Knitting Help - Comparing Decreases
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Sometimes patterns, especially older patterns, will tell you to decrease without specifying which decrease to use. Or you may be working a pattern where you think a different decrease will work better than the one the pattern calls for. In this video, I compare three popular decreases side-by-side so you can see the differences.
Slow demonstrations of the three decreases:
Knit Two Together (k2tog): • Knitting Help - k2tog,...
Slip, Slip, Knit (SSK): • Knitting Help - ssk, o...
Pass Slipped Stitch Over (PSSO): • Knitting Help - Pass S...
The bulky yarn I used for demonstration is Knit Picks Wool of the Andes Bulky in Yonder.
The needles I'm using are Knitter's Pride Nova Platinas, from an interchangeable set:
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The ball-chain stitch markers I'm using can be found here:
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The nail polish I'm wearing is by Julep, color "Amanda".
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My silver ring is actually a knitting needle gauge, and can be found here:
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Everything about HER channel is always very very professional and clean. No clutter, no mess, no junk. She puts a lot of effort into her teaching and takes all of this to the next level. Thank you, its much appreciated by viewers. amazing ! always a beautiful manicure and cool nail polish.
Thanks again, Staci! You don’t know me, but we became BFF’s during the COVID Isolation Year. You kept me engaged, entertained, learning, and my friends and family truly enjoyed everything I knit, from tulle scrubbies to baby blankets, scarves, sweaters, vests, etc. Now engaged in Swedish Death Cleaning, I found a vest I started for the husband about 5 years ago….that stopped when I got to the instructions about those darn decreases. Tonight, I return to the only project I have ever started for the husband. Finally, something for the most beloved. It’s about time🥰. So, thank you from both of us
Whatever knitting question I have, you always have a video with an answer. The videos are very well done and easy to understand.
Thank you again for your wonderful teachings. I love that you show us the results of knitting stitches. This helps me decide.
You are the very best knitting instructor ever! So helpful and clear, perfectly explained and demonstrated - I love all your Slow Motion videos and all your regular speed videos - whenever I need assistance I only look at yours now for everything! Thank you SO MUCH!! Ann from UK!
This was such a helpful tutorial. I have a very old knitting pattern book with some charming patterns but really non specific directions (kind of like old cooking recipes). I finally understand the different decreases. Thanks
Did you mean knit the purls and purl the knits?
Thanks Staci. Not being a constant knitter, I didn't realize the type of decrease looked so different. I'll be more careful to choose the right one for the piece next time!
Very simply explained thankyou. ❣
Too many people talk too much and not actually show how to do. Thanks.
This video is very helpful to recognize the right and left leaning decreases. Rather than just read the pattern hoping the author knows best. Thank you.
OK. So, I'm used to my cats grabbing at my knitting. I've even learned how to spin with a cat on my knee (kitty gives that extra bit of carding while I draft). But I was just watching your decrease and increase videos and Houdini came and sat right on the mouse, pausing the video. They just don't want me knitting! I guess they haven't forgiven me for the matching antlers I knit them last Christmas...
Love your videos!
I watched another video, she decreased 2 sts. by knitting through the back of the 2 stitches. Can't find it again but will try it to see what it looks like. I just love your videos, very articulate and easy to understand. Always look forward to them. Thanks.
Thank you so much for the "sister" video on increase/decrease. I have literally not chosen patterns based on not knowing which is the best decrease and increase to use. Now I can run amuck, pick patterns and knit like a fiend.
Thank you for this video! I realize now why my decreases on my first sock looked strange. I was doing a PSSO when I thought I was doing an SSK. :) whoops! Newbie mistake.
Right to the point and super clear as usual. Thank you!
Thank you so much for this video. Several time's I've come to YT to find your video and remind me which ones lean which direction. Thanks.
There's also knit 2 together through the back loop to mirror the knit 2 together. I use that to 'knit the gap' when I'm turning the heel on a sock.
I was thinking that was possible too; so you answered that for me, but is there any slant to that type of decrease?
I found the answer: this makes a left leaning decrease.
It makes a left leaning decrease but not structurally the same as the SSK or SKP (which should be identical to each other). If you stack k2togtbl they aren't pretty like SSK or SKP. The line they make is wobbly.
note for the heretics like me: if you knit everything through the back loop, ssk and k2tog lean the other way. so to ssk, you k2tog, and for k2tog, you ssk.
This is a great explanation of what they look like, and how to choose.
I am a beginner and this video is very helpful and understandable. Thank you so much!!
I actually would like to replicate that piece as an educational tool. I'm part of a knitting group that encourages beginner attendance, and I find that having something physical to show them is easier to teach them with than just verbally explaining the different stitches.
