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Why did Lord Shen accept his death? For 30 years, Lord Shen was completely committed to conquering all of China. He massacred the pandas, crafted a seemingly unstoppable weapon, and had prepared an entire army to go to war on his behalf. Yet, when a cannon began to fall upon him during his final battle, he didn’t even attempt to get out of the way. Lord Shen allowed his life to end, and today I want to understand why. Because I have to wonder: how can I avoid that path in my own life?
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Have a magical day! #kungfupanda #lordshen #shen #po #dreamworks #filmtheory #videoessay - Фільми й анімація
I hope he found peace with his parents in the spirit realm since apparently Hell doesn't exist in Kung Fu Panda
Same here
XD
Nah he wanted to die because he doesnt want to be proven wrong, he had no intention to change.
We know there is no Hell in KFP, but how do we know there isn't any other kind of (permanent or temporary) afterlife punishment for evildoers in KFP? If not, death for the KFP villains would just be the act of being transported from one place where they can torment the innocent to... another plain of existence where they can also torment the innocent.
Yes, Kai and Oogway were in the same place, but maybe Kai was in some kind of place of punishment and escaped using the stolen chi from other villains (much like he returned to Earth also using stolen chi).
So where did Kai go after Po killed him?
I think it's because he was demoralized and beaten by the pandas, particularly Poe who just humiliated him. One Panda took out his entire fleet of ships, and instead of accepting defeat, he chose death. Like a true warrior. They'd rather die than to suffer the disgrace and dishonor of knowing you lost in battle.
Exactly so true ppl in battle don't just give up they accept death, so when in battle, one lives one dies
True but po wanted him to live a better life, po didn’t wanted to humiliate him or make him suffer disgrace. But instead, shen still preferred to kill himself instead of accepting po’s words. I do hope that for the 4th movie, he can realize that po’s words truly matter. But if he doesn’t, then he deserves to stay dead. Sometimes not everyone deserves second chances.
Tai lung however, he is someone who I really want to get a second chance. Out of all the villains in kung fu panda, tai lung is the one who has most sympathy 😢
@@firemiracle I wish the same for tai lung too cuz I feel like outta all the villains tai lung is more relatable and deserves that chance
Also the likelihood of remaining his days in prison like Tai Lung.
Yet he bows to poe
“One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it.”
-Master Oogway 🐢
true.
On the road😊
Same difference if you think about it@@stefanstoica5913
Turtle! 🐢
"Mmm, Monkey!"@@matthewisguy7336
He finally accepted that his desire to avoid fate lead him to this. If he had let go and actually enjoyed his life and the oportunities presented to him things would have been different
He was just done.
Things wouldn’t have changed even if he didn’t make the decisions he did, his fate was set from the beginning, no matter what he would have done fate would have found a way
@@RajeshGupta-qp9hx The prophecy said that if he continued on his path, he would be defeated by a warrior of black and white. The way to avoid his destiny was in that same prophecy all along: to change his path. But as the Soothsayer said, the panda genocide was the point that sealed his fate
@@RajeshGupta-qp9hx better said, he was destined to make the decisions he made to have the fate he ultimately had.
0:40, He's not a Big Fat Panda, He's THE Big Fat Panda 🐼🐼
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Was just about to comment this then saw you already did. 😉😁
just commented this then saw you already did 😉😁
0:39 He's not "a" big fat panda, he's THE big fat panda.
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“Dreams were meant keep pursuing and the ones we have to turn away from as joy.”
-Issac Carlson
I saw another video by a UA-camr by the name of Sage's Rain i think where he said that shen accepting his death coupd have been two things.
1. He feel victim to his destiny, he could be seen as a warrior of black and white as well as Po. Whether it was Po's doing that caused his death or Shen's own hands in doing so fulfilling his prophecy.
2. He broke free from his destiny by not dying to Po's hands, instead finally making a choice in his life not being controled by destiny
BEST Kung fu panda villain!
He was the goat
@@theshenpartei Tai lung rules
The chameleon doesn’t exist
He will always be
Kai rules
I love how you tied Shen's journey and the choices he made to your own. But while shen sealed his fate and his dream and goals weren't mean to be, I know yours' are not. Your videos are fantastic, the effort you put in is amazing and the insight you've provided on some of my favorite movies are fascinating. Take care of yourself, don't worry, don't give up. Whatever happens, whatever you decide, we'll support you through it all.
In Asia, most warriors, honorable or not, would choose to die than be captured alive. Particularly in Japan, there was a method of honorable suicide, I forgot what it was called. I think that's kind of what Shen did, when he made that cannon fall on him.
