Persona 5 Min Maxing Guide - How to Make the Perfect Persona

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  • This is a Persona 5 guide on how to level up the perfect personas through gallows fusion. It is a long and boring process and you will also spend millions of money; the difference between an optimized persona and a normal one won’t be huge, so you can just play normally if you don’t want to commit too much time.
    Using this method, you can basically turn every persona into the "best persona".
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    TL;DW
    All Personas have the same total stats (Formula: Total Points = Level x 3 + 7) and at level 99, all personas have 304 points in their stats. Maximum stat is 99, BUT there are two equipments you can get for MC that increase your total stats by +5. One is the gun you get by itemising Metatron (Justice MAX Confidant) and the other is an accessory you get by itemising Crystal Skull (level 50 treasure demon), so if you want to use these two items you have to stop at 89 stats to be more efficient.
    Stats growth is random, but it’s possible to manipulate it through gallows fusion. This is the main reason why I don’t recommend using personas that are naturally at a very high level as damage dealers, as stats are usually equally distributed when you summon a persona and they are near the level cap so you wouldn’t be able to optimize their stats.
    As you do a gallows fusion, you will notice that in the confirmation screen some stats are highlighted (yellow). Those are the stats that will increase when you press confirm.
    You can keep exiting and re-entering this results screen and each time the highlighted stats will be different.
    You usually can’t perform more than one gallows strengthening on one Persona per day, but you can register the Persona after levelling up and then delete it from the Persona menu (triangle, then persona). Then you can summon the persona again to perform another gallows strengthening
    If you want to min-max, it’s suggested that you start with low level fodder so that you don’t do too many levels at the same time. You get 3 points per level, so levelling up too much would spread many points among 5 stats so it would take a lot of exiting and re-entering the results screen to get what you want.
    I suggest summoning personas with skills you want to inherit and using them as fodder, as you inherit one skill each time you do a gallows (beware of restrictions, apparently not every persona can learn every skill or at least I wasn’t able to inherit some physical skills such as God Hand on Arsene)
    If you want to save money and go faster, level up with Treasure Demons. Start with low level treasure demons so that you don’t do too many levels at the beginning.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 581

  • @SephiZack
    @SephiZack  7 років тому +178

    Thank you for the comments! Trying to respond to as many comments as possible is becoming more and more difficult each video. On one hand, I am very happy that so many people are enjoying my content; on the other hand, I feel sorry that I miss some comments (youtube stopped giving me notifications for half of the comments). If I don't respond to your comment, it is probably because UA-cam hasn't notified me, sorry for that!

    • @gokunorris5351
      @gokunorris5351 7 років тому +1

      Hey can you do what is the best line up team for personas? Like I just finished the 3 palace and i want to find out what kind of perona's, for example, persona's high in fire,ice,thunder, ailment, gun resistance should i use for rest of the game. I know its not like pokemon where you can build teams to fit your playstyle, but i think it would be cool to see some team building videos

    • @3heads0thoughts
      @3heads0thoughts 7 років тому +5

      Some tips:
      - Your allies all get specific buffs/debuffs. Try and learn what they specialize in, and have at least one persona that covers their buff gaps.
      - You will want to keep the Protagonist as a Curse user. Giving him Bless is good too. This is mostly because you don't get the sole Curse/Bless party member until very late in the game.
      - Again, knowing your allies' magic types and building around that is optimal. If you're fielding Morgana, you may not need a Wind user, but you might want to have a defense against Electric.
      There are no "best personas" - as this video shows, the higher a persona's level, the less likely you are to be able to minmax its stats. However, with that said, try and find personas that match your general playstyle. Here are a few things I like to do:
      - Turn off Persona Memory, and put all of the Auto-Ma[buff]s on one persona. Set that persona to your main persona. Persona Memory remembers the persona you equipped during battle. Turning it off means that you can create a persona that essentially auto-Heat Risers your entire party for free!
      - There's only one revive-and-massheal character in this game, so don't skimp on healing spells on the protagonist. He's going to end up being the only source for some of the important ones.
      - Make sure you get Spell and Attack Master. They are very important.

    • @ragnakero
      @ragnakero 7 років тому

      Personally I wouldn't have a persona with so low Luck unless you put Unshaken Will !
      After all Luck is Ailments & Instant Death Resistances.
      Attack Master is arguable since you will use Mediarahan/Salvation at end game.

    • @berserkerchannel6238
      @berserkerchannel6238 3 роки тому

      Bro thank you for your guide!!!

    • @davidlilley2736
      @davidlilley2736 3 роки тому

      Getting max Street would that help greatly on sertaon bosses on merciless I made it just but I would have been so much easier if I had worked on them huh yalbadoth was the certain boss I was speaking of well I'm done with merciless mode finally hell of adventure I'm not prooveing much doing it except how much I like pain my joints ache just like after the extra boss next time ill have the orb I might use it wonder if that helps against the charged attack it seems weaker if less at.s are up so how do I max life if posable with out cheating and willit feel like cheating I guess that attack will kill on any mode unless sabotaged I don't know though I will find out thank to your other vids I will use paradise lost I wanted to face him at an unfair disadvantage no special weapons even though I have some ready for me 3rd play through

  • @aznpanda510x
    @aznpanda510x 7 років тому +1659

    Atlus threw away Arsene like a used condom. Before i can even get attach to him. They want me to fuse him with my high elf.

    • @TheBoltokPriest
      @TheBoltokPriest 7 років тому +397

      aznpanda510x I know right?! That was so frustrating. I immediately resummoned him only to find out he stops getting skills 6 levels later. Such nonsense. Arsene should've been able to keep getting skills like the companion Personas... But that's okay. I fully intend to give him the love he deserve on my next playthrough. I intend to make him an absolute Monster worthy of the fear everyone showed when he was first awakening.

    • @aznpanda510x
      @aznpanda510x 7 років тому +146

      LMAO SAME!!!! AFter i got him past lvl 6.... i was like WTF IS THS BULLSHIT. I wanted him to have a 2nd stage. I KNOW there that "dude" at the end but to me. That a whole new persona. Not Arsene, i thought the "2nd" time we see him. He will join back my party and have new skill. NOPE he just want to talk to me.

