Tuning by Nick Toronto, Ontario, Canada nick@tuningbynick.com Dynojet 224xLC Load Control Dyno Tuning 2006 Porsche Cayman S 987 Honda K Series Engine Swap
You are the man! I was 2 weeks into swapping a K24 into my Cayman S. I was told it wouldn't fit transverse so I ended up buying a Tr9080 transaxle out of a 2020 corvette to mate up to the K24 in its original orientation. This video has completely put a halt to those plans! now I'm going to go back to my original quaife sequential plan.
i wish you success. too many of these cars are being scrapped because the price of rebuilding the engines on those that desperately need it is outrageous. an inexpensive, reliable and powerful engine is just what's needed.
I’m definitely following this build! I was thinking about doing the same thing so I’m looking forward to any updates from this project. Keep up the great work on it sir.
wow this is quite amazing guy. Been watching the k997 since the mockup, this would be a game changer for the 987/981 as an alternative to the LS which is the only other commercialized swap. I wonder what the weight difference will be between one of these and an ls swapped cayman. There has to be a sizeable amount of weight, AND MONEY saved between the two.
Ive been thinking about this swap alot, but never considered mounting it this way with the honda transmission. Im still kinda skeptical the axles will line up decently, but it looks pretty good so far, definitely a really cool option. I would still try to see if it could be done with the porsche transmission, that would make it abit simpler to integrate with the factory electronics. It would definitely require a custom engine cover since the LS swap already does, and the k series sits much taller than the LS.
Fantastic Nick, really looking forward to seeing this evolve. It should handle even better with the lighter weight K series. Interested in what gear ratios you will be using. Great work and thanks for sharing.
I’m currently doing the same swap in South Africa. I have a fully built k24 turbo and I’m busy dealing with the teething problems. How can we get in touch ?
It’s been a couple of months since this video. Have you made any progress on the subframe? Great work so far; you guys are making this seem an “easy” swap when your kit become available.
YES! I'm following along here! Can you try using a K series and Honda transmission, transverse mounted, with a (gangsta) lean forward and see if it fits? I want to build a k24 to hold 600-800 hp, but I don't want to build a Porsche transaxle to do the same. Not that custom Honda transmissions are cheap, but they are much more reasonably priced.
@@krazykk4 I don't know where this comment comes from. Didn't you watch THIS VERY VIDEO that you commented on, where he fits the engine and transmission in transverse position? I made that comment during the premier before I saw what he was doing, but it seems like he read my mind (or my and other comments in his other videos)
One thing about choosing a Cayman S vs non-S as a donor. The only reason this car here is available is due to it being an S. The bore scoring issue, which is the primary engine killer in the 987/997 generation, almost only occurs in the long-stroke engines. In these engines, the pistons protrude out of the bores at BDC, which causes increased damage to the skirt coatings. The long-stroke cars also have forged pistons, which fit more loosely in the bores during a cold start than the cast pistons in 2.7L cars. For those two reasons, bore scoring in the smaller engines really only occurs as a result of abuse. And because IMS failure was down to like 0.5% by this point, and few people drive the cars enough to conventionally wear them out, you just won't see many base cars blown up compared to the S (and 911s, which are all long-stroke).
Someone really quoted him 25k to rebuild a 6 cylinder engine? That’s insanity…. Was it to be just a stock rebuild? I still can’t get over that🤣🤦🏻♂️ Other then that… this is literally my dream build! Subscribing to see it thru!
That begs the questions if the K20 can fit this well, then would you be able to fit a k24 with a low profile valve cover? That would be very intresting to see
I wouldn't be opposed to leaning the motor forward another 10 degrees, and/or modifying the engine cover to make a k24 fit. This would be best to figure out while designing the subframe.
