I think it's the best Batman movie of them all. The only movie that actually did Batman! Not Burton Batman, or Shumacher Batman, or Nolan Batman or Snyder Batman, but actually the Batman! And obviously the best Joker as well...
You know, I'm happy for Mr.Hamill. I love that he's so passionate about being true to such an iconic character. He gives it such care and foresight that it never gets old.
Back when I was growing up this is the joker I will ALWAYS remember no matter what no one will top this guy. Mark is outstanding and is the best voice casted character in DC animated history. As a Superman fan. Mark has made the joker my favorite villain of all time.
There's a certain RHYTHM to these things: Mark Hamill says it's his last time playing the Joker, they get a new voice that isn't quite as good, so they just get Mark Hamill again and the game starts all over!
Lol, imagine this then ok so they make two masks one of himself and one as the joker. So when he says that line well I'm the joker pulls off mask one to reveal the joker mask and then let's out a laugh, and some improv. The voice of Vader comes in and says no you can't be. Joker says we'll Wich version of reality are you living in and a cackle end scene.
2:46 The way he starts describing how he wanted the Joker to sound is pretty much exactly what I would've described that voice too. Just shows you how aware he is of the small details, and that's why he's so brilliant in the part.
What's up with WB asking him to quit quoting Joker lines? That seems really counter-productive. The man is basically introducing and selling Batman: The Animated Series to a new generation as well as reminding old fans to give it another look. I can only see this as positive, really. Or is it that they wanna fade him out so that new actors taking over The Joker don't have to be compared to him? Hm.
Andreas Nordvall WB and other companies are too afraid they're going to lose money. Selling your work to a company has a positive and a negative. The positive is that they make your work known. The negative is that if you ever cease your job with them, your work is still owned by them.
+Andreas Nordvall New actors taking over the Joker role will definitely be compared to legendary Mark Hamill by many fans old and new. That's the business, so people in these companies should get over it.
It really rather disgusts me that the WB would threaten to sue Mark Hamill just for quoting a scene from a Batman: TAS episode. Can you imagine if LucasArts threatened to sue him for quoting a Star Wars scene?
Yeah, the lawyers are really giddy to threaten lawsuits at the drop of a hat. I remember when Adam West went on the Howard Stern Show, back in 1994, with the Batman mask from the 60s TV show. He allowed Howard Stern to try it on, but Adam West, whose whole career is that Batman show, could not wear it because the WB lawyers told him they would sue him for copyright infringement if he did. I can understand filing a lawsuit IF the performer was trying to make a living off a character he is no longer entitled to play, but threatening Hamill for uttering a few phrases and an occasional laugh? Just stupid.
I don't like it either, but I can understand the lawyerly mindset. According to the law, if a company doesn't defend against every single infringement it knows about (and unauthorized public performance counts as an infringement), then that non-defense can be used as evidence of copyright/trademark abandonment in a later case. It probably wasn't Warners going "how dare he?!?" so much as "oh crap... we gotta send the letter or else some cocky lawyer down the line will find a way for this to snowball into us losing the rights to The Joker..."
Why I love Mark Hamill's Joker is something that is multilayered. The articulation of organised chaos, simply as Joker is this unapologetic protagonist who wants to drive Batman insane and to his breaking point, but who never wants him dead, because it would end this macabre dance/extremely unhinged romance in Joker's mind. His laugh is the Joker personified in a sound - evil, maniacal, and seeing death and chaos as the punchline, but above it all, it is Mark Hamill showing with such enthusiasm, that he is as much a fan of the characters involved as he is an extremely talented and humble actor. When they have redone animations of Joker, because Mark did something in the recording booth that they want articulated, nobody can match what he brings to the role. Deep inside, Mark remains a child at heart, and that child reading a Batman comic book comes through every time you hear Joker speak and laugh. As a true DC fan, I am eternally grateful for all he brings, as he surpassed all of our expectations, and gave it even more life and brightness.
Really DC sent Mark Hamill a letter saying he can't do readings as the Joker if it's stuff from the shows or stuff? That seems like a dick move on DC's end.
BeingHonest Umm... yeah in a way, he does. There's something called Star Wars which is owned by Disney. And last I checked he's in the next Star Wars film.
***** Troy Baker was in Arkham Origins. And interestingly, imitating Hamill quite well, exept his signature laughter. I think that Troy Baker was voicing a 20y younger version of Hamills Joker from Arkham universe and if he was voicing his own Joker without any baggage, he would take a different approach instead of just imitating Hamill.
dntm123 He acctualy retired, its (literally) a cameo by Joker in Arkham Knight. I read that this approach was interesting for him, he liked the script and felt that finishing Arkham trilogy like that would be much nicer . Also Kevin Conroy talked him to it. But Hamill stopped doing voice for Joker as a whole (no movies or tv shows). But you are right, because he did Arkham City after that, but I guess that he was not informed about its existence during that time he did this panel. Also Joker sells Batman games so they had to force him in somehow :D
It's so silly to me in retrospect to think that there was even a chance that Hamill's Joker would be rejected in favor of Nicholson's. For me, there's no contest. I really like Nicholson's's Joker but Hamill's is much better. For me it's 1. Mark Hamill 2. Heath Ledger 3. Jack Nicholson (Though I still consider it a tie for 3rd between Nicholson and Troy Baker).
