The Terminids Lore and Biology

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  • Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
  • The Terminids are a fascinating species of intergalactic bugs that could spell doom to Super Earth. But, I am here to tell you the truth that the Super Earth Ministry of Truth won't tell you. The bugs.... Transmission ended
    #gaming #helldivers2 #lore #terminids
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  • @CharChar2121
    @CharChar2121 2 місяці тому +1623

    I find the idea of a bug that "thinks" incredibly offensive.

    • @SCARFR3AK
      @SCARFR3AK 2 місяці тому +51

      I'd like to know more!!

    • @TT-DRop
      @TT-DRop 2 місяці тому +55

      Some would even say, treasonous.

    • @CyberLou
      @CyberLou 2 місяці тому +4

      Dotto

    • @CyberLou
      @CyberLou 2 місяці тому

      Fick Ditto

    • @CyberLou
      @CyberLou 2 місяці тому +4

      I mean damn Ditto

  • @brodiddy877
    @brodiddy877 Місяць тому +1270

    POV:
    I found an illegal broadcast
    Me: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin Місяць тому +40

      500kg pure democracy

    • @plotheplayer6462
      @plotheplayer6462 Місяць тому +7

      is that the terminal or the eagle

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin Місяць тому +16

      @@plotheplayer6462 That is 500kg of democracy. So yes, its the Eagle. 😁

    • @brodiddy877
      @brodiddy877 Місяць тому +2

      @@plotheplayer6462 🦅

    • @musicwithj1759
      @musicwithj1759 Місяць тому

      Wow a very unique original comment

  • @nathandiaz6929
    @nathandiaz6929 2 місяці тому +490

    Bro, the biles go from: That one fat kid at school who gets bullied to the 7 foot tall body builder at the gym

    • @agent7official
      @agent7official Місяць тому +16

      Bile titan glow up lmao

    • @wolfuniversalbreaker8516
      @wolfuniversalbreaker8516 Місяць тому +13

      The first time I saw the bile titan I freaked out and when it used its bile spew laser I screamed gojira

  • @llllTatollll
    @llllTatollll Місяць тому +264

    By liberty the sheer amount of thought crimes in 12 minutes

  • @nathanwood7525
    @nathanwood7525 2 місяці тому +506

    I really like this idea. Like Alot.
    Reminds me of how some ants have "majors" and "super Majors" or just how some ants have a warrior cast.

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  2 місяці тому +48

      Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed the idea. It really seems like the devs did their bug research when they were making the terminids

    • @Fordbonelab
      @Fordbonelab Місяць тому +8

      This seems like treason

    • @bordigotto6603
      @bordigotto6603 Місяць тому +16

      ​@@natesgameboxsome ant hives even have ants with big flat heads made specifically to block the anthill entrances, reminds me of hive guards

    • @Westwoodshadowgaming
      @Westwoodshadowgaming Місяць тому +3

      Agreed this made me think of ants too!

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 Місяць тому +2

      They all come from similar larve though and just fill one role their entire lives. They don't go from larve to worker to soldier or something.

  • @bloodclover2664
    @bloodclover2664 Місяць тому +205

    From what i remember from helldiver 1 lore, the bile titan is still considered a juvenile.

    • @Plushleftyyyy
      @Plushleftyyyy Місяць тому +37

      erm *what.* a *juvenile?*

    • @presentrama
      @presentrama Місяць тому +41

      I’m afraid to see an adult
      Or the hive mind

    • @the-dn3zw
      @the-dn3zw Місяць тому +17

      @@PlushleftyyyyBasically a teenager

    • @Daytruin
      @Daytruin Місяць тому +15

      i'm guessing terminids will have a leviathan like starcraft 2 for the zerg and it's so massive it dwarfs even the largest Carriers and Battle cruisers like terrifyingly larger (at true scale , not ingame). imagine we have to fight a massive creature so large it takes up 1/6th of the entire map. I can't wait for the future of this game.

    • @rush_17
      @rush_17 Місяць тому +16

      Yeah they are considered small on their home planets.

  • @unstableatom9922
    @unstableatom9922 2 місяці тому +288

    There are Bile warriors. They explode in green when shot

    • @DarthMizinth
      @DarthMizinth 2 місяці тому +62

      Also the nursing spewers are orange

    • @cringejoestar9791
      @cringejoestar9791 Місяць тому +47

      Yup, there's also leapers which are baby hunters

    • @Apha-Apha
      @Apha-Apha Місяць тому +29

      @@cringejoestar9791Pouncers**

    • @cringejoestar9791
      @cringejoestar9791 Місяць тому +9

      @@Apha-Apha you right

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 Місяць тому +3

      I think it's a case of male and female versions of the same caste

  • @jonathandomeraski7259
    @jonathandomeraski7259 Місяць тому +115

    Calling the ministry of truth. There will be a democracy officer at your residence momentarily. Spreading blasphemy will not be tolerated.

  • @headazrd
    @headazrd 2 місяці тому +164

    I'm going to go out on a limb here and say they operate pretty much how a termite and ant colony does, which would explain the variations all being so similar to the next smallest in line, traceable all the way back to both scavengers.

