Paper Mario vs Archie Sonic - Who would win? | Crossover Colosseum
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- Опубліковано 29 січ 2022
- Who would win in a fight between Sonic the Hedgehog from Archie Comics and Paper Mario, The paper-thin protector of the Mushroom Kingdom? Today we answer that question on Crossover Colosseum.
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That was a great episode it was definitely worth the wait ( ╹▽╹ )
man great episode incrindble i am brazilian but i love your animations also pls make shadow vs zero after wario vs king knight?
Great vid! If you want another fun vid idea, try Animal Crossing Villager vs. Overcooked Chef... :D
Imagine still comparing the two in 2022.
You wrong
Here is the much needed timestamps for this piece of art
0:00 The Intro
0:11 The wise-cracking Archie Sonic
12:10 The silent Paper Mario
18:57 The bit before the Fight
19:18 The Fight
22:26 Why the Winner won
25:30 The next Match-up
You good sir, are the hero we truly needed yet didn't deserve. May God bless you good sir, and all your future endeavors be swift yet sweet.
Mario is Honestly having the Worst luck (Despite that stat when fully leveled up that makes him dodge attacks 97% of the time i think). He gets blasted through a building and the worst beating and eventually sent to a Prison Dimension on his BIRTHDAY. Hopefully he will find a way out.
This is exactly I hope bowser gets karma
And all of this because Sonic wanted his soup
i mean, if he found one in the Underwhere and came across the Overthere (which are literally the 2 sides of the afterlife), then sure can find one in there.
Sonic: "Where did this guy came from?"
Mario: 😫
Sonic "Want to get back to your home?"
Mario: 😔👌
*Credits roll*
@@johnnyplayroblox2578 yup
I love how close your post-analysis always puts the fighters in Smash Bracket and Crossover Colosseum, gives a lot of respect to both of the characters and makes it feel more fair and enjoyable to watch for everyone. That animation was also incredible, and the pre-analysis was also edited very nicely. Excellent work as always, one of your best videos yet!
Uuuuuuuuuuh, no? Bill Cipher got his ass stomped in by Sephiroth.
@@floatingf8783 sephiroth’s matches don’t count he’s too broken
@@TheUltimateDiamond yeah he brought Dis-pear and bill cipher just died
The fact that they have a better understanding of Archie Sonic here compared to Death Battle is just so respectable.
@@e1iteyoshi998 They lowballed the shit out of Archie sonic in this fight and actually made things up about the story. Like they played off the fate thing that sonic has as something that was meant to be literal. But in DB they actually bring up that it’s part of the story that fate bends to sonic. Also the lowballing of both characters shows that they really should have waited until they did complete research on these characters. Instead we got a star level Paper Mario that somehow is stronger than Archie sonic. And Archie sonic is on panel rewriting the entire multiverse. Also they say that Archie is split into 3 different versions even though they are still the same character. Like the panel that they show for the edgy sonic literally confirms that he is the same sonic as the OG sonic. They didn’t have any actual understanding on Archie sonic and it’s only a way for people to misunderstand the character. Hell Base Archie sonic has better feats than what they gave paper Mario in this. Keep in mind they also lowballed Paper Mario and proved they misunderstood Mario by bringing up dimentio and not understanding that his character is literally bare minimum universal. The only thing that they focus on more is there personality which were on point for the most part. Yeah say what you will about DB but they handled Archie Sonic much better.
You know, one thing I would have to give the most props to is the Voice actor for Sonic. Damn, it sounds so good and I could tell he went for a more "Jason Griffth" soundling voice for Super and Ultra Sonic.
“You’re gonna have to go faster than that!” Gave me such beastly werehog vibes and I loved it!
Ayy, that was me! Thank you much!
@@PaxtonLee you did a fantastic job as Archie Sonic! Every line delivery was amazing and the tone of his voice when he starts getting serious sounded great and I just loved his voice overall!
@@PaxtonLee Wait PAXTON?? Like THE Paxton Lee?!? I've heard you on quite alot of other channels (you get around alot dude) like devilartemis. Big fan, you're a great voice actor!
@@amazaine8743 You flatter me, thank you so much!
This was really well done. Archie had way more history behind him than I ever thought he would, and that ending clash was hype as hell. Really looking forward to the next time!
