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  • Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
  • hey Gang! We're back on our Sunken Chapel house project today and we're excited to be back. A lot of you guys have been asking for updates on this project so here ya go, one big update! We have our work cut out for us on this project, that is.. if we're even able to work on it. We now have to make the decision whether or not this house is savable, or if needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up! Let us know in the comments what you would do and if you wanted to tackle the repair, how you'd go about it! Thanks for watching gang, and we'll see ya in the next one!
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  • @mikemarino7806
    @mikemarino7806 3 роки тому +266

    Man, normally when I see a job like this, I start getting doom and gloom. The positive attitude you guys have is awesome! You two are very inspiring...I'm very excited to see this project continue!

    • @Noold
      @Noold 2 роки тому +14

      They have a positive attitude because they're making $$$. Poor homeowner is probably not having a great day.

    • @garycasper2929
      @garycasper2929 2 роки тому +3

      @@Noold money money money money…………. 🤑

    • @mr.anderson9938
      @mr.anderson9938 2 роки тому

      Score! Gonna buy a new truck off this job 💸💸💸

    • @Jalbesbe
      @Jalbesbe 2 роки тому +1

      @@mr.anderson9938 Sadly the job got cut very short as there was way too much damage to try to save the house. Was cheaper to tear it down and build a new one.

    • @MarshWaha
      @MarshWaha 2 роки тому +2

      @@Jalbesbe where did you get that information?

  • @toddhenning8304
    @toddhenning8304 3 роки тому +263

    Appears to me that the bathroom will need to be addressed eventually. My call would be to fix it now while house is undergoing serious repair.

    • @ExcelInstructor
      @ExcelInstructor 3 роки тому +20

      Agreed. bathroom repair now would be cheaper then doing it in a year or 2.

    • @907441
      @907441 3 роки тому +5

      Agree 100%

    • @debbiemansperger3280
      @debbiemansperger3280 3 роки тому +14

      I think they were thinking about tearing down the whole thing and starting over at one point. Now that it's going to be even more expensive to fix, they might want to go with that option.

    • @Kni0002
      @Kni0002 3 роки тому +1

      Just try add more support under the bathroom maybe

    • @tqu5759
      @tqu5759 3 роки тому +7

      @@ExcelInstructor They still might not be able to afford to do all of the work at once

  • @wyseguy77
    @wyseguy77 3 роки тому +134

    Do the bathroom. Buy once cry once. Don't give the situation a chance to worsen.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 роки тому +11

      The property value as described @ 14:12 "super desirable neighborhood" indicates 'doing it right'.
      I have concerns about 'jacking it up' as per wood rot, but it will be a good test to see what's solid, and what's squalid.

    • @Salador1777
      @Salador1777 2 місяці тому +1

      Man so many human problems can trace roots to the fact that we can not really afford to do it all even if we know we should or could or want to. Sometimes the best u can do is think ahead for the next guys, hide some drawings and notes in walls, and don't build them into a corner for sake of ease. That's why we should be in awe for all we have, that some generations really did try to build for future too. ( Great works)

    • @Salador1777
      @Salador1777 2 місяці тому

      ​@@stephensaines7100if the roof is still up and solidly square you'll always be able to jack it up somehow.

  • @DaddyBeanDaddyBean
    @DaddyBeanDaddyBean 3 роки тому +76

    I've been waiting for this one too. If the house has another bathroom and can live without that one, then if repairing it properly just can't happen right now, I would demo it and repair the framing & floor (just up to subfloor, not fully finished floor), rough in the plumbing so it's ready to go, and then close the door on it. Make it safe and clean for now, and make it a bathroom again later.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 роки тому +7

      Move forward with that in mind, whether a replacement goes in now (much easier and done right) or later. The property value indicates doing it completely now. The budget is the owner(s) decision. They'd be wise to do it all now.

    • @paulstock9978
      @paulstock9978 2 роки тому

      Excellent idea.

    • @Jalbesbe
      @Jalbesbe 2 роки тому +1

      Job got cut, house was torn down as it was cheaper than trying to save the old one.

  • @WoodartAve
    @WoodartAve 2 роки тому +24

    Angle the circ-saw blade to match the cut nail angle and cut in the center of the flooring next time, you'll hit way fewer nails.

  • @Robynhoodlum
    @Robynhoodlum 2 роки тому +9

    2:30 when he said “we gotta demo this floor” I nearly cried. That hardwood is so beautiful, demoing it should be a crime!

    • @britneyystaples91
      @britneyystaples91 2 роки тому +1

      Thats what im saying lol, find a crawl space 😂

    • @johnhurtme
      @johnhurtme Місяць тому

      Robyn I feel the pain. They could have taken it apart and reused it. My house is built mostly from my families original house constructed here in 1887, all of my hardwood was taken apart and reused from the first house, 137year old white oak. But you know how women and hardwood floors are alike? If you lay em right the first time, you can walk all over them for a century without a squeak. 😂😅😂

  • @Remmub12
    @Remmub12 2 роки тому +59

    I came back from a deployment and found my house collapsing like this. Had to replace 160 joists while lumber was sky high. 2000 plus sq/ft on first floor. Been 7 months and house is still not back to normal. Good luck on this project

    • @CT-um7zq
      @CT-um7zq 2 роки тому +9

      160 joists?🤯

    • @Kristerkry
      @Kristerkry 2 роки тому +5

      Sometimes demoing a whole house and rebuilding it proper might be a better solution.

