah
Also I doubt that Kojima would just name him John as if his last name is Rambo XD
I forgot to say that I know that his name in MGSPO+ is John if you take the Naked Naked Snake skin but I think that that's just a joke because all the other characters from MGS3 in that game have codenames and his name is just "JOHN", why isn't paramedic then "DR.CLARK" hahah? Or even better just "JANE" bruh.
@@masnidebelicrnac Ocelot refers to him as John and I feel like he would've been corrected at some point if he was being lied to. Jack is also a nickname for John. The Wikia also says his name is John so the general consensus is that he is really named John.
there's a cassette tape where ocelot talks about eli/liquid's dna results, he says it's nothing to worry about and venom is in no way related to eli. foreshadowing the ending even more
In the very first mission, you need a Russian translator, which Big Boss speaks Russian.
@@Starphx Thats not that good of a clue since in the same scene you're referring to, Ocelot explains it away for the audience that "That chunk of metal in your head must have damaged the language center of your brain... Speaking anything other than English might be off the table. We'll see about getting a skilled interpreter who can translate for you in real time in the field"
@@razorswisherhe was complemented on how insanely fluent he was in figured he would have atleast remembered a few important words regarding espionage like the word location prisoner enemy dead etc
@@razorswisherit sounded like he was making that up on the spot.
@@razorswisherThat doesn't make much sense. He was just making something up to not blow the cover on the whole operation.
And yea, making sense in a Kojima game can be difficult but even Kojima knows that the likelihood of some shrapnel randomly flying at high speed into one's skull and only perfectly cutting off the foreign language skills is not very realistic.
The reason why Volgin knew he wasn’t big boss is because Big boss has blue eyes and venom snake has green eyes. In mgs3 volgin said something along the lines of “I hate those blue eyes of your.” Volgin remembered snakes eye color from the interrogation scene in snake eater. That’s how much he hates Big boss.
doesnt venom also has blue eyes ?
@@olucaspc He has green eyes. Naked has blue eyes.
However in game venom is brainwashed to think he is Big boss. That’s why in the hospital it’s clear his eyes are green but after words in game his eyes are blue. Your seeing your own character through the eyes of a man who is brainwashed to believe he is the big boss. That’s why his eyes appear to be blue in some instances.
Stop with the headcannon. Venom has blue eyes. The whole point of venom is to look *exactly* like big boss and u think they'd miss something as important as his eye color?? Also in every picture of venoms face you can clearly see he has a blue eye (unless ur color blind)
@@Slavic_Snake no, your wrong. Venoms character description states he has green eyes. In the beginning of the game in the hospital scene you clearly see he has green eyes. It isn’t until he leaves the hospital we start seeing him with blue eye. Why? Because venom snake is brainwashed to think he is the big boss. Therefore we are seeing his character through his eyes. In his mind he is big boss therefore he is a perfect replica. But in reality he isn’t. There are subtle differences in his physical characteristics that point out to others that he isn’t big boss if they look carefully enough.
In the interrogation scene in MGS3 Volgin states he hates Naked Snakes blue eyes. He really dislikes big boss that he dedicated his life to getting revenge on him. I honestly doubt he would forget details about a person he deeply detest. Big boss is a man who destroyed his plans and crushed his dreams. Big boss took everything from him and Volgins hatred for him is so out of this world, he refused to die.
Others have said that the reason Volgin was able to tell he wasn’t big boss is because he isn’t missing a eye. However, this does not make any sense because Venom was wearing a eye patch. Volgin wouldn’t be able to tell an eye is missing from a eye patch. He could only see the visible eye where he would see venoms eyes are green. I’m not making any of this up. You can look it up.
Edit: rewatch the intro scene on UA-cam. Look at the scene where the doctor shows Venom the mirror for he can see himself. Look at his eye color. It’s green.
It isn’t until people like ocelot and Kaz call venom the living legend when he starts seeing himself with Naked blue eyes. If you doubt that just search up his eye color online. You will find multiple sources stating he has green eyes and naked has blue eyes.