"Beams of light? You're gonna have to go faster than that." Is such a raw line.
That was such a wacky battle, it felt so unreal towards the end. Loved every part of this. Hope Crossover Coliseum grows just as much as the Smash Bracket.
wdym a wacky battle and so unreal?
@@KillerMommylmao he has no excuse, Sonic could’ve finished this even faster.
@@JaysWorlddx fax
@@KillerMommyI think he meant it was unreal in how weird the fight got. I mean, who expected mario to summon a giant cooked turkey to kick sonic in the face, or summon the stars to help him fight?
God... I can tell you genuinely care about both characters, your analysis and respect for both series are a sight to behold and I genuinely can't wait to see where you'll go. Super hyped for the next battle. Consider me a fan!
Yeah, with some other versus series they sometimes ignore personalities and what the character would actually do for the sake of a death
Mario: Kicks a castle
Smash Bracket: "No way, that's clearly an outlier made for a gag."
Paper Mario: Summons a planet sized fan that reverses Earth's rotation
Crossover Colosseum: "Makes sense to us."
In all seriousness though, this is a really fun episode. Looking forward to the next one!
Lol how times have changed 😂 I am excited to see where we put Mario in his rematch with Mega Man!
I'm pumped to see just how broken the team manages to get the main Mario cast once their episodes come up
@@crossovercolosseum680 I'm sure that the castle feat should be used. Mario has shown many displays of super strength. Whether it'd be in the cartoons or games.
@TruSandwich I mean, yeah. Miyamoto's said a number of times that Mario's supposed to be like Mickey Mouse, taking on whatever role is necessary for each appearance.
Mario: (Kicks castle)
Death Battle: Kowalski, analysis.
This felt like an actual Death Battle.
Better tbh a death battle and way better than Archie sonic vs wally west. Archie got downplayed
Death battle just hate sonic character and is extremely biased when DC character are in battle.
@@Aigle662frileux same with dbz they hate sonic and dbz characters which I don't understand why
@@ike3624 That is everything but the truth, Characters such as Wally West and Superman are pretty much just MANY times stronger than Goku and Archie Sonic
BUT FAIR! I felt both characters were done extremely well, I love the dude who narrates this, and the animation is great!
Holy cow, this series is back with a BANG! It's not perfect but the amount of effort and passion from everyone working on it really shows! From the editing and how in depth the analysis is, to the animation having great use of Paper Mario's powers (albeit limited) as well as great visuals, a solid track, and Sonic's speed and voice acting being well executed (though I would've liked just as much use of his powers as Mario), to the post analysis covering not just stats but the characters' personality and tactics. Overall a solid 8/10. If it was a season finale it would've been even better, and definitely outdid Sephiroth vs Bill by a fair bit. Great job, and looking forward to the next episode.
Genuinely surprised some things for Archie weren't mentioned that tilted the fight even more in his favor, like the Cosmic Interstate speed feats, the billion ring aura that would've protected him from transmutations, the various multiversal level opponents, the dismissal of Fate Manip would probably drive a lot of people crazy, and Ultra Sonic's matter manip was scarecly touched on, etc etc. I think the fight is a lot less fair than it was depicted here, but regardless, the animation came out really fun and enjoyable, the writing for the analysis sections are also paced decently as well, your series' are definitely improving as time goes on.
This is something I was curious about: does Sonic have any other instant kill moves aside from the Zone of Silence?
@@rickalbuquerque595 Wish Granting, BFR, and I think Matter Manipulation.
@@DreamcastGenesai As mentioned in the video, wish granting has its limitations, but defeating Mario is way less than rewriting the universe, so it's a bit grey. I can see how the others would work though.
@@rickalbuquerque595 Chaos Control reality manipulation would also do the job.
@@rickalbuquerque595 Yeah, that statement was a bit faulty because Wish Granting using Chaos Energy has basically always worked within Archie. The only "limitations" it has is it isn't really within Sonic's character to use it
You guys did an amazing job on this episode, you can feel the passion and effort put into every corner of it, so glad y’all took the time to make sure this one was complete
This is such an amazing episode! You’ve definitely improved A LOT on editing and it was fun to watch the analysis on both characters and the animations was FANTASTIC, you do not know how satisfied I am with this episode!
