Thanks for explaining about the engine! I was thinking it was just under 90hp if stock. I like how you 'rolled a little coal' there.... Thanks for the video!
4010 sounds good I have been batteling rust in my skid steer fuel tank its a ASVRC85.After replacing and rebuilding 2 injection pumps very expensive. I put a inline fuel filter between the tank and lift pump and havent had any problems knock on wood.When the filter stops up I replace it and always keep a few extras they are full of rust I had tanks cleaned twice and it still comes back,
Hay Steve, seems like just last summer! I remember your dad always liked to watch when I would run the pulling tractor up the driveway. Did you see how many views this video has got so far?
Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. My old 4010 gas is blowing by so bad I'm fouling out plugs every 4 hours or so use it as a loader jin tractor. Keep a set of sand blasted plugs in tool box. Love to swap out don't need that much horsepower for me
I love this stuff,.... year's ago my neighbor Erland Anderson.. had a 574 utility International.. that they reworked the motor in..aftermarket fuel pump and all (he was alway's tryin' to beat this old Co-op tractor.. flat head 6 cylinder.. at the county fair),... he had that 574 pushin' nearly 90 horse.. at the PTO,...2 set's of weight's.. and tire's full of fluid,... he'd have me hook up to a 14 foot Ford disk,... and take it down in the field by the state highway,... he'd say "make sure ya carry the wheel's",... and I would,.... should have seen some of the farmer's going by,... taking a "double take" on that.... it was pretty fun,.... it looked like a Cub Cadet pullin' a normal size disk,.... I'll never forget it,.... well,... they have "sleeper" car's...... they might as well have "sleeper" tractor's too,...... right...... we like it,..... take care........
Love the video, and the one from ‘88 too. Great seeing you in those formative years! Your comment section is as entertaining as it gets. Seems as though half of the folks either didn’t watch or listen to it. I’m 57, running a similar operation (minus the extra hp!) 720d, 3010, 4020 & 4240. Just making it happen! Thanks for sharing your content. Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
Thanks for the kind words Ted! I think you're right, some guys just click through the video waiting to see the tractor grunt and blow smoke pulling a huge piece of equipment and they miss all the fun.
I don't know about the fuel rusting the tank ,but I have found that the tractor setting in cold weather with low fuel in the tank allows condensation to cause rust. I have found it in motorcycles and small engines.
I had added my dad's 4020 on a post that on dino had 270 hp. He had done a lot of modifications to the tractor and is still able to farm with it. There were so many people saying it's not possible. It would rip the transmission or rear end out of it. But hasn't done either. Did burn through a couple clutches. But was his main power tractor since our farm was steep hilly land. Glad to see someone else saying it's possible to get this hp power out of these tractors and still able to farm with them. Some people on the post tried to explain it was very possible, since they also had tractors with close to same hp. But so many critics. My dad was a great diesel mechanic of JD tractors. But no convincing him.
Hey Holly, thanks for writing! Always fun to hear about other peoples' experiences, your dad sounds like someone I'd enjoy knowing. Check out some of my other videos of tractors we have worked on and dynoed.
Next time you have the hood off I'd like to have a peek at a few areas. I put one of these in a early 4020 diesel that tossed a rod. I wasn't able to fit the combine exhaust manifold under the hydraulic valves so I made it a non-turbo setup. Ended up backing off the fuel screw 3/4 turn or so to get rid of the excess smoke. The water pump/fan to radiator clearance was a head scratcher and on this one I had to have the lower radiator connection altered to miss the modified combine crank pulley. No dyno but power feels close to stock. No need for excess power here as the only thing this tractor does is run a Rowse double 9ft sickle mower.
Good looking 4010. I was thinking it was a 4430 engine but it is the same just out of a combine. Yes it definitely woke it up. I had a tricycle front 4020 diesel years ago and I put a wide front end on it and I sold it to a man with a disc like yours and a 4 bottom 1450 plow. It was an older model before the side console but it was turned up a little bit.
Thanks James, this is a very old farm with some smaller fields and a barnyard that was set up when they were farming with horses, so it's easier to manuver around with a narrow front tractor.
