How Everyone But The Leafs Won The 2008 Alex Steen Trade | NHL Trade Trees
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2020
- Steve Dangle explains how the 2008 Alex Steen trade between the Toronto Maple Leafs and St. Louis Blues just keeps getting worse for Toronto. Meanwhile, Steen is now a Stanley Cup Champion.
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If you wanna make this better for the Leafs the Player drafted right after Daniel Brodin was only someone named Brendan Gallagher
Oof
as a habs fan this is amazing
😂😂😂 Jesus Christ. Toronto’s been taking fat L’s for decades upon decades now.
Woooooooooo!
The Maple Leafs just take L's after L's. Gallagher would have brought them back the grit they needed. But hey, as a Habs fan, I'll take it! Gallagher is the heart and soul of the team!
(Oof the Leafs took an L because of the Habs XD)
Kody Clark, by the way, is Wendel Clark's son
Remember the trade. At first, Colaiacovo was the main part for the Blues, and Steen seemed like the throw in.
Steener just retired. Blues nation will miss him greatly. THANK YOU TORONTO!
Steve's therapist: Oh No, not again
The Craig Rivet one is quite impressive : Montreal got a first (Pacioretty) and Josh Gorges for Rivest and fifth that happened to be Julien Demers (never played NHL).
Sharks traded Rivet to Sabres after two ok seasons for 2 seconds (2009 : William Wrenn, never played. 2010 : Traded to Hurricanes for 5th round pick [Cody Ferrerio, never played] and Niclas Wallin [10 points in 97 games for SJ]. The pick was Mark Alt [18 NHL games, 0 points].
With the Sabres, RIvet was picked up in waivers by the Blue Jackets.
Josh Gorges was a pillar in Montreal (wore the A) for a little more than 7 years as a defensive d (464 gp, 88 points, +35). Traded to Buffalo where he did not show up those numbers (-42 in 4 seasons) for a 2016 second round pick (Chad Krys, does not play in the NHL, and is not killing it in the AHL).
That pick, along with another second round pick in 2016 went to the Blackhawks for Andrew Shaw. Ok, that other pick was Alex Debrincat. Shush
But, Shaw was again traded by the Habs to the Hawks for a 2nd in 2020, a 3rd in 2021 and a 7th in 2021.
Pacioretty put up 226 goals and 448 pts as a Hab (was the Captain) in 626 gp. He got traded to the VGK (106 pts in 137 gp) for Nick Suzuki (41 pts in 71 games as a ROOKIE), Tomas Tatar (119 in 148 points) AND a second round pick in 2019 (which got traded to the Kings for a 3rd and 5th round pick in 2019)
The second round pick by the Kings was Samuel Fagemo (13 pts in 7 gp for team Sweden in the 2020 WHJC). Seems pretty good.
3rd pick for Habs was Mattias Norlinder. Played WHJC, no points in 7 games as a D. But highly ranked prospect.
5th round pick : Jacob Leguerrier. Good prospect. Double his total points in the OHL this year.
Furthermore, just because this trade looks to good for me as a Habs fan, i recommend the Gomez for basically Chris Higgins and Ryan Mcdonagh trade. It's a doozy.
Also, at the rate that Alex Galchenyuk is getting traded, the Domi deal will be a must in the future.
Jason Demers was an NHL player in that 5th round pick. He turned into Brendan Dillon You're incorrect on your Rivet portion. Dillon was traded for a pick which is now Tristen Robbins (drafted this year)
www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=100346
@@rollercoasterfweak demers was drafted in the 7th round
jason ^
look at every Doug Armstrong trade. Its insane. Brayden Schenn for Jori Lehtera, Oreiley for Berglund. I dont know why anyone trades with him
Eric Johnson for Chris Stewart and Kevin Shattenkirk too.
@@josephmiller7198 yeah man it's crazy
I'll probably cry a little bit when Army isn't our GM anymore because god most of the trades he's made have been slam dunks.
@@joesontag74 Yeah. Army is half the reason why we got our cup. He’s probably more important to the franchise than Vladdy at this point.
Yeah but he traded the entire cup winning players
Steve please do more of these. Best part of the channel right now
Blues fan here. Thank you, Toronto for our boy Steen...never was going to be an elite but has always been a consistently-awesome two-way forward and strong leader.
