this is what real history is like. what they teach before university at the average school just isnt that engaging. if you're lucky and get into a good high school, you may get a taste of a more dialogue-based teaching style if you meet an excellent teacher or teachers. you start with memorizing dates and end with reading books like the memoirs of Napoleons Valet or some other scandalous book lmao. Real history is always messy and the best accounts are full of humor, insight, and new perspectives you can apply.
RainbowFury well if you think about it. Everything he built was destroyed in a single day. Suffered 9 years while Snake was asleep. Lost 2 limbs. Finally ‘Snake’ comes to save him from the brink of death. He found out that ‘Snake’ is not the real Big Boss but a mother base soldier (AKA Venom Snake). The real Big Boss was already healthy enough to save Kaz way before his limbs were even severed from him. But seems like saving Kaz wasn’t even worth Big Boss’s time. So he sent a copy of him to save Kaz which also serves as a starter mission to see if Venom Snake is any good. Also out of no where, Ocelot comes into the picture and is apparently Snake’s best friend and not Kaz himself. I would be really angry if I were in his shoes lol
The story of him going to America, meeting his dad, his mom dying and then drifting around, that was beautiful. My favourite character in the whole series.
I love how the Boss and Kaz can literally bullshit about anything for hours. Proof that love can bloom on the battlefield and truly The Twin Husbandos.
These tapes show one thing: Miller is a friggin' genius. If we had someone with his foresight, logistics, and business savvy in office, the USA would be much better.
He's also a fictional character deliberately written by a whole group of people to be the perfect, ideal buddy for The Greatest Soldier Who Ever Lived™
There’s an MGS5 model swap video where the helicopters are replaced by spinning, T-posing Ocelot. Just do the same with Huey’s model and we get the mental image of your comment.
Biggest. Che fanboys. Ever. Then again, as Ocelot said in TPP: "Once you create a character and put it out in public mind, it warps and twists with every baseless rumour."
Breaks the immersion of the game really. The legendary hero (and killer for hire) Big Boss, fellating a communist one-hit wonder that was Che Guevara. For fucks sake, BB even gets a make over to look more like El Doctor.
Yeah, so? By the end of the day, Big Boss was a war-monger creating wars just so his Outer Heaven had a reason to exist. It doesn't really break the immersion of the game than appeal to a sense of irony. But I guess not.
Thats a non sequitur; there's no "appeal to irony", Kojima is just a Che fanboy and it is reflected through his characters. Hell, BB isn't even the big bad guy yet, he's protecting a pacifist nation from invasion and disarming nuclear weapons. There's nothing morally ambiguous about what MSF or BB is doing. It's jarring to see a legendary hero who saved the world (twice) and raised a private army that protects the defenseless to proceed to fellate a one-hit wonder like Che.
BuzzBee I don't think you realize what a 'non sequitur' is. It's a completely unrelated argument to the topic at hand. Jarring, you say? I don't think you realize how MSF works. Costa Rica may have been officially neutral during the Cold War, but it had no problem funneling money to the United Fruit Company, which was a CIA front company, as well to other intelligence agencies. The MSF was, first and foremost, a place for soldiers to find use after their government tossed them aside like toys. The second was that as a PMC they could do what they pleased with their clients' permission because, not being a governmental group, they and their clientele could keep their hands clean. MSF doesn't protect the defenseless - it protects whoever pays it to. It is a mercenary company. In that it is *wholly* ambiguous. Che is mentioned because of his impact - positively and negatively - on military guerrilla tactics and for South American relations. You can say he's a one-hit wonder, but his tactics are responsible for the creation of the Green Berets - a group Big Boss was a part of before he moved to covert ops. You can call Kojima a Che fanboy but I see the broader subject. If anything, *I* find it jarring when kiddos throw around logical fallacies they don't actually understand. I was offering an answer to your comment about why BB was a Che fanboy, and of course you stuck up your nose and ignored it. No worries. I just happen to know more than you.