  • @MrMarzh
    @MrMarzh Місяць тому +65

    Its not a secret, there are hive lords hiding in plain sight. Fossils of them and in helldivers 1 it was a boss.

    • @CrazyDutchguys
      @CrazyDutchguys Місяць тому +13

      Plot twist, they're not fossils, they're molts

    • @Hartyyy04
      @Hartyyy04 23 дні тому

      @@CrazyDutchguyswell that’s not terrifying at all

  • @Fresh_yams
    @Fresh_yams Місяць тому +81

    Oh god the titan is a sex icon

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +39

      Of all comments I expected to see when I turned my computer on today, this was never what I expected.
      Well done helldiver, you won the best comment. Here’s a medal! 🏅

    • @HankTheMailman96
      @HankTheMailman96 Місяць тому +4

      This needs to be pinned immediately

    • @sandran17
      @sandran17 25 днів тому +1

      'Oh no he's HOT!!!'

  • @internetuser320
    @internetuser320 Місяць тому +95

    I like how the bugs offered hug and we just fucking killed them, genetically modifed them and harvested their corspe 😂😅

    • @kyledabearsfan
      @kyledabearsfan Місяць тому

      They offered only communism.

    • @Chunketymonketyz
      @Chunketymonketyz Місяць тому +5

      Treason

    • @internetuser320
      @internetuser320 Місяць тому +2

      @@Chunketymonketyz trason? *Truth*

    • @Chunketymonketyz
      @Chunketymonketyz Місяць тому +5

      @@internetuser320 i don’t understand why you think those words are related in any way

    • @Fordbonelab
      @Fordbonelab Місяць тому +5

      I’m calling a democracy officer

  • @matthewgerlach5775
    @matthewgerlach5775 Місяць тому +113

    Bile Titans are considered small on their home planet

    • @derpanzerfish2517
      @derpanzerfish2517 Місяць тому +4

      *medium

    • @matthewgerlach5775
      @matthewgerlach5775 Місяць тому +15

      @@derpanzerfish2517 nah dude not even medium, they are SMALL

    • @creed1741
      @creed1741 Місяць тому

      ARE THEY GOING TO INTRODUCE EVEN BIGGER BUG TYPES?​@@matthewgerlach5775

    • @mazda9588
      @mazda9588 Місяць тому +3

      elaborate

    • @solisruben296
      @solisruben296 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@mazda9588there's always a bigger bug

  • @westonsimmons561
    @westonsimmons561 Місяць тому +84

    So whos gonna tell him about the genetic experimention and how we aren't fighting first contact bugs at all or the bugs in the first game

    • @isaacdayton4962
      @isaacdayton4962 Місяць тому +21

      aren’t they basically rabid animals now rather than sentient like they used to be

    • @christinarieser2025
      @christinarieser2025 Місяць тому +1

      What about hive lords?

    • @The-Enemy-Medic
      @The-Enemy-Medic 12 днів тому +1

      @@isaacdayton4962 I think they are very much sentient but evolved into a hivemind and started mutating for war.

    • @isaacdayton4962
      @isaacdayton4962 12 днів тому +1

      @@The-Enemy-Medic from my understanding they are basically so hostile to everything else that they wipe planets of almost all life. It’s why the Terminid super colony is such an issue.

    • @westonsimmons561
      @westonsimmons561 10 днів тому +1

      @christinarieser2025 we see the sheds of them and notice the seismic activity on bug worlds?

  • @CharChar2121
    @CharChar2121 2 місяці тому +213

    This isn't what "evolution"means. You're talking about metamorphosis.

    • @cameronphares2482
      @cameronphares2482 Місяць тому +43

      ah yes, the semantics officer. Right up there with the freedom officer.

    • @cornbread6556
      @cornbread6556 Місяць тому +3

      Metamorphosis is basically a type if evolution

    • @Auvas_Damask
      @Auvas_Damask Місяць тому +43

      ​@@cornbread6556Evolution is change, adaptation. This is just getting bigger and older

    • @Kolokommouna
      @Kolokommouna Місяць тому

      ​@@cornbread6556not really, metamorphosis is a natural stage in a species' life span. Evolution is a change in an organism's genetics, changing how that lifespan plays out.
      Humans f.e. don't evolve from children to adults to elders

    • @parks8814
      @parks8814 Місяць тому +6

      @@Auvas_Damaskpretty sure there’s some significant change when it between the likes of bile spewers to bile titans or warriors-hive guard-charger.
      I would say though that those changes would be more apt to be called metamorphosis I can imagine as a warrior got to the right age it would burry or cocoon itself and come out later as a hive guard and then once again into a charger

  • @mikehawk486
    @mikehawk486 Місяць тому +31

    There's also something to be said about the egg size. A scavenger sure as hell couldn't lay that.

    • @Daytruin
      @Daytruin Місяць тому +1

      ......but what if they can ( like out of necessity? because it's race all died), can it change it's sex at will to repopulate the terminids? now that is gender fluidity if i've ever seen it.