    • @Anubis30224
      @Anubis30224 2 роки тому +2

      Holy cow! I hope it's going okay? My dad started adding a second floor right when lumber prices soared. He's ticked off too

    • @mikebottorff593
      @mikebottorff593 Рік тому

      Big money

    • @sogekingfromsniperisland7033
      @sogekingfromsniperisland7033 6 місяців тому

      How much you spent?

  • @therealdojj
    @therealdojj 3 роки тому +14

    This looks like that house from a few months ago
    Thought you'd forgotten about it so glad to see an update 👍👍👍

  • @Croc7opus
    @Croc7opus 3 роки тому +7

    Wow, this reminds me of job I did where a 40 year old, two story addition on a house had tons of structural framing water damage from the backyard window above the crawlspace, all the way to the top of the skylight above the master bedroom. I commend you guys for looking at this challenge with a great attitude. Very professional, the owners are in good hands. 💥👍⚡⚡

  • @randisius
    @randisius 3 роки тому +5

    The house I currently own is pretty much the same, though in better condition. The last seven years have seen me repairing and replacing most of the house. It was built in the 30's and I've seen all kinds of jerry rigging and multiple generations of techniques. All I can say is, I love the enthusiasm and I hope it all comes together.

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 3 роки тому +23

    Man that subfloor and beam situation was downright rotten. They called the right team for the job though! Jordan teasing you with the edits at times is hilarious. Hope the storm doesn’t ruin anything for you fellas. Glad we missed it in H town. Stay blessed and on task boys.

  • @Dizzyfingers2
    @Dizzyfingers2 2 роки тому +9

    I love this guy! Such a great, positive outlook on everything - he obviously loves what he does! Even in 100' weather!

  • @chasegodwin8257
    @chasegodwin8257 3 роки тому +4

    Best “RealityTV” to watch, but it’s legit and run by a two-man crew. Very positive! When you two see a trial, you see a door of opportunity-not a spiraling dead-end of complaints and stagnation. Thank you for your videos. Most enjoyable!!

    • @robinheider414
      @robinheider414 2 роки тому

      Canadian framing is platform not balloon. So each floor can be separated and to an extent addressed separately. An insurance job we were called into do we had to replace part of one exterior bearing and one 25 foot interior bearing wall of kitchen after a nasty fire. Two of us created interior micro lam collar beams and literally raised the load of the house (2.5 storeys) and were able to rebuild the 2 x6 frame walls and put the load back down. We had a solid poured basement and structurally sound foundation piers to build our jacks on and thus our two sets of collar beams. I wouldnt want to touch such a set up you had to deal with here. Very curious to see what you'll do in such a piecemeal situation.

  • @leonardjohnson7864
    @leonardjohnson7864 3 роки тому +10

    I really want to see how you will jack the house up in that confined space! Can't wait! Love the editing!

  • @shanemoore8025
    @shanemoore8025 3 роки тому +13

    So glad to see you are filming this project. Can’t wait to see how this all turns out.

  • @ethelbernal8938
    @ethelbernal8938 3 роки тому +4

    Wow what a mess! Just did a termite ridden floor in my bathroom but thank God the support beams were fine. Almost cried when you had to remove that beautiful hardwood floor though.

  • @jmac213stuff
    @jmac213stuff 3 роки тому +14

    About 3 years ago, I have the same problem with a house, Client was already looking to demo and park a trailer on his property. Some girders where touching the floor, all of the house was 12" or less to grade. not venting and plumbing leaks where also the main culprit. Gutted entire subfloor, poured footings where needed, and backfield entire house with gravel and sand, poured Concrete slab. 3 bedrooms, 2 baths, Kitchen and Living room all got remodeled. Insurance paid most of it $60k), client paid $10k. Considering we included upgrades, it was a steal. 1 bath got a new ADA shower, new kitchen cabinets and countertops and every room got Room AC unit. Never though I would see that again.

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I've been thinking slab + insulation the whole time too!

    • @sergeig685
      @sergeig685 3 роки тому +2

      3bed 2 bath remodel WITH slab WITH new footings and subfloor for 60k??? Was it a toy house? Jesus, I want your prices

    • @jmac213stuff
      @jmac213stuff 3 роки тому +1

      @@sergeig685 I guess it helps when your capable of accomplishing this things, and with a bit some help on the labor side, it keeps costs down. I did have several contractors BS their way to it and other ran, and still others didn't know what to do. The greatest satisfaction I got was doing what many others weren't up to par. I can't post pictures here, I would, but for sure adds a scratch on my tool belt.

  • @BWIL2515
    @BWIL2515 3 роки тому +6

    These old houses it seems to never stop one thing leads to another and another and another good luck hope it all goes well ALOT OF WORK

  • @kevinintheusa8984
    @kevinintheusa8984 3 роки тому +1

    My son and I were just working on our project Saturday. We had to rip out the old kitchen and dining room and fix the floors and new drywall. We just put in a new ceiling in that area and had to level the ceiling after removing the old blown in insulation and ceiling. Man, it turned out to be quite a job. We just put up new lights in that area and now are working on the master bath which needs the same, floor, drywall, and ceiling. It will be nice once completed but boy, it is a job. Not as big as yours but big for us.

  • @GD-xj3jd
    @GD-xj3jd Рік тому +1

    Gotta tell ya, I'm amazed at how positive you guy's are! Like Mike Marino pointed out down below, flat amazed but inspired. I've been working on an old house and to tell you the truth, I need some more of your go fore it enthusiasm!! Thank and and really glad I ran across you guys.

  • @hj8607
    @hj8607 3 роки тому +18

    Put a drain in the middle (near that hole ) and tile the floor . BIG shower room . 😁

    • @robinheider414
      @robinheider414 2 роки тому

      If they were southern Baptists a large font could fit into the whole chapel theme.