As for Splodeybones Colaiacovo, well, he gave us - and the world - one of the best GIFs ever. Look it up!
Tyler Bozak is the same thing. Letting him go was a mistake
That gif is amazing thank you for that
I remember how mad I was when they made that trade. I was watching Pierre McGuire say Steen would never be a goal scorer or anything other than a bottom 6 guy. And I thought, Pierre McGuire would never make it as an analyst on TSN.
Alex Steen went to my school in Winnipeg...he was 3 years younger than me, so it's not like we hung out, but I did know who he was (because I followed the Jets, and at the time his dad was one of my favourite players). He didn't have an aura of fame around him though...thankfully, people treated him pretty normally, from what I could tell.
Yes. Just give us more of these.
It’s kinda hard to be a Maple Leafs fan. I feel bad for them
I won't feel bad until I have Matthews and Marner on my team.
@@KadruH gonna go out on a limb and say that neither Matthews, nor Marner stay with the Leafs. Certainly won't win a cup with them.
this trade wasn't bad, steen and carlo are actually garbage. the phil kessel trade is what ruined them - tyler seguin and dougie hamilton still hurt.
I don't. Oh hey look, 67 likes 😂😂
@@truecrimejungle lmfao Steen has almost as many cups as the entirety of the maple leafs roster
That was awesome. These trade videos are incredibly interesting and I enjoy Dangle’s presentation so please keep them going!
Love these videos Steve!! Thanks for keeping us entertained during quarantine
I didn't even like the trade when it was made. "Trader Cliff's" last move as Leafs GM handed the Blues a core forward for a decade and gave the Leafs squat. What a joke.
Keep these coming these are awesome
Steen and Petro are the only players continually on the roster since 2008, Perron left and returned after several seasons. Shows how solid Steen has been for the Blues
Perron has only ever signed contracts with the Blues.
Can you laugh and cry at the same time? Asking for a friend.
What is the all time “Leafs draft
Picks drafted to other teams” team?
Let's. Go. Blues.
We. Went. Blues.
No
The moral of this story is that GM'ing is really f*ckin hard and that Doug Armstrong is a great f*ckin GM. #LGB
Doug Armstrong is a genuis.got scheen o riley for pennies.traded up for Schwartz
Doug Armstrong wasn't the GM in 2008. Pleau was still the GM at this time.
You should do the Alexei Yashin trade
YESSSS. THAT WOULD BE SO COOL
Yashin for spezza and chara
@@lalk3434 it was yashin to the isles for bill muckalt, Zdeno Chara and a 2002 first round pick, which was second overall, and ottawa used that pick to select jason spezza
@@lalk3434 spezza was traded then in 2015 to dallas along with ludwig Karlsson in exchange for alex chassion, prospects nicholas paul and alex guptill, along with a second round pick in that years draft.
@@nokesysthoughts4293 yeah
I remember playing ball hockey with Alex steen the year before he got traded back when i was 11 or so. He lived right around the corner from me. Was such a nice guy.
We love our Steener
I appreciate that you pointed out Steen's all around game, especially defensively. One of the best 2 way players I've ever seen. Not a superstar, but the kind of player every team wants.
I feel your pain Steve. I did the same thing wanting a Brad Boyes jersey, but decided to go with Eric Johnson thinking he would be in STL forever...then he was traded to COL a month later.
That trade was immediately helpful for the Blues. I remember Brad Blues stepping up as the Blues sniper and it kinda left no where for Stempniak, given his play style. So, it almost felt like a way to just let Brad Boyes continue to do his thing, and on top of that Colaiacovo and Boyes had great chemistry on the power play. Steen took a couple seasons to get off the 4th line. He kept getting stuck with Brad Winchester and BJ Crombeen, who had plenty of grit but no puck moving ability. Steen had to really persevere to stay in the league with that lousy situation. To this day, I’m still surprised when I think back to how terrible that line was and how the center of that line will probably have his jersey retired for the Blues.
Steen also turned out to be an incredible team/locker room guy. He selflessly went down to the 4th line last year and that line dominated, especially in the playoffs, and is arguably the most important thing that won the Blues the Cup.
Wheeler Compton, Steen-Sundqvist-Barbashev... most teams would be happy to have that as their second line.
@@AV57 Dangle mentioned that Steen has 10 shorthanded goals in his career but failed to highlight that one of them was in OVERTIME of a PLAYOFF GAME vs the Kings lol. Legend.