25k Canadian for a full engine rebuild with them doing everything from taking out the engine to reassembling everything is acceptable. This car is a Cayman 987 afterall so its not like you are going to find a new engine in a salvage yard for few hundred bucks. But of course a K-Swap is more fun 😉
I have a nearly identical car so I'm watching this with great interest. I think the more common Chevy V8 swap is way too much power but I think the Chevrolet LFX V6 would be a natural swap. I believe that a Camaro sourced engine has close to 350 HP. The V8 is a bit too long and takes a bit of sheet metal work to fit so the V6 should have more than enough fore and aft room. There's always next winter... isn't there ?
I'm curious why not use the audi 2.7tt? It bolts up to the trans, and there is a bolt-on flywheel clutch solution. It appears the larger issues are cooling.
skunk2 make a low profil valve cover now! you should try it! cayman s are around 30k here in quebec. I don’t know how much we could sell the engine/transmission. But it could help to pay for the swap
This was the first Cayman engine i have removed - It is honestly a very easy engine to remove - I am sure i will do another engine removal in the future so i will try and fill that one now that i know whats involved
Yes !! Please!! Your k997 had a great power curve. I have a 2008 Cayman s and really like the k24 build. Can’t you tilt the engine more for clearance with Porsche trans. Also I’ve seen some LS swaps and they slightly modified the engine cover to clear . I mean 3/4 inch would not be drastic at all in the engine cover, I get shit done with a hammer lol !
I have a e36 328i and a eg hatch with a k24 and I don’t believe the k24 is better than my old m52 so I can’t imagine it’s better than a flat six Porsche engine.
@@tuningbynick Don't tell me that! I'm looking for a S now lol. This swap is going to be awesome. I just went and watched the K997 video and liked it way more than I thought I would.
@@tuningbynick You can look for the 987.2 Cayman with the DFI engine. No more IMS and bore scoring issues. However, they are bit more pricy but with more power.
Seems heavy for a manual 987.1. I thought Porsche listed these at just 2900 lbs. Seems more like an automatic curb weight. [Edit] I Forgot, this is a 'S', but still 60 lbs more than expected.
I thought 06 cars didnt suffer from bore scoring. This is a first! Are you sure its bore scoring? 06 cars dont have the alusil liners they have iron cylinders.
$25K was the cheapest quote - Many people have contacted me saying theyve been quoted way more - Obviously there are ways to save costs and im sure there are specialty shops that can do it for cheaper - But from my research, that price is pretty realistic for taking it to a shop and getting it done
@@tuningbynick Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake in commenting on the first video in the series. I see the route you're going now with the transverse mounted drivetrain. I like the use of the underutilized "z" k series.
I don't understand why would you replace that sweet sounding legendary flat 6 for a 4 cyl with way less hp and torque? It makes no sense to me. A V8, I can totally understand for more power and torque. If you boost 4 cyl, it will cut down on reliability. If I have the choice, I stay NA all the way for reliability, less heat, less weight, less cost, less complexity, less chance for something to go wrong and focus on driving instead of working on the car most of the time.
Hi David - If you havent already - Check out some of the videos of my K24 swapped 911 - I did a dyno comparison with an original engine 911 to so show the power difference - Also if you use good quality parts, you wont have issues with a turbo setup - I really do think turbo setups get a bad rep because so many people just cheap out on "eBay" stuff - I have many many customers with good quality setups that have been running for many years and countless miles with no issues
You are the man! I was 2 weeks into swapping a K24 into my Cayman S. I was told it wouldn't fit transverse so I ended up buying a Tr9080 transaxle out of a 2020 corvette to mate up to the K24 in its original orientation. This video has completely put a halt to those plans! now I'm going to go back to my original quaife sequential plan.
how's your build!
Lol y'all two are absolutely bonkers 🤣🙌🏾🙌🏾 this is awesome!! I've always felt that Boxster needs a rowdy 4 banger!
You better call this the K-man
K20 with DSG in a Porsche, you have my attention. Your talent is amazing, so cool so looking forward to the process 👍🙏🚀
i wish you success. too many of these cars are being scrapped because the price of rebuilding the engines on those that desperately need it is outrageous. an inexpensive, reliable and powerful engine is just what's needed.
This build will be known as the k-man car
I’m definitely following this build! I was thinking about doing the same thing so I’m looking forward to any updates from this project. Keep up the great work on it sir.