We have a 2255 we used to pull had turbo off a 3406 on it and we took the fuel screw out when we pulled but it ran about 400 to 450 HP and mom loved raking hay with it lol
Some where I saw that a feller was converting 3010s-20s & 4010s-4020s gas engines to port fuel injection. Somewhere in Illinois I think! But that was a few years ago…
Bill -- I am sure you already know this, but they make additives to add to the fuel tank that removes water. Just google "fuel additive to remove water from diesel" to see the different brands. Your 4010 is a neat tractor. Not sure you could utilize all it's power though due to the tractor's weight & build not being heavy enough to get the traction needed to pull large equipment. So it's kind of a "Catch -22" situation.
Thanks. Yeah, knowing something and taking time to do something are 2 different things. As for the 4010, we don't have any big equipment anyway, don't farm enough acres to need it, so we'er happy just to idle along pulling what we have with ease.
MD. Dirt Farmer, what year was your John Deere made.? Also no protection from the dust and heat, makes it for a tough day in the field. Like your laid back commentary.
It's a 1961 John Deere 4010, the engine is from a late '70s combine. As far as the dust and heat, I'm used to that, sometimes in the summer I have to take a shower almost every day. LOL
Yeah, it's basically the same as a 4430 engine turned way up. Won't be at Gladhills, we're working hard getting ready to go to the Classic Green Reunion in Tenn. next weekend. Taking the "Ether Eater" down there to display.
@@miraclefarmer6530 Yeah, we will be glad to help you get the right turbo, and help you get the fuel you need. You could get pretty close to 200 HP easy.
Hey Tony! Since l don't put the tractor under really heavy loads but just pull equipment designed for that size tractor, it doesn't cause any extra wear on the drive train. Thanks for your interest.🤠
@@roberttammerawitchey4652 It's got a 4430 type manifold, so I removed the bottom valve. I wasn't going to be needing it for what I was using the tractor for anyway. Thanks for the interest.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 cool. yeah, my plans are to mount a remote dual or triple valve on the fender anyway. I drive left handed, and might as well do all the lever action with my right.
It's a 404 cubic inch turbo 7700 combine engine , you can get 250 hp just by adjusting the timing and turning up the fuel delivery. We also put a higher flow air filter on it, and a slightly different turbocharger.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 you have a Dyno, but you don't know how to use it. A 404 and an A pump doesn't equal 240 unless the pump was sent off and hot rodded.
I'll give you a couple examples: We recently tuned a customers 4430 to do a tractor pull, tired engine, very worn original stock turbo, stock pump and injectors, between 240-250 hp on the dyno. We built a 4010 like mine for another customer the PTO clutch wouldn't hold, started slipping at 230 hp and wasn't putting a load on it yet. When we fix the PTO clutch and dyno it again, we'll put the video up.
We shimmed up the springs in the clutch, the rest of the drivetrain is a great design and high quality materials, besides I'm not putting a huge load on it.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 , I had a 34 and sol it. A neighbor had this 33 in fair condition that we used to haul lawn clippings. I had an H JD spreader( ground drive) that I sold and kept this 33 to haul horse manure spring and fall. Everything works as it should on it. One of my 520’s has been on this farm since 1958. The other one joined us in 1969. Both are in really good shape and I used them both yesterday. They still very much earn their keep here.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 , a radio station here in Iowa is hosting a tractorcade starting tomorrow. I will be taking some video to post up on my channel after bit. There will be some nice old iron there. 500 entries
Did you watch the video? It's powered by a turbo diesel engine that when turned up all the way develops right around 250 HP. I'm sorry if l didn't explain it clearly in the video.
A Paul Harvey quote, " Having more horse power than a road allows is like having the Moron Tabernacle Choir sing at a Bar mitzvah. Ridiculously obsurd.
I don’t see how it’s possible to get three times the horsepower out of that tractor without destroying the transmission or the engine. I know you can do it but the farm with it yeah I don’t know.
Hey David, thanks for your comment. The original gas engine spun bearings and l had this engine just sitting so in it went. Why turn it up? 'cause l can, it's fun, we'll take it to the pull, it burns hardly any fuel idling along, and it's cool. That's the use.
