How do you think Peter Frampton would compare? Like the 55, parts are available and reasonably priced, saw looks good, plain and simple no bells or whistles, fairly simple 2 work on and all @ good saw
In small wood, Frampton might actually be able to take it. Frampton revs higher, but the 55 has gobs of torque. Wait till y'all see it with the 24" bar...and even at 28"! I am a happy boy!
Just finished my 50 Rancher, excited to test it. This makes the second port job on it. I have a mild ported 291 that im comparing to and starting to wonder if im just expecting to much from it.
Sounds good! On another note, never miss an opportunity to call out the asshats. That’s how they learn as well! 😆 In all seriousness, anyone who’s ever built or done anything will tell you if they are being honest and have the capability and aptitude for learning will do things differently the second, third or even the tenth time we do something then we did the first. Standing back and watching is way easier than actually doing so know worries on doing something incorrectly. Hell everything I know is because I’ve done it right, wrong, slowly and eventually efficiently because I have a broader knowledge base on the subject due to experience. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼👍🏼
They don't need anything from the factory. But...this saw is finally cutting like I've always wanted it to. I cut with a 24" bar and even a 28" today. It pulls REALLY well.
@@novicelumberjack So i'm still "scared" of porting. Mainly scared of buying replacement cylinders. If you had to pick the "limiting" parts of the stock porting, what's your opinion? Transfer height? Exhaust roof? Port width? I know the factory timing 51/55 seems to be very similar from what i've read, and i'm going to have a hard time reassembling my 51 without at least doing a LITTLE grinding. What would you do?
@@novicelumberjack yes I'm also going to get a couple muffler from Corey Corp as he does an excellent job! Looks like she eats now for sure. Great job!!
@mattfleming86 Mark out a line the width of a penny from the bottom of the intake. Remove that amount from the intake floor and get the entire intake the texture of a cats tongue. Don't raise the exhaust, but you can widen it if you want. Muffler mod and send it! It's easier than people think but remember...I didn't see any change until I advanced the timing. So you're gonna have to do that.
A good timing advance sure does help a lot. Except the Poulan hightops, they are advance to the limit from my experience. Any advance at all and if fights itself and gets way to hot. 😊
Wow! Responded extremely well to the timing advance! Really is like a whole nother saw👍🏻 We're only human. Anyone who says they don't make mistakes is full of💩 Now that's a husky rancher to be extremely proud to own😃
Totally different saw now! I think your low jet is a bit off sounds like and that may help with your restart on 1st pull instead of 2nd ...maybe just a tad more on the high jet even fuel makes torque
@Bodie and @Dubbs - I've heard often remarks by many of you teachers of this power tool saying that 51 and 55 are so easy to work on. I admire @bodie journey with his learning experiences in multiple vids regarding the 55. I've seen a few vid of @bodie port and mod the 55 and haven't lived up to personal expectation. Now, @bodie - would be great and tremendously helpful for your fellow learner of this tool regarding What have your learned from beginning to end as you workout the 55...lessons learned, mistakes that turnout to be a great learning opportunity, reality vs. expectations, frustration and victories...and the great satisfaction after "through it all." There is an "episode" title - working on 55, let me save you a headach and money.
Think about it more as advancing the flywheel not the crank. Crank stays put flywheel is rotated in direction of engine rotation to advance the ignition timing.
I understand what's going on completely. But in order to measure how far I am advancing, I need to create a set-point and then move the crank backwards. I can't put my angle gauge on the flywheel, it goes on the crank. So what you are trying to point out doesn't do any good unless you can measure it. And the only way I have to measure the degrees of rotation is with my degree gauge which attaches to the crank shaft...thus, in order to advance the flywheel accurately, I must rotate the crankshaft backwards the desired 6⁰ while keeping the flywheel in its original position, and then lock the flywheel down. What you are describing is in fact what is happening, but cannot be measured by any means that I can easily attain. Understand why I did it the way I did?
@@novicelumberjack I absolutely understand why you did it the way you did no mystery there. If your able to find a way to hold the flywheel securely (fixture of some kind?) you can then rotate the crank with your degree gauge in place to set the timing. What I said previously is just a different way of thinking about it is all.