    • @TheBoltokPriest
      @TheBoltokPriest 7 років тому +54

      aznpanda510x Seriously! Don't get me wrong, the final Persona was fucking badass. But he's essentially I plot device more than a Persona. I know you can fuse him in NG+, but he's basically a separate entity to Arsene in my opinion, regardless of his story relationship to Arsene. I feel like Arsene was more of a symbol instead of a viable option. There's little incentive to keep him around. Hell, they actively push you to, as you stated, "Chuck him in the trash like a used condom." Which isn't even remotely an exaggeration. It's just disappointing.
      *Warning - Spoiler Alert Ahead*
      I'm gonna research some good builds and make him a fearsome entity worthy of being the Advent of Satanael. That was such a badass cutscenes and it really got undermined by the fact that Arsene and Satanael couldn't be further apart in power. Not to mention he comes out of nowhere considering you Guillotine him 15 minutes in and his only role after is Mister Exposition.

    • @aznpanda510x
      @aznpanda510x 7 років тому +7

      Yeah, you can get that perfect stats, The final persona only had 1 skill that good but his stats was fucked up

    • @TheBoltokPriest
      @TheBoltokPriest 7 років тому

      aznpanda510x Is that Riot Gun? I haven't made him yet because of how expensive high end fusions can be. I take it that's how you get Riot Gun as a skill card to teach other Personas? That seems to be a popular one for Arsene.

  • @YaminoKaze
    @YaminoKaze 7 років тому +725

    Word of warning: mute your TV when you're doing this, if you value your sanity. I swear, if I hear "What are you waiting for?" one more time...

    • @AwashimaSeriLieutenant
      @AwashimaSeriLieutenant 6 років тому +192

      "this pers..." "you want this perso" "such rudeness"

    • @theslycooperfan
      @theslycooperfan 6 років тому +27

      Just do what you're gonna do. What are you waiting for? Do it

    • @user04683
      @user04683 5 років тому +8

      YaminoKaze Show respect inmate!!!!

    • @holycowrap
      @holycowrap 5 років тому +10

      Then accept this Persona

    • @Tamo66_
      @Tamo66_ 5 років тому +6

      Hmmmmmmmm. That will do

  • @AxelValentineTV
    @AxelValentineTV 7 років тому +494

    When I told my friend that I was going to do an Arsene only run, he asked me if I hated myself

    • @logan-ft5je
      @logan-ft5je 7 років тому +55

      naothoe slap all of the skill cards for the skill card set onto him and he becomes an amazing persona

    • @thestrawberryshogun8373
      @thestrawberryshogun8373 7 років тому +18

      naothoe I hope you’ll at least use other personas to level social links

    • @renamamiya5115
      @renamamiya5115 6 років тому +20

      I actually made the very same to Arsene but had Black Viper and Vorpal Blade til I got to Shido's palace (Str En Agi) now Im goin to do the same again on my PS3 version P5 (since I cant use my online storage or I'll get an error bout not having the DLCs 😑 I hate that bout the game..)

    • @Ampharosite
      @Ampharosite 5 років тому +9

      I did an Arsene-only run after 100%'ing my initial run, and I have to say the only bits that gave me trouble was Madarame's palace and Okumura's palace. At the time of Madarame's palace, enemies are getting tougher yet Arsene can't learn new skills at that point. The boss battle against Shadow Madarame is also a bit of a nightmare. Meanwhile, Okumura's palace had a lot of physical-resistant enemies which meant SP was guzzled a lot, but it was the same in my regular run.
      For reference, I started the run on a fresh save file (for extra challenge) and went for an Almighty build with Null Bless, Null Ice, Reflect Phys, and Makougaon for coverage. Can't remember every skill I had though, haha.

    • @centphilipjumawan4560
      @centphilipjumawan4560 5 років тому +2

      naothoe your picture perfectly describes it

  • @Pommypocket
    @Pommypocket 7 років тому +300

    The "feel free to leave a dislike" really tickled me.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +30

      Sorry for that D:

  • @jamesfromthecomputer
    @jamesfromthecomputer 7 років тому +937

    "X
    NOPE, CIRCLE
    X
    NOPE, CIRCLE
    X
    NOPE, CIRCLE
    X
    NOPE, CIRCLE
    WAIT IT WAS THE STATS I WANTED
    UGH
    X"
    - doing stat growth in Persona

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +68

      I know that feel

    • @theflaminghero458
      @theflaminghero458 7 років тому +16

      Sir Teddy Fortesque I was just thinking of that- never forget the hours wasted trying to get decent skills

    • @shadowagent7361
      @shadowagent7361 7 років тому

      The FlamingHero45 I love the previous games,especially 3,bot god damn after playing this and Devil Survivor, I dread the skill roulette

    • @FistShowEnjoyer
      @FistShowEnjoyer 7 років тому +7

      these privileged people who have only played persona 5 and don't understand the true horror and pain of having to x+circle for the skills you want
      stuff like nocturne still gives me nightmares man

    • @gamerprince-tl5hg
      @gamerprince-tl5hg 6 років тому

      I didn't even know this game did that with Strengthening personas...

  • @megaboom1000
    @megaboom1000 7 років тому +840

    When Persona becomes into competitive pokemon xDDD

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +190

      Competitive Persona would be Almighty-fest as everyone becomes immune to everything xD

    • @megaboom1000
      @megaboom1000 7 років тому +77

      SephiZack im pretty sure if pierce was in this game Yoshitsune would be banned in the competitive scene xD

    • @idonotmakevidsyet
      @idonotmakevidsyet 6 років тому +4

      Hito yoshitsune can be fucked by gun attacks

    • @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97
      @Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97 6 років тому +4

      It's just existential Pokemon.