I'd rate Jared Leto's performance as fairly solid and a bit more multidimensional than Heath Ledger's Joker. When I first saw The Dark Knight, I was impressed by how good a job he did, but on subsequent viewings, I realized that the Heath Ledger Joker is just pure psychopath with no punchline at all. None of the sudden shifts from being your best friend to hurling you into a vat of acid. In the comics and animated series, The Joker was psychotic, but he could also charm someone instead of intimidating them and THAT is what made him so terrifying: you never really knew what he would do. Heath's take, while interesting at first, is nothing more than Tony Montana with bad clown makeup but with even less charm than Montana had. People hate me for this, but over time I am less and less impressed with Heath's one dimensional Joker compared to Mark Hamill, Jack Nicholson, or Cesar Romero. Hell, Leto actually showed more dimensions than Ledger did in the nightclub scene. He started off as business-like and approachable before going full psycho while Ledger was stuck in psycho mode the whole time.
@RaderizDorret - I agree. Leto's Joker felt more in line with what Mark Hamill says about the character. He felt unpredictable. You got a pretty good idea that someone was going to get hurt, or die, with Ledger's Joker. With Leto, it seemed more ambiguous.
***** I also kind of like the big-bling-street-thug image of The Joker. He's always been the guy who started off as a nobody but later on developed into THE powerhouse of the criminal world short of those like Lex Luthor (who is a pretty one-dimensional bad guy who still remains interesting because you never really know what his angle is though you know there always is an angle he's working). Leto took heat for the writers wanting to make him more like a street hood who rose to prominence than a classical 30s era Made Man and I think that was actually a smart move. The Mafia is still one of the powerhouses in the criminal world, but they no longer are the biggest game in town to most people (just saying what I've observed, having grown up around Detroit which historically had a very strong Mafia presence but it's faded to the street gangs in prominence in most peoples' minds). It's actually another layer to the unpredictability woven into his character. With the Mafia, they're largely focused on business and psychos are rooted out by the established Families sooner or later (usually by ambushing the bastard before he catches on), but with Street Gangs, you.really don't know what you'll get. On one hand, they are much more likely to be overtly violent but on the other they can also be more focused on business than the image of "keeping it real" (at least among the leadership. Both sides are VERY dangerous and are not to be approached lightly and without understanding (truly understanding) the consequences thereof, but the image of. Leto's Joker is an interesting and more modernized take on the Joker and how he got where he was. Instead of being an associate of Made Men who managed to beat them all, he's a two-bit flamboyant street thug who made it and no one fucks with him lightly. It's a very similar story, but exchange Mafia for street gang. It has this Saint's Row vibe to it that is fun to go with.
RaderizDorret Again, I have a similar view of the character. I will say that street gangs have become far more organized than they were in the past, but I think the Joker's role in the Gotham underworld would be a little different than he would in a real life setting. Gotham's underworld is terrorized by Batman, and the Joker is the guy who not only openly challenges him, but always has great fun doing so. That alone gives him street cred like you couldn't get anywhere else. More than a street thug, I'd think of him more like a criminal celebrity, sort of a Marilyn Manson of crime. lol
I have to confess that Mark Hamill is one of the last actors I would expect to play the Joker. On the other hand, one of the hallmarks of a great actor is knowing how to both be a good guy and be a good bad guy.
I would like to mention. That his joker voice has changed over the years. It was I bit more high piched and clean in the first few seasons of the animated series. Then it got a little more raspy after the redesign. By the movie return of the joker in the flashback. Wich in my opinion is the best looking version of the animated series Joker, is the best sounding. Now it all sounds like the Arkham video games joker. I of course understand that Mark Hamill is not as young as he was when he did the voice in the animated series. But the Joker now. Is not the same sounding Joker that he was in the animated series. And even in batman beyond return of the joker. But Mark is still king when it comes to the Joker.
I agree with you. I prefer his Joker voice in the early seasons of BTAS and Phantasm. He had some of the best variation in his laugh during those seasons too. Ref. The Laughing Fish, Christmas With the Joker. I think there were a few in The New Adventures of Batman an Robin too.
" Without Batman Crime has no Punchline " Love it Love Mark Hamil as the Joker Who is gonna do a better job then him when he Passes Away ? one day who's going to do the voice of the Joker when Mark Hamil Passes Away and do the famous lines of the Joker ? particularly that Famous Line " Without Batman Crime has no Punchline " Gotta Love Mark Hamil.
Did everyone forget he also played the trickster in the flash in 1990 and also in the new cw flash series, I always thought he got the joker voice from there.
