Posibly He's trying to achieve political goals, Musk is leading far right political groups, just like those who rioted in UK recently, that were, according to investigations organized through "X".
Fabio forgot to mention the most important point. Elon fired all of X Brazilian employees and refused to nominate a legal representative for his company in Brazil. That can't happen. Any company needs to have a person who would respond for any legal action. How come nobody mention that?
@@talkingleds correct @wastedtalentusa he is willing to have a legal personal to be arrested .... Starlink has nothing to do with X and now he is attacking Ellons companies, on this war, the ones that loose are the population that has nothing to do with that
I am Brazilian and I am glad to see that anyone who disrespects my people and my country will face consequences. Elon Musk is not above Brazilian constitution!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷
It’s funny, ‘cause in Europe, Australia and Saudi Arabia, he never said anything about. But, in Brazil, it’s censorship… he just want power and doesn’t care about freedom of speech. In Brazil there are laws. Respect it.
@@jls1313 in EU laws prohibit illegal activities on social media, such as talk of insurrection, like was going on in Brazil. In Saudi Arabia you go directly to jail for long long time. In Brazil, you get $9,000 fine. Muskrat would not shut it down, so he got banned.
Well, that's just not true. He said clearly - we are going to preserve freedom of speech as much as the country's laws allow us to do. The problem in Brazil is the Supreme's Court 'Judge' doesn't follow their own country's constitution. So.. if you want the Brazils law respected, you should aim your grievances at the said judge.
@@Kourfed Elon "You will be banned for saying the word 'cis'" Musk, the man who harassed and banned journalists who spoke out against him, who fired workers for *mentioning* unions, is going to "preserve freedom of speech"?
Right wing in Brazil hates alexandre and lula and they are spreading everywhere that is censorship just like musk, that's why musk chose to fight with the law in Brazil
What a bunch of lies. Brazilian law is very clear about not allowing the ban of accounts. According to our law, a platform can only ban posts IF it gives enough substantiation. Our constitution is very clear about free speech, and it is one of our fundamental rights. This judge has been sending emails to the platforms to ban lists of names of users that are complaining about his illegal decisions. In those Emails he doesn't give ANY reason for why he is banning those users as the law determines, he only orders the platform to pretend to the user that his ban is an internal decision of the platform (he doesn't want his name to appear because he knows it is illegal). He has been clearly censoring the opposition because we have elections next month. So twitter faced a hard decision, or he acts according to the Brazilian law OR he obeys the judge that has been breaking the law for the last 3 years. He chose the first and had to take all his employees from Brazil because the judge wanted to arrest them to force twitter to obey his censorship orders. It's sad to see a video like this full of disinformation, I hope it's not intentional..
It is the confirmation of human stupidity or cognitive parallax, promoted by the Brazilian judiciary, which means that, in addition to harming thousands of citizens, it also harms itself.
learn to read: "As of April 2023, at least 34 out of 50 states have announced or enacted bans on state government agencies, employees, and contractors using TikTok on government-issued devices. State bans only affect government employees and do not prohibit civilians from having or using the app on their personal devices."
@@smkh2890 Liars. The Law determines that the application be sold to a non-Chinese operator. According to the approved project, ByteDanc is required to sell TikTok's US operation to a company outside China. If this does not happen within nine months, the law provides that the app will be banned from the country's app stores and servers.
Brazil can and WILL shut him down, if you’ve done business internationally, you would understand, Brazil is an extremely powerful country under THEIR OWN laws
He don't agree with censorship but he already censored his workers to speak their grievances to the public.. He don't like the problem but he is the one that cause it. If only he was fair to his workers. They don't even need to unionize in the first place.
Stop lying. He fired workers who tried to take over his company. Even the other workers wanted them gone. Plus he's NOT A GOVERNMENT. He's a private business owner. Do you not know what freedom of speech is? It's against GOVERNMENT censorship.
except it is not censorship at all. Freedom of speech is limited in every country. Brazil's Constitution and law ban criminal use of speech such as defamation, incitement of violence, incitement of coup and other criminal activities. Let us be accurate and call things by their name. Enforcing the law is not censorship and abusing the internet to incite violence and coups against democracy is NOT "freedom of speech". And billionaires aren't above the law.
@@gMLbn8unEMKv2FzhrEBAjLgrHtNQjU I'm not even talking about Brazil. I'm only talking about Elon Musk. Brazil is another issue. Do you really know how Musk treat his ordinary workers?.
Brazil is under a dictatorship, the only free speech platform was X and they banned it for it. All others censor illegally, violating Brazil's Constitution, Elon was respecting the law, thats why they made these criminal orders that violate every law in the book.
Please look for the truth… all this fight reason is exactly the opposite of this professor is saying. Alexandre de Morais is creating his own law, and no following the constitution at all!
@@gabrielc.2177 No, several social media companies are gone from Brazil. Even Meta was banned for a few years once and they love censorship. Enjoy socialist internet
@@MarcoRodriguesZ não gosto de togados, mas gosto menos ainda de bilionário inútil. Então, fera, o único mamador aqui é você. Poolteenha dos States e do Musk.
Exactly. Mr. Bullying is closing hundreds of X accounts in India and Turkey, by those governments requests in countries with very dubious democracies and open repression, you can imagine why.
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
Why are you people all against free speech? Why do you want authoritarianism overreach? Why do you want the arbiter of truth to be government? Do you not see the corruption and desire for government to silence anything anti establishment?
@@concilium1 If free speech almost exclusively means letting hatred become an institution of life, then not expecting stiff resistance can only be viewed as narcissistic dogmatism, symptomatic of clinical insanity.
I'm Brazilian and I think never, never, could existe billionaires in the world because they don't keep their money in the Bank. They try to manipulate people, countries and governars. It's about my and yor freedom.
It is the confirmation of human stupidity or cognitive parallax, promoted by the Brazilian judiciary, which means that, in addition to harming thousands of citizens, it also harms itself.
No, Elon Musk is a petty man. You have a left wing government so all of sudden he is a "free speech absolutist". Notice with right wing governments of India, and Turkiye, Elon Musk has no problems banning twitter accounts they want.
this is not true. Elon Musk is refusing to break brazilian law which defends freedom of speech, and Alexandre de Moraes is censoring people on social media.
I’m Brazilian and was a daily user of X until it got banned. Despite enjoying the social media platform and benefiting from it professionally, I can't help but blame Musk solely for the situation. Our Supreme Court is merely following the law.
@@trizzztv6996 All companies must have a legal and financial representative in Brazil. All national and foreign companies are under this obligation here. Our Supreme Court ordered Musk to appoint a new legal and financial representative (Musk extinguished these positions a few weeks ago) and he refused. The same law applies for foreigner companies in the US, Brazilian companies included.
@@zorak964 we are protected in the US and have freedom of speech. If you enjoy censored speech then why do you comment in videos or comment on anything at all for that matter?
Very simple. Mr. Musk think he can go to countries and violate its laws. No, he can’t. All Brazil is asking is to Mr.Musk to have a representative from his office in the country and pay his fees. That’s all.
Musk is following the law in Brazil. The judge and this authoritarian government wants to silence people it disagrees with. It wants to be the arbiter of truth like the government in 1984 novel. Free speech must be protected. Disinformation is so bored a topic that what is disinformation could be true or not. Take corruption for instance. What if someone says this Brazil judge got kickbacks financially? Is thT misinformation?
if a brazilian national does anything illegal, he should be arrested. What brazilian government wants is to shut down people....... censorship is what it is. Apparently this senator did nothing illegal
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
@@dimiranda Companies should never be bigger than the elected government. The sooner they learn this the better. Follow the rules or get lost, whether it's a developing country or a developed country. Can't bully and do whatever companies want.
@@normalhuman6260Elon just showed all the election fraud Lula committed and now he's pissed. Lula is the absolute worst president/dictator in the history of Brazil
@@dimirandaim nd Indian too nd I support what Brazil did countries to follow suit..... 2nd I have no idea about Brazilian laws but one thing I know is that no country in world has law to ban social media...right 3rd when people use this very social media apps to spread hate misinformation nd a riot starts it's duty of that company to follow the order of the country nd remove the accounts of people who were involved in it....if u don't do that ur disrespecting my law.