The closed ports on a 4910 allows more higher rpm torque then a 55 open port design. The closed port is more for high rpms then a open port being more of a low-end torque design. 90° has a lot of effects on where your torque/hp and rpm is at. You can adjust a closed port to more of a 90° and increase the low-end or turn it more towards a 45 and increase higher rpm power. The ignition timing with these chainsaws and aftermarket parts is definitely something I'm curious about since I've had a few not run good and wonder if ignition timing as well. Damn making someone wonder again. Hopefully everyone is doing good buddy as well as yourself.
Those ports don't really make the torque look at a 4910 cylinder and the 55 2 completely different styles of ports the 55 resembles more of the open port style even though it is closed
@@rncboy2The Hyway closed port jug is really a half assed job of it, they just closed in an open port jug, the transfers dont have proper closed port shape like say a PP 325.
Who needs free spin. It's good in the cut. I think you need more carb probably, if you want more cushion. On the mess up. People like to be judgemental ass hats. It's in their nature. It ain't Christian, and they will be judged for that later. Forgive them and move on. Ain't your problem, it's theirs. It's all about love brother.
Turned out awesome, sounds good and doesn’t bog down in the cut. Thats a winner there.
You worked your ass off on that saw excellent job, not giving it up! I have the 51 that’s about 18 years old still running like new Love it!
👍🆙BigGuy, you looked so relieved when it sunk down in that oak🙁😯😲😃
How do you think Peter Frampton would compare? Like the 55, parts are available and reasonably priced, saw looks good, plain and simple no bells or whistles, fairly simple 2 work on and all @ good saw
Woke up better than I expected!
In small wood, Frampton might actually be able to take it. Frampton revs higher, but the 55 has gobs of torque. Wait till y'all see it with the 24" bar...and even at 28"! I am a happy boy!
@@novicelumberjack 👍🆙BigGuy
@@aaronpowell4885 Wuz🆙AP
Thank u for speeding up the portion where u are fiddle dicking with the screws on the carb. What a relief.
Sounds way better now. Good job
Thank you! It pulls like a truck now. You'll see the videos tomorrow. 24 and 28 inch bars.
Just finished my 50 Rancher, excited to test it. This makes the second port job on it. I have a mild ported 291 that im comparing to and starting to wonder if im just expecting to much from it.
Glad you finally got it.👍👍
Me too!
Glad it worked out!
Another awesome vid. This is a little angry saw! Good one. Keep it up :-)
Looks like you got it now Boedy. Nice job it's rippen now.
Thanks Codger! I'm really pleased with it now.
Sounds good! On another note, never miss an opportunity to call out the asshats. That’s how they learn as well! 😆 In all seriousness, anyone who’s ever built or done anything will tell you if they are being honest and have the capability and aptitude for learning will do things differently the second, third or even the tenth time we do something then we did the first. Standing back and watching is way easier than actually doing so know worries on doing something incorrectly. Hell everything I know is because I’ve done it right, wrong, slowly and eventually efficiently because I have a broader knowledge base on the subject due to experience. Keep up the good work! 👍🏼👍🏼
Sounds much better.
That looks like a fun saw
Thanks for all your comments, Coolguy. Yes, I used it a good bit today. It is now a very fun little saw!
Glad for you.
Nice!
Much better. 🤘
Way to keep after it! Now I know how to advance timing on my 51 and 55. Time to get to work!! Great job!!
I did nothing to my 51 but a base gasket delete, muffler mod, and timing advance. Honestly happy with the way it cut and behaved.
They don't need anything from the factory. But...this saw is finally cutting like I've always wanted it to. I cut with a 24" bar and even a 28" today. It pulls REALLY well.
@@novicelumberjack So i'm still "scared" of porting. Mainly scared of buying replacement cylinders. If you had to pick the "limiting" parts of the stock porting, what's your opinion? Transfer height? Exhaust roof? Port width? I know the factory timing 51/55 seems to be very similar from what i've read, and i'm going to have a hard time reassembling my 51 without at least doing a LITTLE grinding.
What would you do?
@@novicelumberjack yes I'm also going to get a couple muffler from Corey Corp as he does an excellent job! Looks like she eats now for sure. Great job!!
@mattfleming86 Mark out a line the width of a penny from the bottom of the intake. Remove that amount from the intake floor and get the entire intake the texture of a cats tongue. Don't raise the exhaust, but you can widen it if you want. Muffler mod and send it! It's easier than people think but remember...I didn't see any change until I advanced the timing. So you're gonna have to do that.
Way way better.