Wheeler Compton, if I recall, the penalty was just brutal, too. It looked like the refs had just given the game to the Kings and then Quick gave it back to Steen.
@@AV57 You are correct, Shattenkirk had just taken a double-minor. My daughter and a friend were there a couple rows up behind the penalty box. You could feel the crowd deflate. How can you survive 4 minutes? Steen unexpectedly rushed Quick, who then just misplayed it off the boards into the front of the net. Goal, Pandemonium! Blues went on to lose the series in 6, but what a moment. This season my I bought my daughter a signed mystery puck, opened it, Steen! Awesome
Lindros/Forsberg trade. And the offer that the Rangers laid on the table, including Leetch, Gravy and a zillion dollars.
Awesome vid !
Talk about the Montreal trade that involved Jan Bulis, Richard Zednik, Trevor Linden and Dainius Zubrus.
Steve you really gotta create these trade trees and link them in the description.
Duchene trade from Colorado. Epic. Frachise changing for avalanche
Steen is my favorite player
Rocket Fire same
Back here after he retired :(
You didn't even mention that Kody Clark is Wendel's son lol
"How Everyone But The Leafs Won", could have just stopped there.
Leafs gave gifts to a lot of teams
Capitals- Grobaver
Blues- Steen
And more worst trade the Leafs ever made
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 The pick right after Daniel Brodin was Brendan Gallagher, who was drafted by the Habs. Another L for the Leafs.
To add insult to injury, Lee Stempniak had 14 goals in 62 games for the Leafs the season he was traded to Arizona... aaand then proceeded to score 14 goals in 18 games for the Coyotes. Hockey gods really hate the Leafs, eh?
Us coyotes fans were calling him ovechniak lol
Stempniak also scored the first playoff goal in Winnipeg for Jets 2.0.
It takes a very war hardened type of person to be successful in Toronto. Otherwise the moment you put that jersey the pressure drops you a tier. So if your a franchise player, well now with the pressure, your a super star. Super stars, are stars, stars become elite, elite become good. So on a so forth.
Hi. Vancouver fan here.
Can you do one of these trade trees for Linden? I think he was the single most important player in Canucks history that allowed them to thrive for years because he was traded away but I could be wrong.
Thanks.
Plus now with the expansion draft, Seattle has a great goalie setup so far with Grubauer and Martin Jones. After all this time he's still tending the goal In the NHL
These are so interesting!!!
Could you break down the Burns for Setoguchi and subsequent Havlat for Heatley?
Never understood why Stempniak never found a team that wanted to stick with him
I've never felt so conflicted as both a Blues fan and a Steve Dangle fan. I'm sorry, Steve.
I'm just wondering the goaltender in the background in this video is that Félix Potvin
Would you like to buy his Canadian world Junior's rookie
mint condition
I want to see the trade tree for the Pavel Bure to Florida from Vancouver
You should do the the three way trade between the avs sens and preds,
Turris to preds whole duchene to sens. And then girard kamenev picks prospects to avs
This guy is smart and entertaining, but do he always talk about the Toronto Leafs ? If yes its a shame, there is 30 other teams in the NHL now and so much others historic trades that Toronto did'nt took part but worth imao a scrutiny like this ! Great video nonetheless ! The Mulbury trades should be more than interesting !
Got two trades I would love to see on this:
1. Avs, Preds and Sens (you all know the deal)
2. Kovalchuck to NJ Devils from the Thrashers for most notably Oduya and a first rounder in 2010 (Kevin Hayes, picked by the Blackhawks after they got the pick for Big Byff, just think of all the deals you can see there that ends up with the Rangers getting Trouba!!!).
For the love of GOD, Sportsnet, PLEASE leave out the background music. Steve is more than interesting and entertaining enough to keep my attention thank you very much.
Hey Steve it all started with a Buffalo Sabres fan being traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs that's hilarious thank you Lee from West Seneca New York
hahaha
These are my favourite
Do the Brayden Schenn trade btwn the Flyers and Blues!
Philly Nation, wait another 5 years to see how the draft picks work out.