@@dimirandaI was always supported Democracy nd other things but this years the amount of toxicity which spreading it's insane nd have taken back sit no more advocacy..... For me development, infrastructure, living condition, affordable food r prime, enough no more shouting for all this divisive things
@Harrock so become authoritarian and dictate what everyone is allowed to see and speak? I'm sure that won't be abused at all, hahaha. Why don't you just combat "hate and conspiracy" with your freedom of speech. Should be easy if you actually understand what your saying and not some little childish, illogical pawn.
@@peterfyal4998 it has nothing to do with Controll or dictatorship ... why is everyone Thinking that ? I am german we dont have a "Freedom of Speech" law but have a a law called "Meinungsfreiheit" wich means "Freedom of Opinion" ... so you can have every Opinion you want... no one is gonna put you in jail for that . BUT if you spread out false claims , Hatred or Twisting wrong Facts for news you will held accountable for that ! The personal Right of people is over your so called "Freedom of Speech" . But on the Internet everyone can spread missinformation and thats dangerous ! Just look what happened to the storm on the Capitol ! I dont want any of This in germany .... so A platform need to be responsable for what their uses post and shut them down if they post stuff that hurting someone elses Rights ! That has nothing to do with cencorship
X supports hate speech and coups d'état in Brazil. But its operation has been suspended because it has no legal representatives in Brazil. It wants to do business without paying taxes or being subject to Brazilian law. Furthermore, Brazilian law, in accordance with international agreements promoted by the US since 2001 to combat organized crime and terrorism, allows companies in the same group to be penalized if another company in the group breaks the law.
@Harrock if you're talking about Jan 6th, then you have fallen for misinformation from the state. People like you are the problem, you can't think for yourselves and have a reliance in the state. It's harder and more time-consuming to think for yourself, and it's more depressing knowing the truth most of the time, but it's better than living in in lies and delusion.
A mesma constituição que obriga a gente a votar? Claro. Tú tens que admitir, na votação, ela é falha! Ainda bem que na maior parte do mundo é facultativo.
"It wasn't just one judge; four other Supreme Court judges also voted for the suspension of X. A company that doesn't have a legal representative in Brazil cannot operate here. Even though he is a billionaire, he cannot disrespect the laws and the sovereignty of a country."
@@Eduard.Popa. Like the type of limits the USA placed on Julian Assange for exposing their corrupt dealings and nature??? that type of limitation right?? like Epstein list not being released, those type of limits??? The fact is your defending a corrupt government who has brainwashed you into thinking their political witch-hunt in the name of censorship is justified... it isn't. and another thing, the elite and world governments created this problem of free speech vs censorship on purpose, as they knew it's an issue that would divide the masses like its doing... then the time will come when the majority will vote in favor of censorship (by choice) and that will be the end of democracy. The governments and the elite create these problems on purpose and then come out as saviours with the solutions, solutions that will take our God given freedom away. just study history mate, it always repeats itself.
@@blindade1 free speech under Brazilian law is indeed a right not "God-given" but enshrined in our Constitution, but, like any other right, people that exert it can be held responsible and legally liable for the consequences of said speech. It is NOT an "absolute" right, like some people think, confusing it with First Ammendment to the American constitution (even in the US it is NOT absolute, there is a limit to free speech - the proverbial 'shouting fire in a crowded theater').
I'm sure if Turkey or Hungary was asking Musk to take an account down, he would oblige in a flash. After all the man has taken down Ukraine Starlink service in the middle of a critical battle, I'm sure Putin had nothing to do with that.
That is not what was asked by Brazil. They wanted to silence political leaders and people who disagree with government. They also wanted it done without saying it came from the Supreme Court Judge. It was not about doxing or threats of violence which are already against tos.
@@josephnolan8217 The accounts werent of politicians, they were of private citizens under the imvestiagtions of crimes. It was under a country wide imvestiagtion so it needed to be made confidentially like federal investiagtions on private citizens usually are
@@kunalsingh4418 I dont have time to educate you. All things come down to money, power, or control. Brazil Supreme court judge is overstepping his authority and is working with current government he sympathizes with. They wanted to be able to control speech and threaten compliance of accounts that were oppositional to the current government. Nothing I just said is not true. They are using flimsy escuse to ban x so they can better control the narrative. x has continuously reported on corruption of brazillian government. Do you think that judge really cares about the people, he is out for himself and for power, money and control. He should be stopped by any freedom loving people.
@@jdazzaniit was both, but politicians are more prominent for their status. Remember Brazil is one of those countries that jailed the leader of the opposition simply because he wasn't establishment, so they made some retarded interpretation of the law to get him.
Well, that's Musk and X's own fault. I fell sorry for the users, but they should be blaming him, not the Supreme Court. It's like if an airline doesn't follow the rules and gets shut down by the regulatory agency, it's not the agency's problem if a bunch of people had tickets purchased.
As a Brazilian who does *not* support the current government, I want to make this clear: *This is NOT censorship*. In Brazil, everyone is free to speak their mind, including criticism of the government or the supreme court, as long as it doesn't involve crimes like racism, coup advocacy, or disinformation (which are clearly defined in our laws). X and Elon Musk fled the country to avoid complying with decisions from the supreme court and to evade legal obligations the company still holds here. Lastly, what is happening in Brazil is entirely unrelated to situations in Iran in 2009 or Venezuela recently. This is not the action of an authoritarian government; the ban was ordered by the Judiciary, not the Executive, in response to legal violations. If anyone tells you this is about censorship or dictatorship, *know that is false*.
@@AnonymousBluePentem o direito de falar o que quiser coleguinha, só não seja criminoso... Se você é daqueles que gostam de espalhar mentiras na internet e o relho come no lombo, assuma as consequencias de seus atos
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
Why do you want authoritarianism? Why do you want judges to silence accounts without knowledge to the people? Why do you hate free speech? Have you read 1984? Do you know that disinformation could be government corruption? Why do you hate your people?
@@vini5015BTW Justice Morais decides what is true and false ! He is taking down all tbe liars. Great to have someone who absolutely knows what truth is. No one will say any more lies ... only true information so everyone will have the same opinion. Only Truth
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
Exactly. ’m Brazilian and was a daily user of X until it got banned. Despite enjoying the social media platform and benefiting from it professionally, I can't help but blame Musk solely for the situation. Our Supreme Court is merely following the law.
Haha, he is in for a long, long wait. Brazilians won't revolt for X. If it was WhatsApp or Facebook, a lot of noise would happen. He is trying to further his far-right agenda where anything goes.
Money is not above the rule of law here in Brazil. Our life won´t change at all because of a pampered narcissistic billionaire has decided to act with utter disregard for our Country. He is going to feel the real weight of law. Our institutions and our democracy will prevail.
I am Brazilian too and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it?
@@haleytakamura6772Billionaires get to do that now. And they bribe politicians to do their bidding. So in many countries we already see that kind of govt.
You have no idea what are you talking about. It is not about that at all. Ther court orders are mostly ilegal. There has been persecution and violation of several human rights in the country in the past years. If you have any understanding of the rule of law and are familiar with the political situation in Brazil you would be ashamed of your post.
@@damham5689 The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
You're not standing up to the billionaires by closing down an entire social media platform for everybody. That's collective punishment and affects regular people.
@@vini5015space Karen closed twitter's office in Brazil, and under Brazilian law they must stop doing business in the country until they have a representative back here. I hope they are gone for good. It is an awful platform.
So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it?
You have no idea what are you talking about. It is not about that at all. Ther court orders are mostly ilegal. There has been persecution and violation of several human rights in the country in the past years. If you have any understanding of the rule of law and are familiar with the political situation in Brazil you would be ashamed of your post.
@@acam3390 NO you don't have a clue. Musk has already helped the US government overthrow one government in Latin America and is still trying in Venezuela. Musk is anti-free speech, look what he's doing to Palestinian journalists, he's blocking them for their free speech. X is a danger to foreign governments globally and if x is not following local laws they can leave. Do you think he should be manipulating foreign governments???