    • @multimang0steen
      @multimang0steen 5 років тому +1

      Nearest for competitive PVP will be on SMT DX2

  • @roxylalondes
    @roxylalondes 7 років тому +453

    The terrible part about this: hearing Caroline and Justine repeat the same things over and over. I'm going crazy

    • @astersonofdio6264
      @astersonofdio6264 6 років тому +4

      HipsterAnimeLover2000 it's not his fault. His actions are all thise of JUSTICE

    • @jakerobertventura5546
      @jakerobertventura5546 5 років тому +34

      "Such rudeness"

    • @iloveemiliaandrem9443
      @iloveemiliaandrem9443 5 років тому +1

      I made yoshitsune's strength stat 99 it took me 4 hours.

    • @pudimy
      @pudimy 5 років тому +2

      @@cafeledavid Caroline, you handle this

    • @killerg4402
      @killerg4402 5 років тому +1

      IloveEmilia andRem My opinion is that Prioritising two stats is easier/quicker then focusing on 1 because 1 will make you lose your sanity and those moments when your so used to press X and O you accidentally cancel the 1 stat you wanted, every time that happens it completely shatters my mind

  • @1stCMcook
    @1stCMcook 7 років тому +192

    You're the first person I've hear say at the end. "If you didn't like this, make sure to leave a dislike" haha

  • @asaltylapis4316
    @asaltylapis4316 7 років тому +250

    Yay! you maxxed an Arsene for me Sephi-kun, still... I wish they put a bit more thought into the main characters persona when it came to normal leveling.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +85

      Yeah I maxed him because MC Personas don't get enough love D:

    • @AyameAkito
      @AyameAkito 7 років тому +7

      I wonder.... Can Arsene en up with 89 Magic?? and Which skills is Arsene most likely to Inherit??

    • @maysen51
      @maysen51 7 років тому

      Diaz Chatnoir arsene mostly inherits magic skills

    • @DarknessRealm
      @DarknessRealm 5 років тому +3

      @@SephiZack Bro I own Arense as my main because he's badass persona 😁

    • @denkerbosu3551
      @denkerbosu3551 5 років тому +1

      Another reason to love P5's gameplay is that you can now with the electric chair + the skill cards you can get one amazing Initial Persona.

  • @exogu2208
    @exogu2208 7 років тому +243

    OMG!!! those "Arsene" status, this is totally worth doing....Thanks man.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +66

      Pumping Arsene because he didn't get enough love from Atlus :D

    • @JR384
      @JR384 7 років тому +56

      I'm really sad that they don't give the Protagonist's Persona more love. I mean, I know they're supposed to be the first one and therefore not very good - but it'd be awesome to see some more progression with it so it doesn't become useless after so many early levels. Like it'd be cool to see Arsene legitimately get some strong physical skills and magic skills and have balanced stats. It really sucks having to abandon the Persona that saved the lives of my friends (which led to them getting their Personas) just because they aren't going to learn skills that are strong enough to warrant their stats.

    • @Lucifronz
      @Lucifronz 7 років тому +3

      +PokemonTrainer77 It's fine, because as always, the initial Persona of the protagonist becomes his ultimate Persona in the end.
      And at least this game has strengthening options. P3P had the ability to raise stats through arcade stuff, which was honestly better for stats, but being able to sacrifice Personas to strengthen one is very handy.

    • @JR384
      @JR384 7 років тому +10

      Still - I just want to be able to do, say a solo persona run. The entire party works together to beat the enemy with each member having a distinct advantage and disadvantage. Kinda want Persona 6's first playthrough to lock the protagonist to their primary and canon persona - and no Personas are required to do social links and get rank ups with them - and that's just the canon storyline. Then when you unlock the NG+, you get the Power of the Fool Arcana, are able to freely switch - and all enemies get a massive boost in their stats leading the game to be sensibly more difficult.

    • @Toonami4EvaX
      @Toonami4EvaX 7 років тому +6

      PokemonTrainer77 not having the fool Arcana prevents you from doing the journey to begin with tho. Every journey in the persona games (except the first 2 I think, I never played them) had 1 person with the fool to start the journey. If you don't have one not only do I think it's impossible to even start it but even if it was you wouldn't get far with everyone only having 1 persona. The entire party would end up dying.
      Just look at the animes. Had the protagonists not had the ability to use multiple personas they'd all have died.
      If you really want to use 1 persona then no ones stopping you but I highly doubt you'd last that long.

  • @DoctorThundah
    @DoctorThundah 7 років тому +83

    I'm glad you addressed why personas above level 80 aren't good damage dealers. I was wondering if it was just my imagination, but it seems like stats make much more of a difference in this game than they did in the previous ones. This makes what I was seeing make a lot more sense. Great video, man.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +8

      Glad you found it helpful ;)

    • @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670
      @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670 7 років тому +1

      Doctor Thunder
      It sucks if you can't do this with Messiah. I really want to make him good in this game (it was difficult to do in P3).

    • @matthewmclean6574
      @matthewmclean6574 7 років тому

      You could maybe NEARLY max one stat for messiah normal, lvl 81 i think, he's the onlly persona who learns almighty boost naturally so just focus on magic and network fuse for almighty amp or somefink

    • @yuri_cobaia
      @yuri_cobaia 6 років тому +2

      they should have introduced a way to decrease a persona lvl

    • @s_oba
      @s_oba Рік тому

      Funny seeing “personas above level 80 aren’t good damage dealers” as a Royal player

  • @rustyshackleford8581
    @rustyshackleford8581 7 років тому +71

    Wow, first time I heard a UA-camr says to press dislike if they dislike the video. Usually UA-camrs would say the other way round. But I don't dislike the video. Good guide by the way.