I think Mark Hamill should recreate this line form the Batman 1960s episode The Joker is Wild: "And now, people of Gotham City, the moment you have all been waiting for. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The grand finale! The climax of my performance! The zenith of my career! The unmasking of Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder!"
They say that Mark Hamill is no longer the joker. NONSENSE! It's like saying Craig McCracken no longer is the creator of Powerpuff girls. Or that Elvis is no longer the king of rock. Or that Mako is no longer Iroh. Mark Hamill brought more than just the voice to the character and that's something you cant copyright.
@@michaeloconnor5904 “Elvis took my Tutti Frutti and I was disgusted.... BUT, by him singing it, he made it bigger and made ME bigger!“ Little Richard There you have it. Elvis IS the King of Rock and Roll.
WB why don't you want your fan base to feel nostalgia and excitement for your IP? Doesn't this only drive you Fans to go out and watch The Animated Series and movies, and play the Arkham games again? Doesn't this make you fan base eagerly anticipate what you will do next? Short sighted move WB, Mark Hamill will not have that voice forever, unfortunately you should let him give you all the free takes you can get.
]-)ΣΔ†]-[ By now, he is acctually more known for doing Joker, for past 20 years, than anything else. He was almost every Joker in almost every animated Batman movie/tv show.
If Hamill never made another reference to DC, Batman or The Joker directly, could they legally stop him from making the voice? Do they literally have a copyright on the voice itself? Or is Hamill just not legally allowed to 'portray' The Joker, even unofficially? If he voiced a character on let's say, Family Guy, named Chuck who was in no way similar to the Joker, could Hamill as an artist still use the voice and not get sued? That would be weird. Almost like NBC telling John Krasinski he couldn't ever look directly at a camera again, otherwise it's a "Jim face" and infringes on their copyrights, or like Disney suing Gilbert Gottfriend because he 'isn't Iago anymore'.
Uh-uh. I remember very well how the "fans" turned into rage machines over Michael Keaton being cast as the Batman. Can you imagine their reaction fo Luke Skywalker being cast? No way.
It's BS how WB is doing this. But it will bite them on the ass once the Star Wars films come out. WB will be begging him to quote scenes from Batman. Mark Hamill will get paid for WB stupid decisions.
I heard dee bradley baker laugh (when I saw ultimate Spider Man as carnage) it's sounds good but mark hamill can do it better, pretend carnage is voiced by mark hamill and think about it. OH... And another question which insane laugh is better Dee Bradley baker or mark hamill?
for a full generation, Mark Hamill will always be the Joker. Jack Nicholson had the face, but Hamill had the voice. although, if he actually was allowed to play the Joker, i think that would have been the most watched movie ever, bc everyone would that loves his voice as Joker would finally get to see him act it out. dont get me wrong, Ledger did a good job, but we all know Hamill would have killed it, and box office numbers would have shown it. would be like the opposite of Puss in Boots, they were thinking, who best to voice a cat that is like Zoro, than Zoro himself? so they asked Banderas to voice it.
quite obvious why they dont want him doing the joker live^^ hes just too good and loves it too much, thats why "the people" will always love him best. and troy baker is right out copying him^^
Ovegrow120 I think that Troy Baker is just forced to do a Hamill imitation, he would do it his own way if WB did not need a Hamill replacement. New actor should have a new Joker, but that did not happen.
Jakub Matei well thats probably true- still i just dont like it. sure we can speculate, but the fact remains they more or less fired hamil and nobody is forcing an artist to do anything- especially if they are getting payed to do it. i just dont like it, replacing someone like that- its wrong. were not talking about a product here but about artists and their work. and sure work is great but on the other hand its kind of despisable to be the one replacing someone with their own routine- while the company even goes as far as screwing the fans by sending hamil a cease an desist notice, just because he and went and did a bit for them, shame on him he actually enjoys doing it, thats not art- thats capitalism and i dont think thats something a real artist should agree to do. then again a real artist is someone working as such so never mind me.
Troy Baker was awesome as Joker.Of course he copied Mark in Origins,The joker from origins is still the same joker from the other games.It wouldn't make sense if he sounded differently.
Horrible audio, you can barely hear Mark, but all the ambient noise and children crying are louder than he is. And what is the damn crunching noise throughout?
It's a microphone on a headpiece which helps to amplify his voice through speakers around the room. It's mainly for convenience so that he doesn't have to hold one for a long duration of time. Another alteration is where a microphone piece similar in size to the head piece microphone rests on the collar of a t-shirt which provides the same support. If you are referring to his left ear, however, it appears to be a hearing aid. Mark Hamill is growing older now but his impressions and characters are still young and fresh!
I'd assume the whole "WB not wanting him to quote Joker things" has to do with Lucasfilm being owned by Disney, which is one of their biggest competitors. Conflict of interest
+OddJobKid99 why? Alot of the actors voice or othewise work for multiple companies. Marvell and Dc heroes have had the same voice actor. Besides which Mark Hamill can arguably be known more for the joker now then Luke Skywalker. Wouldnt it be better to see Luke Skywalker in the disney movie and think of the Joker Laugh and want to suddenly watch batman XD
Whenever I read comics, I read all Joker lines in Mark's voice :d
We all do!