@@watdadogedoin Volgin can’t see through solid objects. How would he be able to tell Venom had both eyes?
I just now got around to playing mgsv recently and when I first seen the man on fire, I said to myself "man the way that guy moves is just like volgan" so this is kinda awesome
Knew it as soon as i saw him
yeah, and also asks for the magic words that Big boss always says... Kept you waiting, huh?
@@foxtrotsierraproductions8626same, his outfit was not at all subtle 😂
@@brianbailey904 yeah the uniform he wears is identical to his one from snake eater so it was obvious from the first time you see him
Literally like 5 minutes into the tutorial I was like “that’s volgin there’s no way it’s not “
Well if you played Metal gear solid Snake Eater. Right before playing The Phantom Pain. You would remember When you rescue the Russian scientist Sokolov he mentions that Snakes speaks Russian perfectly. In the Phantom pain Venom has to get a russian soldier to Mother Base to translate Russian for him.
Ocelot: "uhhh... it looks like that shrapnel, uh... damaged the language center of your brain! Yeah! That's it."
Brooo, I can’t believe i missed that 🤦🏻♂️
They explain this as the metal chunk in venoms head having taken out his ability to speak different languages
@@brianbailey904pretty easy to look over since they say the object in “big boss’s” head effected the speech part of his brain
@@kingofcringe0that was just to throw the scent off the trail
He's a medic that's the reason why he treats his injuries so quickly and efficiently. The original Big Boss also had a basic knowledge about medicine, but venom was more efficiently
Naked Snake: "whole ass cut scene of digging out the bullet, disinfecting the wound, stitching, wrapping".
Venom Snake:*SHOVE* "AURRRRRGH"
@@warthogs3098*axe body spray* AARRGHHHH
@@greekzeus9818 axe body spray 😂 what kind of scent did he use
The solid kind.
@@bigfatbuns Africa makes the most sense lol
Volgin sees that Snake has both of his eyes intact, however Big Boss had his right shot off by Volgin and that's why he calmed down and just killed himself
Ocelot shot BB's eye, not Volgin
I’m pretty sure Venom snake also lost his right eye. If not Volgin still would not have been able to tell in this manner because they both had an eye patch, unless Volgin can see through objects.
I think the reason why he found out was because Big boss has blue eyes and venom snake has green eyes. In metal gear solid 3 Volgin mentions big boss’s blue eyes saying he hated his blue eyes. Looking at venom snake, venom snake clearly has green eyes, meaning they are two different individuals.
@@jonathanm9986 Venom Snake has a blind eye but it’s still there in the eye socket . Big Boss eye litteraly got blown away by Ocelot gun . Ain’t nothing to do about having blue or green eyes
@@togucvinw7 no there is about blue and green eyes, look it up.
And how is Volgin supposed to tell Venom is blind through the patch. Does he have X-ray vision?
@@togucvinw7 I’m about to look it up so if you’re right I’m sorry lol but from what I remember big boss didn’t lose his eye socket either the muzzle flash of onslaughts gone burned the inside of his Iris
This is also hinted at in the first field mission in Afghanistan, where Kaz asks "is it really you?" And seems slightly dubious about your identity.
When I saw that scene I just assumed after torture Kaz was in a like “holy shit someone came to save me and of all people it’s the boss” kinda mood
not scene, dialogue but close enough
@DemolitionCanister honestly that could just as well be the case, so much of the game is ambiguous and up to interpretation.
He says something along the lines of "say that thing you always say" and there is no actual button prompt on-screen to say "kept you waiting, huh?" You have to know about it beforehand, so likely everyone's first experience is blue-balling Kaz by not saying it, further hinting that you're not the real Big Boss.
So few people seemed to notice that every character that already knew snake doesn't recognize Venom at first. before dismissing it and accepting that Venom is Snake.
Also the boss ai doesn't recognize you and when you go over to Emmerich he also doubts if you are Snake
It's truly insane how much context one can miss from not playing Peace Walker.