So basically a fat plumber made out of paper completely destroys a blue mutant hedgehog's lunch, but then he gets sent to a dimension were only darkness awaits. And to make it worse, it was paperboi's BIRTHDAY.
This may be one of the best premieres in all of Vs show history. I loved how wacky and insane the fight got, and the gradual progression of the fight felt so right. I can't wait to see what the rest of Crossover Colosseum looks like!
This isn't the premiere, Sephiroth vs Bill Cipher was, it was just on the Smash Bracket channel and they just changed the name to avoid the WWE coming after them.
12:40 "Dislikes: Sticking with the same perfect gameplay style" Somebody clearly has a favorite part of the series. And I agree
Can I just say that I enjoyed this more than I thought I would? It's really nice seeing a fight like this where the outcome isn't solely decided by stats alone. This is some good work, especially for a small channel like this one!
I like how they mixed the personality’s like at the beginning sonics personality was gag sonic when he was in super he was like try hard sonic and at the end he was like I forgot the name of the final stage
That was such an amazing fight. I think this is the first VS show that actually made Sonic have personality and seem like a real character. All of that time spent editing paid off a ton, great job.
Thank you so much!
An absolutely stellar battle! The usage of arsenals, choreography, amazing animation and just fun of this fight is fantastic with some beautiful music. I genuinely learned so much more about Paper Mario and Archie Sonic, Paper Mario especially had like WAAAAAY more stuff then I could possibly imagine. I loved Archie Sonics voice and character portrayal it was perfect and genuinely sounds damn near like Jason Griffith, especially the “you’re gonna have to go faster than that!” Line because it’s just gives such werehog energy and I love it. This channel is honestly something that can rival and definitely surpass that of DEATH BATTLE! (and I love death battle!) This is genuinely leaps and bounds above Archie Sonic Vs Wally West. A beautifully well crafted battle, fantastic music, an informative and fun analysis and post analysis, and it was just an absolute joy to watch! 10/10!
Thank you so much for the kind comment!
While I mostly agree with most of your statement I'm still saying death battle did Abit better because they actually include the feats that really make him a powerful opponent not only in his forms,but in his base as well and you gotta admit that "Don't mess with the hog's dogs!" Is a better line but either way loved this video
@@Retr008 hehe yeah it would’ve been nice to see a bit more feats with Sonic and that line was pretty cool. I do enjoy both episodes tho!
I'm genuinely impressed with how good this came out. It has some issues and I feel like this could have gone a little greater in scale but its very good.
Imagine sending someone to the Shadow Realm because they ate your chilli.
That’s like an average Friday for me
And stole your signature recipe, and blew up your house.
This was just fantastic.
From the way that you proved that this was way closer than most thaught, from the amazing animation and different use of their abilities. You and everyone else did amazing Ink, I absolutely adore this episode. Congrats to everyone who participated and helped with this masterpiece. And that next time is hyping me up so much!
Well he kind of didn’t prove it was way closer than people thought in my opinion he kind of had to grasp as straws to even mean this battle fair once he got sonic to 390 billion times faster than light and Mario to barely lightning speed it was over at that point mario could literally never touch sonic ever and when he goes super form it was definitely over at that point cuz his speed in super sonic literally can not be measured this was a slaughter
Don’t get me wrong I still loved the fight but this was just unfair
Okay, first and foremost, that (22:00 - 22:04) is a genuinely badass shot of Mario, and my favorite shot in any episode of yours including Smash Bracket. Secondly, congratulations on your 2nd episode! I enjoyed it a lot. Great animation, great analysis, and great music too! I look forward for the next!
21:50 holy shit, now THAT'S energy! These fights are so well directed!
Even though Sonic won, there are still gonna be a bunch of losers who'll go "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHY DIDN'T YOU PUT ARCHIE SONIC AT OUTERVERSAL" lmao.
He still won, so just roll with it, no pun intended. And appreciate the animation while you're at it.
I fucking hate people like that. They are the reason why vs debating is pretty much a joke like we all have to act like asshats to each other nowadays when our favorite character looses
Edit:wow the people in the comments below proved my point
Nope i seen people claim outerversal Archie sonic in here but i know he was going too win because of the speed difference
@@Mario_Sonic_Pro Not now, but those people will show up. It's Archie Sonic after all, it's only a matter of time, heh.