No goofy goober, it's a non sequitur to say "So what BB fellates Che, he's a war monger XD". Feigning intellectual superiority by spewing more irrelevant horseshit and calling detractors 'kiddos' doesn't even make you right in internet arguments. But it's my fault for engaging with a fanbase whose only counter to any and all criticisms of their favorite game creator is saying "it's 2deep4u".
Yeah it’s a shame mgs5 tapes don’t nearly live up to the quality of the ones in peacewalker by being mainly just plot essential and not having anything that actually lets their characters shine through talking about non essential things
"That's why the tide in the intelligence world is shifting towards SIGINT" Huh, wonder how naked snake felt and what he was thinking when he heard that term and name
decoyoctopusra From what was said of the media testers that were able to play for like 16 hours that most of the game's dialogue is actually in the tapes rather than cut scenes.
***** No, it's not the same actor. Cam Clarke was the voice of Liquid/Miller in MGS1.......the actor playing Miller in Peace Walker is Robin Atkin Downes
To be honest, Snake's voice is way too gruff in Peace Walker. I think that Kojima made the right decision hiring Kiefer Sutherland instead. He doesn't talk much in Ground Zeroes, but I love his voice, very fitting for Snake's age (especially in the Phantom Pain).
+Uncertain Melon Duh. You can't erase the years of voice work Hayter put in for "one" character. At all. Doesn't matter how much better Kiefer is. Hayter is synonymous with Snake.
4:46 this They could have the outer ops thing and expand it, the intel team could handle logistics contracts and the R&D staff could handle the weapons.
Miller could be Wesker's clone!? 🤯🤯🤯. or..... Wesker is Kaz's father? also two man in the box; Wesker: glad to be you, boss! Snake: wait, you aren't Kaz. arghhhh!!!!! it hurts!!! stop it!!
I'd better like Kaz in peace walker than in phantom pain and ground zeroes one because they changed his appearance which more like David Bowie than Kaz himself. besides, they had changed Kaz's personality and his voice too gruff!! 😫😫. i love Kaz in peace walker! he has his original appearance, and happy funny person! i love you Kaz but I want your ' original' of yourself 🥺🥺. please Hideo, don't change his appearance and personality! Kaz like this in peace walker is better than other metal gear game!
@chiliconcomrades i downloaded this for my psp and even though it said it was an hour and seven minutes long when i looked at it on my psps it turned into 6 and half hours long i checked to see if it was looping but it wasn't it played normal and have EVERY conversation they had i loved that i was just suprised to see how long it was. Can you explain to me why it expanded after i downloaded it?
41:22 you swallowed your pride and shouted "nuh-uh you didn't win!" and then snake went "moooom! kaz isnt playing the game right!" and the boss just sighs
Which coincidence I was the Colombian city which Snake was training people Barranquilla, I hope that Sanke liked the Barranquila´s carnaval, and the barranquilla´s ladies not bad. =)
I can't access any, ANY of the briefing files on any of the missions. They all show up as gray, even the data files. I beat the 3rd peace walker fight but I remember before doing so fighting chrysalis I remember being able to listen to Huey talk about it in briefing. I only noticed because I got a tape to listen to that has something to do with EVA but I literally cannot listen to ANY of the briefing files under ANY of the missions.
It has nothing to do with effort, heck Hayter even vomited during the recording for this game because of the coughing he had to do after the torture sequence. It's the voice direction. And no, it's not understandable that you replace an iconic voice actor for some Hollywood shmuck who gives a flat, exasperated delivery for the 5 lines of dialogue he has in the game.
@@Alexander-nr5tt Exactly, Hayter was doing a deeper 'gravlier' voice for a much older Snake. I understand replacing him for Keifer if it was just from the perspective of getting a new voice for an even older Snake, but the actual justification for it was just dumb. Hayter absolutely didn't put less effort in.
never finished peace walker but i scoured through the wikias and now the tapes. like i did mgsv. i would do ground zeroes but mgsv tpp covers the whole incident. mostly.
if i was you, id stil atleast watch the mgsv cutscenes. thats basically what i did, skimmed the gameplay of a playthrough, watched the cutscenes and tapes.