+LegendOfLegends19100 yep
And Batman's in Kevin Conroy's voice, because they are perfect!
Same here
Dimitar Venov whenever i read anyhting the joker gas ever said comic, book, quote i always read it in marks voice
Mark hamil is the man who made me love joker. Batman mask of the phantasm is one of my favorite movies ever
I think it's the best Batman movie of them all. The only movie that actually did Batman! Not Burton Batman, or Shumacher Batman, or Nolan Batman or Snyder Batman, but actually the Batman! And obviously the best Joker as well...
Same here
Batman Mask of the Phantasm was nothing short of brilliant.
I watched that movie SO MANY TIMES as a kid, my Mom to this day can quote every single line from the movie :P
I liked joker from forrestfire101
You know, I'm happy for Mr.Hamill. I love that he's so passionate about being true to such an iconic character. He gives it such care and foresight that it never gets old.
Back when I was growing up this is the joker I will ALWAYS remember no matter what no one will top this guy. Mark is outstanding and is the best voice casted character in DC animated history. As a Superman fan. Mark has made the joker my favorite villain of all time.
me too dude he is the best
Turns out that the Joker is actually the delusional state of mind that Luke Skywalker fell into after turning to the dark side.
Depressing
after 7 and 8 who wouldn't want the rebels to burn and see this over milked cow meat its end
Mason Stone
Headcanon accepted.
+Mason Stone The Joker and Luke Skywalker are two separate characters.
Ultra Spawn
r/woosh
This man is a legend...A legend i say.
I know! I can't believe Tidus graced that stage!
He will always be my favourite Joker.
There's a certain RHYTHM to these things: Mark Hamill says it's his last time playing the Joker, they get a new voice that isn't quite as good, so they just get Mark Hamill again and the game starts all over!
Darth Vader: Luke, I am your father!
Luke Skywalker: Oh really? Well I'm The Joker!
Darth Vader: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Ya if luke a goody toshoe jedi voise the mad clown prince of crime
I loved this line when Mark said in the Flas series as the Trickster. :D Like a cheap version of Joker...
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Lol, imagine this then ok so they make two masks one of himself and one as the joker. So when he says that line well I'm the joker pulls off mask one to reveal the joker mask and then let's out a laugh, and some improv. The voice of Vader comes in and says no you can't be. Joker says we'll Wich version of reality are you living in and a cackle end scene.
Darth Vader : Luke I am your father!
Luke Skywalker : And I... am... IRON MAN !!
Get used to it, kiddo.
BEEEEHEAHEAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA
2:46 The way he starts describing how he wanted the Joker to sound is pretty much exactly what I would've described that voice too. Just shows you how aware he is of the small details, and that's why he's so brilliant in the part.
Mark is a great storyteller as well.
+Pale Horse He is. Mark is god at explaining things at a level everyone can understand. He is a Jedi Master.
+Super Soldier agreed
i like to think that mark hamill when driving curses people in the jokers voice. He could win any fight in a bar with that crazy voice he can do
As he did in Kingsman.
You're wonderful, Mark Hamill. I have too much respect for this man.
You can never have too much respect for the Ham-man himself.
+Brady Wall I guess you are right.
Mark Hamill is now 63, the same age Alec Guinness was in A New Hope.
The more you know!
He looks better than Alec Guinness did.
BeefyLevinson And now we have a new Star Wars movie coming out....The Force Awakens. And Mark Hamill grew a beard for the movie. Coincidence? Hmmm...
+Schone23666 And since Lucasfilm is owned by Disney, I can now make this reference.
Coincidence? I THINK NAWT!!!
They say "sixty is the new fourty".
I'm gonna miss mark hamill as the joker so much.
Me too because he good acting as the joker :_____(
Troy Baker is gonna do fine job as the Joker, I almost cant tell the difference between him and Mark!
Well Hamill did say something that if there going to do a Killing Joke DVD Movie he would do the Joker Voice
Evin Ceniceros That needs to happen so much. Get on the ball, Warner Brothers!
Yet he still came back for Arkham Knight
What's up with WB asking him to quit quoting Joker lines? That seems really counter-productive. The man is basically introducing and selling Batman: The Animated Series to a new generation as well as reminding old fans to give it another look. I can only see this as positive, really. Or is it that they wanna fade him out so that new actors taking over The Joker don't have to be compared to him? Hm.
Andreas Nordvall WB and other companies are too afraid they're going to lose money. Selling your work to a company has a positive and a negative. The positive is that they make your work known. The negative is that if you ever cease your job with them, your work is still owned by them.
Fortunately, they may have a copyright on the Joker's lines, but not his voice :P
+Andreas Nordvall New actors taking over the Joker role will definitely be compared to legendary Mark Hamill by many fans old and new. That's the business, so people in these companies should get over it.
Kevin Conroy is not allowed to do the same thing with Batman.