It's called seppuku, if my memory serves right
@@ryannathaniel9296 That sound right, thx. There's a different one for women, but it's for the same reason
I think Shen's issue was pride, right up to the end. Him not confronting his past was more due to him refusing to acknowledge his own failings. He refused to admit he was wrong. But at the same time, he also kept trying to change his fate, only to keep setting the path to what he feared. Him accepting his death was either him accepting his fate (after so long trying to change it), or keeping control of it (out of pride).
I think Shen had a perfect ending, so his return in the 4th movie seems unneeded and only for fan service. He most likely won't even get a character arc or any developing scenes. It doesn't even make sense why the Chameleon would revive him; she wants Kung-Fu, Shen possesses that, yes, but it's not his greatest weapon, his mind is.
Just kinda bummed that this S-tier villain is being resurrected for no real purpose than for us to go, "Oh look, it's Shen!" again
Yea but she takes their form too and Shen is very agile
Headcanon
But the Chameleon does this bc maybe she knows how Lord Shen plays a very big impact on Po. Even if Po found inner peace, he abruptly pauses when Chammy!Shen flashes their tail at him. The symbols could still cause that kind of distraction to Po or maybe even fear those who have known his name or even yet experience what he did during his attack in Gongmen City
@@Skidibibapbapi wouldve loved this to have been canon
God, another wasted potential for the 4th movie
@@annemeownie if only there could have been a dialogue of the Chameleon taunting Shen how he’s too weak to be considered a “spirit warrior” let alone being mocked for becoming the soul purpose he swore to destroy
So Shen attacks and accidentally lets his guard down when Chammy steals his abilities
INSTEAD OF BEING ONE SHOTTED JUST AS HE ARRIVES
@@Skidibibapbap THIS! ESPECIALLY KAI TOO OMFG. Cuz in the deleted scene he actually KILLS Po. I cant imagine the guy who defeated every master in BOTH worlds lose to a tiny character who doesn’t even know kung fu😭
It seems like he accepted a bit of a samurai's fate like he would choose death over defeat. Also isaac's personal interest reflection during this video is actually very intriguing
I think he did ut because he realized that the Soothsayer was correct and he knew that no matter what he did he would get defeated by Po
I actually made a huge theory on this topic on your Lord Shen analysis video years ago.
1.) don't stress about the numbers
2.) never forget the reason you make videos
3.) count on the closest to you for Gideon's.
Easy for you to tell him not to stress about the numbers. At the end of the day he still needs to make a profit from the videos to keep making a living.
@@officebear4637 if I could get a decent PC I'd make Minecraft videos and so much more. But this isn't about me it's about Isaac and him needing to find his center.
"Death comes for us all. But something FAR WORSE is in store for YOU. For when you die, it will be.... without honor."
Out of all the villain in Kung Fu Panda (not including 4 because I haven't see it) Shen is without a doubt the weakness in terms of physical strength. Even in he's first entrance against Master Croc and Rihno, he himself agree he couldn't beat them.
I agree
As a Lord Shen enthusiast since 2011, I full heartedly agree BUT what makes up for what he lacks is his intellect. He can’t fight them, but he can always out maneuver them in a say(until he uses his weapons)
But unless he has a clear mindset of his foes like Po, he’ll have the higher advantage.
Yeah he may not be the strongest but still the smartest for sure
Don't bother watching KP4
So disappointing, could've been a masterpiece but no it's mid
Yea, I pretend that the movies ended at Kung Fu Panda 3.
Great video, Isaac. I think you’ll be on UA-cam for a while until you decide to retire. Just take breaks and don’t feel that you need to create two or more videos a week for us. You need to take a vacation as well just like us regular working people.
How tf did you post this 10hrs ago?
@@dinolover Isaac posted it early for members only.
I just love Lord Shen as a character, can't wait to see Kung Fu Panda 4 tmr :)
What do u think
eh erm
oh..
that’s a unfortunate thing if you love shen and are going to see the movie. (By the time i send this reply you’ve already seen it) as he gets treated like a absolute joke.
Man I really hope that you don't hurt yourself and quit Love your vids
Isaac man don't be knock down stay positive and look at the people who are still watching your vids we love them I know it can be hard to do stuff like this I am a podcaster myself so I know this road is it's a hard one but you will find people that do the same thing as you. With love and respect Alex
Truly, I am praying for you man. I don't know you personally, but I want you to know that whenever you are beating yourself up about your videos, know that there is a One, True God who is there to take your doubt and anxiety away. All you have to do is give it up to Him
Amen✝️🙏❤️ Praying for him and you as well✝️🙏❤️
Issac Carlson your videos have made my and your views lives better and helped us rediscover the wonder and curiosity we once had as children, because every time somebody stands up and creates something uniquely them as they stay to true themselves, The world becomes better.
He was tired and wanted to control his own fate.