  • @stopsign997
    @stopsign997 2 роки тому +3

    Seeing houses like this makes me
    So thankful to have a basement. That plumbing 😱

  • @adrianagomez-bravo337
    @adrianagomez-bravo337 2 роки тому

    White mold from leaks/probably hot water/and without any venting, created a sauna-like condition under there. I had this happen in my rental when tenants failed to tell me there was a leak. Luckily, it was remedied before it did any extensive damage. The mold (small white spots) was just starting to form on the beams. When this happened, I realized all the vents (10) had been covered over when the house was stuccod before I purchased it (I lived there for 25 years 🤦‍♀🤷‍♀). It was a super easy fix. I literally felt the house take in deep breath when this was done. GREAT VIDEO!!

  • @claycharmsFOREVER
    @claycharmsFOREVER 2 роки тому +2

    This is the real world of repairing and/or renovating older properties. I never started one of these until the owner committed to see it through, fully cognizant that it could be straightforward or it could turn into a nightmare.

    • @Fnberg744
      @Fnberg744 Рік тому

      Only a nightmare the first few times. Lol. Then you get use to the destruction that must take place to git er dun.

  • @billymasoner3735
    @billymasoner3735 3 роки тому +6

    Sad that they’re losing all that beautiful antique hardwood floor, but I’m glad you can save the home. I think it would be best to do that bathroom while you’re at it.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but I imagine the labor cost would have swamped those poor monks.

  • @bholowick
    @bholowick 3 роки тому +82

    Completely gut the entire interior, and rebuild everything. What else can you do? Or just bulldoze and start over. It can't get much worse than this, I feel bad for the owners...

    • @tomjeffries58
      @tomjeffries58 3 роки тому +4

      Living in the South. I agree.

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 роки тому +17

      If the partitions and walls are solid, which indications show (the rot is localized, not pervasive), and contained subfloor, why do more than what the owner(s) decide? Once you start tearing down unaffected walls, where do you stop?

    • @bholowick
      @bholowick 3 роки тому +2

      @@stephensaines7100 I am assuming that's what they plan to do. It will be very interesting to watch! But it does seem like the rot is worse than they thought (i.e. the bathroom issue). "Eh, we just gotta pull out the entire subfloor and all the joists, no biggie" :)

    • @hr1551
      @hr1551 3 роки тому +3

      that probably too costly. I am thinking just somehow support the roof, tear down all the original rotten area and rebuild.

    • @ThaGreatestAlexander
      @ThaGreatestAlexander 3 роки тому

      New supports on piers cut out the rotten, put vapor barrier on the dirt instead of between flooring, save all exterior and interior framing/drywall etc

  • @jaraxel888
    @jaraxel888 3 роки тому +1

    Great Vid! I honestly got a renewed respect for plywood. That floor was held up just by plywood!

  • @durkus
    @durkus 3 роки тому +5

    Love the ties still on the wall. Was waiting for the pole saw.

    • @rxcalvosa
      @rxcalvosa 3 роки тому

      Ties and belts looked moldy

  • @stevebabiak6997
    @stevebabiak6997 3 роки тому +4

    That beautiful tongue and groove hardwood also helped to keep that floor floating above the air space where the joists were decomposed to no structural integrity. Shame that it had to be demo’ed to fix the structure.
    Maybe you could have used a grinder to cut through that flooring; they often get used to cut through metal, of course with the proper blade attached.

  • @thomasabreu90
    @thomasabreu90 3 роки тому +3

    Typically I’m the first one in to see if it can be fixed( I’m a flooring contractor ) I do not do structural is my normal response after seeing. Then following question from them is what do yo think it will cost to get fixed? EXPENSIVE!!!! Sounds like you have a good game plan good luck guys can’t wait to see

    • @iamamish
      @iamamish 3 роки тому +1

      I was wondering - my guess is that this is going to be between $80k and $120k by the time it is done

  • @yodaiam1000
    @yodaiam1000 9 місяців тому +1

    I think I would recommend to the client to lift the house and build a properly conditioned crawl space with a modern concrete foundation. Lift it up to work on the underside and set down on concrete with a good taller crawl space that you can actually crawl in and a skim coat so you don't get dirty.

    • @johnhurtme
      @johnhurtme Місяць тому

      That's untenable, such an undertaking would be a five figure upgrade, this is obviously starter home and the budget isn't there to fix the bathroom , it's certainly not there for recreating the foundation of the structure with poured concrete. You gonna sell them the heated floors while you are at it? That's the difference in a builder, and a contractor. One's trying to solve a problem, while the other is trying to sell a product. Thank God Tennessee doesn't require contractors for remodels that are 4 digits. When you hit 10k on a project that's when leaches come for blood. Now ask how many 10k jobs I've done in 10 years?

  • @michaelegan9568
    @michaelegan9568 2 роки тому +1

    you gave us a big teaser about the engineering of the sunken Chapel and I'm still waiting to see the exciting method used to jack a house up off the piers and let it back down

  • @50sKid
    @50sKid 3 роки тому +144

    I’ve been waiting to see what happens with this one!

    • @empressche333
      @empressche333 3 роки тому +2

      Same! So glad to see it!

    • @bigbaby3435
      @bigbaby3435 3 роки тому

      @@empressche333 ikoo

    • @y00h0011
      @y00h0011 3 роки тому +2

      Me too.