Lol WB had a bad PR Team
Mark Hamill is the ultimate Joker! I can't wait for The Killing Joke!
Mark Hamill is and will always be the best Joker.
It really rather disgusts me that the WB would threaten to sue Mark Hamill just for quoting a scene from a Batman: TAS episode. Can you imagine if LucasArts threatened to sue him for quoting a Star Wars scene?
WB, just like Disney, is a heap of crappy hypocrisy.
Yeah, the lawyers are really giddy to threaten lawsuits at the drop of a hat. I remember when Adam West went on the Howard Stern Show, back in 1994, with the Batman mask from the 60s TV show. He allowed Howard Stern to try it on, but Adam West, whose whole career is that Batman show, could not wear it because the WB lawyers told him they would sue him for copyright infringement if he did. I can understand filing a lawsuit IF the performer was trying to make a living off a character he is no longer entitled to play, but threatening Hamill for uttering a few phrases and an occasional laugh? Just stupid.
GrandJediMaster7860 Corporations are what corporations do ;)
+Splatador These fucktards are obviously jealous of Mark Hamill just because he has a talent to mimic people's voices and to sound like the Joker.
I don't like it either, but I can understand the lawyerly mindset.
According to the law, if a company doesn't defend against every single infringement it knows about (and unauthorized public performance counts as an infringement), then that non-defense can be used as evidence of copyright/trademark abandonment in a later case. It probably wasn't Warners going "how dare he?!?" so much as "oh crap... we gotta send the letter or else some cocky lawyer down the line will find a way for this to snowball into us losing the rights to The Joker..."
Hearing Mark as Joker says, "It's no fun without Batman," is really sad now that Kevin Conroy has passed on. Rest in Peace Batman.
Thank you for the "Smile"... Hamill does have the Best "Joker Laugh"...
a pleasant day to you and yours...
ok thanks
Mark Hamill's version of The Joker is the way that I heard him speak when I read the comic books in the 1960s and the 1970s.
Why I love Mark Hamill's Joker is something that is multilayered. The articulation of organised chaos, simply as Joker is this unapologetic protagonist who wants to drive Batman insane and to his breaking point, but who never wants him dead, because it would end this macabre dance/extremely unhinged romance in Joker's mind. His laugh is the Joker personified in a sound - evil, maniacal, and seeing death and chaos as the punchline, but above it all, it is Mark Hamill showing with such enthusiasm, that he is as much a fan of the characters involved as he is an extremely talented and humble actor.
When they have redone animations of Joker, because Mark did something in the recording booth that they want articulated, nobody can match what he brings to the role. Deep inside, Mark remains a child at heart, and that child reading a Batman comic book comes through every time you hear Joker speak and laugh. As a true DC fan, I am eternally grateful for all he brings, as he surpassed all of our expectations, and gave it even more life and brightness.
Class act. He gave face and recognition to the others who played The Joker, but it's widely agreed that Hamill IS The Joker....
Mark Hamill is such an awesome guy can't help but love him lol
Really DC sent Mark Hamill a letter saying he can't do readings as the Joker if it's stuff from the shows or stuff? That seems like a dick move on DC's end.
Which owns DC...
BEYOND THE SPIDER FILMS How dare WB talk to Luke Skywalker that way! Fuuck them.
BeingHonest Well, I've never heard of anything about Disney doing that to Mark Hamill.
BeingHonest Umm... yeah in a way, he does. There's something called Star Wars which is owned by Disney. And last I checked he's in the next Star Wars film.
+BEYOND THE SPIDER FILMS That still makes it WB's decision not DC's
Imagine he was casted as Joker in Keaton's Batman.. ohh what a dream
Eddy Pallace C'mon, Nicholson had an amazing performance
I love that Phil Hartman is one of his idols. He was criminally underrated.
Anytime I think of the joker, I think of mark hamills version. Not Jack Nicholson, not Heath, no one else. Marks the best.
So do I heh heh heh😁😁
"Retired from the joker after Arkham City." LIES, ALL LIES.
Ikr he's in arkham knight now
***** No, it's definitely Hamill in Arkham Knight.
*****
No it's Hamill.
***** Troy Baker was in Arkham Origins. And interestingly, imitating Hamill quite well, exept his signature laughter. I think that Troy Baker was voicing a 20y younger version of Hamills Joker from Arkham universe and if he was voicing his own Joker without any baggage, he would take a different approach instead of just imitating Hamill.
dntm123 He acctualy retired, its (literally) a cameo by Joker in Arkham Knight. I read that this approach was interesting for him, he liked the script and felt that finishing Arkham trilogy like that would be much nicer . Also Kevin Conroy talked him to it. But Hamill stopped doing voice for Joker as a whole (no movies or tv shows). But you are right, because he did Arkham City after that, but I guess that he was not informed about its existence during that time he did this panel. Also Joker sells Batman games so they had to force him in somehow :D
No matter what happens in my opinion Mark Hamill Will always be the best joker voice😀
5:01 is where he lets it out.