  • @Will_makes_memes
    @Will_makes_memes Місяць тому +55

    Orange - warrior - commander
    Orange - hive guard - charger
    Small - hunter - stalker
    Small - hunter - shrieker
    Green - bile spewer - bile Titian
    Green - bile spewer - nursing spewer

    • @theneef174
      @theneef174 Місяць тому +6

      Scavenger > Warrior > Brood Commander
      Scavenger > Warrior > Nursing Spewer > Potentially Bile Spewer
      Scavenger > Hive Gaurd
      Scavenger > Warrrior > Charger > Behemoth Charger
      Spitter > Bile Warrior
      Spitter > Bile Spewer
      Spitter > Bile titan
      Pouncer > Hunter > Stalker
      Pouncer > Hunter > Shrieker

    • @kylestanley7843
      @kylestanley7843 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@theneef174 I suspect nursing spewers are connected to scavengers rather than little spitters.

    • @xeno3332
      @xeno3332 Місяць тому +4

      @@theneef174 theres a bile version of the warrior and the bile spitter is the bile version of a nursing spewer. nursing spewer goes to orange

    • @theneef174
      @theneef174 Місяць тому

      @@xeno3332 Ah, true, I'll edit.

    • @ultbug03
      @ultbug03 Місяць тому

      Isn’t stalkers human made dna modified hunter?

  • @theunholyadventurer2376
    @theunholyadventurer2376 Місяць тому +25

    Aren't the terminids vastly different from the bugs from the first game due to genetic tampering/modifications done by Super Earth? As well as the whole bile line being a result of toxic chemical spills?

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +7

      Oooooo I like that take!! Yes! The bugs were highly modified, but I hadn’t considered that the bile spewing traits could have come directly from either intentional modification, or accidental spills. I like the take!

    • @theunholyadventurer2376
      @theunholyadventurer2376 Місяць тому +7

      @@natesgamebox Yeah its been actually stated by the devs from official accounts that the bile line came from toxic chemical spills

    • @Fordbonelab
      @Fordbonelab Місяць тому +2

      We did nothing but farm the bugs, totally

  • @Randomrobot-fs4du
    @Randomrobot-fs4du 2 місяці тому +30

    its not pure conjecture, we know that bile titans are technically "small" bugs

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin Місяць тому +9

      we absolutly need bigger bugs for the higher dificultys. i mean u get bile titans as mission targets on difficulty 6 i think. we need somthing really big as mission target for difficulty 9.

    • @Randomrobot-fs4du
      @Randomrobot-fs4du Місяць тому

      @@J.Severin im not kidding, thats their designation

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin Місяць тому

      @@Randomrobot-fs4du me neither. 😁

    • @Randomrobot-fs4du
      @Randomrobot-fs4du Місяць тому +2

      @@J.Severin yeah, i want a hive lord

    • @ZeroDim
      @ZeroDim Місяць тому +6

      ​@@J.SeverinHive lords will start showing up of we progress into the Terminid Home sector

  • @tyberiousTem
    @tyberiousTem Місяць тому +3

    I find the idea that the terminids are sentient incredibly undeomocratic

  • @roomtempwater1
    @roomtempwater1 Місяць тому +45

    I’m gonna be honest the bug life cycle theory was kinda obvious I figured it was just implied

    • @unwariestthreegames1151
      @unwariestthreegames1151 Місяць тому +4

      same but I'm glad I wasn't the only one xD

    • @MDestron2282
      @MDestron2282 Місяць тому +6

      Same. I'm just watching this kinda bewildered by people not seeing it. It's obvious.

  • @suruxstrawde8322
    @suruxstrawde8322 Місяць тому +16

    I love the way this game makes fun of overzealous patriotism and humanities horrid psychological pitfalls. Polarizes the fans in a very useful way.

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +1

      In 2024, and game that can generate buzz outside the game. Will probably do well. I’m here for it, helldivers has been great. Baldurs gate, lethal company. Great year for games so far

    • @gabrielsanchez5553
      @gabrielsanchez5553 Місяць тому +1

      100% Even Palworld did super good by statements like "slave pokemon with guns" buzzing controversy outside the actual game.

  • @VladStrelkov
    @VladStrelkov 2 місяці тому +48

    I felt the non spewing scavenger looks like tiny chargers

    • @unwariestthreegames1151
      @unwariestthreegames1151 Місяць тому +14

      have you seen when they stamp their feet like one as well? now I don't want to sound like a bug sympathiser but its cute as shit they think their scary

    • @harold_bryant
      @harold_bryant Місяць тому +4

      @@unwariestthreegames1151 its like chihuahuas thinking they are the biggest dog ever

  • @cinderpsycho1985
    @cinderpsycho1985 Місяць тому +9

    Some species of Ants have several queens and therefore don't send out flyers to breed with others so bile titans acting as queens makes total sense

  • @Cakeandnanna9091
    @Cakeandnanna9091 Місяць тому +9

    For all the people saying he forgot bugs. Not all the bugs have a single picture of just themselves and no background so its easier to just skip them than actually play and grap a screenshot and edit the background out

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +5

      Now THAT is incredibly true. Thank you for bringing that up!! I was able to find good pics for most of the bugs.
      But I’m working on the automatons video next, mannnnn there is not many good pics around for some of them.