Man, Miller's voice is perfect. Love the voice actor.
It's also the voice actor for the medic from Team Fortress 2
@@spidermanfan31 MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMMMM
He sounds so excited talking about the platform like he's opening a bed and breakfast with Big Boss.
This is not Cam Clarke from MGS but a different guy
@@spidermanfan31 ARCHIMEDES!
Bro, guys... Imagine having a history class with these two talking like this? would be my favorite class of the day.
I'd like to be in that class as well. I'd bring a tape recorder to every lecture.
@@XenoJaed Hipster. XDXD
this is what real history is like. what they teach before university at the average school just isnt that engaging. if you're lucky and get into a good high school, you may get a taste of a more dialogue-based teaching style if you meet an excellent teacher or teachers. you start with memorizing dates and end with reading books like the memoirs of Napoleons Valet or some other scandalous book lmao. Real history is always messy and the best accounts are full of humor, insight, and new perspectives you can apply.
LOCAL MAN PLAYED LIKE DAMN FIDDLE
Questions why they’re still there.
Is that the twin fantasy dog
Miller is one of the most intelligent characters of the series.
And also one of the most angriest.
RainbowFury well if you think about it. Everything he built was destroyed in a single day. Suffered 9 years while Snake was asleep. Lost 2 limbs. Finally ‘Snake’ comes to save him from the brink of death. He found out that ‘Snake’ is not the real Big Boss but a mother base soldier (AKA Venom Snake). The real Big Boss was already healthy enough to save Kaz way before his limbs were even severed from him. But seems like saving Kaz wasn’t even worth Big Boss’s time. So he sent a copy of him to save Kaz which also serves as a starter mission to see if Venom Snake is any good. Also out of no where, Ocelot comes into the picture and is apparently Snake’s best friend and not Kaz himself. I would be really angry if I were in his shoes lol
Yes!
@@sheepgoesmoo4281 everything snake built*
@@Slavic_Snake they built it together
i had homework to submit about hiroshima and nagasaki. i got full marks on it thanks to this.
And people say video games can't teach you anything
ya436 you're pretty good
Are you serious?
i did the same with god of war in high school got an A
"We were gonna start a band together. ):" Oh, Kaz.
The story of him going to America, meeting his dad, his mom dying and then drifting around, that was beautiful. My favourite character in the whole series.
Wow. The voice acting in the "Upbringing" tape is so good. There's a couple times where it sounds like Kaz is fighting back tears.
To be honest ,I think Kaz is more philosopher than a fighter
+Lance Sparda He can fight, but his specialty is tactics and command, whereas Snake is direct in the field.
Philosopher you say?
Hmmmmmm....
@@blacktigerpaw1. Definitely more of an administrative asset than combatives.
@@scienceuser99 that rings true in TPP when he was down two limbs
I could listen to Kaz talk all day.
I love how the Boss and Kaz can literally bullshit about anything for hours. Proof that love can bloom on the battlefield and truly The Twin Husbandos.
"Twin Husbandos", lol.
Shoutout to Liquid and Solid's kiss during the final fight in MGS4.
Thanks kaz, your the perfect study guide to my up coming test.
How'd it go
How did it went?
How it izzz?
Man it goes to show that Miller's voice and that Liquid did an excellent impression of it to fool Solid in MGS1, I would have been fooled too.
he played him like a fiddle!
Marcus McDonald It makes perfect sense, even I'd have been fooled if I wasn't so familiar with their actors.
+Filip Wolski *violin
+Alejandro Knoxville the codec has no video feed, it's just there for the players
These tapes show one thing: Miller is a friggin' genius. If we had someone with his foresight, logistics, and business savvy in office, the USA would be much better.
President Kazuhira Miller huh
eumerius fárukus
THE PAIN
THE PAINNNNNNNNN
Miller is a fake game character
And his humanity. When leading people, that's importan too.
He's also a fictional character deliberately written by a whole group of people to be the perfect, ideal buddy for The Greatest Soldier Who Ever Lived™
2:34
"We finished installing the recovery hook on the *Huey*."