Also, not enough follow up trades
@@AV57 that trade was genuis we traded lehtara got his salary off books scheen is a star clearly states Louis won the trade
Chris Young, you _might_ be correct, but you can’t definitively say that yet, because the two 1st rounders the Flyers got out of it are still way too young to dismiss. Farabee and Frost could wind up being huge pieces of a Flyers dynasty one day.
please do more Leaf trade failures. They are fun :)
You should do a trade tree where Mike Green should've been a Detroit Red Wing at the very beginning!
Do the Lindros-Forsberg trade next!
Steve he's from West Seneca right outside of Buffalo New York is a Buffalo Sabres fan Lee stempniak
Kovalchuk to the Devils in ‘10. Maybe Steve can Dangle that one.
This was a perfect example of the kind of thinking the Leafs organization was guilty of at the time and that was the issue was the players and not the organization as a whole. Steen and Colaiacovo were just fine in St. Louis thank you very much.
I love how we nabbed Wendel Clark's son with a Toronto pick but he honestly doesn't look that good atm.
within the first 3 seconds steve already called me stupid
I just wanted to see the damn graph!
Can you do the Erik Johnson trade?
Fun Facts: Stempy has made about $25,000,000 playing for those 10 NHL teams. Not a bad way to earn a living.. and C. Colaiacovo vs. Games Played/year was less about injuries and more because of healthy scratches. But STL did get good use from him!
Cliff Fletcher made that trade and also signed Jeff finger that year.
Not surprised. This is the same team that traded Rask for Raycroft.
You should do the Gretzky trade
You had me at "how everyone but the leafs won"😊
How about the Seguin trade to Dallas?
Do a Trevor Linden trade tree! please and thank you!
Wasn't BJ Crombeen part of the deal coming from the Leaf's? Or am I just way off there.
Less than a year ago I got a Tom Brady jersey... I feel your pain. And three and a half years ago a Gronkowski Jersey.
Can you please do the Phaneuf's trades to show how multiplayer deals tend to be garbage for garbage.
Stajan and Steen were gonna be our saviours lol
This trade was awesome
With the talk about the NHL salary cap maybe going down 40% next year and slamming every team’s cup window shut, I think it might be time to just let old people die.
Well, there is something else included in that trade. As a Blues die-hard fan, I went to UA-cam after Stempniak was traded, to find out what the Blues were getting in return. I found a video by some goof by the name of Steve Dangle analyzing the trade.
So, Toronto, by proxy of you Steve, kinda also ended up getting hundreds of UA-cam views.
That's something, right?
AT THE TIME I SCREAMED AT THE TV IN THE GYM!!! IT SUCKED THEN!
Fun Fact since this trade the Blues have gone 14-5 against the Toronto Maple Leafs.
The Blues always trade for Fan Favorites for Fan Favorites, and I feel Steen would steepen the Garden Hex in the NHL Base because it would tie the New York Rangers 54 Year Hex Mark.
I hated that trade then, and I still hate it now.
I have Alexander steen Jersey and I’m a 05 got it when I was 2
I’m still waiting for you to explain how the Colorado Rockies trading for Chico resch lead to the devils acquiring Taylor hall
For some reason, UA-cam thinks Steve is speaking in Korean.
How about instead of a closeup of that radio worthy mug of yours, you incorporate some highlights of the players.
Hey man, the Flames got something too!
Blues also got a GM. 😂
🤣 Steve, how about a top 10 list of players the Leafs traded away to win the Stanley Cup!
Once again, Sportsnet putting their hair in a tie to blow the Leafs Organization.
Steener! Thanks Leafs. LGB!
sounds like a common trend steve... lol
If Steen can stay healthy keep at the level he is at and STL wins cup two he might hit the HOF
The worst part, the Leafs at least could drafted Zach Trotman; by definition isn't exactly a steel either. But 83 games is still more then 10 games. Not much more. But at least a 7th-8th NHL defensemen.
All former Leafs players win their first Stanley Cup immediately after being traded from Toronto. Kessel, Steen, Bozak, etc.....
The Kessel trade was the worst trade in NHL history. Should analyze that one sometime.
You so have to start selling custom made chairs with the names of players the leafs gifted away/screwed up with! Make it like a collect them all deal!!
Everyone reply with suggestions!
*Russ Courtnall
SOMEONE tweet this to Carlo xD
man I'm a Sharks fan, but I feel bad for Leafs fans with a segment like this
Colorado Avalanche legend Brooks Orpik.
Hi steve