    • @flat_baby1644
      @flat_baby1644 3 роки тому +10

      me too - this is basically what i’m trying to fix in my house and can’t find many videos w some of these specific issues

    • @thefeels619
      @thefeels619 2 роки тому

      @@bigbaby3435 0

  • @silverfeathered1
    @silverfeathered1 3 роки тому +17

    I'm still in favor of lifting the house. Even if it's just enough for a little more crawl space. Being able to make repairs in the future, which seems inevitable, will save in the long run.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      Lifting the house is temporary. It takes the weight off the foundation so you can do foundation repairs, but then you have to put the house down again. I'm not entirely sure how they're going to lift the house to repair the wood framing (apart from it giving them more room to move around) since what they're repairing is also what the jacks will be using to hold everything up.

    • @funny36ful
      @funny36ful 2 роки тому

      @@c182SkylaneRG are you saying that you can’t add to the piers to maintain a new height?

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      @@funny36ful I suppose, for the house in the video, you technically could. The number of jacks you would need to properly support the house up off its current foundation, however, is going to make it extremely difficult to move around underneath the house.
      Otherwise, my experience is with full basement foundations, which are much harder to change once poured. For a pier foundation such as the one in the video, however, I don't suppose it would be as much trouble to make the piers a bit taller. The trouble you ARE going to run into, however, is how much taller you want to make them. If you go up more than one or two courses of bricks, you're going to need to widen the piers, otherwise any side-loading (wind, improper alignment, etc) is liable to cause them to tip over or snap off underneath the house). Same concept as using 6x6 posts for a 12 ft high deck, vs just 4x4 posts for a 4 foot high one.

    • @c182SkylaneRG
      @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому

      @@funny36ful Take a straw. Cut it so you have a segment that is 1 inch long. Set it upright on the table, and push down on it with your finger until it bends. Now take the rest of the straw, and do the same thing. Note how much force is required to cause each segment to bend.
      The same principle is true of the piers under the house. A little extension is probably fine, but too much extension can make them more likely to bend or break sideways, causing the house to collapse.
      As I mentioned: a couple courses of bricks is probably fine. Any more than that, and you need to widen the piers so they can withstand the added torque.
      Torque is force times length. If you apply the same force to a longer length, you have more torque. The base of those piers can only withstand so much torque before they break.

  • @rico1319
    @rico1319 3 роки тому +2

    It really takes a special person to dig deep enough to find the answers on a job like this! You and your dad make this kind of work so enjoyable to watch! Please keep up the good work!! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱

  • @edmarker6804
    @edmarker6804 3 роки тому +1

    I just did this in Texas. The entire foundation. All new piers, beams, joists, and subfloor. I had to use 2 pallets of blocks, 10 12 ton bottle jacks, and an assortment of temporary beams to lift everything. I raised the lowest point of the house 17 inches to make it level. I suspect this will involve some creative ways to lift and support the house. Lots of work haha!

    • @mickeymacon1281
      @mickeymacon1281 3 роки тому

      Did you make any vids or take photos to document your project ?

    • @edmarker6804
      @edmarker6804 3 роки тому

      @@mickeymacon1281 no vids but I do have some photos

    • @mickeymacon1281
      @mickeymacon1281 3 роки тому

      @@edmarker6804 I'd love to see them!

    • @kirstenmartin4396
      @kirstenmartin4396 3 роки тому +1

      I second @Mickey Macon; would love to see your photos of the job you did in Texas.

  • @adamschwartzberg5238
    @adamschwartzberg5238 3 роки тому +17

    Been waiting for this one!

  • @michelmartin672
    @michelmartin672 11 місяців тому +3

    You guys make some great content! And excellent job. I'm feeling like I can actually tackle my kitchen floor.

  • @waltkosch
    @waltkosch 3 роки тому +2

    Amazing no one had gotten hurt falling through a floor. Must be some skinny brothers in that chapel.

  • @HBSuccess
    @HBSuccess 2 роки тому

    StudPack we did a couple of these but did not try to repair joists. Instead we converted the floor system into a structural slab, eliminating the unvented crawlspace. 6-10” washed stone over a carefully sealed vapor barrier, 4” cap w grade beams under the walls. Had to redo a lot of plumbing and of course all of the finished flooring but in the end it was faster cheaper and easier than the alternative.

  • @murphy9591
    @murphy9591 3 роки тому +9

    The time to fix it is when you find it.

  • @jackgililand
    @jackgililand 3 роки тому +7

    Man I wish I had an opportunity to work with my dad... you two truly have a great relationship and work so great together.

  • @calivalley9056
    @calivalley9056 3 роки тому +2

    Can you cut a hole outside at the crawl space and feed a full span new joist from the outside?

  • @paulhughes3961
    @paulhughes3961 2 роки тому +1

    My Wife and I recently bought a house that had been repaired but from the master bedroom to the middle bedroom the floor slops to the exterior wall. We have plans to have a local company that specializes in foundation issues. You guys do great work and I'm really looking forward to seeing how they are going to jack up that house.

  • @zacharyrupley3264
    @zacharyrupley3264 3 роки тому +4

    Paul, could a person get under the house, jack the house
    up and replace the rotten beams. That way you could keep the floors that are in good shape.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 роки тому

      Can't attach the subfloor to the new beams.....

  • @JFirn86Q
    @JFirn86Q 3 роки тому +4

    I hope we see the engineer's solution that you mentioned, even if it isn't used. Great video and hard work!

  • @ericwotton2046
    @ericwotton2046 3 роки тому +2

    Sure glad I have a full basement!! This can't be inexpensive to fix.

  • @sangkang6294
    @sangkang6294 3 роки тому

    My property was built back in the 60's with a concrete slab foundation. No issues with the floor caving in but took a hell of a time breaking down the concrete for adding a bathroom plumbing. I knew concrete becomes harder with age but the Makita jack hammer was giving its business.