Super helpful! Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks so much.
I love your videos! Anytime I need help with a project this is my go to channel! Keep up the good work
Thank u so much!! I love learning from you. And your nails look pretty too!
Thank you for such good information... As always, your instructions were clear and so helpful...
I love your tutorials👍🏼
i like that piece of knitting it looks like a pretty fan.
Girl that ring! I love it! :D
Thank you so much..very well explained
Thank you!! Yet another really great video :)
I love your teaching soooooooo much, thanks!
Hello, thank you for this great video. I was wondering where I could learn to do that Pretty decorative PSSO. I actually think that its kind of nice...or rather....I have noticed that there are patterns where the sleeve are attached to sweaters but they have gorgeous detailing with the decreases. Its seen a lot on older style knitting that is very precision based, also a lot of more modern designers have adopted these kinds of details into their designs.
I don't know where to find instructions for that, or what its really called so that i can search and research as I know and completely understand that impossible for you to answer every single question that you're asked daily on the internet. There are so many nice techniques for finishing sleeves, i'd like to learn some. Im doing sample sleeves to practice japanese short rows and am following some of your instructions and some of Carol Sundays on her website. This is great stuff. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. YOU Are a Blessing. You're little blue sample is Fantastic..
Very clear as always.
It's very much easier tq man for theese wonderful videos
Thank you for the video, it's really helpful! I'd like to ask if it is possible (for long sweater sleeve decreasing purposes) to decrease one stitch in a line and make it look good? I noticed that with one stitch taken away at a time the decreasing line runs either to the left or right depending whether I decrease before or after the marker. Is there a way to keep a straight line on a sleeve?
Thank you very much for this. One question: Does PSSO have a mirrored stitch for a right leaning decrease? The K2Tog and SSK mirror perfectly, but I haven't seen a right leaning decrease that matches the PSSO. Thank you!
June Brown - there isn't really a stitch that mirrors the strong look of the PSSO, k2tog is the best match. To get the same look on a right-leaning decrease would be really complicated - working stitches, then slipping them back to the left needle, then binding-off (the wrong way) one stitch over the other, and slipping the stitches back. It can be done, but I don't know of it ever being used in a pattern because it would slow your knitting down so much.
Some times I prefer to use two needles rather than in the round. If instructions are to decrease on every row, I'm not sure how to make the angle of the purl row stitches the same as the angle on the knit row.
Hi. I so appreciate your teaching and designs as well as your stories are always professionally presented. Thank you for so much help. I have a question I hope doesn't anger you. In this video you show why you choose the decrease stitch and how it lays and it all makes perfect sense. Especially for clothing.
My question is in your video of the mitered square you do the center backwards from from what you teach here. Here you say do the left learning decrease the S.S.K. second and the K2tog (the right decrease) 2nd. But in the mitered square you teach the opposite to the ssk first then the k2tog. Is that a design choice to intentionally get the twisted stitch for decor purposes to have the twisted stitch and little decorative bump? It seems to me and I just started to learn to knit a month or two ago when I decided to make a baby blanket for my first grsndson. Anyway, while trying to pick a pattern I wateched many totorials. In you doing the mitered squar your way you teach I believe to go opposite of what you teach here? Seems to me that say for an underam perhaps on a sweater say under that may not be the best choice. It may be uncomfortable. Looks good on the mitered square. I don't think its by accident. Am I possibly correct? Is it about how you wanted the center to look on the blanket squares or what ever you use you version of the mitered square. Which by the way I quite like.
I ask because I'm confused not to put you on the spot or pick on a mistake or something crewl like that. First because as a designer of other arts mostly. So I think it's design choice and I am just too curious so I have to be nosey and ask? I am not a troll. Thank you kindly. Trudy 🐏🐑😊
Hi Trudy - there are no rules about mirrored decreases, it is up to the designer for any given pattern (or day) to choose the one they prefer. There is a different look between the two, but both are correct.
Is there a right leaning decrease to complement the design in paso?
How people increase suddenly a lot like those very baggy sleeves?
Can someone explain why for SSK, she says to knit those "through the back loop" as she pokes the left needle through the FRONT LOOP of the two slipped stitches on the right needle?
It is through the back loop of the stitches on the LEFT needle, and we usually refer to where the right needle is going in knitting.
very helpful indeed
Can you do a video of different styles used for pairing bottom up raglan yoke decreases and another video for top down increases?
Do gored seam, subtle seam, directional ridge, prominent ridge, lace and cable variations. Is there a way to do a yo mixed with decrease for bottom up?
Hey Staci,
Can you please make a video about blocking your knitting in detail.