I'm in. Let me know how much your kit is.
We'll need to talk about engine management and how to get the Porsche computers happy.
wow this is quite amazing guy. Been watching the k997 since the mockup, this would be a game changer for the 987/981 as an alternative to the LS which is the only other commercialized swap. I wonder what the weight difference will be between one of these and an ls swapped cayman. There has to be a sizeable amount of weight, AND MONEY saved between the two.
I was hoping you would be doing this swap after the K997.
Looking forward to it 👍🏼
I instantly subbed when the algorithm blessed me with your 911 k swap videos. I’m looking forward to this since I love the cayman more than the 911.
Nick your gonna change the game 💯👏🏾👏🏾
Thumbs all the way up! Don’t stop keep pushing.
I hope your kits sell good this is awesome
Man you are getting good at swapping Porsches 😁👍🏻 siiiick 🤩
Great job nick and Eric
Awesome! Keep it going!
*you should change the Porsche "Cayman S"badge into "Cayman K" badge*
Obviously it would be a Kayman S. It's right there.
Ive been thinking about this swap alot, but never considered mounting it this way with the honda transmission. Im still kinda skeptical the axles will line up decently, but it looks pretty good so far, definitely a really cool option. I would still try to see if it could be done with the porsche transmission, that would make it abit simpler to integrate with the factory electronics. It would definitely require a custom engine cover since the LS swap already does, and the k series sits much taller than the LS.
Amazing start to the project! really excited to see this work :D :D
Maybe you can rent/ buy a 3D scanner and scan that space, makes the CAD a lot easier
Kayman or Kman ;)
Fantastic Nick, really looking forward to seeing this evolve. It should handle even better with the lighter weight K series. Interested in what gear ratios you will be using. Great work and thanks for sharing.
I’m currently doing the same swap in South Africa. I have a fully built k24 turbo and I’m busy dealing with the teething problems. How can we get in touch ?
Been looking into a swap like this. Love my LS Miata but always been a Porsche fan. Subscribed! & Liked!
Great job Nick - some should try to drop a EJ25 or EJ207 in there... should be much easier and cheaper !
Perfect use case for this swap
You're making me want to buy a Cayman with a blown engine
Good luck finding one. I've been looking for one for a while.
It looks dope , gonna be tuning in for this
It’s been a couple of months since this video. Have you made any progress on the subframe? Great work so far; you guys are making this seem an “easy” swap when your kit become available.
YES! I'm following along here! Can you try using a K series and Honda transmission, transverse mounted, with a (gangsta) lean forward and see if it fits? I want to build a k24 to hold 600-800 hp, but I don't want to build a Porsche transaxle to do the same. Not that custom Honda transmissions are cheap, but they are much more reasonably priced.
@@krazykk4 I don't know where this comment comes from. Didn't you watch THIS VERY VIDEO that you commented on, where he fits the engine and transmission in transverse position?
I made that comment during the premier before I saw what he was doing, but it seems like he read my mind (or my and other comments in his other videos)
I think they're trying to do it with a VW DSG 250. There's a company called "super drivetrain solutions" who make an adapter for the DSG transmission
@@hlq16 that would be a sick setup. Cheap as dirt, not Honda cheap, but good H trannies are pricy too.
this will be a great build, it looks like it was made to go there, subbed!
One thing about choosing a Cayman S vs non-S as a donor. The only reason this car here is available is due to it being an S. The bore scoring issue, which is the primary engine killer in the 987/997 generation, almost only occurs in the long-stroke engines. In these engines, the pistons protrude out of the bores at BDC, which causes increased damage to the skirt coatings. The long-stroke cars also have forged pistons, which fit more loosely in the bores during a cold start than the cast pistons in 2.7L cars. For those two reasons, bore scoring in the smaller engines really only occurs as a result of abuse. And because IMS failure was down to like 0.5% by this point, and few people drive the cars enough to conventionally wear them out, you just won't see many base cars blown up compared to the S (and 911s, which are all long-stroke).