Peace Walker is a phat information POD for the mgs series.
All the fake fans in the comments that haven't played Peace Walker. Massive L to all of them.
well i dont like not being allowed to go prone @@NeuroticBlackSheep
@@NeuroticBlackSheep
HEY! Where can we even play PW anymore? I want to know!
@@courier6640 four ways.
PSP/vita, PS3 HD remastered, PPSSPP & RPCS3 emulation on PC. You could also wait another 5 years after they're done porting everything to desktop.
At the very start of the game when the real Big Boss saves you from quiet, he says “who are you?” And gets the response “you’re talking to yourself”. Once you’ve played the game it’s really cool to see all the big and little cues of your real identity.
I noticed that straight away. It seemed very obvious. Especially since Ishmael is obviously voiced by keifer too
Another fun fact: He is still not dead.
@unknown enemy He is not dead. What exactly is so difficult to understand? He is not dead but he cant speak move or get out the bed and walk.
Who is not dead? The man on fire?
@@vicentegeonix Yes the man on fire aka Volgin is still not dead. He is like a vegetable but alive
@@RomMor2 "He's still alive, but in a Vegitative state.. through the use of Nanomachines."
I swear to god if raiden fights volgin in mgr 2 ,i will have a stroke lol
Because volgin learns from his mistakes
Man, when he said "plant your roots in me' I thought he was going to ate everyone ashes lol
same
Venom snake is the Big Boss from the OG metal gear game for those who didnt know. The super Nintendo one.
There was no metal gear for the Super Nintendo. You’re thinking of the one for the MSX that was ported to the NES
*adds to confusion by naming wrong console* :D
People who play as the dd soldiers:
Technically, every playable character is a DD Soldier
Yeah, but the DD soldiers don't appear in cutscenes unfortunately.
My friend accidentally bumped into the quiet boss fight as one of his DD soldiers and beat her with an incredibly weak soldier
And water is wet.
When you think about it, there are still people around who debate about this.
No it's not
The level of dicking around in this game was godly!!! I was near 500 hours in, on pc, when a homie told me there was a whole new continent to travel too. I was blown away. To this day I am unable to load the game and properly finish it. I immediately go into dick around mode. 10/10. MGS5
I’ve never seen this scene!!!!
Bro play through the main missions lol
If Metal Gear games weren't convoluted enough, Big Boss in MGSV:TPP was revealed not to be the actual Big Boss, but a brainwashed copy of real Big Boss. Except this is that Big Boss, who was giving orders, but then turned on Solid Snake in the very first Metal Gear game and was revealed to be the main villain, the evil mastermind behind everything and whom Solid Snake eliminated in the final duel.
Except, the real Big Boss is the main villain in the second canonical Metal Gear sequel, Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake (excluding NES exclusive sequel Snake's Revenge, made without Kojima, later removed from main storyline, considered non-canon).
This reminds me of Robert Downey in the movie Tropic Thunder, playing actor Kirk Lazarus, saying: "I know who I am! I'm a dude, playing the dude, disguised as another dude!
Good luck to anyone who hasn't played the franchise figuring all this out!
Venom wasn’t also apart of foxhound. At the end of the game big boss takes off to start outer heaven, then he puts venom in charge and moves back to America and rejoins foxhound. Big boss was giving orders in mg1. While snake killed venom. After that the real big boss fled and started Zanzibar land
@kinoireI thought MGS2 was theorized just to be a simulation, meaning that Venom could have been doing his own thing the whole time (MGV’s ending was ambiguous as to how happy Venom was to hear about the whole thing)
And that he was never missing an arm. At least to my knowledge he had both hands the whole time.
I knew it was Volgin as if you look at the fire being shot at you you see electricity on the arm before it fires at you
Wish theyd give next gen enhancements for this
Mgs5 was one of my favorite games of all time. I wish it was finished
You can change your face but can never change ur eyes
There’s also the Phantom Cigars. Their E-Cigars. In Peace Walker Huey was smoking them and offered some to Snake. He replied saying he hates them and the real thing is always better.