@@Mario_Sonic_Pro They are, it's just that people aren't liking those comments, or they don't want to go through the effort of making a comment form of it. I saw 3 people in live chat saying: "Oh sonic won, but it's not inaccurate"
Dude your being the toxic one by saying that, there aren’t any at most there saying it was a good episode they just don’t agree with we’re the characters we’re put (except dark but that’s just one person)
The amount of effort you guys put into these videos is amazing. The animation and choice of character design was great. I think that the choice of technique for each character was completely accurate and that the personality of each character was perfectly representing the way that they fought. Bravo.
Amazing battle, one of my favorites from the team easily. The voice acting, the hand drawn bits, the sprite animation, the writing, everything just comes together and it’s amazing. Great job guys
The analysis was done fine enough for me. However, I don't like the idea of Mario surviving the Void in base form. Mario supposedly actually getting hit by it happened off screen, so Tippi could've very well teleported the heroes to safety like when Mario was suffocating in outer space without a helmet. Not that Mario can't have those stats though, since he can be empowered by the Pure Hearts (although he didn't keep them), which are the counter to the Chaos Heart.
@Andrew Jordan That's nice. However, I didn't want to get into a long discussion when commenting on this video, so I don't want to debate here.
Well done on all fronts. Looking foward to the future of this channel.
Wow, applause to y'all. You all did a great job, especially the animators. I didn't expect any of what I just saw in the fight. Look forward to more projects from CC.
"Sayanora, loose leaf loser"
The fight animation was great, though the highlight for me was Sonic's puns, so cheesy yet still hilarious. I loved how you kept Sonic punning and cracking jokes for a lot of the fight, too many fight animations on UA-cam tend to focus on combat only and don't really show the combatants personalities that much and how they would play into a fight.
Really cool! The animation was epic and represented the characters well! 🌟
This was an amazing episode, you guys. It had a great and thorough analysis, and the fight was top notch. Also props to the voice acting for Sonic, because when he said “You’re gonna have to go faster than that” it sounded exactly like Jason Griffith
Hey, that was me! Glad you liked it!
Honestly this is better than a good portion of Death Battle’s Sprite fights. Good job, my sir.
Wow! This is way better than I expected! This is literally your best animation ever!
That's an amazing fight and episode I am so excited to see more of your content in both Smash Bracket and Crossover Colosseum
This is absolutely amazing
22:05 Hay the new atla looking good
Really well done - good research, great music, and fun animation.
Dude, this was AWESOME!!
12:50 This argument is obliterated by the existence of Mario and Luigi Paper Jam.
@@Dei4000 Is literally the same Paper Mario, unless you have evidence that is another character, and if you have.... Explain now and with sources please?
@@jeanduresau paper mario and mario.are the same character that experience the same events one just so happen to be paper (for example)
Regular mario did the events of paper mario, ttyd, super paper mario and it just been written down in a story book which so happen to retell it in paper form if that makes sense (if you want sources) there's alot of references and easter eggs and mentions that paper mario experience the life of regular mario. And a simple answer is. It been written down it can't exist if the story never happened
Damn I thought this was gonna be a stomp. I mean I still guessed right but I definitely underestimated Paper Mario. Great episode btw and you bet I'll be a viewer for years to come!
“Beams of light? You’re gonna have to go faster than that!” What an awesome quote! Like that’s one of the fastest things in existence how are you… oh… oooooh that’s how fast he is.😊
Another amazing battle. Keep up the great work
this was made on my birthday!
Not even a minute in, and I never would have guessed that was a Sonic backstory.
Another episode down and on its own functional channel. Congratulations, and don't lose the momentum.
Which was harder to get through? Tryhard Sonic or Paper Jam?
Very good vid I also like how this really plays on how the characters act aswell as that yell Archie did when he pushed paper Mario into the zone of silence
Great Video! The information for both characters was both a refresher and very informative. The Fight was very well animated and I’m convinced that that’s probably how it would play out. The explanation for why the Victor won was pretty convincing and amazing and overall just a neat Video.