  • @Lawomenshoops
    @Lawomenshoops 2 роки тому +26

    Painful to see such a beautiful hardwood floor being torn up like that!! I know you had to, but man!!

    • @henryblicharz5556
      @henryblicharz5556 7 місяців тому

      Not really but he didn’t care , not his house !

    • @Lawomenshoops
      @Lawomenshoops 7 місяців тому

      @@henryblicharz5556 idiot

  • @matteberry58
    @matteberry58 3 роки тому +8

    Plastic sheeting has killed more framing than most people would believe. This house must have had good termite barriers or the moisture would've attracted termite to some good eating

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 3 роки тому +3

      The plastic vapor barrier would have had to have been installed below ALL of the wood in order to have not been trapping moisture in the wrong place. Crawl spaces should be treated like that, and spray foam is often used to insulate the walls of the crawl space if it is not ventilated.

    • @stich1960
      @stich1960 3 роки тому +6

      Vapor barriers are not as much the issue has a nail in the coffin imo, up north they are important. But your exterior wall needs to stay sealed or in this case you cant ignore water leaks and block all the crawlspace venting. And honestly the whole treating crawlspace as both interior and exterior rather than one or the other is probably the biggest failing in modern us construction.

    • @stevebabiak6997
      @stevebabiak6997 3 роки тому +5

      @@stich1960 - yes, a crawl space is either interior or exterior, and the structure should be built to make it clear which is the intent.

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 роки тому +1

      @@stevebabiak6997 Yes!!!! The FLOOR of the crawlspace should have the barrier!

    • @toomanymarys7355
      @toomanymarys7355 3 роки тому

      @@stich1960 Definitely. My comment was in light of their decision to have no ventilation.

  • @rickigunter1960
    @rickigunter1960 2 роки тому

    I'm a licensed plumber and I've been under several houses and seen a lot of things that you exposed by cutting the floor open that house appears to be very nicely remodeled the main thing it has going for it that the outside perimeter wall beams are in good shape but the load bearing walls must have proper support and I'm not saying anything that you don't already know ..so I agree I hope it's in the house owners budget to do everything that you see that needs to be done

  • @jamesshaw3850
    @jamesshaw3850 5 місяців тому

    I am so glad your showing this video. It is teaching me how to work on my first home. Thank you

  • @dzaino1986
    @dzaino1986 3 роки тому +3

    Time for a teardown..How much can you band-aid a home before it becomes less cost-effective. I admire your determination though guys. I've done plenty of renovation in my own home, however this is extreme. Best of luck 👍Hydrate!

  • @hijinks21
    @hijinks21 3 роки тому +21

    I'm shocked that house is even standing up

  • @southerncomfort971
    @southerncomfort971 3 роки тому +1

    Fortunately my situation was not nearly as bad as what you are running it to. My 1000 sq ft summer home had water and mold damage to the joists but my sill plates and outside wall rim joists were fine. Only a few joists had failed. But since I had access to the entire floor system from underneath with my 30 inch crawlspace I decide to remove and replace all the joist and the main support center beams, My Son and I started the project and My Wife and I finished it. We had to jack up the entire house section by section just high enough to remove and then to slide new joists in place. We decide to use pressure treated for the main beams 4 wide and ran 32 feet on 8 foot floor pillars. The one thing that saved our building was a number of years back we had ground water coming up from the unprotected crawlspace floor and the damp air (with vents) was too much for the joists. Back then we were not prepared or ready to lift the house to replace all that was wrong then. So We found a compant that uses Cleanspace Technology to seal the dirt away from the house and sump pump any new water that was now being diverted by French drain on the inside walls to the sump drain. The cleanspace system is what kept the rest of th wood from rotting and kept the damage limited what had already occured. We are in central Ontario Canada and the humidity thru the summer is just awful and that mixed with the ground water was our biggest culprit. Its been 20 years since the cleanspace went in and 5 years since we fixed the floor. We have a few squeaks and there is a small highspot. but doing what we did lifting and replacing was the smartest thing we could hve done and Thank goodness we did it when wood wasnt priced as GOLD or we may have had go back to a dirt floor. AS for you Bathroom. Maybe you can lift around and in that same way lift the bathroom and put more support under it with steel if needed or jack posts and joists, Looking forward to seeing how this goes, great video guys.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 роки тому

      Always appreciated thx SC 👍👊

  • @Peter-td3yk
    @Peter-td3yk 2 роки тому

    Eyons ago I was in the trades a hugh home in flemimgton nj had a small bathroom added to the side of the home.. In the Basement were all the planes that made all the trim in the home in a big trunk.. Amazing to see.. Mind boggling that home was super trimmed out..back to bathroom.. Bob was tasked to redo it..Well he was a master tradesmen like no other.. He was shocked at what or how was this room attached to the home? There was zero supports.. No cantilevered floor joists, nope.. Just stuck to the side of the home... The owners were shocked at the bill to remediate the room.. Back then zero codes or rules.. But the owner stated its still there.. Bob was like how???? Sometimes old doesnt mean good or safe.. But the wooden planes like over 100 still amazes me..

  • @FixthisCD
    @FixthisCD 3 роки тому +5

    think that wood was rotted before the subfloor was added, that is why they added the plastic.

  • @bigscout1584
    @bigscout1584 3 роки тому +22

    Ain't worth doing if it ain't done right.