Its gonna become a Kayman!
Looking forward to this!
V8 engines have been swapped into this chassis, surely a k20 should fit without much clearance adjustments.
K swap all the things!
hardly driven, driven hard
cant wait to see more videos on it :)
Someone really quoted him 25k to rebuild a 6 cylinder engine? That’s insanity….
Was it to be just a stock rebuild?
I still can’t get over that🤣🤦🏻♂️
Other then that… this is literally my dream build! Subscribing to see it thru!
Nice work Nick. I shot you an email! This is wicked!
An EJ would make a lot of sense here.
Should put a badge K-Man (K should be "K-Tuned's" font and "man" would be Cayman's font) 😁
That begs the questions if the K20 can fit this well, then would you be able to fit a k24 with a low profile valve cover? That would be very intresting to see
I wouldn't be opposed to leaning the motor forward another 10 degrees, and/or modifying the engine cover to make a k24 fit. This would be best to figure out while designing the subframe.
there is 100% space to make a k24 work in there. Hell modify the plastic trim cover a bit if its touching by few mm
K swap the world!
Awesome!!
Cool project.
Please, please have a badge that says “Kayman” on the back 😍
25k Canadian for a full engine rebuild with them doing everything from taking out the engine to reassembling everything is acceptable.
This car is a Cayman 987 afterall so its not like you are going to find a new engine in a salvage yard for few hundred bucks.
But of course a K-Swap is more fun 😉
I hope they show how the trans looks like from the bottom. Additionally, do you guys sell a kit for your 997.
Great project
I have a nearly identical car so I'm watching this with great interest. I think the more common Chevy V8 swap is way too much power but I think the Chevrolet LFX V6 would be a natural swap. I believe that a Camaro sourced engine has close to 350 HP. The V8 is a bit too long and takes a bit of sheet metal work to fit so the V6 should have more than enough fore and aft room. There's always next winter... isn't there ?
Amazing
Drinking game.... Take a shot every time he says feasible..... Lol 🍻
I'm curious why not use the audi 2.7tt? It bolts up to the trans, and there is a bolt-on flywheel clutch solution. It appears the larger issues are cooling.
4piston makes a dry sump system. Maybe would help squeeze out an inch.
skunk2 make a low profil valve cover now! you should try it!
cayman s are around 30k here in quebec. I don’t know how much we could sell the engine/transmission. But it could help to pay for the swap
Exciting project! Buy that sucker and get busy making more content! :)
Looks like it will fit but how is the axle aligning? It looks way forward of the hubs.
Hey Nick, are you planning on offering a kit to swap in a k24 of some sort for the 997?
god bless you for doing this
Why dont you try a j37 engine here..its shorter than a k series and u can mount it longitudual and keep the porsche tranny..way more power and torque
Just check out a j series on a rx8..you dont need to cut anything basicaly..and if u do a k u have to cut the car and the subframe
Wish you had filmed the engine removal process. It would have been a very useful video for those of us who would like to do this.
This was the first Cayman engine i have removed - It is honestly a very easy engine to remove - I am sure i will do another engine removal in the future so i will try and fill that one now that i know whats involved
EXCELLENT work.Sorry but i didnt understand.Finally What did you do wih transmistion?k series fits exactly to the original cayman s transmition?
Well I may just buy a boxster now
with a honda k series engine- you have reliable Porsche and parts for the honda engine would be very reasonable
What would it take to raise the engine cover? Fit a k24 in there
Yes !! Please!! Your k997 had a great power curve. I have a 2008 Cayman s and really like the k24 build. Can’t you tilt the engine more for clearance with Porsche trans. Also I’ve seen some LS swaps and they slightly modified the engine cover to clear . I mean 3/4 inch would not be drastic at all in the engine cover, I get shit done with a hammer lol !
I’m absolutely getting a kit when these are ready !!!
I have a e36 328i and a eg hatch with a k24 and I don’t believe the k24 is better than my old m52 so I can’t imagine it’s better than a flat six Porsche engine.