There’s an MGS5 model swap video where the helicopters are replaced by spinning, T-posing Ocelot. Just do the same with Huey’s model and we get the mental image of your comment.
I thought they were called choppers?
@@natethegreat7967 mmmm yes the HU-1 *h u e y*
Funny thing is that you get this tape before you meet Huey, but he indeed referred to the helicopter.
Love it how snake and miller are having casual conversations, they truly are best freinds at this point.
In Japanese version there are also a few tapes talking about curry, mountain dew, and pepsi nex. Have they appeared in English version?
Alex Zexis Nope.
@@kingdomcome3914 😩
Came for Snake's banter, got surprising lesson on the history of warfare. Well played, Kojima.
1:03:00 Thank you Kojima. The time came for a younger generation to rise.
Biggest. Che fanboys. Ever.
Then again, as Ocelot said in TPP: "Once you create a character and put it out in public mind, it warps and twists with every baseless rumour."
Breaks the immersion of the game really. The legendary hero (and killer for hire) Big Boss, fellating a communist one-hit wonder that was Che Guevara. For fucks sake, BB even gets a make over to look more like El Doctor.
Yeah, so? By the end of the day, Big Boss was a war-monger creating wars just so his Outer Heaven had a reason to exist. It doesn't really break the immersion of the game than appeal to a sense of irony.
But I guess not.
Thats a non sequitur; there's no "appeal to irony", Kojima is just a Che fanboy and it is reflected through his characters. Hell, BB isn't even the big bad guy yet, he's protecting a pacifist nation from invasion and disarming nuclear weapons. There's nothing morally ambiguous about what MSF or BB is doing. It's jarring to see a legendary hero who saved the world (twice) and raised a private army that protects the defenseless to proceed to fellate a one-hit wonder like Che.
BuzzBee I don't think you realize what a 'non sequitur' is. It's a completely unrelated argument to the topic at hand.
Jarring, you say? I don't think you realize how MSF works.
Costa Rica may have been officially neutral during the Cold War, but it had no problem funneling money to the United Fruit Company, which was a CIA front company, as well to other intelligence agencies. The MSF was, first and foremost, a place for soldiers to find use after their government tossed them aside like toys. The second was that as a PMC they could do what they pleased with their clients' permission because, not being a governmental group, they and their clientele could keep their hands clean.
MSF doesn't protect the defenseless - it protects whoever pays it to. It is a mercenary company. In that it is *wholly* ambiguous.
Che is mentioned because of his impact - positively and negatively - on military guerrilla tactics and for South American relations. You can say he's a one-hit wonder, but his tactics are responsible for the creation of the Green Berets - a group Big Boss was a part of before he moved to covert ops. You can call Kojima a Che fanboy but I see the broader subject.
If anything, *I* find it jarring when kiddos throw around logical fallacies they don't actually understand. I was offering an answer to your comment about why BB was a Che fanboy, and of course you stuck up your nose and ignored it. No worries. I just happen to know more than you.
No goofy goober, it's a non sequitur to say "So what BB fellates Che, he's a war monger XD". Feigning intellectual superiority by spewing more irrelevant horseshit and calling detractors 'kiddos' doesn't even make you right in internet arguments. But it's my fault for engaging with a fanbase whose only counter to any and all criticisms of their favorite game creator is saying "it's 2deep4u".
Damn Miller....33:30-39:38
I couldn't STOP crying!!!😭💔
Kaz before the fiddle :(
Amazing how these characters have been fully developed by means of codec calls/cassette tapes. These are essentially radio plays.
Yeah it’s a shame mgs5 tapes don’t nearly live up to the quality of the ones in peacewalker by being mainly just plot essential and not having anything that actually lets their characters shine through talking about non essential things
Goddamn the Metal Gear Solid series is intelligent and full of useful information.
This is how you make proper single player game learn people learn
"That's why the tide in the intelligence world is shifting towards SIGINT"
Huh, wonder how naked snake felt and what he was thinking when he heard that term and name
“Snake, about cardboard boxes”
“AHHH NOW WE’RE TALKING”
I'm currently playing MGS V again so I'm loving listening to these as it really fills in the back story.