    • @Fengatsu
      @Fengatsu 7 років тому

      Linus from LinusTechTips also says to press the dislike button :P and yeah good guide for sure!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +10

      I've actually heard it from someone else so I thought "hey, as someone who is watching, this is actually a good thing" so I think I will keep it from now on. Many subscribed people or fans will like a video as soon as it starts without seeing all of it. I feel like if you think the content is not up to the standard of the other ones, you should probably dislike it even if it's like your favourite youtuber (and maybe leave some feedback on why and how it could be improved)

    • @Fengatsu
      @Fengatsu 7 років тому +1

      I'm reallig liking your guides, Hope you can grow and keep doing it!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      I already see the drought of games in the next few months, my channel will stop growing and everyone will leave xD

    • @fredrickbutts2392
      @fredrickbutts2392 7 років тому

      SephiZack sub because your a cool dude lol

  • @taesang5664
    @taesang5664 5 років тому +47

    did this for 8 hours yesterday. i felt like i was gonna DIE. went down for dinner afterwards and everywhere i looked i saw the persona stats screen, and i kept hearing voices whispering something to me... NANI O NAI ON DEIRU

    • @projectiony4048
      @projectiony4048 3 роки тому +2

      Yea I feel like I was going to go insane if I keep hearing the twins so I just mute the sound

  • @ritviktaneja9596
    @ritviktaneja9596 7 років тому +38

    Dude you're amazing. People on persona 5 game forums don't know how this work. Didn't even know sacrificing personas that give less EXP lets you narrow the stats you want to boost significantly. You're the best

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +9

      I'm actually surprised people on Persona 5 forums wouldn't know this o_O

  • @zeroxiiimk2
    @zeroxiiimk2 6 років тому +47

    "You lack patience"

  • @26magicman26
    @26magicman26 5 років тому +94

    Got Kaguya from base (lvl 16) to lvl 94.. cost roughly 4.25 million yen and took about 3 - 3½ hours. Just to give you an idea of how much time and money it takes.

    • @rosettevila5506
      @rosettevila5506 4 роки тому +3

      yikes

    • @thomascash2859
      @thomascash2859 4 роки тому +2

      Hey. Can ask some questions. I still abit confuse. Basically up personal, use what to sacrifice is batter? Is that high level or just normal same level?

    • @swwweee
      @swwweee 3 роки тому +2

      @@thomascash2859 when you level up a persona and focus on some stats and not the total stats you must use a fodder that is lower level. If u use a fodder that has the same level the stats will always be in total and not focused on what you want. I have has the same problem of you and i was still able to get an Alice with 80 in magic

    • @thomascash2859
      @thomascash2859 3 роки тому

      @@swwweee thank you my fren😀 now i playing hollow knight.. hahaha

    • @swwweee
      @swwweee 3 роки тому

      @@thomascash2859 thank you too, now im playng strasburg court CEDU

  • @royalmelee11
    @royalmelee11 7 років тому +130

    WTF?! You could delete your Persona?! Damn I've beaten this game twice and I never even knew that lol thanks for the tips man gonna make my life a whole lot easier

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +16

      Same, I discovered it by chance at the end of my second playthrough xD

    • @ethanliu4883
      @ethanliu4883 7 років тому +15

      SephiZack 103 hours and I didn't even know.

    • @kionera96
      @kionera96 7 років тому +38

      'You cannot hold any more masks' must be pretty common for you xD

    • @royalmelee11
      @royalmelee11 7 років тому +10

      Indeed up till now I've been clearing space by strengthening and itemizing lol

    • @dethkruzer
      @dethkruzer 7 років тому +2

      I didn't know that either, up till now I've just sent all the stuff I don't want or need to the gallows. (because I haven't unlocked itemizing yet)

  • @jotimaro1729
    @jotimaro1729 7 років тому +226

    I need persona 6 in my life now

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +19

      I feel the pain too ;(

    • @Kiseki_Fan2k24
      @Kiseki_Fan2k24 7 років тому +32

      Atlus just registered a bunch of trademarks including P5R and Persona 6, Persona 7, and Persona 8. Alot are saying P5R is Persona 5 Red which is like Persona 4 golden since Persona 5 uses Red as its theme and P4 used gold as its theme so P5R is probably a re-release of Persona 5 with extra content such as the Aeon Arcana from previous games. The other things are self explanatory. With the huge success of P5 its pretty obvious that Atlus will want to make more games in the franchise hence why they registered P6, P7, and P8

    • @Kermthefrog
      @Kermthefrog 7 років тому +24

      Really hope that an enhanced version of Persona 5 is a few years away at best. I don't like the idea of paying for an enhanced version of a game that I've already paid full price for.

    • @3heads0thoughts
      @3heads0thoughts 7 років тому +11

      persona 5 red??? c'mon yall it's persona 5 ruby.

    • @Saffreuge
      @Saffreuge 7 років тому +4

      if we are following the P4/P4G nomenclature, then Persona 5 Crimson is more like it.

  • @iloveemiliaandrem9443
    @iloveemiliaandrem9443 5 років тому +23

    If they don't give me more control over persona fusion in persona 5 the royal...............
    I'm gonna complain online!

    • @grenjasom6002
      @grenjasom6002 4 роки тому

      Now alarm fusion makes it too easy, and you can max every stat

  • @SpecterReaper
    @SpecterReaper 5 років тому +46

    It's kinda weird how Arsene is the only initial Persona that's weak to two types. Everyone else in your party is only weak to one.
    Captain Kidd = Wind
    Zorro = Electric
    Carmen = Ice
    Goemon = Fire
    Johanna = Psychokinesis
    Milady = Nuclear
    Robin Hood = Curse
    Arsene = Bless.......and also Ice.

    • @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC
      @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC 5 років тому +8

      Lmao. At least he has a darkness resistance. Now imagine a persona with 2 weaknesses, with no resistances and one of it's weakness is instant kill. You don't need to. Look at Orpheus in his OG game. Worse initial persona in the entire series

    • @elflordyt6830
      @elflordyt6830 4 роки тому +3

      In persona 3 you have no strengths an two weaknesses: Lightning and Darkness. It was a metaphor for how shocked you will be at how hard and dark the game is.

  • @Rajivrocks-Ltd.
    @Rajivrocks-Ltd. 6 років тому +1

    Bought Persona 5 when i got my PS4 in january because i heard so much good stuff about it and it massively exceeded those expectations that i had. I finished the game about a week ago now i'm on NG+ and i'm gonna try to make an OP persona with this technique. I figured i was not gonna have fun playing NG+ and I wouldn't play it at all but starting NG+ and seeing what i can still do (max all confidants before ending the game, find all locations(cuz somehow i still missed some Q.Q) and all the other stuff for trophies :)) Thanks a lot for these videos of yours, this inspired me to go on after i finished the first playthrough!