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
As far as I'm aware freedom of speech is protected under the Constitution 🙄 But you leftists will rationalize everything to keep your delusion afloat won't you
𝕏 FOLLOWS LAW. Always. The judge is corrupt - just wants to hold onto power. 🤷🏻♀️ Oldest & dumbest story in the world. 😏 Free People - win. Dictators - come to nothing. ❤️🕊️𝕏🌎❤️
Guys, I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
@@pedrogabrielduarte4544 He's obviously not European. We must start to rebuild our own infrastructure regarding social media. This is just brainwashing and conditioning platforms at this point that aren't doing any good for us as a collective. Away with foreign interests on our soil, if we had done that already there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine.
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
My account was banned without me even posting anything. I just had it to see what's going on and I can't appeal it. No loss to me here, but X isn't always as invested in allowing everyone on their platform as they are when it comes to protecting "right wing voices".
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it? 😳
For those who don't understand why the accounts had to be taken down, In Brazil it is forbidden to spread lies and misinformation for political purposes. It's not a matter of censorship, it is a matter of justice and compliance, that Mr Musk is not immune to just because he's rich.
There are no regulations whatsoever that apply to this. Alexandre does nothing about gambling sites or telephone access in prisons. It's clearly a matter of politics.
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
Thank God you guys brought Dr. Sá e Silva and Dr. Nemer... So everyone can at least get a glimpse of the political context involved in this. There’s no censorship in this situation-it's just Elon Musk 'musking it' abroad again.
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
You do know Brazil has aligned itself with the Russians and the Chinese since Lula took over. He’s not a liberal, he’s aligning Brazil with authoritarian regimes against Brazil’s traditional allies like America which is why they are targeting X. the opposition has used it to organise.
There many controversies regarding the legality of Justice Moraes orders. First of all many of the inquiries that motivate the X suspension were started with out any provocation from the Prosecutor Office, which is excepcional and only allowed in a specific situation where the Supreme Court itself is in danger. Some inquiries are lasting years (one of those was iniciated on 2019), which is forbidden by Brazilian law (an inquiry must last 180 days, being allowed extensions, but not infinite). Brazilian constitution forbids censorship, the "Marco Civil da Internet" (Internet regulation law) allows the removal of content but it must be preciselly identified (there must be a link in the judicial order), but Justice Moraes is asking for the suspension of profiles (which is preemptive censorship), even worse, all orders are under judicial secrecy, so the owner of such suspended profile receives no notification and is not informed of the judicial order (the orders that X received forbids the platform to inform the owner of the suspended account of the order of suspension itself). This goes on and on ...
I'm not Brazilian, but I'm happy that Brazil had the stones to do this and put Elon Musk in his place. Way to go Brazil. If any company wants to operate in a country, they HAVE to comply with the law of that country, Elon is used to have a Yes, or to bend things to get the Yes. He has to learn that he ain't above the law.
Good. Companies need to follow the law of the country they do business in. Just like foreign country companies need to follow our laws. This is not rocket science folks.
Very well explained by Fabio and David! Basically, you can agree or disagree with justice, but you must follow the country laws if you want to make business on it, no matter how much money you have.
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
@@rererep1109 I've spent quite some time on this to know what I'm talking about. -Brasil law requires you to have a representative in the country to do business there. -X does not, and officially said they would not follow that law. -Then they did not show up at the trial. Can you name a country or judge, where they would have been found innocent ?
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it? 😳
@@thepax2621 you don't deserve free speech or any of the rights given to you. You advocate for censorship and silencing of people. They will come for you one day if you do not fight for others.
Guys, I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
There is an aspect that analyst Fabio da Silva overlooked: Brazilian law, specifically the so-called "Marco Civil da Internet" (Law 12.965 of 2014), requires internet providers to have a representative on Brazilian soil in order to operate. By closing his office in Brazil, Elon Musk voluntarily puts himself in a position of being unable to operate, while also attempting to avoid paying debts to the Brazilian government. In fact, this last point was what enabled the enforcement of legislation affecting Starlink. In Brazil, companies in the same "de facto economic group," meaning with the same controlling entity, are jointly liable for debts owed to the state and other creditors. It is worth noting that Brazilian employees laid off by X complained that not all severance payments required by Brazilian law were fully paid, at least initially. The democratic Brazilian government has effective means to handle claims and disagreements, which do not involve disobedience to laws or judicial decisions.
X was not banned from Brazil, but suspended. It will resume operations when it complies with Brazilian laws. In Brazil, freedom of expression does not mean freedom to be complicit or commit crimes.
@@caraqualquer9907 now they don't have any representative but the root cause is censorship. Don't try to derail the real topic. It's like if you crash your car into me, I sue you but you don't appoint a lawyer to represent you. Ok but what about the crash in the first place?
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
The issue was not those accounts but those of political rivals of the current government by a judge and x was requested to do it without telling the people publicly. Why would people want this fly by night judge and silencing of political opposition.
@@josephnolan8217 You have no more information then I do, that's your opinion. Elon is a right-wing racists who loves bad actors so the last people I would take advice from is him or you. Elon has destroyed Twitter buy making it a platform for extremest losers who can't handle people they can't compete with unless they are subjugated. This is an example of a country letting him know who is boss and it's not Elon.
@@ChaosTheAngels not sure what you mean. Many people do not like the suppression of speech. The left has been very much in favor of canceling people, censoring people, and enacting very draconian laws on speech.
The guy just forgot to mention that the judge has not been respecting the legal process in Brazil, not mentioning that he issued an order "via X" which is the most bizarre thing ever. A judge must be Immune to the stupidity of a spoiled billionaire and immune to a personal vendetta, and this is not happening.
"he issued an order "via X"" . That's because X no longer has a legal representation in Brazil, wich according to the law (Marco Civil da Internet), it's ilegal. A foreign company cannot operate in Brazil without having a legal representention here to hold accountability for its actions.
Don’t be confused. The Law is one thing, the judges order is another (and it’s illegal). This “Brazilian specialist” is wrong because the law and Constitution is one thing. What this judge is doing is another… what he did hasn’t any legal provision in Brasil and is clearly politically biased as even the mainstream media already acknowledged. X indicated that it was willing to comply with the law, what X refused to was complying with this judge’s unlawful orders (censorship and prosecution of people without any criminal proof). That is it.
This judge (Moraes) is the one not following the law and the constitution. Musk refused to comply because Moraes' requests were unconstitutional. It's as simple as that. Check out Glen Grenwald's work to understand what's going on in Brazil. Greenwald is a left-leaning journalist, by the way, in case that matters to you.
Stop sucking up to a Billionaire trying to meddle with a country's politics and economics to his own benefit. By what i see, this decision was very much within the law and not above it as you imply here.
it's funny how people that are not judges, judging the decision of a judge based on their beliefs of what is correct or not, and nothing will happen because they aren't judges themselves.
Because they're from the same company group. X denied to follow the decisions of Brazil's Supreme Court, its not paying fines for non-compliance with court decisions and not appointing a legal representative in Brazil.
Acho bem engraçado a Direita do Brasil se fazer de vítima e tomar a postura do menino mimado Moska, que para lembrar a maioria esmagadora nem sequer tinha ou sabia o que era X no Brasil rsrs, mas essa briga não é sobre Moska para estrema direita no Brasil e sim, sobre o Alexandre de Morais, que não se alinha aos seus interesses de ditadura e de destruir o Brasil, esse é realmente o Brasil que vivemos, onde todas as decisões são criticadas para e existe a perseguição desses povos extremistas da direita, para criticar qualquer coisa que o Alexandre de Morais, Lula ou o PT façam e validar o seu delírio coletivo que estavam certo e deveriam ter destruído os três poderes, mas mesmo e transformado o país em uma ditadura com os militares super corruptos e as milícias no Brasil.
In places like EU and China he has even more strict laws, I wonder why is he trying to impose in Brasil.
Brazil's laws are free speech, they are being censored illegally, this is an illegal censorship hurting Brazilians.
He thinks he's Kissinger in the 70's
Doing coups in Latin America as he sees fit
Expect Elon can't even do a truck that trucks properly
If it works, he can move to the next targets. An experiment
Posibly He's trying to achieve political goals, Musk is leading far right political groups, just like those who rioted in UK recently, that were, according to investigations organized through "X".
And he followed the same thing Brazil asked for India and China. He is just aiming for desestabilization for personal insterest.