Not to mention the voice for Sonic :)
21:33 I like how Sonic is even angry that Mario ate his chilly dog 🤣
Don't mess with the Hogs Dogs
I'm glad you didn't bring up plot manipulation as so many do, because sonic doesn't actually have that. People claim that sonic "writing his own comics" shows he has plot manipulation, but in reality that just makes the comics fiction within fiction
Finally, someone who speaks my language.
And without mentioning that the first comics were gags, and some people take them to overpower the hedgehog.
@@lycantubeves5992 plus, if sonic writes his own comics, that would make the comics a fiction within a fiction
Now this is how you analyze characters. Death battle still has a long way to go but they kept messing up sonic and Goku and Superman and many more. But we are all human and it’s ok to make mistakes. Also deathbattle never added Sonic and Mario’s personalities when doing their videos, they only look at stats. But as I said they are learning from these mistakes and have been a joy to watch.
Really looking forward to next episode
Rooting for Paper, Betting on Archie. I'm super excited for this!
I’m the opposite (never mind)
Rip
As a Mario fan…Archie sonic stomps paper Mario
@@papermariobasic9203 Didn’t you say paper Mario was like hyperversal
@@wishbushwashbosh6443 yeah but Archie sonic is around Boundless or outerversal while paper is only hyper verse
So, yknow that sonic could've moved through the frozen time, right?
That.. was.. amazing! Can't wait for the next battle!
This was so epic! Can’t wait for the next time!
This is so damn amazing the animation is just amazing and the research is accurate why didn’t I see this channel sooner?
Thanks so much!
@@crossovercolosseum680 You’re welcome
I’m so excited right now!! This is gonna be amazing and I know it!
"You're a danger to my world, and my friends.
THIS WILL SILENCE YOU!"
"Beams of light? You're gonna have to go faster than that!"
BROOO WHY ARE HIS LINES SO COLD AS SUPER SONIC AND ULTRA SONIC SO FIRE
This is my favorite animation battle of all times and Mayr just my favorite animation in all great job!
This is a stellar episode, I don’t necessarily agree with the research (not result I agree with that) but this was an amazing battle non the less and the analysis was still great
Me to I don’t like the fact they lowballed and ignored some feats and hax of both but even then it was still a good episode
You really put a lot of dedication on the analysis and battle. The music choice and puns were done with a lot of care. I think the explanation at the end could have emphatized that Sonic has fate protection and ways to end the fight that counter Mario's superior power, but overall a very good episode.
Thanks for the kind words! The fate protection was mentioned in the analysis. It is a misconception taken from characters either being clinically insane or misattributing curses. I’m glad you enjoyed the fight!
I believe mario/paper mario also have fate manipulation to just cancel out
@@crossovercolosseum680 However, it was said by one of the smartest character's in Archie Sonic multiverse. Don't really think it a misinterpretation.
"Limit? LIMIT?! I've got your limit. RIGHT HERE!" - Archie Sonic
I subscribed and liked because you made the recipe lmao I usually don't actually laugh at videos but that made me crack up. Kudos.
I think you nailed Archie Sonic's dialogue, with the perfect mix of cheesey and dramatic! 👍🦔🔵
Paper Mario could escape the zone of silence easily by just flipping out into another dimension. I'm pretty sure he was going easy on archie sonic, or just decided to let him win at the last minute. He's a nice guy so it's something he would do.
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😂😂😂
My dear goodness this was the best Sonic versus Mario fight I have ever seen I love the parts where Sonic gets angry and I love the animated parts the ending was just immaculate great job I hope this channel grows into a big channel
Why do you hate me? I’m bi
@@omnipotentowlproductions - -/😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑 nasty 🤢
That was amazing! Even better than Sephiroth vs Bill Cipher IMO. Great job, guys!
Ultra Sonic:I'm coming for you Mario NOW I'LL SHOW YOU.
2 reasons why Mario should've won: lucky day badge, or any sort of low HP dodging badge. And the fact paper Mario could've used peach beam to cancel any of Sonic's forms, if it can work for an all powerful wish granting rod it can surely work on a hedgehog with a form of godly power
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Archie Sonic interacted with his own comics, the Peach Beam means nothing to him
@@electric_creeper that Archie Sonic is a gag character and it's not the same entity as the other Archie Sonic, so yeah, you can't use it.