This one was deep man. You are very brave to admit such things in camera. Thank you for inspiring me and touching my heart
YES! Voted for this! Thank you SO much!❤️❤️❤️❤️
Listen to your heart. A cliche but just listen to it beating. As long as it beats, you have hope...and hope and joy often intermingle.
bro you just made me cry with your video. that is not what I expected but I definitely needed it. im a digital artist and Its my full-time job, similar to being a content creator like yourself. I get discouraged and burnt out, worrying about every action I take. I really need to pivot and try and make sure I don't give up when I feel inadequate or when im uneasy about the future.
Shen should be reformed instead of death
Don’t give up making your videos
I love hearing your views and thoughts on Disney characters.
He's half alive half dead SPOILER FOR KUNG FU PANDA 4:Po is spiritual leader of the valley of peace/Oogways old job
Gotta just say, your video hits home for me. I've been struggling a lot with my past and people in my presant, and I'm afraid I'll let sadness stop me from pursuing the things I love. I think this video was really good for me at the right time. So you never know who your videos will touch or benifit. You're probably the reason I really fell in love with kung fu panda. I love watching your videos explaining them and now I'm super pumped for the 4th movie. I hope you can find passion again and you don't give up. We all are probably struggling a lot, and it's good to know that we're not alone. The struggling sucks but you have kindered spirits rooting for you~ So just wanted to give you some positive thoughts and say thank you~
somebody get the spray bottle Isaac is getting too existential and philosophical
You are so wonderful with your videos to go deeper into different movies. I always look forward to your work. Keep up your magical talent.❤❤
Im almost in tears because i hate to see people having lost faith in ones self...
Please know yoi have people who care..
I love you videos they make me smile when im down and out!
You are a blessed digital artist!😊
I'm so sorry about what you said about doubts about your channel. I wanted to hug you. But I think what you are feeling are growing pains, something we get at every stage of life where we reassess things. What you might have to think about is taking your channel into a different direction, focus on, I don't know, "life" stuff. But I have to say this was very thoughtful and very well made (first of your videos I've seen), so you clearly have skills, and, thank God, aren't aggressive about movies you don't like, something to be cherished.
0:39 he’s not a big fat panda
He’s THE big fat panda
Thanks for this video. I’ve been dealing with the same struggles lately. This is very comforting ❤
This video is poetic i got a kung fu panda 2 book for my 5th birthday which was March 7 and Isaac releases this video 11 years later truly poetic.
Because he was a fatalist who believed that everything was predetermined, and he was right.
Isaac. Years ago, you made a video on Varian and the Seven Kingdoms. At that time, I was so alone and depressed. I had gone six years without writing fanfics. But your video had me do more research and fall in love with the canceled project. So I started writing again.
And then I met the Fandom, found my niche within and I've been so much happier. I have friends, I have feedback, I have passion. And it all started with your video. You helped me claw my way out of a pit. And I hope and pray to the stars you succeed and find happiness like I have. Thank you, thank you and thank you again.
Oh perfect timing since the fourth movie is coming out tomorrow. Now it makes me wonder what if shen had won?
That really interesting and understand of main villain on his personal reasons. I hope he finds inner peace within grave along forgive on myself and his parents too. This video amazing and interesting detailed about it.
I cant imagine what pain shen suffered, i mean imagine being banned from your home town without your parents even caring, damn
Isaac, thank you telling us about your struggles. No matter what, I will continue to support your channel by watching your videos. Since 2017, I have enjoyed watching your Disney, Pixar and Dreamworks content, and I always like rewatching those videos. I see you are passionate with the content you have made, and I loved the content you have put out. However, if you feel stressed, step away from your work, enjoy your life and clear your head
Given where he was when the cannon started falling, he wouldn’t have been able to clear the explosion in time anyway.
Your videos are so amazing I get so excited every time you post something and please take care of yourself 💛
He felt the ghost of his ancestors reminding him about his cars extended warranty
I never fully understood why Shen seemed to be able to take Po down in hand to hand combat. It was explicitly stated that he did not know kung fu, so how was he able to fight multiple masters? It didn't really make sense.
Hey Isaac. I just want to say that you can't let bad or unexpected things in your life crush your dreams and goal, and as for your channel, as along as you do what you do and you enjoy doing it, you're gonna be fine. Count on it. 👍
And for what its worth, I feel the same way too sometimes.
You seem a very good UA-cam Creator my dear❤
Keep going in you're own speed. Just be happy with what you are doing.
Keep beeing happy, love 🎉
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS. They're all very well thought out and clear, and have you seen kung fu panda 4 yet
Don't give up, Issac Carlson.
2:51 i’ll pray that you don’t end up in the wrong path.
He accepted/believed that death was HIS only path to inner peace.