Mark Hammil was the best Joker voice in animation!
Mark Hamill and James Arnold Taylor. From one memorable laugher to another it seems.
It's so silly to me in retrospect to think that there was even a chance that Hamill's Joker would be rejected in favor of Nicholson's. For me, there's no contest. I really like Nicholson's's Joker but Hamill's is much better. For me it's
1. Mark Hamill
2. Heath Ledger
3. Jack Nicholson
(Though I still consider it a tie for 3rd between Nicholson and Troy Baker).
The order of how good each persons portrayal of the joker is the exact same for me
I'd rate Jared Leto's performance as fairly solid and a bit more multidimensional than Heath Ledger's Joker.
When I first saw The Dark Knight, I was impressed by how good a job he did, but on subsequent viewings, I realized that the Heath Ledger Joker is just pure psychopath with no punchline at all. None of the sudden shifts from being your best friend to hurling you into a vat of acid. In the comics and animated series, The Joker was psychotic, but he could also charm someone instead of intimidating them and THAT is what made him so terrifying: you never really knew what he would do. Heath's take, while interesting at first, is nothing more than Tony Montana with bad clown makeup but with even less charm than Montana had.
People hate me for this, but over time I am less and less impressed with Heath's one dimensional Joker compared to Mark Hamill, Jack Nicholson, or Cesar Romero. Hell, Leto actually showed more dimensions than Ledger did in the nightclub scene. He started off as business-like and approachable before going full psycho while Ledger was stuck in psycho mode the whole time.
@RaderizDorret - I agree. Leto's Joker felt more in line with what Mark Hamill says about the character. He felt unpredictable. You got a pretty good idea that someone was going to get hurt, or die, with Ledger's Joker. With Leto, it seemed more ambiguous.
*****
I also kind of like the big-bling-street-thug image of The Joker. He's always been the guy who started off as a nobody but later on developed into THE powerhouse of the criminal world short of those like Lex Luthor (who is a pretty one-dimensional bad guy who still remains interesting because you never really know what his angle is though you know there always is an angle he's working).
Leto took heat for the writers wanting to make him more like a street hood who rose to prominence than a classical 30s era Made Man and I think that was actually a smart move. The Mafia is still one of the powerhouses in the criminal world, but they no longer are the biggest game in town to most people (just saying what I've observed, having grown up around Detroit which historically had a very strong Mafia presence but it's faded to the street gangs in prominence in most peoples' minds).
It's actually another layer to the unpredictability woven into his character. With the Mafia, they're largely focused on business and psychos are rooted out by the established Families sooner or later (usually by ambushing the bastard before he catches on), but with Street Gangs, you.really don't know what you'll get. On one hand, they are much more likely to be overtly violent but on the other they can also be more focused on business than the image of "keeping it real" (at least among the leadership. Both sides are VERY dangerous and are not to be approached lightly and without understanding (truly understanding) the consequences thereof, but the image of. Leto's Joker is an interesting and more modernized take on the Joker and how he got where he was. Instead of being an associate of Made Men who managed to beat them all, he's a two-bit flamboyant street thug who made it and no one fucks with him lightly. It's a very similar story, but exchange Mafia for street gang. It has this Saint's Row vibe to it that is fun to go with.
RaderizDorret Again, I have a similar view of the character. I will say that street gangs have become far more organized than they were in the past, but I think the Joker's role in the Gotham underworld would be a little different than he would in a real life setting. Gotham's underworld is terrorized by Batman, and the Joker is the guy who not only openly challenges him, but always has great fun doing so. That alone gives him street cred like you couldn't get anywhere else. More than a street thug, I'd think of him more like a criminal celebrity, sort of a Marilyn Manson of crime. lol
Omg the blue meanies from yellow submarine make so much sense, they’re all teeth too! Also yellow...
Lol he said he would retire after Arkham city but we see him in the Killing Joke
Also Arkham Knight
So happy he aknowledge Kevin Michael Richardson.
Odd connections in history: Because Mozart was a bit nerdy back in the day, we got Mark Hamill's joker.
Got to love history
I have to confess that Mark Hamill is one of the last actors I would expect to play the Joker. On the other hand, one of the hallmarks of a great actor is knowing how to both be a good guy and be a good bad guy.
I would like to mention. That his joker voice has changed over the years. It was I bit more high piched and clean in the first few seasons of the animated series. Then it got a little more raspy after the redesign. By the movie return of the joker in the flashback. Wich in my opinion is the best looking version of the animated series Joker, is the best sounding. Now it all sounds like the Arkham video games joker. I of course understand that Mark Hamill is not as young as he was when he did the voice in the animated series. But the Joker now. Is not the same sounding Joker that he was in the animated series. And even in batman beyond return of the joker. But Mark is still king when it comes to the Joker.
I agree with you. I prefer his Joker voice in the early seasons of BTAS and Phantasm. He had some of the best variation in his laugh during those seasons too. Ref. The Laughing Fish, Christmas With the Joker. I think there were a few in The New Adventures of Batman an Robin too.