  • @connormashburn8560
    @connormashburn8560 2 місяці тому +48

    I would say you’re close but just a bit off, I would say they are not based on sexes, but more like an ant colony having differing features based on job. Such as workers, warrior, repletes, and queen. Similarly there are 3 scout variants that I think start the lines off the green bile ones, the orange ones, and the mini hunter ones.

    • @jeremym4451
      @jeremym4451 2 місяці тому +3

      What about termites? I'm pretty sure some of them spit acid and have a termites have 50/50 I think

    • @cringejoestar9791
      @cringejoestar9791 Місяць тому

      ​@jeremym4451 potentially although there are also species of ants that do all sorts of stuff, be it shoot acid, chemically brainwash other ants or use a hardened forehead like a door. There's even one species that explodes when it's losing a fight/is overwhelmed and can't win.

    • @jeremym4451
      @jeremym4451 Місяць тому

      @@cringejoestar9791 I know ants are quite insane but I'm throwing everything at it

    • @cringejoestar9791
      @cringejoestar9791 Місяць тому +1

      @jeremym4451 entirely valid actually, from what can be gathered terminids also have a closed circulatory system and potentially also bones of some kind so they've got bits of various things scattered into them with a surface of insectoid

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 Місяць тому

      ​@@jeremym4451well they are called TERMInids. The TERMIte influence seems more likely than ants

  • @cinnaren6223
    @cinnaren6223 Місяць тому +3

    Bile Spewers and Bile Titans have forelegs, they're just much smaller. Chargers also have small claws folded up underneath them, next to their heads. All terminids have six legs.

  • @SP00KYM4NH3R3
    @SP00KYM4NH3R3 Місяць тому +11

    Personally, I don't think the Charger is an older Hive Guard, Guards look like they are at their end of the life cycle, like adults, but warriors either develop into a guard, or brood commander, and I think the reason Chargers look so different to most other bugs is because it's just a mutation that can occur. I don't think any other bug has a solid grey chitinous exoskeleton.

    • @MisterCynic18
      @MisterCynic18 Місяць тому +5

      Hive guards and brood commanders look so similar I've confused them in the field. I suspect they are directly related developmentally, with chargers being either a separate branch off of warriors or literally just overgrown scavengers that skipped the warrior stage altogether.

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +5

      You bring up a great point here. I like that idea as well. My thought was just armor leads to more armor. But that’s true that nothing else looks like that.
      They could be kind of like the dachshunds of the space bug world. Just unique little guys

    • @therandomcommenter6629
      @therandomcommenter6629 Місяць тому

      Super earth did do genetic experimentation on the terminids during the 100 years of peace so the bugs we are fighting now are slightly different from the bugs that were fought in the past I believe we can safely assume that any developmental or genetic anomaly / discrepancy that simply wouldn't make sense in the life cycle is probably a example of that

  • @Enonymous99
    @Enonymous99 Місяць тому +5

    ORANGE
    Scavenger - Nursing Spewer
    Hive Guard - Charger
    Pouncer - Shrieker
    Hunter - Stalker
    Warrior - Brood Commander
    GREEN
    Bile Spitter - Bile Warrior
    Bile Spewer - Bile Titan
    Hive Lords are father of all

  • @will_para9ps456
    @will_para9ps456 Місяць тому +10

    Well. There is a hive lord 👀 that could spawn bug breaches. So there’s your master hive mind

  • @FalkonNightsdale
    @FalkonNightsdale 2 місяці тому +12

    It's sort of reminiscent of how aliens worked in the game X-COM: Apocalypse

  • @duncan8602
    @duncan8602 Місяць тому +5

    A lot of Eusocial bugs, (the hive species) don't really conform to male/female biology (or gender ideas) There's typically three-ish sexes, depending on development. The scavenger-guard-charger/scavenger-hunter-stalker could be Showing that sexual trimorphism seen in real world hive species. However, that does beg the question of where do the shreikers come into this?

    • @therandomcommenter6629
      @therandomcommenter6629 Місяць тому

      The shriekers are a mutation created from the termicide the bile line was specifically stated by the devs to be a result of chemical spills there was obviously a developmental cycle but it is heavily being influenced by outside genetic interference and experimentation

  • @jhorbirnlokrisson6528
    @jhorbirnlokrisson6528 Місяць тому +2

    Most of the changes were done by exsperimentation and studies conducted by us.
    The Officers admit it on our ship; futher more what we have are different sub-species of bugs and that connects to how we have nursing spewers and Bile spewers

  • @jamesbrooks2179
    @jamesbrooks2179 Місяць тому +4

    "Hold the Scavenger. hold them gently like hamburger, squish them squish them all."
    Transcript from *The Super Earth Guide to Raising Terminids for Intelligent Super Earth Citizens*

  • @spectre2803
    @spectre2803 Місяць тому +1

    Another thing, if you look at the Bile Titan's mission description, it mentions having to take them out so the bugs can stop expanding, something along those lines, so Bile Titans likely did lay the eggs but we have confirmation via mission description

  • @hiccup6129
    @hiccup6129 Місяць тому +8

    Imagine there's another species that hunts bile titans

    • @derpanzerfish2517
      @derpanzerfish2517 Місяць тому +4

      They‘re considered medium enemies in the code and the first game

  • @jjlopez7720
    @jjlopez7720 Місяць тому +3

    I had a group of bugs sympathizing with me but...that was their greatest mistake

  • @Medkips
    @Medkips Місяць тому +1

    Ants are a really good example of how a single species can have a large variety of genomes due to the diet or some form of influence when they are in the egg stage and I believe the terminids work off a similar system hence why we seem to have the three smaller bug variants of the ankle biters that then branch off into other sub species like some become stalkers while the other winged ones become shriekers. It's really cool the details they put into this game and I can't get enough of it.