Lots of questions why you don’t put something other than Honda. It seems you like the reliability, ease of modding, tuning, etc. Is that the case?
Any updates? Hyped to see how this comes out. Will sell my ls3 987 in a heartbeat and build another.
That $25k quote though! You could just buy another Cayman.
Pretty much. However youd eventually find yourself in this same situation
@@tuningbynick Don't tell me that! I'm looking for a S now lol. This swap is going to be awesome. I just went and watched the K997 video and liked it way more than I thought I would.
@@tuningbynick You can look for the 987.2 Cayman with the DFI engine. No more IMS and bore scoring issues. However, they are bit more pricy but with more power.
NICK! Where is this thing?!?!
Hey nick, have you seen any of the skunk 2 manifolds make decent power over the rbc? Anyone in comments chime in also.
Looking forward to the next video,can you give me an idea of the cost of the conversion kit ?
Did you consider swapping the VR38 Nissan R35 GTR engine into your car. Or know of anyone else who did.
This is an impressive alternative. Will you have a kit for a 986 3.2S?
Seems heavy for a manual 987.1. I thought Porsche listed these at just 2900 lbs. Seems more like an automatic curb weight. [Edit] I Forgot, this is a 'S', but still 60 lbs more than expected.
Porsche published 2965 or something like that. Add a few options and you’re easily over 3000.
@@mcarp22 True. I'm curious which options warrant that much increase. Premium seats, PASM, etc.
@@DC5Brandon The biggest ones are the seats and the stereo. I took like 30lbs of ancient DVD navigation and disc changers out of the frunk of mine.
Cool channel. Come to ohio & put a k24 in my 996 lol
Wait you can bolt a K24 and Vw DSG??? Back to the drawing board
Kayman swap updates 🤞🏼?
Kayman
I thought 06 cars didnt suffer from bore scoring. This is a first! Are you sure its bore scoring? 06 cars dont have the alusil liners they have iron cylinders.
So what are your plans with the eg now?
I’m k swapping a Merkur xr4ti
It this project isn't called Kman im gonna be disappointed lol xD
Can you do a dry sump k24 for more clearance
I'd rather a flat six or V8 any day.
K swap the world lol
Are you still progressing with the Caymen?
Weight is with full gas tank?
go with dry sump?
Will this car be for sale ?
25k for a rebuild ,, bit extreme I would have thought.
$25K was the cheapest quote - Many people have contacted me saying theyve been quoted way more - Obviously there are ways to save costs and im sure there are specialty shops that can do it for cheaper - But from my research, that price is pretty realistic for taking it to a shop and getting it done
i don't like the idea putting a honda engine in a porsche.. or it's not such a bad thing?
Have you suggested a V6 swap instead, j35 or even the (GM) LFX?
I had thought about V6 swaps as well - I just think the K-series will make the most sense in application
@@tuningbynick
Thanks for the reply. It was my mistake in commenting on the first video in the series. I see the route you're going now with the transverse mounted drivetrain.
I like the use of the underutilized "z" k series.
I don't understand why would you replace that sweet sounding legendary flat 6 for a 4 cyl with way less hp and torque? It makes no sense to me. A V8, I can totally understand for more power and torque. If you boost 4 cyl, it will cut down on reliability. If I have the choice, I stay NA all the way for reliability, less heat, less weight, less cost, less complexity, less chance for something to go wrong and focus on driving instead of working on the car most of the time.
Hi David - If you havent already - Check out some of the videos of my K24 swapped 911 - I did a dyno comparison with an original engine 911 to so show the power difference - Also if you use good quality parts, you wont have issues with a turbo setup - I really do think turbo setups get a bad rep because so many people just cheap out on "eBay" stuff - I have many many customers with good quality setups that have been running for many years and countless miles with no issues
Hey are you planning to sell a kit for 987 cayman? And if yes how can I contact you
So how much did you charge for the K swap
Chevrolet LFX V6?
Where are you located? I want to do a K20 Cayman swap.
Im in Toronto. Best way to get in touch is email - nick@tuningbynick.com
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