  • @unclebenandcracka
    @unclebenandcracka 7 років тому +19

    "...if you didn't feel free to leave a dislike."
    who would?

  • @MakenshiCritiques
    @MakenshiCritiques 7 років тому +10

    very informative video bro, keep up the fantastic work! so glad you channel is growing so rapidly, its a great thing to see in such a short space of time. You deserve it

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +3

      Hey thank you, chatting with you during the livestream was entertaining ;) I wish the best of luck to your channel too!

    • @MakenshiCritiques
      @MakenshiCritiques 7 років тому +1

      cheers bro. Thank to you videos im learning something new about the game every day, I didn't even know that if you exit and re-enter the gallows fusion page that the stats bonuses change. That will be so helpful in future.

  • @MayflysWill
    @MayflysWill 7 років тому +3

    That Arsene. ❤ I'm now motivated to level him up.

  • @Plushmellow
    @Plushmellow 7 років тому +1

    Thank you! I would have never thought about the register/resummon thing.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      Without that, min maxing would take months in the game D:

  • @GamerJosh2611
    @GamerJosh2611 5 років тому +3

    I wish they’d naturally made Arsene a good persona, HE LOOKS SO COOL AND I WANNA KEEP HIM

  • @ffsjonas5278
    @ffsjonas5278 7 років тому +2

    Great video again man! This is really, REALLY helpful for me as I was just in the process in doing something like this, so good timing :P

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Yeah I assumed now it would be a good time, as many people are reaching the point in game where you can do this

  • @pokemondude45
    @pokemondude45 7 років тому

    You got the best P5 vid guides I've seen so far. Keep it up!

  • @taesang5664
    @taesang5664 4 роки тому

    this is a really tedious process and you need to have a lot of patience. but if you manage that, you’d be able to enjoy sitting on top of everything in this game lol. my endgame personas are
    satanael: one-shot kill and riot gun
    asura: atomic flare and cosmic flare
    alice: black viper and megidolaon
    black frost: diamond dust and ice age
    siegfried: god’s hand and gigantomachia
    attis: inferno and blazing hell
    vishnu: panta rhei and vacuum wave
    kohryu: psycho force and psycho blast
    metatron: kougaon and makougaon
    beelzebub: aeigaon and maeigaon
    odin: thunder reign and wild thunder
    ishtar: medic
    all of them have their respective boost and amp, as well as magic ability. i also covered all of their weaknesses, and they have 89 stats in ma or st,depending on their specialty. i equip that nataraja and the crystal skull for +10 on all stats so that becomes 99 lol

  • @JagrasSneedandFeed
    @JagrasSneedandFeed 6 років тому

    I cant find a guide like this anywhere else, thank you so much for this

    • @icybite7342
      @icybite7342 6 років тому

      Cody Trent yeah me too and some of that is suck -_-

  • @rodrigoarteaga8686
    @rodrigoarteaga8686 7 років тому +3

    Great guide!! Its exactly what I needed!! Thank you for making this!!!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      I read people's minds before deciding which video to make ;D

  • @Averi0
    @Averi0 5 років тому +3

    Took me about an hour, maybe longer, to level Arsene up by 32 levels while trying to min max EN, MA, and LU.

  • @Oh_Ok0
    @Oh_Ok0 4 роки тому

    You can also get the Ronald Medal from the Shady Commodities to get All Stats+5. Just a reminder.

  • @buggydust
    @buggydust 7 років тому +1

    this is an incredibly helpful guide! thanks for the great tips

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Hey glad it was helpful

  • @grimelsnonsense7155
    @grimelsnonsense7155 7 років тому +3

    Thanks for the info. I'm a Persona noob so this was helpful.

  • @poringzan2202
    @poringzan2202 7 років тому

    Quality content. Because min-maxing is important for some people (including me). I like how you made the point to use low level fodder, that's my problem coz I couldn't get the stats I want since I kept using the treasure demon (and thus gains too much levels).

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Yeah I also that problem when starting, I had to keep summoning lower and lower level personas because every time they gave me too much exp

  • @cookies23z
    @cookies23z 4 роки тому

    ty for this :) great, short, direct explanation of how it works

  • @MrJoeyWheeler
    @MrJoeyWheeler 7 років тому

    This is very informative, and explained why I couldn't get Messiah's stats to increase when I decided on him to be my Confusion Grinder. I think I'll use someone lower-levelled now.

  • @baronblackbear385
    @baronblackbear385 7 років тому

    Nice video, I've been loving your Persona 5 content since I stumbled upon it, really useful information. I know you did a video on the Personas with the strongest skills in the game already, but would you consider doing one about how to which Personas give out the more powerful/useful Skill Cards through itemization? Either way, keep up the good work!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      Hey I actually didn't think about doing that. I think I will do it unless I forget

  • @Refres3xh
    @Refres3xh 7 років тому +1

    would love to see a video showcasing your personas and skill sets

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      My personas are really just random ones I found because that's how I played the game. The only interesting ones are those I've already shown in videos

  • @drewmeister11
    @drewmeister11 7 років тому

    I used gallows to make a Persona that would be immune, repel, or absorb literally everything except fire, which it was still strong against. That was a fun process that let me completely trounce the twins fight.

  • @内田ガネーシュ
    @内田ガネーシュ 6 років тому

    My first Persona. I try for securing the route on the first day, currently in the final vault at Kaneshiro's palace (hope I spelled it right). Level 20 on merciless. Damn that Demon Lord fight was hard. I won after like 6 tries then when on my way back to the safe house the weird camera mechanic got me. Had to do it all over again till the last chamber. Threw at least a zillion controllers in my head.