I completely agree
Hey man, thanks for making this video. I think I needed to hear that
Correction:Po is not a big fat panda he is *the* big fat fat panda
Do this for httyd how all species and populations of dragons all returned to the hidden world and lived under toothlesses rule
I can related to your issues as someone who wants to become a writer in Entertainment, I too become worried about my future when it should just use my talents to bring myself joy and not worried about what others think of my work and the criticism I will receive from the harsh critics. So, thank you.
Did you watch kung fu panda 4 yet? I'm curious about your opinion, cus I have mixed feeling about it. On one side, I'm grateful we got another Po's journey, but on the other side, there's just some inconsistency and retcon that is important enough not to ignore as a long time fans since I was a kid.
Thanks you isaac carlson for another great video
Don’t worry about your dreams and plans and projects, they will be successful and you may not just decide to blow up an entire large cannon of fireworks next to you like Shen from kung fu Panda did.
I understand this more then others..and this video showed me.that i can be better..so thx Isaac.
Keep up the work Isaac C. I love u're vids so very much...!
7:39-7:40 I can't help but to think and feel sad how Wolf Boss was just killed off just like that.
The reason your viewership is declining more than likely has nothing to do with you but mostly it's due to the direction Disney is taking.
we will always be here for you Isaac
Shen already knew he was far too gone to change and turn a new leaf.
Rather than accept change and let go of his actions, he knows it's better to die than live knowing he can never forgive himself or be forgiven of his actions.
And that Po technically did not defeat Shen. As Shen was destroyed by his own creation the cannon.
Shen was unable to move on and find inner peace.
Also people seem to forget about Wolf Boss is lore is Shen's closet friend I believe? I dont remember considering that Shen killed him withour any remorse or emotions especially when the Wolf Boss has seen what Shen has truly become when Shen yelled the order to fire at their own wolf army.
0:37 "He is not a big fat panda , he is the big fat panda"
I think everyone is able to sympathize with Shen and that's why he's such a loved villain and I can't wait to see him in the movie😄😄😄😄😄😄😄😄
“One often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it.”
-Master Oogway
This was my theory before the video
I believe he accepted his fate because he finally saw what the fortune teller said. He knew he couldn’t change what fate had in mind, and that final battle further proved that to him. Because of this, he knew he wouldn’t win, and finally allowed fate to happen.
Your wishes are the dreams that your heart makes Issac 💖 I've watched and enjoyed many of your videos over the years and loved every theory, you've grown up soooo much and you can't be anything but proud of yourself! You've achieved so much already keep going ❤
Great video!
My gosh okay thank you.
I bet he only died so that fans wouldn’t go bananas of how shen is so powerful.
When shen knowed shen was gonna get defeated by a warrior of black and white, I don’t think he only killed the panda’s, because in tai lung’s origin, he was dropped of at the jade palace, same as how po was dropped off at the noodle shop, so shen could’ve also killed tai lung’s parents
Po is 20 years old , Tai lung is 40+ years old! Your theory is interesting but is impossible!
wounds heal and scars fade
yet a wound can't become a scar without healing first
Shen is Shen, you are you're own person in the eyes of Jesus C.
My dude became the mutilated bird I saw on the highway a few days ago
his main weapon got power scaled and he lost his entire warfleet and army, that's why he accepted death
It's interesting how you shared your personal story in the video.
0:38 hes not A big fat panda, hes THE big fat panda
Thank you for posting the video. I hope that Master Shinn finds peace in the Spirit World.
Excellent video.
I came here for something, got smthing else entirely. Stay confident and do what you love bro
Don't worry about anything buddy you are ok!
Keep your head up!
this...this is important.this is also much harder to do when you can't even seem to make your channel start working in the 1st place
I've noticed that, I told myself" when that thing came down, why didn't he just move out of the way...he just stood there"
0:36 you mean THE big fat panda.
I've been asking myself this question literally since I first saw this movie in theaters. I thought he would want to rebuild and come back to get revenge on Po and rule China. I haven't watched the video yet but if I had to guess now. I'd say he was tired, not just physically but emotionally and mentally it's clear throughout the movie. I think he just wanted to rest
Could you do a theory of what happened towards The Soothsayer? After, Kung Fu Panda 2.
0:38 he’s not a big fat panda. He’s THE big fat panda!
Like han once said, life's easy, you make choices and don't look back
Lord Shen: Finally God take me I want it now
I hope, you will be able to continue making videos..."we have to do what we like and to like what we do!" If you think this makes you happy, continue this path...don't let anyone stoping you.
I think deep DEEP down, Shen was disgusted and ashamed with what he had done, and what he had become, but he was too prideful and vain to admit it, even to himself. That's why in that moment of finality of certain death approaching, he finally fully accepted the fact that he was truly a monster that needed to be stopped, and perhaps relieved in a sense that someone was able to put a stop to his madness, and so he accepted his death with dignity.