Huey was smoking a vaporiser. Doesn't the Phantom Cigar actually heat/burn herbs and so wouldn't actually be the same thing?
@@onlyashes89or they’re just disposables 😂 who knows
I knew it was volgin as soon as I saw him in the hospital same uniform
@@The_Manipulator nah but these are some of the top brands 🇮🇷🇵🇸🇨🇳
@@Summercamp1sland
Lmao that palestine and Iran and china flags
But this 🇮🇱 is a really toilet paper
@@The_Manipulator Palestine wouldn’t exspect you to know how to spell the name of the place you “support”
@@Summercamp1sland
It's the keyboard , not my fault
And you too don't expect this toilet paper will care about your support , they don't give you money to support them and they don't even know that you are exist .
@@Summercamp1sland and you don't know how to spell expect
Also on the first mission on the hospital if you hear ocelot he says its been a long time meaning he knows that it is Volgin
I know people didn't like that he's a fake big boss but to me the medic is just another naked snake, he has almost all of big bosses memories skills and experience he doesn't even remember his life as the medic anyway so what's the difference
Volgin was like NO THAT IS NOT SOLID SNAKE
MGS 2 reference? Nice
Volgin: "Your Eyes Tell me everything with no lies...."
If I had a nickel for Everytime Volgin grabs a man and realizes it's someone else...
It was the most obvious plot twist in the history of existence
He groped him and instantly knew
Venom looked at him like " wtf do you have against me?!"
No way and in Africa every 60 seconds a minute passes
Next you'll tell me the sky is blue
i have something to tell you
@@Kiraiscoolashell oh no...
He been waiting to long for that moment
I literally thought he was volgin in the first mission lol
I’m kicking myself for not thinking more about all the weird shit that happened throughout the story to hint at venom’s reveal.
I already knew that The man on fire was Volgin at the very start of Phantom Pain
Fun fact, everyone fucking knows this BEFORE you even do this mission cuz Ocelot literally tells you it's Volgin.
Fun fact, this video is about Venom Snake not being Big Boss, not about the man on fire being Volgan because everyone knows that shit was obvious from the start
This is my first MGS game ever played and idk much of story going on but i’ve currently been intrigued with the story and this had been some of the best game played i’ve experienced in awhile, I still haven’t finished but all I could say is this is after reading the comments i’m definitely going back to play MG Snake Eater to understand more context. This is an amazing game and I recommend everyone to play.
"what beautiful blue eyes you have" volgin to big boss
The real big boss has blue eyes and Volgin knows this
"Cut out his eyes. I don't like those blue eyes of his." Venom's eyes were green, not blue.
im afraid it's been 9 years
Did you know in metal gear solid v you'll be spending alot of your time just riding around in an empty desert
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Every major character who is supposed to know Venom doesn't recognize him at first. So, that's another foreshadowing
The most pointeless secondary plot in the game.
Volgin: Your not the big Boss your the player
There are more than dozen things in this game foreshadowing this "secret"
I started playing 5 again and missed an important hint at the start. When Ahab asked Ishmael who he is, he replies "you're just talking to yourself"
I realized this when the boss ai said it out loud 🎉
You can tell it was him in the hospital scene
Love this game. On my third play through currently
Bro checked his balls
Should've put his motorcycle in the damn game.
Fun fact: this isn't a fun fact, you just explained the damn plot
Its strange how a medic some how did all what he did
I worked it out on my second playthrough cos I'd just been playing snake eater a couple of days before, and that jumpsuit and bullet bandolier looked pretty familiar
Four shadowing bro the game starts with the song the man who sold the world
Venom being rated A++ in all stats instead of S++ always confused me, than I noticed he was not Snake
Yes I played the game
The absolute best Foreshadowing is at the start. Where you get the plastic surgery.