Just stumble upon this on UA-cam and what you did to that 4010 tractor engine.. NOW you know what it's like to Own a International Harvester tractor right out of the factory 😊
Not quite. l was going to give a smart aleck comeback but l'll just let it go. We did a turbo installation on an 806 lH for a customer, after operating that IH for a short while to test it out, I will say l gained a healthy respect for the farmers who had to suffer running them all day, it was a real physical workout compared to the ease of farming with the much more refined Deere. Just speaking honestly.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 yes and 806 I will agree John Deere had a better platform to sit on and all of that stuff but 856 was much better wider platform the clutch pedals and brake pedals were more ergonomic for your feet to operate the shifting with a lot easier and of course I had to 407 engine which even had more power!.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 also I did run John Deere's for other farmers including a 720 which is a joke with all them levers and vibrating! I'll 4020 powershift which was nice especially with the foot throttle cuz e'zs off the foot throttle when you shift it and just like a truck you shift and then the 4440 I also ran with a quad range transmission and they always said they're fully synchronized and they weren't only between 2nd and 3rd gear was synchronized cuz ABC and d were not synchronize But when it comes to stock power 856 will walk all over the 4020 My dad bought his eat 56 brand-new in 1968 and three different Farmers come to try his tractor out before they bought a 4020 and they switch to the 856 and one of them bought a 966
Thanks for explaining about the engine! I was thinking it was just under 90hp if stock. I like how you 'rolled a little coal' there.... Thanks for the video!
Glad you are enjoying my videos!
4010 sounds good I have been batteling rust in my skid steer fuel tank its a ASVRC85.After replacing and rebuilding 2 injection pumps very expensive. I put a inline fuel filter between the tank and lift pump and havent had any problems knock on wood.When the filter stops up I replace it and always keep a few extras they are full of rust I had tanks cleaned twice and it still comes back,
A tractor is a lot more fun to do field work with if it has three times the designed horsepower to play with.
Which engine is in it
Hay Bill, We used to race our bike cycle down that lane that fast too.
The BEST part of the video watching you race down the lane. WHAT A BLAST!
Hay Steve, seems like just last summer! I remember your dad always liked to watch when I would run the pulling tractor up the driveway. Did you see how many views this video has got so far?
You didn't tell me what you think of my carpentering skills in my Chicken house restoration videos.
Enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing. My old 4010 gas is blowing by so bad I'm fouling out plugs every 4 hours or so use it as a loader jin tractor. Keep a set of sand blasted plugs in tool box. Love to swap out don't need that much horsepower for me
You don't need to turn it up like we did, you can run at about 130hp. no problem.
Thanks for making my groceries, sir.
I love this stuff,.... year's ago my neighbor Erland Anderson.. had a 574 utility International.. that they reworked the motor in..aftermarket fuel pump and all (he was alway's tryin' to beat this old Co-op tractor.. flat head 6 cylinder.. at the county fair),... he had that 574 pushin' nearly 90 horse.. at the PTO,...2 set's of weight's.. and tire's full of fluid,... he'd have me hook up to a 14 foot Ford disk,... and take it down in the field by the state highway,... he'd say "make sure ya carry the wheel's",... and I would,.... should have seen some of the farmer's going by,... taking a "double take" on that.... it was pretty fun,.... it looked like a Cub Cadet pullin' a normal size disk,.... I'll never forget it,.... well,... they have "sleeper" car's...... they might as well have "sleeper" tractor's too,...... right...... we like it,..... take care........
Thanks for the comment, great story!
Love the video, and the one from ‘88 too. Great seeing you in those formative years!
Your comment section is as entertaining as it gets. Seems as though half of the folks either didn’t watch or listen to it.
I’m 57, running a similar operation (minus the extra hp!) 720d, 3010, 4020 & 4240.
Just making it happen!
Thanks for sharing your content.
Bless’ns to ya, Tedd
Thanks for the kind words Ted! I think you're right, some guys just click through the video waiting to see the tractor grunt and blow smoke pulling a huge piece of equipment and they miss all the fun.
Sir let me buy that 4010, it would do great in our 9500 turbo class here in pa.
Your right about the diesel we used to run these tractors on a lubricant now the fuel is a solvent.
Great way to put it !
It will dry your hands out like one!
@@jeffstrains4014kinda like the ethanol gas we have now, Ilit never dried your hands out until they put ethanol in it.
I don't know about the fuel rusting the tank ,but I have found that the tractor setting in cold weather with low fuel in the tank allows condensation to cause rust. I have found it in motorcycles and small engines.
Thanks for your thoughts William.
The ultra low sulfur fuel washes the fuel staining out of the tank, leaving the bare metal to rust with condensation. And plugging filters.