Fabio forgot to mention the most important point. Elon fired all of X Brazilian employees and refused to nominate a legal representative for his company in Brazil.
That can't happen. Any company needs to have a person who would respond for any legal action. How come nobody mention that?
@@talkingleds correct @wastedtalentusa he is willing to have a legal personal to be arrested .... Starlink has nothing to do with X and now he is attacking Ellons companies, on this war, the ones that loose are the population that has nothing to do with that
@@talkingleds maybe he should not break the law then lol
@@talkingleds cant believe in my eyes
@@talkingleds u know that the problem is Elon Musk REFUSED TO INDICATE A REPRESENTATIVE ON BRAZIL RIGHT?
@@talkingleds u should read Brazil's Law before talking stuff like that
American law doesnt apply outside the u.s. many americans dont understand that.
@@fspg3207 But he is South African, he just moved to the US. Like Rupert Murdoch who is Australian, but lives in the US.
But when its Venezuela, u start crying
It's his interpretation of American law.
@@jodyblackmore2300 He came to the US illegally at that...
You think Apartheid Clyde is acting based on US law? lmao
I'm Brazilian and a large part of us had already been moving to another platform for a few months. X is toxic
For dose who doesn't want to see or live the true! Como você !
I am Brazilian and I am glad to see that anyone who disrespects my people and my country will face consequences. Elon Musk is not above Brazilian constitution!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷
Very nice. You are very smart 👏🏻👏🏻
Bluesky
I'm Brazilian and I believe that the country is becoming fascist.
It’s funny, ‘cause in Europe, Australia and Saudi Arabia, he never said anything about. But, in Brazil, it’s censorship… he just want power and doesn’t care about freedom of speech.
In Brazil there are laws. Respect it.
@@jls1313 in EU laws prohibit illegal activities on social media, such as talk of insurrection, like was going on in Brazil. In Saudi Arabia you go directly to jail for long long time. In Brazil, you get $9,000 fine. Muskrat would not shut it down, so he got banned.
Well, that's just not true. He said clearly - we are going to preserve freedom of speech as much as the country's laws allow us to do. The problem in Brazil is the Supreme's Court 'Judge' doesn't follow their own country's constitution. So.. if you want the Brazils law respected, you should aim your grievances at the said judge.
@@Kourfed Elon "You will be banned for saying the word 'cis'" Musk, the man who harassed and banned journalists who spoke out against him, who fired workers for *mentioning* unions, is going to "preserve freedom of speech"?
Right wing in Brazil hates alexandre and lula and they are spreading everywhere that is censorship just like musk, that's why musk chose to fight with the law in Brazil
What a bunch of lies.
Brazilian law is very clear about not allowing the ban of accounts. According to our law, a platform can only ban posts IF it gives enough substantiation. Our constitution is very clear about free speech, and it is one of our fundamental rights.
This judge has been sending emails to the platforms to ban lists of names of users that are complaining about his illegal decisions. In those Emails he doesn't give ANY reason for why he is banning those users as the law determines, he only orders the platform to pretend to the user that his ban is an internal decision of the platform (he doesn't want his name to appear because he knows it is illegal). He has been clearly censoring the opposition because we have elections next month.
So twitter faced a hard decision, or he acts according to the Brazilian law OR he obeys the judge that has been breaking the law for the last 3 years. He chose the first and had to take all his employees from Brazil because the judge wanted to arrest them to force twitter to obey his censorship orders.
It's sad to see a video like this full of disinformation, I hope it's not intentional..
Congratulations Brazil! 👏👏👏🇧🇷✊
It is the confirmation of human stupidity or cognitive parallax, promoted by the Brazilian judiciary, which means that, in addition to harming thousands of citizens, it also harms itself.
@@0misteryUniwhy?
@@0misteryUniwhat harm? 😂😂
@@0misteryUni
R u ok?
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US banned Tik Tok in the USA, no? Well, Brazil can ban Twitter/X in Brazil too! :)
learn to read: "As of April 2023, at least 34 out of 50 states have announced or enacted bans on state government agencies, employees, and contractors using TikTok on government-issued devices. State bans only affect government employees and do not prohibit civilians from having or using the app on their personal devices."
@@smkh2890 Yeah, that's a ban, dude. Ban. Learn to read AND comprehend things properly. There's no partial bans. Ban is a ban.
@@Just_another_Euro_dude no TikTok on government phones. There’s no ban on TikTok for you to use your own media to access it!
@@smkh2890 Liars. The Law determines that the application be sold to a non-Chinese operator. According to the approved project, ByteDanc is required to sell TikTok's US operation to a company outside China. If this does not happen within nine months, the law provides that the app will be banned from the country's app stores and servers.
Brazil can and WILL shut him down, if you’ve done business internationally, you would understand, Brazil is an extremely powerful country under THEIR OWN laws
Does Elon accept X's ban in China as well? Why isn't he as vocal about that?
People are mostly vocal about changes not about Status Quo...
He also supports censorship on X in Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Tesla
But everybody was all in for sovereign countries regulating foreign social networks. Remember tiktok stuff?
He needs to cozy up to the Chinese government because he wants to keep selling his EVs there.
I am South African and I am very happy with this decision. Let other countries follow the Brazilian example.
@@gandralf Yea bro, and this is the big problem of our "democracy"
@@gandralf🐄🐄🐄
@@gandralflie
Totally agreed. Brazil made the right choice.
You’re a supporter of dystopian tyranny.
He don't agree with censorship but he already censored his workers to speak their grievances to the public..
He don't like the problem but he is the one that cause it.
If only he was fair to his workers. They don't even need to unionize in the first place.
And he has banned pro Palestinians from x. Musk is a tyrant.
Stop lying. He fired workers who tried to take over his company. Even the other workers wanted them gone. Plus he's NOT A GOVERNMENT. He's a private business owner. Do you not know what freedom of speech is? It's against GOVERNMENT censorship.
except it is not censorship at all. Freedom of speech is limited in every country. Brazil's Constitution and law ban criminal use of speech such as defamation, incitement of violence, incitement of coup and other criminal activities. Let us be accurate and call things by their name. Enforcing the law is not censorship and abusing the internet to incite violence and coups against democracy is NOT "freedom of speech". And billionaires aren't above the law.
@@jdgoesham5381 do you really know something about his company's policies?
You should do research before talking non-sense..
@@gMLbn8unEMKv2FzhrEBAjLgrHtNQjU I'm not even talking about Brazil.
I'm only talking about Elon Musk.
Brazil is another issue.
Do you really know how Musk treat his ordinary workers?.
X needs to keep its nose out of Brazilian politics.
Brazil is under a dictatorship, the only free speech platform was X and they banned it for it. All others censor illegally, violating Brazil's Constitution, Elon was respecting the law, thats why they made these criminal orders that violate every law in the book.
Please look for the truth… all this fight reason is exactly the opposite of this professor is saying. Alexandre de Morais is creating his own law, and no following the constitution at all!
@@ednacox8314
Stop lying, there is a law that states that a foreign company cannot operate in Brazil without a legal representative.
@@caraqualquer9907 An internet site is not a "company" it doesn't need to have a legal representative, don't talk about things you don't know about.
@@ednacox8314 😂😂😂👉🐮
Other countries should follow Brazil ...
Amén.
@@russmian6078 no thanks, I like having a relatively low crime rate
Should follow in everything? No way!!!
@@michaelcantu6071 europeus roubaram o Brasil. A desigualdade é culpa de vocês.
Elon, Brazil is not your backyard. Respect its laws.
Respect free speech
@@Chillaxin1844 In Brazil all the other social media are still working, and you can still express your ideas 😅 don't be so dramatic
@@gabrielc.2177 No, several social media companies are gone from Brazil. Even Meta was banned for a few years once and they love censorship.
Enjoy socialist internet
Nowhere on Earth should be anybody's backyard. However Brazil and laws? Does Brazil even know what (laws) mean?
@@Chillaxin1844Not when that speech promotes hate speech, political lies to discredit the election system and fascist groups.
In Brazil we don’t support billionaire criminous. X needs respect our laws.
THere are no laws in Brazil supporting censorship, the law in BRazil is free speech, these judges are criminals.
awesome
no one cares about brazil djow
This video being made is the proof people do @@nholmes86
@@nholmes86 no problem. Keep walking 🚶!