" Without Batman Crime has no Punchline " Love it Love Mark Hamil as the Joker
Who is gonna do a better job then him when he Passes Away ? one day who's going to do the voice of the Joker when Mark Hamil Passes Away and do the famous lines
of the Joker ? particularly that Famous Line " Without Batman Crime has no Punchline " Gotta Love Mark Hamil.
“I DON’T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT I DID!!!”
Said every drunk on a monday morning while the police takes em away.
He's the best joker
Did everyone forget he also played the trickster in the flash in 1990 and also in the new cw flash series, I always thought he got the joker voice from there.
Ashutosh Mohapatra - The Trickster in The Flash!
That's a good catch!
🌟for you 👍
Also Hobgoblin in Spider-man the Animated Series
Hell always be the joker no matter what.
Just imagine if the Hamill's Joker knows the way of the Force...man, that would be epic.
On the little table is a Star Wars Coffee cup
God, I can't WAIT for the Killing Joke movie!
It's amazing that Mark is the greatest hero (Luke) AND the greatest villian (Joker) and a decent human, and eternal professional 👏
This man there is one of the True Living Legend ....🙏🙏🙏
Love that he said he retires a voice after Arkham city keeping the surprise up for Arkham night
Well he was supposed to be done after city but they coaxed him back and he has done the joker multiple times since city.
I think Mark Hamill should recreate this line form the Batman 1960s episode The Joker is Wild:
"And now, people of Gotham City, the moment you have all been waiting for. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! The grand finale! The climax of my performance! The zenith of my career! The unmasking of Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder!"
karl eichholtz - As a child, I watched the 1960's series, and I can clearly imagine Hamill saying that line, as well as Caesar Romero.
bring him back as the joker
Are you Jesus ?! 😭
wtf
Nick Ngo
Well.. are you Jesus!? He asked you a question! :p
Yea man lol he ask you a question. All you have to do is answer the damn questions cj!
what does this had to do with anything
They say that Mark Hamill is no longer the joker. NONSENSE! It's like saying Craig McCracken no longer is the creator of Powerpuff girls. Or that Elvis is no longer the king of rock. Or that Mako is no longer Iroh.
Mark Hamill brought more than just the voice to the character and that's something you cant copyright.
Technically, the King of Rock was Little Richard whereas Elvis was simply the King, but the point still stands.
@@michaeloconnor5904 “Elvis took my Tutti Frutti and I was disgusted.... BUT, by him singing it, he made it bigger and made ME bigger!“ Little Richard
There you have it. Elvis IS the King of Rock and Roll.
I love Mark Hamill, he is such a cool person.
WB why don't you want your fan base to feel nostalgia and excitement for your IP? Doesn't this only drive you Fans to go out and watch The Animated Series and movies, and play the Arkham games again? Doesn't this make you fan base eagerly anticipate what you will do next? Short sighted move WB, Mark Hamill will not have that voice forever, unfortunately you should let him give you all the free takes you can get.
timaahhh - BTW you know, the _real_ Joker would snicker at your comment because you said
" I pee". 😏
He is just so talented! Hope viewers realize... the last Jedi's flop isn't due to the actors. It's the crazy directors.
This is too awesome thank you for posting this video
Mark is equal parts fanboy and serious professional.
I didn't know he was involved in Amadeus!!
he was considered to be Mozart in the film
Oh, wow!
Oh my god... Why didn't I see this before! Luke Skywalker is the Joker!!!
Along with many other roles he's done a lot
]-)ΣΔ†]-[ By now, he is acctually more known for doing Joker, for past 20 years, than anything else. He was almost every Joker in almost every animated Batman movie/tv show.
His acting was okay as Luke. It's crazy that he got to this level
If Hamill never made another reference to DC, Batman or The Joker directly, could they legally stop him from making the voice? Do they literally have a copyright on the voice itself? Or is Hamill just not legally allowed to 'portray' The Joker, even unofficially? If he voiced a character on let's say, Family Guy, named Chuck who was in no way similar to the Joker, could Hamill as an artist still use the voice and not get sued?
That would be weird. Almost like NBC telling John Krasinski he couldn't ever look directly at a camera again, otherwise it's a "Jim face" and infringes on their copyrights, or like Disney suing Gilbert Gottfriend because he 'isn't Iago anymore'.
60% of his other TV roles are just other characters with a Joker voice
The best joker ever !😆😆😆😆😆
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I would've liked to see either Mark Hamill or Willem Dafoe in the Burton Batman.
Uh-uh. I remember very well how the "fans" turned into rage machines over Michael Keaton being cast as the Batman. Can you imagine their reaction fo Luke Skywalker being cast?
No way.
un gran actor
Beautiful
5:01... you welcome
Tidus and Joker at the same room
If Phil Hartman wasn't murdered, I wondered if he would've been casted as Ferris Boyle instead of Mark Hamill.