I swear, there better be tapes in the Phantom Pain. >_>; I love listening to these.
decoyoctopusra From what was said of the media testers that were able to play for like 16 hours that most of the game's dialogue is actually in the tapes rather than cut scenes.
+rrtt1 most of it is backstory. What happened between GZ and TPP.
39:20 FeelsBadMan Miller really has lost it all
Kaz before the fiddle...
Kaz before the burgers
Please, somebody help me/ What was Miller talking about on 23:10 ? "it tales a thief - or should a say snake - to know one, Snake" ?
Kaz is saying Snake stole his chances with Cecile.
These two are better than Wikipedia
***** No, it's not the same actor. Cam Clarke was the voice of Liquid/Miller in MGS1.......the actor playing Miller in Peace Walker is Robin Atkin Downes
that conversation about the walkman may be forshadowing the idroid
To be honest, Snake's voice is way too gruff in Peace Walker. I think that Kojima made the right decision hiring Kiefer Sutherland instead. He doesn't talk much in Ground Zeroes, but I love his voice, very fitting for Snake's age (especially in the Phantom Pain).
I agree. I love keifers voice, though sometimes Hayters voice fit some scenes better, I think kiefer lands the role better.
He sounds like he's told to sound. The problem is with the director here, 'cause Hayter's voice is still the same.
Not Todd Howard Kiefer's voice and acting is far superior. People are just attached to Hayter's voice.
Not Todd Howard I'm just going to pretend that he was sick from the rain in the start of PW and by Ground Zeroes he got over his cold.
+Uncertain Melon Duh. You can't erase the years of voice work Hayter put in for "one" character. At all.
Doesn't matter how much better Kiefer is. Hayter is synonymous with Snake.
16:34 Crowley and Aziraphels relationship in Good Omens in a nutshell
4:46 this
They could have the outer ops thing and expand it, the intel team could handle logistics contracts and the R&D staff could handle the weapons.
darthkahn45 what? In phantom pain?
KAZ I WANT YOU
"They say the honeycomb design is one of the strongest." *Insert sad laughing from the GZ/TPP community*
Not strong enough againts C4 explosives huh
In there defense they got completely blind sighted and heuy weekend them
@@Nzg41 Lynch Huey
Thinking of which
Kaz actually screwed the msf up by bringing Paz and professor Gálvez
Medic! (Lets see how many people get it)
Counter Life she's rigged. DAMMIT, we were set up!
He played the saw as if it was a damn fiddle !
-Miller! Are you sure this (Outer Haven) will work?!?!
-HAHAHA!!! I HAVE NO IDEA!!!!!!
17:08
Hoo boy
Miller’s voice like Travis Touchdown
heh...his voice here seems pure not tainted like the phantom pain...yeah yeah i know because phantom pain story is all about revenge and stuffs..
I could listen to a podcast of the characters ai generated, so nostalgic
I play this before goin to sleep🤣
Dat cardboard tank XD
He's so different in this game. In MGSV he's just "Ugh, Snake. Try harder."
Jesus Christ Miller you really had to inspire the war economy further
33:30 Miller's background
Thank you for uploading this :D
Miller always reminded of Wesker
Miller could be Wesker's clone!? 🤯🤯🤯. or..... Wesker is Kaz's father?
also two man in the box;
Wesker: glad to be you, boss!
Snake: wait, you aren't Kaz. arghhhh!!!!! it hurts!!! stop it!!
I'd better like Kaz in peace walker than in phantom pain and ground zeroes one because they changed his appearance which more like David Bowie than Kaz himself. besides, they had changed Kaz's personality and his voice too gruff!! 😫😫. i love Kaz in peace walker! he has his original appearance, and happy funny person! i love you Kaz but I want your ' original' of yourself 🥺🥺. please Hideo, don't change his appearance and personality! Kaz like this in peace walker is better than other metal gear game!