I had added my dad's 4020 on a post that on dino had 270 hp. He had done a lot of modifications to the tractor and is still able to farm with it. There were so many people saying it's not possible. It would rip the transmission or rear end out of it. But hasn't done either. Did burn through a couple clutches. But was his main power tractor since our farm was steep hilly land. Glad to see someone else saying it's possible to get this hp power out of these tractors and still able to farm with them. Some people on the post tried to explain it was very possible, since they also had tractors with close to same hp. But so many critics. My dad was a great diesel mechanic of JD tractors. But no convincing him.
Hey Holly, thanks for writing! Always fun to hear about other peoples' experiences, your dad sounds like someone I'd enjoy knowing. Check out some of my other videos of tractors we have worked on and dynoed.
Totally awesome video
Thank you Scott! Check out my other videos. You may also like our other channel: So. Md. Maniacs
You are pushing it sir and I love it!!
Next time you have the hood off I'd like to have a peek at a few areas. I put one of these in a early 4020 diesel that tossed a rod. I wasn't able to fit the combine exhaust manifold under the hydraulic valves so I made it a non-turbo setup. Ended up backing off the fuel screw 3/4 turn or so to get rid of the excess smoke. The water pump/fan to radiator clearance was a head scratcher and on this one I had to have the lower radiator connection altered to miss the modified combine crank pulley. No dyno but power feels close to stock. No need for excess power here as the only thing this tractor does is run a Rowse double 9ft sickle mower.
Yeah, it was a tight squeeze, had to "scootch" a lot of things.
Sounds like a beast
You can put a 2 inch long and 1/4 diameter pipe that goes inside the tank to keep the rust at bay.
Good tip, I've done that on a couple of my tractors.
Man you are a character! Cool video and even cooler rig!
Thanks WT, or can I call you Fletch? To be on the safe side, Mr. Fletcher, check out my other videos, it looks like you have a cool channel!
Now that's A 4010. Sounds like a 4430 or 4440 at start up.
Looks like a 466 motor !!!
Always love 4010 diesel grew up on one all through my childhood would love to own a number one but hard to find
Beautiful Tractor!
Good looking 4010. I was thinking it was a 4430 engine but it is the same just out of a combine. Yes it definitely woke it up. I had a tricycle front 4020 diesel years ago and I put a wide front end on it and I sold it to a man with a disc like yours and a 4 bottom 1450 plow. It was an older model before the side console but it was turned up a little bit.
Thanks for the comment Nathan, lt's always interesting to hear other folks thoughts and experiences.
@@so.md.maniacs1403 we can learn a lot from each other through their experiences. Take care and stay safe out there in the heat.
New sub here like the old iron an seeing them run god bless from Texas
Welcome Ole Tractor Mike, hope you enjoy my other videos.
We own old red equipment but that green one sounds real godd
It's Juiced! 👏👏😎
We had a 4010 with 130 up and thought it was a beast.
Looks runs works GREAT !!!! What more can you ask for !!??!!!
You got the life Brother.
I’m still working with a 4020 gas powered. Keep the work up!!
Hey William! A gas 4020 is still a great tractor, my 4010 started out as a gasser. Thanks for watching and commenting.
nice work
Thanks, it's a blast to run.
Nice tractor
Done quite a bit of disking with a John Deere B an boy she would just be barking all day, it was great
That thing hauls a-- up the road! Dang! Lol😂 sounds great too!
Thanks Chris! I hope you enjoy my other videos too.
I would have left original. Did alot of tilling back in the 70s for the neighbor, with a 4020. Never grunted! Nice video 📹! Wisconsin cheese 🧀 head 👌
Thanks for your thoughts. We have a very early 4010 that we are going to restore and keep original.
OH SHE Sounds "BEASTLY"
U must "Like" the Narrow Front! 😊
Thanks James, this is a very old farm with some smaller fields and a barnyard that was set up when they were farming with horses, so it's easier to manuver around with a narrow front tractor.
Yepp... Born and raised on a dairy in VT..
Sounds like a 4440!
We have a 2255 we used to pull had turbo off a 3406 on it and we took the fuel screw out when we pulled but it ran about 400 to 450 HP and mom loved raking hay with it lol
Nice tractor!!!
Some where I saw that a feller was converting 3010s-20s & 4010s-4020s gas engines to port fuel injection. Somewhere in Illinois I think! But that was a few years ago…
Yeah, I saw that too... really seemed to wake them up.
Guy says 250 horsepower and the doubters and haters roll in like it’s free hotdog night at the truckstop.