@@lycantubeves5992
Then Archie Sonic still has the chaos factor which makes fate bend to his will
@@electric_creeper Paper Mario/Mario is in inmune to plot, overwrite, reality, time and space manipulation.
I have proofs showing that Mario and His Paper form are the same entity, and no, paper jam is not canon, and everything related to Paper jam falls down due to 2 characters.
Kersti and the Pokey with the crown from sticker star.
Also, when Super Sonic and Hyper Knuckles clashed, they didn't destroyed a universe it was a pocket dimension and is one of the special zones from the games, it is mentioned in the comic and we can compare it with other pocket dimensions and see how less impressive that feat is.
I can’t wait to see the next episode It’s one of my most wanted!
Poor paper Mario… one second he’s celebrating his birthday the next he’s drifting through infinite space
This series is WAY better than death battle! You research is three times more thorough, the explanation for who wins and why is much more thought out, and you take their personalities into account! (Which is actually against the rules of death battle in some ways.)
Ok so this version of ultra Archie sonic is freaking intimidating!
I cant believe I’m saying this but death battle needs to take notes
I look forward to seeing this series and its growth
Its finally here, and about time too! Its the first new member of the colosseum crew!
It didn't matter who won in the end, because this was just really fun to watch. Plus, Mario seems to be pretty powerful on his own
It's crazy how I'm finding this series just now. I feel like compared to how Death Battle handled Archie Sonic's feats and stuff you guys have a better understanding of how the Archie verse works as opposed to Death Battle when they had Sonic fight the Flash. I'm definitely subbing to this channel now. By the way I'm more of a Paper Mario fan than Archie Sonic but i know Archie Sonic was gonna win just cause of how broken he is.
In case you don't know they have another channel called Smash Bracket with Versus battles between smash characters
@@kestrel7493 true, it is absolutely epic. I am so exited for Link VS Ridley.
I would never have expected Paper Mario to use the copy thing from Paper Jam here, but seeing it here made me really happy. Thanks!
hope this grows fast.it really gives me matpat vibes with the visials and thats an hard compliment
I never imagined Paper Mario would be this big of a threat for Archie Sonic. I don't like comparing this series to Death Battle but I really like the use of personality for Archie Sonic here vs how DB did their Archie Sonic video. It really shows how Serious Archie Sonic is when he comes out with how quickly he takes Paper Mario out of the fight. The next fight is going to be a greedy battle for sure. I'm super excited for whenever it comes out.
Tbh this video downplayed archie sonic due to not mentioning many super huge feats. Some of which would end the fight in an instant, which i guess is why they left it out in the first place. Still a really great video though
This sure was an awesome fight to watch between Paper Mario and Archie Sonic
I’ve even reacted to this sprite battle
This battle is amazing!!
The battle I've been waiting for!
21:25 Weird time to bust out your Goku impression, but that was a great one, Super Sonic.
Werehog actually but whatever
@@lightgivemepower6425 wha?
@@floatingf8783 sonic the Werehog... Sonic unleashed...
Boomstick: In the tenfold of this overarchie battle, Paper Mario just got flatten into silence by a squall of Sonic's win'd
Wiz: the winner is Archie Sonic
22:33 No way! I’m part of the predictions! Thanks Crossover Colosseum!! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
I respect this channel for doing both characters their fair share of justice and the animation is truly a w 🥱
Definitely a fun episode and am excited to see what the future holds for this channel, but I feel the conclusion could have been fleshed out just a bit more.
Spoilers Below!
I certainly think Archie Sonic wins this matchup, but the only win condition brought up in the conclusion was sending Mario to the Zone of Silence where it would take him out of the fight. I just kinda wish there was some address of the Return Pipe which I'm confident could take Mario out of the Zone of Silence into Flipside. I'm assuming by the rules that there wouldn't be a way to go from Flipside to the universe where the fight happened and thus Archie still wins, but the animation and conclusion both seem to imply that Mario is just trapped in the Zone of Silence with no way out. I trust the research of this series enough to where I'm sure you took the Return Pipe into consideration for this episode, but without bringing it up in the conclusion or bringing up another win condition it feels like the whole conclusion is missing the big red ribbon to tie everything together.