59:54 *as the recording is played on a portable medium that existed prior*
@chiliconcomrades
i downloaded this for my psp and even though it said it was an hour and seven minutes long when i looked at it on my psps it turned into 6 and half hours long i checked to see if it was looping but it wasn't it played normal and have EVERY conversation they had i loved that i was just suprised to see how long it was. Can you explain to me why it expanded after i downloaded it?
Can you pass the pipe
41:22 you swallowed your pride and shouted "nuh-uh you didn't win!"
and then snake went "moooom! kaz isnt playing the game right!"
and the boss just sighs
I love me some Cardboard Boxes
1:03:18 he is talking about The End
Which coincidence I was the Colombian city which Snake was training people Barranquilla, I hope that Sanke liked the Barranquila´s carnaval, and the barranquilla´s ladies not bad. =)
+zid mizarz Probably took the MSF boys there on vacation ;)
***** Yes I am sure it is.
how do you unlock every briefing file tape in the game?
Jda4160 Beat the game and start listening
23:04 who is the blonde psrisienne they are talking about ; is there any more info on that please reply
Cecile
I can't access any, ANY of the briefing files on any of the missions. They all show up as gray, even the data files. I beat the 3rd peace walker fight but I remember before doing so fighting chrysalis I remember being able to listen to Huey talk about it in briefing. I only noticed because I got a tape to listen to that has something to do with EVA but I literally cannot listen to ANY of the briefing files under ANY of the missions.
+Guts The Berserker did you check the second option (R1) when you first open the briefing files? that was my prob the first time i played it lol
i use to think this was the same actor in MGS1 miller/liquids voice haha
Betty it does sound a lot alike doesn't it. Guess he did a good impression without even realizing it
What's his name again?
John Cena
*****
Seems you don't get the joke, son. :P
TheManWithoutFear lmao
18:56 Snake isn't a racist, so that's a start.
Cecile should be the Queen Bee! :D
KAZ?
I wish big boss went team miller
Kaz has similar face and hair like Liquid
Leo Zamora yeah, that’s why the disguise worked!
55:30 Payday 2: *"GET THE FUCK UP"*
is there a tape where Kaz tells Boss that the package with these tapes came and wonders who EVA is?
Captain Alm I mean that tape exists yes
Wonder if there will be a enemy like the scout in TPP.
Yeah, there are enemy snipers from TPP. But they don't use Ghillie suits so they're way easier to spot.
Razum dar They don't counter CQC either...
Snipers suck I Shoot someone 50 Meters away with a supressed weapon and then some asshole Spots me 80 Meters away
25:59
9:05
UCLA
Unilaterally Controlled Latino Assets
University of California Los Angeles
Cardboard box tanks! XD
I love David Hayter's Snake, but obviously he put less effort in the recording for the later games. It is understandable Kojima replaced him in MGSV.
It has nothing to do with effort, heck Hayter even vomited during the recording for this game because of the coughing he had to do after the torture sequence. It's the voice direction. And no, it's not understandable that you replace an iconic voice actor for some Hollywood shmuck who gives a flat, exasperated delivery for the 5 lines of dialogue he has in the game.
@@Alexander-nr5tt Exactly, Hayter was doing a deeper 'gravlier' voice for a much older Snake. I understand replacing him for Keifer if it was just from the perspective of getting a new voice for an even older Snake, but the actual justification for it was just dumb. Hayter absolutely didn't put less effort in.
Man I forgot how much kojima salivates over Che Guevara
If you want to practice American accent, just watch it!!
Hey
Peace walker > phantom pain
Real
1:03:37 this is for something... just ignore this comment, lol.
44:06
Mr Burns!!
18:40 Kojima's cultural marxism showing.
You say that like it's a bad thing
@@Dark71138 Sorry for the late response, but it is. Bugman ideology.
I love snake's way of talking
never finished peace walker but i scoured through the wikias and now the tapes. like i did mgsv. i would do ground zeroes but mgsv tpp covers the whole incident. mostly.
if i was you, id stil atleast watch the mgsv cutscenes. thats basically what i did, skimmed the gameplay of a playthrough, watched the cutscenes and tapes.