HaHa, very well said!
Boy that Deere sure sounds mean I like it!
Nice!
Bill -- I am sure you already know this, but they make additives to add to the fuel tank that removes water. Just google "fuel additive to remove water from diesel" to see the different brands. Your 4010 is a neat tractor. Not sure you could utilize all it's power though due to the tractor's weight & build not being heavy enough to get the traction needed to pull large equipment. So it's kind of a "Catch -22" situation.
Thanks. Yeah, knowing something and taking time to do something are 2 different things. As for the 4010, we don't have any big equipment anyway, don't farm enough acres to need it, so we'er happy just to idle along pulling what we have with ease.
Nice conversion friend I like the how it sounds at startup just like my 4440 I guess that’s something to do with P-Series pump on their ?
It's pump timing and the fuel delivery.
That bugger scoots down the road.
MD. Dirt Farmer, what year was your John Deere made.? Also no protection from the dust and heat, makes it for a tough day in the field. Like your laid back commentary.
It's a 1961 John Deere 4010, the engine is from a late '70s combine. As far as the dust and heat, I'm used to that, sometimes in the summer I have to take a shower almost every day. LOL
like to see pull 5 or 6 16 bottom plowes
Yup,,maniac tendencies. Lol. Took the cetane right out of the diesel.
What did you do to get you engine to 250 horsepower?
Just turned up the fuel screw.😁
Old girl runs good would that be close to a 4430 engine. Are guys coming up to Gladhill tomorrow?
Yeah, it's basically the same as a 4430 engine turned way up. Won't be at Gladhills, we're working hard getting ready to go to the Classic Green Reunion in Tenn. next weekend. Taking the "Ether Eater" down there to display.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 well have fun down there.
what kind of turbo
There is a Schwitzer on it right now, got a larger Air Research we put on when we were pulling with it.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 o ok im the one with the 2640 and im wandering if i should chang the turbo
@@miraclefarmer6530 Yeah, we will be glad to help you get the right turbo, and help you get the fuel you need. You could get pretty close to 200 HP easy.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 how would be a good way to contact you
How does the ring and pinion and the spider gears hold up with that much power
Hey Tony! Since l don't put the tractor under really heavy loads but just pull equipment designed for that size tractor, it doesn't cause any extra wear on the drive train. Thanks for your interest.🤠
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 Exactly- unless you put a 26 foot disc
@@roberttammerawitchey4652 It's got a 4430 type manifold, so I removed the bottom valve. I wasn't going to be needing it for what I was using the tractor for anyway. Thanks for the interest.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 cool. yeah, my plans are to mount a remote dual or triple valve on the fender anyway. I drive left handed, and might as well do all the lever action with my right.
@@roberttammerawitchey4652 👍
4010 on the outside. Something way bigger on the inside.
how do you get 250 hp out of that mtr
It's a 404 cubic inch turbo 7700 combine engine , you can get 250 hp just by adjusting the timing and turning up the fuel delivery. We also put a higher flow air filter on it, and a slightly different turbocharger.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 that's a dream. A 404 wouldn't make that power with an A pump
@@RJ1999x We have a dyno, so we know.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 you have a Dyno, but you don't know how to use it. A 404 and an A pump doesn't equal 240 unless the pump was sent off and hot rodded.
I'll give you a couple examples: We recently tuned a customers 4430 to do a tractor pull, tired engine, very worn original stock turbo, stock pump and injectors, between 240-250 hp on the dyno. We built a 4010 like mine for another customer the PTO clutch wouldn't hold,
started slipping at 230 hp and wasn't putting a load on it yet. When we fix the PTO clutch and dyno it again, we'll put the video up.
Looks like your a little dry there Farmer!
Yeah, a shower would be nice.
Am surprised that the clutch and transmission can take all that power through presumeably otherwise standard components
We shimmed up the springs in the clutch, the rest of the drivetrain is a great design and high quality materials, besides I'm not putting a huge load on it.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 just beware that transmission has 1 little woodruff key on the input/top shaft that is sure to fail if you over do it.
New subscriber here. That thing is crazy powerful.
Is that an old 33 JD spreader? I have one of those too.
I have 2 1958 520’s also.
Welcome Gary! I think it's a 34 spreader. Our 520 is a member of the family.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 , I had a 34 and sol it. A neighbor had this 33 in fair condition that we used to haul lawn clippings.