  • @jplichta
    @jplichta Місяць тому +7

    Both the bugs and the bots are far easier to root for than super earth lmao

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому +9

      I love how good of a job the devs did at making the game fun to play, but also very clear we aren’t exactly the good guys

    • @Fordbonelab
      @Fordbonelab Місяць тому +2

      Treason

    • @tovisinclair6135
      @tovisinclair6135 Місяць тому +2

      I'm reporting you

    • @therandomcommenter6629
      @therandomcommenter6629 Місяць тому

      How like what situation would I actively betray humanity like yeah I get it super Earth isn't exactly what us modern western folk would consider the perfect society but compared to getting eaten by bugs or literally slaughtered like cattle by the robots have you seen their bases all of the corpses they have in crates they literally have cages and altars and shit

    • @olafgurke4699
      @olafgurke4699 29 днів тому +1

      That sounds like treason to me.

  • @DashingRogue1223
    @DashingRogue1223 Місяць тому +2

    You missed the pouncers->hunters evolution but I totally agree with orange scavengers evolving into either warriors or pouncers, depending on their infantry vs special forces designation.

  • @thatokperson
    @thatokperson Місяць тому +7

    Heracy! Terminate this illegal broadcast!

  • @assassinzade9494
    @assassinzade9494 Місяць тому +10

    propaganda!!!!! I’m reporting you to my correctional officer

  • @Fordbonelab
    @Fordbonelab Місяць тому +1

    I personally live on a planet not used by super earth, and have gained authorization to raise and farm scavengers, it did not go well for the wild life

  • @mastervule1844
    @mastervule1844 2 місяці тому +1

    I think term you are searching for is "morphs" when talking about same species/different look thing in bugs :P
    Which is really cool idea for sentient bug specias, you would expect of it to have super complex morphology and social system

  • @Tanksnstuffs
    @Tanksnstuffs 18 днів тому +1

    Automatons are trying to get bugs on their side. We need to stop that.

  • @haunter8o6
    @haunter8o6 Місяць тому

    There's also a scene in the trailer for HD2 where the helldiver pops the bile titan's head off with a rocket and all the surrounding bugs that were facing the titan were in utter horror. This is when I figured they might be one or species or group.

  • @SuperSupper2
    @SuperSupper2 Місяць тому

    When talking about eusocial insects, they tend to have ways of manipulating larvae to develop into specific forms like the door ant, or how bees feed royal jelly to produce a queen. Vying for positions like commander are foreign concepts to those in a eusocial system where function determines action.
    That said, even in species where their is conflict for role (such as gamergates like trapjaws), there is little change to overall structure.

  • @mikehawk486
    @mikehawk486 Місяць тому

    The grandfather's b01 helmet has to be my favorite version of it.

  • @TheMagnumDon
    @TheMagnumDon 22 дні тому

    funny thing
    I compared the Terminids to the Tyranids through how they're Arthropods with Dragon/Bat-like wings instead of Insect-like wings
    before I even thought about how close their names are

  • @fishplatinum6104
    @fishplatinum6104 Місяць тому +1

    remember that most of the termanids we fight are mutated by Super Earth not just regular evolved and adapted animals

  • @sonofradar9745
    @sonofradar9745 15 днів тому

    I got a overwolf ad in the corner with a Terminid on it lol

  • @itsthelepto
    @itsthelepto Місяць тому

    Im guessing the relation of the nursery spewer and the bile spewer is that the former forfeited armor since it probably prioritized nursing the baby bugs

  • @Friendlyneighborhoodreaper
    @Friendlyneighborhoodreaper Місяць тому

    The charger looks a lot like a huge scavenger to me. About as chunky, about the same shape, just with thicker armor

  • @caranguejo_italiano
    @caranguejo_italiano Місяць тому +6

    So we are the bad guys?

    • @natesgamebox
      @natesgamebox  Місяць тому

      Wellllllllllllll. We aren’t exactly good

    • @cheezyboy69
      @cheezyboy69 Місяць тому

      @@natesgameboxtraitor

    • @manic8995
      @manic8995 Місяць тому

      No that's treason, now face the wall

    • @sharkguest223
      @sharkguest223 Місяць тому

      @@natesgameboxreporting to a democracy officer

    • @cheezyboy69
      @cheezyboy69 Місяць тому

      @@sharkguest223 good idea

  • @being_of_draconic_descent
    @being_of_draconic_descent Місяць тому

    when you think about it, each one being simply a different stage of life would make certain balancing decisions make much more sense. the chargers are lesser in number, and their armor on their heads more fragile because they've had less time. less big bugs are around, and more small ones are.