  • @reggy7706
    @reggy7706 5 років тому +3

    Hopefully in P5R Arsene gets more love by getting more skills

    • @-cams.
      @-cams. 5 років тому

      If they somehow make poor Arsene more useless than before, _someone's studio will explode._

  • @SPICYMONKEYXD
    @SPICYMONKEYXD 7 років тому +1

    Another great guide, thank you so much!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      Thank you for the support :)

  • @DnDorBust
    @DnDorBust 6 років тому

    I never realized that about the stats, no wonder my black ooze was so much better in damaging opponents, hell its luck was also incredibly high at level 40 compared to my level 70 summoned demons

  • @RyanDotEXE
    @RyanDotEXE 7 років тому

    Very helpful. I've beaten the game twice now. Neither was on merciless difficulty. This will help me do just that. :)

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Hey glad you found it helpful :)

  • @rocketpunchgo1
    @rocketpunchgo1 7 років тому

    Love your stuff man, congrats on the huge amount of new Subscribers (myself included)! Anyway, when it comes to Persona 5, if I use a persona to fuse or create a weapon/etc, do I lose that persona and need to go and find another one? If they are in the Compendium they remain mine to use over and over again, correct? (Example: Use Arsene to fuse with another persona, will I no longer have Arsene) Thank you!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      You can keep summoning from the compendium without issues.

    • @rocketpunchgo1
      @rocketpunchgo1 7 років тому

      Thanks!

  • @MKP2W
    @MKP2W 7 років тому

    Congratz on the subs! You deserve it! just a couple days ago you were talking about wanting to reach 500, now look at ya mr big shot! haha

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      I'm still a small fish though ;D

    • @MKP2W
      @MKP2W 7 років тому

      Its a shame all those cool looking end game personas will never be as powerful as the ones you level using this method though. I guess you could just transfer over any skills you wanted from those.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      I guess they did it this way to balance the game a bit, but I wish there was a "delevel" option in game

  • @billchen4346
    @billchen4346 7 років тому +1

    thank you very much. Check your channel first thing in the morning for this vid.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +2

      Honoured to get checked first thing in the morning :D

    • @billchen4346
      @billchen4346 7 років тому +1

      You'er a truly humble person, I appreciate your content and when you said you going to release a video tomorrow to explain everything clear, of course I'm tuning in. Keep up the good work my friend! ; )

  • @PlzSenpai
    @PlzSenpai 7 років тому

    Happy holidays bro 4/20 ⛽️🔥

  • @dailynonsense9360
    @dailynonsense9360 5 років тому +1

    If only EV training Pokémon made this much sense. 😂

  • @eludeirkz7961
    @eludeirkz7961 7 років тому +17

    Honest question, is this even necessary? i beat the secret boss without doing this with only a bit of bad luck killing me (seriously fuck the random criticals) but other than that i dont think there is a real reason to do this?

    • @doriansz3130
      @doriansz3130 7 років тому +2

      Elude irkz Higher Difficulity and for fun some people like me i like to optimise my personas in the best way i can.
      I do this with all my rpgs

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +29

      Yeah no actual need to do this. This is mostly for completionists or people who enjoy min maxing. I played through the whole game twice and platinum'd the game without doing this, but after that I just felt like experimenting with random stuff (like the passives-only Arsene I made in this video)

    • @LolJuggerNuts
      @LolJuggerNuts 7 років тому

      Elude irkz no really its not necessary to do and it's just simply a means of minmaxing/ getting the perfect persona for personal gain. i have beaten the twins with a goonsquad of captured personas, with a few that i actually properly fused and inherited. so while its not needed to have something like that on video, it makes it easier.

    • @J_Themborn
      @J_Themborn 7 років тому +13

      This is just how it is with RPG players there's an instinct to want to be more power or rich even when it's unnecessary, working to get real powerful has a satisfying feeling to it.... although it's also the same reason why we buy 99 potions in JRPGs or loot everything and preserve it all WRPGs and never use them.

    • @kinamiya1
      @kinamiya1 7 років тому

      If there was a way of online vs
      Yes but since this is single player only no but fun for some people
      Its like pokemon iv hard time comsuming but you rekt shit in mp

  • @ryokunoko3158
    @ryokunoko3158 4 роки тому

    You can save first before gallows and then level up saves money

  • @J_Themborn
    @J_Themborn 7 років тому

    I should've realized using weaker Personas was better for controlling stat changes I just kept going with what was good enough

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      I used to use whatever gave me the highest amount of exp when I played through the game. It's only when I tried min maxing that I noticed it was better to level up slowly

  • @dylc3373
    @dylc3373 7 років тому

    hey, great jobs on the videos. wonderful advice thus far. I have a question tho, as of late I've noticed that I've been making redundant decisions for my persona's skills (I'm talking for the main character). as I'm going through leveling and fusing I have several persona that have skills like attack master and defence master for example. I don't think a persona that isn't equipped will have attack master trigger at the start of the battle so what would you recommend as a persona to dump those skills onto so I could focus others having more offensive or support skills

    • @dylc3373
      @dylc3373 7 років тому

      also what passive skills like attack master would you recommend and prioritize?

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      If you want a persona that has those skills at the start, then the choice is usually trivial as you would probably just use it to start the battle and then change to another persona on your first turn. There is also an option in the settings that you can change so that instead of changing the equipped persona after every battle, you will always keep the one you choose equipped.
      For skills, the 3 auto skills (Auto-Mataru, Auto-Makaru, Auto-Masuku) are the better version of Attack/Defense/Speed Master as they apply the effect to all your personas so get those 3 on one persona you will keep equipped by default. Apart from those 3 skills, the only thing I think you can inherit are elemental immunities in case you get attacked before swapping the persona

    • @dylc3373
      @dylc3373 7 років тому

      Awesome thanks. I've been playing around with fusions ignorantly. Hope you keep up the good work, you've earned a sub from me

  • @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670
    @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670 7 років тому

    Amazing video. I am curious though: is it possible to max all stats, or can you only max 3 of them?

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      With 304 total stats, you will always be able to max 3 of them at most. (Most of the time, if you truly want to go to 99, you'll be able to max only 2 )

    • @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670
      @animeequalsweeaboololfucki9670 7 років тому

      SephiZack
      Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it.