  • @tylerkurfees4762
    @tylerkurfees4762 2 роки тому +2

    I went through a similar project on my sister in laws parents house. All the floor joists wer rotten in the living room and her old bedroom. Only reason they never fell through the floor is because the old tongue and groove hard wood floor was holding together so well. blew my mind lol

  • @canlite
    @canlite 2 роки тому

    I work with my dad we do a bit of everything. Over the summer we had a job just like this. No ventilation under floor in craw space. Insulation was dripping wet and floor joists were very rotten. And the main beam four 2x12 thick treated lumber were completely rotten. One good party in that room would have done it in. Lol. Mind you this just had a oak floor put in 2 years prior. I felt so bad ripping it up.

  • @tazmun
    @tazmun 3 роки тому +6

    Wow what a mess! This is going to be really interesting to see how it comes out so I’m gonna make sure and follow this. The one question I had my mind was are the engineers, architects, insurance adjusters, and possibly building inspectors going to need to see underneath the house now that you’ve got this much demoed? I know one doesn’t commonly invite building inspectors to get their opinion or orders, but in this case I’d be really worried about things biting my ass down the road so crossing “T’s”and dotting “I’s” you know.

  • @abattleborn
    @abattleborn 2 роки тому +4

    damn bro, just stumbled across this channel, def subscribed, it's always fun seeing people passionate about their jobs doing their best.

  • @gblair999
    @gblair999 2 роки тому

    YOOOOOOO! He said his name!!!! PAUL!!! Nice to finally meet you Paul!!! Love your guys videos!

  • @-JonnyBoy-
    @-JonnyBoy- 4 місяці тому +1

    Replacing old dimensional lumber sucks because it was actually the size it said it was unlike now. To replace a ACTUAL 2X10 you have to use a 2X 12 and cut the height down.

  • @medtechish
    @medtechish 2 роки тому +3

    Looking forward to a followup with this place. My house 1940's is suffering some same issues. Would like to see the fixes. Good video.

  • @yearight7956
    @yearight7956 3 роки тому +5

    You guys are great builders, truly jack of all trades when it comes to building/carpentry. With all the specific companies/unions (demo/framing/finish/tile) it is extremely rare to see now a days and it’s almost unheard of to see guys who actually are good at all aspects of building. Nice to see the youngster learning the skills from someone who knows his stuff! He’s going to be making crazy money eventually, no one wants to work the trades anymore and those that do are only helpers or want to be in a union where they can slack.
    .The only two things I would’ve done differently would be more for my own well being and future issues.
    1 take more precaution when you find mold. Respirator on at all times in the work area. Use zip walls/plastic in doorways blocking rest of the house. After removing old lumber spray a chemical (QD64 is best) on/around the area where the mold was or even on the new lumber where it seemed to grow the last time… this kills any small particles left and prevents future growth. If it is a really likely areas they make a white paint for inside walls and floors that goes on studs/joists to guarantee no mold
    2 I would cut the small hole first on that floor, get a look down at the joists. If that big section you cut became to heavy for those rotted joists & falls through to the ground its an absolute nightmare. The chances of that are low but when the floor is 4-5 inches low only 7 feet off the wall the joists are clearly failing. That subfloor being cut could’ve been the final blow and the whole section could fall down to the ground.
    Just some tips I thought I’d share. But you guys do great work and I’m absolutely a supporter!

  • @Thomas63r2
    @Thomas63r2 3 роки тому +2

    I just subscribed after realizing how many of your videos I have watched. I'm sure that this house will be scrapped and a new build in its place. I'm hoping some miracle occurs and you rebuild this house - I really want to see how you complete the rebuild.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 роки тому +1

      Welcome Thomas! Appreciate the continued support 👊🏼

  • @pukeschannel6882
    @pukeschannel6882 2 роки тому

    Dude, you can buy a circ. saw blade with a negative (or at least not positive) angle on the carbides. It'll go right through nails and bolts.. fast. Years ago sears craftsman made one but it was expensive (this was in the 90s when carbide was getting cheaper but still a lot more than today). Usually a blade with a negative (or at least not positive by very much) angle on the carbides will be called a demolition blade) THe ones at the big box stores that are labeled for nails and wood will work, but they are pretty thin compared to a proper demolition blade. We just use the big box store ones now. Not even sure if the heavy ones are sold...things are getting so inexpensive..

  • @likearockcm
    @likearockcm 3 роки тому +3

    I'd say it's about the numbers as always but, if feasible, of course you do the bathroom. Teardown and rebuild wouldn't be an option for me. Maybe do the bathroom the next year if they have a budget on this job. As to how I would do it, exactly the way you are .Looks terribly daunting but not as hard to do as it appears.(I've done a few over the years mainly caused by ants in my area.

  • @scotts2181
    @scotts2181 3 роки тому +3

    Well floors like that aren’t normal around me either but even more abnormal to drill a hole and spray water everywhere 😂 was dying to know why the floor was so wet

  • @claudiagonzalez7529
    @claudiagonzalez7529 2 роки тому +2

    I don't remember ever seeing another video on this one . Would really have loved to see it done

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 роки тому +3

      Owners decided to tear it down Claudia ☹️

    • @dennisbranam3847
      @dennisbranam3847 2 роки тому +2

      @@StudPack you should do a follow up video on how they came to that decision, if the homeowner would allow it.

  • @richardlangley9481
    @richardlangley9481 2 роки тому

    I got two workers to dig a ditch in crawl to access areas needed to repair plumbing and floor supports. i am a builder and carpenter and realize how difficult some redos are Hope you cut brick out in 2 areas to allow cross vexillation in crawl. I enjoy your videos You always do things the right way

  • @c182SkylaneRG
    @c182SkylaneRG 2 роки тому +3

    I'm curious: what's the feasibility of a northern-style Concrete Foundation with a Basement down there in LA? Seems like it'd help with floor joists rotting, and you don't have to worry about frost caving it in, but you seem to have a pretty high water table. Concrete's waterproof, though (if done right), so I'm still having trouble seeing the downside, if done properly.