Thanks
I've been working on a scarf that uses increases and decreases to create a braid-looking texture, and I thought I remembered how to do a ssk, but obviously not... I've been slipping both stitches purl-wise, then inserting my left needle into those stitches from the right to the left, and knitting them off my right hand needle. It looks similar - when I looked at a ssk my way next to a ssk the correct way, I couldn't tell them apart at first - but it creates a slightly twisted stitch as seen from the right side of the work. Oops! Oh well. Now I know for next time. Because I'm not frogging this right now. 😂
Thank you for this video! I am knitting a pattern called Dreams of Ireland and it calls for alot of very intricate stitches and I use your channel for help! Could you give an example of doing an SP?
Thank you!
For decreasing for a raglan sleeve, would you do the ask on the right side of the sleeve and the k2 tog on the left side? Or vice versa?
Where can I get those little "chain" stitch markers?? LOVE, LOVE, LOVE your videos!!!
+Bobbie Greiner - thank you! Here you go: www.etsy.com/shop/DarnItSewWhat?ref=shopsection_shophome_leftnav
+VeryPink Knits Thank you!!!!
Thanks. Your tutorials are always so clear and easy to follow. I have a question about ssk versus knitting two together tbl?. What is the difference? You mention in the video that the "slip" to the right needle twists the stitches. Is that what makes it different from simply knitting two together through the back loop? Otherwise, the "slip" seems to be just an extra step.
The twisted stitches in the ssk creates a stronger left-lean. I encourage you to work the two stitches next to each other to compare.
Ah. That makes sense. I'll try them out together on a practice swatch. The project I'm doing very definitely says to use ssk, which I am sure is necessary to get the right look. Thanks for the quick reply!!
Is there a way to make it so the ask stitches dont loom twisted?
Is there a right-leaning equivalent to the PSSO?
The easiest way you can get that look is to do a PSSO on the wrong side of the work. The other way to achieve that is to knit two stitches, slip them back on to the left needle, then slip the second stitch over the first, and slip the remaining stitch to the right needle.
The pattern calls for a counterpart decrease at the beginning of the heel needle. Does anyone know how to do this question
I was wondering if I can use this method for moss stitch?
In studying the different decrease videos of all you very talented knitters, I have noticed that in the SSK some of you, slip as if to knit the first one and slip as if to purl the second one, some slip both as if to knit and so forth. I understand that which way you slip changes the direction of the "leg" but I don't see that it changes the direction of the decrease. Does it matter?
+Tish Westman - I encourage you to work them each way, side-by-side, and take a look. There is really very little difference. I like to slip each stitch as-if-to-knit, to give it as much left lean as possible. But there is very little difference between the two methods.
Thank you so much for this video.I am learning a lot by watching your tutorials. I wonder if you could help me with something that is a decrease.....
I just finished my first hat, knit in the round, & I found another pattern for a pretty hat. The pattern is, overall, very easy to understand. However, at the crown, during the decrease rows, there is one spot I can't understand. I spent hours looking for the answer to this. This is what it looks like:
Round 5: *sl2kpsso, p1* --I really can't figure out what to do, & on You Tube, all I can find are videos showing sl2kp2sso, which seems different, in that it adds the number 2 in the psso Maybe they mean the same thing; I don't know.
To start, I realize I am supposed to Slip 2. Do I slip them one at a time or both together? And do I slip them knit-wise or purl-wise?
Then, the letter k comes next, followed by psso. That's where I really get lost.
(If this helps, I would have 80 stitches at the start of the row, & when I finish the row, I'll just have 40.)
I appreciate any help you could possibly give me. Thank you so much. :)
It sounds like what you need is Central Double Decrease or cdd if you search. It is often used fr shaping at the crown of cap. This is a good video showing it. ua-cam.com/video/Z-r_k3bVwMc/v-deo.html .
Can you tell me how do this the Patton said at neck edge on every alternative row as follows 4 sts once them 5sts 8times what dose this mean
Hi Stacey I'm from the UK and I'm an advanced beck net I'm disabled after a spinal I injury. I need to learn how to knit a jumper in a lace pattern and keep the integrity of the pattern whilst increasing or decreasing rows.
I would really appreciate a pattern and tutorials made by you please I would like to start asap please many thanks
Kim
Sophia Minott - Kim, I don't currently have plans for a lace sweater tutorial...I suggest you find a well-written pattern on Ravelry (with a high user rating), and follow that row-by-row. That is a very good path to success!
Good
Hello, I’m new to your channel is there any video showing how to switch yarn into a new colour to create an ombré
Are there decreases that can be done on every round? I'm in need... many thanks in advance.