Im Brazilian and i totally agree with the decision. Mr. Musk can do his mess in other place.
X was persecuted for following Brazilian legislation and not obeying the illegal censorship orders of a supreme court minister
MaMadOr de togados detectado kkkkkkk
@@MarcoRodriguesZ não gosto de togados, mas gosto menos ainda de bilionário inútil. Então, fera, o único mamador aqui é você. Poolteenha dos States e do Musk.
He tries to circumvent laws in Sweden too. Union-related. Seems to me that he dislikes when people have rights or when he can't do what he wants.
Exactly. Mr. Bullying is closing hundreds of X accounts in India and Turkey, by those governments requests in countries with very dubious democracies and open repression, you can imagine why.
@@forgotten_worldBecause he's a narcissist. Narcissists love dictatorships.
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
@@devilsfavorite999 All the countries mentioned are authoritarian, including Brazil. Why would he only comply with some of them?
Why are you people all against free speech? Why do you want authoritarianism overreach? Why do you want the arbiter of truth to be government? Do you not see the corruption and desire for government to silence anything anti establishment?
I am brazilian and I am very happy with the decision.
Same here. “Dura lex sed lex”
Petista...
Me too.
🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂
Me too
The world should follow!
Sad, propagated, dystopian nightmare is what you’re supporting.
@@concilium1 If free speech almost exclusively means letting hatred become an institution of life, then not expecting stiff resistance can only be viewed as narcissistic dogmatism, symptomatic of clinical insanity.
motherless
For Sure ❤❤❤❤
So which superstate do you want to belong to, Oceana, Eurasia, or EastAsia?
I'm Brazilian and I think never, never, could existe billionaires in the world because they don't keep their money in the Bank. They try to manipulate people, countries and governars. It's about my and yor freedom.
Talking about my freedom... I want to use it to access Twitter.
Guess I'm not free anymore.
It is the confirmation of human stupidity or cognitive parallax, promoted by the Brazilian judiciary, which means that, in addition to harming thousands of citizens, it also harms itself.
No, Elon Musk is a petty man. You have a left wing government so all of sudden he is a "free speech absolutist". Notice with right wing governments of India, and Turkiye, Elon Musk has no problems banning twitter accounts they want.
@@marcosmarques9228 cry louder
@@0misteryUni nobody cares about twitter and it's bots, that cesspool should have been shut down years ago.
Really interesting to see a guy that just has a lot of money to think that he is above the law on a foreign country 😅
this is not true. Elon Musk is refusing to break brazilian law which defends freedom of speech, and Alexandre de Moraes is censoring people on social media.
Siiiiimmm
Brazil has more courage than most nations👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾
Just like China, Russia and North Korea.
@@goyakat2211
Sim,Coragem para se Opor a Hegemonia Ocidental(Americana/Europeia)
🇷🇺🫱🏻🫲🏼🇧🇷🤝🇨🇳🤜🏻🇺🇸
Right
@@goyakat2211 Being a bully is not courage. Standing up to one is.
@@LG-ct8tw and who is the bully in this case? Most likely Moraes.
I’m Brazilian and was a daily user of X until it got banned. Despite enjoying the social media platform and benefiting from it professionally, I can't help but blame Musk solely for the situation. Our Supreme Court is merely following the law.
how is x the issue here?
@@trizzztv6996 All companies must have a legal and financial representative in Brazil. All national and foreign companies are under this obligation here. Our Supreme Court ordered Musk to appoint a new legal and financial representative (Musk extinguished these positions a few weeks ago) and he refused.
The same law applies for foreigner companies in the US, Brazilian companies included.
@@zorak964 still censorship
@@trizzztv6996 So if I open a company in the US, break the Law and as response get banned from there may I allege censorship? Interesting.
@@zorak964 we are protected in the US and have freedom of speech. If you enjoy censored speech then why do you comment in videos or comment on anything at all for that matter?
I think more countries need to do this
Yes, censorship is the answer.crush free speech
We are a country, not a lawless land. We are not afraid of billionaires who think they are gods.
Could've fooled me.
Exatamente
Isso mesmo. Não quer obedecer nossas leis, vá embora.
quem dera fosse igual aos políticos do nosso pais
You should be afraid of your tyrannical, dystopian impulses.
He is violating Brazilian laws. That's all. And he deserves the block. It’s so simple!
Elon: "I will let people speak their minds"
Brazilian govt: 😡😡🤬🤬
@@1nhofcan you be less R word?
@@felip3442 Imagine hating Elon so much that you'd rather support literal censorship lmao
@@1nhof
There is no censorship, there is a law in Brazil that does not allow foreign companies to operate without a legal representative.
Quem violou às leis brasileiras foram os togados que vc vive mAmAndO.
Brazil showing yhe rest of us how to do it.
@@Nickster292 kkkkk Brazil disrespecting the dictator 🤣🤣🤣
Very simple. Mr. Musk think he can go to countries and violate its laws. No, he can’t. All Brazil is asking is to Mr.Musk to have a representative from his office in the country and pay his fees. That’s all.
Exactly
Soon the EU will be coming after him soon as well
spot on!
Musk is following the law in Brazil. The judge and this authoritarian government wants to silence people it disagrees with. It wants to be the arbiter of truth like the government in 1984 novel. Free speech must be protected. Disinformation is so bored a topic that what is disinformation could be true or not. Take corruption for instance. What if someone says this Brazil judge got kickbacks financially? Is thT misinformation?
if a brazilian national does anything illegal, he should be arrested. What brazilian government wants is to shut down people....... censorship is what it is. Apparently this senator did nothing illegal
When the owner of the company ignored laws and regulations and disregard society safety, their companies should be ban!
Kudos to the Brazilian Supreme Court!
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Yeah Jose obrigado. Aqui nao tem bagunca, aqui tem Xandao.
They are literally criminals, what are you saying?
Parabéns Alexandre de Moraes
Good decision Brazil 🇧🇷. Salute from India 🇮🇳
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
@@dimiranda Companies should never be bigger than the elected government. The sooner they learn this the better. Follow the rules or get lost, whether it's a developing country or a developed country. Can't bully and do whatever companies want.
@@normalhuman6260Elon just showed all the election fraud Lula committed and now he's pissed. Lula is the absolute worst president/dictator in the history of Brazil
@@dimirandaim nd Indian too nd I support what Brazil did countries to follow suit.....
2nd I have no idea about Brazilian laws but one thing I know is that no country in world has law to ban social media...right 3rd when people use this very social media apps to spread hate misinformation nd a riot starts it's duty of that company to follow the order of the country nd remove the accounts of people who were involved in it....if u don't do that ur disrespecting my law.
@@dimirandaI was always supported Democracy nd other things but this years the amount of toxicity which spreading it's insane nd have taken back sit no more advocacy.....
For me development, infrastructure, living condition, affordable food r prime, enough no more shouting for all this divisive things
Finally a Country who has the Balls🙏🏻👍 .... Hate and Conspiracy has nothing to do with "Freedom of speech" ! .... I hope other Countries follow
@Harrock so become authoritarian and dictate what everyone is allowed to see and speak? I'm sure that won't be abused at all, hahaha.
Why don't you just combat "hate and conspiracy" with your freedom of speech. Should be easy if you actually understand what your saying and not some little childish, illogical pawn.
@@peterfyal4998 it has nothing to do with Controll or dictatorship ... why is everyone Thinking that ? I am german we dont have a "Freedom of Speech" law but have a a law called "Meinungsfreiheit" wich means "Freedom of Opinion" ... so you can have every Opinion you want... no one is gonna put you in jail for that . BUT if you spread out false claims , Hatred or Twisting wrong Facts for news you will held accountable for that ! The personal Right of people is over your so called "Freedom of Speech" . But on the Internet everyone can spread missinformation and thats dangerous ! Just look what happened to the storm on the Capitol ! I dont want any of This in germany .... so A platform need to be responsable for what their uses post and shut them down if they post stuff that hurting someone elses Rights ! That has nothing to do with cencorship
X supports hate speech and coups d'état in Brazil. But its operation has been suspended because it has no legal representatives in Brazil. It wants to do business without paying taxes or being subject to Brazilian law. Furthermore, Brazilian law, in accordance with international agreements promoted by the US since 2001 to combat organized crime and terrorism, allows companies in the same group to be penalized if another company in the group breaks the law.