Much gooder!
A good timing advance sure does help a lot. Except the Poulan hightops, they are advance to the limit from my experience. Any advance at all and if fights itself and gets way to hot. 😊
Wow! Responded extremely well to the timing advance! Really is like a whole nother saw👍🏻
We're only human. Anyone who says they don't make mistakes is full of💩
Now that's a husky rancher to be extremely proud to own😃
Thank you. Yes, I am a happy boy now!
She sing now good job
Thanks man! It's really pulling very well!
Totally different saw now! I think your low jet is a bit off sounds like and that may help with your restart on 1st pull instead of 2nd ...maybe just a tad more on the high jet even fuel makes torque
@Bodie and @Dubbs - I've heard often remarks by many of you teachers of this power tool saying that 51 and 55 are so easy to work on. I admire @bodie journey with his learning experiences in multiple vids regarding the 55. I've seen a few vid of @bodie port and mod the 55 and haven't lived up to personal expectation. Now, @bodie - would be great and tremendously helpful for your fellow learner of this tool regarding What have your learned from beginning to end as you workout the 55...lessons learned, mistakes that turnout to be a great learning opportunity, reality vs. expectations, frustration and victories...and the great satisfaction after "through it all." There is an "episode" title - working on 55, let me save you a headach and money.
Think about it more as advancing the flywheel not the crank. Crank stays put flywheel is rotated in direction of engine rotation to advance the ignition timing.
I understand what's going on completely. But in order to measure how far I am advancing, I need to create a set-point and then move the crank backwards. I can't put my angle gauge on the flywheel, it goes on the crank. So what you are trying to point out doesn't do any good unless you can measure it. And the only way I have to measure the degrees of rotation is with my degree gauge which attaches to the crank shaft...thus, in order to advance the flywheel accurately, I must rotate the crankshaft backwards the desired 6⁰ while keeping the flywheel in its original position, and then lock the flywheel down. What you are describing is in fact what is happening, but cannot be measured by any means that I can easily attain. Understand why I did it the way I did?
@@novicelumberjack I absolutely understand why you did it the way you did no mystery there. If your able to find a way to hold the flywheel securely (fixture of some kind?) you can then rotate the crank with your degree gauge in place to set the timing. What I said previously is just a different way of thinking about it is all.
Sounds like an old Hodaka Super Rat.
The closed ports on a 4910 allows more higher rpm torque then a 55 open port design. The closed port is more for high rpms then a open port being more of a low-end torque design. 90° has a lot of effects on where your torque/hp and rpm is at. You can adjust a closed port to more of a 90° and increase the low-end or turn it more towards a 45 and increase higher rpm power. The ignition timing with these chainsaws and aftermarket parts is definitely something I'm curious about since I've had a few not run good and wonder if ignition timing as well. Damn making someone wonder again. Hopefully everyone is doing good buddy as well as yourself.
Hey KK, Just 2 point out, this 55 of his has a Hyway closed port cylinder.
Those ports don't really make the torque look at a 4910 cylinder and the 55 2 completely different styles of ports the 55 resembles more of the open port style even though it is closed
@@rncboy2The Hyway closed port jug is really a half assed job of it, they just closed in an open port jug, the transfers dont have proper closed port shape like say a PP 325.
Congrats on finally getting it working the way you want! what kind of tachometer are you using?🎉
Thanks! Oppamma PET-304
Thanks for this info. I was wondering the exact same thing!
Can the timing be advanced with any gains on a Poulan 4620?
Glad you got it running better. I've been meaning to ask you what octane gasoline do you use in your ported saws like this one?
91 octane, but only because its what i have available to me in non-ethanol. ua-cam.com/video/jiJbaQ_t5zA/v-deo.html
Thanks@@novicelumberjack ,we seem to have mostly 90 for non-ethanol up here. Hopefully that is good enough for the Duece I got from you
@@jamiewykes8585 How's it running? I haven't heard anything from you about it.
She sounds mean! Don’t change it.
Want to do another one for me 😂
Who needs free spin. It's good in the cut. I think you need more carb probably, if you want more cushion. On the mess up. People like to be judgemental ass hats. It's in their nature. It ain't Christian, and they will be judged for that later. Forgive them and move on. Ain't your problem, it's theirs. It's all about love brother.
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If everything you did was perfect, I wouldn't watch your channel. Those types annoy me! :)