Yes - you can do any of them every round. The only reason you'd skip a round is because you're wanting a more gradual slope.
@@verypinkknits thanks so much for your quick reply and your expertise. It's greatly appreciated.
Thanks for another superb video. I have a question.
I've found that I prefer the way that my k2tbl looks to the way my ssk looks because my ssk's end up looking really floppy and loose (not to mention it's a bit easier and quicker to k2tbl), but am I "twisting" those two stitches by not twisting them (i.e. by not slipping them knitwise onto the right needle before ktbl)? Or is it essentially the same thing? I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my mind around the difference, if there even is one.
Haha... I hope that last part makes sense. Thanks again!
K2tbl and ssk are different decreases. I encourage you to work them side-by-side to see how they are different. Slipping each stitch as-if-to knit in ssk gives it a stronger left lean.
Thank you for the explanation, I couldn’t figure out the difference.
this is a really great video. I have one question - for psso, the pattern I am currently working on has this decrease but this was the first time I came across this. I know that slipping is pretty much always done purlwise, but I did that and didn't like the look of it with that kind of bar...so instead I slipped knitwise, knit and then passed the slipped stitch and I think it looks a lot better. Not sure if it matters, but for what it's worth I'm a continental knitter.
April Rose - you always slip "as if to purl" unless the pattern tells you otherwise, but it doesn't usually make much difference in that decrease. But it can, depending on the yarn and gauge you're using, and if you like the look of one over the other, by all means, use it! :)
Hi thank you for your helpful clip. I am a beginner knitter and was trying to find a video on how to decrease to shape the top of the sleeve but can't seem to find one. I'm working on a 1940's pattern ,started decreasing one stitch each end .I did the SSK on (LHS) and K tog on (RHS) till 41 stitches remained.Then pattern reads next row take 2 tog each end of row,next row take 3 tog each end of row repeating this 3 times before casting off. I've done this and to be honest it doesn't look very tidy.Do you mind me asking you how you would of done it.I have found video's on knitting the sleeve from picking up from the joined front and back ,lot's showing decreasing on sloped shoulders and I also found one of your's on were decreasing was on short rows with casting off.Hope you don't mind me suggesting some clips showing different ways on how to shape both sides (decreasing)for sleeve caps would be lovely.Thanks again Sharon x
+Sharon Rowland - from what you've given me here, it sounds like the pattern is giving you good, mirrored decreases for shaping. If it doesn't look tidy, it might be something else...like the yarn you're using or the gauge you're using. Regardless, the look should improve with blocking, because the pattern itself looks solid.
Thank you VeryPink Knits x
SSP, your video is different than every other one I viewed. They always say to transfer two stitches knit wise to the right needle (same as yours), then transfer them back to the left needle (same as yours) but then they say purl through the back loop. Yours definitely does not require Purling through the back loop, yours being much easier than theirs. Why this very distinct difference.? I'd rather do your version but I'm wondering why your version is so outnumbered by the purling thru the back loop versions.
+Judy Smith - I've never heard of doing it that way...I just tested out the way you describe side-by-side with the way that I do it, and there is no clear difference that I can see between the two. Either is fine, just choose the one you find easier to work!
Hi. Could you please help me with a V neck decrease on neck edge on EVERY ROW. the pattern calls for this decrease. OR do you have video tutorials on V neck and round neck decreaesess ON NECK EDGE ON EVERY ROW? Thanks for your very kind help. Thanks for sharing and caring. Hugs xxx
Knittyneeds - sorry, I don't have a video demonstrating neck decreases every row, and I'm afraid I can't really give you general advice, because these decreases are going to be really specific to your pattern. I suggest you contact the designer of your sweater pattern for help (Ravelry message is a good way), since she knows her pattern and will be able to give you the exact help you need.
I have a pattern with 2 different symbols one says...
sl2k as if to k2tog, k1, p2sso.
The next one say.. Sl2k, k1, p2sso
What exactly is different apart from the one that says as if to k2tog they seem to be the exact same thing so what would I do differently
Sorry, I've never seen anything like that, it doesn't make sense to me, either. I recommend contacting the pattern designer with your question, Ravelry message is usually a good way to reach designers.
Ok, so I have a question about SSK. What is the function of slipping the stitches? Would it not have the same effect if you K2Tog through the back of the stitches without slipping them? I mean I've done it both ways and I don't notice a major difference, am I missing something?
+Remy Attig - slipping each stitch separately as-if-to-knit gives each stitch a twist, then knitting them though the back loop adds to that twist. The combination of these two steps gives the stitch its left-leaning slope.