@Harrock if you're talking about Jan 6th, then you have fallen for misinformation from the state. People like you are the problem, you can't think for yourselves and have a reliance in the state.
It's harder and more time-consuming to think for yourself, and it's more depressing knowing the truth most of the time, but it's better than living in in lies and delusion.
Exactly!
Vai respeitar nossa Constituição sim, Musk!
A mesma constituição que obriga a gente a votar? Claro.
Tú tens que admitir, na votação, ela é falha! Ainda bem que na maior parte do mundo é facultativo.
Vc fala isso como se os togados que vc vive mAmAndO respeitasse a constituição kkkkkkkkkkkk que piada, realmente é o poste que mija no cachorro.
"It wasn't just one judge; four other Supreme Court judges also voted for the suspension of X. A company that doesn't have a legal representative in Brazil cannot operate here. Even though he is a billionaire, he cannot disrespect the laws and the sovereignty of a country."
Brazil is right about it.
no it's not, free speech is a God given right and no government should take that away from it's people
@@blindade1 free speech is to say anything you want .... BUT with some limits.
@@Eduard.Popa. Like the type of limits the USA placed on Julian Assange for exposing their corrupt dealings and nature??? that type of limitation right?? like Epstein list not being released, those type of limits???
The fact is your defending a corrupt government who has brainwashed you into thinking their political witch-hunt in the name of censorship is justified... it isn't.
and another thing, the elite and world governments created this problem of free speech vs censorship on purpose, as they knew it's an issue that would divide the masses like its doing... then the time will come when the majority will vote in favor of censorship (by choice) and that will be the end of democracy. The governments and the elite create these problems on purpose and then come out as saviours with the solutions, solutions that will take our God given freedom away. just study history mate, it always repeats itself.
@@blindade1 free speech under Brazilian law is indeed a right not "God-given" but enshrined in our Constitution, but, like any other right, people that exert it can be held responsible and legally liable for the consequences of said speech. It is NOT an "absolute" right, like some people think, confusing it with First Ammendment to the American constitution (even in the US it is NOT absolute, there is a limit to free speech - the proverbial 'shouting fire in a crowded theater').
Your a supporter of dystopian tyranny.
So musk's viewpoint is that he is above the law globally or has the sole right to determine what is and isn't legal speech?
X accepts a lot of requests like this and is documented. He’s not a knight o freedom of speech
I'm sure if Turkey or Hungary was asking Musk to take an account down, he would oblige in a flash. After all the man has taken down Ukraine Starlink service in the middle of a critical battle, I'm sure Putin had nothing to do with that.
He is everything that opposing free speech. Only sheeps doesn't see clear thing like this
It did not accept Moraes' because it's illegal. X cannot commit a crime in another coutry because it's a US based company
The US, UK and other countries should do the same.
Thankfully X has zero relevance in Albania.
Mass censorship?
Yes, just silence absolutely everyone and give the government control over narrative and thought. You people have hollow heads.
X insighted violence led to the UK riot a month ago. That will happen in your country too. Be prepared 🙏
@@fredgarvinMP muskratting!
Shutting down calls for a military coup and taking down posts doxing police officers is not censorship.
That is not what was asked by Brazil. They wanted to silence political leaders and people who disagree with government. They also wanted it done without saying it came from the Supreme Court Judge. It was not about doxing or threats of violence which are already against tos.
@@josephnolan8217 The accounts werent of politicians, they were of private citizens under the imvestiagtions of crimes. It was under a country wide imvestiagtion so it needed to be made confidentially like federal investiagtions on private citizens usually are
@@josephnolan8217 just not true? Why lie
@@kunalsingh4418 I dont have time to educate you. All things come down to money, power, or control. Brazil Supreme court judge is overstepping his authority and is working with current government he sympathizes with. They wanted to be able to control speech and threaten compliance of accounts that were oppositional to the current government. Nothing I just said is not true. They are using flimsy escuse to ban x so they can better control the narrative. x has continuously reported on corruption of brazillian government. Do you think that judge really cares about the people, he is out for himself and for power, money and control. He should be stopped by any freedom loving people.
@@jdazzaniit was both, but politicians are more prominent for their status. Remember Brazil is one of those countries that jailed the leader of the opposition simply because he wasn't establishment, so they made some retarded interpretation of the law to get him.
Well, that's Musk and X's own fault. I fell sorry for the users, but they should be blaming him, not the Supreme Court. It's like if an airline doesn't follow the rules and gets shut down by the regulatory agency, it's not the agency's problem if a bunch of people had tickets purchased.
It's not at all like that. Twitter got shut down because it now respects freedom of speech.
Did they elect that Supreme Court Judge? what gives him the right to tax them for using X?
As a Brazilian who does *not* support the current government, I want to make this clear: *This is NOT censorship*. In Brazil, everyone is free to speak their mind, including criticism of the government or the supreme court, as long as it doesn't involve crimes like racism, coup advocacy, or disinformation (which are clearly defined in our laws). X and Elon Musk fled the country to avoid complying with decisions from the supreme court and to evade legal obligations the company still holds here.
Lastly, what is happening in Brazil is entirely unrelated to situations in Iran in 2009 or Venezuela recently. This is not the action of an authoritarian government; the ban was ordered by the Judiciary, not the Executive, in response to legal violations. If anyone tells you this is about censorship or dictatorship, *know that is false*.
Correct. That's the point
Exatamente, thanks.
He is he puppet of the extreme right shamelessly attacking Latin American democracies.
pode falar o que quiser, menos da careca do Xandinho 😢😢
@@AnonymousBluePentem o direito de falar o que quiser coleguinha, só não seja criminoso... Se você é daqueles que gostam de espalhar mentiras na internet e o relho come no lombo, assuma as consequencias de seus atos
Excellent decision from Brazil
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
Why do you want authoritarianism? Why do you want judges to silence accounts without knowledge to the people? Why do you hate free speech? Have you read 1984? Do you know that disinformation could be government corruption? Why do you hate your people?
yes very good now only the lie will be covered
@@vini5015BTW Justice Morais decides what is true and false ! He is taking down all tbe liars. Great to have someone who absolutely knows what truth is. No one will say any more lies ... only true information so everyone will have the same opinion. Only Truth
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
Nobody is above the law❗👥
Exactly. ’m Brazilian and was a daily user of X until it got banned. Despite enjoying the social media platform and benefiting from it professionally, I can't help but blame Musk solely for the situation. Our Supreme Court is merely following the law.
the judge that inposed the ban is
Musk thinks he is above the law every where. He just gets away wit it here in america. I'm glad to see someone hold him accountable.
He thinks Brazilians are going to revolt and therefore use that to strong arm EU and other governments who may want to ban twitter.
Who even wants to use twitter?
EXACTLY! I Never have and never will - and there are plenty more like me who don’t buy into ANY OF Musk’s BS
@@governormadea5937 that was space Karen's play? Twitter users are afraid of the sun, there's no way they are going to protest for anything.
@@governormadea5937 we are making memes about it up in here.
Haha, he is in for a long, long wait. Brazilians won't revolt for X. If it was WhatsApp or Facebook, a lot of noise would happen. He is trying to further his far-right agenda where anything goes.
Very good X has finally been blocked in Brazil, this is not a Lawless Land. EloMusk is Sovereign here. It is not the backyard of the United States.
He is he puppet of the extreme right shamelessly attacking Latin American democracies.
you sound like Stalin
Para MamAdOres de togados isso realmente é uma coisa boa.
Money is not above the rule of law here in Brazil. Our life won´t change at all because of a pampered narcissistic billionaire has decided to act with utter disregard for our Country. He is going to feel the real weight of law. Our institutions and our democracy will prevail.
I'm Brazilian and I'm really happy with that decision. Bye Elon Musk , you now knowing that your money doesn't mean anything for us and our laws .
You're probably completely fine with Communism taking over your country's government too, aren't you?
👊👊👊👊
So This is how liberty dies, with thundersous of applauses
@@thallesferreira_???????????