I had an H JD spreader( ground drive) that I sold and kept this 33 to haul horse manure spring and fall. Everything works as it should on it.
One of my 520’s has been on this farm since 1958. The other one joined us in 1969. Both are in really good shape and I used them both yesterday. They still very much earn their keep here.
@@tractortalkwithgary1271 It's good to hear about old iron still being used.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 , a radio station here in Iowa is hosting a tractorcade starting tomorrow. I will be taking some video to post up on my channel after bit. There will be some nice old iron there. 500 entries
@@tractortalkwithgary1271 Thanks for the heads up.
1300rpm? I think not. Thats like 1/2 throttle. I'm guessing 2000
Look at the tach. at 1:33 in the video.
how on earth do you figure a 4010 has 250hp?
Did you watch the video? It's powered by a turbo diesel engine that when turned up all the way develops right around 250 HP. I'm sorry if l didn't explain it clearly in the video.
That is a 240 hp tractor
A Paul Harvey quote, " Having more horse power than a road allows is like having the Moron Tabernacle Choir sing at a Bar mitzvah. Ridiculously obsurd.
Luckily my road allows unlimited horsepower!
Guy quotes Paul Harvey. 🤷🏼♂️😂
4010 came out with about 82 HP. That tractor has no weights. It would spin out before it pulled the hat off your head.
If he was pulling a 21 ft disc it would prob overheat
l couldn't turn a 21 foot disk around in some of my fields. lt works out great with the equipment l've got just to idle along.😁
I don’t see how it’s possible to get three times the horsepower out of that tractor without destroying the transmission or the engine. I know you can do it but the farm with it yeah I don’t know.
Hey Kenneth! I'm definitely not using all that power, throttling back, gearing up, and just running it easy.
A 4010 only has 90 hp .
It's not a 4010 motor
Yea it doesn't sound like any 4010's or 20's I've been around
If ya can't tell, he has worked his turbo tuning magic.
What's the US if all you pull is a 12 ft disk at 3.5 mph
Hey David, thanks for your comment. The original gas engine spun bearings and l had this engine just sitting so in it went. Why turn it up? 'cause l can, it's fun, we'll take it to the pull, it burns hardly any fuel idling along, and it's cool. That's the use.
Like you didn’t listen to the video at all. 🤷🏼♂️
Speed isn't everything. Pulling a disk too fast can cause hilling, uneven ground. Use the equipment the way it was designed.
A 4010 is not 250 HP duhh
I can care less about what you get from tunning different things on the motor, anyone can do that. I want what the factory say's.
It’s not a 4010 engine
So you like what you like? Good. Glad that works for YOU
@@tennesseesawmillguy1590 should've stayed that in the beginning
Just stumble upon this on UA-cam and what you did to that 4010 tractor engine..
NOW you know what it's like to Own a International Harvester tractor right out of the factory 😊
Not quite. l was going to give a smart aleck comeback but l'll just let it go. We did a turbo installation on an 806 lH for a customer, after operating that IH for a short while to test it out, I will say l gained a healthy respect for the farmers who had to suffer running them all day, it was a real physical workout compared to the ease of farming with the much more refined Deere. Just speaking honestly.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 yes and 806 I will agree John Deere had a better platform to sit on and all of that stuff but 856 was much better wider platform the clutch pedals and brake pedals were more ergonomic for your feet to operate the shifting with a lot easier and of course I had to 407 engine which even had more power!.
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226 also I did run John Deere's for other farmers including a 720 which is a joke with all them levers and vibrating! I'll 4020 powershift which was nice especially with the foot throttle cuz e'zs off the foot throttle when you shift it and just like a truck you shift and then the 4440 I also ran with a quad range transmission and they always said they're fully synchronized and they weren't only between 2nd and 3rd gear was synchronized cuz ABC and d were not synchronize
But when it comes to stock power 856 will walk all over the 4020
My dad bought his eat 56 brand-new in 1968 and three different Farmers come to try his tractor out before they bought a 4020 and they switch to the 856 and one of them bought a 966
@@so.md.dirtfarmer2226vague 56 is still used today on the home farm that my brother runs with 20,000 h on it and has never missed a beat
@@jamesciolkosz8827 It's all what you're used to, and personal preference. Thanks for your thoughts.
Tractor sounds great. Are you farming in Amish County in Southern Maryland?
Hey Eric! The Amish are a couple counties away from where we are.