+VeryPink Knits Thanks so much, wonder why no one could ever explain it to me. I've watched videos and stuff and no one had ever said that, THANKS!
Thank you for the video, it was really helpful. . My hat has 110 stitches and I want to decrease with a k2tog, k2, ssk style decrease instead of the usual knit 9 knit 2tog, but I don't know how to set it up and where to put the markers for 110 stitcbes. . Advice??
+Patti Kelley - "k2tog, k2, ssk" is six stitches, which doesn't divide evenly into 110. If you want the decreases to be even, you'll need to pick a decrease that is a multiple of 2 or 5 or 10 or 11 (or stick with the pattern as written.)
Could you do a tutorial on how to use to 2 yarns at a time , like a pattern that use different colors
Anita Garcia - I demonstrate fair isle knitting in a few of my tutorials, here is one of them:
ua-cam.com/video/RNtnTcE7Qjs/v-deo.html
Hi. What would be the opposite of the PSSO decrease that would make the decorative part of the stitch slant to the left?
With that decrease, you can make a mirror-image decrease by making the same decrease on the wrong-side of the work, or by passing a stitch over on the LEFT needle (not the right).
@@verypinkknits thank you very much! The stitch seems a little tricky in reverse but I really like the look of it and want to try it.
hi very pink knits, my question is, when you knit two together or ssk decrease, which goes where,for example you said they mirror each other,so would I use knit two together at beginning of decrease ,and ssk at end. hope that makes sense, or can I use one for everything.
+Kuriyez Islam - when you're "mirroring" them, either way is fine. It really depends on the look you prefer.
Where did you get your Ring?
Hi, great video. How do you decrease on a k1 p1 pattern without messing the pattern?
That is designing...getting an idea and drawing it out on graph paper and knitting it...then ripping and reknitting until you get the look you want. The question you've asked is big - there is no way I could answer it here. Depends on CO numbers, the rate you want to decrease, the look you're after, etc. But with a little work, you can write your own pattern for it.
thanks,
so if you were knitting the gusset of a sock and it called for k2tog then ssk, but you wanted to use a different decrease which would you substitute with a psso?
I recommend sticking with the decreases listed in the sock pattern - they are chosen by the direction they lean to make the lines of the gusset look good. But in theory, yes, you can use any one-stitch decrease as a substitution for another.
VeryPink Knits Im trying to come up with my own pattern and just wanted to try something different so it would be k2tog psso instead of k2tog ssk thank you so much for your help
what is YO? after K2 tog?
Are there other right leaning decreases besides the K2tog? Thanks.
Theresa Vasalofsky - not really, not in common use, at least. K2tog is really all you need. :)
I need help . what would be the best one to use if you are decreasing a sleeve when making a raglan sweater. The pattern said to decrease two stitches every 6 rounds. I used the knit two together and it left a rise. it didnt lay flat. Should i use knit two together and also the ssk and if so, which should i do first before and after the marker in the middle of the sleeve
Most sweaters would use k2tog and ssk for sleeve decreases...you want to mirror them around the marker, either consistently k2tog first, or ssk first, either order is up to you.
VeryPink Knits thank you. I really appreciate your response.
what about the sl 1 kntwise, sl 1 pw then k2togtbl? Does it make that much of a difference compared to ssk.
+krystal sund - no, there really isn't much difference. Work the two decreases side-by-side, and take a look for yourself. It's hard to even tell them apart.
will do, Im working on something now so ill see.
What about when you are in a row that you purl and you need to decrease, what are you doing? You just purl 2 together or you do the same thing and instead of knit stich you do a purl stich?
Danai P - decrease rounds aren't nearly as common on wrong-side rows, but yes - you can p2tog, p2togtbl, and psso on the wrong side of the work.
+VeryPink Knits is there a reason you wouldn't want to decrease on the wrong side? I am trying to decrease to a point (like 45 degree angle) and I'm thinking I need to decrease every row back and front.
OK, I think instead I will do a double decrease and then no decreases on the back. though I'd be interested in understand what the difference is or why one is better.
Jennifer May - it's really just a personal preference. I like having all of the "action" on right-side rows to keep things simple.
Thanks!!!
When you say "leans to the left (or right)" does that mean the slant when you're looking at the garment laid flat on the table or when you're wearing it? Thanks
Connie Nunez - when you're looking at it while you're knitting it, or I suppose, laid flat on a table.
traduire en français please
Center Decrease
How to center decrease?
A "center decrease" is usually a double-decrease, like k3tog or "slip 1, k2tog, psso". I recommend contacting the designer of the pattern you're knitting to find out what they mean..."center decrease" could just be referring to a single decrease at the center of the pattern.