  • @HorrorGeek9
    @HorrorGeek9 7 років тому

    Great guide as always

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      And as always, thank you for the amazing reception :)

  • @Yurihyuga766
    @Yurihyuga766 3 роки тому +1

    Tip: If it only levels up to 1, try to go for only a single stat increase. It will give it 3 points instead of 1. For example, if only MA will increase, it will give it 3 points if your persona only levels up by one. That’s how I made my Arsene op in this game

  • @MrRikkles
    @MrRikkles 2 роки тому

    Maxing out Arsene's core stats... Only to render him unable to actually UTILIZE those stats with actual attack skills. Someone wants the Twins to royally mess him up.

  • @victorbui6341
    @victorbui6341 6 років тому +2

    Is it not possible to min/max by using Treasure Demons? I understand that they grant more exp, but if the Persona is increasing in stats in the areas you desire, why wouldn't you use Treasure Demons to speed up the process?
    I.e. Treasure Demon grants 3 levels and increases STR, END, and AGI upon level up, and I continue to exit/re-enter until those stats are selected every time?

    • @kaiblack1093
      @kaiblack1093 6 років тому

      i'm asking the same thing :/

  • @mnw8870
    @mnw8870 6 років тому

    Wow, thanks for the video and information. VERY helpful ^_^ this is my first Persona game so I was very confused. Thank you :]

  • @sana__6
    @sana__6 7 років тому

    When you say that min maxing like this can take a long time, can you give an estimate of just how long, with and without mainly using Treasure Demons?
    For instance, I'm on my third playthrough and thinking of completely starting over with my Arsene and making him Almighty-centric this time around (eg. Black Viper, the Almighty buffs, etc.). How long might that take? For that matter, how much money would that take? I'm sitting on maybe close to 9 million yen from my last playthrough right now.
    Frankly, if we're talking on the order of say, 6+ hours to get to level 99, I don't think I'd want to spend that much time.
    Also, on a different note, since you opened with your Kaguya, I've been curious. Is Shining Arrows kinda like the magic counterpart to Hassou Tobi? (although I understand it hits _between_ 4 and 8 times..) But anyway, does that mean that Shining Arrows can potentially outdamage the severe level magic skills? (eg. Ice Age, Morning Star, Black Viper, etc.)

  • @cloudshifter
    @cloudshifter Рік тому

    Can't you just grind alarm in mementos and get every Stat 99 with the malfunction strenghen persona since it doesn't give any xp?

  • @Charizard215
    @Charizard215 7 років тому

    Persona would be an incredible multi-player game. Persona battles?! Hell yeah!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +5

      But everyone immune to everything apart from Almighty D:

  • @mr.j7323
    @mr.j7323 6 років тому

    Great vid. But was meaning to ask. Is 99 ag necessary though?

  • @greengaleproductions
    @greengaleproductions 5 років тому

    Is it possible to start these projects earlier in the game? Seems really out of the way if you're already at endgame when you do this, and having them early makes their EXP-Gains come at a more natural pace. It might also be cheaper. (might)

  • @tryhardblvd1413
    @tryhardblvd1413 7 років тому

    Excellent work on your videos sir! I have a question for you. I am missing a lot of low level personas and I want to complete the compendium. What is the best way to figure out where I need to go to capture the ones I missed?

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      I would use the Persona 5 calculator instead and fuse them: chinhodado.github.io/persona5_calculator/index.html#/list

    • @tryhardblvd1413
      @tryhardblvd1413 7 років тому

      This is excellent. Thank you so much!

  • @Captain_Tryhard
    @Captain_Tryhard 7 років тому

    This guy's a legend

  • @lonedelphox4994
    @lonedelphox4994 5 років тому

    Never played a NG+ before. Do your personas in the compendium revert to their default levels and moves? Just wondering if I should build my perfect arsene and kaguya in my current game or wait until new game plus because I am nearly out of time.

    • @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC
      @SOMERANDOMPERSONNPC 5 років тому

      They'll stay the way that they're registered. Just summon them and bam, same skillset and stats from the last time you registered them

  • @danielluna9213
    @danielluna9213 3 роки тому

    I'll probably just keep Arsene forever on my next playthrough and feed him once a day so it's not annoying

  • @greatrng8099
    @greatrng8099 7 років тому +1

    Guide for finding all the treasure personas?
    Awesome vids though, keep it up!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Hey I will definitely do that, it might not be today though

  • @electrictoxic80
    @electrictoxic80 7 років тому

    How long did you take to min max one P? Getting 99 luck on my Shiki-Ouji is already a pain in the ass.

  • @duo7777
    @duo7777 7 років тому +3

    Hello thank you for the video i went and bought the persona 5 dlc for persona.

  • @alexwachter3619
    @alexwachter3619 6 років тому

    Hey quick question, so can you do this with any Persona? if you can when you start New Game+ will you be able to buy them from the compendium as early as you can? (Kamoshida Palace)

  • @airzonasprite4060
    @airzonasprite4060 5 років тому

    helpful video for a new player. Thanks

  • @jagiNON
    @jagiNON 7 років тому +2

    Thanks for the guides!

  • @joshuana5132
    @joshuana5132 7 років тому

    Out of curiosity, what do you end up keeping whenever you start a New Game+? I have no idea what stuff is kept and which are discarded when starting a New Game+, and I'm very curious about it.

  • @Firestar4041
    @Firestar4041 7 років тому

    When you wished to mid-maxed, but you end up only making the stats even through the playthrough ;-;

  • @amhz007
    @amhz007 7 років тому

    your vids are always good btw can you do a guide on how to defeat the secret boss it's so hard and i'm level 99 .you need specific skills with high personas i was hoping you can show us how .thanks

  • @Neogears1312
    @Neogears1312 7 років тому

    i know its asking for alot but would you be able to make at the very least a calendar guide for max confidants? i want to do that my second playthrough and i havent found any guides yet.