  • @thomasseamenacetoysgamesan155
    @thomasseamenacetoysgamesan155 25 днів тому

    The bile spewer can split off into a nursing spewer, also, the Stalker could become a screamer, the flying one

  • @doinkboinkly2153
    @doinkboinkly2153 Місяць тому

    The rear portion of an insect is actually called the abdomen. The mid section where the legs are connected is the Thorax

  • @cinnaren6223
    @cinnaren6223 Місяць тому

    Super Earth initially found rich deposits of oil on Terminid controlled planets. Super Earth only realized halfway through the war for said oil that Terminids decay rapidly into oil. (Source: Ship scientist quotes and war update logs from Helldivers 1) Also 'relatively sentient' really undersells how social and intelligent the terminids are. They outmaneuvered a civilization with artillery, air support, nuclear weaponry, and rapid space travel.

  • @Domab.
    @Domab. Місяць тому

    honestly i think there are 3 categories of bugs
    *Orange bugs:*
    Hive guard --> Charger --> behemoth charger
    /
    scavenger --> warrior --> brood commander
    *White, orange winged bugs:*
    Shrieker
    /
    pouncer --> hunter --> stalker
    *darker, bile spewing bugs:*
    bile spitter --> bile warrior --> nursing spewer --> bile spewer --> bile titan
    based on colour schemes and physical characteristics, like wings or bile spitting, they can be divided into 3 'catergories' or life cycles that look distinctively different from eachother, so i dont think its just a difference between male and female, but rather they operate on potentially a 3 sex basis

  • @cheesehead_man1375
    @cheesehead_man1375 Місяць тому

    Reminds me of how ants often have different body plans for different jobs, while still being one species

  • @the23rdradiotower41
    @the23rdradiotower41 Місяць тому

    You know I bet all the bile could be used for breaking down the food that all the “oranges” bring back. Like digestive acid that could break food down to allow for the other more specialized terminids (who probably lack more complicated digestive systems) to consume and continue the hunt.

  • @r3dw0lf404
    @r3dw0lf404 Місяць тому

    one more thing... in the trailer u see a helldiver shooting a bile titans head of... this titan is sourroundet by warrioir bugs, seemingly interacting with them...

  • @arspsychologia4401
    @arspsychologia4401 Місяць тому +1

    Leafcutter ants will create little outposts around the trees to keep an eye on the forest and get a wider hunting ground. Sounds like stalker lairs to me.

  • @muratonuryilmaz5385
    @muratonuryilmaz5385 Місяць тому

    I thought the same thinks as you since my first time playing this game and also don't forget that green acid could be very much a deffensive evolution for not getting eaten (as acid would damage other party and just killing for eating the head would be a waste of both time and energy)

  • @Gibson7Clans
    @Gibson7Clans 2 місяці тому

    Can you do apart 2 of this, about the new flying bugs, and the up and coming truelly massive worm bugs. 😊

  • @TheDapperSaint
    @TheDapperSaint Місяць тому

    I'm actually more inclined to believe they are different evolution strands based on certain goals for the nest with the bile spewers being a big one.
    It isn't ever explained what type of food terminids eat, but I've always theorized that they eat both organic and inorganic material as it would explain how they thrive of on plants they infest. It would also explain why scavengers are called exactly that as it would be an Alternative to the hunters as a good source of food.
    The big one for me though are the spewers and there corrosive bile that mostly like is able to break down materials for the hive.

  • @Balagnugnes
    @Balagnugnes Місяць тому +2

    I wish you showed more bug types like the normal scavenger and also the younger huntet varient known as the pouncer
    I do really like the male/female theory although whats the deal with the nursing spewer given its just a yellow bile spewer

  • @Panic_Pickle
    @Panic_Pickle Місяць тому

    It is worth noting that the winged bugs are canonically a result of a failed pesticide, so possibly something that was in their evolutionary history that the pesticide triggered the latent genes for, akin to how you can chemically cause axolotls to grow into a relatively normal salamander despite their life cycle no longer naturally leading them to go through that change.

  • @coldwarrior3794
    @coldwarrior3794 Місяць тому

    I’ve had the same thought, specifically about the bile line.

  • @cinnaren6223
    @cinnaren6223 Місяць тому

    Terminids aren't seen actually eating humans. The most interesting hypothesis I have seen are that terminids have a mutual relationship with a fungus like some ants, essentially farming fungus colonies for food. This explains the spore spewers and slime mold-like structures you find across terminid areas, as well as the little fungus stalk common samples.
    Also, bile castes (developed by genetic augmentation in super earth captivity) live alongside the other terminids, despite being radically different in appearance and presumably chemical signature. This implies that terminids have higher-level communication and thought than you'd think, because otherwise bile terminids would be treated as outsiders. Instead, they are welcomed amongst their mainline brethren despite bile being quite volatile and toxic to other terminids.