I am Brazilian too and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
Yeah, that billionaire privilege apparently doesn't work in Brasil. Time to humble up, Elon 😂
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it?
@@haleytakamura6772Billionaires get to do that now. And they bribe politicians to do their bidding. So in many countries we already see that kind of govt.
You have no idea what are you talking about. It is not about that at all. Ther court orders are mostly ilegal. There has been persecution and violation of several human rights in the country in the past years. If you have any understanding of the rule of law and are familiar with the political situation in Brazil you would be ashamed of your post.
@@damham5689 The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
You're not standing up to the billionaires by closing down an entire social media platform for everybody. That's collective punishment and affects regular people.
If you don’t respect our laws, you’ll be banned.
Laws=/=rulings my friend.
which law does? the constitution clearly prohibit censorship
Maduro e Putin também vivem falando isso, bom saber que você está do lado certo da história.
@@vini5015space Karen closed twitter's office in Brazil, and under Brazilian law they must stop doing business in the country until they have a representative back here. I hope they are gone for good. It is an awful platform.
Your laws to protect lefties politicians to be exposed online? 😂👎🏻
What a pity it's not banned elsewhere.
Dont worry it s coming up
@@franciscouderq1100 Let's hope so!
Well done brazil. Now more countries need to follow.
So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it?
You have no idea what are you talking about. It is not about that at all. Ther court orders are mostly ilegal. There has been persecution and violation of several human rights in the country in the past years. If you have any understanding of the rule of law and are familiar with the political situation in Brazil you would be ashamed of your post.
@@acam3390 NO you don't have a clue. Musk has already helped the US government overthrow one government in Latin America and is still trying in Venezuela. Musk is anti-free speech, look what he's doing to Palestinian journalists, he's blocking them for their free speech. X is a danger to foreign governments globally and if x is not following local laws they can leave. Do you think he should be manipulating foreign governments???
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
People cheering for censorship no matter what you think about these specific cases is what you'd read in 1984 dystopian novels.
If X wants to be ilat Brazil, have to follow the brazilian laws.
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
As far as I'm aware freedom of speech is protected under the Constitution 🙄 But you leftists will rationalize everything to keep your delusion afloat won't you
To bad liberal Brazilian leadership doesn’t obey its own laws.
The Brazilian judicial system doesn't even follow the country's own constitution.
𝕏 FOLLOWS LAW. Always.
The judge is corrupt - just wants to hold onto power.
🤷🏻♀️ Oldest & dumbest story in the world.
😏 Free People - win.
Dictators - come to nothing.
❤️🕊️𝕏🌎❤️
Id appreciate it if Europe banned this as well.
Cmon Europe, you can do it.
@@dimiranda I live in Europe and I think some people are not able or capable of protecting themself for the one or other reason.
Guys, I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
@@ANTheWhizkidwhich european country?
@@pedrogabrielduarte4544 He's obviously not European. We must start to rebuild our own infrastructure regarding social media. This is just brainwashing and conditioning platforms at this point that aren't doing any good for us as a collective. Away with foreign interests on our soil, if we had done that already there wouldn't be a war in Ukraine.
@@dimiranda and X and social media in general contributes to the issues you speak of
Well done Brazil!!
No one is above the law !!👏👏👏
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
😂😂😂😂😂
This judge is the law. He is above Brazil constitution laws apparently 😃
@@geovanagama1 wrong
About time they ban that sh&$t.
My account was banned without me even posting anything. I just had it to see what's going on and I can't appeal it. No loss to me here, but X isn't always as invested in allowing everyone on their platform as they are when it comes to protecting "right wing voices".
That is impossible bozo
same here. Elon cannot be trusted.
@@ralphkatsidis8338 actually, it's not you clwon.
Not so fun now that the shoe is on the other foot, is it? None of you had any objections to Dorsey’s censorship.
@@paladroit is impossible...
Our judge is absolutely right! Well done!
I'm frim Brazil and I'm proud of justice Moraes and President Lula ❤
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it? 😳
@@haleytakamura6772 tf are you talking bout
For those who don't understand why the accounts had to be taken down,
In Brazil it is forbidden to spread lies and misinformation for political purposes.
It's not a matter of censorship, it is a matter of justice and compliance, that Mr Musk is not immune to just because he's rich.
Man that's though!
Rodolfo is a liar. The judge is not respecting the brazilian law.
@@BigusDigus he is respecting the law, x broke the law here so must resolve it in the legal system and as he isn´t doing so x must be punished
è censura sim!
@@rfkrfk não é não!
It’s their country and Musk should comply with that countries rules and regulations.
Or he doesn't comply and they don't get access to the most popular social media platform. And we get all the peace of no Brazilians on X :D
What about you moving to Cuba,China or even Iran.😂🤣
There are no regulations whatsoever that apply to this. Alexandre does nothing about gambling sites or telephone access in prisons. It's clearly a matter of politics.
Twitter was a cesspool even before space Karen, good riddance
never surrender to fascists
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
True
Yes the chief Fascists Putin, Xi ,Elon , and on and on
True!!!
Amém.
Thank God you guys brought Dr. Sá e Silva and Dr. Nemer... So everyone can at least get a glimpse of the political context involved in this. There’s no censorship in this situation-it's just Elon Musk 'musking it' abroad again.
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
Surprise, surprise! Brazil has a legal system and no one is above the law.
I definitely agree with the Brazilian Judge and the Brazilian President! Laurie. NZ. 😊
You do know Brazil has aligned itself with the Russians and the Chinese since Lula took over. He’s not a liberal, he’s aligning Brazil with authoritarian regimes against Brazil’s traditional allies like America which is why they are targeting X. the opposition has used it to organise.
😉Thanks
🇧🇷👨🏻🫱🏼🫲🏻👴🏻(🌎?)
I'm Brazilian and we are known internationally as The Southern Giant! Respect us! This is Brazil! 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
X is toxic!!!! Congratulations, Brazil!!
Great decision! Thank you very much, Brazilian Supreme Court!
X missed a deadline imposed by Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes to name a legal representative in Brazil, triggering the suspension. [Time]
There many controversies regarding the legality of Justice Moraes orders. First of all many of the inquiries that motivate the X suspension were started with out any provocation from the Prosecutor Office, which is excepcional and only allowed in a specific situation where the Supreme Court itself is in danger. Some inquiries are lasting years (one of those was iniciated on 2019), which is forbidden by Brazilian law (an inquiry must last 180 days, being allowed extensions, but not infinite). Brazilian constitution forbids censorship, the "Marco Civil da Internet" (Internet regulation law) allows the removal of content but it must be preciselly identified (there must be a link in the judicial order), but Justice Moraes is asking for the suspension of profiles (which is preemptive censorship), even worse, all orders are under judicial secrecy, so the owner of such suspended profile receives no notification and is not informed of the judicial order (the orders that X received forbids the platform to inform the owner of the suspended account of the order of suspension itself). This goes on and on ...
Why is this even an issue?!.. he either complies with the laws of the country or he gets out.
Brazil is correct! No more lies!
LIES KILL!
Make Journalism Great Again
I'm not Brazilian, but I'm happy that Brazil had the stones to do this and put Elon Musk in his place. Way to go Brazil. If any company wants to operate in a country, they HAVE to comply with the law of that country, Elon is used to have a Yes, or to bend things to get the Yes. He has to learn that he ain't above the law.
Parabéns ao juiz Alexandre de Moraes pela decisão, X não faz falta nenhuma
Brazil mental health increased by this day
Good. Companies need to follow the law of the country they do business in. Just like foreign country companies need to follow our laws. This is not rocket science folks.
Very well explained by Fabio and David!
Basically, you can agree or disagree with justice, but you must follow the country laws if you want to make business on it, no matter how much money you have.
Musk is not above the law, total support to the justice Alexandre de Moraes...
Respect to the judge who did not bow to financial power and influence.
I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
You couldn't be more wrong. He was the organized crime lawyer all his life
My brother if you don't know what you're talking about. Just don't.
@@rererep1109 I've spent quite some time on this to know what I'm talking about.
-Brasil law requires you to have a representative in the country to do business there.
-X does not, and officially said they would not follow that law.
-Then they did not show up at the trial.