Also, Elis blood results, The Boss AI pod and Huey talk and look at him as if hes a different person (he is)
Volgin realized that bc Venom's balls are not the same size as the ones from Big Boss
He didn't come back to life, that was just one of Ahab's hallucinations
Nah, he did in fact come back to life, theres a whole bunch of tapes of Kaz and Ocelot talking about the man on fire
its also stated that he can do a lot of things thanks to The Third Child
Sorry man He absolutely did come back to life
@@HAIL_CAESAR_XIII indeed
Also way earlier in the game .. the fact that you have to get a Russian interpreter just to understand what the Russians was saying was a big tell.
To be fair they explained it by saying that the metal in the cerebral cortex was messing with language based tasks.
And the fact that real Big Boss smokes real cigarettes not electric ones
Why does this guy trying to sound like the cool Asian guy who does movie trivia?
I guess inspiration?
I give it 8/10 I need more
I've never noticed this before, but is that the Boss's horse?
Yes, yes we did know. We all knew.
There were so many hints in MGSV that Venom wasn't the real Big Boss I wonder how many people realized it from their first play through.
I realised it was volgin when I first saw him as he is wearing the same outfit
I mean if you really look at the man on fire you can instantly tell it’s volgin cause he’s got the same red suit on (obviously kinda hard to see cause of the fire)
Also at the very beginning of the game he has his big overcoat on to begin with but it gets burned off
good thing about mgs is that u can't get spoiled not even by playing the game
It feels weird to remember you’re not meant to know Venom and Big Boss aren’t the same person, we all take if for granted but if someone plays Ground Zeroes and then Phantom Pain they’ll think it’s the same dude
Man seeing old angry boy volgy in phantom pain was amazing but when you get the reptile pod on top mother base that gave me feels from snake eater and peace walker you don't know the feels unless you played peace walker and know bosses second sacrifice
I hope in the Remake we see an post credit cutscene ( not the title game name with speeches for an epilogue ) but we see Volgin move a bit on the top of an destroyed Shagohod before the clip end
Skullface: first time?
Fun fact *this is literally just a mission in the game and if you’re already a fan of metal gear solid three you should know all of this*
"OPERATION SNAKE BEATER"
Bigg boss literally has no eye, venom has the eye but not the vision, so yeah, ez to recongnise
Also, did you know that when you eat, the food goes into the stomach?
Volgin: "Who is HE?"
idk how, but i realized venom snake was not big boss, the way he did not realize the robot (the boss) from peace walker did it for me
I somehow realized it on first play
So i didnt kill the real deal huh-
So many people realized he isn't big boss
Did you know that in Metal Gear Solid V, playing the game in sequential order hints at the twist ending by allowing you to see the ending when you're playing? This also hints at the fact that playing the game lets you see the story play out.
It’s also kind of weird realizing that you never see big box with the phantom cigar only venom I could be wrong, but I think venom has been shown smoking a normal cigar but I just thought that was a cool touch the University big boss doing it
If anyone Didn't know, the game will tell them about 13 times in the cassettes
There are alot of foreshadowing if you pay attentions, like how Venom doesn't know rusian like Big Boss or how BB hate eletronic cigarette while Venom smoking phantom cigar....
Right from the beginning they hinted to venom not being the true big boss…. In the hospital u see both of venom’s eyes…. When there should only be one eye because the other got shot out in MGS3 snake eater. Also no S scare in his chest
As someone who played the nes mg games i knew all along you played as venom snake, big bosses body double, even the roman numeral is a give away.
How so?
Source: trust me bro.
Gtfoh lol
It's literally in the beginning of the game when Quiet comes into your room and kills the Doctor. She says some like "I found him, but I need to deal with another patient who saw me." Then she walks over to YOU, the OTHER patient who saw her not Big Boss.
Or you know the giant spike in your head that big boss never had but sure
I think anyone who paid attention to the story knew all of this...
yes big boss went underground after peace walker only to resurface in mgs4 🎉
What if he’s decoy octopus?
Venom snake doesn't understand Russian. He had to "recruit" a translator. That was the first clue where I felt something was amiss