  • @gabrielsanchez5553
    @gabrielsanchez5553 Місяць тому

    The terminids have aesthetic characteristics of termites and giand water bugs while not having antennae like fleas or insect close relatives proturas. However, I feel that the stalker and hunters do have a resemblance to Mayflies and the charger with giant water bug. Also those terminal filaments looks like the giant water bug terminal filaments. I am no expert but went on a rabbit hole to find bugs with no antennae (like fleas) and with similar looking terminal filaments (giant water bug and Mayflies and some termites).

  • @parks8814
    @parks8814 Місяць тому +1

    The only flaw in your theory is that there is a difference between bile spewer and nursing spewers/ the male and female variety. There is a bile warrior so it would make sense that there are two races/types of scavengers that evolve differently going from orange scavenger-warrior-brood commander or hive guard and if it grew into a hive guard it would evolve to a charger and the green/bile scavengers go to bile warrior-bile spewer/nursing spewer depending on gender-bile titan. And then with the winged scavengers they could branch into either hunters or the flying guys and if they grew to hunters they would then grow into stalkers.

    • @parks8814
      @parks8814 Місяць тому

      To clarify lines would go like this
      Scavenger-warrior-brood commander
      Scavenger-warrior-hive guard-charger
      Bile scavenger-bile warrior-bile spewer/nursing spewer-bile titan
      Pouncer-hunter-stalker
      Pouncer-hunter-shrieker

  • @sinxxu
    @sinxxu Місяць тому

    I personally think the stalker is an experiment since its so far removed and spawns the nest near research stations ive noticed

  • @Koppu1doragon
    @Koppu1doragon 2 місяці тому +3

    Was there ever a question of rather or not these were all the same species with a mix of sub species and different ages?

    • @KT-pv3kl
      @KT-pv3kl Місяць тому

      they are a single species just like ants of termites that have a great variety of specialized phenotypes for different tasks like warrnors , workers , drones , queens etc

    • @Koppu1doragon
      @Koppu1doragon Місяць тому

      @@KT-pv3kl Was there ever a question of rather or not these were all the same species with a mix of sub species and different ages?

    • @KT-pv3kl
      @KT-pv3kl Місяць тому

      @@Koppu1doragon they arent sub species its all the exact same species and yes different bugs are juveniles of the larger variants.

  • @elijahdrown4349
    @elijahdrown4349 Місяць тому

    The idea that chargers are evolved or older hive gaurds makes complete sense when you remember that charges will often hibernate underground in the center of a large nest and awaken when a threat is detected! I also wonder whether any understanding of the terminids biology can be drawn from earth bugs. Fun thought crimes to ponder about non the less!

  • @tedcruz212
    @tedcruz212 Місяць тому

    I think the orange and green are separate species or subspecies, but both strains have different metamorphic stages, ending with the bile titan and charger respectively. I do think the hunters, stalkers and flying ones are a branch of the orange metamorphic branch.

  • @01eksii
    @01eksii Місяць тому

    Hivemind theory contradicts the whole "bug culture" thing, if they are under rule of a single sentient mind, why conflict with each other, "send" stalkers fir elimination, etc

  • @justaguy6216
    @justaguy6216 Місяць тому

    You forgot to mention the pouncer, which seems to be a younger version of the hunter. And the nursing spewer, who seem to be a less toxic version of bile spewers.

  • @justsomedude4469
    @justsomedude4469 Місяць тому

    5:30 you know in the first game theres an enemy thats grey version of hive guard and it would put testicle spikes a few feet from it that would stab up.
    I think the hive gaurd could become this maybe possibly idk

  • @jbuno1426
    @jbuno1426 Місяць тому

    Another version of this idea is that the bugs are eusocial like ants and termites. There's different types of let's say ants, worker and warrior ants are the same but have different roles like you mentioned in the video

  • @benjamintan6750
    @benjamintan6750 29 днів тому

    The small green spitter now does damage over time

  • @khaliqdavidson2867
    @khaliqdavidson2867 Місяць тому +2

    I honestly feel most of the bugs are female. That how it usually is in termite and ant colonies. And orange can't mean male because the nursing speewer exists and is essentially a weaker bile spewer except they bring a cloud of orange mist with them to protect smaller bugs. The only one's that may be male are the winged bugs pouncer,hunter,Stalker and shrieker. when you think about it most colonies only create males or (drones) to breed and then they are later kicked out of the nest when no longer nedded to survive on their own. These drones usually have and keep their wings unlike ther none queen female counterparts. The 2 enemies with separate nests both have wings and tend to fight in a hit and run style instead of the swarm style of most of the other bugs. And I don't think any of the bugs we currently have lay eggs st most would probably be the 2 spewers but the feel they are more like how honeypot ants operate where they store lots of food in their bodies for the rest of the colony to eat via Trophylaxis (idk if i spelled it right). And while I believe may of the smaller bugs are just other bugs at different stanges of their life cycle the massive differences in many of the bugs may be due to the diet they where subjected to when in their incubation. This is how most colony bugs operate and why especially ants of the same colony have a huge diverse set of body types made for different jobs. In conclusion its most likely a mix of a special diet and the lifecycle of the bugs to causes thair massive differences.