Retired from the role. Well that aged well back when Lego DC supervillains was released
It's BS how WB is doing this. But it will bite them on the ass once the Star Wars films come out. WB will be begging him to quote scenes from Batman. Mark Hamill will get paid for WB stupid decisions.
I Mark Hamill - l'm Arkham ill
I heard dee bradley baker laugh (when I saw ultimate Spider Man as carnage) it's sounds good but mark hamill can do it better, pretend carnage is voiced by mark hamill and think about it. OH... And another question which insane laugh is better Dee Bradley baker or mark hamill?
Is he wearing a hearing aid? I can't tell if it's part of the microphone.
I think it is.
It's a hearing aid.
+Ave Satanas Luciferian he's getting a bit older.
It’s part of the microphone. His hearing is perfectly fine.
Who cares about Luke Skywalker, everyone's more interested in the Joker.
I had trouble believing Mark was Joker in batman arkum asylum.he made the joker the best part ever done.Harley was just as good.he made me love Joker.
Funny, he doesn't mentions the character "The Trickster," from the 1990 TV show, "The Flash." I hear minimal difference, vocally, between the two.
Wow WB is so mean it's not like they played the animation of the original scene.
I'm loving the Trump tweets in the Joker's voice :)
God Bless Mark Hamill.
When mark speaks i can only hear the joker em i crazy?
for a full generation, Mark Hamill will always be the Joker. Jack Nicholson had the face, but Hamill had the voice. although, if he actually was allowed to play the Joker, i think that would have been the most watched movie ever, bc everyone would that loves his voice as Joker would finally get to see him act it out. dont get me wrong, Ledger did a good job, but we all know Hamill would have killed it, and box office numbers would have shown it. would be like the opposite of Puss in Boots, they were thinking, who best to voice a cat that is like Zoro, than Zoro himself? so they asked Banderas to voice it.
quite obvious why they dont want him doing the joker live^^
hes just too good and loves it too much, thats why "the people" will always love him best.
and troy baker is right out copying him^^
Ovegrow120 I think that Troy Baker is just forced to do a Hamill imitation, he would do it his own way if WB did not need a Hamill replacement. New actor should have a new Joker, but that did not happen.
+Jakub Matei Because once u had the best you expect the best. XD The Dc fans would have had a fit if the Joker stopped sounding like the Joker XD
Jakub Matei
well thats probably true- still i just dont like it. sure we can speculate, but the fact remains they more or less fired hamil and nobody is forcing an artist to do anything- especially if they are getting payed to do it.
i just dont like it, replacing someone like that- its wrong. were not talking about a product here but about artists and their work.
and sure work is great but on the other hand its kind of despisable to be the one replacing someone with their own routine- while the company even goes as far as screwing the fans by sending hamil a cease an desist notice, just because he and went and did a bit for them, shame on him he actually enjoys doing it,
thats not art- thats capitalism
and i dont think thats something a real artist should agree to do. then again a real artist is someone working as such so never mind me.
Troy Baker was awesome as Joker.Of course he copied Mark in Origins,The joker from origins is still the same joker from the other games.It wouldn't make sense if he sounded differently.
Send a cease and desist mark hamill is the joker!
Horrible audio, you can barely hear Mark, but all the ambient noise and children crying are louder than he is. And what is the damn crunching noise throughout?
THE LLIBERALS RAN THIS GUY INTO THE GROUND WITH THE AMOUNT OF FREE SPEECH BEING TAKEN AWAY IN OUR TIME
Why retire the role??
Wow.
WB sending a cease and desist letter to the guy who redefined the joker and made him what he is until this day.
That's low.
What
So Kevin really talked him into doing arkham knight?
What's next to his ear?
It's a microphone on a headpiece which helps to amplify his voice through speakers around the room. It's mainly for convenience so that he doesn't have to hold one for a long duration of time. Another alteration is where a microphone piece similar in size to the head piece microphone rests on the collar of a t-shirt which provides the same support.
If you are referring to his left ear, however, it appears to be a hearing aid. Mark Hamill is growing older now but his impressions and characters are still young and fresh!
Can’t hear anything!
I'd assume the whole "WB not wanting him to quote Joker things" has to do with Lucasfilm being owned by Disney, which is one of their biggest competitors. Conflict of interest
+OddJobKid99 why? Alot of the actors voice or othewise work for multiple companies. Marvell and Dc heroes have had the same voice actor. Besides which Mark Hamill can arguably be known more for the joker now then Luke Skywalker. Wouldnt it be better to see Luke Skywalker in the disney movie and think of the Joker Laugh and want to suddenly watch batman XD
To me mark Hamill will always be the joker..
The Joker himself.
Luke!
love em but this audio has way too much echo, and the quality sucks
WHY THEY DON'T GET HIM TO BE THE JOKER IN THE MOVIES...HE ACT AS LUKE SKYWALKER :V
Troy Baker is the only one even remotely near being as good as Mark and it's still no contest. Mark is the joker and always will be
I have an idea for Mark Hamill I know someone who can take Kevin Conroy place and help Mark Hamill Michael Keaton