I feel like I'm probably making a huge deal out of something that doesn't really matter since I agree with the outcome, but I'm used to feeling completely satisfied with conclusions done in the Smash Bracket due to pretty much all bases getting covered while this one felt like it missed a critical part of the debate. I know the episode is really long already, but a 20 second section on how Mario could escape the Zone of Silence with the Return Pipe but couldn't go from Flipside back to the battlefield would have put the conclusion at the level of all other episodes that the Smash Bracket has done.
Still a great video though.
The Zone of Silence wouldn't really have any land that Mario could use the Pipe on (most likely). Plus Sonic has the capability to keep Mario trapped via non-stop sending him back until Mario's Energy is drained by the Zone itself.
And Sonic could just go into the Zone of Silence with Mario and kill him there while the Zone drains Mario of his energy and make sure that he doesn't get up to any funny business. And getting trapped isn't a problem for Sonic since he could come in and out of any Zone as he pleases
@@WrongJoke06 You don't need land in order to use the Return Pipe, it's able to be used in outer space.
Everything else sounds valid, I just wish the video itself had something about how the Zone of Silence gives Sonic the win even if Mario could theoretically escape it since they seem to imply he's trapped with no way out.
@@23mrbee Is because the research was wrong and rushed. Is what happens with a new and fresh VS Show. Obviously they're novice in the community.
@@WrongJoke06 that sounds like a out of character move but it is likely paper mario could able to escape the zone of silence (via the gentle pull) which is a concept of no matter where you are in the universe. You'll always bw able to connect to your special one which was stated by rosalina and a Big role in super paper mario
@@TCBlueFire I'll accept the fact that Paper Mario has the potential to escape it but Archie Sonic could keep him in there via getting rid of the methods of escape temporarily until the Zone of Silence kills Paper Mario.
Also sending him to the Zone of Silence is a last resort move so it ain't out of character
YEEEESSSS!!!!!! King knight vs wario is next!!!
Great battle! But I want to admit that Sonic have high speed then Irrelevant, while he absorb power of Chaos Emeralds he have an ability to broke every Law of Entity, even if we remember how he warp the reality by only running, Super Sonic have omnipotent power ( as it mentioned in Sonic Guidebook), and Super Sonic have power of imagination, he can create, destroy or rewrite everything what he want, as he even beat Solaris ( which one is transcendence and existing in everywhere and nowhere in the same time ) and he easily destroy SpaceTime and Space Continuum with single attack, Sonic have a FateHax and he can the whole dreams from GameVers ( which was shown in Sonic Shuffle), just compared power of Sonic to whole Archie Cosmology, where every single univers have sets in sets, it is like infinity in infinity in infinite times, plus Sonic pretty good at close combat, he is genius and pretty unpredictable, just remember how Mohol punch Sonic ( and Mohol destroy infinite Multiverses with his hands ) but he can't hurt Sonic, Sonic even can erase everything from existence or use his imagination as a weapon ( the only limit for Chaos Emeralds is user imagination). Sonic beat the Void which one is stronger then Archetype, that put Sonic on Boundless level and Tier-0. Sonic beat Erazor Djinn with no difficulty, bl Erazor in his base was absorbing the power of the book and had absorbed 100 out of the 1001 stories, Each story being a universe arguably. He also was relative with infinite who you can get from anywhere from star level to like uni+. And Was going to utilize Chaos Control to revert the effects of the Super Genesis Wave and were going to warp the multiverse's dimensional matrix, which has over 11 dimensions which is comprised of infinite universes, consisting of “infinite variations on infinite possibilities”. Sonic beat Merlina ( Eternal, unchanging, ideal, Immortal are all parts of Plato’s Forms. Merlina, the “creator of Forms” would likely scale up to this or even above it being the creator of it all. Sonic would follow/top up since he has beaten her in battle. Take victory against Enerjak, after all, Sonic can trap Papper Mario in Chaos Emerald, Mario have no chance to escape that one ( even without Sonic use Zoni Silence).
This fight was just super hilarious and fun.
Really good job.
Fun Fact. Archie sonic is so fast that he is immune to time stops. He just kinda said no to it in BASE FORM aginst archie mega man.
When he was turned into a robot by Wily.
They literally show a panel at 10:41 that shows him being affected by it.
Sonic in the blink of an eye could have killed Mario.
That was awesome!
Wow. That...was amazing!