    • @normaalvarado2880
      @normaalvarado2880 2 роки тому

      The basement would be a cistern!

    • @kyakukid1
      @kyakukid1 2 роки тому

      A lot of issues with houses like this to include basements are due to not having any type of vapor barrier underneath the house. A good 12mil vapor barrier will solve this problem or prevent it from happening. A conditioned crawlspace takes that a step further.

  • @MrTooTechnical
    @MrTooTechnical 3 роки тому +4

    Woohoo. Use nothing but pressure treated joists for the repair please. And make sure you put lots of blocking.

  • @alsprettycreations8005
    @alsprettycreations8005 3 місяці тому

    I usually cut into a floor with what I call "a peek a boo cut" that's a 4 sq. ft (2 'x 2') Section of floor cut out, enough for me to peek into to see of any wires, pipes or any other possible obstructions /unexpected surprises. Before I completely commit myself to removing the large sections of the floor.

  • @mthabisidube7277
    @mthabisidube7277 3 роки тому +1

    New Project, new insights, more knowledge, the pack is growing bigger on YT yeah

  • @tumuskurns
    @tumuskurns 3 роки тому +7

    Demolish the house, get rid of the cast iron, start from scratch

  • @syproful
    @syproful 3 роки тому +6

    That’s why you pour a slab. Make your house the ship it’s supposed to be. Great work. Really like your spontaneous videos.

    • @normaalvarado2880
      @normaalvarado2880 2 роки тому

      The high water table makes slabs fail in Central Texas as it most likely would in Louisiana. Black land Prairie is very high in clay as are bayous. Drought causes clay shrinkage rapid rain fall loosens clay so we have rapid foundation stress.

    • @syproful
      @syproful 2 роки тому

      @@normaalvarado2880 In my area we also have clay ground. The quality to make brickwork. Engineers demand a “general foundation slab” this 30cm and reinforced. On the bottom the slab is wrapped in thick plastic before the poor. On the side it is protected by bitumen roofing (the black stuff you attach with fire). The idea is ofcourse that the structure “floats” while the clay does what it does. Expand, shrink etc. This is in europe.

  • @VKMilling
    @VKMilling 2 роки тому

    Spyder Co demo blades for the circ saw. Hands down the best I have used from a home center. I recently demo'd a kitchen and living room with 2 layers of 3/4 ply, 1 layer of 3/4 t&g pine and a layer of 3/4 red oak. Quite literally hundreds of nails and that blade is still in the saw cutting sheathing.

  • @primefusion83
    @primefusion83 3 роки тому +2

    What's up Stud Pack team, thank you for offering us your knowledge and experience in construction. I wish you success in all your future projects! Great work guys!!

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 роки тому +1

      Thx Alberto 👍

  • @randycarreiro8363
    @randycarreiro8363 3 роки тому +8

    Knock it all down build new. Go up another floors .
    All new .

    • @mr.g937
      @mr.g937 3 роки тому +1

      If it's all rotten, I don't see how you can fix everything...you'd have to demo the whole house

    • @randycarreiro8363
      @randycarreiro8363 3 роки тому

      With that said I have no doubt you can do it

  • @donniellison7647
    @donniellison7647 2 роки тому +3

    Where is the second part? What happened?

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 роки тому +3

      No second part. Owners decided to tear it down

  • @rsproductions3820
    @rsproductions3820 3 роки тому +2

    ive been a carpenter for 6 years and honestly the home owner is lucky that they had hardwood floors otherwise id bet someone would have went through that the floor a long time ago

    • @stephensaines7100
      @stephensaines7100 3 роки тому +1

      It was the ply sub that had the strength, not the veneer.

    • @jaymoolah5031
      @jaymoolah5031 3 роки тому

      @@stephensaines7100 hardwood is not veneer, 1+" hardwood actually adds a lot of strength to floors and sometimes you can go with thinner subfloor if you tell the engineer / building department you are using a thick hardwood floor

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 роки тому

      Yes that what we found. The original pine shiplap subfloor was rotten and the oak strip flooring was fine. There was tar paper between the two layers

  • @leslieharold2708
    @leslieharold2708 Рік тому

    I’m dying over the sexy music playing as you water your face! 😂❤. Wish you lived near me so you can share your positivity as you help me repair/rebuild my home. You are the best!!

  • @ifiwooddesigns
    @ifiwooddesigns 3 роки тому +4

    Scary to see homes in the south floating on piles. Makes me glad living up north with basements and better insulation and vapor barriers.

    • @billclinton6040
      @billclinton6040 3 роки тому +5

      That is mostly older homes as modern construction is typically slab on grade. The cost of a basement in southern Louisiana doesn't make sense because heating losses through a slab in the South during the winter are simply not an issue compared to the cooling effect provided by that same slab in the sweltering summers. Plus, the ground doesn't freeze in the South during the winter, so no need to dig down below a frost line. Modern houses in the South are very well insulated because cooling costs are significant otherwise.

    • @chrisE815
      @chrisE815 3 роки тому

      @@billclinton6040 yeah it's cheaper until you gotta demo half the structure

    • @vince9486
      @vince9486 3 роки тому +3

      Plenty of basement wall issues, water intrusion, forever damp, and other problems with "up north with basements". In Indiana, we got many issues even with a new house built in the last 5 years. Water (or vapor) is wood's worst enemy and does not bode well for poorly constructed concrete basements either. Keeps my company busy.