Can you name a country or judge, where they would have been found innocent ?
@@dimiranda What is your source for this statement ?
good for Brazil! wish other countries were this consequent 👍🏻👍🏻 Musk is completely bonkers.
💔So you would like to move toward a world where a politician can shoot someone or do any other heinous crime and then the common people can be legally jailed for talking about it? 😳
This Brazilluan Judge 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤ has banned Elon Musk's X.
Well, we have laws up in here. If you do not obey our laws, you can sell your X elsewhere, cause we are not interested. BraSil supports our minister.
Let the world follow suit!!!
BECAUSE BRAZIL HAS BALLS !
Good decision Brazil, Thank you BRAZIL 🇧🇷
Brazil will be saner for it.
Yes please 😂
No one will miss Twitter/X 🤷🏻♀️
Especially not the drama
@@thepax2621 you don't deserve free speech or any of the rights given to you. You advocate for censorship and silencing of people. They will come for you one day if you do not fight for others.
Its rather a shame that Elon cant be an adult.
Damaged people are incapable of maturity
Guys, I am Brazilian and you shouldnt be hating on Elon Musk, he is just defending the right of the people to give their opinions online. Alexandre de Moraes is arresting people, censoring people for no reason, anyone who says something against the government is pursued. Alexandre de Moraes is the one going against the laws, he is going against Brazil's Constitution. Elon Musk did not follow the orders because they are against the Brazilian constitution which says that everyone has the right to have their freedom of expression. Federal Constitution of 1988, article 5, paragraph IV: “The expression of thought is free, anonymity being prohibited”. Alexandre de Moraes is controlling Brazil fully, he is authoritary, many things he is doing are against the law, so no, Elon Musk is not trying to be superior than the law, he is following the law. Its literally censoring 22 million users in Brazil. Alexandre blocked the accounts of Starlink in Brazil, to pay the punishment imposed on Twitter, as if both companies belonged to the same group, they have other partners, different partners. Another decision by the minister, which makes Brazil a bad place for foreign investors. The majority of profiles on Twitter are not toxic at all, unless what is discordant from your opinion is considered toxic. Freedom of expression: for disagreement to have space, no one is forced to be on Twitter literally. Alexandre de Moraes threatened to arrest the last representative in Brazil and froze his bank accounts, in addition to ignoring all the company's arguments presented to him.
don't express opnion on matters you are ignorant about
@@askeladd60 what about free speech? 😂😂
Left in Brazil is china like
Is that a compliment?
There is an aspect that analyst Fabio da Silva overlooked: Brazilian law, specifically the so-called "Marco Civil da Internet" (Law 12.965 of 2014), requires internet providers to have a representative on Brazilian soil in order to operate. By closing his office in Brazil, Elon Musk voluntarily puts himself in a position of being unable to operate, while also attempting to avoid paying debts to the Brazilian government. In fact, this last point was what enabled the enforcement of legislation affecting Starlink. In Brazil, companies in the same "de facto economic group," meaning with the same controlling entity, are jointly liable for debts owed to the state and other creditors. It is worth noting that Brazilian employees laid off by X complained that not all severance payments required by Brazilian law were fully paid, at least initially.
The democratic Brazilian government has effective means to handle claims and disagreements, which do not involve disobedience to laws or judicial decisions.
X was not banned from Brazil, but suspended. It will resume operations when it complies with Brazilian laws. In Brazil, freedom of expression does not mean freedom to be complicit or commit crimes.
why aint they shut it down everywhere?
Because Many people even though that They Hate twitter There are Also Many people around the world who love it
Because it's resisting government censorship. And people usually don't like to be censored
@@joan38
There is no censorship, there is a law in Brazil that does not allow foreign companies to operate without a legal representative.
@@caraqualquer9907 now they don't have any representative but the root cause is censorship. Don't try to derail the real topic.
It's like if you crash your car into me, I sue you but you don't appoint a lawyer to represent you. Ok but what about the crash in the first place?
Well done Brazil
Looks like those accounts got banned after all Musk... right along with all the others. That was bigly smart..
The erosion of human rights is taken away like a chess game, not allowing people to criticize their governments is the first move, then after that politicians can do whatever they want. People who are against reasonable protections for free speech in public are sheep that willingly place a slave collar around their necks for future abuse.
The issue was not those accounts but those of political rivals of the current government by a judge and x was requested to do it without telling the people publicly. Why would people want this fly by night judge and silencing of political opposition.
@@josephnolan8217 You have no more information then I do, that's your opinion. Elon is a right-wing racists who loves bad actors so the last people I would take advice from is him or you. Elon has destroyed Twitter buy making it a platform for extremest losers who can't handle people they can't compete with unless they are subjugated. This is an example of a country letting him know who is boss and it's not Elon.
@@josephnolan8217 Does the opposition only speak for "X"?
@@ChaosTheAngels not sure what you mean. Many people do not like the suppression of speech. The left has been very much in favor of canceling people, censoring people, and enacting very draconian laws on speech.
Lets see were Brazils democracy is in 20 years...
The guy just forgot to mention that the judge has not been respecting the legal process in Brazil, not mentioning that he issued an order "via X" which is the most bizarre thing ever. A judge must be Immune to the stupidity of a spoiled billionaire and immune to a personal vendetta, and this is not happening.
"he issued an order "via X"" . That's because X no longer has a legal representation in Brazil, wich according to the law (Marco Civil da Internet), it's ilegal. A foreign company cannot operate in Brazil without having a legal representention here to hold accountability for its actions.
The man-child Musk is not above the laws of Brazil.
Don’t be confused. The Law is one thing, the judges order is another (and it’s illegal). This “Brazilian specialist” is wrong because the law and Constitution is one thing. What this judge is doing is another… what he did hasn’t any legal provision in Brasil and is clearly politically biased as even the mainstream media already acknowledged. X indicated that it was willing to comply with the law, what X refused to was complying with this judge’s unlawful orders (censorship and prosecution of people without any criminal proof). That is it.
@@MiniLumpa quanta besteira
@@gnhonhoRealmente, o vídeo todo é um lixo e os comentários são de gente ainda mais lixo.
This judge (Moraes) is the one not following the law and the constitution. Musk refused to comply because Moraes' requests were unconstitutional. It's as simple as that. Check out Glen Grenwald's work to understand what's going on in Brazil. Greenwald is a left-leaning journalist, by the way, in case that matters to you.
thank you!
Stop saying bullSh$t
Stop sucking up to a Billionaire trying to meddle with a country's politics and economics to his own benefit. By what i see, this decision was very much within the law and not above it as you imply here.
it's funny how people that are not judges, judging the decision of a judge based on their beliefs of what is correct or not, and nothing will happen because they aren't judges themselves.
So they froze Starlink accounts as well ? How is that legal in Brazil ?
Because they're from the same company group. X denied to follow the decisions of Brazil's Supreme Court, its not paying fines for non-compliance with court decisions and not appointing a legal representative in Brazil.
@@joaovictorfernandesnogueir6068 They have X in the name so they are the same company group ? Or how are those "company groups" defined ?
A liberdade dos brasileiros minguando
I’m Brazilian and unfortunately I'm feeling in a dictator country where we don’t have freedom of speech. we need more guys like Musk
Tell about india or china. He agree to censor. Brazilian are newbie 😂😂😂
Legal, mas quero saber o porquê está falando em uma rede social, se tem tanta censura assim, e vejo que não é tão bem do governo o do seu país. 😢
Acho bem engraçado a Direita do Brasil se fazer de vítima e tomar a postura do menino mimado Moska, que para lembrar a maioria esmagadora nem sequer tinha ou sabia o que era X no Brasil rsrs, mas essa briga não é sobre Moska para estrema direita no Brasil e sim, sobre o Alexandre de Morais, que não se alinha aos seus interesses de ditadura e de destruir o Brasil, esse é realmente o Brasil que vivemos, onde todas as decisões são criticadas para e existe a perseguição desses povos extremistas da direita, para criticar qualquer coisa que o Alexandre de Morais, Lula ou o PT façam e validar o seu delírio coletivo que estavam certo e deveriam ter destruído os três poderes, mas mesmo e transformado o país em uma ditadura com os militares super corruptos e as milícias no Brasil.