    • @J.Severin
      @J.Severin Місяць тому

      but it make sense to have the warriors be the mals, because they are expandeble. you dont need that much of them to procreate.

    • @khaliqdavidson2867
      @khaliqdavidson2867 Місяць тому +1

      @@J.Severin This is true you don't need a lot of males but as stated earlier I'm thinking of most colony insects Ant majors and minors and everything in-between are all female so the fighting bug can be akin to the warriors (soldier), brood commander (veteran/major soldier), hive guard (inspired from the door ant), scavengers (worker), Spewers (Honeypot ant) chargers and Bile titans would be super majors for their orange and green counterparts. For hives everyone is expendable except the queen and most ant, termite, and bee colonies are 99% female and all of them except 1-5 depending on the size of the colony aren't queens so the female ants are even more expendable than the males. The males are grown to breed ( they usually don't assist with labor) then they are discarded from the colony the females do most of the dangerous jobs of protecting the hive

  • @GrimReaper9980
    @GrimReaper9980 Місяць тому

    Now question, what about the orange “nursing spewers” is that they’re called. It’s light armor where the green “bile spitter” is medium armor

  • @Dino-Mite718
    @Dino-Mite718 Місяць тому

    I had already figured that they were grown versions of one another.

  • @MEXICANSHARK8146
    @MEXICANSHARK8146 Місяць тому +6

    I dont think that the separation is male and female , because if you see well the terminids seems to have 3 branches, warriors, spewers, and hunters and for each one there is a scavenger version, we have the scavenger that metamorphises into the the warrior, hiveguard, chargers and brood comanders, the we have the spitters, that metamorphises into the bile spewers, and bile titans , and the leapers (the mini hunters) that metamorphises into the hunters , stalkers and shriekers, it doesnt seems like sex dimorphism, is more like mutations for a specific role in the hive , like some kind of age stages , but it just my idea , they all squish the same for me

  • @alpharius5178
    @alpharius5178 Місяць тому +2

    Liberty has left this traitor’s hearts.

  • @MsDragonkingz
    @MsDragonkingz Місяць тому

    Actually I think it’s more like eusocial insects, pheromones rely complex or direct instructions that the bugs obey or react to. Not so much a shared mind and more of a preprogrammed response with little hesitation behind it

  • @crimson182
    @crimson182 Місяць тому

    That "charger" photo is actually a behemoth. It is the upgraded version of the charger. Note the big head crest.

  • @TheMortemGaming
    @TheMortemGaming Місяць тому

    Damn I was hoping you would bring the bugs in Helldivers 1

  • @jonanderyanes5241
    @jonanderyanes5241 Місяць тому

    Not to be "that guy" but on the hunter part you forgot the smaller ones called "Pouncers" which are the scavenger equivalent, they die in one shot basically but they do jump a lot farther

  • @themainman2827
    @themainman2827 Місяць тому

    All a good citizen need to know about the bugs is they bleed, thus, they can die.

  • @galenjones9529
    @galenjones9529 Місяць тому

    You're right. There is a bigger bug. It's called a hivelord, and it digs tunnels throughout a planet for the hive. They don't surface very often but can be forced to surface using tech.

  • @williammaclean6173
    @williammaclean6173 Місяць тому

    I honestly dont understand how this can be treasonous in any way. In fact, by knowing the biology and anatomy of the bugs, i would think it could only help us by being better informed of how the bugs "think" and operate as a species, then allow us to better combat them on the battlefield.

  • @jesush.christ8261
    @jesush.christ8261 Місяць тому

    Im pretty sure from what we know bile titans are actually considered "small" on their own planets

  • @IgorG89
    @IgorG89 Місяць тому

    Check Helldivers 1: there is a bigger bug and we can even find skeletons of it in Helldivers 2.
    Stalkers don't fit to the theory though, having separated nests from hunters 😢

  • @joeyu498
    @joeyu498 Місяць тому

    I always thought the termininds are going through life cylces, but i thought the tiny "male" bugs were the baby versions of the chargers cuz they look similar

  • @NaturalExplorer2007
    @NaturalExplorer2007 Місяць тому

    I think that the bugs are more like the ants on Earth: some ants are workers, soldiers, queens based on what they eat or how much they eat. So the different variations are conditioned by the quantity of the food and the type of food. The different characteristics are justified because ant soldiers and queens have functional wings while the worker ones have "dormant" wings which explains why different characteristics appear during the types of bugs.

  • @JJsmummyx
    @JJsmummyx Місяць тому

    Maybe the bugs are structured like an ant colony and as they grow up they split into different specialties

  • @TheDivisionAgent
    @TheDivisionAgent Місяць тому

    Ngl the voice transitions are pretty funny

  • @purpleblah2
    @purpleblah2 Місяць тому

    Also I think all the terminids we see are female; colony-based insects like bees and ants are all females, males only exist briefly to mate with the queen and then die.
    The rest of the colony is infertile female workers/soldiers. Presumably the terminid queen lays a bunch of egg clusters which specialize into different roles much like ants who hatch workers and soldiers and more specialized roles like ants with big swollen butts that act as living food storage (like spewers) or that one ant with a huge head who acts as the door to a nest (like hive guard/chargers)