    • @jaysonlima9271
      @jaysonlima9271 3 роки тому

      We got 6" of rain in a couple hours the other day and it submerged the bulkhead for the basement at a buddy of mines, whole basement is flooded 4' deep going to be bringing my debris pump there shortly, basements have draw backs too

    • @chiefinspector7280
      @chiefinspector7280 2 роки тому

      @@billclinton6040 i never felt any cool air from my slab..

  • @jerrodbrown3319
    @jerrodbrown3319 2 роки тому +3

    Whatever happened with this project? I’m curious to know the outcome of what was decided!

    • @dhillman7522
      @dhillman7522 2 роки тому

      Where's the house lift and repair video?

  • @slimebuck
    @slimebuck 3 роки тому +1

    words to live by "Some times you dont know how to do it, so you just have to start somewhere, and we are starting RIGHT HERE"

  • @brianallison1913
    @brianallison1913 2 роки тому

    Makes me think of that Tom Hanks movie the Money Pit. I still laugh thinking about when he threw the log in the fireplace and the whole chimney collapsed. Also when he got off work, arrived home, and looked at the house while commenting "Ahhh. Home sweet crap."

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 роки тому

      A classic. Thx Brian 👊

  • @mansfieldcarpentry805
    @mansfieldcarpentry805 3 роки тому +4

    what a nice tng floor to be ruined..

  • @malikto1
    @malikto1 3 роки тому +25

    A real shame you coudn't salavage that oak flooring.

    • @spiritwings4592
      @spiritwings4592 3 роки тому +4

      They could have. I saved mine & it's over a hundred years old.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 2 роки тому +3

      @@spiritwings4592 how, though? It was *very* well nailed down.

    • @paulmonk7820
      @paulmonk7820 Рік тому +1

      Know this is an old video, but was looking for the rebuild, and can't find it.

    • @tuesdayderelictsandfriends8135
      @tuesdayderelictsandfriends8135 Рік тому +2

      They could have, but it doesn’t save contractors money just the home owner. He could have saved it all

    • @boduke2299
      @boduke2299 Рік тому

      Where is part 2 on this video?

  • @RubenKelevra
    @RubenKelevra 3 роки тому

    Get a shovel, dig a shallow trench space below the row of pillars and replace the rotten stuff from the bottom after adding some temporary supports.
    Then cut the old stuff out piece by piece.
    Same for the single failed "beam" below the bedroom.
    The trench can be stabilized with wood temporarily and just fill them with gravel afterward.

  • @nrehberg
    @nrehberg 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for taking on such a challenging project that requires so much hard work. I look forward to seeing the repairs. I hope you are getting paid appropriately.

  • @y00h0011
    @y00h0011 3 роки тому

    Anything is possible. But, when you first showed us this one, I thought.. Wow! ..this is going to be a big project. Ground vapor barrier... framing... plumbing... flooring...finishing. Kudos to you guys because there will be some monster sweat into this one just from breathing! But, you da man.

  • @soupofpossibilities8537
    @soupofpossibilities8537 2 роки тому

    Use a rubber hammer to drive the pry bar into the crack. It's easier on both the ears and the bar. Those cut nails are actually concrete nails - and REALLY HARD. I'm guessing they use those because they'll go through the oak flooring without bending, but I think they're not at all the right nail to use. Nowadays we'd use a flooring air nailer, but back then...
    Anytime doing reno - it's open the walls - or floors - have that Edvard Munch "Scream" moment, then figure it out and put things back together again. And... behind wall #2...

  • @peteteaokimosh9798
    @peteteaokimosh9798 2 роки тому

    My grandson and I have removed at least a dozen are more floors in the same shape and few a lot worse! Here in the delta area of Arkansas water is a common problem for floors. A lot of people don’t even have the slightest clue as to the work and the amount of time it takes not to mention the money 💰.

  • @arsenicjones9125
    @arsenicjones9125 3 роки тому +1

    It’s been so long I’d forgotten about this project. I’m hyped for this one. That floor is just held together w the sub floor 😱😱

  • @IntuitiveOne76
    @IntuitiveOne76 2 роки тому

    I did a similar job on an old commercial building. subfloor on top of subfloor. burned through a Milwaukee recip saw and 15 blades. took a solid week to get that done. There is no easier way to do it.

  • @lyradm1
    @lyradm1 3 роки тому

    You probably know you will run into more issues the further you dig.into their issues. I have helped many general contractors with homes like these. They were all great in looking at the entire situation even what was beyond the original bid. Nine times out of ten the client decided to demolished the home after weighing all the options. We did not try to pressure the demolition option. But instead provide the owner peace of mind that this would end the nickle and dime of continuous repairs. I wish you guys the best in this project whatever is decided. Lve the quality of your work.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  3 роки тому

      Much appreciated Daryl 👍👊

  • @fviscarra2799
    @fviscarra2799 2 роки тому

    Just know you guys give me hope with starting up my own Handyman Business, I enjoy the challenge of the unknown, I too enjoy helping my fellow man and woman with any fix they need around their home. Again, thank You for being true to the trade.

  • @PigsOnBook
    @PigsOnBook 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome. Thanks. Where is the next video about raising it or engineering plans? I tried searching or sorting, but cannot seem to find it. I'm about to remove kitchen floor and attempt to lift part of floor. this has already helped, thanks.

    • @StudPack
      @StudPack  2 місяці тому +2

      It wasn’t worth saving and was torn down. This was our only video there sorry