    • @Desdeslumi
      @Desdeslumi 7 років тому

      If it is a new game + you shouldn't have a problem,you'll have a lot of time since your social stats would be at a very high rank.

  • @HieuNguyen-eg8zt
    @HieuNguyen-eg8zt 7 років тому

    I haven't been able to find concrete information about what the actual stats do. Does Endurance reduce both Physical and Magic dmg? Does Luck affect crit at all or just status effects? Does Agility affect evasion/accuracy or just turn order? It'd be great if you could answer. Thanks!

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +1

      Endurance reduces all damage received (phys/mag), Luck affects criticals and Agility affects evasion/accuracy.
      Atlus' website has a Persona 5 manual, so I'm 99% sure this information is correct (atlus.com/persona5/manual/ps4/?pid=34)

    • @HieuNguyen-eg8zt
      @HieuNguyen-eg8zt 7 років тому

      Thanks a lot! I can't believe I forgot to check to see if a game manual existed, but those things are like afterthoughts nowadays. I was min-maxing a Miracle Punch persona for fun and was uncertain whether Luck would be useful or not.

  • @GeneralVan
    @GeneralVan 7 років тому

    Quick question. Would you say Sandalphon is a good Persona for the secret boss? I just did the Reaper Despair exploit and I fused a Sandalphon who is level 88 while I'm at 80. He has Auto-Matarukaja, Megidolaon, Angelic Grace, Repel Curse, that grave-phys attack, Marakunda, Matarunda, and High Counter. He also has 60 Magic. I have an Alice for Concentrate although she has 63 Magic.

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      I think all personas are generally good, it's only when min maxing that you can notice slight differences between them

  • @aznpanda510x
    @aznpanda510x 7 років тому

    YES! YES YES!!! Thank you so much!

  • @davion4777
    @davion4777 7 років тому

    Awesome. Just awesome. I was so mad at Atlus for making Arsene so cool but so useless. Now I made him a war machine! But, in the doing, I spent all my money xD is there a way to quick gain money?

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      The quickest way is confusing memento bosses. It doesn't work on all of them though

  • @jemery2916
    @jemery2916 7 років тому

    who is better to max? kaguya or kaguya picaro? I'd go for the regular kaguya for the wind resistance but does kaguya picaro have better worth? haven't looked in to it yet

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Normal Kaguya is better. Wind resistance and 6 less points in Strength (easier to max the other ones and for a magical damage dealer, Luck is better anyway because Strength doesn't give any benefit while Luck gives more resistance to status ailments). The only thing Picaro has which is "better" is High Counter instead of Counterstrike, but you probably aren't going to keep high counter anyway.

  • @kristapsvecvagars5049
    @kristapsvecvagars5049 4 роки тому

    What is the reason behind not increasing magic? Is that just for Arsene or is there another reason?

  • @timstalling75
    @timstalling75 7 років тому

    Thank you. Do the stats of your persona stack with your main character?

  • @FinalHero1
    @FinalHero1 7 років тому

    Thank you for this I was wondering how it worked. Is there anyway to reset your persona's level to do this or would I need to fuse a new one?

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Unfortunately no reset, so fusing is the only option. Keep in mind that fusing also levels up the Persona (depending on your confidant rank) and you can also exit/re-enter the fusion confirmation screen to change the stats, but if your confidant rank is very high the Persona will level up by many levels which could make manipulating those stats very difficult

    • @FinalHero1
      @FinalHero1 7 років тому

      SephiZack Ah that is unfortunate, thanks for the swift response.

  • @andreegeraldi1597
    @andreegeraldi1597 3 роки тому

    Is there no facilities to increase persona stats? Like if we refer back to persona 3, if we play on arcade our persona can get increase stat by 1 each time playing, so its taking long time but honest work into making a persona has 99 stat on every stat be it strength, magic, endurance, agility and luck

  • @heresy2944
    @heresy2944 7 років тому

    I’m doing this now but I’m going for Strength magic and agility with a bit of endurance is that a good idea?

  • @alanthedonut5725
    @alanthedonut5725 4 роки тому

    sorry im late but how much money did it take to level arsene up?

  • @Hakudan2
    @Hakudan2 5 років тому

    This is freaking awesome because this means that Arsene can be actually usefull and badass in NG+ and you can use him as your main persona (mostly, obviously not entirely lol) like your other teammates do with theirs. Great video, I will certainly take my time to do this.

  • @valkrieknights
    @valkrieknights 7 років тому

    I read somewhere that the fastest enemy only has 75 agility. So you can get away with having only 75 + the 10 from equipment. Not sure if it's true, but either way, it looks cool having 99 lol.

  • @Spritus3241
    @Spritus3241 5 років тому

    What about NG+ since my Kaguya P is level 80 now with some heavy stat modding already i wondered if the registry would reset.

  • @lilgreen4073
    @lilgreen4073 7 років тому

    how did you give kaguya those skills? if you didnt use skill cards im assuming you used the gallows. and if so what personas did you sacrifice to give what skills

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому

      Satan for Drain Ice and then there were lots of personas I had that had the rest of the skills

  • @grizzlybear3182
    @grizzlybear3182 7 років тому +3

    hey i love your video!, can you make a 100% Compendium That showcase all persona in the game video? i saw one but it's in Japan so maybe you can make the english version of it? really appreciate the reply

    • @SephiZack
      @SephiZack  7 років тому +2

      Yeah the reason I haven't done one is because I saw another video with 100% Compendium. I might think about doing it though

    • @grizzlybear3182
      @grizzlybear3182 7 років тому

      sweet! looking forward to it!

  • @cjthegoldenhunter
    @cjthegoldenhunter 5 років тому

    WHAT THE HELL, I NEVER SEEN THOSE PERSONAS BEFORE!!

  • @jonathanthong7367
    @jonathanthong7367 6 років тому

    Does this mean that you have to forgo the sp regen accessory? Is that worth it?

  • @issei13.2
    @issei13.2 6 років тому

    Can you make a video for moves that are unique to a specific persona (list all of them)(that only one persona can learn)